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A
B
Got
a
new
screen
and
just
realized
how
non-obvious
it
is
that
it
actually
works.
B
It
doesn't
have
to
buy
like
like
five
different
HDMI
cables
until
I
found
one
that
worked
and
then,
and
sometimes
it
still
laughs
at
me
awesome
do
we
want
to
give
folks
a
few
minutes
a
minute
or
two
or
something
like
that.
B
I
think
this
link
so
that
they're,
so
that
they
can
ask
questions
but
I
think
that
rock
and
Brian
might
be
also
moderating
checking.
If
there's
questions
on
other
channels.
E
D
C
Good
good
to
see
you
again
Ron
and
happy
to
see
the
new
faces
who
I
haven't
met
in
person.
Yet
hello.
B
I'm
trying
to
find
if
I
can
see
the
Googling
I
think
I
removed
it
for
the
one
like
the
people
will
be
able
to
join
the
Stream
Run.
B
Yeah
I
think,
as
as
we
usually
do,
I
mean
we
kind
of
kick
off
calling
out
the
latest
things
the
board
has
been
looking
at
and
then
really.
This
is
just
you
know,
time
for
folks
to
have
explicitly
to
kind
of
come
into.
A
panel
chat
discuss
talk
about
things
that
you
know.
B
We
should
be
looking
at
questions
for
the
foundation,
but
bottom
line,
just
like
brainstorming
and
and
hacking
time
if
we
need
it
with
that
happy
to
kick
off
and
kind
of
I
think
this
is
the
first
recorded
version
of
this
so
happy
to
kick
things
off.
Just
call
out
a
few
of
the
things
that
the
board
has
been
working
on
in
the
last
kind
of
like
two
weeks,
but
then
really
open
it
up
to
folks.
B
That
just
want
to
ask
any
question:
that's
on
their
mind,
we're
happy
to
talk
about
it
and
with
that
any
anything
else
from
folks
on
the
board
or
can
I
just
like
call
out
a
few
of
the
things
that
we've
been
looking
at.
B
Cool,
so
I'll
really
run
through
these
fast
because
it's
not
the
point
of
this
conversation,
it's
more
to
answer
questions,
but
if
there
are
no
questions
and
we'll
just
discuss
things
like,
we
would
in
any
other
board
one
of
the
top
priorities
that
we've
been
tackling
in
the
last
few
weeks
has
been
the
nixos
trademark.
B
So
we
have
started
already
to
work
with
a
team
that
is
helping
us
establish
the
trademark
in
the
in
the
main
main
countries
that
were
initially
going
for
out
of
that,
like
the
real
work,
that's
stemming
out
of
that
because
Nix
has
been
around
for
so
long
is
actually
defining
a
trademark
policy
and
and
kind
of
making
that
transparent.
So
everyone
can
use
it
for
the
benefit
of
the
community.
B
That's
on
trademark,
one
of
our
community
members
and
and
I
think
also
cheerfan
brought
up
a
an
effort
by
Google
called
season
of
docs,
so
we're
looking
into
that
to
apply
really
the
bottom
line
there
is
Google
is
apparently
potentially
funding,
doc
related
efforts
and
not
inside
like
open
source
community.
So
I
think
that's
that's
pretty
awesome.
B
If
anybody
wants
to
be
involved
in
that,
then
I
think
I'm,
probably
calling
him
out
without
checking
but
like
reach
out
to
the
docs
team
or
to
Valentine
next
20th,
so
happy
birthday,
Jericho.
Officially,
yesterday
we
we
started
off
the
next
20th
like
month
of
bursary.
B
There
is
a
huge
thread
on
the
next
discourse
about,
like
various
next
community
members
across
like
a
lot
of
different
cities
around
the
world
interested
in
meeting
up.
We
have
like
a
board
and
Foundation
effort
to
help
sponsor
these
meetups
and
just
help
get
people
together.
So
do
check
out
that
thread
if
it's
somehow
relevant.
B
If
you
want
to
join
a
Meetup
call
out
the
place
that
you've
you
would
like
to
join
and
if
you'd
like
to
organize
one
call
that
out
and
we'll
definitely
help
you
set
that
up
other
next
20th
things,
there's
a
bunch
of
things
going
on.
There's
a
group
kind
of
trying
to
work
together
on
it.
Reach
out
could
be
cool
scale
is
coming
up.
So
scale
is
one
of
the
larger
Linux
events
in
the
US
we
gotta
say:
nixos
booth.
B
There
is
a
bunch
of
folks
representing
Nick's
going
there,
but
if
other
Nix
community
members
want
to
join
the
more
the
merrier,
this
and
and
also
one
of
our
community
members
is
going
to
give
a
talk
there.
This
is
kind
of
trending
towards
a
bigger
thing
that
we're
looking
to
kind
of
brainstorm
and
see
how
we
can
do
better,
but
generally
representing
NYX
globally
right.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
events.
B
We
have
a
lot
of
community
members
close
to
a
lot
of
these
events
and
just
seeing
how
we
can
you
know
get
into
these
events,
either
give
a
talk,
get
a
table,
get
a
booth.
Something
like
that.
Then
again,
the
board
is
more
than
happy
to
collaborate
right
if
folks
hear
of
an
event
that
they
want
to
see
if
Nicks
can
be
part
of
then
reach
out
to
us,
we're
happy
to
reach
out
and
collaborate
together
to
the
organizers
and
see
if
we
can
set
something
up.
