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From YouTube: 9/14/2022 - Interim Finance Committee
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A
Let's
see
I
want
to
make
sure
I
cover
all
the
things.
We
need
just
a
reminder
that
stay
muted
when
you're,
not
speaking
and
the
majority
of
the
members,
are
going
to
be
on
Zoom
I,
believe
we
have
two
in
Carson
City
and
you
know,
keep
your
cameras
on
so
accurate
vote.
Counts
can
be
taken
and
chat,
feature
and
zoom
show
I'll
be
used
to
communicate
technical
difficulties
with
staff.
A
The
the
meeting
packet
can
be
found
online
at
the
committee's
web
page
for
anybody,
that's
listening
and
wishes
to
get
the
materials.
So
this
is
a
a
special
meeting.
We
have
a
few
items
that
we
need
to
get.
Some
timeliness
have
to
just
cover
today,
and
so
the
first
thing
we're
going
to
do
is
take
a
roll
call
so
to
miss
carving.
Would
you
please
call
the
roll.
C
D
C
E
F
C
A
A
I'm
here
and
I'm,
just
looking
I
I
believe
we
might
have
one
member
still
waiting
and
so
just
Mark
her
present
when
she
she
arrives
and
in
addition
we
do
have
assembling
members
Peters
and
Roberts
who
are
absent
excuse
today.
A
A
This
is
the
first
public
comment
period
on
the
agenda
and
there
will
be
another
one
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
because
of
time
considerations.
Each
commentator
will
be
limited
to
not
more
than
two
minutes
and
if
you
wish
to
call
in
the
the
information
is
available
on
our
website,
the
the
you
would
call
in
the
number
669-900-6833.
A
837-847-80357
then,
pound
sign
and
you'll
be
prompted
for
participant
ID.
So
you
can.
This
is
all
available
on
the
agenda
as
well
as
online.
If
you
need
more,
if
you
need
that
information,
we
do
have
a
small
Listening
Room
set
up
in
the
for
the
public
in
Las
Vegas,
also
in
addition
to
Carson
City
and
those
of
us
that
are
on
Zoom.
A
So
with
that,
let's
go
to
public
comment:
why
don't
we?
Let's
start,
let's
see,
let's
start
with
Carson
City.
Is
there
anyone
in
Carson
City?
That
is
wishing
to
give
public
comment.
A
Okay,
great:
let's
go
to
Las
Vegas,
since
we
have
a
Listening
Room
in
Las
Vegas.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
Las
Vegas
office
wishing
to
get
public
comments.
A
It'll
catch
up
here
in
just
a
second
but
go
ahead,
and
if
there's
anybody
else,
I
can't
I
can't
see
if
there's
two
chairs
there,
but
just
fill
in
the
chairs
as
people
finish,
so
go
ahead
when
you're
ready
sure.
B
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chair
Dennis
and
members
of
the
committee.
For
the
record.
My
name
is
Sasha
Stevenson.
Most
of
you
know
me
in
my
professional
capacity,
but
today
I'm
here
in
my
capacity
as
a
board
member
of
the
governor's
office
of
Economic
Development
and
as
chair
of
goeds
board
subcommittee
on
startups
and
Tech
Innovation.
So
I
want
to
commend
the
committee
for
its
consideration
of
the
state's
small
business
credit
initiative,
which
is
ssbci
2.0.
It's
a
program
I've
recently
been
exposed
to
in
my
capacity
as
The
subcommittee
Chair.
B
By
way
of
background,
I've
also
previously
served
as
the
executive
director
of
the
state
International
Development
organization,
which
represents
All
State
Economic
Development
offices
in
the
United
States,
so
I'm
particularly
interested
in
programs
that
enable
states
to
leverage
federal
funds
to
build
upon
existing
Investments,
such
as
the
battleborn
growth
front.
The
battleborn
growth
has
supported
operations
of
accelerators,
such
as
startup
up
envy
and
Generator,
the
latter
of
which
is
a
nationally
recognized
company
that
has
recently
begun.
Successful
operations
in
Nevada,
ssbci
1.0
has
so
far
funded.
B
15
companies,
including
Outlaw
soaps,
the
founder
of
which
now
sits
as
a
member
of
the
subcommittee
on
startups
and
Tech
Innovation.
Approval
of
the
program
being
considered
today
will
provide
additional
critical
precede
stage
funding
for
startups
from
Nevada's
research
universities,
providing
additional
growth
and
exciting
new
sectors,
which
is
always
great
for
the
economy
of
Nevada.
Should
this
body
authorize
Goa
to
accept
the
federal
funding,
I'm
told
it
can
be
leveraged
to
fund
another
176
deals
over
the
course
of
the
program.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Today.
A
A
Okay,
I'm
not
hearing
any,
let's
go
to,
though
anyone
online
wishing
to
give
public
comment
BPS.
If
you
could
queue
up
the
first
person.
B
G
Good
afternoon,
chair
Dennis
Vice,
chair
Carlton
members
of
the
interim
finance
committee
for
the
record
Ken
Evans
board
member
for
Access
Community
Capital.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
important
topic
on
behalf
of
the
hundreds
of
small
business
owners
we
work
with
every
month.
Access
is
excited
about
the
potential
of
the
state
small
business
credit
initiative.
G
Many
times
in
our
communities
in
the
State
capital
is
probably
the
major
issue
that
a
lot
of
businesses
struggle
with
and
part
of
that
struggle
is
the
businesses
figuring
out
how
to
reach
or
be
reached?
Rarely
does
an
opportunity
present
itself
like
this.
G
One
does
now
very
happy
to
have
this
opportunity,
via
the
ssbci
program,
to
address
this
delivery
challenge
Nevada
as
a
result
of
the
leadership
from
the
governor's
office
of
Economic
Development
has
drafted
and
submitted
to
a
U.S
treasury,
a
plan
that
may
transform
the
pipe
lines
through
which
capital
can
flow
and
reach
a
diversity
of
entrepreneurs
which
we
greatly
appreciate.
Capital
Delivery
Systems
are
remarkably
uneven
across
the
country
and
even
across
the
state.
However,
goeds
plan
connects
Community,
Banks,
community
development,
financial
institutions,
large
financial
institutions
and
other
lifespans
of
the
small
business
lending
ecosystem.
G
To
address
this
need.
The
plan
from
go
Ed
provides
flexible
Capital
to
be
allocated
to
programs
that
directly
invest
in
entrepreneurs
and
small
businesses
at
different
stages
from
Individual
sole
Proprietors
to
startups
targeting
explosive
growth.
What
is
exciting
about
goit's
plan
is
that
it
is
designed
to
address
three
things
through
the
ssbci
allocation.
First,
it
will
attract
private
investment
into
the
state
targeting
a
10
to
1
ratio.
It
reaches
very
small
businesses
with
fewer
than
10
employees,
plus
it
reaches
businesses
owned
by
socially
and
economically
Advantage.
G
Individuals,
when
fully
launched
and
activated
goeds
plan
will
spur
virtuous
cycles
of
innovation
to
venture
capital
program
investment.
Additionally,
it
reaches
entrepreneurs
through
Outreach
across
geographies
and
socioeconomic
classes.
Having
worked
with
Karsten
Heist
director,
Michael
Brown
and
the
incredible
staff
at
goed,
we
enthusiastically
support
the
current
plan
to
participate
in
the
ssbci
program.
Thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
public
comment
on
behalf
of
Nick
still
our
executive
director
at
access,
Community,
Capital.
E
Good
afternoon
committee,
my
name
is
Troy
vosseler
and
I
am
the
co-founder
of
generator
I'm.
Speaking
in
favor
of
agenda
item
number
C
is
in
Charlie
11
relating
to
the
ssbti
state
small
business
credit
initiative.
My
organization
generator
is
both
a
venture
capital
firm
and
startup
accelerator.
We
currently
work
under
contract
with
goed
to
operate
startup
accelerator
programs
in
both
Reno
and
Las
Vegas,
which
just
kicked
off
a
week
ago.
E
We
have
already
committed
from
our
own
private
funds,
our
own
private
Venture,
Capital
dollars,
2.5
million
dollars
and
over
the
next
five
years
we
will
be
working
and
investing
in
at
least
50
startups
in
Nevada,
historically
for
every
dollar
that
we
invest
from
our
fund.
We
the
startups
that
we
invest
in,
go
on
to
raise
at
least
forty
four
dollars
of
private
follow-on,
Venture
Capital.
It's
really
a
leveraged
ratio
of
1
to
44.,
based
on
that
2.5
million
private
commitment
that
we've
already
made.
E
This
translates
to
110
million
dollars
again
I'm
speaking
in
favor
of
agenda
item
C11,
and
hope
that
the
committee
moves
forward.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
H
Thanks
good
afternoon
and
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
in
favor
of
ssbci,
my
name
is
Jeff
sailing
and
I'm,
calling
in
my
capacity
as
co-founder
and
executive
director
of
startup
MD
Nevada's,
Statewide,
non-profit
startup
accelerator
program,
I'm,
also
a
partner
in
three
small
Venture
Capital
funds
that
are
affiliated
with
startup
and
B
in
these
Venture
Capital
funds
make
investments
with
private
capitals
in
the
companies
that
go
through
the
accelerator
programs.
The
reasons
my
co-founders
and
I
started.
H
Startup
MV
in
2017
is
because
we
nevadans
are
behind
as
far
as
venture
capital
and
the
startup
ecosystem,
and
we
want
to
create
a
vibrant,
inclusive,
startup
Community
here
at
home
in
Nevada,
before
startup
D
I
spent
most
of
my
career
in
Tech
startups
in
Silicon,
Valley,
Seattle
and
Austin,
so
I've
seen
what
it
takes
and
I've
lived
it
and
the
ssbci
program,
as
it's
constructed
right
now,
is
going
to
drastically
improve
our
situation
situation
in
Nevada
because
it
requires
private
investors.
