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A
So
welcome
to
the
node.js
technical
steering
committee
meeting
for
april
15th
2021
we'll
follow
our
standard
agenda,
as
was
tagged
in
the
issue
within
the
repository.
A
A
B
No,
I
don't
have
anything.
Okay,.
A
A
C
C
But
I
think
there
was
like
one
option
was
to
also
put
into
the
documentation.
You
know
this
api
is
discouraged
or
whatever
and
not
actually
called
legacy.
A
C
I
think
that
discussion
can
continue
in
the
issue,
though,.
A
Right,
so
should
I
let's
see
is
that
something
that
we
should
comment
on
in
the
issue
like
basically
we've
discussed
it
at
the
tse
was
kind
of
the
feeling
you
know
we're
going
to
let
the
discussion
continue
in
the
issue.
Put
it
back
on
the
agenda.
If
you
think
there's
you
know
you
have,
you
want
the
tsc
to
weigh
in
again.
A
General
feeling,
like
I
said,
general
feeling,
was
one
it's
too
early
to
mark
them
as
legacy
to
it.
Would
a
good
a
good
alter
alternative
would
be
to
update
stocks
to
discourage
their
use,
explain,
explain
the
issue
and
how
the
promises
based
apis
solve
them.
A
D
A
Okay,
so
thanks
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
one,
which
is
dns
default
to
verbatim
true
in
dns
lookup.
A
So
this
one,
I
can
see
reuben
you've
been
involved
in
the
discussion.
Do
you
want
to
take
this
one.
E
So
the
main
problem
here
is
and
that
it
would
break
in
the
ecosystem
in
a
substantial
way
so,
and
this
would
on
a
lot
of
systems
without
any
other
change.
Just
failed
a
lot
of
tests
and
even
regular
code,
where
people
anticipated
that
localhost
would
be
one
two,
seven
dot
7.0.0.1.
A
E
E
The
suggestion
here
was
to
move
forward
with
an
alternative
where
it
would
be
a
where
people
would
be
able
to
opt
into
the
behavior
for
the
node.js
instance-
and
this
is
probably
a
good
way
to
do
this
as
a
december
miner
in
the
beginning,
and
then
we
can
still
see
if
we
would
want
to
have
like
a
special
behavior
for
local
hosts
that
would
always
resolve
to
127.0.0.1
instead
of
if
even
if
the
ipv4
version
6
one
would
be
returned,
that
might
be
an
alternative,
but
it
was
not
yet
fully
discussed.
E
Like
and
the
specific
one,
I
would
say
yes,
it
is
blocked.
Let
me
check
it
was
added
here.
E
Yeah,
so
having
an
opt-in
for
now
on
a
global
scope,
that
would
be
a
good
way
of
dealing
with
it.
For
now,
we
could
land
that,
as
december
miner,.
F
Mateo
has
commented
on
the
v16
pr
that
he'd
like
to
see
it
merged
in
v16,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible.
E
E
A
H
H
A
A
A
Suggesting
actually,
maybe
that's
not
the
right,
I'm
I
may
be
pasting
on
the
wrong
one
though
yeah,
so
so,
maybe
that
should
specifically
reference
the
the
pr
you
mentioned.
No,
that
sounds
good.
That's
good!
Okay!
So
maybe
I'll
comment
that,
should
I
take
it
off
the
tse
agenda
or
leave
it
on?
Do
we
think.
A
G
Yep
mainly
tag
just
for
visibility,
and
so
the
release
is
due
to
go
out
on
tuesday
most
of
the
contents
finalized.
I
have
put
an
ask
out
for
people
to.
Let
me
know
if
there's
any
particular
bug
fixes
or
patches.
I
should
wait
for
before
generating
the
final
rc,
so
yeah.
It
was
mainly
on
there
for
visibility.
G
There
is
a
comment
in
the
proposal
where
I
called
out
all
of
this:
some
of
the
majors
that
landed
technically
past
to
cut
off.
So
if
people
have
any
objections
to
those,
please
well,
please
check
it
out
and
let
us
know
if
you
have
any
objections
before
tuesday,
so
we
have
time
to
revert
it
and
so
far
everyone's
put
thumbs
up
to
the
ones
we
included
after
the
lead
line,
and
yes,
so
on
tuesday
it
will
be
released.
