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A
Kicking
things
off
now
in
a
more
formal
way,
so
I
lost
the.
I
lost
the
issue
that
I
was
working
on.
The
other
day,
close
browser
logos
didn't
back
up
the
issue
like
in
the
state
that
it
was
in
when
we
were
on
the
call
last
week-
and
I
just
didn't
that
like
finally
got
around
to
creating
the
pr
for
that
to
check
in
this
dock
and
like
collaborate
on
this
stuff
in
a
place
that
isn't
going
to
be
locked.
B
Actually,
let
me
close
anything
that
might
share
information
here.
Cool.
Are
we
recording?
We
are
now
cool,
hey
everyone.
This
is
our
every
two
weeks
meeting
of
the
node
tooling
group
for
people
joining
us
on
youtube.
B
B
First
off,
I
guess
everyone
can
add
themselves
into
the
agenda.
It's
a
present.
B
C
Yeah,
no,
no
real
update
on
that.
For
me,
I've
been
pretty
slammed
over
the
last
couple
weeks.
So
yeah,
nothing!
Really!
Oh,
oh
sorry,
to
interrupt
yeah!
No!
That's
right!
We
did
last
meeting.
We
did
ping
a
couple
people
and
got
a
couple
comments
here.
I
see.
B
You
want
me
to
read
them
aloud,
so
so
ryan
zim
who's,
one
of
the
collaborators
on
fs
extra
replied.
B
B
I
think
that
will
be
the
devil
in
the
details
like
if
it's
like
we've
talked
about
how
we
wanted
to
have
glob
for
rim
raft
too
right,
I
don't
see
mini
match
or,
let's
see
a
glob
librating
pulled
in
so
I
don't
know.
Theoretically,
I
would
assume
that
we
are
as
faithful
to
the
implementation
as
possible
if
it
doesn't
involve
pulling
in
50
libraries
right.
C
Yeah,
I
think,
maybe
that's
a
good
next
step.
There
is
to
kind
of
follow
up
on
what
some
of
those
comments
are
saying
and
maybe
get
an
idea
of
what
would
actually
be
involved
in
in
bringing
that
functionality
in
because
yeah,
if
it
does
have
a
number
of
like
external
dependencies.
A
B
Issue
and
cx-rest
is
saying
that
perhaps
the
copy
or
rsync
modules
are
more
full.
Well,
I
mean
our
sync
we're
not
going
to
pull
an
rsa.
Well,
I
shouldn't
say
that
actually
we
could
like.
If
we
wanted
to
have
a
c
binding,
I
guess
we
could
pull
on
our
sink.
Shouldn't
have
just
reacted
like
that,
and
then,
alternatively,
he
was
suggesting
the
well.
I
think
that
I
think
those
are
both
unix
clinic
doc
pages.
C
C
What
we
did
with
yeah
with
rm
right,
it's
heavily
based
on
the
the
unix
like
rm.
C
Yeah
and
so
yeah
I'll
follow
up
on
that.
Like
I
said
I
just
I,
I
really
just
haven't
had
time
in
the
last
couple
weeks
to
do
anything
there,
so
I'll
try
and
get
back
to
that.
B
I
guess
the
it
sounds
like
the
person
to
reach
out
to
is
this
mandy
person
see,
maybe
that
maybe
they'll
have
a
lot
of
the
time
the
people
have
actually
implemented.
It
will
have
opinions
about
the
shortcomings
or
how
far
they
would
go.
B
B
Okay,
cranking
our
way
through
the
agenda.
B
C
B
B
C
Sure
I'm
just
curious,
like
we're
in
the
process
of
migrating
from
note
12
to
14
right
now
and
so
we'll
probably
be
running
note
14
for
the
next.
You
know
year
and
a
half
or
two
years.
B
B
It's
it's
we're
not
calling
it
breaking,
as
I
said,
because
it's
experimental,
I
think,
there's
just
a
little
bit
of
a.
B
D
Okay,
yeah
yeah.
Are
you
doing
14.,
not
yet
I'll,
probably
help
with
some
of
the
backwards,
but
yeah
I'm
just
getting
wrapped
up
on
the
lts.
B
C
D
B
A
C
E
If
you
all
are
gonna
kind
of
pair
or
take
a
look
at
that
back
porting,
I
I'd
love
to
be
involved
as
well.
I
was
curious
about
it
before
roy.
What's.
D
Maybe
like
wednesday
after
the
npn
meeting
after
the
opener
call,
maybe
that's
a
good
time.