Venture
Capital
funds
like
ours
to
invest
alongside
the
sspci
funds.
H
So
our
organization
helps
to
go
out
in
the
community.
Go
out
in
the
community.
Find
companies
complete
extensive,
due
diligence,
and
then
we
invest
our
own
capital
and
then
beyond
that
we
coach
the
companies
to
be
as
sure
as
possible
of
success.
So
since
we
invest
private
Capital
raised
from
lots
of
private
investors,
we're
pretty
careful
about
the
Investments
that
we
make
and
the
ssbci
money
and
ours
are
added
together
to
de-risk
the
entire
investment
while
growing
our
our
venture
capital
and
startup
ecosystems.
H
It's
a
really
highly
productive
private
public
partnership
that
grows
the
startup,
Community,
diversifies
the
economy
of
our
state
and
because
it's
an
investment
and
not
a
grant.
It
should
return
Capital
to
the
program
just
like
it
does
for
our
investors
and
because
our
programs
are
intentionally
inclusive
actively,
reaching
out
to
and
working
with,
traditionally
underserved
communities.
The
sspci
program
provides
diversity
in
multiple
ways
by
investing
in
Nevada
in
nevadans,
who
are
creating
their
startups
growing
jobs,
generating
wealth
for
entrepreneurs,
their
employees,
their
investors,
including
through
ssbci.
H
B
B
E
Our
team
has
had
the
opportunity
to
work
across
the
country
with
similar
teams
on
similar
initiatives,
and
we
believe
that
it
can
be
a
transformational
opportunity
for
small
business
owners
across
the
state
of
Nevada,
particularly
for
those
who
have
traditionally
struggled
to
access
Capital.
We
do
think
this
is
a
unique
opportunity
for
the
state
of
Nevada
and
I'm
proud
to
be
here
in
support
of
the
program.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Let's
go
to
the
next
call.
E
We've
already
had
the
distinct
privilege
of
hearing
from
one
of
our
Founders
Tori
bossler,
so
great
to
have
him
on
the
call,
as
well
as
other
people
in
the
local
ecosystem
and
Community,
like
Jeff
Staley,
who
were
great
partners
with
I,
am
just
incredibly
enthusiastic
and
supportive
of
the
ssbci
program
in
Nevada,
not
only
for
what
it
means
for
nevada-based
businesses,
startups
companies
Founders,
but
truly
to
lead
to
the
economic
diversification
of
the
state
and
the
future
of
the
workforce.
Innovation
culture
right
now
we're
working
with
five
High
Grove
startups.
E
It's
been
an
incredibly
selective
process
working
through
over
a
thousand
applications
to
get
to
the
top
teams
that
we'll
be
working
with
over
the
next
12
weeks.
During
our
cohort
program,
I
myself
have
been
in
Vegas
a
little
over
a
decade.
I
was
I,
worked
for
UNLV
for
several
years.
I
I've
had
startups
in
Vegas
I've
also
done
a
few
passion
projects
as
well.
E
What
we
have
going
on
here,
I've
truly
seen
in
the
past
just
year
and
two
years,
how
these
types
of
initiatives
have
really
changed:
the
landscape
and
the
ecosystem
of,
what's
going
on
with
Workforce,
with
business
with
startups,
in
a
way
that
I,
don't
believe,
has
really
ever
truly
been
done
before
I've
seen
more
collaboration
now
between
organizations
and
obviously
with
the
ssbci
program,
getting
refunded
to
be
able
to
pour
investment
Capital
throughout
the
state.
I
believe
this
will
greatly
benefit
Nevada.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
B
H
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
Ryan
Smith
I'm,
the
director
of
Economic
and
Urban
Development
for
the
city
of
Las,
Vegas,
testifying
in
support
of
item
number
11,
the
sscci
allocation.
B
First
I
want
to
thank
Carson
Heights
and
the
the
team
at
goed,
as
you've
heard
from
the
other
public
comments.
This
is
a
very
important
program
for
startups
and
getting
small.
B
Help
substantially
diversify
our.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We'll
I'll
go
ahead
and
close
this
open
the
first
public
comment
period
and
we
will
move
on
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
item,
number
c
approval
of
work
program,
revisions:
Mr
Thorley.
Would
you
go
over
those
for
us?
Please.
D
Certainly
Mr
chair
Wayne
thoroughly
for
the
record.
D
Division
list
C
can
be
accessed
through
the
agenda
through
the
linked
through
to
list
C
under
agenda
item.
C
There
are
16
work
programs
on
list
C.
All
these
work
programs
were
submitted
under
the
provisions
of
NRS
353-220
sub
5
b,
meaning
that
these
work
programs
require
expeditious
action
by
the
committee
within
15
days.
D
The
first
two
work
programs
to
note
are
C5
and
sixth,
they
are
related
to
each
other.
We
did
receive
a
revision
request
from
the
governor's
finance
office
for
both
these
items.
That
request
was
received
after
the
agenda
was
posted,
so
the
revision
is
not
reflected
on
list
C,
but
I
will
go
over
real
quickly.
What
the
revision
is,
the
dollar
amount,
the
1.9
million
dollars
in
both
C5
and
C6
has
been
revised
to
1.7
million
dollars.
D
The
exact
dollar
amount
is
1
million,
731
thousand
52
dollars
again,
that's
one,
seven,
three
one
zero
five:
two
that
is
the
same
for
both
work
programs,
C5
and
C6
since
the
proposal
years
to
transfer
general
fund
Appropriations
from
fiscal
year
22
to
23.
So
it's
a
matching
amount.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
members.
Do
you
have
any
that
you
wish
to
pull
from
item
C
if
I
can
switch
that
thing?
A
Okay,
I'm,
not
hearing
any
at
this
point
trying
to
take
my
time
in
case
you're
having
a
hard
time
finding
the
mute
at
the
end,
mute,
I!
Think,
okay,
all
right
so
so
we
are.
We've
only
pulled
C11,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
by
Sir
Carlton.
A
You
I'll
have
Senator
Karen
zaro.
Second,
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
A
A
All
right,
let's
go
to
item
number
B
on
the
agenda
statement
of
contingency
account,
balance
Mr
Thorley.
If
you
would
go
over
that.
A
Oh
I'm.
Sorry,
yes,
I'm
getting
ahead
of
myself
here!
Let's,
let's
go
on
to,
we
approved
all
the
rest
of
them,
but
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
about
C11.
A
A
F
B
J
My
name
is
Carson
heis
and
I
oversee
the
Strategic
programs
Innovation
at
goed,
which
also
includes
the
state
small
business,
credit
initiative
or
ssbci
for
short
I've
got
the
great
pleasure
today
to
be
joined
here
in
Carson
City
by
my
colleague,
deputy
director
popovs,
as
you,
you
know
just
heard,
also
Michelle
Lynn,
who
is
our
doctor
of
administration
and
in
Las
Vegas.
J
J
J
and
2000.
J
So
sspci
2.0
is
really
a
continuation
of
a
journey
which
we've
embarked
on
in
in
2011
and
which
also
witnessed
substantial
strengthening
in
2015
when
U.S
legislators
had
the
wisdom
and
foresight
to
create
a
Corporation
for
Public
benefit,
which
will
now
make
this
operation
of
ssbc
2.0
much
more
effective
and
I'm,
using
these
terms
deliberately
with
them
and
foresight,
because
those
were
mentioned
to
me
by
another
state
who
we
are
trying
to
help,
we
we
helped
within
the
sspc
application
process
when
we
explained
our
structure
to
them
and
they
complemented
you
for
that.
J
For
that
decision
back
in
2015.,
we
had
go
at
regard
this
program
as
a
I
could
really
say
once
in
a
generation
opportunity
to
stand
up,
Innovation
and
impact
Innovative
and
impactful
programs
to
support
Nevada
small
businesses
for
decades
to
come.
So
this
is
not
just
an
Initiative
for
the
duration
of
the
sspc
program,
but
the
way
we
set
it
up
is
going
to
be
for
a
generational
impact.
J
So
far
beyond
the
potential
proposed
I
think
2013
is
currently
being
talked
as
a
PCI
Sunset,
and
this
is
really
to
Foster
an
environment
of
equal
opportunity.
As
some
of
the
public
comments.
Speakers
have
already
alluded
to
equal
opportunity
and
Equitable
access
to
Capital,
especially
for
small
businesses
from
previously
underserved
communities.
This
is
a
vital
aspect
of
this
program,
just
to
recap
the
history
of
it.
J
As
the
country
really
is
now
needing
following
the
emergence
and
the
impact
of
the
emergency
out
of
and
the
impact
of
the
pandemic,
so
these
funds,
as
many
of
the
callers
in
caller
in
from
the
public
comment
side,
have
already
alluded
to
will
support
American
entrepreneurship
and
that
support
also
Democrat,
is
democratizing
access
to
Startup
Capital
across
the
country,
including
in
underserved
communities.
Again
here
with
entrepreneurship,
targeting
underserved
communities
is
a
priority.
J
So
for
one
dollar,
sspci
federal
funds
going
through
the
state
of
Nevada,
ten
dollars
of
private
money
is
coming
alongside,
and
that
really
means
that,
in
this
sort
of
you
know
advanced
form
of
public
private
partnership.
We
are
not
picking
winners
and
losers,
but
the
private
sector
is
identifying
winners
and
those
winners.
Then
you
know
that
they're
identifying,
then
they're
extending
those
loans
and
that
Venture
Capital
to
those
companies
and
sspca
will
support
the
private
sector
in
this
endeavor
alongside
so.
J
In
conclusion,
we
believe
that
we
have
submitted
a
compelling
programmatic
structure,
which
is
a
waiting
final
official
U.S
treasury
approval.
