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From YouTube: 4/8/2022 - Joint Interim Standing Committee on Judiciary
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A
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
of
the
senate
judiciary
to
order.
Thank
you
everybody
for
being
here.
Let's
start
with
a
roll
call,
please.
A
I
believe
senator
picker
can't
join
us
today,
so
go
ahead
and
mark
him
excused
assemblywoman.
A
I
think
she's
going
to
be
joining
us,
so
if
you'll
just
mark
her
present
when
she
arrives,
that
would
be
great.
Okay,.
E
C
F
A
Eyeball
present
and
I
was
mistaken
about
assemblywoman
marzola.
She
can't
make
it
either.
So
please
mark
her
excused
all
right,
as
you
might
have
noticed,
I'm
here
in
carson
city,
because
I
missed
being
in
carson
city
and
it's
nice
to
see
everybody.
We
have
people
joining
us
from
afar
on
zoom
or
whatever
this
platform
is.
We
have
someone
with
summers,
armstrong
and
assemblywoman
krasner
via
their
computers,
and
then
we
have
a
assembly,
woman,
win
and
senator
harris
down
south
in
the
grand
sawyer
building.
So
through
the
modern
marvels
of
technology.
A
We
are
all
here
and
we
have
a
quorum.
I
wanted
just
to
cover
a
few
housekeeping
matters
before
we
get
started
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
a
very
busy
committee-
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
commitment
to
being
here
and
to
testifying
before
us
and
to
providing
their
public
comment
so
for
today's
meeting.
We
do
have
to
be
out
of
this
room
by
3
p.m,
because
the
legislative
commission
is
meeting
here
and
actually
I
know
some
of
our
members
also
serve
in
the
legislative
commission,
so
they
have
busy
days.
A
I
am
going
to
take
a
break
towards
the
middle
around
noon.
For
about
30
minutes,
so
people
can,
you
know,
get
some
lunch,
we'll
kind
of
time
that
around
the
presentations
and
I'll
try
to
give
you
a
better
heads
up
when
we
get
closer
to
that
break.
But
in
the
meantime
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
our
members
know
that
their
these
meetings
are
long.
A
I
understand
that
and
you're
absolutely
welcome
to
stand
up
use
the
restroom
grab
a
snack
turn
off
your
camera
if
you're,
remote
and
and
you
need
to
do
any
of
those
things.
It's
not
a
problem.
I'd
also
ask
that
our
presenters
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
I
just
told
the
members
that
and
please
don't
take
any
offense
or
a
sign
of
disrespect
if
someone's
camera's
off
or
if
someone
steps
away.
But
we
are
human
beings
and
eventually
we
do
have
to
refill
our
water
bottles
and
go
to
the
restroom.
A
That
being
said,
if
you
do
step
out
for
a
minute
and
you
come
back
and
you
miss
something-
absolutely
fine
to
ask
a
question-
get
back
up
to
speed
if
you're
out
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
miss
a
whole
presentation,
then
I
would
ask
that
you,
you
know,
watch
that
presentation
later
follow
up
with
the
presenters
offline
or
you
know,
send
me
an
email
we
can
chat
but
not
to
have
them
rehash
the
whole
presentation
when
you
get
back
with
that
being
said,
I
also
want
to
apologize
to
everybody
for
canceling
our
meeting
in
march.
A
It
was
you
know,
not
my
preference,
but
I
think
that
it's
very
important
that
for
all
of
you,
we're
here
to
hear
your
not
just
your
presentations
but
your
thoughts,
your
opinions,
what
you're
working
on
and
in
march,
we
simply
had
too
many
people
who
were
at
the
last
minute
unable
to
be
here.
So
we
have
rescheduled
there.
It's
we're
going
to
have
back-to-back
meetings
in
may
we're
going
to
have
a
meeting
on
may
6th
and
then
wait
did
I
say
that
right
may
6th
and
then
may
13th.
Thank
you.
A
So
we'll
have
back-to-back
meetings
in
may
and
again
they're
all
going
to
be
long
meetings.
I
was
just
talking
to
some
colleagues
last
night
and
we
went
through
some
of
the
things
that
the
interim
judiciary
committee
has
picked
up.
You
know
we
are
now
the
what
used
to
be
the
ach,
as
well
as
the
juvenile
justice
commission,
as
well
as
the
sentencing
recommendation
commission,
as
well
as
the
prison
industries,
commission
or
committees.
A
So
we've
picked
up
a
lot
of
work
and
that's
why
these
meetings
are
so
long,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
hear
from
everybody
and
we
get
your
input
and
we
start
these
conversations
now.
So
when
we
get
to
session
we're
not
starting
from
zero-
and
I
think
those
are
all
of
the
announcements
that
I
have
for
today
with
that
we
will
go
to
our
first.
Oh,
our
first
agenda
item
is
public
comment.
Public
comment
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
per
person.
A
I
will
cut
you
off
if
you
exceed
those
three
minutes
and
with
that
we
will
open
it
up
for
our
first
public
comment.
G
I
I
We
are
here
today
mostly
to
monitor
the
presentation
on
one's
ab-116
traffic
decrim.
We
just
wanted
to
let
everyone
in
the
legislature
know
and
in
the
courts
know
that
you
have
that
they
have
the
full
support
and
resources
of
the
fines
and
fees
justice
center,
both
our
local
teams
and
our
national
teams
to
help
with
any
kinks
any
implementation.
I
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anybody
else
in
person
up
north
to
give
public
all
right
come
on
down
and
if
anybody's
new
to
the
public
comment
process,
there
is
a
mic
button
on
the
table.
You
have
to
press
that
button
when
it's
lit
up
the
mic
is
on
and
we'll
be
capturing
what
you're
saying
and
then
you
just
press
it
to
turn
it
back
off.
K
K
I'm
not
aware
that
any
public
officials
in
nevada
sought
to
help
mr
lara
recover
his
life
savings
until
the
washington
bro
post
broke
the
story
nationally
in
september,
upon
which
mr
lara's
money
was
returned.
K
K
A
Thank
you
so
much
anybody
else
in
person
in
the
north,
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
coming
to
the
podium
we'll
go
to
in
person
in
the
south,
and
maybe
my
colleagues
down
there
could.
Oh,
it
looks
like
there's
somebody
at
the
table.
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
turn
the
gavel
over
to
vice
chairwin,
since
she
can
see
down
there
a
little
bit
better.
A
J
L
M
M
Yes,
we
can,
you
may
begin
yes,
my
name
is
yin
ying
chen,
I'm
originally
from
hong
kong,
but
have
been
living
as
a
proud
american
citizen
of
within
the
state
of
nevada.
For
the
last
24
years.
During
the
past
10
years
I
have
been
experiencing
life-threatening
trauma
that
has
greatly
hindered
me
from
enjoying
american
life
and
dream
crime
switch
include
havana
syndrome,
blackmail,
conspiracy
to
murder,
breaking
and
entering
cyber
hacking
noise
campaign
stalking.
M
And
for
the
brevity
of
this
presentation,
the
list
goes
on:
amy
holland,
a
professional
forensic
analyst,
performed
an
extensive
forensic
report,
exposing
at
least
five
different
forms
of
military-grade
weapon
systems.
This
include
directive,
energy,
weapons,
microwave
stainers,
missile
launchers
and
electromagnetic
weapon
systems
that
have
all
been
attacking
me
within
my
home,
24
7..
M
I
have
experienced
head
burning
from
the
beams
and
signals
resulting
in
excess
stress
strain
on
my
jaw
to
the
point
where
I
cannot
eat
irritable
bowel
syndrome.
I
have
experienced
my
nervous
system
controlled
by
direct
energy
weapon
which
caused
vibration
of
the
clinton
vaginal
area,
uterus
growing
in
stomach
symptoms
of
magellan
disease
and
insect
type
creatures
crawling
underneath
my
skin,
including
perfect
areas
unexplained
pressure
in
heaviness
in
my
special
organ.
M
Other
attacks
that
have
been
experienced
include
video,
rareism,
rape,
sex
trafficking,
discrimination,
cyber
bullying,
cyber
stalking,
as
well
as
attacking
my
dog,
experienced
this
trauma
throughout
the
last
10
years,
has
not
only
added
destruction
to
my
life,
but
also
has
allowed
me
to
lose
my
employment
and
homeless
as
well.
I
have
reported
all
these
crimes
to
the
local
police
and
las
vegas
fbi.
Unfortunately,
they
did
not
offer
any
help,
I'm
not
the
only
one.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
legislators
and
judiciary
committee
members
for
inviting
me
here
to
speak
to
you
about
essential
future
legislation.
Anyone
can
be
targeted.
It
is
time
to
update
and
implement
new
laws
on
technology
laws
that
reflect
the
current
trends
in
the
criminals
that
exploit
them,
while
flying
under
the
radar
confirmed.
Reports
of
havana
syndrome
are
on
american
soil
by
white
house
and
federal
employees.
In
a
recent
report
of
an
active
duty
service
member
now
these
weapons
systems
are
in
the
hands
of
criminals.
C
Antipa
members,
domestic
terrorist
groups
like
redfield
targeting
at
least
32
victims
within
the
state
of
nevada
and
continuing
in
growth.
These
military-grade
weapons
are
being
used
to
torture.
These
men,
women
and
children
have
burns
and
blisters
attacks
on
their
central
nervous
system
being
sexually
assaulted
and
raped
on
their
private
parts
and
organs.
C
Victims
who
are
being
hijacked
into
child
human
sex
trafficking
rings,
subjected
to
video
voyeurism
being
live
streamed
of
their
suffering
on
the
dark
web
and
red
rooms.
I
have
counted
over
72,
federal
and
108
state
crimes
that
have
been
violated
by
these
weapon
systems
and
have
over
10
000
audios
verifying
these
attacks
and
criminal
communications.
C
Your
nevada
constituents
are
impacted
by
these
weapons
systems
with
job
and
reputation,
loss,
production,
decrease
homelessness
and
family
destruction.
Military-Grade
weapon
systems
should
only
be
in
the
hands
of
u.s
military
and
not
even
made
available
for
trade
or
market.
Anything
that
creates
a
wave
beam
signal
pulse
is
causing
invasion
and
privacy.
C
C
Now
it
is
time
to
consider
all
citizens
who
are
crying
for
help
from
law
enforcement,
medical
staff
and
federal
agencies
with
the
use
of
the
baker
act,
laws
forces
the
ordinary
citizens
into
mental
institution
without
cause,
so
they
can
be
dismissed
and
false
information
added
when
other
officers
run
their
names,
which
law
enforcement
uses
for
failure
to
investigate
doctors
used
to
administer
unnecessary
medication
and
falsify
reports
on
fake
diagnosis
undermines
the
victim's
efforts
to
prove
their
case.
Anyone
can
be
targeted.
C
I
have
assisted
these
victims
to
resolve
their
situations
through
forensic
evidence,
collection
and
legal
processes
to
address
these
criminal
networks
that
use
the
dark
web
and
their
red
room
activities.
I
am
submitting
my
bill
proposal
on
the
electronic
torture
act
to
you,
the
legislatures
and
judiciary
committee
members.
It
is.
C
M
Good
morning,
chairman
scheible
and
members
of
the
joint
interim
standing
committee
on
judiciary,
this
is
tonya
brown
advocates
for
the
inmates
in
the
innocent.
In
2011,
the
nevada
supreme
court
denied
a
petition
for
exoneration
posthumously,
because
the
court
lacked
jurisdiction
and
it
was
suggested
the
legislature
created
avenue
for
petition
for
exoneration
posthumously.
M
This
has
yet
not
been
done.
Over
the
years,
studies
have
been
conducted
on
wrongful
convictions
and
have
been
brought
to
the
attention
of
our
legislators
in
2009
assembly,
bail,
356,
the
factual
innocence
bill
was
passed,
however,
those
who
have
maintained
their
innocence
and
have
passed
away
the
families
still
continue
to
seek
justice
for
the
deceased
loved
one.
M
I
ask
this
committee
for
consideration
to
create
legislation
in
the
2023
legislation
that
is
coming
up
and
also
excuse
me.
We
would
also
like
to
have
this
legislation
be
created
and
a
criteria
set
for
those
who
have
lost
their
loved
ones,
and
I
have
set
a
criteria.
M
A
factual
innocence
posthumously
case
also
on
he,
the
decedent's
administrator
executor
and
his
steven's
relatives
becomes
aware
of
newly
discovered
evidence
after
the
decedent's
death
and
is
in
possession
of
that
evidence.
Where
or
knows
where
the
evidence
can
be
found
may
be
applied
to
the
pardon
sport
or
c.
M
So
we
ask
that
you
consider
this
topic
of
factual
innocence,
posthumously
for
future
legislation.
Also,
last
and
I'm
sorry
in
march,
on
your
agenda
items
four
and
five
dealing
with
domestic
violence.
M
I
think
that
might
be
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
into,
because
there
are
women
victims.
There
are
pressure
put
on
by
other
officers
on
with
not
wanting
to
file
the
complaint,
not
moving
forward,
and
I
think,
if
you're
going
to
do
a
complete
data
study
on
anything.
I
think
that
should
include
that
as
well.
All
right.
A
All
right,
thank
you
that
leads
us
into
our
first
well,
I
guess
our
third
agenda
item
of
the
day
we
are
going
to
hear
from
the
judiciary
and
we'll
invite
mr
mccormick
up,
and
I
think
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
other
presenters
with
you
now
or
at
some
point
during
the
presentation,
but
you
are
all
welcome.
D
A
Oh
fantastic,
and
so
we
have
judge
zimmerman
in
grant
sawyer.
We
have
mr
mccormick
up
here.
J
Thank
you,
chair
again
for
the
record
john
mccormick
assistant
court
administrator
at
the
supreme
court
aoc,
and
I
believe
we
also
have
some
judges
on
the
zoom
call
with
us
for
some
later
agenda
items.
So
in
lieu
of
doing
a
powerpoint.
I
thought
I
would
just
go
over
a
few
brief
points
here
with
you
and
field
any
questions
you
have,
and
this
is
more
from
an
aoc
supreme
court
perspective.
J
As
far
as
updates
from
us,
currently
we're
working
on
implementing
a
new
statewide
case
management
system
that
will
be
available
to
all
the
trial
courts
in
the
state,
we're
currently
in
the
negotiation
process,
with
potentially
two
vendors
that
we
would
sponsor
to
implement
that
across
the
state
and
also
developing
a
list
of
approved
systems.
J
So
the
idea
here
is
to
improve,
obviously
the
the
case
management
technology
across
the
state,
and
we
did
receive
an
appropriation
for
this,
and
we've
also
asked
for
american
relief
plan
act
or
whatever
we're
calling
it
now
federal
relief
funds
dollars.
J
In
order
to
continue
that
implementation-
and
we
did
talk
to
you
during
the
past
session
regarding
the
project
we
had
been
working
on-
and
we
are
currently
in
arbitration
with
that
vendor-
that
was
not
able
to
deliver
that
project-
we're
also
working
on
a
statewide
e-file
system
so
to
enable
electronic
filing
throughout
the
state
and
every
court.
We
currently
have
a
request
proposal
out
and
we're
looking
to
select
one
system
to
be
used
statewide
and
integrate
with
both
the
aoc
cms.
I
just
spoke
about,
as
well
as
the
other
approved
cmss.
J
The
idea
with
this
is
to
require
e-filing
for
all
licensed
nevada
attorneys
and
make
it
available
to
everyone
else,
including
proper
litigants,
obviously-
and
we
are
currently
in
this
process
looking
at
a
way
to
minimize
user
fees
for
that
e-filing
project,
we
would
prefer
not
to
have
to
have
users
pay
an
additional
fee
to
make
that
filing.
So
we're
exploring
that
again,
we
did
receive
some
appropriation
last
session
for
this,
and
we
are
asking
for
additional
federal
relief
dollars
to
do
that.
J
Another
technology
project
we're
currently
looking
at
is
creating
what
we're
going
to
call
a
data
warehouse.
So
a
basically
a
database
where
we
can
put
all
the
court
data
have
an
ax,
a
dashboard
to
allow
significantly
better
analytics
and
now
and
sort
of
deep
dives
into
the
data.
Hopefully
this
will
let
courts
improve
processes,
bring
us
sort
of
up
to
date
and
improve
our
our
data
collection
for
our
annual
report
and
other
purposes.
J
And
finally,
we
are
also,
along
with
these
projects,
in
our
request
for
federal
funds,
exploring
a
statewide
protection
order
portal,
so
that
would
hopefully
allow
us
to
create
a
guided
interview
process
to
allow
individuals
to
apply
for
a
protection
order
online
from
anywhere
in
the
state,
and
so
that
would
obviously
include
domestic
violence,
stalking
harassment,
harassment
in
the
workplace,
sexual
assault,
protection
of
minors
and
high
risk
protection
orders.
J
So
that
also
is
being
explored
and
we're
currently
also
looking
at
coming
up
with
a
civil
traffic
resolution
platform
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
That
would
be
a
standalone
system
that
any
court
in
the
state
could
access
and
that's
to
facilitate
the
transition
to
the
new
civil
traffic
violation
paradigm.
On
january
1
of
2023
excuse
me
per
ab-116
budgetarily.
J
I
know
everyone.
This
is
not
a
money
committee,
but
just
a
a
quick
note
that
we're
currently
finding
that
administrative
assessment
revenue
that
revenue
which
funds
part
of
the
supreme
court
as
well.
Some
executive
branch
functions,
is
down
about
29
and
a
half
percent
under
legislative
authorization
from
last
year's
budget
approval
and
we're
anticipating.
It's
probably
going
to
end
the
year
24
to
26
percent
down.
J
J
So
I
just
mentioned
that
again-
and
I
don't
know
what
I
was
originally
actually
gonna-
do
a
deep
dive
into
the
history
of
administrative
assessments
in
nevada
as
a
funding
mechanism
since
1983,
but
your
staff
dissuaded
me
from
making
that
presentation
anyway,
so
anecdotally,
also
in
terms
of
that
administrative
assessment,
wise
we're
hearing
that
a
lot
of
law
enforcement
agencies
are
writing
fewer
traffic
tickets.
J
I
don't
think
that's
a
surprise
to
anyone
and
I
don't
know
what,
beyond
just
anecdotal,
what
the
connection
with
with
going
to
civil
traffic
is
on
that
and
obviously
we
don't
know
the
impact
of
ab116
on
those
collections.
I
believe,
judge
higgins
and
judge
zimmerman
will
speak
on
ab-116
and
its
implementation
a
little
bit
more
as
a
judicial
branch.
J
J
We
had
a
meeting
with
a
number
of
stakeholders
and
are
currently
working
on
a
draft
of
that
plan
to
begin
to
sort
of
unveil
the
report
at
our
judicial
leadership
summit,
which
is
our
big
all-judge
conference,
which
is
coming
up
at
the
beginning
of
may
and
and
from
that
plan,
we'll
be
making
probably
some
asks
for
legislation,
accession
as
well
as
potential
budgetary
type
asks,
but
obviously
that
all
will
play
out
during
the
next
session.
J
One
thing
that
has
become
clear
in
that
strategic
planning
process
is:
there's
a
desire
on
the
part
of
the
trial
courts
to
receive
an
enhanced
level
and
more
intensive
support
from
the
administrative
office
of
the
courts.
So
maybe
we're
doing
something
right
and
they
want
more
of
it
or
that
remains
to
be
seen.
J
Another
issue
that
obviously
has
been
of
some
import
and
focus
recently
is
guardianships
and
we
again
applied
for
a
federal
grant
to
work
on
improving
guardianship
processing
in
the
state
we've
conducted
with
the
help
of
the
national
center
for
state
courts.
A
number
of
site
visits
across
district
courts
in
the
state
reviewing
guardianship
processes,
we're
working
on
some
specific
training
for
not
only
judges
but
potential
guardians
and
family
members.
That
would
be
made
available
online.
We're
partnering
with
the
national
council
of
juvenile
and
family
court.
J
Judges
on
that
and
that's
all
funded
here
so
again
we'll
be
reporting
out
what
we
find
there
and
making
suggestions
for
improvement
and,
finally,
ab43
from
this
past
session,
encouraged
the
supreme
court
to
create
a
committee
to
study
judicial
discipline
and
we've
done
that
under
administrative
docket
number
582,
and
that
will
study
both
the
discipline
process
and
the
judicial
code
of
conduct.
Overall,
I
think
the
last
time
the
code
was
updated
was
2007
or
8..
J
If
I
recall
correctly
so
it's
time
to
re-evaluate
that
chief
justice,
paraguay
will
be
the
chair
of
that
committee.
We
have
a
number
of
committees
going
so
that
one's
a
little
slower
to
get
started,
but
but
it's
on
our
agenda,
we
also
are
looking
at
adr
and
short
trial
rules,
improving
the
rules
for
remote
appearances
and
video
appearances
across
the
state.
I
think
that's
maybe
the
extent
of
the
the
committees
and
commissions
we
have
going
right
now,
but
those
are
just
the
brief
updates.
A
J
Thank
you,
john
mccormick,
for
the
record.
The
intent
with
the
e-file
system
is
that
every
court
in
the
state
would
receive
e-files,
so
justice,
muni
and
district.
A
J
J
We
could
continue
to
file
those
traffic
tickets
and
then,
as
I
indicated,
we're
trying
to
work
on
a
standalone
portal
for
traffic
resolution
that
that
would
allow
direct
filing
there.
The
e-filing
primarily
is
looking
you
know
at
case.
Initiations
wouldn't
necessarily
be
trafficked.
If
that
makes
sense,
because.
A
J
Right,
john
mccormack,
for
the
record,
the
idea
with
the
standalone
traffic
portal
is
because
we
are
having
the
sea
change
and
moving
to
civil
traffic
is
creating
an
online
tool.
Some
other
states
that
have
moved
to
that
civil
traffic,
like
arizona,
has
a
platform
we're
looking
at
it's
not
necessarily
a
model.
J
If
they,
you
know,
do
a
code
violations
that
are
civil,
it
would
still
be
in
that
process
or
you
know
it's
if
it's
a
civil
citation,
so
it
kind
of
kind
of
depends.
This
is
really
focused
on
all
those
changes
to
484
a
through
e
and
then
490
and
everything
else.
A
Okay-
and
this
might
be
premature,
but
would
it
be
possible
if
a
municipality
or
a
jurisdiction
wanted
their?
You
know
code
violations
to
be
included
in
the
traffic
system?
Would
that
be
possible.
J
John
mccormick
for
the
record,
I
I'm
not
gonna
promise
that,
but
I
think
what
we're
looking
at
is
sort
of
a
phased
implementation
in
terms
of
getting
a
traffic
solution
started
some
pilot
courts
and
then,
if
it
turns
out
to
be
successful,
then
theoretically,
we
could
build
on
that
and
add
additional
functionality,
but
sort
of,
in
speaking
with
limited
jurisdiction,
courts
and
and
judge
zimmerman's.
The
president
of
that
association
just
conducted
a
survey
approximately
83
of
the
courts
that
responded
wanted
that
standalone
traffic
solution.
J
So
we
think
that's
a
really
good
place
to
start,
because
a
lot
of
these
technology
projects
are
are
pushing
us
a
lot
farther
than
we've
we've
kind
of
been
before
and
specifically
with
the
cms
requiring
courts
to
use
either
our
sponsored
or
an
approved
cms
rather
than
sort
of
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
J
What's
been
the
free
for
all,
with
a
number
of
cmss
all
over
the
state
so
and
then,
as
far
as
e-files,
sorry
to
piggyback
on
that
with
the
cms
it
local
courts
will
be
allowed
to
have
their
own
e-file
solution.
As
long
as
it
works
with
our
the
e-file
solution
that
we
roll
out
statewide.
A
Okay,
that
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
think
that
moving
to
a
separate
online
traffic
citation
system
is
very
smart
and
I'm
excited
to
to
see
that
built
up.
Do
we
have
any
questions
from
our
friends
on
zoom?
A
If
you,
if
either
one
of
you
have
questions,
just
your
mic
can
go
ahead.
A
Seeing
as
they're
not
doing
that,
I
think
oh
sorry
go
ahead.
Assemblymember
summers,
armstrong!
Sorry,.
C
I
I
was
hoping
I
know
that
you
didn't
want
to
do
a
a
powerpoint,
but
would
you
mind
sending
just
an
overview
of
some
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned
here,
because
your
list
was
very
long,
and
I
am
also
curious
as
to
cost
for
some
of
the
software
suggestions
that
are
are
being
put
forward.
You
know
and
timeline
because
I
think
that
that's
important
for
us
to
know
as
well.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
assemblywoman.
I
would
be
happy
to
do
that
as
far
again.
Sorry,
john
mccormick
for
the
record
and
as
far
as
costs,
we
did
submit
a
total
request
to
fund
all
this
through
those
federal
leaf
dollars
to
the
gfo
this
week.
That
comes
in
at
about
30.8
million
dollars
to
accomplish
all
this.
So
it's
a
it's
a
substantial
request.
C
I
have
one
more
question,
I'm
so
sorry,
assemblywoman
chandra
summers,
armstrong!
You
mentioned
that
you
are
expecting
that
the
overall
funding
for
the
courts
will
be
down
about
26
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Do
you
all
have
the
idea
of
how
you
want
to
fill
the
gap?
If
we're
going
to
simple
misdemeanors?
