Node.js Mentorship, 18 Oct 2019

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https://github.com/nodejs/bootstrap/issues/114

A

Okay, we like em to be so hello. Everyone welcome to Nadia's mentorship meeting before we start I have an announcement to make that might lack affect the program, but not really so.

A

Last week, I've submitted a pull request to move myself to like leave the kumkum, the community community committee for note just basically because I don't have enough time to keep contributing I.

A

Will continue like contributing to the mentorship program?

A

This is the first like the reason why I joined the kumkum in the first place to be able to do this, but yeah going forward. We have discussed what we what we need to do since I'm leaving and we might need like a process to escalate stuff where, if we need any extra privileges or access, we need someone from the kumkum to be able to be this person to help us out.

A

So I've opened the pull request in the comm and we're yet to find like to figure out who's gonna, be that person, but it seems that we can just like open issues on the comm command have like folks from the kumkum, helps out yeah. So I. Don't think that should affect us much but yeah. It's something I thought you should know.

B

That's it but I understand, but yes, you're gonna, be the the initiative mentorship champion right, there's just not any day comedians right, yeah.

A

So for the compound, like you have to reply on emails and like stay, active and I haven't been active for a while and I attend the meetings like once a month or so so, hopefully like living. The calm calm will enable me to give more time for the mentorship program.

A

That's right, like I, have three hours every two weeks or four hours to be able to give to just a magician program. Oh Houston, it I.

B

Agree: I, don't figure than I have any impact on this. It's we're still part of the mentorship yeah, so you just need to create an issue, so we can, as someone who's applied, should be the mentorship program. Con cultural reports that SAPI date correct.

A

Yes, oh and in the pull request, I already asked for that, and yesterday was meeting and I did like raise this issue and we did discuss it and I also had a meeting with Tunney BnB to to see how we can go from there. So basically, a person needs to be a member in the comm come to be able to act as that person.

A

So the main issue in the kumkum and I guess across snowed in general is that time is like the most scarce resource, so hopefully like someone will be able to have enough time to help us out in that, although it doesn't mean like constant knowledge of what's happening, but they need to be able to provide updates to the kumkum.

A

So at the moment, like people who provide this, this, like updates, are me sometimes, and sometimes it's Tracy, Lee and or anyone from the foundation that is joining the comm committing, and that sounds like joint our meetings and they know the status of the mentorship team, like the sets of the program in general, yeah I.

C

A

So I have to double check, so in the past you could not champion any any initiative without being a member in the calm calm, but this is not the case anymore. This is why I was able to leave the calm, calm and stay like in the mentorship initiative.

A

C

Because I'm kind of here on behalf of the foundation I, don't know how that.

C

Something I'm I'm more than happy to do that.

B

If I already been doing this from I believe there's best eight or seven meetings that I was participating, so you believe Eva is very welcome.

B

A

So I'll leave a comment and in the pool requests for like changing my status and the calm, calm. So I'll say if, like I say, if I can fill in this spot to provide updates or if we need anything yeah and we can go from there. I think someone from the kumkum needs to give an OK about this, but definitely I would love to have you act as that person, because you engage with the program.

A

So we have many items actually to discuss, but I would love to have this meeting just to discuss the agenda item that we had last week, which is like bringing more people to the mentorship team. So Sal, though you are not and last meeting so just like to bring context for you and for anyone watching so basically we're trying to.

A

Basically we're trying to like identify our needs like we're, with more people to help us out and the mentorship team.

A

This way we can like fill in the voids and for the next cohort and the next cohort sound what we're doing we can have like more effective use of our time and also like move faster in the program itself.

A

So we had four main needs that we want to identify it basically we'd love to have someone to respond on issues and like the slack Channel and just liked all outside of the program, people that are trying to engage with the program or ask questions or understand like what's the status, and all of that so I believe you've been doing this mostly so. Look yes,.

B

And I was gonna say to be happy, happy happy to continuously start reporting. Everyone, that's not doesn't know how the how the current status of the mentorship and providing for it information so I. It's not a problem at all in the big lights should do. That is possible.