That
is,
we
have
completed
the
required
review
process
and
we
will
be
able
to
enter
the
Contracting
phase
through
an
allocation
agreement,
so
once
we
receive
hopefully
official
IFC
approval
today
that
allocation
agreement
phase
can
be
started
and
with
that
the
team
would
be
ready
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Let's,
let's
go
to
the
members
questions.
B
Thank
you
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
for
presenting
this
today
and
I.
Remember
when
this
money
originally
came
in
during
the
Sandoval
Administration
in
2011..
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
few
questions
about
this
reiteration
so.
B
Thing
that
was
certain
was
that
the
the
state
would
not
be
loaning
money
and
making
the
loan
decisions.
The
companies
had
to
go
to
or
to
venture
capital
firms
to
be
able
to
get
the
the
private
sector
piece,
and
it
sounds
like
that's
still
true.
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
and
and
confirming
it,
and
also
ask
based
on
the
funds
that
we've
had
over
the
years.
What
percentage
has
been
derived
from
bank
loans
versus
venture
capital.
J
This
is
customizer
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
those
questions,
they're
actually
very
important.
So
let
me
take
the
the
second
one.
First,
originally
13.8
million
were
allocated
to
the
program.
We.
J
Started
off
with
a
micro
loan
program
about
half
a
million
if
I
believe
and
the
balance
was
for
collateral,
Support
Program
cultural
support
basically
is:
if
there's
a
shortfall
in
collateral,
then
the
program
would
step
in
up
to
35
of
that
shortfall
and
then
in
2012
we
started
to
create
a
venture
capital
program
with
them
became
effective
in
2013.
We.
J
Have
continued
to
run
those
programs
since
Inception,
so
the
figures
I
give
you
will
not
be
at
the
cutoff
because
there's
a
PCI
program
sunset
in
2017
and
in
September.
So
we
have
then
used
that
funding
to
redeploy
it.
We
call
it
recycled
funds,
recycled
dollars
and
the
collateral
support
program
did
deploy
a
total
of
almost
14
million
since
Inception
13.9
and
again
this
is
just
a
portion
of
the
total
loan
size.
J
The
total
loan
size
is
actually
about
50
million
and
more
52.2
million
and
Venture
Capital
deployed
so
far,
6
million.
So
that's
how
the
balance
is
so
heavily
on
bias
towards
in
in
the
positive
sense
to
to
credit,
the
new
program
will
be
much
more
I
would
say.
J
You
know
Diversified
in
the
sense
that
instead
of
two
programs,
we
are
now
broadening
to
five
and
they
are
more
or
less
evenly
balanced
to
your
question
regarding
the
direct
or
you
know,
indirect-
and
this
is
still
the
case
so
as
I
said,
the
private
sector
needs
to
come
alongside.
J
So
when
you
have,
for
example,
credit
transaction
loans
under
the
loan
programs,
then
we
will
be
working
with
with
lenders
with
banks
or
with
you
heard,
Ken
Evans,
as
in
his
public
comment,
cdfis
community
development,
financial
institutions,
so
they
will
be
the
the
private,
the
private
sector
and
The
End
customer
for
us
will
not
be
the
small
business
we
will.
You
know
transact
with
with
the
banks
and
and
then
there's
like
cdfis
or
credit
unions
and
in
the
in
the
Venture
Capital
aspect
on
this
program.
J
In
the
past
we
have
conducted
our
investment
through
the
non-profit.
That
I
was
that
I
was
referencing
and
we
will
continue
to
do
so.
So
we
will
invest
continue
to
invest
directly
in
companies,
but
it's
not
US
government
or
the
state.
It
will
be.
Our
non-profit,
I
hope
that
answers
those
questions.
B
J
Is
customized
for
the
record
yeah?
The
answer
is
definitely
yes.
So
we
are
looking
at
a
run
rate
until
about
2030,
but
have
the
program
designed
in
such
a
way
that
those
funds
can
be
recycled
and
thereafter
I
mean
they
will
already
be
recycled
beforehand
so
redeployed.
But
our
intent
is
that
after
ssbci
sunsets,
we
will
continue
to
run
the
the
program
enormous
in
perpetuity.
J
This
is
what
I
was
talking
about
in
generational
impact:
I,
really
I'm,
really
looking
at
20
30
years
impact,
rather
than
you
know
the
10
years
for
the
sspci
program.
B
K
Exciting
that
we
have
potentially
more
Capital
coming
our
way
to.
B
Be
used
on
behalf
of
our
different
startups.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
we'll
now
go
to
Senator
Neal.
C
Thank
you,
chair
Dennis.
Hopefully
you
guys
can
hear
me
clearly
so
I
I
had
a
question
to
go
ahead
around
I.
Guess
the
structure
of
this.
So
what
what
I
know
and
understand
about
Venture
capitalism?
Typically,
a
venture
capitalist
has
a
portfolio
that
they
want
to
build
into,
or
they
may
take
a
risk
on
a
on
a
startup.
If
they
see
that
they're
going
to
get
the
return
on
the
investment
on
their
dollar,
meaning
they
see
that
the
growth
impact
of
that
startup
could
bring
them.
C
You
know
20
30,
right
they're,
not
looking
for
you
know
marginal
growth,
where
it's
like.
Oh
well,
you're
going
to
do
four
percent
here
and
we
can
see
you
know:
10
percent
down
the
line
in
terms
of
growth,
so
I'm
wondering
what
is
going
to
be
the
structure
of
this
on
the
government
side
to
help
startups
I
guess
become
eligible
for
the
capital
with
if
they
don't
fit
into
the
portfolio
of
the
Venture
capitalists
who
become
partners.
C
Will
there
be
a
catch-all
category
that
allows
someone
who's
more
into
design,
not
Tech,
not
Health
Care,
to
be
able
to
launch
right,
because
there's
always
an
other
category
that
a
venture
capitalist
may
not
be
interested
in,
but
the
government
probably
could
be
interested
in
because
it
is
a
Nevada
business
or
a
Nevada
startup.
J
I
This
structure,
please
thank
you
for
the
record,
Mindy,
Elliott
and
and
Senator
Neil.
That's
a
excellent
question,
part
of
the
structure
that
we
created
with
this
program.
It's
really
really
linear,
so
for
the
very
small
companies
that
are
trying
to
get
started,
but
aren't
quite
yet
ready
for
the
Venture
Capital
side.
We
have
the
community
development
financial
institution
cdfis
for
those
loans
that
are
less
than
250
000.
I
So
we've
really
tried
to
build
a
program
that
is
linear
for
the
life
of
the
business.
It
was
always
the
goal
and,
as
as
Mr
heisa
alluded
to,
we
now
have
five
programs
and
within
those
five
programs
in
that
structure,
your
your
description
of
what
a
small
business
is
looking
for
is
exactly
why
we
built
in
so
many
different
Pathways,
for
a
business
to
to
identify
a
capital
need
I,
hope
that
helps.
C
Thank
you
chair,
so
let
me
let
me
follow
up
with.
C
Program
for
a
while,
but
as
as
a
startup
right,
you
have
limited
collateral
coming
in
as
a
startup.
You
also
have
limited
information
in
terms
of
what
your
financial
statement
looked
like.
So
what?
What
is
the
caveat
that
we
are
creating
within
this
program
so
that,
if
you
are
a
startup
you
have
all
you
have?
Is
the
cash
that
you
probably
put
up
on
to
develop
right,
right
or
You?
Probably
have
your
house
so
I'm
wondering
what
are
now
the
collateral
Frameworks
that
will
exist
for
a
startup.
I
Thank
you,
Senator
Neal,
for
the
question
for
the
record
Mindy
Elliott
on
the
collateral
support
program
that
works
with
the
financial
institutions,
the
credit
unions
and
the
banks.
If
there
is
a
collateral
shortfall
need
on
a
on
a
loan,
a
structured
loan,
a
regular
loan
small
business
loan.
If
they're
going
to
the
bank,
the
community
development
financial
institutions,
which
Nevada
has
not
had
many
of
we
have
not,
it's
not
been
a
robust
industry.
I
Part
of
why
we
developed
the
partnership
with
the
cdfis
was
because
they
could
take
that
risk.
They
are
not
they.
They
don't
have
the
monitoring
that
the
that
the
banks
do
so
they
have
the
ability
and
they
are
designed
to
take
the
risk.
That's
exactly
what
they're
there,
for
they
have
the
ability
to
apply
for
Grants.
They
have
the
ability
to
go
to
the
SBA
and
get
lines
of
credits,
and
then
they'll
be
utilizing
our
funds
so
that
they
can
take
the
risk
with
those
small
businesses
that
are
just
starting
out.
I
I
call
them
the
the
Mom
and
Pops
in
the
in
the
garage
they
have
a.
They
want
to
move
now,
but
they
they
were
baking.
Cakes
in
the
garage
and
now
they
want
to
move
and
actually
go
into
a
storefront.
They
need
that
Capital
to
either
get
equipment
or
to
expand
the
city
of
FIS.
Are
there
to
help
them
access
to
Capital
you?
I
You
helped
approve
some
funding
from
the
Attorney
General's
office
to
help
Access
Capital
get
stood
up
as
a
cdfi
in
Nevada,
and
those
robust
dollars
are
going
to
help
us
leverage
the
ssbci
dollars
so
that
those
micro,
small
businesses
that
need
less
than
250
000.
Really
in
my
eye,
it's
it's
less
than
200
000
that
they
will
have
the
ability
to
access
the
dollars,
not
only
the
ssbci
dollars,
but
the
cdfi
dollars
that
the
banks
provide
CRA
dollars
into
there's.
I
F
A
Yeah
we're
going
to
Carson
now
Senator,
kokitia
and
I
believe
Senator
Tatro
after
thank
you.
D
Thank
you
chair,
just
real
quick
in
this.
What's
the
max
number.