C
J
Thank
you
assemblywoman
again
for
the
record
john
mccormick
when
I
mentioned
that
we're
looking
about
24
to
26
by
the
end
of
the
year.
That's
on
the
administrative
assessment
funding
side,
yeah
so
anyways
that
that's
on
the
administrative
assessments
funding
side.
So
that's
the
funding
that
comes
from
nrs
176.059.
J
So
again
as
we're
developing
our
budget
plan,
we're
exploring
a
lot
of
those
options
and
I
think
we'll
be
having
that
discussion.
As
far
as
dealing
with
with
those
sort
of
I
think,
revenue
issues
that
have
become
endemic
to
to
the
system
during
the
upcoming
session.
I
don't
think
the
discussions
sort
of
at
the
the
court
are
far
enough
along
where
I
can
say.
Definitely
what
we'll
be
talking
about.
But
we
are
cognizant
and
are
looking
forward
to
collaborating
with
the
legislature
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
solution
on
that.
A
D
Thank
you
chair
you,
it
talked
about,
so
this
is
essentially
an
integrated
system
that
all
of
the
courts
across
the
state
would
have
access
to.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
mccormick.
J
J
The
idea
is
to
replace
the
system
for
those
courts
and
then
make
the
these
options
available
to
all
the
courts
in
the
state,
combined
with
the
fact
that
they
have
to
be
on
an
approved
system,
the
e-file
system
we
intend
to
have
everybody
use
and
then
the
civil
traffic
portal
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
The
idea
would
that
would
again
be
sort
of
an
opt-in
and
just
from
that
survey
that
we
conducted
in
conjunction
with
the
limited
jurisdiction,
judges,
association
and
we're
looking
about
83.
Think
that's
a
good
idea.
J
So
the
idea
is
to
make
these
systems
available.
Statewide,
obviously
there'll
be
a
roll
out
of
implementation.
You
know
with
going
with
the
courts
that
we
currently
support
on
our
case
management.
First
for
the
cms
making
e-file
available
to
everybody
at
once,
and
then
working
on
that
civil
traffic
portal.
D
J
Talk
about
that
one,
okay,
the
idea
is
that
they,
as
long
as
it's
on
the
aoc
sort
of
approved
list
of
case
management
systems,
meaning
those
case
management
systems-
can
meet
our
minimum
accounting
and
statistical
reporting
standards.
They
could
use
their
own.
It
will
necessary
if
they
choose
to
use
their
own.
They
will
necessarily
have
to
build
their
own
interface
to
the
mandatory
e-file
system
and
and
hopefully,
economies
of
scale,
and
we
can
leverage
to
to
get
more
folks
on
board
with
maybe
the
state-sponsored
system,
but
being
that
we're
non-unified
judiciary.
J
We
can't
necessarily
say
you
shall
I
think
we
can
create
parameters
to
make
sure
that
this
level
of
service
in
the
case
management
is
appropriate.
But
that's
the
idea
as
long
as
it
meets
minimum
standards,
you
can
use
your
own
system,
provided
it
interfaces
appropriately
with
the
other
systems.
D
And
then
you
had
talked
about
trying
to
come
up
with.
You
know,
monitoring
to
make
sure
that
this
is
like.
I
guess,
cost
isn't
cost
prohibitive
for
pro
per
litigants.
Is
there
like?
Are
we
engaging
technology
where
people
don't
have
to
have
like
a
scanner
they
can
use
their
phone
or
their
fillable
forms
for
things
from
everything
from
protection
orders
to,
I
guess,
eviction,
documents
or
any
of
those
kind
of
motions
to
quash
place
on
calendar.
J
Thank
you
again,
john
mccormick
for
the
record
yeah.
It
is
our
intent
to
make
the
the
e-file
system,
which
we'd
be
speaking
about
here
as
user-friendly
as
possible
for
pro
say,
proper
litigants.
We
want
to
look
at
creating
that
sort
of
protection,
order,
guided
portal
interview
and
look
at
some
of
those
options
for
the
e-file
system
and
again
I
think,
that's
something
we
get
a
system
in
place
and
then
begin
building
on
it.
We
have
discussed
with
legal
aid
providers
potential
to
enhance
that
and
obviously
we
wouldn't
require
e-filing
for
pro-perlit
against.
J
They
would
still
have
the
option,
obviously
to
file
in
person,
but
we
want
to
sort
of
reduce
those
barriers.
You
know
without
getting
too
sort
of
high-minded.
You
know
we
want
to
reduce
that
digital
divide,
you
know,
and
how
do
we
do
that?
I
think
those
are
options
we
have
to
look
at.
You
know
if,
if
we
need
scanning,
we
make
public
scanning
available
in
the
courthouse.
J
Can
we
partner
with
with
local
entities
those
kind
of
things,
but
that's
all
sort
of
a
sort
of
part
of
this
project
as
we
go
forward
to
to
enhance
those
that
level
of
service
we're
so
we're
very
cognizant
of
it?
But
again
it's
a
it's
a
slower
roll
out,
because
we
don't
think
we
can
fix
everything
at
once.
D
No,
I
appreciate
that
with
respect
to
the
civil
traffic,
I
appreciate
that
everyone's
working
together
to
kind
of
come
up
with
something
that
makes
sense
across
the
state
and
gives
some
more
predictability
for
the
public
when
they're
dealing
with
their
traffic
civil
citations
coming
up
in
the
new
year.
D
I
guess
my
question
is
you
mentioned
something
about
administrative
assessments
being
down
and
the
decrease
in
traffic
tickets
being
issued.
I
know
when
talking
with
some
of
the
law
enforcement
partners
just
recently
they've
indicated
that
there
hasn't
been
a
downturn,
but
I
know
I've
seen
some
initial
data
that
most
of
those
traffic
tickets
are
being
reduced
by
the
prosecution
and
the
courts.
I
guess
to
illegal
parking
tickets
like
upwards
of
70
to
90
percent
of
them
does
that
reduction
to
a
charge?
J
John
mccormick
with
the
record-
and
I
I
think
so
I
can't
say
100
if
I
recall,
I
think
parking
may
be
exempted
from
administrative
assessments
in
the
statute.
But
don't
quote
me
on
that,
so
it
could
definitely
impact
that
situation.
Judd
zimmerman
might
have
a
little
more
insight
as
far
as
the
practice
in
las
vegas
justice
court,
which
I'm
making
an
assumption,
you're
kind
of
speaking
to.
D
Will
follow
up
with
her
when
she
presents
next?
Thank
you.
Oh
and
one
last
thing
you
had
indicated
about
the
office
of
the
courts
looking
at
reviewing
the
judicial
discipline
process,
and
you
said
that
has
just
kind
of
gotten
started.
Is
that
correct.
J
Thank
you,
john
mccormick
for
the
record
yeah.
We
we
have.
The
supreme
court
issued
an
order
on
the
administrative
dock
to
create
the
committee
and
we're
just
getting
that
started
but
yeah.
Pursuant
to
the
the
ask
in
ab43
from
last
session
we're
trying
to
get
the
ball
rolling
on
that.
J
Yeah,
the
membership,
sorry
john
mccormick
with
the
record
the
membership
for
the
committee
was
provided
in
that
administrative
docket
order.
So
the
committee
exists.
We
just
haven't
had
a
whole
lot
of
meetings
yet.
A
O
O
After
e-filing,
there
has
been
historically
some
lack
of
being
able
to
communicate
the
resolutions
over
to
the
department
of
public
safety
records
section
in
keeping
their
files
straight
too.
Have
we
addressed
that
with
all
that
you're
doing
right
now
to
make
sure
they're
included
on
the
interfacing
on.
J
J
We
currently
have
a
data
broker,
and
this
is
where
I
don't
necessarily
know
what
I'm
talking
about
completely
called
the
multi-county
integrated
justice
information
system
or
something
the
guy
just
is
the
acronym
and
so
to
strengthen
and
expand
that
as
we
also
strengthen
and
expand
the
e-filing
and
cms
offerings
to
to
continue
to
do
that
so
yeah.
J
We
we
routinely
meet
with
the
repository
and
discuss
these
issues
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
as
they
do
their
modernization
project
that
we're
all
keeping
in
mind
the
need
to
interface
and
share
that
data.
A
All
right,
I'm
giving
our
colleagues
on
zoom
and
down
south
just
a
second,
but
it
looks
like
we've
covered
all
the
questions
for
now
and
judy
zimmerman.
Did
you
have
your
own
presentation
today.
F
Good
morning,
I
do
just
very
briefly,
though,
because
john
mccormick
covered
a
lot
of
it.
I
am
judge
zimmerman,
I'm
appearing
as
president
of
the
nevada
judges
of
limited
jurisdiction
to
update
you,
you
all
about
ab116.
I
also
have
with
me
today
judge
kevin,
sparks
and
judge
stephen
bishop,
who
will
be
speaking
about
ab424.
F
The
membership
voted
to
create
the
committee
and
it's
comprised
of
judges
from
all
parts
of
the
state,
both
urban
and
rural
judges.
F
The
membership
voted
to
give
the
committee
the
authority
to
establish
a
uniform
civil
penalty
schedule
that
would
be
implemented
by
all
limited
jurisdiction
courts
in
the
state.
As
of
now,
the
committee
has
voted
to
approve
a
uniform
civil
penalty
schedule.
That
schedule
has
been
circulated
among
all
of
the
member
courts.
F
Additionally,
it
has
become
apparent
that
a
statewide
online
civil
traffic
resolution
solution
would
be
beneficial
for
multiple
reasons.
Currently,
the
different
courts
have
no
way
of
knowing.
If
the
driver
has
citations
in
any
other
court,
a
statewide
system
would
give
access
to
every
court
to
see
what
citations
every
other
court
has.
F
F
F
Since
then,
the
supreme
court
has
approved
the
aoc,
including
a
request
for
funds
in
their
american
relief
plan,
act
application
that
has
been
submitted
to
the
governor's
finance
office
separately
in
clark
county.
There
is
an
established
working
group
that
meets
at
the
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department
to
work
through
all
of
the
issues
of
implementation
of
av-116.
F
There
are
representatives
from
the
state
of
nevada
department
of
public
safety,
district
attorney,
the
courts,
lvmpd
and
nevada
highway
patrol.
Some
of
the
issues
that
are
being
addressed
through
this
group
are
updating
the
knock
codes,
drafting
new
language
for
the
citations
and
establishing
training
for
the
officers.
F
D
Thank
you
judge
zimmerman.
Did
your
partner
on
the
presentation?
Judge
higgins
want
to
make
any
statements.
So
do
you.
A
D
Perfect,
I
know
that
cherish
I
will
step
down.
Excuse
me
stepped
out,
so
I
will
look
to
see
if
there
are
any
questions
here
in
this
room,
you
have
any.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
then
I'll
move
up
to
the
north
and
on
to
the
zoom.
F
D
And
I
know
that
one
of
the
provisions
of
ab-116
a
lot
of
the
courts
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
reduce
some
costs
without
having
to
issue
certified
mail,
and
so
there
are
electronic
notification
issues.
Do
you
know
if
that's
something
that
has
been
incorporated
into
the
conversations
about
what
the
new
citation
will
look
like
and
what
the
new
system
will
look
like.
F
Definitely
the
goal
with
the
new
citations
and
the
reason
why
they
need
to
draft
new
citations
is
to
include
all
of
the
requirements
of
ab116
on
the
citation
and
we
do
plan
to
notify.
You
know,
within
the
confines
of
ab116,
to
notify
the
people
who've
received
the
tickets
got
30
days
left
to
pay
or
address
it.
You
know,
so
we
will
comply.
D
And
as
far
as
like
you
had
heard,
my
probably
my
earlier
question,
I'm
sure
that
I'm
not
alone
in
having
concerns
about
the
sheer
number
of
tickets
that
are
being
reduced
to
illegal
parking
is
that
something
that's
been
a
part
of
your
conversations
about
what
these
reductions
look
like
when
people
when
it
moves
to
that
civil
citation.
D
Obviously,
we
have
some
interim
work
that
you
know
people
have
been
doing
to
try
to
get
rid
of
some
of
the
covet
backlog
in
the
traffic
ticket
world,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
can
speak
to
any
of
those
kind
of
discussions
or
incorporation
into
any
policies
that
you
guys
are
implementing
in
those
fines
and
fees
and
reductions.
So.
F
I
wish
chief
judge
saragosa
was
here
because
I'm
actually
not
here
on
behalf
of
las
vegas
justice
court
and
I
don't
have
any
personal
knowledge
of
your
statistics
about
cases
being
reduced
to
illegal
parking.
I
know
that
there,
if
you
have
a
speeding
ticket
one
to
ten
miles
per
hour
and
you
take
a
traffic
school,
you
could
get
it
reduced
to
an
illegal
parking
and
pay
a
fine,
but
that
wouldn't
happen
with
virtually
all
the
other
traffic
citations.
So
I
would
probably
disagree
with
your
statistics,
but
I
have
no
statistics
of
my
own.
F
D
I
guess
my
question
is
is
even
without
those
statistics
is
that
something
that's
a
part
of
your
conversation.
Moving
forward
with
the
you
know,
unified
fee
structure,
going
into
civil
citations
on
what
that
might
look
like
for
that
civil,
since
the
points
are
still
reported
potentially
to
the
dmv
like.
How
does
that
look.
F
Right
so,
of
course,
drivers
concerns
are
always
the
points
reported
to
dmv,
but
I
would
say,
the
nevada
judges
of
limited
jurisdiction
have
initially
been
focused
on
establishing
a
uniform
citation
schedule
and
our
conversations
in
our
clark
county
group
have
been
centered
around
the
knock
codes
and
redoing
the
citations.
So
I
would
have
to
say
we
haven't
discussed
that
yet,
but
we
still
meet
every
couple
of
weeks
and
I'm
sure
that
will
come
up.
F
Does
that
mean
the
officer
can't
issue
a
citation
criminally
and
then
let
the
d.a
decide
if
they
want
to
make
it
civil
or
criminal?
Those
are
the
questions
we're
talking
about
right
now,
because
we
need
policies
for
training
purposes
and
who
plans
to
answer
those
questions
I
mean
who
plans
to
make
that
call.
C
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
Thank
you
for
being
here
jud
zimmerman.
I
had
a
quick
question
about
pay
assessment
ability
pay
assessment.
Have
you
been
working
on
implementing
some
system
around
that.
F
C
D
D
L
L
Okay,
with
respect
to
the
reduction
to
parking
tickets,
I
believe
some
of
that
comes
out
of
nrs484b
600,
subsection
five,
which
establishes
the
presumption
in
favor,
of
reducing
the
speeding
ticket
to
a
non-moving
violation
if
the
payment
is
made
and
the
citation
is
made
before
the
appearance
date.
So
essentially,
what
happens
if
it's
paid
early,
it's
presumed
to
be
reduced
to
a
non-moving
and
that's
the
creation
I
think
came
out
of
the
2019
legislature,
and
so
a
lot
of
those
reductions
are
based
on
that
provision
of
the
law.
L
L
We
are
down
in
2022
we're
down
25
over
what
we
were
in
2020
and
45
down
than
on
what
we
were
in
2019
out
of
today's
date.
So
we
are
significantly
down
here
based
on
where
we
were
so
that's
my
information.
I
have
on
traffic.
D
And
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
if
we
can
move
on
to
your
presentation
on
assembly,
bill
424.
L
Okay,
this
is
where
I
actually
know
a
little
bit
more
so
again.
Thank
you.
Senator
the
nj
lj
conducted
a
survey
of
the
membership
prior
to
the
presentation
today
and
there's
we
broke
down
kind
of
the
biggest
challenges
and
hurdles
we're
going
to
face
under
currently
facing
into
about
five
different
ones,
and
I've
got
a
couple
things
from
for
my
own
personal
practice.
With
this.
L
One
of
our
first
challenge
is
going
to
be
just
technology.
The
rural
courts
don't
have
upgraded
technology
and
case
management
systems
to
conduct
hearings
remotely
and
transcend
paperwork.
Transmitting
paperwork
has
been
a
big
challenge
for
us
that
way,
particularly
with
respect
to
criminal
histories.
L
L
Personnel
is
another
problem
that
we're
going
to
be
facing.
There's
a
serious
lack
of
just
people
to
do
these
jobs,
prosecutors,
public
defenders,
jail
employees,
judges
who
are
available
six
days
a
week
to
conduct
these
hearings,
there's
a
lot
of
rural
courts
that
just
don't
have
the
personnel
or
just
aren't
available.
L
There's
only
three
employees
in
my
office,
and
they
aren't
particularly
excited
about
the
notion
of
having
to
come
in
every
third
weekend
and
deal
with
these
hearings.
Public
defenders
prosecutors,
jail
personnel.
It's
all!
It's
all
the
same
problems,
they
don't
care
about
over
time.
It's
a
work-life
balance
and
that's
sort
of
an
issue
there
cost
is
always
a
big
one.
L
We
have
significant
trouble
filling
those
and
when
it
came
time
specifically
in
my
county
to
look
at
paying
for
these
over
time
these
weekend
hearings,
the
county
just
essentially
bought
the
idea
of
paying
my
staff
to
be
on
call
that's
not
going
to
assist
in
getting
us
more
people,
even
if
we
had
the
funding
to
do
it.
L
Personally,
there's
been
a
lot
of
pushback
that
the
courts
are
experiencing
trying
to
implement
these
hearings.
It
comes
from
not
just
the
prosecutors
in
law
enforcement
which
you'd
expect,
but
also
from
the
public
defenders.
They
don't
want
to
work
these
weekends.
They
didn't
sign
up
to
work
this
weekend,
there's
been
talk
about
sharing
between
courts
and
I've
been
facilitating
a
lot
of
those
discussions
that
I
just
did,
I'm
not
sure
how
we're
going
to
make
it
work.
All
the
courts
are
slightly
different.
L
L
L
I
take
a
lot
of
flack
from
it
from
the
law
enforcement
officers,
jailors
other
judges,
defense
attorneys
and
the
public,
like
I'm
the
one
who
developed
this
process
and
created
it.
I
have
not
had
a
true
day
off
since
october
and
it's
killing
me
nobody
wants
or
is
able
to
fill
in.
For
these
all
the
other
courts
are
struggling
to
figure
out
how
they're
going
to
do
it
and
they're
not
particularly
able
to
assist
other
courts.
L
It's
a
rural
court
here
and
we're
pretty
flexible,
pretty
innovative
and
pretty
dang
efficient.
If
I
want
to
pat
myself
on
the
back,
but
it's
getting
overwhelming
at
this
point
in
time
that
it's
going
to
be
worse
for
other
courts
as
well.
L
My
concerns
going
forward
are
pretty
simple.
We
are
nearing
an
inflection
point
here
in
ely
justice
court.
We
don't
have
enough
defense
attorneys
to
cover
the
hearings.
We
had
a
big
problem
with
that.
Yesterday,
after
three
months
of
advertising,
we
found
nobody
who
wants
to
step
into
this
position.
Nobody
wants
to
deal
with
bids
or
the
county
that
doesn't
want
to
pay.
Also.
L
They
can
come
in
and
work
seven
days
a
week
on
weekends
by
getting
the
real
sense
that
this
whole
thing
is
going
to
collapse
under
its
own
weight
before
we
even
get
to
the
point
of
this
law
actually
being
mandatory
and
taking
effect
we're
having
all
of
these
problems-
and
it's
really-
you
can
hear
the
beams
creaking
already.
We
haven't
even
started
beyond
the
test
period
to
see
if
we
can
do
it.
So
there's
some
significant
problems
with
this
and
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
face
them.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
I'm
watching
the
clock
and
I
definitely
don't
want
to
cut
anybody
off
or
you
know
not
get,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
not
get
to
anybody.
So
I
am
going
to
limit
questions
at
this
point
to
just
a
few
minutes
and
then
ask
you
guys
to
follow
up
with
these
presenters
offline.
If
you
have
more
questions
so
that
said,
are
there
any
questions
from
the
committee.
A
C
L
I
ideally
I
don't
want
to
sound
glib
here
with
this,
but
ideally
making
it
48
business
hours,
so
we
don't
have
to
deal
with
the
weekends
in
the
holidays.
That
would
be
the
best
way
to
address
it.
If
I
had
that,
then
I
would
have
no
problems
at
all
beyond
that.
I
think
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
funding,
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
funding
for
more
defense.
L
Attorneys,
that's
been
the
biggest
problem
here
is
I
only
have
three
defense
attorneys
as
well,
and
one
of
them
has
just
retired,
so
I'm
down
to
two
and
they're
not
they're,
only
contracted
to
cover
a
third
of
the
cases,
so
a
third
of
my
cases
aren't
covered
so
until
we
can
up
that
funding
to
entice
more
people
to
come
and
deal
with
what
is
not
a
fun
or
tenable
job
anymore.
L
F
F
You
don't
have
prosecutors
that
want
to
cover
the
weekend.
You
don't
have
court
staff
that
want
to
come
in
and
cover
the
weekends.
Many
of
these
rural
courts
only
have
a
couple
of
employees.
So
to
expect
the
same
employees
to
cover
every
weekend
is
just
not
tenable.
It's
not
all
the
courts
are
not
the
same.
F
Las
vegas
justice
court
has
15
judges
and
hearing
masters
and
hundreds
of
employees,
so
it
is
very
easy
for
us
to
manage,
but
a
rural
court
with
only
a
couple
of
employees
and
one
judge,
no
amount
of
money
is
going
to
solve
the
problem
and
though
we
want
to
treat
everybody
the
same
throughout
the
state.
I
think
it's
important
for
the
legislature
to
recognize
that
all
these
courts
do
not
operate
the
same
and
there
is
no
amount
of
money
that
it's
going
to
bring
people
there
to
work
on
a
weekend.
F
A
D
D
A
question
go
ahead:
that's
okay
chair!
It
should
be
quick.
I
I
this
isn't
a
unique
situation
to
nevada.
I
know
that
there
are
states
such
as
alabama,
that
requires
these
hearings
within
24
hours
and
they
have
a
similar
population.
They
have
a
similar
rule-like
structure.
Has
the
courts
of
limited
jurisdiction
in
particular,
because
they
know
it's
affecting
them
reached
out
to
some
of
these
other,
like
similarly
situated
jurisdictions
to
find
out
how
they
are
accommodating
these?
D
L
F
Chad
zimmerman
here,
I
would
agree
with
judge
bishop
we've
been
concentrating
our
efforts
on
how
to
assist
the
rural
courts
with
upgrading
their
technology
and
doing
everything
possible
to
comply
with
ab424
when
it
comes
online.
But
I
can
certainly
contact
the
judges
in
alabama
and
find
out
how
they
do
it.
O
L
L
I
don't
know
that
I'm
going
to
have
to
work
on
sunday-
and
I
won't
know
until
tomorrow
morning,
so
my
weekend
is
now
shot
to
wherever
you
want
to
shoot
it
to
already
just
by
default,
though,
because
I
can't
plan
anything
because
I
don't
know
because
the
person
that
I
have
to
see
isn't
going
to
be
arrested
until
five
o'clock
tonight
so
between
five
o'clock
tonight
and
about
noon
tomorrow.
Whoever's
working
their
weekend
is
shot
either
way
and
so
come
noon
tomorrow.
It's
like
okay!
Well,
now
the
rest
of
my
weekend's
free.
L
What
am
I
gonna
do
with
this?
It's
easy
it's
easier
when
I
get
it.
If
I
get
up
in
the
morning
and
saturday
morning
at
six
o'clock,
and
I
see
that
there's
an
email
from
the
jail,
then
you've
got
to
see
this
guy
great.
I
know
what
I'm
doing
for
the
rest
of
the
week
and
you
can
plan.
Otherwise,
I'm
wondering
all
saturday.
I
wonder
if
maybe
somebody
forgot
to
send
me
something
which
happens
on
sunday
morning.
I
get
up
and
find
out.
I've
got
something
it's
easy
for
me.
L
I
go
to
church
in
the
morning.
I
swing
by
the
courthouse
on
the
way
home
at
11.
We
do
the
hearings,
it's
really
easy
when
I
know
I'm
going
to
get
them,
but
that's
me,
but
it's
hard
to
rope
in
an
attorney.
The
prosecutor
make
sure
the
jail
has
somebody
to
watch
the
person
to
bring
him
over.
That's
all
those
logistics
of
the
problem,
so
every
weekend
has
been
a
mess
because
of
this.
A
L
L
L
And
we
have
those
discussions,
we've
corrected
them,
but
there
have
been
days
where
that
has
been
a
problem,
because
it
takes
time
to
write
reports.
It
takes
time
to
sober
the
person
up.
It
takes
time
to
talk
to
witnesses
and
victims
and
all
of
those
sorts
of
things
to
make
sure
that
they
aren't
ready
to
write
that
pc
sheet
to
get
it
to
me.
It's
not
just
an
instantaneous
thing.
They
make
the
arrest
they
go
through
the
booking
process.
They
respond
to
another
call
and
respond
to
another
call.
A
Shocking,
if
I
got
as
soon
as
a
12
hour,
okay,
I
want
to
go
to
judge
higgins
for
just
a
minute.
I'm
sorry!
We
got
a
little
bit
out
of
order
on
our
presentations
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
from
you
about
sparks
justice,
court
and
I'll,
just
open
up
the
floor
to
you
to
to
opine
on
whatever's
relevant.
H
Thank
you,
chair
scheible,
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
opining,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
we're
doing.
In
washoe
county,
we
have
four
justice
courts.