A

Yeah I think you know the right person like you we can have would if you think that's something we can do. Maybe now maybe you're fine I, don't know.

A

Well, let's discuss it's after I finish like the needs that we have. The second need. We have is someone to talk with the mentors and mentees, so we can have this as one person or two or two people, and basically we need someone to just make sure that the mentors and mentees are doing okay in the program. They need to reflect any feedback or any concerns. We need them to have like this listen gear, to be able to escalate the issues or help with a round itself, and the third need we have is.

A

So, by weekly checking on mentees to make sure everything is okay inside the program, so I believe yeah. So this can be like one one person and we can like divide it into like two separate to suppress things in the future. If we find like, we don't have enough, like the person doing, this doesn't have enough time to follow up on both mentees and mentors inside the program.

A

And, finally, we need some people and they would like raised an issue that this seems vague and does we need someone to help in their own preparations and helping with a meeting in kickoff meetings and the matching process.

A

Which we might need to like make clearer, or we just need someone to be indirect code process and have like more people responsible for the matching process. Last time we all contributed to the matching process. So if we just find another person that can help us also on that I think we don't need that get a new person just for that, we can have them like contribute to the process and to the mentorship team in general, but they can help with that, like a plus one or oh yeah,.

B

A

These are our four needs, I think before we discuss like anything further like inviting mentor to the to like door meetings or discussing when we're gonna start with the next cohort I believe, like it's best to address this issue and find more people.

A

This way, we can like have a clearer idea of the time estimates and our capacity in general. So what do you think.

D

B

Will be awesome.

A

So maybe we can have a quick vote if so, I think Solow you've been like replying on the mentorship issues and also like the mentorship channel and.

A

If you're also like taking meeting notes.

A

Yeah, this is my only concern. Is that you're already taking meeting notes and helping out and other stuff.

B

So, from my point of view, I believe they are mouths. They are both relatively important because, if I meet you, how can I say, address the community and be aware of everything that's going on and cetera. It helps. It helps me to understand and write the notes on the subjects that we are dealing and creating the issue agenda and whatever you need, so you can provide the information for the community.

B

They are both related, both the tasks. So it's not a firm. It's not a big deal. Yeah, okay,.

A

A

What do you think didn't Aging.

D

I think he's a good yeah.

E

A

Good thanks: okay, awesome.

A

Yeah I I agree.

A

Yeah, my only concern is like recruiting internally and we don't have enough people. So it's like.

A

Yeah we're just like giving extra sponsibility Sado.

A

Thank you so much yeah.

A

Yeah I think like saw those already doing this in offcially, so we can have this like on you. So yeah sounds good, so I think so it was not here, but we agreed to once we finalize this for in this meeting, we agreed to announce it somehow that we need two more people, but I'm, not sure. If opening an issue and tweeting on Twitter is enough, and also I'd like to have like some kind of discussion about what exactly we should say in the tweet or in the issue that we're gonna open.

A

B

Have a concern about the visibility of the program. You know a lot of things that are already public and how can I say well environment on the mini nodes and it's like channels and whatever and people are some some kind of limit is that applied. They are not aware of the current status and have the same same old questions and also I'm concerned about the visibility of the program and how we are provided as information for the general public.

B

If we're, how can we successfully reach out the and providing different information, so that concerning how we can could do that, even if you're gonna ask from our people to enjoying how can we do to these and correctly.I sort of speaking thanks.

A

Yeah, that's a great question, so I think like for the anyone interested in weight.

A

So I think for anyone that is like not fully up-to-date with the program which I believe most people are. They find the toil like they're not going to read the meeting minutes and see like the latest updates on the program. I think we can help like improve that by putting something on the top of the readme file, we're updating the description of the mentorship channel, I'm, not sure if you have any ideas or any age, every David or Eva.

C

I'm sorry say that one more time yeah.

A

I saw you got disconnected so.