B
So
that's
been
successful
so
far
at
scale
state
of
open
convention
in
London
and
now
we're
also
potentially
getting
a
table
at
open
101
in
Charlotte
in
the
U.S
last
thing.
On
the
last
two
things,
we're
working
on
releasing
the
next
budget
to
be
fully
transparent
just
on
the
website,
so
also
happy
to
talk
about
that
and
we're
kicking
off
a
a
like
a
fundraising
effort
for
NYX,
part
of
which
is
also
going
towards
kind
of
like
the
first
higher
like
specific
hire
that
will
support
the
community.
B
That's
my
list,
I!
Don't
know
if
other
folks
had
top
of
Minds
that.
B
Cool
I
have
no
clue
if
we
have
questions
first
time
recorded,
so
we
might
just
be
talking
within
ourselves,
but
Brian
or
Rock
I'm,
assuming.
F
D
So
we'll
start
with
the
first
one
that
I
got
handed,
which
is
from
Full
per
cabriole,
full
Peak,
Gabrielle
I'm.
Sorry,
I'm
I
always
put
your
names,
but
the
question
is:
is
there
any
deadline
to
finally
make
flicks
the
only
way
to
use
Nyx?
D
F
So
there
is
no
deadline
on
that
and
in
fact
we
don't
intend
to
make
flakes
the
only
way
to
use
Nyx.
We
want
to
be
backwards
compatible.
So
certainly
it
will
always
be
possible
to
evaluate
non-flake
Nix
Expressions,
but
we
are
trying
to
stabilize
the
new
CLI
and
flakes
in
a
incremental
way
so
currently
we're
going
through
the
new,
CLI
and
sort
of
auditing.
All
the
new
commands
to
see
if
we
can
yeah
get
behind
declaring
them
to
be
stable
because
yeah
we
want
them
to
be
future
proof.
F
So
we
don't
want
to
stabilize
something
that
we
end
up,
regretting
so
yeah
that
that
process
is
now
ongoing
and
there's
no
hard
deadline
for
that,
but
yeah.
We
want
it
to
happen
as
quickly
as
possible.
Yeah.
D
B
A
great
question
so
we're
the
way
we're
looking
at
hiring
or
just
even
now
that
we're
doing
the
budgeting
and
allocating
right
funding
to
the
community
or
Community
related
efforts,
especially
on
the
hiring
part,
we're
looking
to
do
that
very
tiered.
Since
this
is
the
first
ever
NYX
OS
related
hire
in
like
20
years.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
a
we're
doing
it
minimally
and
then
getting
it
right
so
to
the
question.
B
The
first
tier
of
hiring
we're
looking
for
someone
who
can
support
the
foundation
at
like
an
admin
capacity
just
to
be
able
to
help
the
foundation
move
faster
kind
of
like
we
are
doing
a
lot
of
things
that
are
related
to
everything,
from
taxes
to
like
talking
to
Legal
about
trademark
and
payments,
and
these
are
a
lot
of
things
that
are
happening
so
I
think
that's
like
the
minimal
tier
right.
It's
not
even
a
full-time.
B
So,
there's
a
also
even
a
proposal
made
by
by
a
few
community
members
that
takes
the
role
and
grows
it
out
even
further
to
even
help
kind
of
like
manage
a
lot
of
areas
within
the
community
and
help
like
the
boots
on
the
ground,
to
empower
the
community
but,
like
I,
said
right,
we're
not
just
we're
kind
of
trying
to
be
thoughtful
about
the
the
stages
of
it
and,
depending
on
how
much
funding.
We
have
only
allocating
a
certain
budget
because
still
a
lot
of
that
budget
that
we
have.
B
B
B
Folks
have
like
follow-up
questions,
and
you
know
we
didn't
fully
give
the
answer
that
that
you
were
like
the
question
that
you
were
aiming
for,
do
do
re-ass.
Do
you
like
push
back
or
feel
free
to
also
like
yeah
push
back
on
on
thoughts
like
it
is
supposed
to
be
a
discussion
if
people
also
want
to
join
the
call
and
and
talk
verbally
I,
more
than
encourage
folks
to
do
that,
but
only
if
you
want.
D
D
So
the
next
question
is
one
that
got
asked
over
on
GitHub
by
David,
Eck,
David,
Eck,
David
I
believe
it's
about
the
commercial
support
training
training.
So
it's
issue
998
on
GitHub
and
he's
basically
asking
if
there
is
a
way
for
the
commercial
support
page.
Currently,
you
know
only
listing
Consulting
companies
available
for
professional
supports
to
be
updated
with
other
entries,
I
believe.
D
F
So
the
question
is
to
add
new
providers
or.
D
F
Make
a
pull
request
to
to
get
your
company
or
or
yourself
added.
A
I
think
the
question
also
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
was
about
the
fact
that
currently,
these
are
mostly
listing
Consulting
companies
providing
support,
and
this
one
was
about
like
whether
a
company
is
providing
training
rather
than
support,
could
be
added
to
that
page,
which
personally
I
mean
I
I.
Don't
think
that
would
be
any
issue
with
that
yeah,
as
Elko
said
just
open
a
poor
request
and,
broadly
broadly
speaking,
I
mean
the
the
main
goal
of
that
board.