Two
miss
two
municipal
courts,
the
district
court,
we're
meeting
with
them
the
sheriff
pre-trial
services,
the
d.a,
the
public
defender,
the
alternate
public
defender,
we're
meeting
about
every
other
week
to
hopefully
have
everything
in
place
by
july.
First,
you
know
the
the
paragraph
in
eb
424
extraneous
program
is
about
eight
lines.
Long,
the
devil
is
in
the
details,
as
they
say,
and
we're
working
on
working
weekends.
H
Some
of
the
issues
are,
I
know
the
d.a
has
requested
additional
personnel
and
funding
that
has
yet
to
be
provided
by
the
county
commission.
I
believe
the
public
defender
was
able
to
secure
some
funding
through
the
cares
or
covet
relief
funding
and
our
our
judges
have
set
up
a
rotation.
So
we're
going
to
be
hearing
cases
on
saturdays
and
sundays.
The
three
judges
here
will
be
doing
it
every
third
or
fourth
week.
Like
judge
bishop
says
our
weekends
will
be
shot
and
we
will
be
on
call
for
the
full
weekend.
H
Some
of
the
struggles
is:
how
do
we
get
things
done
within
the
48
hours
right
now,
our
pre-trial
services
is
pushing
law
enforcement
to
get
our
pc's
done
within
24
hours.
They
often
aren't
some
agencies,
don't
release
pcs
until
a
supervisor
approves
it
a
sergeant
or
a
lieutenant
at
highway
patrol
or
the
sheriff's
office
reads
the
pc
so
oftentimes
the
pcs
aren't
done
within
24
hours.
It's
not
infrequent
that
people
refuse
to
come
out
of
their
cells
or
are
incapable
of
being
heard
within
that
short
amount
of
time.
K
H
Does
that
constitute
a
waiver
if
we
can't
get
him
in
the
courtroom
in
48
hours,
interpreters
are
going
to
be
a
struggle,
we're
we've
hired
and
we're
going
to
have
a
spanish
interpreter
hired
to
cover
the
weekends
and
we'll
be
doing
these
in
the
mornings
sparks
municipal
court
will
be
at
8.
I'll,
be
at
8,
30.,
reno
justice
court
at
9
30.,
we
know
municipal
at
11..
Sparks
justice
card
also
covers
incline
and
wadsworth
for
these
hearings.
H
We'll
have
a
spanish
interpreter
online,
but
lately
we've
had
a
several
people
that
speak
martial
ease
in
our
courtroom.
That
usually
takes
us
a
week
or
more
to
secure
a
martial
ease
interpreter
to
have
a
hearing,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
we're
going
to
do
on
weekends.
If
that
is,
we
have
a
martial
as
person,
an
issue
that
I
know
chair
schiavo
the
legislature
has
considered
more
than
once
is
how
we
transfer
criminal
histories
we're
bound
by
federal
rules.
That
say
we
cannot
release
criminal
histories
to
non-law
enforcement
agencies.
H
Unfortunately,
the
public
defender
is
not
on
the
list
as
a
law
enforcement
agency,
an
agency
of
criminal
justice.
So
currently,
once
the
case
starts,
rda
provides
the
criminal
history
to
the
public
defender
in
the
discovery
process,
but
how
to
get
that
transferred
on
the
weekends
the
court.
Doesn't
we
can't
secondarily
disseminate
that
and
how
that
process
works
if
we
have
to
have
an
investigator
for
the
da's
office
in
at
five
o'clock
in
the
morning,
running
pcs
or
the
day
before
and
somehow
figure
out
how
to
share
them
for
the
public
offenders
office.
H
Private
council
is
an
issue.
I'm
not
sure
how
we're
going
to
wrote
private
council
into
this
and
advise
them
we're
going
to
have
staff
working.
We
have
we've
worked
out
with
staff,
so
somebody
will
be
working
late
friday
to
do
the
saturday
hearings
and
late
saturday
to
do
the
do
the
sunday
morning,
hearings
and
we
you
know,
personnel
and
funding.
H
We
had
the
our
population
was
such
that
we
were
in
the
position
of
pulling
the
trigger
on
a
fourth
judge,
we've
been
avoiding
that
it's
a
cost,
it's
expense,
but
we're
gonna.
We
did
it.
We
told
the
county
and
there's
a
fourth
judge
on
our
ballot
this
year
to
cover
here
in
sparks,
to
have
enough
judges
to
cover
the
weekends
so
we're
working
on
it.
There's
lots
of
details.
You
know
what's
clear
and
I
testified
on
this
bill
and
you
know
I
unders.
H
I
understand
what
went
into
it,
but
it's
clear
that
one
size
doesn't
fit
all
in
nevada
and
las
vegas
justice
court
has
his
judgment,
says:
15
judges
and
hundreds
of
employees.
H
Well,
I
have
we
have
three
judges
here
and
27
employees
we're
gonna,
make
weekends
work,
it's
going
to
be
a
stretch,
but
rural
nevada
is
is,
as
you've
heard,
have
have
challenges
and
we
I
had
testified
and
asked
that
it'd
be
48
judicial
hours
two
judicial
days,
so
we
were
able
to
do
it
with
what
and
you
know
the
public
policy
was
was
set
differently
than
that.
So
we'll
do
what
we
can
to
comply.
The
statute
says
that
these
have
to
happen
within
48
hours
unless
they
may
be
continued
for
good
cause.
H
So
I
haven't
discussed
that
with
the
world
judges,
but
I
I
wonder
in
some
courts
of
good
cause
is
going
to
be.
There's
no
d.a
public
defender
the
jail
doesn't
work.
Have
anybody
there.
I
sat
pro
tem.
I
won't
tell
you
the
court,
I
don't
want
to
embarrass
them.
I
sat
pro
tem
for
a
court
on
arraignments
when
the
judge
was
on
vacation
and
the
clerk
called
me
and
says
whatever
you
do,
don't
put
anybody
in
jail
judge
and
I
go.
Why
is
that
he
goes
the
jailer's
on
vacation.
H
We
only
have
one
jailer
and
there's
nobody
in
the
jail
to
watch
an
inmate
for
a
week
if
you
put
somebody
into
custody.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
challenges
that
that
happen
in
rural
nevada,
so
we're
pushing
forward.
We've
got
disagreements
internally
on
this
committee.
We
want
we
want
to
set
deadlines,
so
my
proposal
is
everybody
arrested
by
noon
on
thursday
would
be
seen
on
saturday
morning.
Everybody
by
noon
on
friday
would
be
seen
on
sunday
morning.
That
gives
us
a
day
and
a
half
to
get
the
public.
H
The
pc
done
the
public
defender
a
chance
to
interview
their
client
the
jail
knowing
how
to
get
people
up,
and
it
takes
the
jail
several
hours
to
get
somebody
in
jail
at
8
30
at
our
jail
to
get
them
through
the
process.
They
have
to
be
out
of
their
cell
by
five,
so
all
that
has
to
be
click
into
place
and
and
we're
working
on
it
and
we're
trying
to
get
an
agreement
put
in
place.
H
And
you
know
we
have
a
pre-cross
services
program
here-
that
we
try
to
use
to
release
as
many
people
as
we
can
before.
All
of
this
happens
not
to
get
sidetracked.
One
of
the
challenges
was
that
sb
369
deleted
some
of
the
language
that
authorized
the
courts
to
release
people
with
a
pre-trial
services
program.
H
Frankly,
I
I
thought
we
had
the
inherent
authority
to
do
it,
so
we're
still
doing
it
we're
still
using
our
pre-trial
services
program
here
in
sparks.
Not
every
court
is
some
courts
are
the
opinion
they
can't
use
that
process
until
july.
First
because
of
the
language
change,
there
were
several
competing
bills
and
I
think
that
was
a
a
gap
between
the
two
bills
when
they
were
enacted
that
it
wasn't,
it
wasn't
taken
into
account
so
we're
working
hard.
H
The
opinions
differ
as
john
mccormick
indicated
and
judge
zimmerman
indicated
we're
not
a
centralized
court,
we're
not
a
unified
court
system
in
in
california.
If
the
supreme
chief
justice
says
all
courtrooms
are
painted,
white
all
courtrooms
are
painted
white
here
in
nevada.
We
operate
independently.
We
have
our
independent
funding.
We
have
to
go
to
our
own
city
councils
and
county
commissions
for
resources,
and
we've
been
lucky
here
in
washoe
county
that
our
county
commission
has
worked
with
us
quite
a
bit,
but
not
every
county
in
nevada
has
the
same
resources.
H
We
do
so
we're
going
to
make
it
work
here.
It's
going
to
be
there'll,
be
some
growing
pains
we're
going
to
get
a
mou
put
in
place
where
we
all
agree
how
to
do
it
in
writing.
H
A
Thank
you,
I'm
sure
we'll
have
some
questions,
assembly,
women,
summer's
armstrong
or
presner.
C
You
so
much.
I
appreciate
that
so
I
just
want
to
get
a
little
bit
of
clarification.
Are
we
when
you,
when
you
talk
about
all
courts
not
being
equal?
Are
you
suggesting
that
some
nevadans
should
have
different
rights
than
other
nevadans
based
upon
whether
they
live?
Maybe
in
a
rural
area
or
a
or
more
urban
one?
How
do
we
treat
courts
differently
but
also
assure
that
all
nevadans
are
treated
equally
under
our
constitution
and
laws.
H
Oh,
I
I
I
think
you
asked
me
the
same
question
senator
when
I
testified
on
this
bill,
and
I
said
no
that
everybody
should
be
treated
equally,
and
I
have
no
disagreement
about
that
and
I
have
no
disagreement
that
bail
reform
is
necessary
and
we've
been
pushing
in
washoe
county
for
several
years
with
pre-flow
risk
assessments.
Early
releases
we've
done
everything
we
can
in
that
regard,
and
I
think
it's
time
to
change
it.
H
What
I'm
saying,
though,
is
that
the
courts
in
rural
nevada
don't
have
the
same
resources
as
we
do
in
washoe
county
and
the
courts
in
rural
nevada.
Don't
have
the
you've
heard
from
judge
bishop
they've
advertised
for
a
public
defender
and
nobody
has
offered
to
take
the
contract
to
work
in
an
ely.
So
there
are
practical
problems
involved
in
in
a
state
that
is
a
non-unified
court
system
that
is,
for
the
most
part,
not
generally
funded.
You
know.
H
The
state
supreme
court
relies
on
administrative
assessments
in
the
judiciary
for
a
huge
amount
of
its
money
and
it's
a
resource
and
personnel
issue,
so
not
not
to
be
glib,
but
I
don't
think
the
roads
get
paved.
H
The
same
way
in
rural
nevada,
they
get
paved
in
washoe
county
because
we've
got
money
to
pay
for
the
paving
crew
and
the
and
the
asphalt
and
a
lot
of
the
resources
that
we
have
in
clark,
county
and
washoe
county
aren't
available
in
rural
nevada
and
I'm
not
saying
that
they
should
have
a
separate
constitutional
protection
and
that
equal
protection
doesn't
apply,
I'm
all
in
favor
of
a
unified,
a
uniform
fine
system.
So
every
speeding
ticket
nevada
is
the
same.
Fine.
H
I've
been
I've
been
in
favor
of
that
for
years,
but
we're
talking
the
practicalities
and
and
how
how
we
do
that
in
in
a
I,
I
think,
esmerelda
county.
The
last
I
looked
has
1500
people
that
lived
there.
H
I
have
there's
more
people
in
my
homeowners
association
than
there
are
in
that
county
and
I
certainly
don't
have
the
same
resources
we
do
here.
So
it's
a
resource
issue.
It's
not
a
constitutional
issue,
it's
not
a
decision.
Somebody
gets
lesser
rights.
It's
it's
a
practical
money
issue.
A
If
there
are
no
more
questions
from
down
south,
I
also
have
a
practical
kind
of
question
about
the
rural
courts.
Do
we
still
have
any
courts
in
nevada
that
are
not
set
up
to
utilize
video
teleconferencing.
L
I
do
not.
This
is
judge
bishop
for
the
record.
I
do
not
know
of
any
of
this.
I
don't
know
I
would
not
be
shocked
to
know
there
are
a
handful
that
are
not
set
up
to
do
it.
It's
quite
frankly,
not
easy
to
conduct
a
hearing
remotely
it's
very
difficult.
L
I
am
very
tech
savvy,
even
though
I
don't
like
it,
but
it's
it's
a
challenge
for
me
to
do
and
we
do
them
regularly,
but
it
only
takes
one
cross
wire
or
one
mouse
to
chew.
On
a
wire
for
my
whole
system
to
come
crashing
down
around
my
ears,
I
wouldn't
be
shocked
that
there
aren't
some.
A
All
right.
I
am
not
seeing
any
further
questions,
so
I
believe
that
brings
us
to
the
conclusion
of
subsection
c
of
item
number
four.
Before
we
move
on
to
subsection
d,
we're
going
to
go
back
to
item
number
three
on
the
agenda
because
I
forgot
it
originally.
This
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
february
11th
meeting.
A
A
O
C
A
P
Good
morning
cher
scheibel,
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
marcie
riba
and
I
serve
as
the
executive
director
for
the
department
of
indigent
defense
services
with
me.
Today
are
thomas
qualls
and
peter
handy,
the
deputy
directors
in
the
department-
and
we
are
just
very
grateful
for
this
opportunity
to
come
in
and
introduce
ourselves
to
you,
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
road
map
of
where
we
have
been
why
we
have
been
started
and
where
we're
hoping
to
go
in
this
next
legislative
session.
P
B
A
P
P
So,
where
have
we
been?
We
were
legislatively
created
in
2019
by
this
legislature
in
assembly,
bill,
81
and
part
of
the
catalyst
for
creating
us
is
in
2018.
The
aclu
brought
a
lawsuit
against
the
state
on
behalf
of
defendants
in
10
rural
counties,
claiming
that
or
challenging
the
constitutionality
of
the
defendant's
policies
and
practices
in
indigent
defense
services.
P
This
stipulated
consent
judgment
calls
for
the
elimination
of
economic
disincentives
for
indigent
defense
providers.
It
requires
our
board
to
establish
minimum
standards
and
provide
training
and
resources
for
indigent
defense
providers,
and
it
requires
uniform
data
collection
and
quarterly
data
reports
to
be
published.
P
In
addition
to
those
requirements
in
that
stipulated
consent
judgment,
we
do
have
several
requirements
in
nrs
180
that
state
certain
requirements
that
our
board
is
supposed
to
undertake
since
we've
been
established.
What
we
have
been
able
to
create
permanent
regulations
which
went
into
effect
this
past
year
and
it
sets
forth
many
of
these
minimum
standards,
data
collection
requirements,
and
it
also
sets
forth
a
maximum
contribution
formula
to
determine
the
maximum
amount
that
a
county
needs
to
pay
for
indigent
defense
services.
P
In
addition,
our
department
has
been
able
to
meet
with
all
of
the
rural
counties
in
order
to
build
plans
for
the
provision
of
indigent
defense
services.
Historically,
in
2008
the
supreme
court,
the
nevada
supreme
court
issued
an
administrative
court
order,
80
kt
411.
in
that
order.
They
asked
all
counties
every
county
across
the
state
to
enter
into
a
plan
for
the
provision
of
indigent
defense
services.
P
Clark,
county
and
washoe
county
entered
into
these
plans
back
then,
but
the
rural
counties
asked
for
a
stay.
They
just
weren't
able
to
do
it.
They
didn't
have
that
staff,
but
with
the
creation
of
our
department,
we've
been
able
to
assist
all
of
these
rural
counties
in
entering
into
those
plans,
and
every
plan
for
provision
of
indigent
defense
services
can
be
found
on
our
website,
which
is
d-I-d-s,
dot,
n-v
dot
gov.
P
Our
department
has
also
successfully
passed
assembly
bill,
480,
creating
separation
from
the
judiciary
and
indigent
defense
providers.
One
goal
through
davis
is
that
we're
supposed
to
encourage
that
indigent
defense
providers
had
the
same
oversight
from
the
judiciary
as
prosecutors
or
independent
attorneys,
so
with
assembly
bill
480,
it
changed
the
selection
process.
After
the
appointment
of
council,
it
also
changed
the
process
for
council
being
able
or
for
courts.
Excuse
me,
council,
indigent
defense
council
being
able
to
ask
for
experts
in
investigator
fees
in
criminal
cases.
P
P
We
also
have
been
required
to
enter
into
a
weighted
caseload
study,
we've
contracted
with
the
national
center
of
state
courts,
and
this
study
is
in
place
right
now
to
determine
how
many
public
defenders
are
needed
in
each
county
to
be
able
to
handle
the
case.
Load
we've
also
successfully
rolled
out
a
case
management
system.
The
case
management
system
that
we
are
using
as
legal
server
legal
server
has
been
provided
free
of
charge
to
all
indigent
defense
provider
to
be
able
to
enter
into
the
cases
the
case
type.
P
The
number
of
hours
worked
on
a
case
and
the
ultimate
outcome.
We
are
using
this
data
to
publish
quarterly
reports.
Our
first
report
was
actually
published
last
quarter
and
we'll
be
publishing
another
report
this
month
to
actually
get
this
this
hard
data
on
indigent
defense
providers
and
how
many
hours
they're
working
and
how
many
are
needed.
P
P
P
In
order
to
assist
with
the
rural
counties
being
able
to
come
to
this
training,
we
successfully
obtained
a
45
000
federal
grant
to
pay
the
training
or
the
travel
expenses
for
the
rural,
indigent
defense
providers,
travel
costs
and
hotel
rooms,
because
we
want
to
encourage
them
to
come.
We
want
to
give
them
every
opportunity
to
be
there
to
build
a
community
with
other
public
defenders
and
to
learn.
We
are
providing,
I
think,
about
12
cle
credits
in
this
training
that
we're
putting
on.
P
We
also
have
taken
steps
to
provide
resources
to
indigent
defense
providers.
In
the
rurals
we
successfully
obtained
a
grant
for
twenty
six
thousand
dollars,
as
I
start
to
create
a
pipeline
to
encourage
unlv,
boyd
school
of
law
graduates
to
consider
moving
to
the
rural
counties
and
practicing
in
indigent
defense.
P
This
twenty
six
thousand
dollar
grant
will
be
turned
into
four
separate.
Sixty
five
hundred
dollar
stipends
to
be
able
to
pay
for
students
to
go
to
a
rural
county,
live
in
the
county
and
work
for
that
summer.
Externship
we
have
successfully
chosen
two
externs
one
will
be
placed
in
elko
and
the
other
will
be
placed
in
carson
city
at
the
carson
city
public
defender's
office.
So
it's
it's
exciting
to
see
this
possibility
of
students
being
encouraged
to
come
out
and
try
out
the
rural
counties.
P
P
So,
what's
our
our
vision
for
the
future,
these
are
three
of
our
big,
bold
ideas
that
we're
we're,
hoping
to
kind
of
just
introduce
you
to,
and
hopefully
we
can
make
come
forth
in
the
next
legislative
session.
We
want
to
create
resilient
communities,
we
want
to
balance
the
scales
and
we
want
to
bridge
to
system
bridge
to
sustainability
for
indigent
defense.
P
One
idea
we
have
to
create
resilient
resilient
communities
is
to
create
a
holistic
resource
center
within
the
public,
defender's
offices
or
within
our
department
of
indigent
defense
services.
Rand
corporation
did
a
study
of
the
bronx
holistic
resource
center.
It
was
a
10
year
study
and
they
found
several
key
findings
over
that
10-year
study.
They
found
that
holistic
representation
in
the
bronx
prevented
more
than
one
million
days
of
incarceration
and
just
pausing
for
a
moment.
P
So
our
goal
is
to
create,
within
the
department
of
indigent
defense
services,
that
holistic
resource
center,
where
we
can
connect
public
defenders
and
their
clients
with
social
workers.
Behavioral
health
specialists,
substance
abuse,
evaluators
immigration
attorneys.
If
we're
able
to
get
the
resources
for
that,
and
I
provide
a
picture
up
on
the
board
what
this.
What
this
is
is
a
sequential
intercept
model,
and
this
was
developed
by
samsa
gain
center
and
it
basically
talks
about
different
points
where
you
can
intercept
with
an
individual.
That's
you
know
in
in
trouble
in
crisis.
P
We
believe
that
public
defenders
would
be
at
intercept
point
two,
that
initial
detention,
initial
court
hearings
where
an
individual
is
arraigned,
but
they
haven't
really
worked
into
their
case
quite
significantly,
are
also
intercept.
Point
three:
a
public
defender
is
generally
the
person
that
has
to
ask
the
judge
to
send
their
client
to
drug
court
or
to
send
their
client
into
a
specific
treatment
program.
But
without
giving
these
public
defenders
the
resources
to
be
able
to
number
one
determine
whether
or
not
their
client
has
that
that
issue.
P
That's
that's
kind
of
something
that
we're
having
an
issue
with.
At
this
point,
it
seems
like
intercept
point
one,
there's
resources
being
given
to
law
enforcement
such
as
ipads
to
help
put
them
in
treatment.
But
ultimately,
if
the
individuals
get
arrested,
it
seems
like
there's
not
really
the
resources
being
provided
to
the
public
defenders
to
really
be
able
to
assist
their
clients.
P
I
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
having
us
here.
My
name
is
tom
qualls
q-u-a-l-q-u-a-l-l-s
for
the
record.
I'll,
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
before
I
go
through
that
list
there,
just
indigent
defense,
as
marcy
covered
and
as
we've
seen
from
judge
discussion
here
today,
is
a
little
bit
at
a
flash
point
right
now.
There's
a
crisis
across
the
state
and
indigent
defense
is
fundamental
to
the
health
and
resilience
of
all
of
our
communities
in
nevada.
I
It's
not
just
about
criminal
defense,
or
you
know
the
the
things
that
we
see
in
the
headline.
We
see
a
full
gamut
of
people
and
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
the
marginalized
populations.
I
A
huge
percentage
of
the
people
in
the
system
have
some
either
one
or
more
of
you
know
the
symptoms
of
mental
health,
substance,
abuse,
poverty,
housing,
insecurity,
domestic
violence,
the
list
goes
on,
and
often
one
or
more
of
these
factors
is
instrumental
in
them
being
in
the
system.
I
This
little
section
here
in
our
vision
is
called
balance
the
scales,
because
the
scales
of
justice
are
supposed
to
be
balance.
You
know
the
the
prosecution
and
the
defense
are
supposed
to
be
equal
and
have
equal
resources,
and
that's
you
know
not
been
the
case
for
a
long
time.
I
I
Only
washoe
and
clark
were
able
to
comply
with
adkt
411
at
the
time,
and
then
it
took
the
aclu
lawsuit
and
the
creation
art
department
to
finally
begin
building.
You
know
what
was
started
back
in
1992,
but
a
lot
of
time
has
lapsed
and
a
lot
of
erosion
in
the
system.
Public
defenders
are
a
rare
breed.
You
need
to
be
really
smart
and
capable,
and
also
you
know,
compassionate
and
courageous.
I
You
need
to
wear
a
whole
lot
of
hats:
you're,
not
just
an
attorney
in
court
you're,
a
counselor
you're,
a
social
worker
you're
a
lot
of
different
things,
and
it
is
right
now
at
a
crisis
point
as
far
as
the
system
being
underfunded
and
the
people
in
it
being
overworked,
and
I
don't
I'm
not
being
hyperbolic
when
I
say
to
an
inhumane
level
I'll
give
you
a
couple
of
examples.
I
I
Another
judge
that
we
recently
talked
to
used
to
hold
one
of
these
public
defender
contracts
and
she
said
that
she
looked
at
the
numbers
at
the
end
of
the
year,
subtracted
her
overhead
from
the
contract
price
and
then
looked
at
the
number
of
hours
she
worked
and
she
was
basically
making
15
an
hour
again.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming
and
it's
one
of
the
things
that,
as
the
rand
study
points
out,
the
more
states
and
communities
kind
of
ignore
and
underfund
this
actually
the
more
money
it
ends
up
costing.
I
I
But
of
course
that
alone
is
not
enough.
We
heard
from
judge
bishop
and
I
will
say
that
white
pine's
situation
is
not
unique
in
which
they
have
a
public
con
public
defender,
contract
open
and
can't
find
anyone
to
take
it
and
again,
a
huge
part
of
that
there's
a
number
of
factors,
but
a
huge
part
of
that
is
the
amount
of
the
contract
that
the
county
is
offering
and
you
know
able
to
pay.
They
cannot
attract
quality
talent.
They
cannot
attract
people
with
high
student
loan
debt.
I
That's
a
lot
of
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
the
boyd
school
of
law
is
that
the
reduced
number
of
people
interested
in
going
into
public
defense
is
that
it's
a
simple
matter
of
numbers.
They
can't
afford
to
do
it.
The
department
when
it
was
established
pursuant
to
the
davis
stipulated
consent
judgment.
It's
my
understanding.
This
was
pre-coveted
that
the
intention
was
to
put
in
the
department's
budget
somewhere
between
10
and
15
million
dollars.
I
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
mandated
to
do
is
this
weighted
caseload
study
that
we're,
in
the
middle
of
from
the
ncsc,
the
national
center
for
state
courts,
they're
finishing
that
up
we're
going
to
provide
them
with
the
final
numbers,
probably
by
the
end
of
this
week,
we're
gathering
it
from
our
legal
server
case
management
system
and
from
our
delphi
studies
across
the
state.