A

So sad, oh, like afraid to act as the person responding to the issues outside the program on the mentorship Channel and on the issues and the mentorship repo and replying on asking like any any concern about the program or when it's the correct ones. The next round or this kind of stuff. So solos asking so most of the people live on all the stats with problem. And we are looking for it because posed to like make this more visible like currently we're in the second cohort and.

A

At the moment, we have the general file and the repo, but that's also not visible, to like people who don't know that this file exists. For example, okay,.

C

Well, maybe possible I, don't know we could do some social media and we could get Rachel to do some tweets from foundation. Twitter account. We could get people to talk about it in the different committees that they're in I'm happy to like talk about it in calm, calm, who else.

C

Though, even my general suggestion is just like, let's get some tweets out from node and let's talk about it in calm, calm and then, if all the committee members could do some retweeting of that just to help spread. The word I think that that would be a really good place to get started.

C

Where else would be a good, you guys would know this better than I would probably at this point, where else would be a centralized place to disseminate to get information out about different NetID programs? Is there something else I'm missing.

A

So at the moment we have the mentorship repo.

A

The readme file is huge, so I think it's hard for people to like understand the full picture, because the size of like we have literally everything about the program and this readme file, but I, don't have any better ideas or to put this information.

D

A

D

It be possible for us to get like a page on the node.js website, like node.js comm, slash, mentorship.

C

Can I ask another, probably super obvious to you guys question, but not quite to me we're the purpose of this kind of getting the word out is to get more more people on the committee, because we already we have plenty of people who want to be mentees right.

E

Hold on I think someone correct me: if I'm wrong, we might be talking about different things. I think part of this thread has had is about getting the word out in general, but I want to make sure that maybe I, misunderstood I thought this original. It was about people being a little bit unclear about all the information when they arrived at the repo.

B

I would just say this is our primary concern. I.

C

Used: okay, I'm, sorry I, when I switched from the car to come into the house, I'm that crucial piece of information.

E

Oh good I think I. Think part of the issue is all the things that you are saying: we're very tempting to get into okay,.

C

All right, excellent.

E

Yeah, it's like really important and so I just I I was I. I was finding myself tempted to be like. Yes, let's talk about that, but these.

C

Are all issues too, but.

E

I just wanted to make sure we were that I wasn't leaving the other thing behind. Okay,.

B

E

The the thing that I believe that we're we're trying to figure out right now is- and this is kind of related to what salvo is taking over as what I'm nicknaming the community manager or external community manager or whatever, is that a lot of people come to the mentorship program and they wind.

B

E

The same questions over and over so for me, like you know, this thread is okay. Does anybody have any ideas about that? And so first thing that comes to mind is okay: let's go to the mentorship repo and pretend I know absolutely nothing. What am I gonna start to see so there's the general github stuff at the top, which isn't really doing anyone any favors. If they don't know anything, and so on my laptop, it's probably the very first I mean it's like really at the bottom.

E

That I actually see any information, so anything of interest is, is gonna, be below called no matter what, but at the very bottom I see no js' mentorship. It was the h1 welcome to the no defender ship program, okay status. Second cohort is currently in progress check the mentorship journal for more details. This project is bound by a code of conduct and then everything else is off the screen.

E

So the only things like like, as far as we're concerned, the most important things that that we've told people that we have control over, because all the other real estate is github files and stuff is the name of the thing node mentorship. Okay. Whatever welcome to the node mentorship program, okay, I think that could be improved status and then check the mentorship journal for more details.

E

I, don't I, don't know if the very first thing we send them to is the mentorship journal like if that's useful, then below that now I'm scrolling I see the this hand-drawn mentorship.

E

Mentors guide, mentees lead, connect mentees with people and resources pair programming, technical guidance code review, continue learning sort of this I, don't know how to put it, like the be the intention of the program which is pretty cool, and then we get into the goal.

E

Okay, so then the goal of mentorship program benefits for mentees. So this this is a little bit of like sales background.

