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A
Good
afternoon,
I
call
this
meeting
to
order
welcome
to
the
second
meeting
of
the
committee
to
conduct
an
interim
study
concerning
the
use
of
the
name,
image
and
likeness
of
a
student
athlete
thanks
to
everyone
who
is
attending
in
person
here
in
las
vegas,
as
well
as
in
carson
city
and
for
those
who
will
be
joining
us
online.
We
appreciate
your
participation.
A
Let's
go
into
calling
the
role
our
committee
secretary
is
going
to
call
the
role
today.
Miss
aguero.
Will
you
please
call
the
role.
B
C
B
D
E
A
And
I
am
present,
please
mark
linda
garza,
absent
excuse.
A
And
let's
say
we
have
a
quorum,
we're
going
to
get
into
some
house
keeping
quickly,
but
I
did
want
to
take
a
a
moment
just
to
acknowledge
that
it
is
our
vice
chair's
birthday
today.
So
let's
celebrate
senator
roberta
lang.
Our
vice
chair.
A
Good
deal
before
we
get
into
before
we
get
continue
on.
I
want
to
go
over
a
few
housekeeping
things.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
devices
electronic
devices
are
set
to
silent
for
those
in
person
and
on
zoom.
Please
keep
your
microphones
off
or
mute
yourselves.
Unless
you
are
speaking
when
members
are
present
and
presenters
speak,
please
turn
on
the
microphone
or
unmute
yourself
and
identify
yourself
for
the
record.
A
First
and
last
name,
each
time
you
speak,
we
will
have
a
question
and
answer
period
for
each
agenda
on
the
each
item
agenda
item
to
help
maintain
the
flow
of
the
meeting,
especially
since
we
have
members
in
multiple
locations.
I
will
recognize
members
one
at
a
time
if
they
wish
to
ask
questions
or
make
comments
for
members
attending
via
zoom.
Please
keep
your
video
turned
on
during
the
meeting
to
ensure
we
have
a
quorum
for
presenters
and
others
attending
in
person.
A
Please
be
sure
to
sign
in
at
the
table
near
the
entrance
at
each
location.
Even
if
you
do
not
plan
to
testify
meeting
materials
can
be
accessed
on
the
committee's
web,
page
located
on
the
nevada
legislature's
website.
Anyone
who
would
like
to
receive
electronic
notification
of
and
access
to
the
access
to
the
commute
committee's
agendas,
minutes
and
final
report
can
do
so
by
signing
up
on
the
legislative
legislature's
website,
there
will
be
a
public
comment
period
period
at
the
beginning
and
the
end
of
the
meeting
with
public
comment
limited
to
three
minutes
per
speaker.
A
Depending
on
how
things
go.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
happening
today.
We
may
take
a
ten
minute
break
halfway
through
the
meeting
or
we
may
not
so
we'll
we'll
play
it
by
ear.
I
know
there's
a
lot
happening
in
the
city
and
we
want
people
want
to
get
to
it,
so
we'll
try
to
get
through
as
much
as
we
can
as
fast
as
we
can
today.
Please
note
that
we
will
not
be
hearing
agenda
item
5
today.
A
A
A
Our
next
agenda
item
is
public
comment.
Public
comment
may
be
provided
in
several
different
ways,
all
of
which
are
listed
on
the
agenda.
You
may
provide
public
comment
by
testifying
in
person
in
las
vegas
or
carson
city
by
calling
six
six
nine
nine
zero
zero.
Six
eight
three
three
then
entering
meeting
id
eight
nine
zero,
two
three
zero
one:
six,
nine
one,
four
and
pressing
pound
again.
A
That
number
is
called
you
would
call
in
on
six:
six:
nine:
nine,
zero,
zero
six,
eight
three
three
and
the
meeting
and
enter
meeting
id
number;
eight,
nine,
zero,
two:
three
zero
one:
six,
nine
one:
four
and
then
press
pound
by
emailing
comments
to
student
athlete
at
lcb.state.env,
dot
us
or
by
mailing
written
comments
to
the
research
division
at
401,
south
carson
street
carson
city
nevada,
89701
by
faxing.
Your
comments
to
775
eight
four,
six:
four:
zero
zero,
as
mentioned
public
comment,
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
per
speaker.
A
An
additional
opportunity
to
make
public
comment
will
be
available
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
lcb's
broadcast
and
production
services.
Our
bps
staff
will
interact
with
those
making
remote
public
comment
and
providing
testimony
to
facilitate
participation
in
the
meeting
now
to
give
anyone
calling
in
time
to
get
in
the
queue
we're
going
to
begin
right
here
in
las
vegas
and
then
in
carson
city.
A
Please
approach
the
table.
If
you
have
public
comment
that
you'd
like
to
make
do
we
have
anyone
in
las
vegas
that
would
like
to
make
public
comment
at
this
time.
I'm
getting
head
knots
for
no,
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
carson
city.
Is
there
anyone
in
carson
city
that
would
like
to
make
public
comment?
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
know
we
had
several
members
that
had
to
also
move
to
zoom
for
this
particular
meeting,
so
we
will
move
on.
Is
there
anyone
in
on
the
phone
lines
that
would
like
to
give
a
public
comment.
A
No
okay:
we
will
now
go
to
agenda
item
three,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
for
the
meeting
on
march
24th
2022..
The
minutes
are
mo
modified
verbatim.
At
this
time.
I
will
take
a
motion
to
approve
the
meet
the
minutes
from
the
march
24th
meeting.
Would
anyone
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
those
minutes.
C
A
Goodson,
yes,
thank
you.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
turn
their
volume
up
a
bit.
No,
okay,
no
problem!
Let's
see,
is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
I
any
opposed,
say,
nay,
any
all
in
favor
say:
aye.
B
A
Aye
all
right
any
opposed,
say,
nay.
I
think
that
was
everyone
for
an
a
I
and
none
for
an
a
so
the
minutes
are
approved.
I
am
at
this
time
going
to
allow
devonta.
I
know
you
have
a
test
that
starts
very
quickly
here.
Thank
you
for
logging,
on
for
the
time
that
you
were
here
if
you
need
to
go,
feel
free
to
log
out
whenever
is
necessary,
but
thank
you
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
So
much,
mr
chairman,
no
problem
go.
Go
pass.
The
test
go
be
great.
A
The
next
agenda.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
item.
Four
is
a
presentation
on
current
policies,
programs
and
challenges
related
to
name
image
and
likeness
use
at
the
university
of
nevada,
las
vegas.
We
have
unlv's
stephanie
valentino
and
samuel
hirsch
with
us
in
las
vegas
and
casey
floyd
from
no
cap
sports
joining
us
by
zoom.
F
H
Hi,
my
name
is
casey
floyd,
chief
compliance
officer
at
no
cap
sports.
My
background
is
also
an
ncaa
compliance.
I've
been
at
multiple
power,
five
institutions
division,
one
conference
office.
Most
recently
I
was
director
of
compliance
at
the
university
of
michigan.
The
last
four
years
also
served
on
the
nat
legislation
and
governance
committee
that
gave
recommendations
on
name
image
likeness
to
the
ncaa.
F
F
F
The
second
was
no
recruiting
inducements,
so
a
student
athlete
should
not
sign
an
nil
deal
that
is
tied
to
a
specific
institution
for
their
enrollment
and
then.
Lastly,
student
athletes
should
report
any
nil
activity
consistent
with
state
law
or
institutional
policy,
I'm
sure
you're
all
very
familiar
with
ab254,
which
went
into
effect
on
january
1st
2022
three
main
parameters
in
here
the
first
universities
may
implement
reasonable
restrictions,
which
we
have
done
as
an
institution
and
sam
will
touch
base
a
little
bit
more
on
that
in
regards
to
our
core
values.
F
Second,
is
an
institution
may
require
a
student
athlete
to
receive
education,
which
we
have
also
done
through
our
vegas
effect
platform.
Sam
will
also
elaborate
on
that
in
future,
slides
and
then.
Lastly,
student
athletes
must
disclose
their
nil
deals,
which
we
do
through
no
cap
sports,
which
is
why
we
have
invited
casey
to
join
us,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
sam.
G
Thanks
stephanie
as
on-campus
practitioners,
I'll
kind
of
just
lay
the
foundation
of
what
we
currently
know
as
it
pertains
to
nil
and
institutional
involvement,
institutions
may
not
prevent
a
student-athlete
from
being
compensated
for
the
use
of
their
nil.
G
There's
three
main
things
that
I
want
to
touch
on
the
first
being
student
athletes
must
provide
a
service
in
return
for
the
deal
that
they're
going
to
execute.
We
call
that
quid
pro
quo.
We
make
sure
that
student
athletes
are
doing
something
for
something,
as
it
pertains
to
name,
image
and
likeness.
G
Secondly,
student
athletes
can
now
be
hired,
may
hire
representation
in
marketing
to
oversee
their
name
image
and
likeness
efforts.
I
do
want
to
note
this
is
not
to
be
confused
with
professional
representation.
This
is
representation
specifically
to
marketing
opportunities,
and
nil
would
obviously
fall
into
that
category.
G
Moving
on
to
our
policies
and
procedures
as
a
campus
institution
at
unlv,
student
athletes
must
adhere
to
the
following
guidelines:
first
being
that
they
cannot
misclass
academic
considerations
or
any
athletic
activities
for
nil
engagements,
we
understand
that
with
their
academic
and
athletic
responsibilities,
that
takes
up
a
large
portion
of
their
day,
and
that
is
the
reason
that
they
attend.
Unlv,
ultimately,
is
for
those
two
areas,
so
we
make
sure
that
those
are
prioritized
and
then
outside
of
those
hours,
they're
free
to
engage
in
any
nil
opportunities
is
fit.
G
Secondly,
we
are
a
nike
school.
We
require
our
student
athletes
to
continue
to
wear
institutionally,
issued
gear
for
practice
and
competition
and
any
equipment
that
they
received
from
the
institution
during
practice
and
competition
events.
So
if
a
student
athlete
maybe
has
a
brand
deal
with
a
non-nike
or
a
non-institutionally
issued
gear,
they
could
still
obviously
do
that
outside
of
their
time.
But
when
they're
representing
us
as
an
institution,
they
still
have
to
adhere
to
the
institutional
issued
gear
requirements.
G
Third,
the
unlv
arch
that
logo
can
be
used
requested
by
the
student
athlete
to
use
for
an
nil
deal.
What
this
looks
like
in
practice
is
a
student
athlete
might
be
making
a
social
media
appearance
or
a
public
appearance,
and
then
they
could
request
that
unlv
arch
they'll
work
with
our
marketing
team,
and
if
the
marketing
team
is
comfortable
with
it,
they
would
release
and
allow
the
student
athlete
to
use
that
logo
for
an
il
deal.
G
We
need
to
continue
to
obviously
educate
them
on
what
tax
implications
doing
their
taxes,
any
other
financial
literacy
considerations
as
they
continue
to
build
out
their
brand
and
their
nil
and
then
finally,
nil
agreements
must
align
with
our
core
values
as
an
institution.