J
The
in
the
small
business
I
see
the
category
I'm
guessing
it's
10
to
50,
but
then
also
the
max
loan
amount
and
what
the.
I
For
the
record
Mindy
Elliott
On
The
Lending
side,
the
maximum
number
of
employees
is
500.
The
maximum
loan
amount
is
capped
at
five
million
dollars
per
treasury's
requirements.
Our
default
rate
on
the
original
ssbci
1.0,
you
heard
Mr
Carson
we
had
in
excess
of
approximately
60
million
dollars
deployed.
We
lost
seven
thousand
dollars,
then
the
whole
term,
from
2011
through
year
to
date.
B
F
You
thank
you
Mr,
chair,
I,
have
a
question
for
me.
Go
ahead.
Thank
you.
My
question
is
as
we
look
at
this
and
it
looks
like
there's
going
to
be
three
three-year
programs
moving
forward
and
just
some
of
the
language
we're
looking
at
in
the
highlights
here
now.
It
looks
like
you
have
to
have
80
percent
of
it
in
the
first
for
the
first
cycle,
the
first
three
years
not
only
distributed,
but
you
have
to
have
it
expanded
now
does
expanded
mean
obligated
or
spent.
F
Just
obligated
so
and
then
you
move
into
the
next
cycle,
then
you
don't
as
long
as
you
obligate
it.
It's
fine,
because
I
was
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
language
here,
in
the
end
that
you
know
you
could
be,
you
know
deallocated
or
they
could
withdraw
the
funds
and
you'd
be
part
way
into
it.
If,
if
you
hadn't
met
that
criteria,
those
guidelines,
but
it
just
means
obligated,
so
you
should
be
able
to
make
that
happen.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair.
L
L
You
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
ask
your
question
and
I
I.
Think
I
need
some
additional
clarification
a
little
bit
along
the
same
line
that
Senator
gokuccio
was
asking
about
timelines
on
this
I
understand.
This
is
basically
based
on
the
information
we
have
about
a
third
of
what
the
potential
money
is
and
are
we
do.
We
have
to
have
this
obligated
then,
within
10
years,
when
could
we
go
back
and
get
the
second
or
the
two-thirds
that
are
remainder?
Is
it
just
a
obligation
for
this
35
million?
J
This
customize
the
photo
record.
It's
a
it's,
a
very
good
question,
so
how
this
program
works
is
we
have,
in
our
work
program,
outlined
a
potential
total,
which
is
around
105
million
dollars?
There's
an
addition
to
that:
a
an
incentive
for
the
social
economic
disadvantage,
individual
run
small
businesses
if
we
make
if
we
make
that
or
if
we
fulfill
these
goals.
J
If
you
meet
those
goals,
we
can
go
up
as
as
high
as
112.9
million,
so
I'm
almost
113
13
million,
but
what
we
are
needed,
but
all
these
incentive
onlys
kick
in
after
the
second
of
second
and
third
trance.
So
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
have
to
take
the
105
million
divided
by
three
in
the
that's
for
the
first
charge,
the
first
tranche
runs
for
three
years.
J
We
need
to
obligate
those
funds
up
to
a
or
we
have
to
reach
a
minimum
of
eighty
percent
to
start
drawing
down
the
second
range
which
equal
in
equal
amounts
another
third,
so
to
speak,
and
so
this
time
around
compared
to
last
time
there
is
a
clawback
from
the
federal
government.
So
we
have
an
incentive
to
deploy
fast.
Last
time
there
was
a
theoretical
clawback,
but
States
didn't
lose
the
money.
They
just
took
long
go
this
time
around
because
there's
so
much
money
involved.
We
need
to
get
the
money
out.
J
It
needs
to
be
deployed.
So
we
are
really
looking
at
you
know.
I,
don't
want
to
leave
it
to
the
last
moment
so
close
to
three
years,
but
sooner
deployment
and
and
then
later
to
reach
that
second
tranche.
L
If
it's
100
employees
is
this
money
eligible
for
actual
infrastructure
building
buildings
and
those
type
of
footprints.
I
You
thank
you
Senator
Titus,
for
the
record
Mindy
Elliott
for,
on
a
linen
perspective.
Absolutely
owner
occupied
buildings
has
been
one
of
the
sweet
spots
that
we've
had.
We
can
be
a
sidecar
too
at
SBA
504
program
during
the
construction
phase.
It
helps
a
smaller
financial
institutions
compete.
It
helps
them
with
their
Capital
requirements.
I
So
for
us,
we've
been
able
to
provide
SBA
504
support
out
in
Elko
in
in
Las
Vegas
North
Las
Vegas
throughout
the
state
and
absolutely
the
owner-occupied
properties
is
something
that
we
are
hopefully
going
to
be
even
doing
more
of
through
this
through
the
expenditure
of
these
funds.
Thank.
L
You
and
along
that
same
line,
then,
if
we're
looking
at
actual
infrastructure
and
some
of
those
things
I
have
a
concern
about
the
requirements,
will
there
be
any
mandates
for
plas
in
these
requirements?
Are
you
folks,
looking
at
setting
anything
up
like
that,
because
I
have
concerns
regarding
that
or
is
there
no
attachment
at
this
point.
I
I
I'm,
sorry
for
the
record,
Mindy
Elliott
assembly,
woman,
Titus,
I
missed
the
last
part,
maybe
I'm
the
only
one
that
missed
it.
Yeah.
L
I'm
concerned
that
in
our
infrastructure,
Bank
that
was
funded
this
last
round
and
through
ledgecom
and
one
of
the
requirements
that
was
mandated
was
Project
labor
agreements
for
that
monies
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
seeing
that
there's
something
here
more
than
what
we're
seeing.
I
wanna
I
wanna
make
sure
on
record
that
at
this
point
in
time,
it's
not
going
to
be
associated
with
mandatory
for
for
funding.
You
have
to
have
plas.
L
When
I
read
this
report,
it
says
some
of
this
eligibility
would
be
determined
at
a
future
date
and
I
just
want
to
know.
Are
we
going
to
be
part
of
determining
what
the
eligibility
is?
What
other
requirements
going
to
be
to
to
access
this
money,
conceptually
I'm,
supportive
of
it?
But
what
strings
are
attached.
I
Assembly,
woman
Titus
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
your
question.
Mindy
Elliott,
the
we
are,
as
we
are
a
support.
This
program
is
designed
as
a
support
mechanism
for
the
financial
institutions
in
our
state,
and
at
this
time
there
is
no
requirement
from
treasury
that
there
are
plas
or
any
type
of
other
agreement.
It's
the
the
arrangement
between
the
lender
and
the
borrower
is
with
the
financial
institution
we
simply
provide.
We
are
simply
providing
a
support
mechanism
to
the
bank
so
that
the
borrower
will
have
access
to
the
funds.
J
No,
it's
customizer
for
the
record.
I
would
just
like
to
add
that,
while,
yes,
that
is
you
had,
you
know
a
couple
of
cases
and
where
we,
you
know,
come
alongside
the
504s
for
collateral
support.
J
The
clear
objective
of
the
program
is
to
provide
funding
to
a
small
business
for
operation
expenditure
equipment
expansion
that
can
include.
Yes,
you
know
buildings,
but
that's
not
the
primary
objective
of
of
the
program
and
the
and
the
FEDS
are
very
clear
about
that.
So
it
can
include
it,
but
the
object
is
really
for
you
know:
Machinery
operational
expenditure
and
so
forth.
So
that's
really
the
focus
of
of
the
financing
of
that
of
this
program
across
the
board.
L
Very
good
I
I'm,
very
supportive
of
public-private
Partnerships,
and
it
looks
like
something
we
can
use
in
the
state
even
more,
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation
today.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
quick
question.
While
I'm
looking
to
see,
if
there's
anybody
else
wishing
to
ask
questions,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
you
reach
out
to
folks?
You
know
what
kind
of
Outreach
effort
do
you
have
so
that
folks
find
out
about
this
program.
J
Yeah,
that's
good
question
Carson
Heiser
for
the
record,
so
the
Outreach
effort
really
is
twofold.
J
When,
if
you
think
about
it,
how
the
you
know
the
program
is
structured
as
Miss
Alia
deluded
to
we
are
working
with
lenders,
so
the
Outreach
strategy
does
consist
of
Outreach
to
lenders.
That's
you
know,
call
it
cdfis
Credit
Unions.
We
have
already
started
work
on
that
Banks,
and
that
is
you
know,
through
information
sessions
through
conferences,
you
know
probably
webinars
and
direct
visits.
They
have
been
proven
incredibly
effective,
that's
one
type
of
conversation,
but
then
don't
forget
the
the
end.
J
J
We
will
be
working
with
a
Small,
Business,
Development
Center
and
that
technical
assistance
component
feeds
into
and
as
directly
has
to
connect
with
the
with
the
ssbci
program
proper.
So
this
is
an
Outreach
mechanism.
How
we
reach.
You
know
the
the
end
customers
and
then
you
know
we
work
with
our
support
organizations.
You
know
we
had
today.
Mr
can
Evans
call
in
you
know
former
president
of
the
urban
chamber,
other
Chambers,
especially
minority
Chambers.
J
We
don't
forget,
we
have
a
large
portion
of
social
economic
disadvantage,
individual
around
small
businesses
that
we
need
to.
We
need
to
support
and
we
do
that
through
the
through
the
chambers.
Our
office
is
organized
through
that
you
know
collaboration
with
the
regional
development
authorities.
J
You
had
calls
today
from
from
the
city
Mr
Ryan
Smith
called
in
so
we
are
talking
to
you
know
to
cities,
make
them
aware
the
the
universities,
the
General
support
organizations
for
the
you
know,
the
entrepreneurial,
the
entrepreneurial
groups.
You
had
server
V
calling
in
today.