E

Mindset and then the mentorship program structure, so that's pretty far down now, mentorship duration will be ten weeks. So what like, are these the questions that people are asking the mentorship direction like? What's the mentorship duration, it's like how far down in this readme is the information that people are asking most like. Do we want to trim this down? Do we want to put the those most important things up top? Is it? Is it really like a simplification and focus that is gonna solve? The issue might have been about.

C

E

Know consciousness, but that's what I, like my thoughts, are thank.

C

You I think that's that's super helpful and what about I don't know? I I tend to go with quick and dirty if possible.

C

What about a simple Q&A at the very beginning, like you know, take all those questions that people get put them in, read me and then answer them and then just label it like frequently asked questions.

D

Yeah I was thinking the same thing like turned the readme into more of a FAQ and then maybe have the first question on the there'd, be something like how does the program work and then link to a separate page that has most of what's currently on the readme I just.

B

Like to say that we always have new comers and there is it's not a problem theory, they are asking question, that's not the point. The point is that we every time we see we are the. What raises the flag is that I believe we are not provided them? How can I say we are not spreading the word correctly I sort of speaking I. Don't know we are reaching the main trees and the people you see. That's I believe that's the primary point: how to do that.

A

E

Getting concrete is there an issue recently where we can just kind of go through that.

B

For example, the we are we are trying to collect feedback from the amenities that are applied but were not selected. I only had one wanna reply on email and the communication I used was this like channel. So from the point I see the I, don't believe people are I stay turn it on the slack channel and following the current updates, so that when I say I don't know if the selection is the best way.

B

We provide the information status about the mentorship program, because I only do and it's hard to collect feedback from the they make these that were not selected, and there are a lot a lot. I was.

C

Gonna say the same thing: I think it's really difficult not to get people to tell you about it if they weren't selected, because everybody's busy and I this is something I. Would that's not an email. I would respond to to be super blunt yeah.

A

So I think everyone like brought really good points. Maybe solo. You can actually just have like a document with all like the common questions that you're getting like.

D

A

My person, like observation, I, see the most common question. Is people asking when is gonna? When is the next cohort gonna start, and this is something we're not adjusting like we're saying we're in the second cohort, but we're not addressing like just something simple like, even if we don't have a time for the next.

A

So like a time estimate for the next cohort I think we should just state that by I think having a list of the most common questions that are being asked on the mentorship channel on maybe Twitter and even sorry even github issues. We can actually like filter those like talk most common questions and have them in the readme file.

A

I, really like the idea of having something on the website just to bring more visibility, and we can also have some of these like questions addressed on them on the know site, but I think it serves more as like: hey, let's, let's bring more attention to the program rather than people who are already like they already know about the program and they have questions I. Think, like updating the readme file and maybe like doing some stuff on the mentorship channel like if we're gonna start, for example, our bi-weekly meeting.

A

We can just post something that hey this we're gonna start the meeting. If you want our TuneIn I, believe age I used to do that, and we used to have a lot more engagement on the YouTube channel. On the comments section, when AJ used to announce that we're gonna start the live stream, I guess we dropped that just because we had so many technical difficulties and putting something on YouTube for a long time.

C

Another question is the psych channel in one of the first documents that were putting out there. Two people know that the Select Channel.

A

That's a good question, so we I guess yeah. We do have it very like the end of the readme file and in the poor when you apply trauma mentee. We also connect you to a slack channel, but that's about it like you need to dig deep to find the non slackers channels, the section stay updated and the readme file, which is almost at the end of the page. Next to the slack channel and no Twitter account, and we say like started reporting to get updates.

C

Okay, alright, so maybe that's something else that we need to think about doing is getting the nude slack channel more prominently out there.

A

Yeah I agree yeah, so just to summarize I guess so since, although you're the communic team Juna, so you can and like feel free to like have other ideas or change stuff, but as somebody for what we discussed just like announcing on the slide, like the slack channel, maybe like we can show you the meeting notes or just before the meeting starts, we can announce that we're gonna we're going live. If you want our children, I don't think is having this list.