There's
two
examples
that
I
like
to
use
here:
the
first
one
being
marijuana
usage.
G
Obviously,
in
the
city
of
las
vegas,
marijuana
is
legal,
but
from
an
ncaa
standpoint
we
continue
to
drug
test,
our
student
athletes
and
any
sort
of
agreement
or
nil
deal
with
a
marijuana
dispensary
as
an
example
could
violate
our
core
values
and
then
the
other
example.
I
like
to
use
a
sports,
wagering,
obviously
being
here
in
vegas,
we're
surrounded
by
casinos
and
sports
books.
However,
at
the
ncaa
level,
it
is
impermissible
to
place
a
wager
on
any
sport
that
has
an
ncaa
championship.
G
I
think,
on
a
day-to-day
basis
as
on-campus
compliance
officers,
we
are
aware
of
what
certain
violations
look
like.
A
coach
might
have
an
impermissible
contact
with
the
psa,
and
we
know
that's
going
to
most
likely
result
in
a
secondary
violation
and
we
would
provide
them
with
rules.
Education
on
the
back
end,
something
more
egregious,
like
lack
of
institutional
control
might
result
in
a
major
violation.
G
This
is
important
because
this
allows
us
as
compliance
administrators,
to
understand
what
we
need
to
educate
our
coaches,
our
staff
and
our
student
athletes
on
with
the
nil
space.
The
penalty
structure
has
not
been
clearly
defined,
so
we
for
the
time
being,
are
just
trying
to
educate
on
every
possible
scenario
that
might
come
up.
G
Secondly,
is
the
definition
of
institutional
involvement,
so
currently
institutional
involvement
has
not
been
defined
by
the
ncaa.
Some
schools
have
been
very
conservative
in
this
space.
Some
have
been
very
progressive
in
terms
of
how
they're
going
to
handle
institutional
involvement.
There's
about
three
examples
that
I'll
use
on
this.
A
student
athlete
might
request
gear
for
an
nil
deal
and
then,
depending
on
how
the
institution
wants
to
handle
that
they
might
give
out
gear
for
an
il
deal,
or
they
may
say,
hey,
you
need
to
wear
team
issued
gear
that
you've
already
received.
G
A
second
example
would
be
facilitating
a
deal,
so
institutions
might
be
very,
very
aggressive
in
the
space
and
go
out
and
facilitate
deals
for
their
student
athletes.
Others
may
you
know,
sit
back
and
continue
to
educate
and
then
the
third
one
might
be
facility
facility
usage,
so
a
institution
may
provide
facility
access
as
it
pertains
to
an
nil
deal.
But
again,
institutional
involvement
has
still
not
been
clearly
defined.
So
there's
a
lot
of
gray
areas.
It
pertains
to
institutional
involvement
and
then
the
third
is
unintended.
Recruiting
advantages.
G
So
two
examples
that
I'll
use
here
is
obviously
pay
for
play
and
recruiting
inducements.
Nil.
We
can
all
agree,
was
great
for
our
student
athletes.
The
opportunity
that
they're
now
given
to
engage
in
nil
deals.
What
I
think
we
might
see
moving
forward
is
this
turn
into
pay
for
play
to
get
a
student
athlete
in
the
transfer
portal.
F
Thanks
sam,
so
we
have
a
fair
amount
of
student
athletes
that
qualify
for
federal
aid,
financial
aid,
whether
that
be
pell,
grant
or
other
federal
grants,
and
we
are
still
unsure
of
how
nil
deals
will
now
impact
that.
So
as
an
example,
someone
might
have
an
expected
family
contribution,
that's
very
low
and
they
may
qualify
for
the
maximum
amount
of
pell
grant.
Now,
if
they
are
involved
in
these
different
nil
activities
and
they
have
additional
income,
we
don't
know
what
that
would
look
like
down
the
road.
F
F
G
Moving
on
to
our
vegas
effect
platform,
this
is
our
institutional
name
image
and
likeness.
It's
a
three-prong
education
that
focus
on
educating
our
student
athletes
and
providing
them
with
the
resources
to
maximize
their
nil
opportunities.
Three
buckets
here,
the
first
being
training.
This
is
on
campus
education
for
our
student
athletes,
our
coaches,
our
staff
and
our
community.
This
would
involve
donors
boosters
season
ticket
holders.
Again
we
want
to
educate
all
the
appropriate
parties
that
could
be
involved
in
this
space.
G
We
have
semester
meetings
with
our
student
athletes,
we'll
meet
team
by
team
and
we'll
discuss,
name,
image
and
likeness
as
one
of
the
items
we
continue
to
educate
them.
Additionally,
part
of
our
toolkit
will
provide
on
campus
resources
and
target
presentations.
When
we
rolled
this
out
in
july
and
august,
we
understood
that
the
first
part
of
nil
is
just
being
mindful
of
your
brand.
What
kind
of
deals
you
want
to
do?
G
Finally,
the
takeoff:
that's
no
cap
sports,
that's
going
to
be
our
third
party
administrator
who
we
have
partnered
with
to
help
us
with
the
disclosure
process.
They
provide
great
resources
modules
that
student
athletes
can
go
on
and
complete
receive
more
education
and
information
there
moving
on
specifically
to
nocap.
This
is
a
partnership
that
we
have
with
unlv
and
nocap
that
provides
our
student
athletes
with
necessary
knowledge
and
a
platform
to
navigate
their
nil.
A
couple
high
level
things
here
that
student
athletes
are
able
to
do
in
no
cap,
the
first
being
contract
receipt.
G
So
when
they
have
a
deal
they
can
upload
a
contract.
From
an
institutional
standpoint,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
review
that
contract,
but
we
will
not
give
them
information
on
whether
it's
a
good
deal
or
not.
What
we
will
do,
however,
is
acknowledge.
That
deal
is
permissible
with
ncaa
rules
are
nevada,
state
law
and
our
institutional
policy.
We
encourage
disclosure
on
the
front
end,
which
allows
us
to
obviously
review
and
make
sure
that
the
deal
meets
all
of
those
permissible
channels
prior
to
execution.
G
Secondly,
is
agent
registration.
We
spoke
on
that
marketing
agents
are
now
permissible.
Representation
for
nil
deals
is
now
permissible.
No
cap
sports
allows
agents
to
register
as
agents
and
platfor
in
the
platform
which
would
allow
us
to
continue
to
monitor
what
agents
are
representing
our
student
athletes.
Third,
is
tax
documentation,
preparation.
Obviously,
that
is
a
key
part
of
the
nil
space.
Is
taxes
no
cap
assist
and
that
also
brand
development
and
analytics
a
lot
of
student
athletes,
especially
in
non-revenue
sports,
may
not
have
an
idea
of
what
they're
worth
what
a
twitter
post
is
worth.
G
Finally,
I
do
want
to
note
that
student
athletes
are
permitted
and
we
encourage
them
to
explore
all
nil
opportunities
on
other
platforms,
such
as
an
influencer
or
an
open
doors,
but
from
an
institutional
standpoint.
We
require
them
to
disclose
to
us
in
no-cap
sports,
with
that,
I'm
going
to
pass
it
over
to
casey
floyd,
who
is
our
nocap
sports
representation,
and
he
will
continue
to
speak
on
nocap.
H
Thanks
sam
some
of
the
things
daily
basis
with
athletes
and
schools,
just
our
interactions,
help
onboard
and
teach
athletes
in
schools
how
to
use
no
cap
go
through
demos.
Answer
questions:
if
anyone
has
any
issues
with
disclosures
or
deal
related
questions,
they
can
come
to
us
solve
technology
issues,
there's
a
new
platform.
So
if
anyone
has
any
issues,
that's
another
thing
that
we
deal
with
on
a
daily
basis,
solicit
feedback
and
new
feature
requests
from
athletes
from
businesses
from
schools.
What
will
make
their
lives
easier?
H
This
is
a
fast
paced
industry,
some
little
things
language,
changing
the
deal
disclosure
on
the
school
side
from
accepting
a
deal
to
acknowledging
disclosure
of
the
deal
that
way
that
school
cannot
be
seen
as
approving
a
deal
or
held
legally
liable
for
any
of
the
deals.
Other
athletes
do
the
workflows
and
deal
processes
have
really
changed
as
we
go
and
there's
really
two
options
for
workflows.
Some
schools
have
different
disclosure
processes.
H
Just
one
example:
villanova:
they
don't
require
disclosure
before
a
deal
is
signed,
but
they
just
require
that
the
deal
is
disclosed
at
some
point,
even
if
it
is
after
the
fact
and
the
deal's
already
been
finalized
between
a
business
and
an
athlete
social
media
stats
and
profiles
modernize
it
a
lot
of
stuff
that
sam
mentioned,
so
an
athlete
can
connect
their
instagram,
their
tick
tock,
their
twitch,
their
twitter.
H
Any
of
the
social
media
platforms
we
pull
in
that
data
and
we
can
provide
all
the
social
media
metrics,
so
it'll
show
them
their
followers
the
engagement
rate
of
their
followers.
So
this
is
how
often
someone
likes
clicks
comments,
shares
a
post
and
then
it'll
also
show
the
demographic
information
of
their
audience,
so
how
many
of
their
followers
are
male
or
female?
H
H
We're
constantly
adding
new
content
partnering
with
new
experts
in
a
variety
of
fields,
whether
it's
branding
social
media,
financial,
literacy,
trademarks,
legal
advice,
things
that
are
related
to
nio
and
then
challenges
and
il
is
a
brand
new
industry.
It's
very
fast
paced,
it
seems,
like
things,
are
changing
all
the
times.
H
Some
of
the
other
challenges
new
technology.
This
is
a
new
space
and
we're
really
trying
to
make
it
as
user
friendly
and
intuitive
as
possible
and
just
make
sure
that
we
can
capture
everything
that
the
business
needs
the
athletes
needs
and
then
we're
also
adding
in
an
agent
perspective
of
the
portal.
So
they
can
also
help
their
clients
now
that
athletes
can
actually
hire
marketing
agents
to
help
them
with
their
nil
deals,
negotiating
signing,
deals,
finding
deals
and
then
some
other
challenges.
Education.
H
I
think
you
know
I've
been
on
campus
for
a
long
time
and
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
people
I
just
already
know
intuitively,
but
it
you
know
you
really
only
have
a
limited
time
with
student
athletes,
they're
very
busy
individuals,
whether
it's
sports
academics,
personal
life,
being
a
college
student
and
family,
so
really
trying
to
condense
the
education
into
bite-sized
content.
That's
two
to
three
minutes:
we're
breaking
them
out
into
chapters.
So
then
athletes
can
easily
search
and
find
the
education
information
that
they're
searching
for
and
then
deliver
it
to
them
in
a
condensed
format.
G
Thank
you
casey.
Next,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
challenges
from
an
institutional
standpoint
at
unlv,
first
being
limited
guidance
from
the
ncaa
as
on-campus
compliance
practitioners,
we
operate
per
the
ncaa
manual,
which
outlines
all
the
rules
from
recruiting
to
playing
in
practice,
seasons,
financial
aid
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
With
the
guidance
we've
received
from
the
ncaa,
we've
been
left
with
a
lot
of
gray
area.