So
all
this
is
a
there's,
no,
no
clear
answer,
but
it's
you
know
highly
targeted
and
incredibly
Broad
and
consistent
over
time.
J
It's
not
the
one
shot
it's
over
time
over
the
three
years
that
outrage.
F
I
have
a
second
Mr
chair,
Cindy
Senator,.
F
What
I
thought
I
heard
is
this
money
is
really
there
to
invest
in
equipment
in
an
inventory
to
get
a
small
business
off
the
ground,
getting
up
them
up
and
running
to
the
point
where
they
then
can
qualify
for
a
private
sector
loan
and
move
forward.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
end
up
where
we're
saying
hey,
you
can
have
up
to
five
million
dollars,
and
so
A
lender
will
come
in
they've
got
a
five
million
dollar
guarantee,
and
maybe
it
doesn't
end
up
in
the
right
place.
We've
all
seen
that
happen.
F
I
Mr
Heiser
I
could
I
can
answer
the
question.
Thank
you
senator
gokuccio,
for
the
question
for
the
record.
Mindy
Elliott.
Let
me
explain
a
structure
of
a
of
a
of
a
loan
that
would
that
would
support
a
piece
of
equipment
with
the
ssbci
collateral
support
loan
participation
program.
I
The
bank
will
move
from
70
percent
loan
to
value
to
a
hundred
percent
loan
to
value,
so
the
borrower
doesn't
have
to
come
out
of
pocket
with
any
additional
funds.
The
same
with
and
I'll
stop
there.
But
that's.
The
goal
is
really
to
help
the
banks
get
to
yes,
but,
more
importantly,
help
the
borrower
get
this
the
tools
that
they
need
to
be
successful.
So
it
depends
on
the
structure
and
each
loan
is
unique,
but
we've
been
very
successful.
I
In
providing
100
of
financing
on
equipment,
we've
been
able
to
improve
accounts,
receivable
lines
of
credits,
the
advance
rate,
so
that
borrowers
have
more
Capital
can
hire
more
people
and
get
the
job
done,
especially
on
the
construction
industry
as
they're
growing.
They
need
additional
Capital,
so
we're
able
to
provide
additional
collateral
to
the
financial
institutions
so
that
they
can
provide
more
lending
capabilities
to
those
borrowers.
I
hope
I'm
not
confusing
you,
but
it
really
is
a
case-by-case
basis
as
we
deploy
these
funds.
My.
I
It's
for
the
record,
Mindy
Elliott.
Thank
you,
senator
gokuccia,
for
the
for
the
question,
the
the
this,
the
state
investment
that
we
will
be
or
the
sspci
dollars
that
are
going
into
any
type
of
credit
facility.
They
are
the
first
in
and
they
are
the
last
out.
I
So
if
there
is
a
default,
that's
why
our
record
is
so
good.
We
have
such
a
de
venomous
amount
of
of
a
default.
Is
the
banks
have
to
go
through
the
entire
process?
Whatever
collateral
they've
accepted,
whether
it's
piece
of
equipment
or
a
UCC
one?
The
banks
have
to
work
through
all
of
their
default
mechanisms
first
before
they
could
come
to
the
bank
and
request
those
final
dollars
and
we're
only
in
at
a
rate
of
it's
a
percentage.
I
So
if
we
put
in
30
percent,
though
our
loss
is,
is
shrunk
to
only
30
percent,
of
whatever
the
residual
loss
is
and
that's
why
the
program
has
been
has
worked
so
well
for
the
state
previously,
and
now
it's
going
to
work
well
for
the
nonprofit
is
because
of
that
structure.
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
I
got
one
more
follow-up
for
somebody,
but
anybody
anybody
else:
okay,
not
hearing
any
Senator
Neil
you
want
to
you've
said
you
had
a
quick
question
and
then
we'll
move
on.
C
I
Thank
you,
Senator
Neil
for
the
question,
Mindy
Elliott
for
the
record.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
we
created
the
cdfi
component,
because
those
are
for
loans
that
are
250,
000
or
less
so
for
someone
that
needs
fifty
thousand
thirty
thousand
ten
thousand
to
get
started.
Those
aren't
the
type
of
credit
facilities
normally
that
a
financial
institution
or
even
a
credit
union
would
want
to
look
at
because
of
the
the
amount
of
work.
It's
a
lot
of
work
to
work
with
that
borrower
work
with
them.
I
I
So
that's
why
we
designed
zero
to
250
is
really
what
that
cdfi
program
and
then
anything
greater
than
250
000
to
5
million
dollars
will
work
with
the
with
the
large
financial
institutions.
So
someone
that's
designing
clothes
or
someone,
that's
baking,
cakes
or
someone.
That's
trying
to
build
a
auto
mechanic
business
is,
they
would
probably
start
with
the
cdf5.
First
and
then,
depending
on
how
robust
that
business
becomes,
they
could
either
go
to
the
Venture
Capital
site
or
they
could
go
to
a
financial
institution.
I
We
really
did
try
to
create
a
linear
lending
capability
for
the
state
of
Nevada.
Will
we
be
all
things
to
all
people,
I
hope
so,
but
maybe
not,
but
the,
but
the
goal
is
to
really
try
to
meet
the
needs
of
of
the
lending
needs
of
the
state
at
this
time,
and
the
good
news
is:
is
that
the
pro
the
program
is
valuable
enough?
If
we
need
to
change
it,
we
have
the
ability
to
provide
modifications
in
the
future.
This
is
a
10-year
program.
I
So
what
the
state
looks
like
today,
May
looks
different
in
five
years
and
we
can
provide
that
modification
if
we
need
to,
but
right
now
the
program
design,
the
way
that
Mr
heisen
the
governor
and
the
governor's
office
of
economic
development
director
Brown.
We
really
thought
that
creating
this
linear
opportunity
would
work
best
for
the
businesses
that
are
in
need
of
financial
support.
Right
now
and
I
hope,
I
answered
your
question.
C
A
All
right,
let's
I,
think
we've
discussed
this
enough.
Let's
go
on
and
I'm
going
to
ask
Vice
chair
Carlton
if
she
would
make
a
motion.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
from
Senator
canizarro
Is.
There
further
discussion
on
the
motion,
all
right,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
raise
your
hand
hi.
Thank
you
hi.
Thank
you
any
opposed,
say
May
right.
The
motion
carries
item.
C11
is
approved.
Those
are
all
the
items
under
C.
Let's
go
now
to
item
number
D
on
the
agenda
statement
of
contingency
account,
balance,
Mr,
Thorley.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
Wayne
Thorley
for
the
record,
LCB
fiscal.
You
can
find
the
contingency
account
balance
statement
in
your
meeting
packet
again,
there's
no
phys,
there's
no
blue
books
for
this
meeting.
The
meeting
materials
are
online
on
the
website.
D
D
We
are
still
in
that
kind
of
shoulder
period
between
fiscal
years
between
the
close
of
FY
22
and
then
the
current
fiscal
year
fy23.
So
the
statement
includes
both
amounts
from
22
and
23..
The
summary
chart
on
page
119
shows
the
balance
prior
to
any
actions
of
the
committee
today.
So
that's
about
the
fourth
line
from
the
bottom.
D
If
so,
prior
to
the
action
of
the
committee
today,
there's
about
21.8
million
dollars
in
the
contingency
account.
That's
made
up
of
9.6
million
dollars
in
the
unrestricted
general
fund
portion,
1.6
million
dollars
in
the
unrestricted
Highway
fund
portion
and
then
about
10.6
million
dollar
in
the
restricted
general
fund
and
Highway
fund
portion.
D
There
is
one
request
for
an
allocation
from
the
IFC
contingency
account
before
the
committee
today
for
225
000
591
dollars
that
would
come
out
of
the
unrestricted
general
fund
portion.
If
that
is
approved,
the
remaining
balance
going
forward
and
the
IFC
contingency
account
would
be
just
under
21.6
million
dollars
and
Mr
chair
I'll
leave
it
at
that
and
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
members
might
have
regarding
the
contingency
account
balance
statement.
A
Not
seeing
any
and
not
hearing
any,
this
is
an
informational
item
only
so
no
voters
required
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
item
number
D
and
we
will
move
on
to
item
number
e
reconsideration
of
request
for
allocation
from
the
IFC
contingency
account.
A
As
you
recall
at
our
last
meeting,
and
this
came
up
and
we
were
requesting
information
and
trying
to
get
understand
wanting
it
to
happen
and
we've
been
able
to
get
some
additional
information.
Since
we've
brought
this
back
before
you
today
and
I
believe
we
have
here
director,
Marcy
Ripa.
A
M
Thank
you
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
at
the
department.
We
appreciate
this
consideration
or
reconsideration
of
this
request
and
just
as
a
brief
synopsis
ab81,
which
was
passed
in
2019
required
All
Counties
to
create
plans
for
the
provision
of
indigent
defense
services
to
comply
with
minimum
standards
for
Indigent
defense.
M
This
legislature
knew
that
bringing
those
counties
into
compliance
would
likely
cost
many
of
these
counties,
especially
those
rural
counties,
more
money
than
they're
already
spending
on
Indigent
defense,
so
the
legislature
granted
the
authority
to
the
board
on
Indigent
defense
to
create
a
formula
for
the
maximum
amount
that
a
county
can
pay
for
Indigent
defense
services.
Our
request
today
is
to
request
reimbursement
for
fiscal
year
22,
which
is
now
at
the
close
for
funds
that
were
expended
by
Elko
and
story
to
specifically
comply
with
these
regulations
and
these
minimum
standards
and
we're
over
their
maximum
contribution.
M
So
specifically
for
Elko
County
The
increased
expenses
were
related
to
steps.
They
took
to
increase
pay
for
public
defenders
to
provide
parity
to
the
district
attorneys,
hiring
three
additional
attorneys
in
the
public
defender's
offices
to
handle
the
increased
workload
and
Story
County
hired
an
appointed
Council
administrator.