A

This, like shared document that you just put like questions that you're getting from these different channels and the last thing, which is something like we need to do continuously I believe, is updating the readme file to become more relevant for people that already know about the program and oh, they just saw the program and they want to like see the stats that they they have some questions so yeah. We can definitely bring note slackers on top of the page and have like almost above the food content, more relevant, like they would say, I think.

D

Sorry, god, no.

C

I thought that sounds really good. Yeah.

D

I think a table of contents would make a big difference at the top.

F

A

C

Documents directed at the mentors too or is it mainly the mentees.

A

Readme file, my intention was this- is for the mentees, not for the Mentors. We have one small section.

A

Basically, like you, learn about the whole program in general, but my wording was more tailored towards mentees, because I wanted to have this program like as friendly as possible to people who want to contribute for the first time, I think as a mentor, you will get less discouraged if you don't find everything that you're looking for just simply because you're already contributing to node in some way or we've already reached out to you in some way and my initial ID, my initial thought was: mentees will have like this barrier to contributor to join the program more than men more than matters, but I do have like benefits for mentors, for example, in the reading file, but other than that it's mainly tailored toward mentees.

A

C

We're reaching out to the mentors more individually, so this is not something that they necessarily need.

A

Yeah for now at least No yeah I'm, not sure if we need like a separate document for mentors and mentees and have the mentees one and the main readme file, which is something like AJ proposed, is to have the main frequently asked questions and the main readme file and just linked to other readme file. Mcduff are evil.

A

C

Sure it would be nice if we had separate files for mentors and mentees, but that may be a wishlist item when we, if and when we have more people to to help yeah.

A

Which brings us to like the main point that I would like to continue discussing this meeting, so we really need like more like people putting ours and the mentorship team, hopefully like after, like resigning from the kong-kong I'll, have more time to contribute to the mentorship and also my time is a little bit for you now in general, but yeah. We definitely need those three or at the moment to or one person which is someone to follow up with the mentees and our mentors.

A

So yeah I was hoping we can get like an action item by the end of this meeting and we have like 18 minutes left just to have a general idea of how we're gonna go about that. So we've identified the need of having like we need a mentor manager, and/or a mentee manager.

A

Why do you think like it's enough reaching for people on Twitter alone and the slack channel? Do we have any requirements like how we're gonna select this? This person.

C

Can I just jump in here sure.

A

A

Giver yeah Eva I cannot hear you I'm, not sure.

A

C

Okay, I was just gonna, say: I. Think that to be blunt at the moment, the selection process is you raise your hand you get picked because we need help and unless there's like a giant red flag of some reason, I don't think there is a selection process.

C

Sorry, but what Eva.

A

Yeah, my my hope at least, is that if we're gonna, announce it like on Twitter or on the slack channel, we're gonna get lots of people raising their hands to contribute to help us out, hopefully, but I, think lots of people, especially because they applied as mentees and they're already like. We were already targeting people who are interested in the program, I think and hope we're gonna get like lots of people who are willing to help out. I.

C

I hope them that I am wrong. I hope, you're right.

C

In a previous life, I've done a lot of work in democratic politics, and a lot of it is also volunteer work, and so generally, in my experience that doesn't that doesn't happens. So I hope that the open-source community is different than politics.

C

A

So I guess we can announce it like yeah.

B

A

We need this and that's a good problem to have. If we like have many people, then we can discuss okay. How can I like.

C

This but yeah I agree. Let's like let's get it on Twitter. um Would you like me to ask Rachel to put it out on the note account.

E

Yes, please yeah.

A

E

I think the only blocker or putting the word out is: do we have like a clear list of what we're looking for, but the role actually entails. Yeah.

D

It should probably be more formalized before.

E

D

It out so that we have somewhere to direct people where they can decide. If that sounds like something for them,.

A

Yeah I, agree and I hope we can like kick off this discussion in these 15 minutes, so we did discuss it briefly in the mentorship private channel. So.