G
We're
coordinating
a
release
announcement
with
the
openjs
foundation
that
is
sent
out
to
the
tsc
email
just
before
this
call.
So
if
you
could
check
that
out
and
review
as
well,
that
would
be
good
and
other
than
that
there
are
a
few
citroen
failures
that
I'm
gonna
try
and
dig
into,
and
that's
it
everything's.
Almost
ready.
A
A
Okay,
the
next
one
is
number
three,
seven,
two,
seven
seven,
which
is
depp's
ad
yarn.
We
discussed
that
last
time
and
agreed
that
we
would
put
together
a
vote,
there's
some
fairly
active
discussion
in
the
issue
in
terms
of
what
the
question
should
be
and
look
like.
B
A
Sorry
not
as
a
non-expert
is
there
anything
about
the
settings.
That's
interesting
or
there
are.
B
Things
like
making
the
vote
private
or
not,
requiring
folks
to
vote
for
every
option
or
not.
F
F
B
That,
because
some
folks
will
abstain
from
from
the
boat,
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
not
require.
A
B
A
Yeah,
I
think,
like
buyer,
by
our
governance-
I
I
don't
think
they
would
vote
if
they're
not
onboarded,
so
that
would
be
a
question
yeah.
That's
not
one
I've
thought
about.
So
I'm
not
sure
whether
we
should
do
that.
I
know
we
don't
want
to
drag
it
out
too
long,
but
that
that
is
definitely
a
good
question.
A
A
The
and
then
I
don't
know
like
in
terms
of
time,
like
I
think,
leaving
it
open
for
a
week,
is
probably
long
enough.
I'm
not
sure
what
people
think.
A
F
A
C
I
mean
we
can't
make
a
decision
either
way,
regardless
of,
if
you
don't
have
small
or
minority
in
either
direction.
So
having
a
time
limit,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
that.
B
A
A
A
I
mean
I
guess
that
it
does
beg
the
question
in
terms
of
using
our
like
what
a
simple
majority
means
for
what
is
it
rsv,
probably
getting
that
wrong.
C
A
A
H
B
A
Yeah,
that
would
make
sense,
and
I
I
guess,
what
we're
thinking
that
means
that,
whatever
whatever
choice
is
selected,
it
needs
to
have
at
least
half
the
people.
Have
you
know
half
the
tse
having
voted
for
it
once
you
eliminate
once
you
go
through
the
rcv
process,
so
it
you
know
if
it's
not
on,
if
it's
your
second
choice,
that
could
still
count
as
as
one
of
those
votes.
But
if
you
didn't
vote
for
it
at
all,
then
it
wouldn't
count.
A
A
B
We
evaluate
how
water
is
going
after
one
week.
A
A
A
No
okay:
let's
move
on
to
the
next
issue,
which
is
three
six
one
one
one.
This
is
the
tls,
improve
compliance
with
shutdown
standard
and
remove
hacks.
I
know
we've
talked
about
this
a
few
times.
It's
quite
a
a
complex
issue,
tobias
tobias
said
you
know,
sort
of
volunteered
to
take
a
look
and
dive
into
it.
C
No,
it's
it's
a
tricky
one,
I'm
good
with
it.
I
think
tobias
is
good
with
it
as
well
hard
to
say
exactly
what's
you
know
whether
this
will
have
open
other
issues
of
bugs,
but
I
think
it
looks
good.
Would
it
be
nice
to
have
james
opinion
on
it,
but
other
than
that,
I
don't
think
there's
anything
further.
We
can
do.
A
C
F
A
Okay,
so
let's
move
on
to
the
next
one,
so
rename
default
branch
for
master
domain
or
something
similar,
I'm
not
sure,
there's
too
much
to
discuss
there
other
than
to
you
know
just
remind
people
if
they
have
some
cycles
to
go
through
and
look
at
some
of
the
repos
you're
familiar
with
and
help
get
that
happened.
I
thank
many
thanks
to
michael
to
michael
zasso
who
went
through
and
I
think
he
did
that
for
like
22
repos.
A
So
we
are
making
progress
continue
to
work
on
it.
Anything
else
that
people
think
we
should
talk
about
on
that
one.
This
week.
A
Okay,
so
let's
move
on
so
moderation,
team
certification.
This
is
number
one
zero.