So
we
created
that
separation
from
the
Judiciary.
So
if
you
have
any
further
questions,
I
am
available
to
answer
them.
A
K
You
Mr
chair,
I,
appreciate
it
and,
and
take
you
to
the
department
for
providing
some
additional
information.
I
think
where
this
this
has
gotten
tricky
is.
Obviously
we
have
the
Davis
counties
which
were
obligated
to
spend
money,
for
we
have
done
that
in
terms
of
putting
aside
restricted
funds
for
that
department.
Anything
over
and
above
that
is
sort
of
coming
out
of
the
IFC
contingency
fund
balance
for
unrestricted
funds,
which
realistically
I
think
as
we
know,
and
are
sort
of
going
through
this
moving
forward
that
those
funds
in
the
unrestricted
category
one.
K
We
need
to
have
good
documentation
and
and
back
up
for
those
funds,
because
otherwise
I
think
this
becomes
almost
like
a
slush
fund.
That
is
not
designed
to
be
right.
The
IFC
contingency
fund
is
not
designed
to
be
just
a
place
where
we're
just
going
to
Dole
out
money
right.
It's
to
cover
unexpected
things
that
kind
of
come
up
and
give
us
that
flexibility
to
to
operate
so
I
think
that
is
where
it
gets
trickier
with
the
non-davis
counties.
K
Only
because
of
we
had
set
aside
specific
monies
in
hopes
of
covering
that
full
amount
for
those
Davis
counties.
Obviously
outgoing
story
fall
under
non-davis
counties,
so
we
just
always
have
to
have
good
information
moving
forward
with
that
and
I
think
also
just
as
a
side
note
for
the
upcoming
legislative
session.
Realistically,
we
should
be
building
these
into
budgets
so
that
it
is
a
budgetary
amount
that
the
state
is
contributing
and
not
sort
of
coming
before
IFC,
because
we
have
to
be
kind
of
careful
of
that.
K
Otherwise
I
think
we
open
up
a
situation
where
IFC
is
is
sort
of
doing
something
that
was
not
designed
to
do
so.
I
would
just
kind
of
put
a
little
pin
in
that
regarding
moving
forward
with
these
types
of
of
requests,
because
I
do
think,
while
we're
very
clear
on
on
where
Davis
County
stands
and
where
we
would
need
to
to
step
in
to
fill
where
we
didn't
allocate
enough
for
the
non-davis
counties.
That's
a
little
bit
trickier.
K
So
I
have
some
questions
because,
like
we
mentioned,
we
had
requested
additional
information
from
the
Department
to
sort
of
help
us
to
get
information
from
the
counties
to
back
up
what
the
requests
that
we
had
received
for
both
Elko
and
for
story
and
I
understand
we.
We
have
some
information
for
Elko
and,
for
example,
I
think.
Originally,
there
was
a
significant
number
of
items.
K
A
significant
number
of
dollars
excuse
me
that
were
classified
as
just
supplies
or
other
without
further
delineation
as
to
what
those
amounts
were
being
utilized
for
the
there
were
also
some
particular
I
guess:
itemized
things
in
in
bigger
buckets
like
social
workers,
travel
and
training
and
we're
seeing
some
differences
between
what
had
originally
been
sort
of
submitted
to
us
and
then
what
was
proposed
with
the
backup
documentation.
So,
for
example,
when
I'm
talking
about
the
supplies
and
the
other
piece,
those
were
originally
requested
as
part
of
the
submittal
back
in
August.
K
In
the
new
revised
total,
there
are
no
supplies
and
no
other
dollars,
and
rather
there's
sort
of
been
a
reallocation
of
of
different
dollars.
Among
things
like
investigators,
interpreter
evaluations,
we
didn't
see
interpreter
evaluations
in
the
first
request,
but
now
we're
seeing
that
money
in
interpreters
and
evaluations
we
saw
an
increase
in
the
amount
requested
for
experts,
an
increase
in
the
amount
requested
for
investigators,
an
increase
in
the
amount
requested
for
staff
and
contract
attorney
costs,
but,
conversely,
originally
request
for
administrative
staff.
Now,
there's
no
request
for
that.
K
Ultimately,
I
think
that
makes
it
also
a
little
more
difficult
when
we
are
receiving
one
set
of
numbers
and
asking
for
additional
documentation
and
then
receiving
a
different
set
of
numbers,
and
that
I
think
gives
me
at
least
some
concern
when
we're
talking
about
allocating
money
through
the
contingency
fund.
K
So
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
it
is
that
the
department
does
to
audit
or
otherwise
ensure
accurate
and
consistent
reporting
for
those
eligible
County
reimbursement
requests
for
those
costs
in
Access
of
the
calculated
maximum
contribution
and
what
you're
doing
to
kind
of
track
those?
Why
we're
seeing
these
different
numbers?
Now
that
we've
asked
for
that
additional
information.
M
Thank
you,
Marcy
Riva,
for
the
record
through
the
chair
to
Senator
kanazaro.
Those
are
really
great
observations
that
you
have
and
we
are
striving
to
work
with
the
counties
to
get
more
accurate
data.
One
issue
that
we're
having
is
that
we're
an
extremely
small
Department,
we're
created
in
2019
and
the
size
of
our
department,
did
not
increase
in
the
last
legislative
session,
so
we
do
not
necessarily
have
a
fiscal
department
and
we're
relying
on
the
good
faith
of
the
county
when
we
ask
them
to
certify
that
these
records
are
actually
true
and
correct.
M
The
other
issue
that
we've
had
with
Elco
and
I
did
reach
out
to
Elko,
specifically,
is
the
county
leadership
and
the
controller's
office
changed
in
December.
It
seemed
that
they
had
one
individual.
That
was
there
that
filled
out
the
form
and
when
the
new
individual
took
over,
she
didn't
have
access
to
any
of
the
paperwork
that
was
filled
out
previously
and
when
she
went
through
line
by
line,
she
gave
us
the
new
and
updated
information.
The
reason
that
the
totals
are
differently
different
is
because
was
with
our
prior
IFC
request.
M
Our
reporting
deadline
ended
on
June
15th
after
June
15th
attorneys
technically
have
under
the
statute,
I
believe
up
to
60
days
to
submit
their
bills,
so
additional
bills
were
received
after
that
closing
date,
and
those
bills
are
included
in
that
most
recent
amount
that
we're
showing
you
today
in
that
updated
amount
and
that's
why
it
increased
from
the
217
to
I
believe
the
238,
those
additional
billing
that
they
had
after
the
close
another
issue
is,
is
that
we've
been
talking
to
the
rural
counties
that
form
for
them
to
report?
M
Their
expenses
is
something
that
our
our
department
put
together.
We
were
trying
to
catch
all
funds
that
we
thought
would
be
spent
on
indigenous
defense
and
we're
trying
to
break
it
down
to
make
it
clear
for
them
to
be
able
to
fill
it
out
and
in
talking
to
the
counties
about
filling
out
that
form
it.
It
seemed
like
the
form
needed
to
be
modified,
so
we
actually
did
modify
the
form
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
to
try
and
lump
things
together.
M
We're
going
to
lump
in
together
the
cost
of
the
entire
Nevada
state
public
defender
expenses.
The
cost
of
the
entire
county
office
for
the
salaried,
rather
than
ask
them
to
break
it
down
to
supplies
and
other
things
and
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
get
a
lot
better
data.
If
we
ask
them
to
lump
that
in
so,
we
are
doing
training
where
we're
reaching
out
to
each
of
the
counties.
We
are
a
brand
new
Department.
M
This
is
a
brand
new
requirement
and
we're
really
hoping
to
get
the
buy-in
of
these
rural
counties,
especially
considering
we
didn't
necessarily
have
the
budgeted
amount
to
be
able
to
reimburse
them.
That
was
part
of
the
pushback
that
we
received
as
well
is
that
this
was
likely
going
to
be
an
unfunded
mandate.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
tension
was
taken
as
needed,
but
I
did
reach
out
to
Elko
County.
K
And
I
appreciate
that
and
I
certainly
hope.
K
You
know
that
when
we
are
talking
about
counties
who
would
be
receiving
State
money
in
order
to
provide
what
are
do
so
we're
very
clear
here,
various
Central
Services
that
I
think
no
one
here
and
certainly
not
myself,
thinks
we
shouldn't
be
providing
and
shouldn't
be
ensuring
that
are
being
provided,
especially
in
the
rules
where
it
can
be
more
difficult
to
obtain
all
of
the
things
that
go
along
with
the
defense
of
a
case
from
lawyers
to
social
workers,
to
interpreters
Etc
that,
hopefully
there
is
some
incentive
there
to
at
least
provide
us
with
the
documentation
and
the
information
that
we
need.
K
Moving
forward
again.
I
think
the
issue
for
at
least
the
issue
for
me
and
the
issue
for
some
of
you
know
working
with
our
fiscal
staff
to
kind
of
figure
out.
What
is
what
it
is
that
we're
being
asked
to
compensate
for
is
that
there's
one
there's
a
very
clear
line
for
for
Davis
counties
and
where
the
state's
obligation
is
there
and
that's
why
that
money
was
was
set
aside
as
restricted
funds.
Obviously,
anything
over
and
above
that
I
think
was
very
easy
for
us
to
see.
K
Okay,
we
didn't
budget
enough
in
that
particular
Bill
to
put
in
so
IFC.
Contingency
funds
would
apply
in
a
situation
like
this,
where
there
aren't
Davis
counties
and
we
haven't
set
aside
the
money.
It's
particularly
important
that
we
have
very
good
documentation
and
so,
to
the
extent
that
this
really
should
look
like
and
I'll.
Certainly,
you
know
happy
to
help.