G
The
compliance
structure
that
we
have
is
we're
always
able
to
point
to
a
rule
or
an
interpretation.
We
give
that
to
the
coach
or
a
student
athlete
of
why
this
is
why-
or
this
is
why
not
with
the
current
rules
that
are
in
place
for
the
ncaa
again,
we
have
to
there's
a
lot
of
decision
making
operating
in
the
gray
area.
G
Secondly,
definition
of
institutional
involvement.
I
spoke
earlier
about
institutional
involvement
and
how
this
has
not
been
clearly
defined
again.
This
really
makes
our
job
as
on
campus
practitioners
difficult
without
the
guardrails
put
in
place
to
know
what
we
can
and
can't
do
as
an
institution
as
it
pertains
to
nil.
G
Thirdly,
donors
and
boosters
involvement.
This
is
obviously
a
space
that
they
want
to
get
involved
in
as
pertains
to
an
image
and
likeness
and
student
athletes.
We
continue
to
educate
our
donor
and
booster
groups,
but
we
are
still
unaware
really
of
how
much
or
how
little
donors
and
boosters
can
be
involved
in
the
nil
space.
G
G
G
Third
is
reporting
in
penalty
structure.
We
talked
about
the
penalty
structure
for
ncaa
rules,
the
penalties
and
what
a
violation
of
nil
really
looks
like
right
now
has
still
not
been
clearly
defined
and
outlined
again.
We
continue
to
educate
on
what
we
believe
is
important
in
the
nil
space,
but
until
the
reporting
and
the
penalty
structures
further
outlines,
that's
going
to
be
again
left,
leaving
us
to
work
in
the
gray
area
as
it
pertains
to
some
of
this.
G
Third
is
international
student
athletes.
Some
of
you
know
for
student
athletes
to
attend
college
in
the
united
states.
Most
of
them
are
on
a
visa
student
visa,
specifically
an
f1
visa.
There
are
laws
and
rules
as
it
pertains
to
employment
for
most
student
athletes
or
students
in
general
that
are
on
those
visas.
They
can
only
work
on
campus
up
to
20
hours
a
week
or
up
to
40
hours
a
week.
Nil
is
obviously
considered
employment,
which
has
created
challenges
with
their
student
visas.
G
Fourth
is
on-campus
resources,
I'm
very
active
on
social
media
about
once
a
week,
I'll
log
on
and
I'll
see
an
image
and
likeness
deal.
The
first
thing
that
my
mind
thinks
of
is:
I
need
to
go
see
if
it's
disclosed
in
no
cap,
so
I'll
log
on
no
cap
sports
more
times
than
not
it's
not
disclosed,
which
then
prompts
me
to
send
an
email
or
a
text
to
the
student
athlete
saying
hey.
We
need
you
to
disclose
this
deal.
G
That
creates
a
challenge
for
us,
because
now
we're
not
able
to
confirm
that
the
deal
has
been
it's
permissible
on
the
front
ends.
We're
now
you
know
going
backwards
which
creates
a
challenge
for
us.
The
goal
is
disclosure
on
the
front
end,
so
we
can
review
it
from
a
state
law,
an
ncaa
interim
policy
and
our
institutional
guidelines.
So
when
we
get
disclosure
on
the
back
end,
that
obviously
can
create
challenges.
For
us.
G
I
played
baseball
to
division.
Two
school,
it
was
a
small
private
school.
Our
compliance
person
was
always
was
also
the
facilities
person
they
also
fundraised.
Their
capacity
for
compliance
was
not
as
high
as
it
would
have
been
at
a
school
like
unlv,
with
a
full
four
to
five
full-time
staff
member
compliance
office.
G
A
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Do
we
have
any
questions
committee
members?
A
We
got
one
two
we
have
any
on
zone
just
wanted
to
see
where
all
the
questions
are.
Okay,
if
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
moment
here
that
we
make
a
quick
adjustment,
if
you
guys
can
stick
around
a
little
bit,
we
can
hold
on
to
those
questions
for
right
now.
Only
because
did
we
lose
them
again.
A
D
Thank
you,
chair
dexter
irvin,
really,
you
kind
of
answered
the
question
sam
a
little
bit,
but
are
there
consequences
if
for
non-disclosure?
Are
you
guys
what's
been
the
approach
for
that,
because,
obviously,
with
the
ncaa
there
always
seems
to
be
consequences,
which
is
good,
but
are
we
just
addressing
those
or
are
we?
Is
there
actually
consequences
that
have
to
be
reported.
G
Thank
you
for
the
question,
mr
irvin.
From
an
ncaa
standpoint,
lack
of
disclosure
has
not
been
outlined.
Some
state
laws
require
disclosure,
some
don't
from
an
institutional
standpoint.
We
have
a
policy
and
procedure
in
place
that
if
we
identify
an
nil
deal
that
has
not
been
disclosed,
we'll
send
a
formal
email
to
the
student
athletes
outlining
the
deal
and
that
they
need
to
disclose
to
knowcap
sports.
If
that
deal
does
not
get
disclosed,
we'll
send
a
follow-up,
email
and
we'll
copy
their
head
coach.
So
the
head
coach
is
aware.
G
Really
the
leverage
we
have
at
that
point
is,
we
will
say,
for
our
state
law,
disclosure
is
required
and
the
ability
to
continue
to
practice
and
compete
in
collegiate
athletics
could
be
impacted.
If
you
don't
disclose
that
deal
from
that
point,
on
disclosure
always
happens,
and
from
that
point
we
really
don't
have
any.
A
A
I
I
work
with
the
men's
basketball
coaches
association,
I'm
the
executive
director,
but
I
would
just
say
this
that
what
the
njcaa
tried
to
do
for
their
student
athletes
is
to
make
it
fair,
equitable
and
easy
to
enforce
and
it
the
document
I
think
I
sent
in
for
all
of
you
to
see.
I
I
I
A
Okay,
thank
you
and,
and
so
everyone
is
aware,
we're
on
agenda
item
number
six
and
there
was
a
document
that
was
sent
in
now.
Mr
mcdonald,
it
is
a
little
confusing,
so
if
you
can
provide
a
little
clarity
on
what
you
actually
sent
us,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
and
then
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions
for
anyone
else.
That
has
questions.
I
Well
we're
getting
a
lot
of
what
I'm
hearing
there's,
not
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
the
two-year
college
student
athlete
except
t-shirts,
maybe
or
camps
skill
development,
where
they're
doing
lessons
like
a
pitcher,
catcher,
a
basketball
player
or
track,
and
then
a
member
institution
allowing
student
athletes
to
receive
compensation
and
compliance
with
the
state
law.
So
if
you
do
have
a
law
in
the
state,
they
just
have
to
follow
that
the
only
restriction
really
is
this
receiving
compensation,
name,
energy
like
image
or
likeness,
promote
a
commercial
product
or
enterprise
public
or
media
appearance.
I
So
long
as
it
does
not
conflict
with
the
institution's
existing
partnership,
sponsorships
or
agreements,
and
the
only
other
thing
it
says:
institutional
employees
or
booster,
making
direct
payment
or
to
an
athlete.
That's
you
can't
do
that
direct
payment
from
an
institution
in
exchange
for
athletic
performance
or
recruiting
inducement,
which
I
mean
I
hate
to
say
it.
I
But
if
a
young
man
or
woman,
a
student
athlete,
is
getting
an
nil
they're,
probably
getting
it
because
they're
on
a
really
good
team
or
they're
really
good
at
what
they
do,
so
that
which
is
going
to
be
almost
impossible
to
enforce,
but
that's
kind
of
the
reality
that
of
what
the
atmosphere
ran.
Intercollegiate,
athletics
right
now,
so
I
mean,
if
you're
a
good
player
you're
going
to
get
an
nil
if
you're
on
a
good
team
you're
going
to
get
an
nil.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
see
do
we
have
any
questions.
D
Dexter
irvin
chair,
thank
you.
I
tom
and
I
know
each
other.
We
serve
on
the
national
wrestling
committee
together
and
you
know
what
the
document
that
you
have
tom.
The
njcaa
is
organizing
the
regions
around
the
country
where
the
ncaa
is
more
organized
by
conference,
and
so
what
what
tom
did
was
send
out
requests
to
different
region
leadership
around
the
country
asking
what
their
regions
were
doing
relative
to
the
institutions
within
those
regions,
and
you
can
see
that
by
that
reply,
for
example,
nevada
is
in
region
18.
D
I
didn't
reply
because
I'm
on
the
committee-
but
there
are
most
of
the
other
regions
around
the
country-
are-
are
just
coming
to
terms
with
what
this
would
mean
for
their
institutions,
the
small
little
school
in
in
little
town,
usa,
that
has
you
know
two
gas
stations
and
a
in
a
convenience
store
are
not
the
places
in
junior
college
that
you're
gonna
have
the
issues
they're
in
the
cities
they're
in
the
more
urban
areas
that
those
possible
letters
could
could
provide
revenue
for
for
our
students.
D
So
I
think
we're
going
to
continue
to
see
the
growth
in
the
junior
college
level,
but,
like
a
lot
of
things,
we
also
wait
for
the
ncaa
and
the
nai
to
make
make
those
determinations.
And
then
we
react
to
those
based
on
that.
But
right
now,
within
the
junior
college
ranks
it
is
a
very
wide
open
and
generalized
statement
that
allows
nils.
A
Thank
you.
We
have
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
members.
A
No,
oh
mine's,
clear!
All
right!
Thank
you,
mr
mcdonald.
Thank
you
for
popping
in
here
during
your
travel
time
have
safe
journey
wherever
you
are
going
and
we
would
love
to
be
able
to
reach
out
if
we
have
any
other
questions
or
need
you
to
come
back
for
any
reason.
I
don't
know
why,
but
I
hope
it's
possible.
A
Still
getting
used
to
these
buttons.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
patience.
We
are
going
to
return
back
to
agenda
item
4
and
we
were
on
a
question
and
answer
at
that
time.
I
believe
we're
going
to
go
in
this
order
eric
and
then
I
believe,
vice
chair
has
a
question
and
I
see
another
hand
pop
up.
There
is
so
and
that's
yvonne
yes,
so
we
will
go
in
that
order.
Thank
you.
E
For
the
record
eric
nepo
maseno,
I
have
two
questions.
Actually
the
first
one
for
casey
and
commissioner
mcdonald
spoke
a
little
bit
about
this
in
terms
of
what
our
goals
would
be
in
this
particular
space
to
create
something
that's
fair
and
equitable
for
all
to
apply.
Casey.
You
provided
a
a
great
example
with
the
villa
nova
anecdote
with
respect
to
how
different
schools
are
applying
nil
administration
differently
on
their
campuses.