A
C
And
in
general,
though,
the
having
that
commercial
support
page
part
of
the
point
there
is
to
say
that
you
know
there
is,
there
are
people
who
can
help.
There
are
compute
people
who
can
support
you
in
in
deploying
and
using
Nix,
but
there
are
also
people
out
there
who
can
help
you
learn
Nix
and
so
from
a
growth
perspective.
It's
it's
all
good
to
have
those
training
resources.
D
There
was
also
a
little
bit
of
a
sub
question
in
there
if
it
would
also
be
possible
to
have
books
on
there
so
like
books
talking
about
Nixon,
xos
Etc.
That
would
also
I.
B
Think
it's
a
good
it's
a
good
idea
in
general
and
probably
something
that
we
we
need
to
kind
of
mature
right
as
the
community
grows
and
the
different
things
around
the
community
grow
into
kind
of
like
a
a
community
like
you
know
the
different
supports
and
offerings
across
the
community
by
the
community,
and
then
it
totally
makes
sense
for
like
books
and
guides
and
trainings
and
even
content
right
people
who
are
creating
like
like
just
dreams
of
of
next
related
content.
F
D
Tobias
asked
creation
of
the
board
is
a
great
step
towards
a
more
mature
setup
and
governance
great
job.
My
question
on
the
mid
long
term
of
this
board.
How
will
people
get
on
the
board
and-
and
would
someone
have
to
be
removed
for
that
to
happen.
A
That's
a
that's,
also,
a
great
question,
I
think.
So
that's
something
we've
wanted
to
be
transparent
on
from
the
beginning,
saying!
Well,
this
board
is
mostly
self-nominated
well,
this
is
not
a
good
long-term
situation
and
we
want
to
find
another
way
and
we're
also
doing
fire
fighting.
So
like
it's
hard
to
to
balance
this,
and
to
be
frank,
we
haven't
really
worked
on
that
so
far.
Maybe
we
should
because
that's
an
important
topic.
A
You
know
in
a
further
comment:
I
think
Tobias
mentions
the
Haskell
Foundation,
which
did
the
same
thing
and
then
jumped
into
setting
up
some
some
rules
for
how
to
how
the
yeah,
exactly
for
how
to
select
about
I,
think
that's
something
we're
going
to
have
to
tackle
in
the
coming
month,
where
we
also
definitely
open
to
suggestions
on
that,
because
it's
a
it's
a
very
tricky
subject
and
there's
lots
of
ways
to
do
that,
most
of
which
can
be
considered
bad
in
many
ways
and
there's
a
lot
of
trade-offs
to
do.
D
D
I'm,
seeing
if
so
again
you
can
ask
questions
on
each
and
every
single
platform,
YouTube
Twitter
LinkedIn
and
the
owncast
instance.
I
do
not
hesitate
to
do
so
because
currently
I
don't
see
any
more
questions
unless
I
am
missing.
Some.
D
So
once
again,
if
you
have
any
questions,
do
not
be,
then
we
do
not
bite.
At
least
I,
don't
believe
we
do.
B
Okay,
okay,
see
you
in
a
bit
thanks,
you'll!
Let
us
know
if
there's
questions
so
a
few
things
I
think
one
I'm
I'm.
Certainly
everyone
saw
like
the
trademark
updates.
B
I'm
waiting
for
a
response
from
the
team
there
just
to
to
like
since
we're
good
on
the
the
pricing
and
the
proposal,
then
the
next
steps
should
be
getting
an
agreement
out
reviewing
their
agreement
and
then
and
then
just
signing
off
on
that
again,
just
to
recap
process
for
take
between
three
to
six
months,
depending
on
the
jurisdiction,
I
think
in
parallel
we
should
start
drafting
the
pretty
much
the
trademark
policy
that
can
be
made
public
to
the
community
early
on
and
maybe
as
a
good
first
step
is
just
listing
out.
B
B
A
I
could
take
that
over
I've
started
already
looking
a
bit
at
the
the
existing
policies.
C
I
wonder
if
we've
put
the
necessary
agreements
in
place
with
the
original
artist,
it
was
initially
just
sort
of
sent
to
us
and
then
casually
licensed
as
or
offered
as
ccby
4.0,
and
we
might
want
to
reach
back
to
him
and
set
up
something
proper.
There.
A
B
Cool
all
right,
that's
on
trademark,
on
season
of
docs
I,
don't
have
again
I.
Don't
have
any
updates
on
that
I'm
kind
of
just
seeing
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
board
to
support
that.
E
So
so
just
quickly
there,
like
I
I,
did
apply
as
to
Google
summer
of
code
many
years
ago
and
we
were
kind
of
denied.
So
you
know,
Google
runs
Google
yeah,
two
programs,
one
is
for
documentation,
one
is
for
coding,
so
I
think
it
would
really
great.
E
If
we
can,
you
know,
apply
there
and
and
next
year
and
and
see
if
we
can
get
in
both
of
the
programs
actually
because,
like
we
always
had
people
who
were
like
students
and
wanted
to
contribute
to
links-
and
you
know
there
was
actually
effort-
the
summer
of
Nyx
was
kind
of
a
spin
up
from
from
that,
but
yeah
it
would
be
great
to
to
get
us
into
those
programs.
Next
year,
I.
B
Think
we
have,
we
have
quite
a
few
googlers
I
I
pinned
a
few
of
them.