Okay,.
D
It's
it's
after
it
ends
at
3,
00,
p.m,
eastern,
okay,
so
four
sure,
let
me
take
a
look
at
my
computer.
B
B
I'm
free
at
3pm
next
week:
let's
do
it!
Okay,
I'm
going
to
put
it
in
my
calendar,
so
I
don't
forget:
3
p.m:
pairing
with
roy
backward.
B
Here
yeah,
so
ian
sutherland
roy
and
I
don't
know
if
I
have
your
email.
B
Okay,
I
am
sending
that
right
now.
B
Okay,
let
me
so
that
would
be
sorry
that
would
be
12
1,
2
3,
so
I'd
be
12
p.m.
My
time
yes.
B
E
B
B
B
A
Yeah,
so
I
just
opened
up
a
pr
adding
the
dock,
essentially
under
the
initiatives
folder.
I
thought
this
was
the
best
place
for
us
to
be
pushing
this
forward.
Now
like
it
essentially
can
be
like
a
working
doc.
That's
actually
yeah,
and
I
guess
an
update
here
as
well.
Internally,
actually
went
back
and
and
had
a
couple
meetings
with
isaac,
and
so
the
proposal
has
changed
a
little
bit
since
the
last
time.
You
would
have
seen
it
if
you
want
to
check
out
the
most
recently
rendered
version.
A
You
know
we
can
add
more
resources
to
all
the
discussions
that
have
been
had,
but
essentially
the
two
things
that
are
new
are
essentially
like
three
things
that
are
new
since
the
last
time
we
talked
about
this
one
was
the
ability
to
add
short
short
aliases,
essentially,
which
would
respect
the
multiples
and
with
values
still,
and
you
can
see
actually
how
they
in
the
examples
you
can
actually
see
how
like
that,
would
work
out,
as
well
as
the
idea
that
potentially
we
would
provide
a
flag
or
sorry
flag,
a
boolean
for
strict
strict
mode.
A
So
similarly,
this
would
essentially
throw
if
we
provided
a
you
know,
input
that
it.
You
know
it's
if
it
saw
flags
that
weren't
clearly
defined
with
like
with
value
or
in
short,
and
so
yeah
essentially
took
the
faqs.
That
isaac
had
originally
put
also
into
the
initial
issue
thread
and
we
went
through
them
together,
essentially
giving
like
a
an
answer,
one
way
or
another,
to
these
questions,
and
we
can
add
to
this
list,
there's
some
the
other.
This
could
be
updated
as
well,
but
yeah.
A
The
starting
point
also
has
changed
a
little
bit.
So
if
you
go
to
the
very
top
there's
a
initial
proposal
for
maynards,
which
was
like
going
back
all
the
way
to
the
original,
you
know
what
are
people
doing
today
to
sell
for
this?
Can
we
at
least
start
here
introduce
mainargs
and
then
utilize
that,
as
essentially
the
default
value
we
use
inside
of
parsogs?
So
first,
let's
like
try
to
implement
something
extremely
simple,
which
is:
let's
not
ask
people
to
continue
to
slice.
Our
degree
provide
this
new.
B
I
introduced
this
into
yards
and
people
hate
it,
so
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
just
use
the
node
version.
I
did
something
called
hide
bin
and
they're
like
what
the
heck's
hide
men,
I
feel
I
feel,
like
main
argues,
would
be
way
better.
Sorry
interrupting,
yes,
hyde
bin.
Does
this
yeah?
That's
it
yeah.
D
D
A
I
would
think
when
the
biggest
change
with
what
we're
doing
now,
the
fundamental
change
that
I
started
with
was
the
coercion
of
values.
Like
is
now
that's
not
a
thing
anymore,
and
I
think
that
that
literally
has
allowed
us
to
like
open
this
back
up
a
little
bit
and
so
like
the
aliasing
is
just
of
shorts
to
flags
like
with
values,
I
think
is
like
a
nice
additive.
B
Topic-
I
remember
us
talking
about
that.
I
think
my
complaint
with
mainargs
back
in
the
day
was
just
that,
if
that
was
all
we
got
to
to,
it
doesn't
add
a
huge
amount
of
value,
but
if
it's
just
a
baby
step
to
start
touching
this
part
of
the
system,
it
makes
sense
to.
I
feel,
like
I'm
feeling
less
like
we're.