H
H
I'd
say:
the
disclosure
process
is
one
thing
that
I've
seen
very
different
amongst
institutions
and
then
the
level
of
involvement
there's
a
few
states
that
allow
the
school
to
actually
be
involved
in
the
deal
help
facilitating
actually
help
sourcing
deals.
I
know
montana
I
believe,
is
one
and
then
tennessee
just
changed
their
state
law,
so
I'll
be
interested
to
see
how
that
plays
out.
We
do
have
a
couple
schools
in
tennessee,
so
I
think
that's
a
big
difference.
H
If
you
know
one
school
can
actually
help
find
deals,
talk
to
donors,
introduce
athletes
and
actually
help
them
create
nioh
opportunities,
whereas,
like
tom
mcdonald
said
the
florida
state
law
is
actually
very
restrictive
and
doesn't
allow
a
coach
or
any
staff
member
to
be
facilitating
or
involved
in
any
deals
so
very
hands-off,
and
I
think
that's
why
florida
is
repealing.
I
believe
that's
the
same
reason
why
alabama
repealed
their
state
law
and
trying
to
make
it
more
flexible
and
permissive
to
allow
the
school
to
be
involved
in
some
form
or
fashion.
E
G
Thank
you,
mr
nepal.
Masano.
As
a
former
student
athlete,
I
went
through
college.
You
know
18
to
22
years
old.
I
didn't
know
how
to
do
my
taxes.
I
didn't
know
how
to
set
up
a
bank
account.
You
know,
I
didn't
really
know
how
to
market
myself.
I
unfortunately
wasn't
you
know
playing
during
the
nil
days,
but
I
would
have
known
how
to
do
any
of
that
stuff.
I
think
the
biggest
challenge
right
now
for
student
athletes,
especially
in
non-revenue
sports,
is
they
don't
know
how
to
go
out
and
create
these
nil
deals?
G
Some
may
feel
that
the
deals
are
going
to
come
to
them,
but
a
lot
of
this
is
actually
going
out
and
doing
outreach
themselves
looking
for
deals
that
make
sense
for
them,
partnering
with
brands,
businesses
that
work
for
them
and
then
really
after
that,
once
the
deals
are
done,
you
know
hey.
How
do
I
do
my
taxes?
Hey,
you
know.
How
do
I
set
up?
My
bank
account
again.
B
Thank
you
chair.
I
have
a
couple
questions
as
well,
so
I'll
start
first
with
casey
casey.
Do
you
find,
like
I
know
from
there's,
been
a
lot
of
articles
about
alabama
lately
in
the
news
and
so
I've
been
reading
those
and
their
quarterback
is
making
like
six
figures,
seven
figures
in
nil
money.
Do
you
find
that
the
the
athletes
that
have
the
best
opportunities
to
get
the
larger
nil
contracts
are
top
25
schools
or
and
or
where
there
are
big
media
population
media
hubs.
H
Great
question,
thank
you.
I
really
think
it's
you
know
it
depends.
I
think
those
deals
that
you
know
make
the
headlines.
The
the
six
figure
deals
million
dollar
deals.
I
think
those
are
really
tied
to
the
collectives
and
these
donors
that
are
trying
to
incentivize
future
recruits
to
go
to
the
school
by
offering
current
student
athletes.
H
That
has
a
million
followers
and
the
reason
behind
that
is
someone
that
has
like
a
million
followers.
Typically,
the
engagement
rate
for
that
person
is
one
to
two
percent,
so
that
means
out
of
all
million
people
that
follow
them.
Only
a
very
small
amount
actually
engage
with
the
post,
like
it
comment
share
it,
whereas
micro
influencers
and
especially
student
athletes,
they
have
a
very
dedicated
following,
so
even
if
they
only
have
2,
000
or
5
000
followers,
the
engagement
rate
of
their
audience
is
upwards
of
25.
B
So
from
that
standpoint,
would
you
because
one
of
the
things
I'm
concerned
about,
we
had
a
presentation
from
the
nc2a
and
I
really
felt
like
they
have
a
hands-off
approach
that
they're
not
making
any
decisions.
B
Let
it
go,
how
it's
going
to
go,
we'll,
follow
the
process
and
see
how
it
goes
and
then,
if
we
need
to
step
in,
we
will
or
wait
for
some
national
legislation
to
happen
and
which
is
troubling
to
me,
because
I
think
that
what
I'm
really
concerned
about
is
the
recruiting
right
and
that
some
schools
will
have
recruiting
advantages
over
others
where,
in
the
past,
kids
would
choose
a
university
based
on
their
program
and
how
they
could
better
their
skills.
B
By
being
a
part
of
that
program,
and
I
worry
about
that
being
lost
because
then
it's
to
get
your
top
level
athletes,
it's
more
about
the
nial
contracts
that
we
can
get,
and
so
I
I
guess
I
to
put
that
into
a
question.
I'm
guess
I'm
wondering
if
what
you
see
in
that
realm.
B
Yeah
and
then
about
the
recruiting.
So
if
you
think
about
the
athletes
that
you
have
that
you
represent
or
that
are
a
part
of
your
group,
do
you
see
those
athletes
moving
more
to
universities
based
on
the
money
and
the
contracts
they
can
get,
or
is
it
still
about
the
program.
H
I
think
it's
it's
hard
to
say
just
because
you
know
we're
not
even
a
full
year
into
nil
yet,
but
from
our
perspective
at
no
cap
sports
we're
a
completely
open
marketplace,
so
we
don't
have
any
allegiances
to
certain
schools,
we're
not
trying
to
facilitate
specifically
for
any
individual
we're
trying
to
help
and
bring
deals
on
to
the
platform
for
every
student
athlete
that
uses
no
cap
sports.
I
do
think
just
being
practical.
H
I
do
think
that
nil
deals
will
influence
in
some
form
or
fashion
18
to
22
year
olds,
that
a
majority
of
them
do
not
have
financial
stability.
In
a
lot
of
cases.
H
I
worked
on
campus
for
almost
a
decade
and
a
lot
of
student
athletes
in
the
revenue
producing
sports,
men's
basketball.
Women's
basketball,
football
do
not
usually
come
from
socioeconomic
backgrounds
that
are
very
strong,
and
so
I
could
see
an
nil
deal
being
attractive
to
help
them
or
their
family.
So
I
do
think
it's
going
to
play
a
role
in
some
way
to
recruit
them
to
schools,
but
I
still
think
the
majority
of
student
athletes.
You
know
that
and
that's
you
know
a
large
chunk
that
are
not
in
the
revenue
producing
sports.
H
B
Okay,
so
you,
I
really
appreciated
your
presentation,
particularly
the
challenges,
because
those
challenges
are
the
things
I
think
about
as
well,
and
part
of
the
role
of
our
committee
is
to
come
up
with
recommendations
that
how
this
program
is
going
to
work
in
our
state,
and
so,
if
you
were
to
think
about
how
we
could
be
most
helpful
to
you
and
to
the
universities
in
colleges
in
our
state.
What?
B
If
you
could
tell
us
what
you
would
like
to
see
us
do,
but
also
where
we
should
stay
away
from?
I
guess,
because
it
would
so
it
wouldn't
be
too
restrictive,
because
I'm
concerned
about
that
as
well,
I
mean
I
want
to
be
able
to
give
our
athletes
the
best
opportunity
possible.
But
if
you
could
talk
about
those,
I
really
appreciate
it.
G
Thank
you,
mrs
lane,
I
think
from
a
on
campus
practitioner
standpoint.
We
want
to
continue
to
we're
really
looking
for
guidance
at
this
point.
What
we
can
do,
what
rules
are
in
place
that
makes
our
jobs,
obviously
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
easier
from
a
global
landscape.
I
think
we
don't
want
to
put
our
in-state
institutions
at
a
competitive
disadvantage
where
maybe
the
state
law
is
too
restrictive.
F
F
I
think
the
more
education
that
we
could
provide
to
our
student
athletes,
the
better,
whether
that's
on
campus,
whether
there's
a
platform
that
all
state
student
athletes
can
access
anything
like
that
to
continue
to
provide
them
education
at
this
state
because,
like
sam
mentioned
18
to
22
year
olds,
it's
sometimes
hard
to
get
them
to
disclose
and
do
those
types
of
activities,
and
so
the
more
that
we
can
put
that
in
front
of
them.
The
better.
E
If
it's
okay,
I'd
like
to.
E
Eric
napolitano
for
the
record,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Vice
chair,
senator
lang
and
happy
birthday,
I
I
think
what
I
have
seen
as
well
and
and
we're
seeing
it
too,
with
florida
and
alabama
now
trying
to
repeal
their
particular
state
legislation.
I
think
it's
great
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
provide
feedback
on
a
framework
where
I
think
we
can
be
a
little
bit.
Creative
is
the
language
within
that
framework.
E
What's
actually
required
versus,
what's
recommended,
I
think,
will
go
a
long
way
with
respect
to
the
flexibility
that
campuses
will
have
in
terms
of
what
they
can
and
can't
do.
Also
from
a
resource
standpoint,
we've
chatted
a
little
bit
about
how
all
these
schools
are
designed
very
differently
and
what
could
be
recommended
could
be
pulled
off
at
one
school
versus
if
they
don't
have
the
staffing
or
the
expertise
at
another
it
may
not
be
able
to.
But
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
handcuff
institutions
to
have
to
do
something
that
may
not
be
feasible.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Actually,
vice
chair
lang
was
channeling.
My
question.
It
was
more
along
the
lines
of
one
of
the
challenges
represented
by
unlv
was
sort
of
the
differences
in
state
laws,
and
I
was
just
curious
whether
the
institutions,
through
this
process,
would
have
recommendations
to
us
about
what
types
of
information
they
would
want
in
the
state
law.
F
I
think
one
of
the
other
areas-
and
this
was
touched
on
previously-
was
institutional
involvement
right.
I
think
our
state
law
doesn't
mention
that
other
state
laws
are
very
specific
that
allow
for
that
and
so
either
outlining
that
whether
that's
going
to
be
permitted
or
not
permitted
would
be
helpful.
I
think
in
clarifying
a
lot
of
things.
G
I
think
I
would
just
add
to
that
when
we
file
as
an
institution,
an
official
ncaa
interp,
the
ncaa
will
come
back
a
lot
of
times
and
say
defer
to
your
state
law
or
institutional
policy.
Sometimes
that
helps
because
we
maybe
have
it
outlined
in
our
institutional
policy
or
the
state
law,
but
sometimes
we
don't.
So
I
think
that
again,
as
the
ncaa
continues
to
defer
to
what
you're
doing
in
your
state
or
what
you're
doing
as
an
institution,
I
think
again
more
guard
rails
are,
you
know
definitely
key
here.
E
And
if
I
could
just
add
to
that,
I
think
great
question.
One
of
the
critical
issues
to
that
is
really
just
the
uniformity.
We
can
create
our
own
state
law,
but
if
there
are
other
laws
that
exist
out
there,
then
inherently
there
could
be
an
unintended
recruiting
advantage
based
on
the
differences
of
laws.
A
Good
deal,
thank
you,
and
so
I
would
just
kind
of
echo.