So,
let's
see
if
if
a
few
of
the
googlers
can
also
help
out,
like
Fareed,
helped
out
a
ton
with
the
Nix
Con
on
the
Google
side,.
E
E
While
I'm
talking
we're
we're
also
working
on
the
sponsoring
of
events,
I
think
we
forgot
to
mention
that
and
I
think
it's
it's
more
or
less
ready.
There's
just
you
know
small
bits
to
to
clarify
I,
think
yeah,
I
think
it's!
E
It's
really
cool
that
the
foundation
will
be
able
to
support
all
kinds
of
events
from
e-depth
to
Sprints.
It's
always
been
I
think
really
really
cool
that
you
know
the
foundation
can
expand
the
scope
of
the
budget
to
support
like
people
meeting
and
talking
about
things.
E
So
if,
if
you
go
to
the
Nexus
homepage
repository
there's
like
a
pull
request
right,
so
it
would
be
great
to
to
see
people
who
are
interested
in
that.
You
know
to
comment
on
it
and
to
to
bring
up
questions.
If
something
is
unclear,
or
you
know,
if
they
would
write
to
organize
a
Meetup
of
part
of
the
20th
anniversary,
you
know
what
kind
of
things
they
would
need
and
so
on
yeah.
So
this
is
something
also
that
we're
looking
feedback
on
and
trying
to
to
support
the
community,
and
this
happen.
A
Just
so
you
know
there
are
some
comments
on
YouTube
in
particular,
Martin
is
saying
that
they
have
some
experience,
running
gsock
and
could
we'd
be
happy
to
help.
B
A
Yeah
I,
agree
and
I
mean
so
so
far.
We're
talking
about
season
of
talks
anyway,
which
is
yeah
I.
Think
the
summer
of
God
is
yet
yet
another
thing
that
we
haven't
tackled
yet.
C
A
E
Yeah
yeah
I
still
agree
like
the,
and
also
it's
not
guaranteed
that
the
organization
will
get
accepted
into
Google's.
A
lot
of
organizations
started
making
their
own
stuff
when
they're
not
accepted
so
I.
Think
it's
good
to
to
keep.
You
know
our
own
thing
going
regardless
of
the.
If
we're
a
part
of
Google.
D
D
B
I
think
that's
a
great
question
and
I
think
that's
a
good
question
for
the
entire
room
as
well.
So
short,
medium
long
and
intention.
General
intention
is
that
you
know
we're
here
to
be
like
the
board's
role,
regardless
of
who's
in
this
room
is
to
be
kind
of
like
the
stewards
of
the
family
of
the
community
right
support
it,
where
it
needs
to
be
supported,
jump
in
when
we
need
to
jump
in,
but
also
handle
pretty
much
all
of
the
administrative
things
that
are
related
to
just
having
a
strong
Baseline
right.
B
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
these
like
admin
related
tasks,
and
someone
has
to
do
it
and,
in
general,
the
kind
of
help
you
know,
help
provide
information
or
how
to
provide
the
data
so
that
the
community
can
kind
of
use
that
data
to
actionize
and
do
the
things
they
want
right
because
the
community
like
we
all
firmly
believe
that
the
community
needs
to
stay
a
collaborative
Green
Field
of
innovation,
where
anyone
can
come
in
and
do
amazing
work
and
there's
a
lot
of
like
oiling
the
cogs
to
make
that
Green
Field
just
be
there.
B
One
of
the
other
things
that
we
talked
about
in
the
long
term
is
also
when
we
did
kind
of
a
retrospect
to
the
past,
where,
where
were
there
pain
points
that
a
foundation
could
solve
for
the
community
is
also
something
in
terms
of
like
the
escalation
path
right.
So
if
something
within
the
community
gets
blocked
or
or
implodes,
the
community,
of
course,
is
empowered
to
go
solve
it.
B
But
if
the
community
is
not
able
to
or
doesn't
have
time
to,
or
someone
went
on
vacation
for
a
few
months
like
the
community
can
know
that
they
always
have
this
group
of
people
in
the
foundation
that
are
there
committed
to
right,
you
can
escalate
it
to
us
and
I
can't
promise
that
we'll
solve
it
perfectly,
but
we'll
be
there
to
try
and
help
out
and
jump
in
and
do
whatever
we
can
to
unblock
and
and
and
solve
that
short
medium
long
right,
so
I
think
on
the
short
term,
setting
I
think
one
of
our
goals
was
just
setting
all
these
baselines.
B
Up
for
Success,
like
you
can
see,
trademark,
is
coming
up
as
as
a
primary
thing,
and
also
like
empowering
teams
and
seeing
how
we
can
figure
out
helping
out
there.
I
will
say
a
lot
of
the
things
we're
doing
we're
kind
of
doing
for
the
first
time
right,
so
we
are
exploring
them.
We
are
testing
them
out.
We
are
trying
to
see
what
is
more
impactful.
What
is
more
meaningful,
what
works
more,
what
works
less
and
that's?
Why
we're
also
very
kind
of
pushy
on
like
give
us?
B
The
feedback
and
another
example
of
something
that
we're
trying
to
do
short
term
is
just
like
you
know,
spreading
Nick's
knowledge
right.