B
Gonna
get
a
huge
amount
of
pushback
because
we
already
tried
to
do
the
feature
once
and
actually
didn't
get
a
massive
amount
of
pushback
and
yeah
we're
being
super
yeah
yeah,
we're
afraid
of
the
pushback.
A
I
totally
got
done
what
you
were
saying
there
right
about
main
arcs,
that
you
have
the
pr
ready
to
go.
For
that
I
mean
I
I
thought
you
were
talking
to
the
short
alias.
My
brain
is
like
half
half
endless.
B
There's
one
other
thing:
the
I
feel
like
the
people
are
more
open
to
landing
a
little
bit
more
functionality
and
core
than
they
than
we
were
fearful
of.
Maybe
when
we
first
started
talking
talking
about
this
two
years
ago,
so
or
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
or
whenever
we
started
talking
about
it,
I
don't
know
I
like
that
baby
step.
It
gets
to
show
us
working
in
that
part
of
the
code
base.
First,
I
don't
know.
A
A
So,
like
that's
kind
of
like
why,
I
feel
like
sure
we
we
can
do
the
baby
step
separate
if
we
want,
but
I
feel
like
it
is
like
a
building
block
like
like
there's,
no
reason
why
it
shouldn't
exist,
and
then
we
use
it
for
parcels.
D
B
That
I,
like
it,
my
temptation,
my
temptation
would
honestly
be
to
do
it
separated
because
I
think
one
of
the
things
people
might
say
to
you
if
you
open
a
pr
with
both,
is
why
don't
you
do
this
separately,
so
just
nip
that
in
the
butt
like
people,
people
love
to
be
like
make
this
just
do
one
thing:
it's
actually
pretty
good
advice
so,
plus
I
think
you'll
get
like
way
less
like
that
will
be
such
an
easy
to
advocate
baby
step
and
removes
a
conf.
B
B
B
Yes,
now,
if
short,
alias,
is
something
that
has
with
value
set.
Will
the
short
option
can
short
options
only
be
boolean.
A
Is
like
there's
no
bullying
at
all
right,
so
they
actually,
we
can
provide
the
the
example.
I
guess
for
that,
but
essentially
the
shorts
become
args
right
and
args
are
defined
or
not,
and
then
they
have
a
value
of
array
of
strings
right.
If,
if
they're
multiples.
B
Gotcha,
so
so
what
would
if,
if
with
value,
is
okay
undefined.
B
What
if
I
did
okay,
so
so,
if
I
do
my
app
dot
js,
let
me
zoom
in
a
little
bit
here
and
I
do
a
b
c
boo.
B
If
a
if
say,
b
has
with
value
true,
will
it
get
the
foo
argument,
as
as
one
of
its
values
in
the.
A
No
is
a
positional.
It
like
two
is
positional
in
that
case,
because
it's
not
double
dash,
so
it's
just
a
single
dash,
so
those
are
all
considered
shorts.
Those
would
be
all
individual
r's,
a
b
and
c.
It
depends.
A
B
A
Right
so
you
could
do
with
value,
so
I
guess
it'll
depend
on
that.
That
being
the
way
we
decide
to
treat
that
yeah,
you
could
do
with
value
and
short.
I
I
would
let's
add
that
to
this
example,
and
let's
like
I,
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
that
right
now:
that's
right!
Oh
yeah,
okay,
I'll
just
put
this
in
the
docs
right.
B
Now
but
I.
C
C
We
could
actually
just
build
this
as
like
a
library
like,
maybe
even
we
just
make
a
repo
that
we
have
access
to
and
we
can
kind
of
like
play
around
with
because
then,
in
addition
to
like.
I
think
these.
These
examples
are
great,
where
it's
like
here's
the
input
and
then
here's
what
that
gives
you
as
a
result,
but
it'll
be
amazing
to
have
some
actual
code
that
we
could
play
around
with
and
then
the
other
sort
of
option
with
that
is.
B
C
C
E
C
Yeah
exactly
you
can
take
just
what
you
have
now
as
a
starting
point
and
then
you
know
like
I'd,
be
willing
to
pitch
in
a
bit
of
time
to
make
some
changes
there
to
bring
this
floor.
In
line
with
what
we've
been
talking
about
cool
nice,
someone
get
a
cool
name
on
npm
for
us
yeah.
B
B
A
Crazy
yeah,
it's
no
js
foundation.
I
believe.
