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Description
A
So
welcome
to
the
node.js
technical
steering
committee
meeting
for
August
14
2019
we're
gonna
follow
our
standard
outline
with
a
tweak
to
get
an
update
on
whatever
strategic
initiatives
earlier
earlier
on.
But
first,
let's
start
out
with.
If
there's
any
announcements
that
people
would
like
to
share.
B
A
A
A
C
Basically,
what
it
lets
us
do
is
put
down
a
version
of
Python
in
a
in
a
virtual
space
like
a
docker
container,
but
even
lighter
than
that,
and
then
we
own
that
I
thought
we
we
can
install
our
own
dependencies.
We
can
change
the
version
we
can
do
whatever
without
affecting
the
underlying
machine,
so
both
or
for
node
and
for
gif
I.
Think
that
that
we
need
to
live
in
virtual
environments
and
original
some.
A
C
And-
and
you
know,
sort
of
once
it's
built
and
once
it's
up
and
running
on
the
the
person's
machine
Python
disappears.
You
know,
Pike
Python
really
has
no
need
and
has
no
role
in
that
in
ongoing
execution
of
runs
by
itself,
and
you
know
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
community
to
say
you
know
why
don't
we
just
get
rid
of
Python
and
and
I
I'm,
not
resistant
to
that
idea.
C
I
think
it's
actually
a
better
idea,
but
in
the
short
term
we
we
do
have
this
problem,
that
increasingly
distros
are
dropping
python
and
and
for
depending
on
python,
so
so
I
think
that's
the
place
that
would
never
have,
but
it's
really
not
used
in
the
runtime
of
no.
It's
really
used
in
the
build
steps.
Okay
and.
C
B
B
C
A
After
that,
so
I
tracked
that
that's
good
to
just
fill
in
the
defense
seek
I,
guess
yeah.
That
was
the
only
question.
I
was
just
wondering
then,
if
it's
like
back
to
like
other
specific
things
that
are
you'd
like
to
raise
in
terms
of
things
that
are
underway
or
need
priority
or
need
help
that
kind
of
stuff
yeah.
C
So
I
a
handful
of
PRS
that
are
that
are
that
have
sort
of
been
percolating
around
in
different
forms
that
we
need
to
close
out.
But
but
then
you
know
really,
you
know.
The
thrust
of
what
we
need
to
do
is
the
bottom
of
of
this,
which
is
you
know.
We
need
to
either
migrate
from
no
chip
to
chip
3
or
we
need
to
continue
to
work
on
jiff
three.
So
I
really
need
us
to
finalize
that
choice
again.
C
B
Glad
to
see
we're
having
the
gift
versus
jiff
of,
but
with
geoip
instead
of
yeah
anyway.
My
understanding
is
that
is
that
there's
a
there's,
a
pretty
strong
desire
to
make
that
happen.
There
are
a
couple
of
little.
You
know
bureaucratic
things
that
need
to
be.
You
know,
boxes
that
need
to
be
checked
off
before
we
can
do
that.
If
anybody
is
aware
of
anything
to
the
contrary,
please
speak
up,
but
that's
that's.
Certainly
my
understanding.
A
C
So
so
some
other
places
where
help
is
needed.
You
know
VA
is
a
dependency.
That's
got
a
fair
amount
of
old
Python
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
that,
but
I'm
gonna
need
help
there.
You
know,
as
as
we
find
things
in
me,
that
need
to
be
changed.
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
change
them
quickly,
but
but
also
push
back
into
v8
quickly,
so
so
help
help
they're
on.
C
While
for
use
or
yeah
so
I
think
that
that
process
is
slow
and-
and
you
know,
I
think
if
you
look
at
at
the
PR
there,
you'll
see
it's
a
rather
long
PR
and
we
worked
at
it
for
a
long
time.
But
there
is
nice
movement
there.
Their
processes
is
highly
different,
yeah,
really
an
expert
on
it
and
and
the
others
in
the
community
that
can
do
that.
So
I
will
try
to
rely
on
them.