I
But
when
we
get
those
weighted
caseload
studies,
they're
going
to
come
back
with
with
standards
for
hours
worked
and
caseload,
you
know
caps
on
caseload,
which
is
going
to
result
in
different
numbers
for
each
county
based
upon
the
current
caseloads.
Like
I
said
the
the
one
example
of
the
472
cases
already,
I
can
promise
you
that
the
recommendation
from
those
numbers
is
going
to
be
that
that
county
needs
to
increase
the
number
of
attorneys
that
they
have
on
contract
significantly
or
in
you
know,
an
organized
public
defender's
office.
I
If
that's
what's
necessary,
the
counties
will
have
one
year,
I
believe,
from
the
from
the
publishing
of
those
standards
in
order
to
comply
with
that.
The
only
way
they're
going
to
be
able
to
comply
is
if
the
state
honors
the
funding
under
the
maximum
contribution
formula
which
again
is
mandated
by
the
stipulated
consent
judgment
and
by
the
regulation
it's
set
by
our
board.
I
Okay.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
do
to
address
this
is
is
also
a
salary
survey
to
bring
public
defenders
across
the
strait,
the
state
up
to
parity
with
their
prosecutor
counterparts,
but
also
based
upon
other
metrics,
like
cost
of
living
increase,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
address
the
the
hourly
rate
for
appointed
counsel.
That
is
if,
if
a
public
defender
or
the
contract
public
defender
is
in
the
county,
every
county
set
up
a
little
bit
different
have
conflicts.
I
Then
then
we're
required
to
appoint
someone
from
our
from
our
qualified
list.
Another
attorney
for
a
qualified
list
and
the
statute
currently
sets
the
rate
at
a
hundred
dollars
an
hour
that
statute
and
that
rate
has
not
increased
since
2003..
I
The
preliminary
cost
of
living
study
that
we
did,
we
will
finalize,
shows
that
the
cost
of
living
in
nevada
has
essentially
gone
up
50
since
that
time
and
to
clarify
the
hundred
dollars
an
hour
is
not
just
you
know
like
working
a
a
retail
job
and
getting
a
hundred
dollars
an
hour
that
has
to
cover
all
of
the
overhead
of
the
office,
including
assistance
rent
whatever
and
whatever
the
attorney
has
left
over
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
We
also
hope
to
a
lot
of
the
rural
counties.
Do
not
have
access
to
a
lot
of
the
resources
that
the
urban
counties
do.
Marcy
mentioned
the
holistic
resource
center
that
we
hope
to
create.
That
will
be
a
centralized
place
to
provide
or
connect
all
the
rural
counties
with
these
resources.
Similarly,
we'd
like
to
build
a
complex
litigation
unit
which
would
provide
litigation,
support,
attorneys
that
are
specialized
in
death
penalty
cases
and
other
high-level
category
a
complex
cases,
so
the
so
that
we
could
step
in
and
handle
those
matters
for
them.
I
There's
also
the
ability
for
the
counties
to
transfer
responsibility
for
direct
appeals
and
for
death
penalty
cases
to
the
state
direct
appeals
would
be
no
cost
to
the
county
and
death
penalty
cases.
The
state
will
cover
75
percent
and
the
counties
will
cover
25
percent
of
those
expenses
skipping
down
ab24
ab
424
was
discussed.
This
does
put
a
significant
burden
on
the
rural
counties.
It
is
going
to
be
an
added
cost.
I
I
think
that's
about
all.
I
have
on
this
list
I'll
turn
it
over
to
peter
handy.
Q
Q
As
marcy
kind
of
explained,
the
board
set
up
the
contribution
formula
over
the
last
year.
It's
now
codified.
Well,
I
think
it's
about
to
be
codified.
It's
in
regulation
and
most
counties
have
actually
acted
in
very
good
faith
efforts
over
the
past
year
to
to
really
build
out
their
programs
of
energy
and
defense
services,
so
they've
expanded
or
pledged
funds,
above
and
beyond
what
they've
budgeted
in
past
years,
many
of
them
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
over
their
prior
budgets.
Q
So
they
really
are
relying
on
the
state
to
reimburse
them
for
those
funds
they
intend
or
have
been
expending,
and
it
would
be
a
really
good
show
of
faith
for
for
the
state
to
earmark
more
funds
than
for
just
the
davis
county.
Certainly,
the
davis
counties
need
to
be
reimbursed
on
a
priority
basis,
they're
subject
to
the
consent
decree
in
the
davis
case,
but
the
rest
of
the
counties
that
are
also
expending
significant
amount
of
funds
are
also
owed
some
earmarked
dollars.
Q
So
they
can
reasonably
rely
on
the
state
being
able
to
reimburse
them
at
the
end
of
their
fiscal
year.
On
that
basis,
certainly
as
as
judge
higgins
and
bishop
and
and
I'm
sure,
you've
all
heard
that
there's
somehow
an
unfunded
mandate,
we
don't
believe
that's
true.
We
think
the
legislature
intends
to
honor
the
state's
promise
and
refund
the
counties.
Q
If
you're
interested
in
how
the
the
maximum
contribution
formula
is
calculated,
it's
regulation
number
18.
again
yet
to
be
codified,
a
specific
provision
in
chapter
nec
180.
effectively.
It's
just
some
base
year,
calculations
off
of
prior
budgets
and
adding
cpi
over
time.
To
that
number
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
incentives
for
data
collection,
we're
always
reaching
out
to
try
and
find
funding
to
try
and
make
the
workload
the
case
load
the
cost
to
each
of
the
counties
lower.
Q
We're
looking
at
developing
student
loan
repayment
assistance
programs,
as
somebody
who
has
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
student
loan
debt,
I
can
tell
you
that
it
can
be
crushing.
Certainly,
there
is
a
need
for
student
loan
repayment
assistance
for
both
engine
defense
providers,
district
attorneys,
government
employees
and
legal
aid
service
providers,
and
that's
because
the
wages
aren't
compensable
or
comparable
to
private
sector
jobs.
Certainly,
there
is
federal
student
loan
forgiveness
after
10
years
of
making
payments
provided
the
funds
still
exist
in
10
years.
Q
Pay
parity
we've
already
discussed
a
little
bit
about
how
we've
retained
a
data
analyst
that
data
analyst
is
going
to
be
surveying
salary
data
both
within
the
state
of
nevada
outside
the
state
of
nevada,
trying
to
determine
what
kind
of
salaries
would
be
commensurate
for
public
defenders
as
they
relate
to
their
similarly
situated
prosecuting
attorneys
and
also
considering
contract
values.
Since
many
of
these
counties
do
have
contract
attorneys,
who
have
to
bear
their
own
overhead,
have
to
bear
their
own
expenses
for
employees,
payroll
taxes,
etc.
Q
In
a
way,
that's
included
in
most
budgets
for
county
agencies.
Community
building.
This
is
something
that's
very
important
to
us
as
we
continue
to
work
with
the
counties
to
develop
their
engine.
Defense
programs,
tom
and
marcy,
are
regularly
traveling
the
state
to
try
and
meet
with
local
counties
to
meet
with
clients
to
meet
with
defense
service
providers.
Q
With
local
prosecutors
to
try
and
work
out
how
things
are
happening
in
that
county,
so,
what's
happening
in
white
pine
county
is
going
to
be
different
than
what's
happening
in
lander.
County
is
what's
different,
is
happening
in
douglas
or
carson
city,
and
it's
important
that
we
have
the
ability
to
continue
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
those
counties,
see
what's
happening
on
the
ground.
Q
Have
those
conversations
with
the
people
that
are
working
there
with
the
county
boards
of
commissioners,
with
the
supports
of
supervisors
with
the
defense
providers,
with
judges
to
continue
to
see
how
we
can
better
facilitate
services
in
those
areas
for
training?
You
heard
marcie
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
annual
conference
and
our
monthly
trainings,
we're
hoping
to
provide
more
training
as
time
goes
on.
We're
really
focused
on
implementing
statewide
practice
of
holistic
defense,
which
was
spoken
about
earlier.
We
mentioned
the
rand
study.
Q
That
study
was
later
verified
by
the
department
of
justice
that
holistic
defense
does
reduce
incarceration
times
for
criminal
defendants,
so
we're
trying
to
get
training
on
a
monthly
and
annual
basis
out
to
the
attorneys
practicing
energy
and
defense,
trying
to
adopt
those
practices.
And
again
we
were
talking
about
that
holistic
resource
center.
Q
It's
again
providing
those
services
to
attorneys
to
be
able
to
better
implement
that
evidence-based
practice
and
try
and
reduce
costs
to
the
state
and
to
the
counties
when
they're
having
to
incarcerate
persons
for
longer
periods
of
time
and
we're
working
with
the
state
bar
to
try
and
develop
an
indigent
defense
incubator.
The
state
bar
has
a
fantastic
program
called
handlebar,
where
they
do
have
an
incubator
program
for
new
attorneys
that
are
trying
to
kind
of
break
out
on
their
own.
Q
P
And
this
slide
contains
our
contact
information
of
how
you
can
get
a
hold
of
us.
If
you
have
any
questions
as
to
what
we
are
doing,
you
know
we
we
will
be
reaching
out
to
the
legislature
in
this
next
budget,
build
to
be
able
to
really
put
all
of
these
things
into
action.
We've
had
this
opportunity
to
lay
the
foundation
with
the
pandemic
subsiding,
where
we're
actually
being
able
to
go
out
and
see
people
face
to
face,
which
is
quite
nice
and-
and
that's
really
been.
P
Our
goal
is
to
start
building
these
relationships
that
we
weren't
able
to
build
before,
because
of
that.
So
with
that,
if
you
have
any
questions,
we've
completed
our
presentation.
A
Thank
you
any
questions
from
our
colleagues
on
zoom.
A
I'm
not
seeing
any
so
we'll
go
down
to
senator
harris
and
vice.
D
Chairwin,
I
I
just
have
one
question:
yeah
go
ahead.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up
about
indigent
defense.
I
guess
compensation
and
also
resources.
I
know
we've
talked
about
that
holistic
center
and
you
know
resources
for
council
and
I
think
it's
very
timely,
given
the
conversation
that
we
just
had
about
being
able
to
get
people
into
that.
D
So
I
appreciate
the
work
you
guys
are
doing,
especially
since
you're
such
a
new
agency,
and
I
hope
I
speak
for
all
the
other
members
of
the
committee-
that
we
have
an
open
door
policy
to
talk
about
how
we
can
solve
some
of
the
problems,
especially
in
our
rural
communities,
and
making
sure
that
they
have
equal
access
to
justice
under
our
laws
and
our
constitution.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
and
I
also
have
a
question,
I'm
assuming
that,
like
the
rest
of
law-
or
you
know,
legal
employers
in
the
state,
you
you
work
mostly
with
boyd.
Most
of
the
indigent
defense
attorneys
in
nevada,
come
from
boyd.
Are
there
any
other
schools
that
you're
able
to
recruit
from,
or
are
there
any
patterns
that
we're
seeing
or
is
part
of
the
problem
with
getting
indigent
defense
lawyers
into
the
you
know
into
the
pool
that
we
have
a
limited
pool
graduating
from
boyd
and
that's
basically,
our
whole
pool.
P
Thank
you
chair.
That's
a
wonderful
question.
I
I
think
you
answered
it
at
the
end,
we
have
a
limited
pool
of
individuals
that
are
graduating
from
unlv,
boyd,
school
of
law
and
clark
county
is
such
a
strong
economic
area
where
most
of
them
don't
need
to
leave
that
area
to
find
any
other
sort
of
employment.
P
We
had
a
meeting
with
judge,
simons
and
elko,
who
is
a
unif,
unlv,
boyd
school
graduate
and
graduate,
and
he
expressed
concerns
that
he
can't
get
anyone
from
boyd
to
apply
for
his
clerkships
after
they
come
out
of
law
school.
So
we're
we're
really
trying
to
work
on
encouraging
individuals
to
come
and
see
the
rural
communities.
P
The
two
externs
that
we
have
coming.
One
of
them
is
from
the
east
coast.
She's
moved
to
the
clark
county
area
and
she's
actually
never
been
to
rural
nevada,
so
she's
taking
this
as
an
opportunity
to
come
out
and
explore
and
we're
hoping
that
she
takes
good
words
back
to
all
of
her
her
classmates
to
tell
them
how
great
this
is.
I
Following
up
on
that,
if
I
could
tom
calls
for
the
record,
a
number
of
the
public
defenders
offices
are
actually
recruiting
from
out
of
state.
Now,
due
to
the
limited
pool
here,
we
would
love
to
give
boyd
students.
You
know
priority,
but
again,
due
to
the
shortage
across
the
state,
I
think
most
counties
are
starting
to
look
and
try
to
recruit
from
out
of
state.
Q
And
if
I
could
again
follow
up,
I'm
sorry
peter
handy
for
the
record
as
a
mcgeorge
alum.
I
would
hope
that
we're
looking
at
other
schools,
I
think
it'd
be
a
poor,
a
poor
choice
to
foreclose
other
opportunities
than
just
the
boyd
school
of
law.
Q
Certainly,
there
are
a
lot
of
great
aba
accredited
law
schools
across
the
country
that
nevada
could
benefit
from
the
graduates
of,
and
I
think
we
should
be
working
with
as
many
as
are
willing
to
send,
especially
in
the
local
area,
idaho,
utah
california
area,
to
work
with
graduates
of
law
schools
to
bring
them
in
to
work
here.
I
A
A
Is
there
a
an
interest
or
a
group
that
works
primarily
with
lawyers
across
the
country
who
want
to
be
in
rural
jurisdictions,
who
maybe
come
from
other
states
or
other
places,
but
they
want
that
that
lifestyle
of
a
small
town
of
you
know
being
the
only
you
know,
defense
attorney
in
town,
that
kind
of
thing,
or
is
there
really
not
kind
of
a
network
for
rural
lawyers.
P
Thank
you
and
marcia
reba
for
the
record.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
statewide
net
network
or
a
nationwide
network,
we
have
been
able,
with
funding
from
the
interim
finance
committee,
to
retain
that
data.
Analyst
and-
and
one
thing
he's
looking
into-
is
creating
that
pipeline
to
get
individuals
to
come
up
to
the
rural
counties.
There
are
other
states
that
have
created
certain.
P
P
So
that
is
what
we
are
doing.
We
are
also
working
with
the
state
bar.
They
are
hearing
the
issue
as
well,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
form
a
small
committee
to
talk
about
what
the
bar
can
do.
What
we
can
do
to
encourage
people
to
come
out
to
the
rurals.
P
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation
and
for
that
discussion
we
are
going
to
move
on
at
this
point
and
we're
going
to
take
the
agenda
a
little
bit
out
of
order.
I'm
really
excited
to
hear
from
you,
ms
parker,
and
so
I
hope
that
you
will
hang
on.
A
While
we
move
to
our
prison
industries
presentation,
we
have
some
scheduling
priorities
that
that
dictate
that
we
call
we
move
to
agenda
item
number
six
at
this
point:
we're
going
to
start
with
our
fiscal
analyst
to
help
us
give
some
context
to
why
we're
talking
about
this.
What
we're
talking
about
and
then
we
will
move
to
sorry,
silver
state
industries.
I
Are
you
ready
all
right
good
morning
cherish?
I
will
vice
chair
newan
and
members
of
the
committee.
I'm
james
malone
senior
program
analyst
with
the
legislative
council
bureau
fiscal
division.
I
also
serve
as
secondary
staff
to
this
committee
and
will
be
providing
the
presentation
for
agenda
item
6a
with
me
today.
Virtually
brody
lizer
chief
principal
deputy
fiscal
analyst
for
the
assembly,
who
has
previously
staffed
the
committee
on
industrial
relations
or
industrial
programs
and
will
be
available
to
assist
with
any
questions
the
committee
may
have.
I
As
a
background,
the
committee
on
industrial
programs
was
created
in
2001
through
assembly
bill
4
of
the
2001
legislative
session.
Duties
prescribed
and
statutes
revolved
around
industrial
programs
in
the
state,
industrial
programs
being
the
employment
of
inmate
labor,
with
the
intent
to
provide
offenders
with
skills
necessary
to
re
to
successfully
re-enter
society.
I
So
this
slide
here
details
the
duties
outlined
in
statute
that
transferred.
I
would
know
that
the
duties
listed
on
this
slide
are
on
an
as
needed
basis,
except
for
the
five-year
report
that
is
due
from
the
corrections
director
every
five
years
and
the
next
due
date
being
january.
1St
2024
as
needed.
The
agency
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
corrections
will
need
to
work
with
the
interim
judiciary
committee
to
place
items
on
the
agenda
that
are
statutorily
required.
I
I
There
are
two
reports
that
are
required
from
the
director
of
corrections,
one
concerning
the
potential
impacts
of
any
new
program
for
the
employment
of
offenders
and
private
employers
and
labor
in
the
state
and
the
second
being
the
five.
The
five-year
report
previously
mentioned
regarding
contracts
for
the
employment
of
offenders,
which
is
due
january
first,
twenty
twenty
four.
I
The
corrections
director
must
present
any
recommendations.
The
committee
wishes
to
the
board
state
of
prison
commissioners
provide
explanations
to
the
committee
when
the
state-sponsored
industrial
program
endures
a
net
loss
in
two
consecutive
years
and
performs
certain
duties
such
as
recommend
three
persons
to
the
corrections
director
for
appointment
as
deputy
director
of
prison
industries.
I
I
I
And
then,
finally,
on
this
slide
here,
this
is
a
report
that
will
be
required
of
the
the
interim
judiciary
committee
to
submit
to
the
interim
finance
committee
on
a
semi-annual
basis.
The
next
report
here
will
be
due
july
1st
and
it
is
on
the
status
of
current
and
proposed
industrial
programs
for
correctional
facilities.
A
E
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
see
us
today
and
like
to
present
what
we
offer
in
prison
industries
and
what
the
program
is
about.
This
is
a
new
committee
for
me
for
years,
I've
reported
to
the
community
industrial
program.
So
if
there's
any
questions
as
we
go
through
police,
I'm
happy
to
answer
it
today.
I
have
with
me
is
my
marketing
coordinator,
terry
vance.
E
E
Silver
state
industries
under
nrs209.4612
every
program
for
the
employment
of
offenders
established
by
the
director,
must
employ
the
maximum
number
of
offenders
as
possible
and,
as
you
can
see,
I'm
using
the
word
offenders
we're
trying
to
move
away
from
the
word
inmates
we're
trying
to
change
that
to
offenders
in
the
statute.
It
does
say
offenders
in
there
under
nrs209
for
the
director
for
department
of
corrections.
L
E
Operations
for
silver
state
we
are
going
to
the
name,
silver
state
industries
or
prison
industries,
so
silver
state
industry
says
operations
at
northern
nevada,
correctional
center
southern
desert,
correctional
center
lovelock
correctional
center
and
high
desert
state
prison.
The
shops
mimic
the
structure
of
the
outside
world
to
include
print
shops.
E
Prison
industries
was
tasked
working
with
emergency
management
through
the
governor's
office,
also
into
manufacturing
hand,
sanitizer,
ppe,
equipment
and
stuff,
and
we
were
very
successful
and
pleased
that
we
could
help
the
state
during
the
pandemic,
and
we
continue
to
do
that.
Still
with
ppe,
we
have
partnerships
with
industries,
we
have
card
sorting,
hanger,
sorting,
sewing
collections,
envy
organics,
who
is
also
full
circle
which
they
manufacture,
composting
at
green
waste
and
they're
a
green
company.
E
We
also
have
the
blm
pro
blm
horse
program,
which
I
just
mentioned
in
our
program
where
we
have
approximately
1500
wild
horses
over
there
as
we
speak
and
we're
permitted
up
to
2
thousand.
E
We,
the
tag
plant,
falls
under
prison
industries,
but
department
of
motor
vehicles
pretty
much
handles
that
all
of
their
own.
They
administer
everything
they
just
report
to
me,
the
number
of
offenders
they
have
hours
they
work
and
I
just
kind
of
go
into
an
inspection
of
the
operations
to
ensure
that
they're
operating
in
a
safe
manner.
E
We
also
have
ericsson
framing
who
has
been
shut
down
for
the
last
two
years.
Due
to
covet.
We
are
going
to
be
back
into
operation.
Starting
monday,
the
11th
erickson
framing
was
brought
in
through
the
nevada
builders
association
through
northern
nevada
working.
This
operation
was
started
down
in
arizona
corrections,
so
this
operation
came
up.
They
work
off
of
par
boulevard,
they
manufacture
wooden
house
trusses.
At
this
point,
we
are
sending
out
seven
offenders
earning
minimum
wage
out
there,
one
officer
and
we're
boosted
up
to
12
offenders.
In
a
few
more
weeks.
E
E
If
they
do
not
have
it,
we
work
with
them.
The
supervisors
work
with
the
offenders
to
help
them
in
obtaining
that,
and
we
will
give
them
part-time
work
as
long
as
they
focus
in
getting
their
high
school
diploma.
If
they
do
not
accomplish
that,
then
they
are
removed
from
the
program,
but
we
want
to
give
them
that
opportunity.
E
They
cannot
have
any
major
disciplinary
events
in
one
year
or
generals
in
six
months.
They
have
a
lifting
requirement
of
50
pounds.
They
must
work
90
days
in
the
yard,
labor
or
culinary
they
must
clear.
Classification
committee
classification
committee
comprises
of
the
warden
associate
warden
and
a
caseworker
life
sentences
are
not
disqualified,
working
in
prison
industries.
We
look
at
it
a
case-by-case
basis
and
we
do
not
disqualify
them.
E
E
E
E
Pi
programs
place
incarcerate
individuals
in
a
realistic
work,
environment,
pay
them
the
prevailing
wage
and
then
help
them
acquire
marketable
skills
to
increase
the
potential
for
meaningful
employment.
Upon
release
offenders
taken
part
of
the
pi
program
paid
in
the
10
percentile
of
the
prevailing
wage
for
the
standard,
occupational
classification
as
determined
by
nevada,
department
of
employment,
training
and
rehabilitation,
and
we
put
a
request
in
every
year
around
december
or
january.
That
report
has
come
back
to
us
through
the
pi
program.
We
must
enact
and
put
that
new
pi
wage.
E
We
want
to
ensure
that
we
are
current
with
the
pi
wages,
because
we
get
audited
every
other
year
through
the
national
correctional
industries
association
with
a
grant
through
the
bj
and
doj,
and
they
come
out
ensure
that
we
can
maintain
our
certification
based
on
wages.
They
interview
the
offenders.
E
They
do
a
one-on-one
to
ensure
that
they're
not
being
forced
to
work.
They
also
ask
them
how
they're
working
talk
about
the
wages
and
work
conditions,
and
that
report
is
compiled,
sent
back
with
any
kind
of
either
a
negative
report
where
we
have
to
take
corrective
action.
They
could
take
our
certification
away
and
not
be
able
to
participate
in
the
pi
program.
Many
industries
through
the
state
are
through
the
nationally,
have
a
pi
program.
E
As
you
can
see
in
our
powerpoint.
We
show
this
and
if
you
want
to
go
through,
but
it
shows
a
certification
program
for
a
mattress
factory,
garment
factory,
metal,
fabrication,
print
and
bindery
in
furniture,
and
it
shows
there
the
total
employment
hourly
wage
mean
hourly
wage
10,
percentile,
20,
50
and
75
and
90..
We
get
this
report
back
from
dieter
and
we're
hoping
to
get
one
here
pretty
soon.
E
All
right,
what
do
the
fenders
are,
in
addition
to
a
wage,
a
lot
of
defenders
work
in
the
percentage
program
we
offer
american
welding
society,
which
is
a
very
successful
program
through
working
in
partnership.
I
brought
that
program
in
2002
working
with
western
nevada
college.
We
have
the
instructor
that
comes
in
when
the
class
starts.
He
comes
in
once
a
week.
He
trains
he
goes
through
the
whole
curriculum.
With
with
the
offenders.
We
also
have
a
student
aid,
which
is
one
of
the
offenders
that
helps
assist
in
teaching
this
class.
E
Every
offender
that
goes
through
there
gets
different
levels
of
certification
in
welding,
certifications
from
full
pen
vertical
horizontal
majority
of
the
the
welders
offenders
in
this
program
are
very
successful.
I
pair
them
up
with
these
subcontractors
that
come
to
us
when
we
do
their
cad
and
quote
their
jobs
up
prior
to
release
about
30
days
prior
to
release
they
I
I
have
them,
communicate
with
the
contractors
out
there
and
they'll
talk,
and
then
they
bring
them
on.
E
So
in
this
program
also
on
the
offenders
we
have
screen
printing,
we
have
a
screen
printing
operation,
osha
forklifts
and
then
from
there
on.
We
get
marketable
skills,
sense
of
worth
ability
to
support
selves
and
family
work
ethic,
develop
stronger
interpersonal
skills,
productive
use
of
time
which
reduces
violence
on
the
general
population
yard
and
understanding
the
value
of
money.
E
Highlights
of
prison
industries,
we've
had
1.7
million
dollar
staff
salaries,
annually,
638
000
hours
for
fender
labor
fiscal
year,
2021.
560
offenders
employed
each
month,
47
million
in
total
revenues,
individual
individualized
job
placement
with
local
employees
and
industries.