If
there's
anything
that
you
know
we
can
do
to
help
the
department
come
up
with
some
of
these
best
practices,
because
I
think
from
an
IFC
and
from
a
budgeting
standpoint.
K
What
we
typically
see
are
line
items
where
this
is
what
was
spent
on
you
know
in
supplies
is
like
a
legitimate
expense,
but
like
this
is
how
much
was
spent
on
supplies.
Here's
how
much
was
spent
on
interpreters,
here's
what
we
spent
on
you
know
actual
attorneys,
here's
what
we
spent
on
travel
to
get
to
court,
and
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
the
more
that
that
is
detailed
and
we
can
identify
those.
Then
it
is
easier
for
us
to
justify
spending
that
money.
K
Both
in
an
IFC
context
and
also
next
session,
because
I
I
do
again
just
want
to
reiterate
that
this
really
should
be
a
budget
item
for
the
department,
so
that
this
is
money
that
the
department
is
facilitating
through
its
budget
processes
to
get
that
money
to
the
counties
rather
than
come
through
IFC
contingency
funds,
because
that's
just
that's
just
not
how
we
operate
operate
with
these
with
these
kinds
of
situations
that
said,
I
had
one
other
question
on
the
specifics
here,
because
we
had
gotten
and
I
understand
the
point
about
the
deadlines.
K
So
that
makes
sense.
However,
I
think
that
may
need
to
be
addressed
as
well,
because
we
need
to
have
accurate
information
if
we're
going
to
also
be
asked
to
provide
money
from
a
contingency
balance
in
the
future
as
well.
That's
all
information
that
we
very
much
have
to
have
and
should
be
consistent
when
we
get
it.
K
And
so,
if
we
have
to
work
on
deadlines,
then
then
maybe
that's
something
to
look
into
as
well,
but
that
difference
of
the
19
000
nineteen
thousand
504
dollars
mine.
My
understanding
is
that
your
process
requires
you
to
go
through
the
the
board
of
examiners,
and
that
was
not
that
part
of
it
was
not
part
of
the
approval
through
the
board
of
examiners.
M
Thank
you,
Marcy
Riva,
for
the
record
shared
to
Senator
canizarro.
You
are
exactly
right.
That
was
not
part
of
the
request
to
the
board
of
examiners.
Again
part
of
the
issue
that
we
had
was
that
change
in
leadership
in
Elko
County,
where
the
first
two
months
were
filled
out
by
another
individual
and
the
last
two
two
months
were
filled
out
by
the
new
leadership
there.
M
We
have
talked
to
them
we're
trying
to
modify
our
form.
We
appreciate
all
of
your
great
ideas
and-
and
we
have
strongly
encouraged
these
rural
counties
to
create
a
separate
line.
Item
budget.
As
you
know,
many
of
these
expenses
previously
were
paid
out
of
the
Court
budget
and
trying
to
unravel
that
and
pull
that
into
a
separate
budget
is
something
that
we're
doing
with
our
campaign
of
Education.
When
we
go
over
to
these
counties
and
sit
down
and
talk
with
them.
M
So
just
having
the
rural
counties
understand
exactly
what
you
said
is
is
our
main
goal.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
catching
everything
that
is
an
indigen
defense
expense.
We
are
working
on
on
the
four
terms
and
we're
working
on
the
education,
and
you
are
correct
that
that
last
report
did
come
in
after
the
deadline,
but
the
individual
that
I
was
I
was
talking
to
just
was
unable
to
take
those
expenses
out
because
of
her
own
internal
deadlines
that
she
had
to
do
for
other
accounting
deadlines.
A
G
A
Okay,
so
let
me
go
back
to
Senator
canizarro
Germany
any.
Do
you
have
a
motion
that
you'd
like
to
put
forth
now
that
we've
heard
this
information.
F
I
would
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
two
item:
two.
We
were
asking
for
better
information.
We
got
it
yeah,
I
I
realized.
There's
a
nineteen
thousand
dollar
discrepancy
there,
but
clearly
it
appears
to
be
owed.
A
Appreciate
that
so
I'm
not
going
to
take
the
motion
yet
I
I
had
asked
Senator
canizarro.
If
she
would
comment
on
what
she
thinks
of
the
motion
since
she's
the
one.
That's
really
asked
kind
of
driven
the
questions
on
this.
So
before
I
take
a
motion.
Let
me
go
to
Senator
back
to
senator
connazzaro.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
and
I
apologize
I.
Think
I
didn't
hit
my
a
mute
button
quite
fast
enough
there.
K
You
know
I,
think
that
in
my
in
my
estimation,
what
we
should
also
include,
because
part
of
the
issue
with
this
particular
request
is
just
meaning
to
have
some
better
information
for
us
in
order
to
to
make
that
allocation,
because
again,
I
think
that
the
non-davis
counties
have
have
a
sort
of
a
different
situation
based
on
how
we
allocated
money
last
session,
and
so
I
would
also
I
would
ask
to
approve
the
initial
request
for
the
allocation
of
the
225
591
from
the
IFC
contingency
account
to
reimburse
both
Elko
and
story
counties
for
costs
in
excess
of
the
maximum
contribution
amount
for
the
provision
of
indigent
defense
services.
K
B
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could
interrupt
briefly
I
believe
the
processes
that
we
would
need
to
re
reconsider.
The
previous
action
which
we
took
before
we
take
a
motion
in
a
second,
with
the
excellent
explanation
that
Senator
canizero
just
gave.
So,
if
you
would
accept
the
motion
to
reconsider,
I
would
be
happy
to
take
care
of
that.
For
you.
A
F
A
Opposed
to
say,
Nick,
can
you
post
say
nay.
Thank
you.
Okay.
The
motion
carries
okay.
Now,
let's
begin
now,
Senator
kanazaro
had
mentioned
some
things
that
in
in
a
motion,
kind
of
the
form
of
emotion,
it's
just
so
I'm
clear
before
I
take
a
second
Senator
canizarro.
You
were
suggesting
that
we
approved
the
original
amount.
A
Sorry,
I'm
reading
notes
from
stuff
you,
you
were
suggesting
that
we
do
the
original
amount
and
then
have
them
come
back
for
the
difference
is
that
what
I
heard
yes.
K
K
A
Okay
and
then
you
also
had
some
additional
things
on
there
and
Reporting
and
things
that
they
need
to
great.
So
so,
I
I
heard
a
motion
from
Senator
canisaro.
Second
from.
B
Under
comment,
with
the
caveat
that
the
the
long
list
of
items
that
the
senator
spoke
about
that
we
we
received
those
line
item
details
on
the
expenditures
that
make
up
those
categorical
amounts.
You
know
the
breakdown
of
the
billable
hours
for
the
contract,
attorneys
investigators,
interpreters
and
also
you
know,
staff
hours
charged
and
the
breakdown
of
discretionary
expenses
with
travel,
training
supplies
miscellaneous
a
true
line
item,
so
that
our
folks
can
analyze
it
and
make
sure
that
everything
is
appropriate
in
using
these
State
dollars
towards
this
program.
Okay,.
F
F
We
were
asking
for
more
information
when
we
denied
this
the
last
time,
we've
got
significantly
more
better
numbers
now
than
we
had
and
I
guess,
I'm
just
struggling,
why
we
would
penalize
them
that
additional
twenty
thousand
dollars,
understanding,
full
and
well
that
going
forward.
We
need
to
do
a
better
job
with
the
accounting,
but
again
we're
we're
singling
out
one
County
and
it
happens
to
be
one
that
I
represent
I'm,
sorry,
but
and
it's
only
twenty
thousand
dollars,
but
it's
just
what's
right's
right.
K
B
And
Mr
chairman,
if
I
may
just
a
point
of
clarification,
we
did
receive
more
documents
from
Alco
County.
We
received
nothing
from
Story
County,
so
there's
still
some
outlying
information
that
we
did
not
receive
so
I
want
to
make
sure
the
record's
correct.
Yes,
we
did
receive
it
from
Elco
story.
We
didn't
get
anything.
So
there
is
still
an
issue
out
there.
A
A
Hearing
none
all
those
in
favor
the
motion
say
I
or
raise
your
hand,
any
opposed,
say
May.
F
A
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
the
the
motion
carries
and
we
will
go
ahead
now
and
go
to
let's
see,
let's
make
sure
I
got
all
that
taken
care
of
there.
Okay
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
just
let
me
double
check
with
staff.
Mr
Thorley
was
the
the
motion
clear
enough.
D
Coming
chair,
we
got
everything
great
thank.
A
You
all
right
so
then,
let's
move
on
to
item
number
F,
Department
of
Business
and
Industry
housing
division.
We
have
an
informational
item
and
I
believe,
let's
see
who
do
we
have
Terry
Reynolds,
the
director
of
the
Department
of
Business
Ministry.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
This
is
Terry
Reynolds
director
for
the
Department
of
Business
and
Industry.
Also
with
me,
is
Michael
Holliday
he's
our
Chief
Financial
Officer
for
the
division
of
housing.
Steve
abecroft
is
on
a
much
needed
vacation
this
week,
so
good
for
him.
He
deserves
it.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I
think
that's
probably
the
the
best
way
to
start.
We
are
probably
at
a
midpoint
in
the
final
application
review
process.
I
can
tell
you
personally.
D
There
are
thousands
of
documents
that
that
we've
had
to
review
as
part
of
this
process
from
the
technical
part
of
that,
though,
I'm
going
to
defer
to
Mr
holiday,
our
Chief
Financial
Officer,
to
go
through
I
have
actually
spent
a
time
to
go
through
the
preliminary
applications
and
the
final
applications.
D
We
are
also
working
with
the
local
governments
and
the
different
Housing
Authority
groups
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we
can
dovetail
our
award
amounts
with
what
they're
awarding
to
when
we
can
basically
layer
funding
for
a
project
and
we're
we're
doing
that
with
the
local
governments.