C
So
then
there's
the
work
on
the
build
machines
and
I
think
you
know.
Sam
and
Ron
are
working
that
and
we
need
to
continue
to
work
that
Jenkins
and
windows
are
two
things:
I'm,
not
strong
in
so
so
you
know,
as
we
get
into
those
spaces
I'm
going
to
need
help
in
Jenkins
and
Windows,
but
but
I
think
that
covers
that
we're
really
not
so
far
away.
I
think
we
we
do
need
to
figure
out.
You
know,
generate
your
projects,
things
so
that
so
that
we
can
move
forward.
C
B
A
A
D
D
One
signal
that
so
for
both
things:
Pokemon
fans
that
I
think
the
edge
between
just
change
and
setting
like
that
which
will
not
gain
as
much
adoption
and
not
cause
the
change
in
the
system
that
it
is
supposed
to
polls,
including
it
means
value
and
for
the
additional
save
garage.
So
that's
which
can
be
run
on
the
start,
because
I
would
like
to
notice
like
that
for
teens
now
and
which
you
can
sleep
that
definition.
If
that
China
or
is
some
problems,
message
are
solution
there.
A
A
major
difference
between
a
command
line
flag
and
what
you
propose
is
that
the
command
line
flag
is
it's
like
the
person
who's
running
the
app
decides
of
that
versus
in
the
code.
The
application
developer
dismiss
them
right
and
that's
why
I
can
see
your
argument
that
they're
actually
quite
a
different
thing
and
you're
asking
a
different
person
like
if
the
developer
turns
it
on
and
sees
that
their
dependencies
have
problems.
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D
A
D
A
B
E
B
Is
that
so,
yes,
Anatoli,
and
neither
of
them
were
here
but
github
stalled
out
and
they
both
have
expressed
the
opinion
that
they
feel,
like
they've,
said
what
they
need
to
say
so,
I'm
of
the
opinion
that
this
is
very
likely
heading
for
a
vote.
Of
course
we
always
like
to
avoid
that,
but
this
this
one's
been
open
for
quite
a
while
and
does
not
seem
to
be
moving
and
and
I
don't
have
ideas
as
to
how
to
get
it
moving.
B
A
Yeah,
certainly
from
the
history
I,
don't
see,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's.
The
question
is
a
little
bit
better
frame
now
in
that,
at
least
from
my
understanding,
the
key
issue
is
is:
is
the
object
you
get
from
async
hooks?
The
like
is
the
contract
that
you
should
get
the
actual
object
which
this
PR
changes,
I
think
in
a
particular
instance,
and
if
that
is
the
contract,
then
you
know
that
might
be
breaking
the
contract.
But
the
last
comment
in
the
issue
actually
says
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
contract
in
other
places,
yeah.
B
I
mean
it
would
be
really
helpful
if
there,
if
we
had
like
a
defined
team
of
async,
hooks
folks
to
like
weigh
in
on
that
who
aren't
Anatoli.
Not
not.
You
know,
just
because
you
know
be
nice
to
have
more
than
one
yeah
one
or
you
know,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
really
did
I'm
in
check
to
see
who's
on
the
async
hooks
team,
even
if
they're,
if
there
is
one
and
yeah.
A
A
B
F
B
A
A
One
is
building
with
foe
I,
see
by
default
number
19
to
14
this
one
I
put
on
the
agenda
because
there
was
some
discussion
in
a
thread.
That's
been
open
quite
a
long
time
about
so
I
see
you
and
you
know
the
just
wanted
to
have
it
on
the
agenda
here
to
see
if
we
could
get
some
feedback
in
terms
of
like
hey,
you
know
turning
on
by
default,
that's
just
his.
You
know.
People
have
concerns
or,
and
there's
no
concerns-
maybe
we
can
do
it.
A
If
there
are
concerns,
then
you
know
maybe
it's
a
non-starter
but
trying
to
to
sort
of
get
some
direction
back
to
the
people
participating
in
the
issue
from
the
TSC
on
that
front,
and
the
trade-off
is
basically
that
you
know
it's
difficult.