E
With
that
part,
there
I'm
pairing
up
with
local
manufacturers,
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
northern
nevada
development
authority
and
the
manufacturers
association
working
with
them
and
with
the
lack
of
skilled
labor
force
out
there
on
the
market.
Right
now,
I've
been
approached
by
several
companies
into
trying
to
get
them
a
offender
workforce
and
very
actively.
Right
now,
like
I
said,
erickson
framing,
is
what
is
one
of
them.
The
other
one
I'm
working
with
also
is
american
linden
right
here
on
fairview
recently
approached
me:
he
can't
get
anybody
to
work
in
there.
E
Just
they
come
in
and
then
they're
gone,
so
we're
trying
to
work
something
out
put
a
contract
together
to
have
offenders
brought
down
to
them
and
work
in
this
operation
challenges
this
got
stopped,
but
we
were
paying
close
to
two
million
dollars
in
cost.
Statewide
cost
allocation
contribute
contributions.
E
1.55
million
was
claimed
by
the
general
fund
public
perception,
which
I'm
always
trying
to
change
that
working
in
the
community,
with
businesses
and
the
private
sector
to
ensure
that
this
is
a
professional
shop.
This
is
not
two
saw
horses
and
a
handsaw
as
some
people
perceive
or
what
they
see
in
a
movie.
What
you
see
in
the
movie
is
not
accurate,
operating
a
business
with
state
restrictions,
guidelines
and
lengthy
budget
processes
running
a
business
to
meet
in
this
run.
This
prison
industry's
program
is
like
running
a
business
with
handcuffs
on.
E
We
have
protocols,
procedures
that
we
must
adhere
to
as
far
as
purchasing
going
through
the
legislature
to
and
the
board
of
prison
commissioners
board
of
examiners.
We
have
a
long
detail
of
approvals
that
we
must
go
through
and
that
I'm
good
with
that.
It's
great
because
we're
transparent,
we
show
what
we're
doing
what
we're
spending
our
moneys
on
and
what
we're
doing
with
these
offenders
to
help
them
improve
their
behavior.
Their
behavior
become
professionals.
E
Equipment
so
nrs
209.192
is
a
fun
for
you,
construction
of
facilities
for
prison
industries
to
relocate,
expand.
We
can
use
this
fund
to
relocate,
expand,
upgrade
or
modify
an
existing
industry
in
the
industrial
program
to
enhance
or
improve
operations
or
security,
or
to
provide
additional
employment
of
training
of
offenders
to
purchase
or
release
equipment
to
be
used
for
the
training
of
offenders
or
the
operations
of
prison
industries
with
this
statute
here
that
was
changed
thanks
to
great
thanks
to
former
senator
parks
who
was
on
the
committee,
this
statute
was
changed
a
few
years
back.
E
The
reason
for
that
that
deduction
is
that
that
that
fund
is
collected-
and
this
is
to
reinvest
into
the
program
to
help
these
defenders
and
get
real
equipment.
Real-Time
experience,
what
we're
looking
at
now
is
purchasing
a
cnc
plasma
cutter
for
the
metal
shop,
reduces
labor
costs
working
with
these
contractors.
E
It
does
not
reduce
the
workforce,
however,
it
reduces
labor,
but
a
lot
of
these
offenders
can
take
time.
They'll
go
over
there
and
train
them
on
how
to
do
this,
and
then
they
get
real-time
experience
as
they
get
out
upon
release
and
they
get
out
there
they're
not
standing
there.
Looking
at
a
machine
going.
What
is
that
they're
looking
to
go?
Wow
I've
operated
that
in
prison
industries,
I've
got
experience
and
they
can
go
up
there,
hit
the
buttons
and
get
going
program.
E
It
same
thing
with
our
wood
shop,
we're
looking
at
getting
a
cnc
machine
to
cut
our
panels
and
stuff
that
does
not
reduce
the
workforce.
We
still
have
to
get
the
product
the
furniture
assembled,
but
we
want
to
get
all
these
offenders
to
get
experience
in
learning
to
operate
real
time,
as
I've
mentioned
in
the
past
with
the
other
with
committee,
industrial
programs.
E
I
got
this
change
because
I
kept
going
up
and
there's
like
you
have
to
be
profitable.
You
have
to
be
profitable,
get
these
guys
more
skills.
Well,
I
cannot
compete
with
the
same
screwdriver
that
we
bought
20
years
ago.
Times
have
changed,
we
got
to
upgrade
and
we
have
to
get
with
real
time
and
mimic
the
private
sector.
E
And
that's
all
I
have
at
this
point,
I'm
open
for
any
questions
from
the
committee
before
I
turn
it
over
and
we
have
four
offenders
former
offenders
here
that
are
happy
to
testify
on
their
experiences
to
the
committee.
But
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
I
apologize
I
forgot
to
mention.
I
have
jeffrey
doucette
down
in
the
south,
who
is
my
chief
financial
officer,
sorry
jeff.
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much.
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
some
questions
first
and
then
allow
the
alumni
to
come
up
and
speak,
and
we
won't
pepper
you
with
any
questions
unless
anybody
has
something
nice
to
say,
but
for
you
guys
in
the
hot
seat.
I
am
sure
that
my
committee
members
have
questions,
so
I
will
start
with
those
by
zoom.
A
South,
oh,
maybe
I'm
wrong,
maybe
I'm
the
only
one
who
has
questions,
because
I
I
did
have
a
chance
to
speak
with
you,
mr
kwenga,
on
the
phone.
I
really
enjoyed
that.
I'm
glad
that
we
got
the
chance
to
do
that
and
we
had
started
a
discussion
about
the
wages
that
people
are
paid
when
they
are
working
at
silver
state
industries.
And
I
was
hoping
you
could
kind
of
overview
for
the
committee
what
those
wages
are
and
how
they're
set.
E
For
the
record
bill
coin-
deputy
director
of
doc,
so
the
wages
we
have
I've
been
there
for
27
years
running
this
program,
and
what
I
try
to
implement
is
it's
like
it's
a
stepping
stone,
so
we
have
traditional
wages
and
then
we
have
the
pi
program.
So
what
we
do
is
ten
is
when
we
get
offenders
that
are
classified
so
we
we
do.
We
mock
the
private
sector,
we
put
a
job
announcement
out
to
the
yard.
They
get
an
application,
they
apply
for
it.
They
come
in
for
an
interview.
E
They
sit
in
front
of
my
staff
and
sometimes
myself
look
at
what
their
skills
are,
what
they
want
to
do
what
they
want
to
learn.
If
they
are
selected,
then
their
name
goes
up.
A
list
goes
up
to
the
classification
committee
within
that
institution,
which
comprises
of
the
ward
associate
warden
in
the
caseworker.
They
review
their
files,
ensure
that
they
have
no
disciplinaries
attempted
escapes
assault
and
staff
and
behavior,
and
all
that
once
that
done
they
come
in.
So
what
we
generally
do
is
depending
on
their
experience.
E
E
Once
we
review
and
look
at
their
work
ethic
as
the
supervisor
does
an
evaluation
on
a
quarterly
basis
that
offenders
brought
in
sat
down
with
with
the
supervisor
and
say:
where
do
you
want
to
go?
What
skills
do
you
want
to
learn
in
our
operations?
We
have
job
descriptions
just
like
this.
On
the
private
sector,
I
work
close
with
western
nevada
college,
we're
trying
to
get
them
a
gateway
certificate
because
of
of
the
procedures
and
practices
that
we
have.
E
We
have
a
carpenter,
one
carpenter,
two
and
carpenter
three
same
as
welder
one,
two
and
three,
a
poster
screen
printer
and
so
on.
So
we
bring
them
in,
but
those
wages
vary
from
different
positions
and
their
skill
level.
So
traditional
wages
can
go
anywhere
from
a
dollar
to
five
dollars
an
hour
as
they
progress
and
they
want
to
get
into
a
pi
program
job.
A
lot
of
our
pie.
Program,
jobs,
for
example,
are
welders
and
welders
can
make
up
to
fourteen
dollars
an
hour,
the
clerks,
any
clerk
admin
clerks
forklift
operator.
E
A
E
For
the
record
bill,
cuenga
deputy
director
under
the
pi
program
and
even
the
statute,
we
follow
the
pipe
program
the
director
has
pi
gives
us
a
range
from
five
percent
to
not
exceeding
20
25
percent.
So
every
offender
that
works
in
prison
industries
program.
There
is
a
deduction,
five
percent
victims
crimes
fund,
which
is
mandatory,
five
percent
capital
improvement
fund
and
then
24
and
a
half
percent
room
and
board,
and
that
room
aboard
goes
back
to
the
department
general
fund
that
helps
offset
the
cost
of
incarceration.
E
I
have
nothing,
I
don't
touch
those
funds,
I
don't
even
touch
the
victim's
crime
that
goes
down
to
pay
victims,
but
the
capital
improvement
fund
is
the
only
one
that
I
recognize
now
with
that
said,
there's
some
changes
with
marsy's
law.
We
have
administrative
regulation,
258,
which
they're
still
looking
at
there's
an
addendum
to
go
to
that
administrative
regulation
to
go
in
front
of
the
board
of
prison
commissioners
which
they're
still
trying
to
figure
out
the
percentage
it
was
90
percent.
They
brought
it
down.
I
have
nothing
to
do
with
that.
E
E
A
Issue
and
with
the
resolution
258
or
the
order
258.,
but
that
does
answer
my
question
about
the
the
wages
are:
not
you
know,
that's
not
the
total
amount
that
they
get,
or
that
is
more
than
the
total
amount
that
they
ultimately
see
on
their
books,
and
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
something
that
you
were
talking
about
earlier
regarding
the
capital
improvements,
and
you
were
specifically
talking
about
purchasing
some
new
equipment
for
the
welding.
A
I
was
just
I
was
really
interested.
You
said
that
that
these
this
new
equipment
would
reduce
the
cost
of
labor,
but
would
not
reduce
the
labor
force.
Am
I
saying
that
right?
Yes,.
E
Ma'am,
that
is
correct.
This
is
deputy,
it
does
reduce,
doesn't
it
reduces
the
labor
but
doesn't
reduce
and
helps
with
the
cost,
but
doesn't
reduce
the
offenders
that
are
going
to
be
working
in
the
program?
If
that
answers
your
question.
E
E
E
Okay,
bill
clink.
So
by
buying
this
equipment
it
enhances
the
program
so
that
we
can
mimic
the
private
sector
as
much
as
we
can.
So
they
gain
that
skill
certification.
So
when
they
get
out,
they
have
marketable
skills.
They
have
a
better
chance
of
employment.
With
that
experience
that
they
bring.
This
equipment
is
to
help
to
educate
and
train
our
offender
population
in
the
prison
in
this
program
to
gain
that
marketable
skill
and
experience
in
new
equipment,
because
we've
never
had
cnc
equipment
before
got.
I
E
I'm
like,
why
aren't
we
doing
this?
I
mean
I'm
partnering
with
western
nevada
college.
They
have
cnc
simulators.
One
of
the
things
I'll
tell
you
too,
is
I'm
working
closely
with
northern
nevada
rural
authority
housing
authority.
We've
had
a
meeting,
we've
had
a
meeting
with
western
nevada
college
in
using
their
internships.
As
far
as
development,
I'm
going
to
boise
idaho
next
week
to
a
factory,
that's
building,
modular,
affordable
housing
and
we're
trying
to
partner
up,
because
we
can't
get
carpenters
and
electricians
out
in
these
rural
communities.
E
It
costs
a
lot
in
talking
with
executive
director
bill
brewer
we're
working
together
to
see.
Can
we
manufacture
those
in
prison
industries
made
in
nevada
college
comes
in.
We
work
with
them
in
prison
industries
to
get
in
plumbing
certifications.
The
frames
are
steel.
We
got
welding
certified
already,
then
they
also
get
electrical
certifications
and
as
they
get
those
and
they
become
and
they
get
released,
they
have
that
skill.
E
We
can
try
to
partner
them
with
these
companies
out
there
working
with
mr
aaron
west,
who
is
the
nevada
builders
association
work
closely
with
him
trying
to
get
these
guys
skills?
What
we're
looking
at
with
nevada
builders
association
is
that
pool
of
workers
in
the
construction
trade
is
dying.
It's
just
depleting
so
by
trying
to
get
these
guys
in
prison
industries
to
get
it.
That
would
be
his
pull
to
gain,
build
that
pool
up
in
the
private
sector.
E
A
E
For
the
record
bill
coin,
yes
and
we
do
a
contract,
so
we
charge
the
labor
rate
for
each
offender
plus
administrative
fee
for
each
offender
for
each
labor
our
work
and
then
also
the
officer's
wages
because
being
in
minimum
custody,
they
must
be
checked
once
an
hour
as
opposed
to
a
community
trustee
which
our
pool
of
community
trustees
is
very
small
in
a
percentage
with
a
b
tooth.
I
think
it's
ab2
36
they're,
getting
more
credits.
A
lot
offenders
are
going
home,
becoming
fastly
real,
fast
and
eligible
to
the
transitional
housing.
E
So
that
poll
is
shortening
down
so
we're
trying
to
create
a
new
high
minimum,
but
these
companies
will
pay
either
minimum
wage.
Whichever
is
high
state
or
federal,
they
pay
prison
industries,
prison
industries.
We
pay
the
offenders
that
money
comes
to
us,
we
pay
them,
so
they
don't
get
a
direct
check
from
erickson
framing
or
any
other
company
out
there.
E
For
the
record
bill
queen,
so
when
we
like
erickson
framing
what
we
had
to
do
under
nrs209.461,
I
must
do
an
impact
analysis
when
I
meet
so
I
go
to
the
committee.
I
have
this
company
that
wants
to
do
business
with
us.
This
is
what
they
want
to
do.
This
is
the
skills
they're
going
to
learn.
The
committee
gives
me
the
authority
says
yes
proceed.
I
do
an
impact
analysis
with
the
economic
development
dieter
and
also
the
labor
unions.
E
I
sent
the
letter
out
and
we
get
with
dieter
and
they
find
out
what
the
soc
code
they
do
a
whole
report
as
to
the
tax
revenue,
the
wages,
the
meat,
the
age.
All
that
information
is
brought
also
to
search
the
state
to
ensure
that
we're
not
putting
the
private
sector
out
of
business
or
the
citizens
in
the
community
out
of
work
displacing
our
mission
in
prison
industries
is
not
to
displace
the
private
sector.
We
work
with
them.
They
come
to
us
all
the
time
with
outsourcing.
E
But
with
that
said,
once
that's
put
together,
we
negotiate
a
price
and
all
the
costs.
Then
it
goes
back
to
the
committee
after
the
committee
says.
Yes,
I
have
to
go
in
front
of
the
board
of
prison
commissioners.
They
review
it
when
they
it's
the
same
committee,
then
I
have
to
go
in
front
that
goes
to
gfo.
E
For
the
record,
we
are
mandated
to
generate
revenue
for
our
program.
We
are
self-sustaining,
we
get
no
general
fund
dollars,
we
are
self-sufficient.
If
we
don't
generate
revenue,
I
don't
we
don't
exist
and
I
can-
and
I
always
cringe-
and
I'm
always
on
my
staff.
We
must
generate
revenue,
provide
customer
service,
quality
products,
skills
training,
but
it's
not
always
about
the
dollar.
E
My
the
importance
to
me
is
to
get
these
offenders
to
change
their
behavior
change,
their
mindset,
not
just
about
making
money
but
willing
to
change
that
behavior,
because
when
they
are
out
there,
they
made
a
bad
decision
they're
in
there
here.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
them
to
change
their
behavior,
gain
a
skill
get
back
outside
and
assist
them
in
trying
to
gain
employment
and
also
maintain
employment
and
not
just
minimum
wage,
a
living
wage
when
they
get
out.
A
A
Yeah,
I
think
it
would
be
an
interesting
project
going
forward
and
I
I
have
one
more
question
going
back
to
something
that
you
said
about
the
hiring
process
for
people
who
are
already
incarcerated
and
you
know
checking
their
violations
checking
their
history.
Does
somebody
have
to
have
a
perfectly
clean
record
in
the
department
of
corrections
in
order
to
be
able
to
work
in
silver,
state
industries.
E
For
the
record
bill
quang,
no,
it
all
depends
on
the
time
frame
depending
like
I
said,
I
go
back
it's
a
year
of
no
violation.
Six
months
with
no
majors,
that's
reviewed,
just
like
life
sentences
they're
in
there
we
look
at
their
file
escapes
or
attempted
escape.
I
had
an
offender
years
ago
that
we
had
an
escape
in
2005..
E
The
interim
director
came
out
and
said
no
lifers
in
prison
industries
that
wasn't
really
good.
It's
a
great
opportunity
for
them.
So
what
I
managed
to
negotiate
is
that
we
need
to
look
at
their
case
file
individually.
This
offender
walked
away
from
santa
rita
camp
jailed
down
in
california
20
years
ago.
E
The
time's
gone.
That's
the
past
he's
changed
his
behavior.
He
was
my
admin
clerk
in
there
and
he
was
doing
good,
so
I
got
to
change
it,
but
we
try
to
only
employ
no
more
than
10
percent
of
lifers,
because
I
also
get
asked
by
the
community
if
you're
preparing
these
offenders
to
come
out.
Why
are
you
employing
lifers
who
are
navigating
out?
My
answer
to
that?
Is
laws
change
I've
seen
lifers
in
there
said
I'm
never
getting
out.
Next
thing
you
know:
laws
change,
they're
going
home,
so
we
can't
just
rule
them
out.
A
That
makes
sense.
Thank
you
with
that.
Are
there
other
questions
from
okay?
I'm
not
seeing
any
questions.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation.
Thank
you
for
answering
all
of
my
many
questions
and
at
this
point
I
understand
that
you
have
some
people
here
to
to
speak
to
us
about
their
experience,
going
working
in
silver
state
industries
and
where
they
are
now
so
I'll
invite
them
up.
You
guys
can
come
up
together
or
one
by
one,
whatever
you'd
like
madam.
E
Chair
deputy
director
wang
I've
got
mr
jane,
who
has
an
appointment
with
dmv,
so
I
like
to
get
him
out
here,
so
he
doesn't
miss
appointment,
great.
K
Hello,
my
name
is
ronald
jane.
Do
I
say
for
the
record.
K
Good
morning,
ronald
jane
for
the
record,
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
work
under
justin
pope
here
for
silver
state
industries.
For
six
years
I
was
interviewed
and
accepted
the
job
as
the
clerk
of
the
prison
farm,
and
it
was
a
life-changing
experience
for
me.
It
was,
it
was
very
pivotal
moment
I
was
incarcerated
for
a
total
of
10
years.
K
K
The
responsibilities
of
that
job
alone
were
scary.
At
first,
I
couldn't
believe
as
an
offender
that
I
was
able
to
work
closely
with
staff
on
the
budget
and
day-to-day
purchasing,
and
I
mean
you
know
a
million
dollars
in
hay
over
a
year's
span,
and
you
know
working
on
these
big
contracts
and
I
just
really
took
into
it,
and
it
gave
my
life
so
much
meaning
in
there.
It
gave
me
every
morning
when
I
woke
up.
K
Well,
I
saw
a
need
there
and
me
and
a
fellow
offender
had
dove
in
and
we
were
given
the
you
know,
the
assistance
and
the
ability
from
our
bosses
to
develop
a
computer
system,
and
that's
where
I
discovered
that
I'm
passionate
about
it
and
today
I'm
an
I.t
professional
too,
with
the
state
of
nevada
and
that
that
stems
from
that
I
mean
had
my
bosses
not
been
like.
You
have
an
interest
and
we
have
this
need.
Let's
make
it
happen
and
encouraged
me
to
be
able
to
to
learn
these
these
it
skills.
K
I
would
not
have
my
job
today
and
and
be
as
successful
as
I
am
I'm
extremely
proud
of
that
the
staff
was
just
nothing
but
professional
and-
and
I
watched
I
watched
sometimes
our
our
payroll
numbers
would
creep
up
in
the
inmate
payrolls,
because
we
had
retained
guys
that
you
know
had
lengthy
sentences
because
that's
kind
of
in
the
key
positions
around
the
farm.
We
wanted
that,
so
they
could
train
new
guys
coming
in
and
guys
with
shorter
shorter
terms.
K
But
over
time
we
had
kind
of
retained.
More
and
more
of
these
longer
sentences
and
the
payroll
budgets
were
right
there
and
I
saw
us
have
to
cut
back
a
little
bit
and
those
jobs.
Those
key
positions
became
a
little
more
diversified,
which
was
good
for
the
guys
in
those
key
positions,
but
it
made
me
realize
that
this
is
a
real
world
scenario
with
with
budget,
and
you
know
how
many
inmates
can
can
have
a
job.
K
I
would
have
guys
inside
the
institution
come
to
me
and
say:
can
you
get
me
a
ranch
job,
and
I
would
say
you
know
not
right
now,
because
we
are,
we
are
maxed
out,
but
I'll
tell
you
when
you,
when
you
give
a
guy
incarcerated
these
kind
of
responsibilities
like
animals
that
depend
on
them.
It
really
does.
K
It
really
does
change
the
way
they
think
and
act,
and
and
it's
it's
so
much
more
than
than
just
the
money
that
I
was
making
at
the
farm
and
a
lot
of
guys
would
say
that
for
me,
I
started
at
60
cents
an
hour
and
I
threw
the
evaluation
process
every
three
months
or
so
I'd.
I
would
come
in
and
sit
with
my
boss
or
justin
here,
and
we
would
evaluate
the
performance
over
the
past
90
days
60
to
90
days,
and
you
know
a
raise
would
be
implemented.
K
If,
if
you
know
all
the
standards
were
met
and
everything
like
that-
and
I
made
my
way
up
to
3.65
cents-
an
hour
now
out
here,
of
course
that
doesn't
sound
like
much,
but
in
there
I
was
able
to
live.
Like
a
king,
I
was
able
to
send
money
home
to
secure
my
future
and
after
that,
six
years
of
working
there
I
was
released
and
I
had
fifteen
thousand
dollars
in
my
bank
account.
K
So
I
was
able
to
get
myself
an
apartment
and
get
on
the
road,
and
you
know
just
everything
I
needed
to
get
done.
I
could
get
done.
I
wasn't
struggling
getting
out.
I
topped
out
yeah
that
3.65
cents
an
hour
is
great
and
inside
the
institution
you
are
offered.
You
know
certain
items
that
you
can
purchase.
K
Yes,
you
have
the
room
and
board
and
the
industries
fund
and
the
capital
improvement
fund
and
the
the
victims
fund.
But
after
all
that
is
said
and
done
it
still
for
me
was
a
great
wage
inside
there
I
mean
it
took
care
of
me
and
everything
I
needed
so
yeah.
The
experience
was
just
as
good
as
it
could
get,
and
that's
that's
really
all
I
have
to
say
about
it.
A
O
O
C
K
Ronald
j
and
for
the
record,
I
was
initially
incarcerated
in
2007,
and
I
worked
for
the
nevada
division
of
forestry
for
three
years
as
a
wildland
firefighter
and
then
the
prison
farm.
For
six
years
there
was
from
2007
2008
was
one
year
in
county
jail
so
that
that
makes
up
the
full
10
years
and
I'm
sorry
what
was
the
second
question.
O
K
Ron,
james
for
the
record,
I
was
incarcerated
for
to.
K
A
And
thank
you
again
for
joining
us
today
and
for
answering
our
questions
and
sharing
your
story
with
us.
We,
we
really
do
appreciate
it,
and
it's
not
often
we
get
to
speak
to
people
who
are
directly
impacted
by
the
criminal
justice
system
in
the
way
that
you
were,
and
so
we
really
value
that
you're
willing
to
to
be
here
and
to
speak
with
us.
So
thank
you.
K
Hi,
my
name
is
john
nicholas
and
I
went
to
prison
back
in
1990
and
I
am
one
of
the
persons
that
deputy
director
kwenga
alluded
to
of
being
a
lifer
and
being
in
the
prison
industry
program.
I
didn't
get
into
prison
industries
until
after
seven
years
of
being
incarcerated.
K
While
I
was
there,
I
started
out
at
the
bottom
and
worked
my
way
up
and
the
skill
set
that
I
learned.
While
I
was
in
there
I
wouldn't
be
here
today.
If
it
wasn't
for
prison
industries,
I
was
one
of
those
guys
that
didn't
think
he
was
ever
going
to
get
out
and
as
lost
change
as
they
say.
So
I
was
glad
that
I
was
able
to
partake
in
that
program.
I
learned
some
some
skill
set.
That
was
super
valuable
for
me
out
here.
K
I
learned
how
to
budget
I
learned
how
to
do
accounting.
I
learned
accounts
payable,
accounts
receivable.
I
learned
computers
because
when
I
went
in
in
1990
not
everybody
had
a
computer
on
their
desk.
Okay
so,
and
I
picked
up
a
set
of
skill
sets
while
I
was
in
there.
K
I
also
I
started
out
at
a
lower
wage
and
worked
my
way
up
as
well,
but
I
partake
into
that
prison
industry
pi
program
where
I
was
able
to
to
make
money
while
I
was
in
there
and
I
paid
off
a
lot
of
my
restitution
while
I
was
in
there.
So
that
was
very
helpful
when
I
got
out.
K
Obviously
things
had
changed
a
lot
in
the
28
and
a
half
years
that
I
was
incarcerated,
and
so,
when
I
did
get
out,
you
know
I
I
was
able
to
blend
in
and
had
marketable
skills
to
achieve
meaningful
employment
with.