B
I
like
the
shorthand
options
too,
though,
because
because,
like
I
think
for
like
like
like
when
you
do
rm-rf,
those
are
that
you're
setting
recursive
and
file
or
recursive
and
force
sorry,
of
course,
recursive
enforce
yeah,
so
yeah
that
allows
you
to
make
like
rm.
But
then
I'm
just
thinking
of
like
the
get
use
case,
where
sometimes
a
single,
sometimes
a
single
value
character
will
take
a
take
a
value.
But
I
think
there's
enough
expressiveness
in
this
design
that
we
can
cover
those
cases.
A
Yeah-
and
there
might
be
a
case
that
we
just
say
no
too,
like
that
not
supporting,
it-
is
also
like
a
an
option.
Right
like
we
can
say
that
that's
not
supported
right,
like
we
can
get
again
99
of
the
way
there.
I.
D
B
B
D
A
A
I
mean
there's,
it's,
it
sounds
we
could
potentially
make
it
work,
but
I
I
feel,
like
the
complexity,
might
increase
quite
a
bit
based
on.
A
Yeah
cool
I
mean
we
could
potentially
have
it
work
like.
If
we
see
a
single
short
and
we've
said
short
and
with
value,
then
I
think
that's
enough
information
for
us
to
parse
that
does
that
make
sense
like
if
the
short
maps
to
with
value
what's
returned,
when
you
define
short,
is
actually
the
the
alias
like.
So
if
foo
was
mapped
to
f,
then
in
the
args
you
only
get
one.
You
only
get
one
key
back,
which
is
foo
so
yeah.
B
Oh
sorry,
oh
maybe
it's
best.
I
wasn't
talking
about.
Let
other
people
talk.
I
think
that
one's
valuable
I
think,
like
I
I
tend
to
like.
Usually
once
I
become
once
you
become
used
to
the
cli
you
tend
to
use
shorthands
like
like
I
use
npm.
I
I
use
like
git
dash
m
like,
but
do
you
know
what's
nice,
the
design
doesn't
make
that
impossible
in
the
future.
If
we
decide,
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
Out
of
the
gate
like
you
can
just
extend
on
it
to
support
that.
E
B
A
Building
off
of
every
conversation
like
this
is,
this
is
definitely
just
a
consolidation
of
like
ideas
like
I
think,
coming
to
a
head
and
poking
different
people
and
getting
different
people's
input
and
then
just
adding
like
just
changing
this
slightly.
I
think
just
changing
it
slightly.
B
C
A
A
So
I'm
just
copying
and
chat
like
your
example,
then
I
think
that
that
is
possible
like
we
could
be
parsing
your
single
short
like
we
could
be
returning
that.
I
don't
think.
That's
actually
that
hard.
A
But
once
you
see
multiple,
then
that's
when
we're
like:
okay,
no
like
as
soon
as
we
see
multiple
characters,
it's
just
a
heuristic
right.
It's.
C
That's
a
little
weird:
well,
isn't
isn't
the
convention
for
that,
if
you
had,
you
know
like
let's
say,
dash,
rf
and
pretend
f
stands
for
file
or
something
if
you
said,
dash
rf
space
and
the
file
name.
That
positional
argument
is
associated
with
the
last
element
in
that
list.
A
B
Cool
someone
want
to
take
the
action
item
of
publishing
the
polyfill
somewhere.
B
Joe,
would
you
read.
B
What
have
we
done
with
other
polyfills?
What
did
we
do
with
crypto
when
it
was
in
works?
Web
crypto.
B
While
of
excitement
happening
in
my
neighborhood
today,
I
only
just
do
something
like
that:
create
like
a
top
level,
node
or
repo.
That's
called
like
argument.
Parsing.
B
E
C
Darcy,
just
posted
a
reasonable
package
name
choice
in
the
chat
there,
because
this
is
going
to
live
in
the
util
package
right,
so
it
will
be
like
util,
slash
parsers.
So
that
seems
like
a
reasonable
name
choice.
A
Yeah
we
have
the
pkgjs.org
as
well.
Look
like.
We
want
to
be
collaborating
in
a
place
that
isn't,
let's
say
the
node
board.
If
you
want
to
like
create
that
package
there,
maybe
I
don't
know.
I
know
we've
done
that
for
other
stuff,
with
the
package
maintenance
working
group
we've
like
put
some
stuff
there,
yeah,
that's
a
nice.
B
E
And
this
is
part
of
node,
like
we
we'd
spun
this
out
to
have
more
flexibility
than
the
org.