B
So
all
of
these,
like
state
of
open
all
of
these
conventions
that
have
given
us
table
kind
of
where
we
were
able
to
get
that
problem
most
likely
because
of
the
fact
that
we
came
as
the
foundation
seeing
if
they
have
some
way
to
collaborate
with
us
at
the
foundational
level,
but
I'm
gonna
stop
talking
I
have
like
half
an
hour
more
thoughts
on
this
and
I
see
tear
fun
smiling.
So
maybe
he
wants
to
continue.
A
D
A
End
of
the
question,
which
at
least
appears
to
me
in
the
comment
field
in
the
comment
stream
there's.
Oh.
A
A
One
is
that
we
originally
set
out
to
set
a
broad
high
level
roadmap
for
the
project-
oh
not
set
it,
but
let's
override
the
design
of
that
which
we've
started
but
never
really
finished,
and
the
the
other
other
aspect
is
also
that
one
of
the
main
points
of
that
board
is
to
empower
the
community
and
not
do
things
ourselves
and
I
mean,
ideally
as
a
board
member
I
like
to
just
sit
on
my
couch
and
see
that
the
community
is
running
well,
which
means
that
the
in
an
igl
world.
A
This
is
not
something
that
the
board
would
do.
There
would
be
either
a
core
team
or
individual
teams
which
would
set
this
technical
goals,
and
the
board
should
not
bother
too
much
about
about
the
technical
side,
just
to
make
sure
that,
like
there's,
no
the
responsibilities
are
clear:
cut
the
board
handles
the
organizational
side
of
the
community.
Other
people
handle
the
technical
side.
A
A
D
F
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
plans
for
that
and
right
now
we
don't
have
the
infrastructure
or
the
mechanisms
index
to
support
key
rotation.
D
Okay,
then,
over
to
the
next
one,
another
question
from
I
believe
on
cast:
yes,
so
are
there
new
efforts
on
moving
next
CI
on
PRS
away
from
GitHub
actions
and
into
Hydra
or
Hercules
CI,
Hercules
yeah,
sorry
I
think
we
can
afford
building
an
extra
package
on
our
cash
or
hydra.nexas.org
instead
of
just
relying
on
slow
and
imperative
actions.
I
think
we
already
have
Hydra
job
sets
for
mix.
So
why
do
we
still
use
kit
of
actions.
A
So
I
guess
that's
a
question
for
either
me
or
Elko,
because
that's
more
a
question
for
the
next
maintenance
team,
I
I've
actually
been
working
on
the
CI
in
the
past.
There's
two
answers
to
that:
one!
Is
that
we're
already
using
hydraulot
phonics?
It's
just
not
the
first
CI
that
runs
for
everything,
amongst
other
things,
for
security
reasons,
because
we
can't
have
Hydra
and
stressed
interested
card
while
GitHub
action
is
designed
for
that,
and
then
we
would
like
to
expand
on
that
use
high
drop
way
more
than
what
we're
doing
I
guess.
A
The
main
reason
that
this
is
not
the
case
is
that
currently
we
and
the
infra
team
are
lacking
the
Manpower
to
set
that
in
place
and
Hercules
is
also
something
that
we
are
looking
at,
but
yeah
same
thing,
mostly
lack
of
Manpower
so
far
to
implement
that
all
of
these
are
definitely
alternative
that
we're
trying
to
look
into.
D
B
So
then,
this
also
ties
back
to
tufan's
response
right
to
the
previous
question.
I
think
this
question
has
two
parts,
but
in
terms
of
the
RFC
process,
there's
no
formal
tie
between
the
board
and
the
RFC
part
I.
Don't
think
we
don't
think
there
should
be
right.
The
communication
making
be
making
these
decisions
we're
here
if
things
get
escalated
and
if
we
can
help
out
right
but
I
guess
we
can
also
respond
on
the
flakes
topic
again
as
well.
E
A
And
as
far
as
the
Nix
maintenance
team
is
concerned,
this
is
also
something
that
we've
working
on,
that
we're
walking
on
I
mean
that's,
not
a
decision
that
the
next
team
has
to
do
like
that
RFC
material,
but
on
the
next
team
side
we're
trying
to
make
everything
ready
so
that
eventually
stabilizing
Flex,
which
just
just
be
flipping
some
Flags
somewhere
in
the
next
cut
base
which
to
be
Frank,
has
still
like.
A
There's
still
some
work
to
be
done
to
make
it
that
it's
really
smooth
and
out
enough
to
be
stable
because
it's
widely
used.
But
people
are
using
it
with
little
hacks
here
and
there
to
walk
around
the
infinite
and
finished
Parts,
which
probably
we
want
to.
We
want
to
reduce
a
bit
the
needs
for
these
hikes
before
it
being
stable,
but
it's
a
I
think
all
the
all
the
part.
The
concerned
parties
with
the
next
team
or
the
RFC.
A
The
shepherd
team
around
that
area
stabilizing
Flags
flakes
sorry
are
working
on
that
to
make
this
as
fast
as
it
as
it
can
be.
But
there's
definitely
no
promise
on
the
timeline.
E
And
as
Tom
mentions
in
our
chat,
I
don't
know:
oh
that's,
private
jet,
there's
a
Shepherd
team
meeting
today
for
the
rfc136,
so
that
should
probably
build
some
good
results
before.
A
B
D
E
D
Expand
on
it,
so
many
dot
dot
from
documentation,
better
error
or
output
of
compiling
to
intellisense
Etc.
Oh.
B
Sorry
kicking
off
100,
yes,
I
think.