I
currently
work
for
intuit
now
with
the
accountant
professional
team,
and
I
I
build
payrolls
for
accountants.
Okay,
they
they.
They
were
happy
with
the
skill
set
that
I
picked
up.
K
While
I
was
incarcerated
to
be
able
to
that,
I
could
utilize
that
in
their
operation
and
be
able
to
develop
in-
and
I've
been
there
now
for
almost
three
years,
so
I
was
able
to
save
money.
I
walked
out
as
well
with
money
in
my
pocket.
I
had
five
thousand
dollars
to
start.
I
mean
that's,
not
a
lot,
but
it
sure
is
a
lot
more
than
what
they
the
21
dollars.
They
give
you
for
gate
money.
K
You
know
so
and,
like
I
said,
the
the
experience
itself
with
the
computer
experience
that
I
learned
while
I
was
incarcerated
and
through
this
education
in
the
prison
industry
program,
it's
worth
so
much
more
than
what
wages
were.
I
mean
I
lived
high
on
the
hog
in
there
compared
to
everybody
else.
I
mean
because
you
had
a
pay
number
okay
and
it
actually
you
it
stimulates
the
economy
on
the
yard.
People
were
like
what
are
you
talking
about?
K
Well,
you
know
you
got
a
laundry
man,
you
got
a
guy
that
you
know
helps
make
sure
your
laundry
comes
back
to
you
and
stuff,
so
it
did
stimulate
the
entire
economy
on
the
yard
and
we
were
able
to
take
care
of
ourselves
and
send
money
home
for
our
families.
So
you
know,
I
think
that
the
program
like
I
said
I
wouldn't
be
here
today,
if
it
wasn't
for
that
program.
So
thank
you.
A
K
Good
morning
tim
taylor
for
the
record,
I
was
incarcerated
for
13
years
nine
of
those
years.
I
was,
I
got
the
opportunity
to
work
for
prison
industries
actually
under
mr
coenga,
while
he
was
a
supervisor
there
started
out
low
as
a
purchasing
clerk
and
worked
my
way
up
over
the
years,
shipping
custom
quotes
and
drafting
administrative
clerk
custom
carpentry.
K
K
The
opportunities
afforded
to
me
working
for
prison
industry
has
allowed
me
to
put
myself
through
college.
I
not
only
earned
a
degree
in
welding
technology
through
the
prison
program,
but
with
western
nevada
college.
I
also
earned
two
associates
degrees,
one
in
management,
one
in
business
and
as
well
as
all
the
those
years
I
was
able
to
send
money
home
to
upon
release
from
prison
within
a
month
when
I
applied
for
a
job.
A
A
D
K
K
C
K
Up
until
my
release
in
2019.,
I
started
off
as
a
safety
and
hazmat
clerk
and
worked
through
the
inventory
room,
doing
handling
and
supple
all
of
the
supplies
taking
them
in
and
issuing
them
out,
and
I
worked
my
way
to
the
administrative
clerk
position
where
I
was
until
I
was
released.
K
The
prison
industries
and
I
worked
under
also
bill.
Koenga
was
my
supervisor
when,
when
I
started
and
he
worked
his
way
up
through
prison
industries,
a
lot
of
things
happened.
I
watched
a
lot
of
guys
for
myself
included.
It
was
a.
K
It
was
the
job
to
have
on
the
yard.
It
was
something
that
you
desire
to
do,
knowing
that,
if
you
made
it
to
pi
that
you
would
be
able
to
obviously
take
care
of
yourself,
but
also
have
that
responsibility
as
far
as
saving
money
with
the
opportunity
to
leave
at
some
point.
Hopefully,
when
I
was
released,
I
was
released.
K
I
had
about
15
000
saved
up,
which
afforded
me
the
opportunity,
also
to
start
get
a
fresh
start
and
be
able
to
pay
for
transportation
and
housing,
and
all
of
these
things,
the
desire
for
prison
industries
is
huge
in
prison.
There's
a
lot
of
guys
that
have
that
desire
to
do
so,
and
then
they
also
understand
with
that
being
said.
K
K
K
I
manage
a
logistics
company
in
sparks
nevada,
and
I
can
tell
you
a
lot
of
the
things
that
I
learned
as
far
as
working
on
the
computers
and
being
able
to
do
payrolls
and
being
able
to
have
that
confidence
to
speak
with
people,
because
I
do
also
interview
the
guys
for
in
the
ladies
for
positions
here
at
the
logistics
company,
nothing
but
value
there,
and
I
learned
these
things
and
understanding
those
things
from
the
birth
of
it
from
prison
industries.
K
I
think
that
it's
one
of
the
greatest
gifts
we
had
and
we
do
have-
and
it's
a
I
think,
the
importance
of
the
prison
industries
and
the
growth
of
we.
I
watched
a
girl
from
we
had
110
people
employed
at
one
time
and
slowly
went
down
through
changes
in
different
things
that
have
gone
on,
but
to
see
that
at
its
height
and
to
watch
all
of
these
guys
connect.
The
dots
was
something
special
and
that's
all.
I
have.
A
Well,
thank
you
so
much.
We
really.
We
really
do
appreciate
you
being
here
and
all
of
your
hard
work
has
certainly
made
an
impact
on
me
and
I'm
sure
I
speak
for
the
rest
of
my
committee
when
I
say
that,
so
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Is
there
any
anybody
else
from
the
community
want
to
make
any
comments
or
questions
all
right,
then.
I
think
that
brings
us
to
the
conclusion
of
agenda
item
number
six.
A
All
right
and
we
are
going
to
take
a
quick
break
for
lunch.
It's
1208
now
I'm
gonna
suggest
that
we
start
back
up
at
12
30..
I
know
that's
not
quite
half
an
hour.
A
A
All
right,
I
will
call
this
meeting
of
the
interim
judiciary
committee
back
to
order.
I
we
don't
have
to
roll
again.
Do
we
okay
great?
I
think
I
see
everybody
back
and
anybody
who
is
still
filtering
in.
We
will
see
you
soon.
We
are
going
to
go
back
to
our
presentation
on
the
judiciary.
A
Thank
you
to
our
presenters
for
being
accommodating
and
allowing
our
friends
from
silver
state
industries
to
interlope
and
present
early,
so
they
can
get
back
to
their
jobs,
which
we
are
so
happy
to
see
them
succeeding
in,
and
so
now
we
are
going
to
talk
about
the
specialty
court
programs
and
I
will
hand
it
over
to
ms
dinderi.
Are
you
going
to
start
or
whoever's
going
to
start
go
ahead.
S
O
Good
afternoon
sir
scheible
members
of
the
committee,
we
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
highlight
the
great
work
being
done
here
in
our
supposedly
course
throughout
nevada.
My
name
is
james
popovich,
I'm
the
especially
court
statewide
coordinator.
I
work
for
the
supreme
court
aoc
before
we
get
going
with
highlighting
some
of
the
programs
throughout
the
state.
Let's
just
give
it
a
general
general
overview,
so
the
fifth
drug
court
in
the
nation
was
launched
in
las
vegas
in
1992..
O
Since
then,
there
have
been
over
60
different
specialty
courts
open
across
our
great
state.
These
courts
have
included
the
first
filming
drug
court
in
the
nation
created
in
1994
in
reno
nevada,
as
well
as
the
largest
mental
health
court
in
the
country.
At
one
point,
both
these
special
courts
are
still
in
operation
nevada,
especially
courts
have
seen
continual
success
year
to
year
with
the
implementation
of
new
and
innovative
practices
and
procedures.
O
O
The
resolve
of
nevada,
especially
court
team
members
and
participants
alike,
was
tested
more
than
ever.
During
these
past
two
years,
the
specialty
courts
throughout
the
state
responded
to
the
pandemic
by
transitioning
to
working
in
a
remote
and
virtual
capacity.
The
courts
conducted
online
staffings
and
court
hearings.
Court
staff
and
trim
providers
were
able
to
utilize
telehealth
and
video
sessions
to
maintain,
maintain
frequent
contact
with
their
participants.
O
A
hard-working
commitment
by
all
the
judges
and
special
corps
team
members
resulted
in
a
seamless
transition
to
providing
services
for
participants
to
further
illustrate
the
success
of
these
programs.
The
supreme
court
of
nevada,
aoc
partnered,
with
the
nevada
department
of
health
and
human
services
in
2020
to
study
recidivism
rates
of
especially
court
graduates.
O
This
recidivism
study
was
the
first
ever
in
the
30-year
history
of
nevada,
specialty
courts
for
all
of
the
specie
courts.
The
average
recidivism
rate
for
the
2017
successful
graduates
was
25,
so
in
other
words,
75
percent
of
successful
discharges
during
2017
have
not
had
a
conviction
in
nevada
since
their
special
court
participation.
O
O
O
If
I
may,
allow
me
to
briefly
address
existing
challenges
for
especially
courts
and
those
throughout
our
criminal
justice
system
as
a
whole
mental
health
capacity
to
treat
those
in
need,
especially
in
the
rural
areas.
Some
counties
do
not
even
have
one
psychologist
or
psychiatrist.
Telehealth
has
certainly
helped
with
these
gaps
and
services.
However,
there
is
no
substitute
for
in-person
therapy,
especially
with
our
more
vulnerable
populations,
housing,
housing,
housing.
I
know
we've
heard
it.
We've
heard
it
for
some
time
now.
O
It's
difficult,
though,
to
watch
participants
do
so
well
in
the
special
court
programs
only
to
return
to
a
home
and
neighborhood
they
came
from
where
they
were
abusing
illicit
substances
and
or
struggling
to
maintain
their
mental
health
and
the
thing
there
most,
the
participants
actually
are
living
in
those
environments
in
those
homes
as
they're
going
through
the
program.
So
it
is
really
amazing
to
see
the
success
that
they're
able
to
achieve,
while
still
in
those
same
environments,
the
third
third
item.
O
That
is
definitely
a
challenge
again
for
more
of
the
rural
areas
is
transportation,
especially
where
there's
lack
of
access
on
public
transportation,
bus
lines
and
whatnot
and
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
child
care.
We
find
that
the
majority
of
those
with
children
that
miss
their
treatment
sessions
or
drug
testing
is
due
to
a
lack
of
child
care.
O
So,
thank
you.
That's
all
I
have
from
a
statewide
perspective.
We
do
have
four
presenters.
They
are
regional
coordinators.
O
The
order
of
ms
veronica
lopez
he's
a
core
program
manager
for
reno
muni
court,
followed
by
mr
e.j
maldonado
special
courts
coordinator
for
the
western
regional
specialty
courts,
ms
denise
parker
assistant
court
administrator
with
the
h
judicial
district
court
and
ms
julia
dendrea,
specially
court
coordinator
with
the
sixth
judicial
district
court.
Thank
you.
G
G
We
have
our
fresh
start:
therapeutic
court
that
is
presided
by
judge
jean
draculidge,
and
this
is
a
drug
court,
a
dui
drug
court
program.
We
have
our
court
assistant
military
offenders
camo
reno
program.
This
is
our
veterans,
treatment,
court
and
that
is
presided
by
judge
shelly
o'neill,
and
then
we
have
our
co-occurring
disorder
and
our
young
adult
recovery
programs
and
those
are
presided
by
judge,
dorothy
nash
homes
and
then
finally,
we
have
our
community
court
program
and
that
is
presided
by
judge
christopher
hayes,
stevens.
G
So
we
have
our
first
start
therapeutic
program
here,
and
we
have
some
statistics
that
we've
outlined
down
below
for
your
review:
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
each
one
of
these
in
2006,
reno
municorp
received
aoc
fundings
to
implement
this
program
and
in
2021
department,
one
which
is
first
star
therapeutic
program
was
awarded
a
bja
grant
award
to
enhance
the
program,
and
so
we've
been
sustaining
the
program
with
the
aoc
funds.
In
addition
to
the
enhancement
grant
that
grant
will
go
through
2020
three.
I
believe.
G
G
G
Many
struggle
with
high
deductibles
and
co-pays,
thereby
forcing
them
to
make
good
make
choices
between
choosing
treatment,
services
or
serving
their
jail
term
sentences,
because
they
can't
afford
the
treatment
again
as
james
outlined
earlier.
We,
you
know,
we
all
know
we're
facing
a
housing
crisis
and
that's
always
a
difficult
component
of
these
to
assist
these
individuals
with
connect.
You
know
connecting
them
with
support
sobriety,
employment
and
quality
of
life.
G
Also,
a
lot
of
community
case
management
in
our
community
case
management
is
a
major
element
of
engaging
these
participants
and
planning
to
address
his
or
her
individual
barriers
to
recovery
and
assisting
the
participant
to
surmount
these
barriers
and
learn
to
negotiate.
The
community
support
system
on
an
ongoing
basis
is
a
is
just
success
to
their
continual
recovery.
G
Sometimes
you
know
a
lot
of
these
individuals
are
attending
their
treatment
with
some
agencies
and
then
they're
cut
loose
to
figure
out
life
skills
on
their
own.
G
And
finally,
another
one
of
the
barriers
that
we
find
in
our
area
here
in
northern
nevada
is
a
lack
of
inpatient
treatment
and
transitional
housing.
Medicaid
doesn't
pay
for
inpatient
or
transitional
housing.
So
it's
often
having
to
come
out
of
our
program
budget,
which
you
know
inpatient
treatment.
Programs
are
not
cheap,
but
I
know
that
we
have
three
other
individuals
that
we
want
to
get
to
and
present
to
and
we're
short
with
time.
So
I
will
leave
my
questions
to
the
end
of
the
other
presenters.
R
R
R
R
So
we
have
four
different
court
programs
under
these
underneath
the
western
regional
special
courts.
We
have
a
drug
court,
a
dui
diversion
court,
a
mental
health
court
and
a
medication
assisted
treatment
court.
As
you
see
to
the
right.
Those
are
the
budget,
or
at
least
those
are
the
the
funds
that
we
are
allocated,
both
from
fee
funded
and
general
funds.
R
R
Our
drug
court.
Drug
court
program
looks
at
a
treatment-oriented
court
supervised
program
for
gross
misdemeanor
and
felony
diagnosed.
With
the
substance
use
disorder.
We
have
a
four-phase
treatment-driven
system,
one
year
minimum
and
the
average
length
is
14
to
18
months
for
dui
diversion
our
third
third
duis.
As
you
know,
facing
one
to
six
years
in
prison.
Our
programs
offer
the
treatment
solution
they're
from
three
to
five
years.
So,
three
years,
minimum
up
to
five
years,
they
put
people
on
house
arrest
for
up
to
six
months
and
interlock
for
the
entirety
of
the
program.
R
That
program
itself
is
also.
We
say
it's
a
five
phase
generally
when
we
go
to
it's
a
four
phase
and
the
fifth
phase
is
is
when
we
look
at
just
aftercare
just
to
make
sure
everything
is
in
place
prior
to
their
graduation
mental
health
court.
R
We've
been
lucky
enough
to
be
able
to
have
a
mental
health
court
since
2015
through
the
general
fund,
we
were
operating
our
mental
health
services
under
the
umbrella
of
our
drug
court,
so
it
was
really
we're
really
fortunate
and
of
course,
we
thank
the
the
legislative
body
to
for
allowing
us
to
have
such
program
and
funding.
R
So
with
our
with
our
mental
health
court,
we
allow
we're
multi-jurisdictional,
which
means
that
we're
we
have
both
misdemeanor
gross
misdemeanor
as
well
as
felony.
We
look
at
bona
fide
mental
health
diagnoses
such
as
psychotic
disorders,
bipolar,
related
disorders,
depressive
disorders
and
we've
also
looked
at
ptsd
and
some
other
related
disorders
that
have
some
type
of
effect
on
on
their
lives.
R
R
I
I
could
ask
mr
popovich,
but
I
do
believe
we
were
the
first
one
in
the
state
for
this.
We
look
at
those
who
have
a
diagnosed
heroin
use
disorder,
opiate
use
disorder
facing
a
christmas
demeanor,
a
felony.
What
we
do
is
we
still
send
them
through
the
same
treatment
modality
as
far
as
groups
individual
sessions.
But
what
we
do
is
we
include
suboxone
medication
management,
and
there
was
one
time
when
we
were
actually
looking
at
weaning
or
titrating
everybody
off
of
suboxone.
R
So
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
right-
we're
just
better
we've-
been
doing
this
for
20
plus
years,
especially
with
the
especially
courts
that
have
been
in
las
vegas
even
longer
than
us,
we're
just
better
at
what
we
do.
We're
fortunate
enough
to
have
nadcp
best
practices
help
drive
our
programs,
we've
moved
more
towards
a
treatment
driven,
and
it
sounds
kind
of
obvious
like
we
should
have
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time,
but
we
I
I
feel
that
we
were
always
cookie
cutter.
I
felt
like
we
were.
R
Everything
was
on
a
time
basis
and
we
made
sure
that
everybody
stuck
to
those
timelines
and
what
we've
done
with
best
practices
is
focus
more
on
treatment,
individualizing,
everything
and
understanding
that
as
people
move
through
treatment,
then
they
can
start
moving
through
the
program.
And
it's
not
just
a
set
amount
of
time.
R
We're
fortunate
enough
to
have
ccbhc's,
which
is
certified
community
behavioral
health
centers.
They
are
the
all-encompassing
one-stop
shop
under
one
roof
between
community
counseling
center,
new
frontier
and
rural
nevada
counseling.
They
provide
all
of
our
aod
mental
health,
health
care,
you
name
it.
R
R
We
start
we
start
small
with
our
sanctions
and
then
move
through
as
as
they're
needed.
I
I
I
think
some
of
the
big
things
are
when
we
look
at
sanctions.
Best
practices
say
three
to
five
days
incarceration
for
any
type
of
major
violation
and
the
reason
being
is
the
studies
show
that
anything
over
a
week
does
increase
recidivism
and
also
negative
cost
benefits.
R
We're
much
better-
and
I
know
my
colleagues
that
are
both
going
to
speak
to
this,
but
we've
been
better
at
community
resource
mapping.
Networking
stronger
relationships,
we're
able
to
share
a
lot
of
our
resources
throughout
the
state
of
nevada,
so
the
increase
has
been
much
much
more
beneficial
to
all
of
our
programs
but,
of
course,
there's
still
gaps:
judicial
rapport,
enhanced
team
participation,
evolution
of
roles
and
the
buy-ins.
R
Just
to
kind
of
show
you
where
we're
at
you
see
the
new
admissions
that
have
come
through
from
fy18
all
the
way
to
present
notice
on
fy20.
We
did
have
a
reduction
in
new
admissions
due
to
covig,
but
I'd
still
like
to
think
that,
even
even
though
we
did
see
those
reductions,
we
still,
we
still
saw
the
same
type
of
growth
that
we
probably
normally
would
have.
R
If
it
were
a
non-coveted
year,
our
graduates
still
pretty
much
stayed
steady.
We
had
some
reductions
last
fiscal
because
of
that,
but
that
again
comes
into
how
many
people
have
come
into
our
program
in
fy20
terminations.
I
always
like
this
number,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people
feel
that
our
numbers
are
a
little
bit
higher
than
what
they
normally
are
or
what
they
actually
are.
R
People
do
stay
in
our
program
and
are
very
successful
and,
as
you
see
over
the
last
five
fiscal
years-
and
I
know
we're
only
halfway
through
this
one-
the
most
determinations
that
we've
had
is
26,
which
speaks
to
the
participation
level
and
the
want
to
stay
in
the
program
voluntary,
withdraw.
R
We
saw
16
in
fy
20
and
I
think
a
lot
of
it
still
had
to
do
with
the
fact
that
we
were
remote.
There
was
a
lack
of
face
to
face
from
from
the
judge
and
the
participant,
and
it
was
still
kind
of
a
learning
curve
on
what
we
were
trying
to
do
in
a
difficult
situation.
So
I
think
some
of
that
lack
of
face-to-face
contact
didn't
make
an
impact
or
had
an
impact
on
how
many
people
wanted
to
stay
in
the
program.
At
that
time
conducted
a
needs,
assess
a
needs
assessment
survey.
R
R
I
think
one
of
the
big
things
that
I
would
like
to
point
out
is
that
what
we
ask
our
participants
to
do
when
they
come
into
our
program
most
have
been
incarcerated
for
anywhere
from
one
month
to
six
months
as
they're
waiting
through
the
process,
the
criminal
justice
process
and
we're
ready
to
get
them
out
and
start
the
program.
But
we're
asking
them
to
do
so.
Many
different
things.
R
It's
a
tall
order.
I
mean
anywhere
from
treatment.
Iop
is
nine
hours
of
groups
a
week,
testing
four
times
a
week,
individual
sessions.
They
do
targeted
case
management
and
we're
asking
them
to
find
work.
We're
asking
them
to
do
a
lot
of
running
around
as
far
as
following
up
on
referrals
with
other
community
organizations,
and
I
feel
it's
a
tall
order
and
I
feel
like
if,
unless
we
have
certain
things
in
place,
such
as
emergency
and
short-term
rental
assistance,
child
care,
financial
assistance.
S
S
S
S
So
we've
been
very
fortunate
to
go
after
additional
funding
in
the
last
five
years,
which
has
allowed
us
to
start
some
of
our
specialized
programs
and
specialty
courts.
During
2019
we
were
able
to
serve
1979
participants
and
then
in
2021
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
serve
1952
participants
throughout
our
programs.
S
One
of
the
big
changes
that
we
have
seen,
especially
with
the
opiate
epidemic
and
the
grant
funding
that
came
with
that,
was
that
they
added
stimulants
to
those
grant
funds
because,
as
you
can
see,
our
trends
in
our
drug
of
choice
down
here
in
clark
county
for
district
court
methamphetamine
is
the
number
one
drug
of
choice
throughout
some
of
our
programs
with
alcohol
coming.
Second
and
opiates,
also
being
one
of
the
higher
drug
of
choices
or
secondary
drug
of
choices
throughout
our
programs.
S
We
developed
the
reentry
medically
assisted
treatment
court
from
an
additional
state
grant,
then,
from
additional
state
funds,
we
developed
the
gambling
treatment
diversion
court
and
we
developed
the
day
court,
utilizing
administration
fees,
so
those
are
just
some
of
the
things
that
we've
gone
after
and
to
highlight
our
sapta
grant
funds.
We
really
are
proud
of
the
relationship
we
have
built
with
the
community
to
really
address
the
housing
issue,
the
transportation
issue.
We
currently
have
three
contracts
that
we
partner
with
that
provide
on-site
case
management,
transitional
housing
and
residential
inpatient
services.
S
Therefore,
when
we
have
people
that
are
really
struggling,
we're
not
trying
to
require
them
to
go
multiple
places
on
a
bus,
or
you
know
you
get
case
management,
one
place,
you
live
a
different
place
and
you
have
treatment
and
drug
testing.
So
we're
really
trying
to
address
those
barriers
for
our
individuals.
S
Currently,
looking
at
the
cost
savings
to
house
somebody
to
housing
in
me
in
ccdc
is
200
a
day
per
contract.
We
currently
pay
141
dollars
a
day
for
residential
treatment
and
63
dollars
a
day
for
transitional
housing,
and
that
includes,
like
the
case
management,
helping
individuals
get
birth
certificate
identification
all
those
things
that
are
needed
right
now.
The
septa
grant
for
residential
and
transitional
housing
services
saved
ccdc,
three
million
eight
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand
three
hundred
and
thirty
nine
dollars
in
fiscal
year.
21.
S
So
some
of
the
current
program
needs
that
we
still
continue
to
face
is
our
residential
and
transitional
housing.
As
a
as
a
february
18th,
the
situation
has
changed
a
little
bit
2022.
There
were
135
individuals
on
the
waitlist
at
ccdc,
for
residential
treatment
and
or
supportive
transitional
housing.
S
We
would
like
to
look
more
at
recidivism
rates
for
our
specific
programs,
so
we're
continuing
to
seek
funding
for
a
position
to
monitor
new
arrests,
new
convictions
and
new
incarcerations
for
participants,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
we're
really
looking
at
and
focusing
on
is
the
children's
mental
health.
That
is
definitely
something
that
we're
in
need
of
in
southern
nevada.
S
There's
a
need
to
fund
train
and
oversee
and
collect
data
on
the
adolescent
treatment
courts.
We
have
mental
health
court
for
adolescents,
a
dual
status
court,
diversion
court,
a
treatment,
drug
court
and
our
day
court
that
currently,
we
are
not
funding
for
dual
status:
mental
health
courts
and
things
like
that.
S
I
mean
our
number
one
goal
is
to
get
participants
out
into
the
community
into
treatment
and
begin
the
recovery
continue
to
update
our
program
curriculums,
we're
continuing
to
look
at
specialized
treatment
for
populations
and
incorporate
peer
support
and
mentoring
into
more
of
our
programs
to
increase
our
oversight
of
participants
to
continue
to
expand
our
judicial
staff
right
now.
We
currently
are
in
need
of
judicial
staff
to
oversee
some
of
our
other
programs,
like
our
juvenile
programs,
seek
and
to
expand
our
programs,
and
we
want
to
continue
to
monitor
and
evaluate
our
specialty
courts.
S
So,
for
us
you
know,
specialty
works,
that's
definitely
a
passion
for
district
court.
I
think
that
everybody's
really
supports
it,
as
my
teammates
across
nevada
have
mentioned
earlier,
our
communication,
the
support,
our
resources.