You
know
our
our
vice
chair
there
we
are
tasked
with
you
know,
coming
to
get
bringing
some
recommendations
and
so
anything
I
would
welcome
all
the
institutions
in
our
state
too.
A
If
you
have
some
ideas
or
thoughts
that
could
be
submitted,
that
we
could,
you
know
possibly
look
at
we're,
obviously
not
setting
the
policy
here,
so
we're
putting
ideas
and
thoughts
together
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
establish
some
ground
some
some
framework
that
can
then
be
modified.
A
You
know
as
quickly
and
efficiently
with
the
national.
Whenever
that
happens,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
students
here
are.
You
know,
able
to
take
the
full
advantage,
but
they
also
have
the
greatest
support,
as
well
as
our
institutions,
so
that
we
run
good
programs.
C
Yes,
caitlyn
norris
for
the
record,
and
I
had
a
question
surrounding
kind
of
standout
students
in
smaller
institutions
and
smaller
divisions
like
not
d1,
and
how
their
possible
social
media
popularity
could
be
marketed
through
third
party
institute
or
third
party
groups
like
nocap,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
how,
with
the
current
popularity
of
apps
like
tick
tock,
and
how
athletes
are
able
to
go
viral
and
then
grow
a
very
large
following
following
those
viral
videos,
how
smaller
students
and
smaller
student
athletes.
In
less
noticed
institutions
could
market
off
of
their
popularity.
A
G
Samuel
hirsch
associate
director
of
compliance
unlv.
I
think
one
of
the
first
big
deals
that
I
saw
when
name
image
and
likeness
passed
was
through
tick,
tock,
two
twin
women's
basketball
players
at
fresno
state,
you
know
started
to
go
viral
and
they've
accumulated
a
lot
of
nil
income
throughout
the
past
year.
I
think
anybody
with
a
following,
regardless
of
level
division,
one
through
naia
and
jca
division,
two
in
division,
three,
anybody
that
has
a
following
and
a
good
brand
or
product,
is
going
to
be
able
to
engage
in
these
opportunities.
H
Just
to
touch
on
that
casey
floyd,
chief
compliance
officer,
no
cap
sports
sam-
really
hit
it
on
the
head.
I
think
that's
exactly
it.
The
the
brands
really
care
more
about
the
engagement
rate
and
the
number
of
followers
so
the
school
that
they
go
to
the
sport
they
play.
That's
really
secondary
and,
for
example,
we
just
ran
a
tick
tock
campaign
with
cheesecake
factory
and
doordash,
and
they
selected
athletes
really
from
across
the
country.
A
Okay,
thank
you
is
that
good,
miss
norris
or
you
have
another
question.
A
Perfect,
thank
you
all
right.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
short
brief
questions
here.
How
many
nil
students
do
we
all
have
do
we
have
at
unlv.
G
A
G
Would
say
currently
where
we
sit
over
a
hundred
deals
have
been
disclosed
to
us
as
an
institution.
That
does
not
mean
that
every
deal
that
a
unlv
student
athlete
is
involved
in
has
been
disclosed,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
sometimes
we're
doing
that
on
the
back
end,
but
where
we
sit
today
about
over
a
hundred.
If
I'd
estimate,
okay.
A
F
Stephanie
valentino
assistant,
athletics,
director
unlv,
I
think,
depending
on
the
landscape,
it's
average
in
maybe
non-power
five
conferences.
I
sit
on
a
knack
which
is
the
national
athletics
association
for
compliance
committee
and
we
have
a
cross-section
of
colleagues
from
across
different
institutions.
F
There's
one
power,
five
institution
that
I
remember,
speaking
of
over
500
plus
deals
disclosed
right,
and
then
I
think
the
other
thing
to
note
from
samuel
is
that
100
deals.
There
might
be
one
student
athlete
that
has
multiple
deals
or
there
might
be
a
student
athlete
that
only
has
a
single
deal.
So
it's
a
cross-section
of
disclosures.
A
Okay,
and
do
we
know
what
we're
seeing
is
like
an
average
rate
of
what
these
deals
look
like.
G
Samuel
harris
associate
director
of
compliance,
unlv
specific
to
like
amounts,
dollar
amounts.
Yes,
it
varies
honestly,
I
think
in
some
of
the
revenue
sports
they're,
higher
dollar
deals
and
then
in
some
of
the
non-revenue
sports
lesser
amounts.
I
think
what
you're
also
seeing
is
sometimes
it's
gear.
Sometimes
it's
a
free
meal
in
exchange
for
a
service,
I
think
sometimes
it's
15
off
of
business.
So
it's
not
necessarily
a
monetary
value,
but
in
fact
you
know
maybe
another
sort
of
item
of
exchange.
A
Okay,
good
too,
thank
you
and
one
last
question
with
the
your
relationship
with
no
cap
and
the
student
who
actually
compensates
no
cap
is
that
on
the
student
side,
is
that
on
the
institution
side.
H
Casey
floyd
chief
compliance
officer,
no
cap
sports.
We
only
make
money
from
the
brands.
We
don't
charge
the
schools,
we
don't
charge
the
athletes.
We
only
make
money
from
the
brands
that
do
deals
on
the
platform.
So,
if
a
brand,
just
for
example,
let's
say
nike
paid
an
athlete
a
hundred
dollars
to
promote
their
product,
they
would
pay
us
fifteen
dollars
as
a
separate
service
fee.
The
athlete
would
get
all
hundred
dollars
that
they
negotiated
and
then
that
nike
would
pay
us
fifteen
dollars
on
the
side
for
hosting
the
platform
bringing
everyone
together.
H
A
All
right,
we
are
good,
you
guys
are
free.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
This
afternoon,
all
right.
We
are
going
to
move
on
to
agenda
item
seven,
which
is
a
presentation
on
business
and
marketing
related
to
name
image
and
likeness
use.
We
have
rob
sign
of,
and
francisco
aguilar
from
blueprint
sports
joining
us
for
this
presentation.
A
Please
go
ahead
whenever
you
are
ready,
looks
like
we
just
have
it.
Are
you,
mr
sign.
J
J
J
Welcome
good
afternoon
committee
members,
thank
you
for
having
me
here
today.
My
name
is
rob
sein.
I
am
the
co-founder
of
blueprint
sports.
We
are
a
nevada-based,
nil
marketing
agency.
J
My
background
includes
time
in
the
professional
and
collegiate
sports
world,
including
the
pac-12
conference
for
three
years.
I
am
gene
learfield,
who
are
the
largest
multimedia
rights
holders
for
colleges
across
the
country
for
three
years
and
then
several
stints
in
professional
sports
as
well
too.
On
the
revenue
side,
our
company
is
backed
and
supported
locally
by
andre
agassi
here
in
las
vegas,
and
we
have
been
in
existence
since
2020
in
preparation
for
nil
and
we
power
currently
five
collectives
around
the
country,
including
unlv
nevada,
reno,
tennessee,
gonzaga
and
arizona
and
I'll
kind
of
walk.
J
The
committee
a
little
bit
more
through
that
and
how
we've
been
preparing
and
what
we've
seen
across
the
country
since
the
beginning
of
or
since
the
beginning
of
nil,
with
july
of
2021.
J
So
can
you,
if
you
guys,
can
all
see
the
screen
perfect,
so
the
evolution
of
an
il
has
come
fast
and
furious
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
pivoting.
That's
occurred
across
the
country,
including
with
our
own
company.
We
started
out
as
a
traditional
marketing
agency
allowing
student
athletes
to
be
on
a
social
on
a
platform
of
social
mobile
marketplace
that
allowed
them
to
find
brands
and
businesses
and
use
sports
families
to
do
sports
training
across
the
country.
J
At
the
behest
of
several
donors,
we
began
to
build
collective
efforts
around
helping
to
work
with
student
athletes
on
a
larger
scale
level
to
provide
more
opportunities,
more
deal
and
more
financial
resources
available
to
them.
So
in
in
july
of
21,
you
saw
it
begin
right
out
of
the
gate
midnight
that
night
there
were.
There
were
student
athletes
who
had
large
social
media
followings
all
across
the
country
announcing
deals
in
new
york
city
with
with
cell
phone
companies
and
all
sorts
of
different
brands
that
were
doing
six
seven
figure
deals.
J
You
then
started
to
see
team-wide
deals
that
were
done
for
entire
football
teams
and
programs
like
that,
for
example,
byu.
There
was
a
company
that
came
in
and
compensated
all
the
walk-on
student
athletes
to
be
able
to
be
quote,
unquote:
scholarship
student
athletes
by
taking
part
in
their
in
their
program
with
them.
You
then.
J
Sorry
getting
this
fixed,
thank
you.
J
He
then
started
to
see
collectives
launched
in
september
of
that
year,
and
so
the
gator
collective
university
of
florida
became
one
of
the
first
ones
and
one
of
the
features
that
was
unique
to
them
at
the
time
it
was
crowdsourcing
and
marketplace
funding,
so
people
could
sign
up
and
have
subscriptions
to
get
unique
kind
of
red
rope
access
to
student
athletes
that
nobody
else
could
get
and
they're
at
the
point
now,
where
they're
doing
about
forty
thousand
dollars
in
a
month
for
from
a
crowdfunding
standpoint
that
go
back
into
the
collective
that
are
used
to
hire
the
student
athletes
to
do
charitable
appearances
and
engagements
across
the
city
and
in
the
winter
of
21,
you
began
to
see
more
and
more
groups
open
doors.
J
Open
doors
is
an
example
of
a
company
who's
been
around
for
a
long
time,
they're.
What
I
would
call
bulletin
board
companies,
so
student
athletes
post
themselves
on
there
list
their
social
media
statistics,
their
links
to
their
their
platforms
and
companies
and
brands
come
on
there
and
look
for
opportunities
to
work
with
them
and,
as
some
comments
have
been
made
earlier,
the
idea
is
that
the
the
more
engagement,
the
more
of
a
social
media,
follow.
You
know,
influencer,
you
are
the
more
opportunities
you'd
have
from
that
standpoint.
J
It's
a
slippery
slope,
and
so
you
know
now
there
is
a
convergence
of
nil
and
what
I
would
call
traditional
school
policies
as
far
as
how
to
be
able
to
enforce
stay
on
top
of
help.
Coaches
make
sure
they're
doing
things
correctly
and
permissibly
the
efforts
that
the
unlv
compliance
office
and
others
are
doing
to
help
make
sure
that
everybody
stays
focused
and
is
following
procedures.
J
With
the
evolution
of
collectives
of
boosters,
now
being
involved
and
calling
themselves
different
things
and
approaching
this
differently,
so
it
has
become
a
complicated
wild
west
for
sure,
and
so
there's
good
opportunity
to
begin
to
try
and
figure
out
how
this
can
be.
This
can
be
organized
more,
but
you
know
from
my
opinion.
I
think
the
ncaa
is
going
to
continue
to
stand
on
the
sidelines,
and
I
think
that
the
federal
government
is
not
going
to
get
involved
at
any
any
time
in
the
near
future.