There
are
some
challenges
because
we
don't
include
to
pull
it
fully,
see
you
in
that.
You
know
people
running
code
can't
depend
on
it
with
the
flipside
being
that
increases
the
the
binary
sucks
I.
A
G
B
Yeah
so
James
framed
it
with
you
know.
The
concern
is
doubling
the
binary
size.
Jeremih
doing
this,
we
require
more
builds
miles,
it
would
add
11
megabytes
to
the
checkout,
but
check
I
was
already
500
megabytes
blob.
Well,
you
get
the
idea
yeah,
but
nothing
was
really.
Nothing
was
really
decided.
Yeah.
A
G
B
A
A
A
B
E
It
not
having
full
ICU
means
it
strings,
behave
differently
in
nodes
and
they
do
in
the
web
browser
and
it's
kind
of
strange
and
annoying
to
people
so
I
think
we
said
we
should
tend
towards
consistency
unless
there's
a
really
strong
reason
not
to,
whereas
before
I
think
we
were
attending,
we
are
considering
ICU
as
a
fringe
feature,
not
as
important
as
size,
but
I
think
we
should
switch.
That
balance,
though
I'm
super
not
keen
to
have
put
the
built
group
responsible
for
more
types
of
build,
artifacts.
B
A
A
What
it
would
it
make
sense,
I'm
just
thinking
of
different
ideas.
We
could
do
some
sort
of
informal
poll,
you
know
to
get
it.
You
know,
I,
don't
know
if
people
you
know
don't
want
to
speak
up,
but
like
it
you
know
we
could
do
a
poll
from
the
TSN
member
saying
you
know.
Are
you
opposed
to
adding
it
by
default
or
not,
or
what?
How
do
people
think
that
facilitating
figuring
out
how,
where
we
stand,
would
make
sense.
A
B
B
Mean
if
Sam
is
the
only
opinionated
voice
and
by
opinionated
egg
I,
don't
really
mean
opinionated
as
much
as
someone
who
you
know
is
willing
to
go.
4,
plus
1
or
4
minus
1
on
this
yeah
I
mean
we
might
want
to
check.
We
might
want
to
check
in
the
mailing
list.
Just
involve
the
other
9
people
who
are
who
are
on
the
TSC,
who
are
here,
but.
B
A
A
B
A
H
F
B
So
the
windows
temp
directory
thing
that
I
mentioned
last
week
landed.
So
that's
good,
but
yeah.
Focus
now
is
on
is
on
improving
the
windows
test
story
right
now.
This
is
getting
a
little
far
afield
from
what
the
strategic
initiative
was
initially
about,
but
I'm
I'm
hopeful
that
at
some
point
we'll
work
back
to
backwards
to
you
know
how
do
we
Matt
you
know?
How
do
we
reasonably
manage
our
resources?
You
know
so
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anything
to
put
in
the
notes.
But,
okay,
there
you
go.
A
First,
initiatives
in
terms
of
the
next
thing
is
the
tracking
she
was
the
update
on
the
board
meetings.
There
is
a
board
meeting,
I
believe
it's
August
23rd,
which
would
not
be
this
week
but
the
week
after.
So,
if
you
have
any
issues,
let
you
know
you
know.
The
one
issue
that
was
mentioned
before
is
around
Jim's
reading
some
questions
for
the
the
legal
team.
A
The
one
thing
on
the
CPC
front,
since
we
don't
have
Matteo
I,
will
call
to
attention,
and
maybe
we
should
discuss
a
little
bit-
is
the
proposal
which
is
out
there
to
basically
move
the
travel
fund
from
the
sort
of
admin,
CPC,
calm,
calm
level
to
the
CPC
level
in
the
open,
Jas
foundation,
and
we
definitely
want
feedback
from
the
kong-kong
and
the
the
TSE
on
that.
So
I
guess
you
know
from
the
people
here
or
there
some
any
concerns
it
should
be
voiced,
discussed.