We
continue
to
work
together
and
you
know
look
at
different
ways
that
we
can
help
our
participants.
B
B
On
the
first
slide,
I've
listed
the
mission
statement
and
the
vision
for
humboldt
county
specialty
courts,
and
I've
also
listed
the
five
specialty
court
programs
we're
currently
currently
managing.
We
have
an
adult
drug
court,
a
dui
court,
family
treatment,
court,
a
mental
health
corps
and
an
opportunity
court.
We
do
receive
state
funding
for
four
out
of
these
five
programs.
The
only
program
that
is
not
state
funded
at
this
time
is
our
dui
court.
B
B
B
Keeping
this
in
mind,
we
strive
to
address
these
areas
of
need
as
soon
as
possible,
by
linking
participants
to
a
case
manager
to
create
an
individualized
case
plan.
The
case
manager
works
on
providing
habilitative
supports,
while
the
participant
is,
at
the
same
time,
receiving
substance
use
and
mental
health
treatment.
B
As
for
housing,
our
team
has
built
relationships
with
managers
of
a
couple
of
the
weekly
hotels
that
can
offer
that
can
often
find
a
room
to
meet
immediate
housing
needs.
We
later
guide
participants
through
creating
a
budget
to
assist
in
securing
or
maintaining
long-term
safe
housing
with
employment.
We
assist
participants
in
learning
how
to
complete
job
applications,
how
to
create
a
resume,
and
sometimes
even
role
playing
what
a
job
interview
will
look
like
things
as
small
as
reassuring
someone.
B
B
This
next
slide
reflects
data
that
was
collected
from
all
adult
drug
court
participants
that
successfully
completed
the
adult
drug
court
program
between
federal
fiscal
year,
19,
20
and
21..
As
you
can
see,
by
providing
these
habilitative
services
that
we've
spoken
of
that
I
spoke
of
earlier.
We
saw
an
increase
in
the
number
of
participants
with
independent
housing
at
discharge.
B
We
also
see
an
increase
in
full-time
employment.
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
that
disability
category
on
that
middle
chart.
This
is
an
example
of
how
those
case
plans
that
are
created
with
our
case
manager.
Entry
are
very
individualized
being
able
to
mold
and
shape
those
plans
with
each
participant
has
been
very
helpful
because
in
this
instance,
the
case
manager
was
able
to
help
link
a
participant
to
veterans
services
and
help
navigate
the
process
of
applying
for
and,
in
this
case,
securing
disability.
B
To
finish
up,
I'd
like
to
recap
on
the
services
we're
able
to
provide
to
our
participants
as
well
as
areas
for
growth,
we're
able
to
provide
substance,
use
mental
health
treatment
and
parenting
classes
through
a
local
non-profit
that
does
a
fantastic
job.
We've
already
spoken
of
the
case,
management,
housing
and
life
skills
that
help
strengthen
that
engagement
in
those
treatment,
services
and
I've
listed
areas
for
growth
as
well.
B
Transportation
has
been
challenging
for
us
because
we
do
not
have
a
local
bus
system,
our
taxi
service
closed
down
during
covid,
and
we
seem
to
have
maybe
one
uber
or
lyft
driver
every
couple
of
months
in
winnimaca
ej
mentioned
in
his
slides
earlier,
the
need
for
child
care,
our
community
struggles
to
provide
child
care
specifically
for
the
ages
of
two
years
and
under
we
had
a
recent
example
of
this.
Just
in
the
last
week,
we
have
a
woman
early
in
our
programming
that
has
made
tremendous
progress
in
her
goals.
B
In
the
past
couple
of
months,
she's
engaged
in
treatment,
she's
secured
employment.
She
turned
her
hot
water
back
on
in
her
home
and
she's,
been
loaned
a
bicycle
that
she's
using
to
get
to
and
from
treatment
requirements
the
laundromat
and
the
grocery
store.
Last
week
in
an
emergent
situation,
her
children
were
placed
in
her
sole
care.
B
She
had
been
on
three
different
child
care,
wait
lists
for
her
young
children
when
she
called
the
check
on
the
wait
list.
She
learned
the
soonest
opening
was
two
weeks
out.
The
two
other
wait
lists
didn't
have
openings
until
the
fall.
This
participant
contacted
us
frantic
about
the
thought
of
losing
her
job
because
she
didn't
have
any
safe
place
for
her
children
while
she
worked,
but
she
knew
she
wouldn't
be
able
to
support
her
family
without
working.
This
is
a
huge
barrier
in
our
community.
B
Lastly,
as
I
think
many
rural
communities,
we
are
in
need
of
more
treatment,
more
local
treatment
providers.
At
this
time
we
do
not
have
a
psychologist
or
psychiatrist
based
in
wanamaka,
because
of
this
we
heavily
rely
on
telehealth
services.
As
we
know,
this
works
great
for
some,
but
it's
not
always
ideal
for
others.
B
A
Anybody
on
zoom
not
seeing
them
raise
hands
so
we'll
go
down
to
our
colleagues
in
the
south.
Any
questions.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
do
have
a
question
chair.
If
that's
okay,
of
course,
rochelle
win
for
the
record.
Thank
you
guys
all
for
those
presentations-
and
I
know
housing
has
become
a
huge
problem.
I
don't
remember
who
mentioned
something
about
medicaid
and
not
being
able
to
cover
certain
housing
programs
or
was
it
inpatient?
G
This
is
veronica
lopez
support
and
I
believe
it
was
myself
who
mentioned
that
medicaid
does
not
cover
inpatient
treatment
programs
so
a
lot
of
times.
We
are,
we
resort
to
the
program
funds
to
pay
for
those
out
of
pocket
for
those
individuals
that
need
that
those
services
and,
as
I
stated,
a
lot
of
our
participants,
are
on
medicaid,
but
then
a
lot
of
them
who
have
jobs,
don't
make
it
make
too
much
to
be
on
medicaid
and
then
don't
make
enough
to
have
good
quality
insurance.
So
so
that
is
a
problem
in
our
area.
D
Do
any
of
the
those
that
are
on
the
exchange
that
are
signing
up
for,
I
guess
those
medicaid,
so
it's
not
included.
Are
there
other
states
that
include
medicaid
coverage
for
inpatient
treatment,
that
you're
aware
of.
G
Again,
this
is
veronica
lopez
for
the
record.
You
know,
I'm
not.
I
can't
answer
that.
I'm
not
familiar
or
I'm
unclear
as
to
what
other
states
medicaid
pay
for
inpatient,
whether
they
pay
for
inpatient
or
not.
But
you
know
I
can
certainly
look
and
call
other
surrounding
states
around
nevada.
D
D
O
Thank
you
for
the
question
vice
chair
james
popovich,
for
the
record.
No
there's
existing
legislature
to
legislation
to
allow
for
trial
courts
to
launch
their
programs,
legislation
for
veterans
courts,
mental
health
courts,
drug
courts,
so
it
does
exist
and
they
do
not
need
to
come
back
to
the
legislature
to
request
that.
D
Are
those
explicitly
likes
said
what
courts
like?
Let's
say
you
wanted
to
do
an
education
court
or
a
youth
offender
court?
Is
it
broad
enough
authority
that
you're
able
to
do
that.
O
D
C
C
Hi
this
is
assemblywoman
chandra
summers,
armstrong.
There
was
a
mention
earlier
that
in
emergency
situations,
some
of
your
participants
in
these
courts-
you
all
are
able
to
in
many
cases,
find
them
housing
in
daily
weeklies.
C
Do
you
have
an
idea
of
how
long
people
have
to
stay
in
those
before
they're,
given
before
they
find
more
permanent
housing
and
because
I'm
con,
my
my
first
thought.
Maybe
this
is
ignorance
on
my
part
that
you
don't
want
people
in
those
too
long
because
of
maybe
the
the
you
know
the
tendency
to
find
like
persons
that
might
get
back
in
trouble
again
or
that
it
leads
to
instability
and
and
recidivism.
C
So
if
you
can
just
kind
of
sort
of
elaborate,
I
would
that
would
really
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
O
S
S
I
know
that
that
is
used
in
emergency
housing
when
we
just
came
into
the
emergency
of
a
funding
issue
and
had
people
participants
waiting
in
ccdc,
we
partnered
with
social
services,
which
we
are
always
partnered
with
them,
and
we
utilize
that
option.
We
do
it
for
as
short
term
as
per
as
possible,
because
we
really
like
them
to
be
in
the
housing
that
is
centered
around
the
recovery,
all
the
services
that
they
will
need
for
the
recovery
and
have
that
24
hours,
surveillance,
the
24
hour
support
and
that
assistance.
C
C
Are
there
certain
organizations
that
you're
working
with,
maybe
I
should
clarify
this
or
I
need
clarification
when
they
cut
when
they
go
from
the
daily
weekly
that
first
housing
after
they're
released?
C
Are
they
going
into
a
transitional
house
or
a
program
in
that's
specifically
for
them?
Are
you
finding
them
housing
through
the
housing
authority
or
from
organizations
where
do
they
go
after?
They
leave
that
particular
emergency
housing
situation.
S
Denise
parker
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
So
they
go.
We
want
them
to
go
directly
from
clark
county
detention
center
into
the
transitional
housing.
So
we
have
clark
county
detention,
center
coordinate
with
our
three
contracted
housing
providers,
so
they
are
picked
up
transported
directly
into
that
recovery
housing.
We
definitely
we
don't
want
them
on
a
bus
or
anything
else.
We
want
them
to
go
straight
there.
S
Sorry,
denise
parker
for
the
record
so
that
that
procedure
for
us
down
in
in
district
court
happens
more
when
they
are
connected
with
social
services,
then
they
are
provided
a
voucher
to
go
into
the
weekly.
So
we
recently
had
a
wait
list
due
to
funding,
and
so
then
we
had
people
released
into
due
to
the
vouchers.
S
So
some
of
our
providers
agreed
to
take
a
certain
number
of
vouchers
because
there's
a
pay
difference,
there's
service
differences,
but
so
in
working
with
social
services
that
they
went
into
the
weekly
and
then
as
soon
as
we
have
funds
available,
they
go
into
our
transitional
housing.
A
If
not,
I
have
a
couple.
I
was
curious
about
judicial
district
six
and
whether
it
is
similar
to
our
other
smaller
counties
or
are
you
guys
an
outlier
with
your
numerous
specialty
courts.
B
Share
travel:
this
is
julia
denderi
for
the
record.
I
do
believe
that
we,
we
are
fortunate
to
have
a
family
treatment
court
that
I
don't
believe
many
other
small
rural
communities
have
at
this
time,
but
I
know
that
elko
has
quite
a
few
treatment
courts
right
now
as
well.
A
And
I
was
wondering
if
all
of
our
coordinators
could
give
us
a
sense
of
how
many
people
are
in
each
of
these
programs.
I
mean
I've
sat
through
drug
court
calendars
in
multiple
courtrooms
and
in
some
of
the
smaller
jurisdictions
there
are
four
or
five
participants
and
some
of
the
larger
ones.
There
are
more
participants
than
they
can
call
in
the
two
hours
while
I'm
sitting
there.
So
if
you
guys
could
just
give
give
us
a
rough
estimate,
so
we
can
get
a
picture
that
be
great.
G
Hello,
veronica
lopez
here
for
the
record
and
I'm
with
the
reno
municipal
court.
I
can
outline
and
tell
you
that
we
have
in
our
first
star
therapeutic
court,
which
is
our
dui
court.
We
currently
are
have
38
participants
that
are
active
in
the
program
in
our
co-occurring
and
young
adult
recovery
program.
We
currently
have
23
total.
G
In
our
community
court
program,
we
that
one's
kind
of
a
little
different
than
our
other
specialty
treatment
courts.
This
program
is
like
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
hold
this
community
court
program
at
the
downtown
library
every
wednesday
morning,
and
the
idea
behind
community
court
is
to
link
individuals
that
are
in
and
out
of
our
court
system
for
quality
of
life
type
violations,
and
what
we
do
with
these
individuals
is
that
they're
cited
into
community
court
to
link
them
with
immediate
services,
community
resources,
whether
that
is
ids,
birth
certificates,
snap
medicaid.
G
Va
services,
mental
health
services,
substance,
abuse
services,
job
training,
primary
care,
so
we
have
probably
anywhere
from
15
to
22
community
providers
who
volunteer
their
time
and
come
down
to
assist
community
core
to
provide
these
services
for
our
providers.
So,
to
answer
your
question
on
in
community
courts
on
a
monthly
basis,
we
probably
serve
over
200
participants
in
community
court,
and
you
know
some.
The
sentence
could
be
anywhere
from
two
months
to
six
months
depending
and
the
sentence
on
those
cases
are
comply
with
your
appointments.
G
Go
to
your
primary
care,
comply
with
your
treatment,
mental
health
or
substance
abuse,
and
so
long
as
they're
complying
with
these
conditions
of
the
services
that
they
are
in
need
of.
There
is
no
punitive
sentence
that
is
given
to
them
and
if
there
are
any
missed,
appointments
or
they're
they're
non-compliant
with
their
conditions
of
their
sentence.
G
The
the
sentence
is
community
service
and
it's
giving
back
to
the
community
restorative
justice.
So
there
is
no
jail,
timers
or
fines
that
are
ever
ordered
in
community
court
and
then
our
last
program
that
I'm
going
to
speak
to
is
our
veterans
treatment
court.
Our
court,
assisting
military
offenders,
and
we
currently
in
that
program,
have
28
participants,
28
veterans,
I
should
say
thank
you.
R
Hi
ej
maldonado
for
the
record
with
western
fish,
western
regional
specialty
courts.
R
We
we
have
about
300
throughout
all
of
our
programs,
combined
325,
but
then
again
that
encompasses
six
six
counties
and
again
we
do
a
drug
court,
a
medication,
assisted
treatment,
court,
mental
health
court
and
dui
diversion,
and
I
I
in
reference
to
the
calendar
lengths
and
such
I
think.
One
thing
that
we
learned
through
kovid
was
to
be
able
to
have
meaningful
hearings
and
not
long
calendars
of
80
plus
people.
So
we
were
able
to
actually
create
a
nice
rotation.
R
So
we
can
make
sure
that
the
judge
has
good
face-to-face
time
and
not
rush
through
calendars
and
still
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
the
needs
of
all
of
our
participants.
There
was
a
period
of
time
when
we
were
upwards
well.
Over
400
dockets
would
be
100
120
in
carson
city
alone,
and
it
was
very
difficult
to
try
to
get
everybody
through,
because
we
only
had
a
courtroom
for
an
afternoon.
R
You
know,
given
the
fact
that
we
are,
we
travel
amongst
all
of
our
six
counties,
so
we're
just
borrowing
courtrooms
at
that
time
and
court
personnel.
So
it
made
it
a
little
bit
more
difficult.
It
was
a
different
dynamic,
but
I
feel,
like
we've
got
a
pretty
good
handle
on
things
in
regards
to
our
our
numbers
and
making
sure
that
we're
as
effective
as
we
can
be
a
support
program.
Thank
you.
B
This
is
julia
dendary
for
the
record
on
behalf
of
the
state
official,
we
have
roughly
50
participants
amongst
all
of
our
programs
right
now,
because
we
are
smaller
right
now.
I
think
we
are
able
to
follow
that
best
practice
of
allowing
each
participant
three
minutes
with
the
judge
to
have
those
conversations.
S
Denise
parker
for
the
record
district
court
for
our
stats
of
2021.
So
from
july
1st
2020
through
june
30th
2021,
we
served
1952
participants
in
adult
drug
court.
We
served
486.
in
our
transitional
age
program.
We
served
84.
in
our
felony
dui
program.
We
served
350
in
our
mental
health
court.
We
served
187
in
our
veterans,
treatment
court.
S
We
served
65
our
juvenile
drug
court,
we
served
85
in
our
family
treatment
court,
we
serve
251
and
in
our
child
support
court
we
served
one
and
in
our
co-occurring
disorders
court
we
served
77
in
our
open
program.
There
was
38
participants
in
our
lima
program.
There
was
212
participants
in
our
met
re-entry
we
had
87
participants
and
in
our
gambling
treatment
diversion
court
there
was
11
and
in
day
court
there
was
18
participants.
Thank
you.
O
Jerry
schaible,
you
certainly
touched
on
a
great
point
here:
the
best
practices
that
were
put
out
by
national
association
of
drug
court
professionals
in
2013
and
15
respectively,
two
different
volumes,
one
of
them,
has
to
do
with
judicial
rules,
roles
and
responsibilities
in
length
of
court
interaction.
If
you
allow
me
I'll,
read
two
sentences
here
in
a
study
of
nearly
70
adult
drug
courts.
Outcomes
were
significantly
better
when
the
judges
spent
an
average
of
three
at
least
three
minutes
and
as
much
as
seven
minutes,
interacting
with
participants
during
court
sessions.
O
A
Thank
you
and
that
wasn't
even
my
purpose,
but
I
was
going
to
touch
on
that
too.
I
mean
three
minutes
is
actually
not
a
terribly
long
time
when
you
stack
it
up
in
a
court
that
has
50
or
80
participants.
It
is
a
lot,
but
you
know
we
were
talking
earlier
today
about
the
challenges
in
getting
attorneys
out
into
rural
communities
and
finding
defense
counsel
and
even
hearing
masters,
and
to
think
that
you
know
you
can
really
make
a
difference
in
somebody's
life.
A
If
you
spend
three
minutes
with
them,
that's
very
doable
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
rural
courts,
but
you
know
it
is
one
way
in
which
maybe
they
do
have
the
advantage
over
our
more
populated
areas,
and
so
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
for
doing
that,
hard
work
and
for
spending
that
time
with
people
are
there.
Other
questions.
A
All
right,
not
seeing
any
other
questions.
Thank
you
all
for
your
presentation.
We
will
move
now
to
our
second
to
last
item
on
the
agenda.
I
think,
which
is
a
presentation
from
well
two
presentations
related
to
gaming,
and
we
will
start
with.
Are
we
starting
within
the
federal
resource
association?
T
A
T
T
Okay,
I
will
speak
up,
try
to
keep
everybody
going
here
this
late
in
the
afternoon,
so
I
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
having
me
here
today.
I
know
you've
got
a
long
meeting,
so
I'll
try
to
go
through
this.
Very
briefly.
Unfortunately,
during
the
pandemic
we
weren't
able
to
spend
as
much
time
with
you
as
we
wanted.
So
I
want
to
take
a
minute
to
answer
the
question:
what
is
the
nra?
It's
a
question.
I'm
actually
asked
a
lot
and
we
sometimes
are
confused
with
the
gun.
People.
T
T
The
this
is
the
mission
state
of
the
resort
association,
we're
basically
just
a
trade
association
for
resort
hotels
with
gaming.
We
advocate
for
the
industry
in
nevada.
T
In
terms
of
the
who
is
in
the
nra,
we
represent
77
properties,
statewide,
that's
about
22
corporations.
The
members
vary
from
very
large
multinational
international
companies
like
kimchi
and
resorts
international
to
individual
properties
with
individual
owners
like
southpointe
and
the
atlantis
and
others.
T
T
T
So
I
would
like
to
just
give
you
a
little
bit
of
our
history
here.
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
you
know
this,
but
at
the
dawn
of
the
tourism
industry
began
back
in
1931
when
nevada
and
the
nation
was
battled.
The
great
depression,
nevada's
forefathers
and
your
predecessors,
legalized
gaming
in
the
state
to
generate
tax
revenue,
to
create
jobs
and
to
create
an
attraction
for
tourism
in
order
to
make
the
state
a
destination.
T
Today,
gaming
is
found
in
almost
every
state
across
the
country,
but
we
remain
one
of
the
few
states
where
there
is
unlimited
competition.
Today
there
are
nearly
500
non-restricted
gaming
licenses
in
the
state
and
almost
2
000
restricted
gaming
licenses.
So
you
can
see
the
competition
is
fierce
and
I
will
say,
since
I
am
speaking
before
mr
wharton,
if
he
has
different
numbers,
I
would
say
his
are
the
right
numbers.
T
Here's
a
look
at
what
public
spending
and
revenue
flow
from
the
gaming
industry
every
legislative
session.
We
update
our
gaming
factbook.
This
date
is
supplied
by
applied
analysis
for
this
presentation.
I'm
going
to
use
our
most
recent
factbook,
which
came
out
in
2021
ahead
of
the
the
2021
session.
This
represents
a
period
pre-pandemic
and
fist
when
it's
a
fiscal
year,
I'm
talking
about
20
20.
Most
recently,
we
have
will
be
updated
again
this
year
and
again
these
are
pre
pandemic
values.
T
Of
course,
that
visitor
spending
has
a
huge
ripple
effect
in
nevada,
73
million
dollars,
pre-pandemic.
That
would
be
the
fy
19
number
for
every
dollar
spent
by
a
tourist.
Another
70
cents
is
generated
in
the
community
through
indirect
and
induced
spending.
You
can
see.
Visitors
spending
has
an
impact
on
small
businesses
that
support
the
industry
and
it
flows
into
the
community
through
hospitality,
worker
spending
on
goods
and
services.
T
Here's
a
look
at
the
employment
impacts.
Tourism
industry,
as
you
all
know,
is
the
state's
largest
employment
sector
pre-pandemic.
Nearly
one
in
every
four
employees.
Statewide
was
directly
employed
with
the
leisure
and
hospitality
industry.
When
considering
the
direct,
indirect
and
induced
employment.
The
tourism
industry
in
nevada
supported
more
than
433
000
jobs.
Again,
that's
pretty
pandemic.
T
T
When
we
look
at
the
industry's
contribution
to
the
state
general
fund
and
fy20,
that
figure
is
1.4
billion.
It's
important
to
note
that
these
values
reflect
activity
again
through
june
of
2020,
which
includes
approximately
four
months
of
pandemic,
related
impact,
including
78
day
period
of
complete
closure,
which
was
followed
by
months
of
reduced
capacity.
T
This
is
a
breakdown,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
where
that
number
comes
from.
I
don't
want
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
it,
but
you
can
see
that
this
represents
the
general
fund
through
all
general
business
taxes,
as
well
as
the
gaming
taxes.
The
percentages
are
shown
here.
Are
the
industry
share
of
the
total
funds
connected
for
that
category?.
T
Looking
at
gaming
specific
contributions-
and
this
includes
both
state
and
local
revenues-
our
industry
contributed
1.3
billion
in
fy
20.
room
taxes
account
for
the
largest
share
of
that
room.
Taxes
are
critical
for
marketing
nevada
as
a
destination
and
attracting
visitation,
but
they
also
support
critical
state
and
local
government
services
and
infrastructure.
T
For
example,
room
taxes
collected
in
southern
nevada
have
generated
more
than
1.4
billion
in
revenue
for
the
clark
county
school
district
capital
projects
fund.
Since
2000,
I'd
like
to
also
note
that
the
resort
industry
pays
the
same
business
taxes
and
fees
as
other
industries
in
the
state,
such
as
business,
licensing
fees
and
property
taxes.
T
T
One
of
the
other
contributions
of
the
resort
industry
is
in
total
capital
investments,
and
here
in
this
table,
you
can
see
that
the
very
large
contributions
over
the
course
of
the
next
several
years
we
expect
to
see
15
billion
in
tourism-related
capital
investment
projects.
Statewide
45
projects
are
targeted,
completion,
dates
on
or
before
2024..
T
The
lbcba
recently
released
a
report
highlighting
more
than
4.5
billion
in
new
projects.
Those
will
add
about
7
600
hotel
rooms
in
about
800
000
square
feet
of
convention
space
in
southern
nevada
by
the
end
of
2020,
and
these
projects,
of
course,
very
vital
to
job
creations,
because
they
create
not
only
new
hospitality
jobs
but
also
construction,
jobs
and
other
jobs
in
the
construction
industry
in
the
community
as
well.
T
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
where
we
are
in
the
recovery
and
what
that
means.
I
think,
you've
all
seen
headlines
and
I'm
sure
mr
warren
will
talk
about
the
record
gaming
win
of
over
100
of
a
billion
a
month.
I
wish
it
was
100
billion
100
100
a
billion
a
month,
and
that
is
great
news
for
our
state's
economy
because,
as
I
mentioned,
the
percentage
of
it
is
collected
and
deposited
into
the
state's
general
fund.
It
doesn't
tell
the
entire
story,
however,
of
the
integrated
resort
business
model.
T
Non-Gaming
areas
of
resorts
are
not
backed
pandemic
levels,
yet
we
haven't
seen
the
same
recovery
in
restaurants
and
food
and
beverage
spending
midweek
visitation
has
been
the
hardest
hit.
There
are
some
periods
when
convention
related
travel
would
help
boost
those
occupancies
in
those
midweek
periods
for
businesses,
including
restaurants,
entertainment
of
course
capacity
as
well
continues
to
impact
the
live,
entertainment
revenues.
T
International
travel
is
still
recovering.
Our
trade
show
convention
and
group
business
has
not
returned
to
its
peak
2019
levels.
To
give
you
a
little
comparative
example,
I
don't
have
this
on
the
slide.
Just
cover
this
quickly.
The
lbcba
recently
reported
february
2022
data
compared
to
february
2019
data
showing
that
for
las
vegas
visitation
remains
down.
18
convention
attendance
is
down
41
deplaned
air
passengers
down
8
percent
and
overall
hotel
occupancy
is
still
below
our
2019
levels.