J
There
are
rules
that
are
that.
You
know
we
work,
like
I
said,
mentioned
the
five
collectives
across
the
country
currently,
and
there
are
some
instances
where
coaches
are
in
meetings
with
us,
along
with
athletic
directors
and
school
presidents
and
others
where
there
is
not.
There
is
more
of
an
arm's
length
relationship.
In
fact,
there
are
some
where
we
don't
have
any
contact
at
all
with
the
school.
J
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
mixed
bag,
but
beginning
to
provide
some
clarity.
The
one
thing
we
do
constantly
here
and
I'll
walk
through
this
from
the
schools
is,
we
need
direction.
We
need
something
we
can
hang
our
hat
on,
but
then,
as
we've
also
mentioned
earlier,
we've
seen
several
states
already
look
to
change
their
state
laws
because
of
the
the
outcry
back
from
the
schools
saying
we
don't
have
a
competitive
advantage
anymore
or
behind
the
eight
ball.
So
there's
a
lot
a
lot
going
into
it.
J
So
for
us,
when
we
look
at
nil,
collectively
and
like
this
could
always
be
debated,
but
we
think
there's
really
four
types
of
companies
that
are
out
there.
The
first
one
is
marketplaces,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
where
you
get
a
chance
to
post
yourself
up
on
a
platform
and
wait
for
opportunities
to
come
to
you.
J
The
second
are
companies
that
are
helping
with
compliance
and
doing
their
best
to
record
opportunities
and
get
them
back
to
the
compliance
office
to
make
sure
that
they
stay
permissible.
According
to
the
interpreter,
the
interim
policy,
the
ncaa,
put
out
the
state
policy
policy
if
it
exists
or
the
school
policy
if
they've
written
it.
The
third
is
education
organizations
who
have
come
up
and
said
hey.
How
do
we
put
together
curriculum
designed
to
help
the
student
athletes?
A
lot
of
the
comments
that
we've
heard
so
far
today
about
taxes
are
not
a
recommendation?
J
They're,
a
law.
You
need
to
make
sure
you're
following
things
like
that,
and
the
last
is
agents
agents.
You
know
we
work
with
a
number
of
programs
across
the
country
or
student
athletes
who
have
agents
and
understanding
what
their
involvement
is,
what
their
position
and
how
they're
they're
they're
approaching
this
moving
forward.
J
So
there's
a
lot
of
different
types
of
companies
that
are
out
there.
Our
belief
is
in
the
next
year,
or
so
you'll
see
this
condensed
down
to
you
know
a
smaller
number
that
are
able
to
provide
more
of
a
robust
solution
back
to
the
athletic
departments
or
not
the
athletic
departments
to
the
student
athletes
to
help
support
athletics
and
make
sure
they're
doing
things
from
a
permissible
level.
J
But
it's
been
there's
been
a
lot
of
companies
that
have
risen
up
to
look
to
see
how
they
could
fit
into
this,
and
so
it's
become
a
crowded
marketplace
and
there's
a
lot
of
misinformation
that
goes
around
as
far
as
who's
doing
what
and
who's
helping
and
who's
truly
making
an
impact.
But
for
us,
we've
done
our
best
to
collect
this
into
four
categories
that
we
have
here
for
you
guys
today.
J
So
for
a
student
athlete.
Some
of
this
is
repetitive,
which
you
guys
have
already
heard
earlier,
but
we
look
at
that
and
say:
there's
four
challenges
that
student
athletes
have
today.
The
first
is
awareness
of
opportunities,
so
including
one
of
the
questions
that
was
asked
earlier.
A
lot
of
people
sit
there
and
say
well.
These
are
only
for
the
influence
or
student
athletes
who
have
a
million
followers
on
tick
tock.
It's
not
true.
These
are
also
for
the
star-studded
players
on
sports
programs.
It's
not
true,
so
their
their
belief
is
well.
J
This
isn't,
for
me,
I'm
not
going
to
get
any
opportunities
or
or
I'm
gonna
go
and
try
and
go
out
and
do
something
that
I
think
is
is
the
right
thing
for
me:
go
get
a
trade
for
a
tv
or
go.
Do
some
marketing,
for
you
know
local
restaurant.
I
like
things
like
that,
they'll
take
it
in
their
own,
their
own
hands.
J
The
second
tax
implications,
as
we've
talked
about.
There
are
different
methods.
Student
athletes
are
getting
paid,
everything
from
venmo
paypal,
stripe
cash
and
not
all
companies
that
are
doing
it
are
assisting
the
student
athletes.
So
suddenly
there's
a
myriad
of
challenges
that
they
have
with
wait.
Didn't
I
do
an
event
last
month
and
did
I
get
paid
for
that
and,
if
so
where's,
that?
How
do
I
report
that?
Do
I
have
to
report
it?
J
The
lack
of
guidance,
so
athletic
departments
very
few
of
them-
have
a
full-time,
committed,
nil,
coordinator
or
active
compliance
office.
That
is
really
involved
in
helping
to
make
sure
that
the
education
and
the
programs
are
put
in
place
to
provide
solutions,
and
the
last
is
the
predatory
companies
groups
that
are
out
there
that
are
not
looking
for
the
student
athletes
best
interests
that
are
looking
to
simply
make
sure
that
they
have
what
they
need
to
get
done.
J
We've
had
contracts
presented
to
us
that
student
athletes
here
locally
have
been
approached
with,
and
I
wouldn't
have
my
worst
enemies
sign
it,
because
there
were
too
many
things
in
there
that
were
that
were
going
to
hold
them
things.
Like
I
own
your
exclusive
rights
for
the
next
three
years,
you
can
only
drive
in
a
car
with
me
to
appearances.
J
You
can't
go
by
yourself,
just
wacky
stuff,
that
student-athletes
have
no
understanding,
and
so
they
come
to
trusted
resources,
whether
compliance
offices,
which
can
only
do
so
much
or
groups
like
us
or
others
that
are
out
there-
that
are
looked
at
to
be
to
be
helpful
for
them.
So
we
found
these
are
really
kind
of,
and
we
put
these
into
the
categories
as
four
challenges
for
them.
J
The
next
thing
we
have
is
what
I
say.
I
use
the
word
fears
on
purpose,
because
I
look
at
college
athletics
during
my
time
and
I've
been
around
it
and
there's
a
lot
of
concern.
There's
a
lot
of
people
worried
right
now,
there's
groups
that
are
worried
about.
What's
this,
what
is
nil,
going
to
do
to
my
fundraising
levels
on
campus?
What's
it
going
to
do
to
our
multimedia
rights
guarantee?
What's
it
going
to
do
to
our
coaching?
J
We've
had
comments
made
before
that
collectives
and
nil
is
going
to
become
the
most
powerful
thing
in
college
athletics
in
the
next
few
years,
because
it's
really
going
to
drive,
recruits
coaches
and
school
popularity,
but
number
one
is
the
compliance
we've
heard
this
today.
So
the
idea
that
you
know,
I
think
it's
challenging.
I
have
teenage
daughters
and
I
can't
get
them
to
answer
the
phone
when
I
call
them
much
less.
Have
somebody
who's
in
college
produce
a
report
or
submit
to
a
compliance
office
that
they're
getting
an
offer?
J
J
These
student
athletes
in
in
the
athletic
departments
are
saying:
please
give
us
guidance
and
there's
not
much
out
there
right
now
and
the
last
is
in
certain
instances,
there's
coaches
as
bad
actors
who
are
going
out
there
and
saying
you
know,
don't
worry
about
what
the
policies
are.
Let's
go
ahead
and
get
this
deal
done.
We
haven't
come
across
that
yet
personally,
as
a
company,
but
we've
seen
this
read
this
and
heard
about
this
across
the
country.
J
J
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
pride
ourselves
on
and
that
we
talk
a
lot
about
when
it
comes
to
nil,
is
that
95
percent
of
student
athletes
aren't
getting.
This
offer
aren't
getting
the
800
000,
the
top
five
percent
across
the
country
in
their
sport
it
could
be
softball,
baseball,
swimming
gymnastics,
basketball,
you
name,
it
are
getting
these
opportunities
in
different
different
levels,
but
the
foundational
programs
which
we're
a
fan
of
us.
How
do
you
sit
there
and
address
things
like
living
expenses
and
general
general
opportunities
for
the
student
athletes?
J
We
helped
to
put
together
a
program
for
the
unlv
men's
basketball
team
last
year
that
was
backed
by
findlay
automotive
and
logic.
Commercial
real
estate
here
in
las
vegas
that
provided
every
member
of
the
men's
basketball
team,
including
the
walk-ons
500
a
month
in
exchange
for
appearances
and
engagements
throughout
the
community
during
the
season
and
the
feedback
from
the
team,
was
that
it
took
some
pressure
off
of
them.
It
was
nice
to
know
that
they
had
this
on
a
regular
basis
and
they
are
working
directly
to
say:
okay
where's
our
appearance
next
month.
J
What
are
we
doing?
Who
are
we
engaging
with?
What
are
the
opportunities
that
are
out
there
and
so
programs
like
that?
We
believe
really
make
a
foundational
difference.
Rising
tide
lifts
all
boats.
If
you
continue
to
make
make
student
athletes
and
programs
stronger.
This
is
a
great
way
to
have
a
positive
impact
from
nil.
Other
examples.
We've
had
there
are
34
35
members
of
a
soccer
team
and
there's
nine
scholarships.
J
So
how
do
you
spread
that
around
or
you
look
at
base
college
baseball
teams
that
have
some
of
the
same
challenges
as
well
too?
So
how
do
you
help
make
sure
your
student
athletes
are
paying
attention
to
their
academics,
they're,
making
sure
that
they
have
their
they're
handling
their
responsibilities
to
the
athletic
department
in
the
university
and
they're,
not
driving
door
dash
during
class
or
on
the
weekends
until
two
or
three
o'clock
in
the
morning,
because
they're
not
able
to
make
ends
meet?
J
J
So
our
company
specifically
gets
together
with
groups
of
donors,
supporters
businesses
and
helps
put
together
a
compliant
and
structured
program
around
their
athletic
the
athletic
program
and
focuses
on
the
sports
that
they
want
to
focus
on.
They
raise
oftentimes
several
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
if
not
millions
of
dollars
together
and
then
work
with
us
to
deploy
it
in
a
compliant
manner
back
to
the
student
athletes
and
to
help
them
continue
to
make
sure
that
they
have
some
foundational
and
some
merit-based
programs.
J
If
there
is
somebody
that
they're
in
that
they're
in
charge
of
that,
they
think
is
not
in
charge
of,
but
a
fan
of
that
they
think
is
really.
You
know
worthy
of
a
good
opportunity.
J
Collectives
are
not
affiliated
with
the
schools,
we
don't
need
an
athletic
department
to
say.
Yes,
we
want
to
work
with
you
guys,
but
we
prefer
to
be
in
good
harmony
with
the
athletic
department.
We
understand
what
their
mission
and
goals
are
and,
while
they're
not
always
directly
aligned
together.