That
makes
sense
to
me
to
not
clutter
node
that
works.
For
me,
I
kind
of
like
it
because
that
person
I
feel
like
we're
poking
the
bear.
If
we
start
like.
Oh,
you
know,
creating
a
repo
and
node.js
and
people
start
poking
around
before
maybe
we're
ready.
A
It's
supposed
to
be
for
experimental
projects
as
far
as
we
were
originally
thinking
about
it,
but
I
think
that
there's
some
stuff
that's
going
to
be
longer
lived.
I
think
that
lives
there
so
yeah.
I
think
it's
better
to
maybe,
if
we're
gonna
have
a
shared
project
somewhere,
like
that's
a
good
place,
yeah.
E
Is
somebody
you
know,
can
somebody
get
things
going
there?
I
don't
think
I
have
privileges
in
pkgjs.
A
B
Nope
all
right
seems
like
we
have
a
bunch
of
exciting
stuff
in
the
works
yeah.
I
will
go.
I'm
gonna
catch
up
on
some
of
my
triage,
but
I'm
gonna,
hopefully
this
afternoon,
make
the
pr
for
just
that
one
place
where
I
forgot
to
remove
experimental,
and
so
that
should
be
ready
for
our
pairing
session
next
week,
great
yeah
and
then
I'll
have
to
figure
out
some
new
work
to
do
because
I've
kind
of
cranked,
through
my
crank
through
the
project
I
had.
B
I'd
actually
be
happy
to
I
like
to
try
to
have
one
node
project
at
going
at
any
given
time
so
yeah
I'd
supposed
to
work
on
that
together.
If
you're
up
for
it,
yes,
that'll
be
the
next.
Maybe
that
could
be
the
next
thing
we
kick
along.
I
think
this
is
working
well,
not
having
a
million
things
on
the
agenda
and
just
kind
of
kicking
them
along
successfully.
I,
like
it
yep
yeah,
we're
small.
B
Oh,
do
you
know
what
did
I
see
so
I
I?
What
I
will
say
is.
I
noticed
I
have
a
colleague
who's.
A
really
good
engineer
he's
been
at
google
for
like
18
years,
so
I
think
he
just
loves
it
there
so
he's
seen
everything
like
he
would
have
seen
the
early
search
engine,
but
he
was
he's
writing
node
for
the
first
time
and-
and
I
noticed
him
pulling
in
fs
extra
just
for
copy
dash
r
and
I'm
like
only
if
only
we'd
gotten
this
a
little
further
along.
B
Yeah
I
try
to
keep
an
eye
open
and
that
one
keeps
coming
up.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
choice,
argument
parsing
for
sure
I
just
hate
working
on
yards
at
this
point.
It's
like
a
it's
a
rat's
nest.
The
code
face
is
terrible.
B
C
B
E
C
Yeah
someone
they
were
trying
to
get
a
working
group
chartered
for
undieci
and
part
of
one
of
the
reasons
they
wanted
to
do.
That
was
to
also
work
on
on
fetch
in
the
future
mateo
and
ethan
arwood.
Who
was
working
on
that
yeah
started
a
conversation
around
that
in
where
would
you
post
about
starting
a
new
working
group,
the
admin
repo
or
the
tsc
repo.
C
But
anyways
it
seems
like
progress
they're,
at
least
you
know,
I
think,
looking
to
move
adichie
into
node
as
like
the
primary
http
client,
and
then
I
think
from
there.
The
next
step
is
yeah,
like
fetch
implementation.
So
it's
good
to
see
yeah
something
happening.
B
One
last
I
just
remembered
one
last
thing:
ian
probably
on
on
your
plate
and
mine,
is
there's
that
pr
to
move
forward
the
deprecation
of
rimroaf,
that's
like
outstanding,
because
I
didn't
figure
it.
They
talked
about
it
at
the
tsc.
I
believe,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
what
the
resolution
was.
C
Yeah,
I
thought
I
thought
the
pr
that
was
open
as
it
stands
was
good
and
then
there
was
like
debate
if
we
should
have
another
pr
to
remove
that
functionality
entirely
in
note,
16
right,
yeah
yeah
I
do
have
to
I.
I
haven't
I'm
not
caught
up
on
that
conversation
either,
though,
as
far
as
I
thought,
the
the
open
pr
was
going
to
be
merged,
as
is,
but
if
it
hasn't
been
then
yeah.
We
should
maybe
poke
someone
cool.