D

Yeah I think those descriptions were pretty good. We just mainly need it in a public place where we can say you know check this out. If any of these sound, like you're, getting touch with us. That kind of thing.

F

E

Know I'm looking at the slack channel I, don't see because we're talking right now about the the mentor manager or the mentee manager.

F

A

The description we have is about the people who, like the fourth item, which is someone to help them around preparation, matching and kickoff meetings. So we have like I I, don't graphs about this, but we don't have anything about the mentee last time, but we don't have it like written in words.

A

Sadly, solo is not here.

A

We have the recording so.

B

When I submit to this new paragraph, it's because I'm, not at my home right now, but as soon as I got back today, I'll watch out the last you know provides a MIDI notes.

E

Okay, so we can, we can just talk about it again, real quick. So should we start? What's the most important, the mentor manager, mentee manager, the you said: you have the number for the round corporation mashing, you kickoff meeting, so we don't need that one. So the only two left are meant to our manager, mentee manager, which one should we discuss. You.

A

Know first I think we should discuss if we want them. They want one person to do this like for both.

A

D

Think potentially list them separately and then say you know note these could be the same person.

E

Yeah like when we, when we have our last meeting, they were pretty different in what they were doing if I remember correctly and so said that my brain is fuzzy that I don't actually remember what we said about them. Yeah.

A

I can try to recall what we want to be discussed, so basically, the person who's gonna like be in contact with the mentees they're gonna, like pink them on like intervals, let's say every one week, every two weeks and but this personal connection that they can like contact this person at any time and be able to raise any issues like hey I'm, not comfortable with what's happening or something wrong has happened, or everything is great and I. Have this like feedback or just like everything is fine, and so we need to have this.

A

Like two-way communication or personal connection being built between the this, we can call it men danger or something yeah, so this is basically for the mentors for the mentees, for the mentors is less slightly different that basically, the main thing that we need from mentors is collecting feedback to make sure that we're like paying attention to their concerns. Things like my mentee is not replying on my emails or they're not being responsive and also we need to so. This is like a continuous process that we always need to get their feedback and improve the program.

A

So we need like two, because the elementors are like a part of what is happening. We also need to gather feedback from the mentors about what's going wrong and what's congrat and inviting them to the meetings stuff like that.

A

So this is like the main things I have in mind for these two different roles. They.

D

A

D

Similar I'm in I know they're gonna be different because mentors are different than mentees, but as far as the core roles, they both sound like they're, partially Support Specialists, like you know, someone that can be reached out to and can resolve things and then the other part of it is feedback collecting feedback.

D

And then you know trying to maybe compile that for us or use it to direct our decisions, which I do agree, that it would be preferable if those were two separate people between the mentors and mentees and we, depending on how much of a response we get could potentially be for different people. You know mentees support, mentor, support, mentee feedback, mentor feedback, that's how I'm kind of seeing it so far. I.

C

Don't want to be a little careful, for people might be a little bit much just in so much as you've got. Then two people contacting the mentees and two people contacting the mentors and the.

D

Way, well, okay, so the support stuff in my mind, would be not active. It would be somewhere. It is listed, hey contact this person. If you have issues and then feedback would actively reach out and gather feedback chaotically. All.

C

Right yeah because I feel like there should be one person and charge of like kind of that weekly touch right, hey. How are you doing? How are things going like anything that you need right.

D

And I should pop I'm, not against that being. You know just two people, that's totally fine they're, just saying, as we scale or yeah.

A

I definitely feel they're, having, like my opinion, just having one person, especially because right now, we're like the ground is over or we're not exactly sure, what's happening so the round should be over. We did not like contact the mentors to check on them, which is partially my fault and.

C

F

C

To them there was one now that that's acceptable or enough, but so we did do one yeah.

A

So I guess having one person, especially because when we initially start so the next round, I I, don't think we should aim to bring like lots of mentors. Maybe just like this round like five to 10 people, so 20 people in total, so I think this could be handled by one person and I. Think if that is not the case, we can then ask for one more person after we initialize like the process of recruiting, like the first person in the first place, yeah.