The
idea
is,
how
do
you
play
nice
in
the
sandbox
so
this
week,
like,
for
example,
unlv
we
have
every
two
week.
Compliance
calls
to
have
conversations
with
eric
and
sam
and
their
team
to
ask
questions
to
share
information
that
we're
hearing.
J
If
they
have
questions
for
us
they're
able
to
do
that,
we
understand
fundraising
goals.
We
understand
working
with
multimedia
rights
partners,
we've
had
instances
with
some
of
our
collectives,
where
we've
ended
up
writing
a
check
to
the
multimedia
department,
the
learfield
group.
That's
on
campus
in
order
to
do
something
around
a
spring
football
game.
So
it's
best
for
us
to
work
in
harmony
with
athletic
department
and
understand
their
goals
and
objectives,
but
we
are
not
directly
affiliated
with
them
and
operate
outside
of
their
their
purview.
J
So
we
call
our
collectives
friends
of,
and
we
have
five
currently
we've
yet
to
to
continue
to
change
a
few
of
these
that
are
out
there.
But
the
friendzo
program
is
powered
by
us
and
we
handle
a
number
of
things
that
we'll
walk
you
guys
through.
But
we've
got
the
friends
of
baseballs
at
tennessee
friends
of
spike
at
gonzaga,
friends
of
the
pack
at
nevada,
friends
of
unilv,
here
locally
and
then
friends
of
wilbur,
wilma
with
the
university
of
arizona
and
each
one
is
focused
to
make
sure
that
we
are.
J
So
our
approach
again
is
full.
Transparency
is
making
sure
that
we
work,
for
example,
within
university
or
unlv
we're
working
with
the
student
athletes
to
make
sure
they
follow
the
right
reporting
procedure
and
the
process
for
compliance
that
they've
made
requests
on.
So
we
provide
the
student
athletes
with
their
materials.
J
They
then
go
back
and
report
it
through
another
third
party.
We
also
have
the
ability
to
pipe
the
compliance
of
the
offers
right
into
compliance
for
acceptance
or
denial,
approval
et
cetera,
and
the
last
part
is
education,
tax
reporting
and
opportunity
vetting
really
going
through
and
making
sure
that
we're
working
we
have
local
teams
in
each
town.
We
work
in.
So
this
isn't
something
where
we
do
it
remotely
from
a
different
state
or
a
different
city.
The
idea
is,
how
do
you
get
embedded
into
a
community
really
truly
understand
the
student
athletes
their
needs?
J
Their
wants,
understand,
athletics,
their
needs,
their
wants
and
work
together
to
create
a
harmonious
program
that
is
compliant
and
works
together,
but
we
handle
everything
from
the
deals
being
accepted
or
coming
to
us.
We
handle
everything
from
the
appearances
things
like
making
sure
the
student
athletes
know
what
to
wear
on
an
appearance.
None
of
you
guys
may
or
may
not
be
surprised,
but
student
athletes
don't
know
what
they
should
wear.
What
should
they
say?
Do
they
have
sharpies
with
them
when
they
actually
need
to
sign
autographs?
J
Do
we
need
to
call
an
uber
to
make
sure
they
get
there
on
time?
Things
like
that.
So
we
consider
ourselves
a
third
or
fourth
parent
at
times,
but
the
idea
is
to
help
make
sure
that
we
teach
them
how
to
be
professionals
off
the
field
off
the
court
outside
the
gym,
as
well
as
they're
learning.
What
they're
learning
while
they're
currently
at
school
tax
reporting,
is
an
interesting
one,
because
a
lot
of
people
can
do
the
1099s.
J
J
So
you
know
our
answers
to
facing
to
challenges
that
face
student
athletes
are
four-fold,
so
one
our
collectives
are
non-exclusive.
The
student-athletes
do
not
sign
their
way.
Their
rights
to
work
with
us,
it's
a
free
market.
They
can
work
with
whoever
they
want
to.
So
they
opt
into
the
programs
that
we
have,
even
with
programs
like
the
the
car
allowance
program
that
we
called
that
we
mentioned
earlier,
the
team-wide
foundational
deal.
J
We
had
student
athletes
who
would
opt
out
of
it
each
month
if
they
had
a
conflict
or
one
of
the
student
athletes
had
an
agent,
and
so
it
wasn't
a
good
fit
that
month,
whatever
the
case
might
be,
so
we
come
to
them
and
bring
opportunities
to
them,
instead
of
them
having
to
sit
back
and
wait
for
wait
for
somebody
to
knock
on
their
door
and
say,
hey,
I
think
you're,
pretty
good
I'd
like
to
work
with
you,
the
second.
J
I
talked
about
the
tax
implications,
about
how
us
withholding
taxes
and
then
being
able
to
make
quarterly
payments,
because
we
have
the
dedicated
team
in
market
who
works
with
athletics,
who
understands
from
a
national
perspective
as
well
things
that
are
happening.
We're
able
to
sit
there
and
be
that
resource
for
the
student
athletes
again,
hey
I've
got
a
contract
that
somebody
offered
me.
Will
you
guys
take
a
look
at
it?
Hey
I'm
not
sure
how
to
handle
this.
Would
you
guys
you
know,
help
me
with
this?
J
We
also
bring
in
experts
and
resources
to
talk
about
the
unlv
men's
football
team.
The
graduating
seniors
last
year
were
were
able
to
earn
a
free
custom-made
or
custom-made
dress
suit,
from
a
local
from
a
former
alumni
and
a
local
businessman
in
town,
and
one
of
the
things
that
were
required
by
the
student
athletes
was
to
go
through
financial
literacy
online
course,
and
so
they
were
able
to
begin
to
understand
what
it
was
they
were
getting
into
and
they
were
able
to
graduate
and
we
were
able
to
help
send
them
off
in
style.
J
They
had,
they
had
a
brand
new
custom
made
dress
suit
and
we
had
student
athletes
crying
in
the
dressing
room
on
the
phone
with
their
parents.
Saying
I've
never
had
this
opportunity
before.
So
when
you
get
a
chance
to
help
change
some
lives
and
do
things
like
this
and
help
educate
them
and
prepare
them
for
the
future.
That
gets.
You
really
excited
to
be
able
to
know
that
you're
in
this,
for
the
right
reasons,
and
the
last
is
the
predatory
companies
you
know
with
us
being
the
collective.
J
You
know
we've
done
over
100
and
some
odd.
You
know
transactions
here
at
unlv,
for
example,
and
with
other
programs
around
the
country
and
our
numbers
begin
to
become
some
of
the
dominant
ones
that
are
done.
So
we
handle
most
of
the
transactions
at
the
properties
that
we're
at
we're
able
to
begin
to
make
sure
that
they
know
that
if
there's
a
trusted
resource
they
can
go
to,
they
have
options.
J
Also,
businesses
brands
that
are
looking
for
opportunities
know
to
come
to
the
friends
of
program.
That's
where
you
start
to
have
that
conversation,
so
it
begins
to
galvanize
the
community.
It
begins
to
build
a
container
that
allows
everyone
to
know.
There's
a
trusted
source
to
work.
The
student
athletes.
We
can
trust
the
compliance
it's
going
to
be
met
the
right
way.
We
can
trust
that
tax
reporting
is
going
to
be
handled
the
right
way
and
we
can
trust
that
student
athletes
are
actually
going
to
do
what
we're
hiring
them
to
do.
J
And
then
you
know
some
solutions
we
have
for
for
athletic
departments,
one
compliance
we
talked
about
it,
two
rogue
fans
and
alumni
really
enabled
to
organize
just
the
right
way
have
leadership
in
place.
J
We
create
advisory
boards
around
each
collective
that
allow
us
to
work
with
and
have
a
barrier
between
athletics,
because
it's
not
always
permitted
that
we
have
conversations
with
coaches
or
with
with
athletic
department
personnel,
but
it
allows
us
to
go
through
and
to
kind
of
flush
out
the
rogue
fans
and
alumni
who
may
be
off
trying
to
build
something
on
their
own
and
take
kids
to
go.
Do
appearances
at
bars
and
things
like
that,
instead,
we
have.
We
have
much
better
solutions
in
place
for
them
to
do
charitable
appearances
and
other
engagements
in
the
community.
J
J
Do
you
have
any
suggestions,
what
you
know
and
we're
able
to
get
the
limit
of
what
they're
able
to
bring
back
to
us
so
that
we
avoid
putting
student
athletes
in
compromising
situations
and
then
the
last
one
is
keeping
coaches
from
being
bad
actors,
maintaining
accountability
through
over
communication
and
then
also
truly
understanding?
What
is
what
are
the
goals
and
the
objectives?
J
Frankly,
one
of
the
things
that's
happening
is
that
coaches
are
looking
at
this
and
saying:
okay,
what
is
my
official
program?
That's
in
place
that
I'm
able
to
point
recruits
to
when
I
go
through
the
transfer
portal
or
I
go
through
you
know
traditional
in
or
out
of
season,
recruiting
processes
happen.
J
The
number
one
question
that
recruiting
coordinators
are
getting
for
sports
programs
across
the
country
and
coaches
are
getting
is
what
is
your
nil
program
what's
in
place
and
if
it's
not
marketed
the
right
way,
and
it's
not
put
out
there
with
proven
results
correctly,
coaches
sometimes
will
begin
to
resort
to
their
own
means.
We
haven't.
We
haven't
experienced
that
again
as
a
company,
but
we've
read
about
it
and
heard
about
it
where
coaches
are
are
really
concerned,
that
they
don't
have
this
program
put
in
place
and
they
go
and
they
do
their
own
thing.
J
So,
with
this
way,
we're
able
to
educate
the
coaching
staff
provide
them
with
direction
where
they
can
point
recruits
and
current
former
and
future
student
athletes
too.
To
say:
look:
this
is
our
nil
program.
It's
compliant!
It's
permissible!
Here's,
the
organization,
how
it's
set
up,
here's
the
resources
they
bring
to
bear
and
it
takes
the
pressure
off
them
to
have
to
go,
do
something
they
wouldn't
want
to
do
naturally.
J
So
at
the
end,
I
really
think
that
this
is
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
you
all
and
from
a
recommendation
standpoint
to
help
keep
nevada
at
the
forefront
of
nil.
There's
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
continue
to
be
able
to
change
and
to
empower
the
student
athletes
to
make
a
difference
in
the
community.
Again,
this
isn't
all
about
going
out
and
getting
car
dealers
it's
about.
How
can
you
work
with?
How
can
you
do
use
sports
coaching?
J
How
can
you
go
out
and
work
with
non-profits
and
organizations
who
who
love
your
your
institution
and
love
the
team
that
you're
a
part
of
now
and
revere
you
for
your
hard
work
and
effort
you've
been
putting
into
this
to
get
to
this
point
in
your
career,
and
so
at
that
point,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
you
all
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
very
thorough
presentation.
Let's
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
any
questions.
Do
we
have
members
questions
comments.
D
Thank
you,
dexter,
irvin
csn.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
by
the
way,
a
couple
of
questions.