Two
four
one,
zero
one
four.
A
A
A
I
guess
robert
and
antoine,
if
you
have
you
managed
to
fill
in
the
spreadsheet
that
all
makes
sense.
Okay,
I
don't
know
chalker
if
you've
then
taken
a
look
at
the
results.
H
Okay,
because
there
are
some
recent
updates.
Okay,
let's
wait
a
bit
more,
I
think,
but
most
likely
we'll
be
moving
through
the
meetings.
One
hour
later
and
one
meeting,
let
me
check
the
data.
A
A
The
next
one
is
9
a.m:
eastern
on
the
22nd
which,
which
is
a
week
today,.
A
Let's
see,
I
open
up
the
issue,
no,
that's
not
the
issue
current
time,
9
et
and
utc.
H
It's
unlikely,
probably
2pm
you'd,
see
much.
That's
the
most
contribution,
one
inch
to
move
that,
let's,
let's
not
move
that
one
here.
If
it
was
one
of
the
two
other
time
slots,
we
could
just
move
that
one
hour
later
already,
because
okay,
that's
for
the
days,
tells
me,
but
for
the
next
one.
Let's
keep
that
as
it
is,
and
after
that
move
to
the
new
time
slots.
A
B
So
we
have
two
folks
who
haven't
filled
the
spreadsheet
yet,
should
we
contact
them
directly
just
make
sure
that
everyone
feels
a
spreadsheet
before
making
a
decision.
A
Like
we
can't,
we
can't
chase
everybody
forever,
but
you
know
another
note
another
heads
up
that
says:
hey
we
noticed,
do
you
have
that
list?
Could
you
send
an
email
to
the
to
those
people
kind
of
saying
hey?
A
A
A
Okay,
the
next
one
is
the
apple
silicon
plan,
so
that
was
on
the
agenda
because
it
was
of
good
interest
and
just
looking
to
see
if
there's
any
updates.
A
Yeah,
I
don't
see
any
recent
updates,
but
I
think
my
understanding
is
we're
basically
set
to
have
apple
silicon
binaries
for
the
16.x
release
and
that
the
package
installer
will
create
a
fat
binary
which
has
support
for
both
intel
and
apple
silicon.
So
I
think
we're
good
beth
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
on
that,
one.
G
I
think
it's
good.
I
haven't
yet
run
an
rc
that
picks
up
the
new
binaries.
I
hope
to
do
that
soon
like
today
tomorrow
morning
and
send
it
out
to
people
with
both
flavors
of
mac,
to
try
out.
A
A
Okay,
so
that's
good
thanks
to
ash,
who
did
a
did
a
lot
of
work
on
getting
that
in
place
and
everybody
else
who
helped
them.
A
The
next
issue
is
potential
stagnation
of
the
open
issues,
nationwide
bounty
program.
So
that's
in
the
the
ecosystem.
Vulnerability
program,
which
we've
agreed
to
wind
down,
have
had
some
more
back
and
forth
got
confirmation
from
the
openjs
foundation
that
our
proposed
approach
is
okay
and
I've
just
put
together
the
blog
post.
That
snick
is
taking
a
look
at
and
the
open
js
foundation
stuff.
So
that's
sort
of
moving
moving
slowly
forward.
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
it
doesn't
doesn't
say
that
there's
anything
extra
than
you
know,
basically
a
regular
approval
of
a
pr
for
landing.
So
I
would
say
that
you
know:
there's
no
okay,
I've
said
stress.
We
have
time
to
approve
it.
I'm
going
to
comment
and
say
you
know
tail.
This
has
had
enough
time
for
people
to
object
objective.
A
But
any
if
anybody
on
the
tse
here
can
go-
and
you
know
add
approvals
that
would
be.
That
would
be
great
or
if
anybody
has
any
concerns,
then
you
know
again
to
go
there.
A
A
Let
me
open
that
and
we'll
just
take
a
quick
look.
People
we
have
here
build
resources
is
one,
but
I
don't
have
an
update
on
that.
A
I
think
really
that
one
you
know
in
terms
of
asking
for
additional
funding
or
anything
from
the
board
is
probably
waiting
till
the
overall
economic
climate
improves
a
little
bit.
So
no
update
on
that
mary
is
there
any
updates
on
the
future
of
tool
chains.
A
No.
Okay,.