E

It seems reasonable, okay, so the qualities of the person that we're looking for is someone who is capable of do like being diligent enough to do that check in regularly, not forgetting being able to record that information and put it in a like a good format and then be able to surface any issues to us am I forgetting.

A

C

I think that sounds good yeah I.

A

Think we can like make it in the process so, on the calm, calm before someone joins the calm calm as a member, they have to attempt a certain number of meetings and like they, they have to contribute in some way like they have to be active in some way with the calm calm for it to be like reason, but why they want to join so I think we can have something similar.

A

This way, we can ensure that we have a pro just to ensure that these people are like this person that has joined this meeting a certain criteria, so we can have like on like when we start each meeting. We can have this like checking if this person did actually like fill up and provide us like their updates, and we can actually like have them as members after a certain like period or a number of meetings or a certain like level of contribution.

A

What do you think I'm not sure if this is a brilliant idea.

E

So that it's just basically coming up with a process for evaluation. First.

D

Yeah I do you feel like we should vet them somehow somewhat I, don't know how, but it does seem a little weird to just take a random person off the internet. That said I'll, do it and say, okay, go talk to all of our mentors and mentees you're just go eat mail them all or what you know I mean.

A

Yeah I, agree, I, think I think it makes sense to just check like on each me like. When we start each meeting, we can have the status check that okay, okay, bye, yes, I- guess like having a small process to just make sure that this person is I, think that we expect yeah I, think that makes sense before we like invite them to become official members, especially because we had this experience in the past. So we had Conrad.

A

We have Justin, we had aj g.

A

So we we were excited that these people joined the team and we made them members immediately, but sadly like they fell through quite fastly after they became members, so yeah I think coming the process. First well,.

D

I know it's kind of unreal, a time in know-how and relay it, but the the four positions are different and the fourth one is not really the same as the people that contact mentors, but they do fit better into the goal of bringing someone on board like there's no harm in letting someone join the meetings and try to help us plan and facilitate how we're gonna do the next round and that kind of stuff. So if we could bring people on in that regard, just have them sit down on the meetings and give their input.

D

Maybe that would be enough to get to know if they're a good fit for the other positions.

B

A

Yeah so you're so just think to ask for someone to join the team in general and after that.

D

Really join just just during the meetings initially and help us plan or give their input. I guess kind of, like I did initially before yeah.

A

Similar to how solid joined basically, yes,.

D

A

Know is the community manager.

E

Like are we like are: what are we deficient and in input and ideas? Are we just deficient and hours required to like implement and do these things that we talked about yeah.

D

It's more so, yes,.

F

A

So basically, we have feedback from like everyone that is contributing to the program, and we also like brainstorm on every meeting how to improve stuff I. Think it's only like execution and ours.

D

Even needs to go to the meeting ends I did want to mention. We probably need to update the readme as far as members. Salo is not even listed and we don't have any titles. So we could put the community manager thing for silo and potentially formalize what we're having Eva do with the kumkum color or coming liaison, or something of that sort. Yeah.

A

Yeah I think we should like put a code team, core team and community manager so under identified we do have the team members but they're not specified on the next. My name project lead and community committee champion, which needs to be updated now, anyways, so yeah I think it makes sense to do that.

A

Yeah, so we're running out of time. We have one left left. Do you think we should wrap this up? Yeah.

D

In case there's another meeting directly after like there was less yeah.

A

Yeah, okay, so I would reach out to Eva to tell her like what we need to do and I'll ping, your own slack, I guess after this meeting I'm just hopefully like if you have like some time at synchronously to reply on the channel. Just to finalize this sound, send a tweet about it. Perfect, okay,.

E

What about right, access to the to the repo like hat, is that the possibility we talked about that I think before yeah.

A

Okay, I promise I'll open an issue today and the come-come task for access for both me. You and AJ: okay, cool, okay, thanks we running out of time. So we have to wrap up the meeting thanks. Everyone thanks David thanks EJ, all right.

D

Thank you guys.