Midweek
occupancy
remains
down
24
percentage
points.
T
So
the
headlines
on
gaming
revenue
alone
don't
tell
the
whole
story.
Things
are
definitely
trending
in
the
right
direction,
which
is
is
great
news
and
we're
very
optimistic
about
a
full
recovery.
So
in
addition,
I'm
sure,
as
you
I
know
it
was
mentioned
in
some
of
the
other
presentations
you
had
today.
There
is
we
are
experiencing
a
clinical
labor
shortage
and
supply
chain
challenges,
so
we're
also
watching
gas
prices.
Inflationary
pressures,
the
conflict
in
ukraine
to
see
if
any
of
these
factors
impact
visitation.
T
So
there's
a
lot
of
good
news,
though
too
again
we're
on
the
everything's
trending
up
the
return
of
meetings
and
trade
shows
is,
is
coming
the
upcoming
nfl
draft
and,
of
course,
f1
formula.
One
race
been
now
announced
in
november,
so
lots
of
good
news
there,
and
then
I
want
to
talk
about
our
legislative
engagement.
So
one
of
the
things
I
hope
to
leave
you
with
today
is
the
depth
and
breadth
of
the
legislature's
impact
on
the
gaming
industry.
T
T
We
appreciate
the
open
lines
of
communication
with
you,
as
we
share
a
perspective
on
bills
and
want
to
thank
you
for
the
time
many
of
you
took
during
the
last
session
to
reach
out
personally
virtually
by
text.
It
was
a
challenging
session
in
many
ways
to
communicate
for
everyone,
and
we
do
appreciate
your
work.
T
T
Unfortunately,
we
weren't
able
to
conduct
back
of
house
tours
during
the
pandemics.
Many
of
you
are
probably
aware
that
an
integrated
resort
hotel
operates
much
like
a
city
with
utilities,
physical
plants,
safety
and
security
systems.
T
We
work
with
a
large
number
of
employees,
guests,
tenants,
vendors,
entertainment,
I.t
systems,
transportation,
services
and
much
much
more.
So
I
think
that
helps
explain
how
almost
every
major
policy
bill
has
some
impact
on
the
resorts
every
session.
With
help
from
our
lobbying
team,
we
of
course
like
a
lot
of
associations,
go
through
a
long
list
of
bills
and
evaluate
their
impact
on
our
members
operations
and
the
effect
on
employees.
T
T
Maybe
47
non-compete
clauses,
sb
260
data
privacy,
sb
344,
exotic
animals
and
sb18
puc
assessments.
So
it's
not
uncommon
for
us
to
support
and
weigh
in
on
bills
by
public
agencies,
also
like
the
southern
nevada,
water
authority
or
the
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department
or
clark,
county
or
city
of
reno.
T
T
Those
bills
related
to
problem
gambling,
which
is
an
obvious
connection
to
our
industry,
but
we
also
testified
in
support
of
sb
275
hiv,
modernization,
sb,
284,
affordable
housing
credits,
ab182
human
trafficking,
bill
that
strengthened
the
existing
law
enclosing
loopholes
for
bad
actors.
We
also
supported
ab143
and
ab-113,
which
were
two
additional
shopping
bills.
T
T
Folks,
this
group
is
working
together
on
priority
issues
of
homelessness,
human
trafficking,
environmental
sustainability
and
dei
matters
coalition
has
been
very
active,
they're
doing
great
work
in
the
community.
One
of
their
recent
activities
was
on
human
trafficking.
In
january,
they
partnered
with
truckers
advanced
trafficking.
The
us
department
of
homeland
security,
metro,
southern
nevada
was
a
long
title
to
southern
nevada.
Human
trafficking
task
force
held
a
training
webinar
for
the
resort
industry.
More
than
160
people
attended.
It
was
very
well
received
and
we
look
forward
to
doing
it
again.
T
Next
year,
so
in
closing,
I
hope
I
have
provided
you
with
a
deeper
understanding
of
our
industry's
role
in
the
state.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
having
me
here
today
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
So
much
are
there
any
questions
from
members
of
the
committee.
D
Thank
you
for
that
presentation
about
the
resort
association.
I
I
have
a
question.
I
know
that
you
know
fortunate.
We've
been
fortunate
that
gaming,
I
guess,
has
come
back
and
I
know
that
over
the
last
past
20
years,
there's
been
a
shift
from
just
predominant
gaming
to
other
resort
industry
things
as
you
had
mentioned.
I
know
that
there
were
so
many
conferences
that
were
postponed
from
2020
until
honestly
until
recently
and
they
are
all
being
rescheduled.
T
Well,
I
wish
I
had
that
kind
of
a
crystal
ball,
there's
still
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
unknowns
and
uncertainty
and
how
how
the
how
travel
opening
up
again,
how
the
economy
with
a
lot
of
cash
flooding
around
the
economy.
T
Now
how
that's
going
to
play
out,
but
we
tell
you
certainly
that
everything
is
trending
in
the
right
direction
and
just
for
point
of
reference,
if
you
averaged
most
of
the
strip
properties,
you
would
see
that
that
gaming
is
probably
about
a
30
part
of
the
business
revenue
and
then
the
rest
of
it
is
everything
else.
So,
certainly
all
the
signs
are
encouraging
and
I'm
we're
hoping
that
we'll
be
back
at
those
2019
beef
levels
soon.
T
A
All
right
any
other
questions
at
this
point
not
seeing
any.
We
will
move
to
you,
mr
morton,
to
give
us
the
official
side
of
the
state
of
gaming
in
nevada.
N
Good
afternoon
sheriff
scheibel
vice
chair,
win
and
members
of
the
joint
interim
standing
committee
on
judiciary.
For
the
record,
I
am
michael
morton
senior
policy
counsel
for
the
nevada
gaming
control
board,
since
each
of
you
have
some
familiarity
with
the
gaming
control
board
from
your
past
legislative
sessions.
On
this
slide,
I've
simply
provided
the
board's
vision
to
mission
statements
and
then
general
staffing
levels
on
the
next
slide.
N
As
you
know,
the
nevada
gaming
control
board
prides
itself
in
being
the
premier
gaming
regulator
in
both
the
nation
and
the
world
through
the
strict
regulation
of
every
aspect
of
the
gaming
industry
in
this
state.
The
board
promotes
confidence
in
the
industry
by
both
residents
and
visitors
alike,
and
ensure
that
all
gaming
taxes
and
fees
and
essential
source
of
state
revenue
are
collected
efficiently.
N
N
The
board
made
initial
appointments
to
this
committee
on
november
3rd
2021
and
an
additional
appointment
at
the
end
of
february
this
year.
The
statute
creating
this
committee
requires
the
board
to
appoint
certain
types
of
industry
leaders
to
the
committee
and
provides
the
board
with
the
flexibility
necessary
to
appoint
additional
members
to
this
committee.
As
the
committee
does
its
work,
the
board
is
very
excited
about
the
diverse
set
of
experts
that
has
appointed
to
the
committee,
who
you
see
on
the
slide
on
your
screens.
N
Now,
sb
165
required
the
board
to
appoint
four
types
of
individuals,
esports
participants
which
could
have
been
players
or
team
owners,
broadcasters
hosts
and
game
publishers.
So
the
board
the
board
is
proud
of
the
the
people
that
has
selected
and
appointed
to
this
committee.
N
The
first
meeting
of
the
esports
technical
advisory
committee
was
held
on
march
1
2022
and
addressed
the
topics
you
see
on
the
slide.
Now
per
the
appointment
order
issued
by
the
board,
the
committee
will
meet
once
per
calendar
quarter
and
the
board
is
tentatively
planning
on
holding
the
committee's
next
meeting
in
june.
N
Charitable
lotteries
and
charitable
gaming
are
another
piece
of
the
regulatory
framework
that
has
seen
an
increase
in
public
interest
over
the
past
couple
of
legislative
sessions.
After
the
creation
of
charitable
lottery
and
charitable
gaming
laws
in
1991,
chapter
462
of
nrs
went
unchanged
until
the
2019
session,
with
the
passage
of
assembly
bill
117.
N
This
slide
provides
the
number
of
applications
and
registrations
that
have
been
filed
with
the
enforcement
division
of
the
board
related
to
charitable
lotteries
and
charitable
gaming.
Since
the
effective
date
of
ab-202
of
no
are
the
annual
registration
approvals,
which
are
those
filed
by
qualified
organizations
awarding
less
than
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
prizes
per
calendar
year.
N
Nevada
first
entered
into
the
multi-state
internet
gaming
agreement
with
delaware
in
2014
and
later
brought
new
jersey
into
the
agreement
in
2017.,
as
online
gaming
expands
throughout
other
jurisdictions.
In
the
united
states.
This
agreement
has
gained
steam
with
the
state
of
michigan
poised
to
join
the
agreement
in
the
coming
days.
N
Those
inspections,
coupled
with
the
work
of
the
board's
administration
division
in
statewide
multi-industry
mitigation
efforts
and
vaccine
distribution
totaled
nearly
110
000
hours
of
covert
19
response
work.
This
work
was
done
by
the
board
without
any
additional
staff,
while
operating
with
a
reduced
budget.
N
N
N
I've
provided
the
last
few
slides
as
a
backdrop
to
where
the
industry
and
the
agency
are
now
and
where
we
are
going
in
the
near
future.
This
slide
provides
the
committee
with
a
high
level
overview
of
other
gaming
regulatory
agencies,
budgets
in
other
jurisdictions,
compared
compared
to
nevada
for
fiscal
year
2020..
N
As
you
can
see,
there
are
a
number
of
jurisdictions
with
gaming
regulatory
budgets
much
more
robust
than
nevada's,
as
well
as
another
group
of
jurisdictions
that
have
budget
similar
in
size
to
that
of
nevada.
For
reference,
illinois
has
21
gaming
licensees
new
york,
15
maryland
six
new
jersey,
21
and
pennsylvania
14..
N
N
By
the
time
an
extensive
review
and
audit
of
the
slot
machine
had
been
completed.
That
confirmed
the
jackpot
had
been
won.
The
patron
had
already
returned
home
to
arizona
upon
this
realization
enforcement
agents.
At
the
board
began
studying
surveillance,
footage
from
multiple
casino
properties,
witness
interviews,
electronic
purchase
records
and
ride
shared
data
to
successfully
identify
the
patron,
who
had
won
the
almost
230
thousand
dollar
jackpot.
N
After
making
contact
with
that
patron
and
confirming
his
identity.
On
january
28th,
the
patron
returned
to
las
vegas
the
following
weekend
to
collect
his
winnings.
It
is
this
type
of
proactive,
honest
and
investigative
work
that
continues
to
make
the
nevada
gaming
control
board
the
gold
standard
of
gaming
regulation
across
the
nation
in
the
world.
N
A
All
right,
thank
you.
First,
it
seems
ms
valentine's
numbers
were
right
on,
so
it's
good
to
see
consistency
and
are
there
any
questions
for
mr
morton.
D
Question
hi,
rochelle
lynn,
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I
have
a
question
when
the
board
is,
I
guess,
when
there
are
questions
about
like
policy
or
intent,
are
there
what's
the
mechanism
to
like
you
know?
Is
it
just
presentations
to
the
legislature,
the
executive
branch?
How
do
you
when
you're
there
are
questions
that
need
answering
in
those
areas
like
how?
What
is
the
mechanism
to
like
inform
the
legislature
of
concerns.
N
Michael
morton
for
the
record
I'll
answer
that
question
two
ways:
if
there
are
questions
from
members
of
the
public,
the
press,
the
legislature,
other
agencies
in
the
executive
branch,
the
board
has
a,
we
call
it
the
board
information
packet,
it's
on
the
board's
website.
N
D
So
just
follow
up
chair,
so
if
you
don't
have
to
go
through
the
ledge
commission
to
like
enact
like
regulatory
provisions
to
you
know,
do
your
job.
What
is
the
is
there
like?
A
what's
the
due
process
involved
there
like
if
someone
like
objects
to
like
a
regulatory
like
thing
that
the
board
like
votes
on?
How
does
that
work.
N
Sure
so
oftentimes
the
the
attorney
general's
office,
who
is
the
legal
counsel
for
the
board
and
then
the
board
will
draft
regulatory
amendments.
Those
regulatory
amendments,
just
like
any
other
state
agency,
will
go
through
the
the
workshop
process
will
hold
public
workshops
on
those
on
those
proposals
and
then
the
board
is
not
the
final
orbiter.
N
The
statutory
framework
gives
the
nevada
gaming
commission
the
the
regulatory
authority
to
adopt
those
regulations,
so
the
board
will
propose
those
after
they
get
workshopped
by
the
board.
They
will
be
presented
to
the
commission
and
all
of
those
workshops
and
commission
hearings
are
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law
for
com.
Commission
final
adoption
of
regulations.
A
All
right
any
other
questions
all
right,
not
seeing
any.
I
think
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
agenda
item
number
six.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation.
We
have
just
one
more
agenda
item
before
we
get
to
agenda
item
number
seven,
which
is
our
second
public
comment.
The
prize
for
all
of
you
who
stuck
with
us,
is
a
preview
of
the
rest
of
the
year
with
judiciary.
A
I
meant
to
do
this
at
I
mentioned
this
at
the
beginning,
a
number
of
people
have
reached
out
to
me
and
asked
about
the
the
schedule
and
that
first
work
plan
that
we
put
out,
and
I
appreciate
that
and
you're
all
welcome.
Please
continue
to
call
me
email
me.
None
of
this
is
secret.
It's
just
we're
all
trying
to
work
out
our
schedules
so
that
next
meeting
that
we'll
be
having
will
be
may
6,
like
I
said
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting
that
will
be
focused
on
juvenile
justice
and
those.
A
Besides
the
courts
on
how
they
are
implementing
116
and
424
and
and
anything
else,
and
then
the
rest
of
the
schedule
will
more
or
less
follow
what
we've
already
outlined
with
june
being
our
summary
evictions,
not
gaming,
and
I'm
not
we'll
see
what
happens
in
june,
with
july,
being
law
enforcement
and
then
august
being
our
work
session,
and
I
know
that
again,
it's
just
a
rough
outline.
I'm
just
trying
to
provide
you
guys
with
a
little
bit
of
you
know
a
road
map,
but
it
it.
It's
also
subject
to
change.
A
If
there
are
items
that
we
need
to
add
items
that
we
need
to
move,
please
please
just
contact
me
and
our
staff,
and
we
will
work
with
you
to
do
our
best
to
make
sure
that
everybody
can
be
here.
For
these
important
conversations-
and
with
that
said,
we
will
move
on
to
item
number.
Seven
public
comment
is
there.
I
think
there
are
some
people
in
the
room
to
make
public
comment.
Remember
you
will
have
three
minutes
each
and
remember
to
state
your
name
for
the
record
when
you
start.
I
Hello,
nick
schipak
n-I-c-k-s-h-e-p-a-c-k
state
deputy
director
of
the
fines
and
fees
justice
center.
Thank
you
again
for
having
us
back.
We
just.
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
a
few
things
that
we
heard
today
going
all
the
way
back
to
mr
mccormick's
presentation.
I
I
We
strongly
believe
that
the
administrative
assessment
is
not
a
proper
way
to
fund
the
courts
as
traffic
tickets
go
down,
whether
that
is
through
things
like
covid
or
creating
safer
streets
and
just
having
less
tickets
in
the
city,
the
courts
are
going
to
lose
money
and
the
courts
should
be
funded
through
another
source.
We
encourage
you
to
look
at
that.
I
We
also
heard
from
the
courts
that
they
are
creating
a
unified
system
for
traffic
tickets
and
that
that
is
not
currently
going
to
include
an
ability
to
pay
assessment
option,
while
there
may
be
no
ability
to
pay
assessment
at
the
beginning.
We
know
that
there's
appetite
from
advocates
legislators
and
some
of
the
judges.
We
spoke
to
to
implement
that
sort
of
ability
to
pay
assessment
online
at
some
point,
so
we
strongly
urge
that
any
creation
of
a
unified
system,
at
least
allow
for
that
on
the
back
end.
I
Otherwise
we
could
run
into
a
lot
of
trouble
along
with
that.
There
is
a
system
that
the
doj
created
is
open,
source
software.
It's
currently
used
by
california.
It
does
all
civil
traffic
violations
online.
It's
very
user
friendly,
the
courts
like
it.
It
is
free,
so
we
were
talking
about
spending
money.
It
is
definitely
something
that
the
legislature,
the
court,
should
look
into
the
aoc.
It's
free
software.
I
And
lastly,
we
were
very
inspired.
We
as
well
as
everybody,
by
what
we
saw
today
from
the
individuals
that
came
from
prison
industries.
Now.
One
thing
we
have
seen
since
the
release
of
all
of
them
is
that
the
cost
of
incarceration
for
the
incarcerated
has
gone
up
greatly.
A
recent
report
released
an
audit
from
the
executive
branch
found
that
commissary
markups
are
the
highest
they've
ever
been
40
plus
percent
deductions,
according
to
the
audit
for
people
who
are
working
are
at
50
percent.
I
So
if
we
want
to
keep
encouraging
these
type
of
success
stories,
people
living
with
money
to
get
on
their
feet,
we
need
to
be
looking
at
the
fines
and
fees
that
are
associated
while
incarcerated
and
the
deductions,
as
well
as
the
wages,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
have
these
types
of
success
stories,
and
hopefully,
corrections
makes
it
on
that
list.
We
just
had
because
we'll
talk
more
about
that,
then
thank
you
so
much.
B
My
colleague
mr
shepack's
comments
and
also
comment
on
items
d
and
steve
indigent
defense,
department
of
engine
defense
services
and
the
conversation
that
we
had
about
bail
earlier
today.
As
ms
mentioned,
the
aclu
nevada
and
our
national
organization
sued,
the
state
of
nevada
for
failure
to
fulfill
its
constitutional
obligation
to
provide
adequate
legal.
B
Rural
defendants
are
guaranteed
equal
protection
of
the
law.
We
support
unifying
courts,
investing
in
technology
or
whatever
other
means
necessary
to
meet
that
48
hour
threshold,
but
we
cannot
allow
the
state
to
move
backwards.
We
are
very
excited
that
we'll
be
talking
more
about
bail
in
the
coming
months,
and
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
B
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
on
the
implementation
of
ab424
and
the
other
bail
reform
statutes
that
were
implemented
thanks
to
the
great
work
that
this
committee
did
in
the
last
session,
just
to
provide
some
additional
information
regarding
the
public
defenders
viewpoint
regarding
424,
we
are
ready
and
able
to
work
and
comply
with
the
law
as
it
is.
We
have
worked
very
diligently
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office
to
create
a
new
team
to
ensure
that
we
are
in
compliance
with
the
valdez
jimenez
and
the
law.
B
We've
worked
with
the
honorable
judge,
chief
judge
simons
on
the
process
and
how
it
will
function
with
the
weekend
initial
appearance,
docket,
everyone
has
participated
from
municipal
courts,
justice
courts,
district
courts,
district
attorneys,
alternate
public
defenders,
office,
public
defenders,
office,
sheriff's
office
and
pretrial
services
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
system
and
it
is
currently
falling
in
place,
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
its
implementation
when
it's
ready
to
go
as
assembly
person.
O'neil
is
aware.
B
The
current
law-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
clear
on
the
record-
requires
law
enforcement
agencies
to
provide
probable
cause
reports
within
12
hours.
I
can
say
from
my
own
experience
of
doing
a
ride-along
with
washa
county
sheriff's
department
that
they
ensure
that
their
deputies
provide
the
probable
cause
sheets
before
they
leave
from
that
shift.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
clear
on
the
record
as
well.
B
We've
been
working
with
specialty
courts
to
ensure
their
compliance
with
ab222
from
the
2019
session,
as
well
as
236,
because
it
is
vital
that
we
provide
our
clients
and
citizens
with
these
services
when
they
are
deserving
of
them
when
they
qualify
for
them
and
will
continue
to
work
with
some
of
the
implementation
issues
to
ensure
that
specialty
courts
are
accessible
for
all
those
who
deserve
it.
Thank
you.
A
J
B
B
B
Policy
director
with
the
progressive
leadership
alliance
of
nevada
after
hearing
today's
presentations,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate,
along
with
the
previous
comments,
that
all
nevadans,
regardless
of
where
they
are
located
across
the
state,
are
entitled
to
the
same
level
of
justice
and
48
hours
should
be
the
absolute
maximum
time.
It
should
take
to
see
a
judge.
The
pandemic
has
shown
us
that
technology
has
allowed
us
to
work
together,
sometimes
even
more
efficiently
from
different
parts
of
the
state.
Today,
I'm
joining
you
by
phone
and
watching
online
from
reno.
B
M
M
M
Besides
the
perpetrators
using
handheld
direct
energy
weapon
or
laser
weapons,
they
also
organized
as
a
group
of
stalkers
working
together
in
uniformity,
which
included
my
neighbors
next
door.
To
me,
the
units
above
me
and
some
others
living
in
the
same
community
they
breaking
into
they
break
into
my
units
and
ransack.
My
belongings
use
directional
speakers
to
direct
their
noise
into
my
units,
24,
who
harassed
me
and
put
me
into
a
state
of
fear.
M
These
gangsters
also
vandalized
my
vehicle
put
dirt
and
trash
at
my
entrance
door
as
gangsters
talk
very
loudly
while
walking
by
my
door
in
the
hallway
noise
campaign,
noise
harassment
use
vulgar
language
towards
me.
This
group
of
stalkers
are
getting
paid
to
attack
me
and
destroy
my
life.
This
is
a
hate
crime
that
needs
to
be
stopped.
R
I
just
wanted
to
echo
the
comments
that
most
of
the
prior
commenters
made,
and
I
wanted
to
specifically
address
the
comments
that
one
of
the
presenters
made
about
court
employees
not
wanting
to
work
weekends,
because
I
totally
understand
that
I
think
that's
very
reasonable,
but
the
problem
is
a
lot
of
people
are
in
jail
and
they
need
to
work
weekends.
R
They
need
to
take
care
of
their
kids.
If
somebody
gets
arrested
thursday
afternoon,
72
hours
means
they
miss
work
on.
You
know
friday.
They
miss
work
on
monday,
48
judicial
hours.
If
that's
the
standard
that
could
stretch
into
tuesday
or
wednesday
afternoon,
depending
on
what
the
court's
judicial
hours
are.
R
R
C
In
regard
to
the
electronic
torture
act,
this
legislation
is
built
upon
all
different
forms
of
devices
that
falls
into
the
categories
of
electronic
devices
lethal
and
non-lethal
weapon
systems.
Cyber
criminals
and
hackers
can
gain
access
to
zoom
meetings,
medical
records
being
shipped
online
e-filing
systems
remotely
accessing
the
video
components
and
microphone
settings
using
different
scripts
and
direct
access
into
hard
drives
using
pokey
long
codes,
law
enforcement
and
other
departments
and
agencies
have
these
weapon
systems
in
their
possessions,
whether
they
realize
it
or
not.
C
These
devices
do
bodily
harm
to
the
civilians
and
causes
diseases
like
multiple
sclerosis,
cancer,
blisters
burns
muscle,
spasms
tendinitis
with
false
mental
diagnosis,
law
enforcement
and
federal
agencies
have
the
equipment
to
commit
these
crimes.
It
is
time
to
set
up
a
special
task
force
that
could
prove
these
crimes,
a
task
force
that
provides
the
medical
tests,
which
prove
that
they
are,
in
fact
the
victim
attacked
by
directed
energy
weapons,
electronic
devices
and
sexually
assaulted.
C
The
bill
proposal
allows
the
victims
to
give
money,
as
well
with
the
state
the
convictions
of
these
crimes,
with
the
abuse
of
power
from
denying
their
involvement
and
not
properly
reporting.
These
crimes
deserves
punishment.
They
are
stealing
your
state
funding
and
grants
and
viewing
that
abusing
your
power
and
positions.
C
These
attacks
on
the
nevada
citizens
are
caused
by
loopholes
of
state
grants
and
funding
that
is
authorized
throughout
your
state.
For
instance,
the
brain
initiative
act,
energy
efficiency
act,
free
crime,
program,
cp3,
intelligence,
led
programs,
facial
recognition
systems
and
lack
of
laws
on
drones
being
used
from
the
public
with
video
voyeurism
attributes,
your
constant
your
constituents
are
reaching
up
for
your
help
to
prevent
these
crimes
from
being
committed
to
stop
the
electronic
harassment
and
torture
that
is
occurring.
Allow
this
bill
proposal
to
be
accepted.
C
A
All
right,
thank
you,
everybody
in
the
approximately
12
minutes.
Since
I
talked
about
the
schedule
with
you,
I
was
reminded
that
I
did
not
include
the
department
of
corrections
in
that
schedule.
We
will
have
them
in
for
a
meeting.
I
think
that
will
be
the
june
meeting
and
we
are
also
still
picking
up
summary
evictions.
A
D
Thank
you,
chair
schreibel.
I
was
just
wondering
what
time
are
the
two
meetings
in
may
may
6
and
may
13?
What
time
are
they
scheduled
for?
Please.
A
A
All
right
doesn't
look
like
we
have
anything
else.
We
have
concluded
our
business
at
2
42,
not
bad
team.
Thank
you
again
for
persevering,
and
we
will
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
on
may
6th
and
until
then
stay
safe
and
stay
healthy
and
have
a
great
day.
We
are
adjourned.