How
how
does
the
effective
in
our
small
institution,
we
don't
get
any
state
funding
and
we
rely
really
heavily
on
corporate
sponsors,
and
so
how
does?
How
does
your
program
affect
those
corporate
sponsors?
D
I
know
unlv
and
unr
have
extensive
corporate
sponsorships
with
learfield
and
others,
and
but
they
also
get
a
large
subsidies
from
the
states
which
we,
quite
frankly
don't,
and
so
it
concerns
me
as
a
small
college
guy
that
the
corporate
sponsorships
evaporate,
because
the
nil
deals
are
going
to
the
students
and
then
we
can't
fund
the
program
for
for
everyone.
Does
that
make
sense.
J
J
The
second
is
really
crowdfunding.
Folks
that
could
live
all
around
the
country
that
want
to
that
want
to.
You
know,
contribute
ten
dollars:
five
dollars,
twenty
five
dollars
a
hundred
dollars,
one
time
or
a
month,
and
the
third
is
corporate
partnerships
with
all
of
those.
Each
one
raises
a
red
flag
around
the
campus
because
they
think
what
does
this
do
to
cut
into
the
current?
You
know
pie
that
I've
grown
here
and
worked
so
hard
over
the
years
to
build.
We
believe
and
approach
this
as
an
and
conversation.
J
J
There
is
going
to
be
a
movement
in
the
future,
though,
where
brands,
who
have
had
only
access
to
look
like
they
support
athletic
programs
by
doing
multimedia
rights,
deals
they're,
going
to
begin
to
see
that
the
most
valuable
piece
that
is
the
student
athlete
himself
or
herself
and
beginning
to
work
with
them
could
perhaps
provide
a
better
impact.
So
I
think
that
that
is
something
to
be
very
aware
of
so
you're
spot
on
with
that.
But
I
also
think
it's
about
how
you
have
an
end
conversation
as
much
as
possible.
J
Continue
to
support,
continue
to
be
an
official
sponsor,
and
these
are
opportunities
to
engage
and
work
with
student
athletes
directly
and
I've
also
seen
multimedia
rights.
Companies
begin
to
insert
solutions
into
that
to
help
with
social
media
opportunities
that
can
give
some
of
the
brands.
The
ability
to
do
both
continue
to
be
an
official
athletic
sponsor
and
work
with
some
of
the
student
athletes
via
social
media.
D
Thank
you,
the
specific
one
that
you
mentioned
for
unlv
men's
basketball.
Again,
it's
a
whole
different
world
for
us
in
smaller
environments,
but
they
they
haven't,
been
specific
or
haven't
been
as
and
oriented.
If
that
makes
sense,
we've
we've
run
into
as
the
as
the
market
has
grown
in
in
in
las
vegas,
with
professional
sports,
the
money's
trickling
up
and
not
down,
and
so
that
becomes
kind
of
a
greater
challenge
for
us.
Thank
you.
D
The
second
part
of
my
question
you
mentioned
again
an
unintended
consequence,
and
so
in
in
your
agreements,
for
example,
you
said
a
student
may
not
show
up,
so
you
have
to
call
an
uber
well
and
that
used
to
be
a
violation
of
extra
benefits.
D
So
is
that
now
part
of
the
agreement
that
you
put
together
does
that
make
sense,
in
other
words,
you're
controlling
the
appearances
right,
and
so,
if
dexter
doesn't
show
up,
and
you
call
an
uber
for
dexter
now
we
committed
a
violation
or
is
that
built
into
the
agreement
already?
Does
that
make
sense.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Again
rob
sign
co-founder
of
blueprint
sports.
That
is
a
part
of
the
program
that's
built.
So
when
a
we
don't
control
the
engagement.
The
third
party
comes
to
us
and
says
I
want
to
work
with
you.
Student
athletes
or
the
donors
pull
together
money.
That
say
we
want
the
student
athletes
to
go,
do
appearances,
and
so
a
contract
is
built
for
every
one
of
these
and
there
are
contingencies
put
into
it.
J
That
say,
if
you're
not
able
to
get
there,
if
you
don't
have
transportation,
an
uber
will
be
provided
as
part
of
this
deal
that
you're
doing
again,
all
of
which
is
signed
off
on
by
compliance
ahead
of
time.
The
if
I
go
back
real
quick
to
your
last
question
again
about
the
the
corporate
partnership,
specifically
the
pie,
getting
smaller
again,
I
think
that's.
Why
that's
why?
J
It's
a
low-hanging
fruit
that
that
everybody
wants
to
call
on
and
go
after
the
example
with
the
men's
basketball
team,
with
findlay
automotive
they're,
a
large
sponsor
of
unlv
athletics
and
pretty
much
everything
else
here
in
town,
and
they
wanted
to
put
together
this
program
where
they
went
out
to
help
find
other
donors
to
be
a
part
of
this
and
fans
and
supporters
to
be
a
part
of
this
as
well
too.
So
they
weren't
having
to
foot
the
whole
bill
was.
It
was
truly
the
collective
approach.
E
Eric
napo
rob
thanks
for
all
this
information
good
to
see
you
here
today.
I
really
feel
like
our
spaces
balance
each
other
out
right,
we're
on
campus
practitioners,
you're
kind
of
out
there
in
the
trenches.
E
I
appreciate
how
you
ended
this
in
terms
of
nevada
must
continue
to
be
at
the
forefront
of
nil
and
I'll.
Take
it
back
to
your
first
slide
that
talked
about
the
evolution
of
nil.
So
if
you
were
to
kind
of
peek
around
the
corner
and
build
out,
you
know
slides
seven
and
eight.
Where
do
you
think
this
is
headed.
J
Thank
you
again,
rob
sign
blueprint
sports,
that's
a
that's
a
loaded
question
right.
I
I
made
the
comment
earlier.
That's
my
personal
belief
that
the
ncaa
isn't
going
to
isn't
going
to
step
in
to
create
additional
rules
or
official
rules.
Anytime
soon
I
could
be
surprised
tomorrow
could
have
broken.
While
we
were
in
this
meeting.
J
I
don't
believe
that
that,
from
a
federal
standpoint,
it's
going
to
happen
within
the
next
year
or
two.
My
belief
is
that
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
what
you
see.
Now
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
in
this
in
this
purview
that
where
it
is
up
to
the
states
to
help
build
a
program
that,
on
one
hand,
is
supporting
their
institutions
and
putting
giving
the
student
athletes
the
opportunities
are
supposed
to
and
while
the
other
side
of
it,
keeping
keeping
them
competitive.
J
J
A
portion
of
that
begin
to
come
out
and
be
shared
directly
with
the
student
athletes,
so
that
is
something
that
I've
heard.
I
don't
know
anything
about
that
that
is
actually
happening,
but,
as
you
look
ahead,
when
I
joined
the
pac-12
conference,
they
went
from
10
to
12
schools
and
the
pac-12
network
wasn't
was
was
born.
J
You
start
to
look
at
some
of
the
money
that
comes
out
of
these
next
round
of
negotiations
and
the
programming
for
these.
These
tv
networks-
and
you
begin
to
think
about
well,
instead
of
three
million
dollars
a
year
getting
given
to
each
member
of
the
of
the
conference
or
whatever
the
amount
would
be,
what
if
x
percent
was
taken
out
and
paid
equitably
across
the
student
athlete
base
on
campus
because
they're
the
ones
that
are
helping
to
build
that
programming
along
with
the
institutions.
J
So
that's
one
thing
that
I
continue
to
believe
could
be
a
discussion
point
in
the
future,
but
I
don't
have
anything
to
know
that.
That's
truly
going
to
happen
right
this.
Second,
it's
a
guess
at
this
point.
I
think
collectives
are
here
to
stay.
I
think
the
the
decision
behind
them
is
going
to
be
the
benefits
behind
them
is
one
they're
proactive
for
student
athletes.
So
this
isn't
just
a
star-studded
deal,
it's
the
other
95
percent
of
student-athletes.
How
do
you
go
out
and
do
programs
like
at
unlv?
J
For
example,
we
focus
on
football,
men's
basketball,
women's
basketball,
men's
and
women's
soccer
golf
and
baseball.
So
while
that's
on
every
sport,
that's
a
good
start,
and
so
the
idea
is,
how
do
you
really
put
efforts
into
and
build
at
a
grassroots
level,
to
use
your
phrase,
supporters
together?
That
can
help
support
more
than
just
the
football
team
or
more
than
just
the
quarterback
or
the
point
guard
or
the
softball
pitcher,
whatever
the
case
might
be,
so
I
think
collectives
are
here
to
stay.
J
I
think
tv
revenues
are
going
to
be
analyzed
and
looked
at
as
far
as
given
to
student
athletes.
I
think
it
creates
a
whole
new
can
of
worms.
Then
you
start
to
get
into
our
student
athletes
employees
things
like
that.
So
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
twists
and
turns,
but
I
can
almost
guarantee
you
eric
to
finish
on
this
question
that
it
will
not
be
the
same
as
we
sit
here
today
on
april
28th
by
this
time
next
year.
A
A
So,
with
that
being
completed,
we
will
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item,
which
is
agenda,
item
eight,
and
it
is
public
comment
we're
going
to
open
up
for
our
second
round
of
public
comment.
If
you
are
listening
online
and
would
like
to
provide
public
comment,
please
call
669-900-6833.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
I'm
just
giving
a
pause,
making
sure
we
have
no
one,
and
I
think
we
are
clear
they
told
us
we're
clear
so
we're
going
to
keep
moving
forward.
We
are
coming
to
the
end
of
this
meeting,
so
thank
you
all
to
the
member
staff
and
everyone
who
testified
before
the
committee.
Today,
your
information
was
valuable
to
how
we
move
forward
again.
I
want
to
encourage
everyone
who
has
spoken
today,
if
you
have
recommendations
on
how
we
can
start
to
put
this
framework
together,
so
that
we
are
attractive
and
supportive
with
our
ni.
A
Nil
deals
our
athletic
programs
and
for
our
student
athletes.
Please
submit
that
to
our
committee
so
that
we
can
put
that
together
and
and
look
at
what
we
present
to
the
education
committee
as
a
whole.
A
An
archive
video
of
today's
meeting
will
be
available
online
and,
finally,
I
would
like
to
note
the
to
the
committee
members
that,
after
today's
discussions,
if
issues
pop
up
on
your
radar,
that
you
think
this
committee
may
be
interested
in
reviewing,
please
please
please
let
me
know-
and
our
next
meeting
will
be
on
thursday
may
26th
at
1
pm.
A
While
I
prefer
we
meet
in
person,
we
have
that
virtual
option
as
well.
So
please
do
whatever
you
can
to
participate.
My
staff
will
be
reaching
out
to
everyone
to
make
sure
we
know
what
your
preference
is.
That
concludes
our
business.
For
today,
again,
I
want
to
give
vice
chair
her
birthday
celebration
and
thank
you
for
tuning
in.
I
know
you're,
traveling
and
taking
care
of
the
grandbabies.
We
appreciate
you.