Right
again,
this
is
kind
of
Community
Driven
work
that
is
happening,
there's
no
like
explicit
prioritization
of
like
what
should
happen
first
because
it
like
kind
of
like
from
the
community
side
I
knew
that
the
documentation
team
is,
is
now
meeting
up
to
kind
of
restructure
and,
and
you
know,
build
up
a
new
team.
B
So
if
anyone
is
interested
in
documentation
highly
encouraged
again
to
get
in
touch
with
with
the
folks
there,
it
is
a
critical
effort
for
the
community
and
I
think
he
also
asked
about
error
messaging
I,
think
that
came
in
as
one
of
the
top
pain
points
or
or
feedback
areas
about
Nix
and
the
2022
survey
that
we
did
by
I
will
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
numbers
and
I
will
definitely
be
exaggerating,
but
I
think
quite
a
good
100
plus
users.
B
Out
of
you
know,
the
thousand
plus
that
respondent
and
I
do
know
that
there's
efforts
in
that
space,
I
just
I'll,
let
you
know
other
folks
kind
of
speak
to
them.
E
Yeah
I've
been
running
the
kind
of
like
the
the
funding
to
improve
error
messages,
and
then
Burdette
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
that.
Besides
everyone
else
in
the
community,
which
has
been
great
and
and
I,
think,
I
think
we
managed
to
finally
get
on
our
messages
to
I'll,
put
the
stack
trays
and
a
lot
of
the
low
hanging
fruits
that
are
really
important
to
get
done.
E
I.
Think
for
me
personally.
It
would
be
really
great
if
people
started
using
the
debugger
more
and
kind
of
report
how
to
debugger
works
for
them,
because
that's
kind
of
like
you
know
where
Dynamic
language
becomes
useful
to
debug
useful,
to
understand
the
state
of
what's
going
on,
but
in
general
the
the
question
back
would
be
like
you
know.
What,
where,
where
does
community
want,
the
the
the
messages
to
be
improved
and
I?
E
Think
that's
where
that
that
feedback
loop
is
where
I
think
we
still
need
to
do
work
a
lot
of
languages
out
there.
They
have
like
an
error
messages
catalog,
and
this
is
something
that
I
think
would
be
good
to
start
and
and
so
on.
So
there's
you
know:
to
put
it
shortly,
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
there.
So
I
hope
that
we
can.
We
can
go
and
get
her
to
feed
that
I've.
A
E
So
the
the
funding,
the
funding
that
we
did
was
like
mostly
around
creating
the
debugger,
which
obviously
doesn't
work
it
as
well.
But
if
you
press
minus
minus
deblogger
to
next,
but
a
few
commands
I,
don't
know
which
ones
from
top
of
my
head,
you
will
get
dropped
into
a
debugger,
Rebel
kind
of
session,
where
you'll
be
able
to
inspect
the
state
of
of
links
where
there
actually
happens.
So
you
know,
if
you
get
like
an
error,
you
know,
cannot
concatenate
set
and
a
string.
E
You
will
get
into
debugger
and
you
can
expect
inspect
what
you
know.
The
two
variables
were
and
so
on.
So
this
is
where
I
think
we
just
need
more
feedback
and
to
obviously
to
Market
it's
better.
B
D
B
Yeah
I
think
Nick
asked
something
right,
addictive
sorry,
I
think
addicted,
asked
where,
where
can
board
work
and
stuff
like
that
be
tracked
or
I.
D
Bet
that
one
will
come
in
a
minute.
There
was
one
before
that,
if
that's
okay
yeah,
so
this
one
got
a
little
bit
messed
up
in
formatting,
but
it's
whatever
so
ninja
asked.
Despite
some
recent
progress,
the
best
Factor
on
the
next
project
is
still
fairly
low.
Provided
enough
budget
hiring
the
main
next
contributors
through
the
Foundation
could
potentially
limit
conflict
of
interest.
Do
you
think
such
a
thing
could
land
in
the
foundation
scope
at
some
point.
B
B
I
feel
like
hiring
core
contributors
kind
of
changes,
the
landscape
of
an
open
source
Community
very
much
I
can't
understand
the
benefits
of
it,
but
I
also
think
that
you
know
like
who
do
you
hire
and
kind
of
like
do
you
is
that?
Does
that
mean
that
the
foundation
like
formally
gives
them
power,
which
I
don't
think
the
foundation
should
be
doing
or
can
do
like
I?
B
Don't
think
we
should
be
have
that
ability
so
I
think
it's
an
interesting
topic
but
like
when
I
feel
like
whenever
we
involve
like
community
and
paying
people
in
the
community
to
do
community
work
it's
very
different
than
then.
Let's
say
you
know,
there's
a
few
companies
here
that
have
that
employ
people
to
work
on
Nicks,
but
yeah
I'm,
open,
I'm
interested
in
thoughts
in
that.
A
Yeah,
to
be
to
be
frank,
that's
I,
I
think
that's
something
that
people
have
remotely
on
the
back
of
their
mind,
but
we've
never
talked
about
that.
Well,
first,
because
we
have
we
had
other
things
on
the
agenda
and
also
because,
at
least
for
now
the
foundation
budget
is
definitely
not
at
a
point
where
we
can
hire
even
one
next
contributor,
full-time.
A
Which,
which
means
that
I
I
mean
I,
guess
like
asking
that
question
I
mean
it's
interesting
to
ask
that
question.