Clark
County
just
awarded
their
ARP
funding
for
their
projects,
and
we
are
reviewing
those
to
see
where
we
can
help
out
where
we
can
basically
put
funding
with
those
to
make
those
applications
happen.
D
So
with
that
I'm
happy
to
entertain
any
any
questions,
we
we'll
probably
have
this
finalized
by
the
first
week
in
October
to
be
able
to
recommend
final
awards
for
the
projects.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
just
as
a
reminder
to
the
committee
and
anyone
who's
listening
in
this
was
that
we
had
previously
asked
that
the
housing
to
submit
this
report
to
us
so
that
we
can
keep
up
with
what's
going
on
there
is.
Are
there
any
questions
on
this
item?.
A
I'm
not
seeing
any
okay,
it's
an
informational
only
so
we'll.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Reynolds.
Let's
go
on
then
to
item
number
G
Department
of
Motor
Vehicles.
This
also
is
an
informational,
only
item.
This
is
a
report
from
the
DMV
on
the
issuance
of
Technology
fee
refunds.
Now
the
stipulated
agreement
requires
this
report
to
be
submitted
for
each
IFC
meeting
and
it's
under
tab
G
in
the
packet.
So
we
have
Mr
Sean
sever
Deputy
Administrator
for
the
DMV
he's
available.
If
we
have
any
questions.
A
L
So
they
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
actually
it's
more
of
a
comment
and
an
observation
with
all
the
hearings
on
effort
has
gone
into
this
reimbursement
and
knowing
the
lack
of
people
who've
actually
gone
in,
for
that
I
decided.
L
I
would
show
up
in
Carson
City
to
get
my
refund
on
my
like
seven
different
vehicles
that
I
had
on
to
see
what
the
process
was
and
just
be
a
citizen
and
so
I
went
in,
and
there
was
now
that
they
have
only
appointments
only
it's
very
unclear
what
line
to
get
into
because
we
don't
have
an
appointment.
They
don't
call
on
you,
there's
no
sign
that
says
speed.
You
know
Sean.
L
You
assured
that
that
we
didn't
need
to
get
an
appointment
to
get
our
money,
so
I
just
showed
up
there,
but
they
don't
talk
to
you
unless
you
get
into
this
line
and
if
you
don't
have
an
appointment,
everybody
with
appointments
goes
before
you
and
I'm,
just
saying:
hey,
I'm,
just
there
to
get
my
money
after
45
minutes
or
so,
and
so
then
I
did
indeed.
L
Somebody
came
right
over
to
me
once
I
said
what
I
was
there
for,
but
I
still
am
worried
about
the
advertising
and
the
process
for
folks-
and
you
know
they
were
Chris
1.7,
my
seven
one
dollar
bills
that
I
got
or
Chris
like
newly
minted,
and
they
did
apparently
not
they're,
not
for
you
know
fake
or
anything,
so
they
I
spent
them.
L
But
I
just
have
concerns
that
we're
not
doing
a
good
job
marketing
and
there
is
still
hurdles
to
go
to
get
your
monies
and
wondering
if
all
the
offices
have
a
sign,
especially
you've
done
a
well
job.
Publishing
that
you
need
an
appointment
to
be
here.
I
just
don't
think
it's
an
easy
process
to
go
in
if
you
have
something
just
run
and
dash
in
and
get
your
money
for
the
dollar
trip
and
they
missed
one
of
my
dollars
and
they
did
contact
me
afterwards
and
say.
L
D
Yeah
Sean
sever
from
the
Nevada
DMV
for
the
record.
We
did
launch
a
very
extensive
advertising
campaign
on
the
tech
fee
refund.
We
got
a
lot
of
coverage
in
news,
media
and
then
social
media
as
well
and
I.
Think.
The
main
point
is
that
the
customers
are
are
just
not
interested
in
getting
the
tech
fee.
D
We've
even
made
announcements
in
our
lobbies
and
for
people
to
come
over
and
get
their
Tech
fee
while
they
were
waiting
and
people
won't
even
hardly
get
up
across
and
walk
across
a
room
to
get
it.
But.
D
L
Nobody
wants
to
drive
down
there
for
one
dollar,
but
again
it's
not
obvious
that,
while
they're
even
there,
they
could
get
that
money
and
I
know
that
there's
a
time
on
this
right
and
then
it
reverts
back
to
the
funds
on.
So
just
just
wondering
could
you
can
you
tell
me
about
the
time
limit
on
again.
D
Yes,
Sean's
from
the
DMV
for
the
record.
All
funds
remaining
after
June
30th
2023
were
revert
to
the
state
highway
fund.
L
Okay,
thank
you
and
thank
you
Mr
chair
for
allowing
me
to
comment
since
I
did
go
down
and
put
my
time
in
to
see
see
what
this
is
all
about.
For
my
seven
dollars
and
I
do
appreciate.
It
I
appreciate
the
effort
that
the
courts
have
put
into
this,
that
the
original
lawsuit
put
into
this
and
the
time
that
DMV
has
put
into
this,
but
again
just
know
that
a
simple
whiteboard
in
the
front
to
say,
hey
if
you're
here
for
this.
L
This
is
what
you
do
and
and
again,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
I'm
sure
you'll
have
funds
left.
A
Yes,
cinnamon
tolls.
B
Thank
you,
chair
and
I
feel
inspired.
I
gotta
go
get
my
real
ID
and
I'm
gonna
ask
for
your
friend
while
I'm
there,
but
that
does
spark
the
question.
B
Do
they
just
ask
as
an
add-on
when
you're
going
and
doing
your
regular
business
of
registering
a
vehicle
or
getting
your
real
ID
or
anything
like
that?
Is
there
a
mechanism
to
just
while
you're
there
doing
your
business
I
mean
if
we
can
do
automatic
voter
registration?
Why
can't
we
do
just
add
that
on
maybe
you
know
you're
eligible
for
refund.
We.
D
Yeah
once
again,
this
is
Sean
sever
at
the
DMV.
That
was
the
intention
from
the
start.
Is
that
when
people,
because
we
didn't
want
everybody,
rushing
into
the
DMV
to
get
the
refunds
right
away,
so
we
did
ask
that
when
you're
visiting
the
DMV
please
check
on
your
Tech
fee
refund.
At
the
same
time
and
I
think
what
Miss
Titus
was
facing
when
she
came
to
the
DMV
is
in
the
mornings,
it's
very
congested
out
front.
D
A
Mr
sever
real,
quick
Dewey
is
there,
you
know
having
been
recently
into
the
DMV
a
few
times
and
I
know
they
asked
I.
Think
they
ask
God
at
the
very
end.
If
there's
anything
else
that
you
can
do
while
you're
there,
but
they
didn't
specifically
say,
would
you
like
to
do
the
refund?
A
Is
that
something
that
could
be
done
where
they
could
just
say
hey
while
you're
here?
Would
you
like
to
do
the
refund,
because
I
think
we
might
get
better
response
at
a
tail
end
of
a
you
know
if
they're
already
doing
something
else,
as
opposed
to
just
saying
generally,
you
know:
is
there
anything
else.
D
Yes,
Sean
sever
from
the
DMV
and
some
of
the
offices
are
doing
that
Mr
chair,
but
we
can
make
sure
that
all
of
them
are
doing
that
going
forward.
A
That
would
be
a
good
I,
mean
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
would
say
yes,
if,
if
they
dissuaded
or
whatever
and
got
their
appointment
and
came
in
and
redid
their
driver's
license
or
even
if
they
did
it
with
their
child's
whatever
driver's
permit
or
whatever,
and
then
they
could
just
say
hey
while
you're
here.
Do
you
want
to
do
this?
So,
okay,
any
other
questions.
A
Yes,
similar
Monroe
Moreno.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
Mr,
sever
I,
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
kudos
to
your
office
in
North,
Las
Vegas
I
went
in
to
get
my
real
ID
I
had
an
appointment,
I
was
handled
in
a
timely
manner
and
before
I
left
the
desk.
They
asked
me
if
I
wanted
to
make
any
changes
to
my
voter
registration
and,
if
I
wanted
to
receive
the
refund
of
the
cars
that
we
had
I
refused.
The
refund
didn't
feel
it
was
necessary,
but
thank
you.
It
is
happening
in
some
offices,
so
I
appreciate
it.
A
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
would
and
I
would
mention
that
the
I
think
there's
probably
less
complaints
now
that
everybody,
even
though
people
complain
about
having
to
have
an
appointment,
I,
think
the
bigger
complaints
was
before,
where
they
would
wait,
trying
to
get
something
and
then
it
would
they
they
might
wait
hours
and
hours
and
then
still
not
get
in
that
day
and
have
to
come
back
on
a
different
day.
So
I
think
that's
it's
going
to
be
more
efficient
once
everybody
is
able
to
get
their
appointments
set.
A
So
thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
that
item
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
next
item
item
number
H,
which
is
our
second
public
comment
period.
A
This
is
the
second
final
comment
period
and
once
again
limited
to
two
minutes,
and
you
can
call
in
the
information
is
available
on
our
website
and
in
our
on
our
agenda,
and
so
with
that,
let's,
let's
go,
let's
start
again
in
Carson
City.
Is
there
anyone
in
Carson
wishing
to
give
public
comment.
A
B
This
is
broadcasting,
there
are
currently
no
public
mentors
in
the
Las
Vegas
office.
Thank.
B
A
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
all
right
so
before
we
adjourn
our
next.
A
regularly
scheduled
meeting
is
to
take
place
on
Thursday
October,
20th
2022..
We
have
no
further
items
to
come
before
us.
Thank
you
for
making
the
time
today
for
the
special
IFC
and
thank
you
for
being
being
here
and
participating.
Thank
you
for
those
that
have
given
public
comment
and
with
that
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you
thanks
chair
thank.