You
know
like
for
like
what
it
would
mean
for
the
community,
as
Ron
mentioned
in
terms
of
practical
outcome.
Yeah,
there's
no
real
need
to
ask
ourselves
that
question
yet
because
we
couldn't
perform
that
right.
B
And
I'll
play
both
sides
of
it,
because
I
think
this
is
actually
a
really
good
discussion
to
have
and
I'm
really
happy
to
follow
up
on
this
question
like
on
one
side,
I
do
agree
right
paying
someone
for
full
time.
Just
hammering
out.
Nick's
awesomeness
obviously
has
a
lot
of
benefits,
but
then
that
becomes
does
that
you
know
and
I'm
removing
my
board
hat
for
a
second.
B
Does
that
give
the
board
like
power
to
decide
what
that
person
works
on
right,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
who's
signing
off
on
on
that
person's
like
livelihood
and
paycheck
it
becomes.
You
know
the
foundation,
so
anyways
I
think
I.
Think
it's
an
interesting
dilemma
and
kind
of
if
we
can
consider
doing
that,
like
of
course
budget
is
like.
Is
this
an
issue
and
I'll
make
the
budget
open?
So
everyone
can
see
that
but
right?
How
would
that?
How
can
we
structure
it
in
a
way
if
we
are
ever
considering
it?
B
So
it
has.
You
know
it
only
is
for
the
benefit
of
the
community
and
doesn't
introduce
any
potential
conflicts.
E
I
I
think
also
an
interesting
question
would
be
maybe
you
know
to
flip.
The
coin
is
like:
why
aren't
you
contributing
to
Links?
You
know
how
do
we,
what
are
the
blockers
for
people
to
contribute
to
Links?
Because
you
know
in
X
packages
we
have,
you
know
thousands
of
poor
investors
and
so
on
and
a
huge
Community
behind
it.
So
I
think
I
think
the
board
effort
should
be.
E
You
know
the
next
team
kind
of
happened,
I,
don't
know
a
few
months
ago,
half
a
year
ago,
and
probably
not
many
people
don't
even
know
it
exists.
So
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
we
should
be
talking
about
and
try
to
understand.
What's
blocking
people-
and
you
know
bring
this
to
the
board-
bring
this
to
the
next
next
team
and
let's
discuss
them.
B
B
D
Okay,
thank
you
another
one
from
the
oncase
instance.
I,
don't
even
know
how
to
pronounce
that
so
I'm
not
going
to
try
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
on
the
screen,
I.
B
Now
now
I
know
why
no
one
responds
to
teofan
and
I
anymore,
so
so
we've
been
actually
posed
so
yeah.
There's
the
there's
the
GitHub
issue
tracker.
B
B
I
think
tier
fun
and
I
have
been
poorly
posting
notes
whenever
we're
able
to
over
the
weekends
from
the
board
meeting,
so
you
can
kind
of
track
right.
Whatever
you've
been
talking
about,
what
are
our
top
of
Minds
and
I?
Think
there
is
actually
a
a
tag
for
it
in
the
discourse
right,
I
think
it's
like.
B
And
excuse
any
like
typos
or
stuff
like
that.
It's
probably
you
know
us
late
at
night,
just
like
copying
over
and
trying
to
ship
that
out,
but
do
let
us
know
if
there
and
of
course,
we've
set
up
these
quarterly
things,
but
do
let
us
know
if
there's
other
ways
we
can
make
it
more
transparent
or
more
clear.
What
I
started
doing
also
is
like
a
a
monthly
recap
and
I'll
try
to
post
that
as
well.
B
E
Yeah
I
think
the
best
the
best
part
of
what
Ron
said
is
like
you
know
what?
What
kind
of
format
will
the
community
like
to
see
if
you
know
from
us,
because
I
think
probably
going
through
all
those
meeting
notices
can
be
quite
a
quite
a
lot
of
work.
So
it's
good
to
understand.
You
know
what
kind
of
appear
in
reality
level
we
should
kind
of
output.
You
know
what
what
is
the
roadmap?
What
are
we
working
on
and
you
know
when
are
things
finish?
D
Okay,
thank
you.
There
was
another
question,
but
I
see
that
it
already
got
answered
in
the
chat
itself
and
then
the
next
one
is
from
another
username,
that's
I'm,
afraid
asdfghyter,
that's
how
I'm
going
to
pronounce
it
from
around.
Is
there
any
plans
towards
using
an
automatic
documentation
generation
tool
that
can
generate
reference
documentation
from
the
comments
and
next
code.
B
I
mean
let's
test
it
out.
If
it
makes
sense,
then
cool
I
think
that
like
like,
if
we
can
do
a
fast
experimentation
and
it
can
do
automatic
like
and
it
can
actually
be
meaningful
and
not
create
just
more
docs
that
that
Garner
confusion,
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
if
other
folks
have
thoughts
on
that,
but
yeah.
F
E
E
It's
it's
a
very
technical
thing,
but
if
I
yeah,
you
know
if,
if
we
do
allow
yourself
to
test
that,
then
as
as
there's
different
tools
for
that
I
I
personally,
like
Google
google.dev,
which
kind
of
documents
a
lot
of
the
next
next
packages,
Library
functions
and
you
can
search
through
that
and
all
of
that
and
it
uses
its
own
parser.
You
know,
anyway,
long
technical
discussion
that
we
can
go
in
that
we.
B
It's
good.
Actually,
we
have.
We
have
good
questions.
I
think
that
you
know
last
time
we
did
this.
We
we
kind
of
talked
in
between
ourselves
for
45
minutes,
which
is
always
good
and
I
really
appreciate
like
it
seems
like
more
people
came
this
town
around
and
I
hope
more
people
will
come
next
time
around.
A
Yeah
something
I
I,
take
out
of
a
number
of
the
questions
here
is
that
a
lot
of
the
questions
are
like
targeting
at
some
very
specific
technical
points
which
yeah
as
Doman
said
like
these
are
not
something
that
the
foundation
should
have
to
answer
and
in
a
lot
of
cases
there
are
actually
established
teams
who
are
trying
to
take
ownership
of
these
things
being
the
next
bit.
A
The
next
cut
base
Nick's
packages
with
the
next
packages
architecture
team,
the
website
which
is
owned
by
the
marketing
team
or
the
infra
team
somewhere
in
the
middle,
but
I
think
that's
race
is
well
one
first
thing,
which
is
that
probably
we
should
give
these
teams
more
visibility
and
because
I
guess
that
if
your
people
are
asking
questions
here,
it's
because
these
teams
are
not
visible
enough
and
well.
Actually,
that
was
that
was
most
of
it.
B
I
I
strongly
agree
with
that.
If
we,
if
we
have
other
like
ways
and
again,
this
is
why
it's
so
Community
Centric,
if
folks
have
like,
are
ideating
ways
that
we
can
test
out
right
doing
things
like
that:
better
surfacing
Community
teams
in
the
more
systematic
way
so
that
as
NYX
Grows
Right,
they
don't
just
come
into
and
and
have
to
find
stuff
on
their
own,
but
like
they
can
quickly
find
the
more
you
know
the
things
that
we
want
them
to
be
able
to
land
in
I
think
that
would
be.
That
would
be
amazing.
B
Cool
so
I
think
we
have
five
minutes
I'm.
If
there's
no
other
questions
I'm
more
than
happy
to
give
five
minutes
back
to
folks,
I
will
say:
Just
One,
Last
Call
out
on
the
on
the
next
20th,
like
Meetup
March
of
the
Knicks
from
March
I,
think
there's
more
than
20
locations
across
the
globe
that
people
have
been
talking
about,
setting
up
meetups
go
there.
B
It's
on
the
discourse
I'll
make
sure
we
also
posted
on
as
a
reply
to
all
the
various
channels
that
folks
have
been
hanging
around
and
asking
questions
in
like
let's,
let's
do
a
lot
of
Nicks
this
month.
B
Someone
also
asked
like
the
role
of
the
board,
and
things
like
that.
So
another
thing
that
we
did
as
a
board
right
was
establish
also
like
Partnerships,
with
with
folks
like
GitHub,
in
order
to
help
right
get
more
eyeballs
in
on
things
that
are
happening
in
Knicks
like
Nick's
Meetup.
So
we
can
teach
more
people
and
and
meet
new
people.
B
So
if
you
have
other
ideas
of
how
we
can
make
March
very
Nic
Centric,
let
us
know
or
just
do
it
other
than
that-
that's
all
for
mine,
I,
don't
know!
If
folks
have
anything
else.
E
B
Yeah
we're
organizing
one
in
the
Bay
Area,
so
Bay,
Area,
California
folks.
If
there's
anyone
here,
let
us
know,
there's
there's
the
scale,
that's
happening
in
Pasadena
and
South
California.
So
that's
like
another
next
Meetup,
because
we
actually
have
a
next
booth.
There
I
know
that
twig
is
running
an
awesome
event
already
in
Paris.
There's
folks
checking
you
know,
starting
to
organizing
something
and
I
think
Germany
so
like
do
it
I
mean
all
you
need.
B
Yes,
someone
poking
fun
at
everyone.
That's
not
sitting
on
a
beach
cool
awesome
again,
everyone
that
joined
and
everyone
that
asked
questions
and
everyone.
That's
watching
this
later
super
appreciate
it
again
feedback
feedback
feedback.
If
there's
a
way
for
us
to
do
this
better
next
time,
do
this
more?
Do
this
less
whatever
it
is,
let
us
know
and
and
we'd
love
to
hear
it,
but
you
know
for
now
for
folks
that
it's
morning
have
a
good
rest
of
the
day.
Folks
kind
of
ending
the
day
good
evening
and
thank
you.
D
If
I
may
hijack
it
and
promote
the
marketing
team,
that
would
be
great
so
for
those
people
that
cannot
make
any
next
meetups
that's
fine.
We
will
also
be
trying
to
host
more
of
these
live
streams.
Talking
to
the
different
mix
teams.
More
of
these
discussions,
more
questions
just
have
a
good
time
talk
with
each
other
and
figure
things
out
together.
D
We
will
be
doing
this,
or
at
least
try
to
do
this
every
single
week
throughout
March.
So
this
marks
the
first
one.
The
next
one
will
probably
on
Wednesday
Wednesday
weather
next
week,
hopefully,
but
apart
from
that,
yeah
I
do
wish
you
all
a
nice
day
or
a
nice
evening
or
a
nice
morning
or
whatever
and
yeah
I
hope.
You
guys
hope
to
see
you
guys
soon
again
have
a.