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From YouTube: Node.js User Feedback Initiative Meeting
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You
know
focus
around
European
context,
so
worker
comp
has
some
components
of
it
that
are
unconference
ii
and
I'll
be
doing
a
session.
You
know
very
similar
to
the
one
that
we
did
an
IBM
index.
I
don't
have
any
sort
of
seated
I
was
gonna
use
the
word
plants
I,
don't
have
any
seeded
discussion
members.
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Yet
so,
if
you
know
anybody
that
is
you
know
in
the
Eastern
Austria
area,
or
you
know
how
many
contacts
there
I'd
love,
you
know
to
to
get
some
connections
set
up
ahead
of
time,
so
I'm
not
working
too
hard,
but
I'm
also
fairly
comfortable
sort
of
walking
into
a
room
and
beginning
to
have
those.
You
know
conversations
what.
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Know
right
right,
yeah,
I,
I
think
it's
going,
yeah
I
want
to
tap
into
you
know
some
of
the
European
challenges
you
know
from
from
discussions.
I've
had
with
you
know,
other
members
they're,
you
know
they're
they're,
still
sort
of
management
tensions
that
folks
are
dealing
with
in
you
know
getting
that.
You
know
the
right
to
use
the
technology.
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You
know
technologies
like
that.
So
I
expect
you
know
at
to
be
context,
and
you
know,
since
I've
gone
through
the
process
of
seeing
that
you
know
play
out
in
multiple
different
communities.
Yeah
I
can
share
some
of
the
you
know
my
feedback
of
how
that's
evolved
over
time
and
you
know
other
other
parts
of
the
world
with
other
folks
getting
on
board.
Okay,.
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I
probably
had
three
five
folks
attention:
hey
Wow
yeah,
like
we
would
like
to
do
user
feedback
based
sessions.
I
think
I
encouraged
everyone
to
create
issues
I'm,
not
on
a
percent
sure,
but
you
know
the
reality
is
there
are
not
issues
with
them,
and
you
know
the
only
one
that
I
remember
top
of
mind
was
promises.
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It
theoretically,
very
simple:
it's
the
largest
barrier
to
entry,
and
if
you
do
that,
you
what
I
found
with
all
of
the
stuff
and
it's
hard
for
me
to
start
saying
no
cuz
like
they're
all
past
that
point
so
I'm
still
in
that
mindset.
But
it's
so
once
you
get
start
doing
that
and
introduce
that
to
people
it'll
become
more
easy
over
time.
So.
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Issue
for
folks,
then
make
sure
they
come
in
and
like
look
at
it
and
engage
with
it,
and
then
you
can
like
kind
of
help
manage
that
a
little
bit
or
do
whatever
we
need
to
do.
But
taking
that
first
step
of
creating
the
issue
is
very
helpful
for
to
get
things
going,
because
people
often
don't
feel
like
they
are
familiar
enough
and.
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So,
on
the
premises
front,
like
the
other
groups,
we
have
are
kind
of
focused
around
groups
in
the
ecosystem.
Right
and
I
could
see
promises
being
a
topic
that
any
one
of
those
groups
would
look
at
I'm,
just
trying
to
better
understand
like
what
a
ye.
What
would
the
promises
use
your
feedback
group
be?
Oh.
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Kind
of
do
have
two
approaches
we
have.
We
have
precedent
for
two
approaches
and
we've
just
been
leaning
on
the
later.
The
latter
approach
a
lot
more
recently,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
can.
We
have
a
lot
more
input
from
different
individuals
who
are
in
the
ecosystem
now,
so
it's
actually,
we
can
go.
Do
those
things
more
strongly
now
those
original
approaches
and.
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I
think,
similarly,
I
can
easily
see
that
being
the
case
that
there's
there's
a
bunch
of
places
where
actually
we
have
discussions
about,
you
know
creating
surveys,
and
you
know
I'm
involved
in
a
couple
of
those
where
it's
like.
Okay,
as
soon
as
we
come
up
with
the
questions,
we'll
bring
them
over
to
the
user
feedback
group
to
help
hello.
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Get
that
feedback,
so
there's
you
know
so
and
and
one
of
them
is
around
I-
think
cuz
they're,
the
you
know,
there's
already
a
promise
as
debugging
sort
of
sub
workgroup
being
created
in
the
diagnostic
workgroup
I
think
they're
gonna
they're
gonna.
They
were
talking
about
one
I,
think
modules,
we're
also
talking
about
one.
So
that's
that
I
can
kind
of
understand
in
the
case
of
promises.
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And
that
kind
of
fits
in
with
my
you
know
the
impression
I
got
it's
like
it's
in
this
case.
It's
not
like
there
needs
help
in
terms
of
bringing
people
together
and
getting
the
discussion
going
right.
That
sounds
like
you
know,
Ben
Jenner
was
already
pushing
on
that
and
he's
kind
of,
but
it's
it's
so
the
question
is:
how
can
we
support
that
effort
right
and
certainly
like
helping
to
do
a
survey
is
like
a
I.
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But
you
know
if
we
I
would
really
like
if
we
framed
it
as
we're
gonna
do
one
and
then
you
know
we're
gonna
do
a
session,
we're
gonna
teach
you
how
to
fish,
and
then
you
know
please
run
more
of
these
sessions,
so
you
can
get
more
feedback.
We
will
continue
to
amplify
and
support.
You
know
encouraging.
You
know
either
companies
that
are
actively
using
promises
or
companies
that
are
struggling
or
unhappy
with
promises.
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You
know
to
come
and
engage
in
those
sessions
and
you
know
by
having
you
know
those
sessions
captured,
and
you
know
the
feedback.
Discussions
I,
think
that
will
provide
the
baseline
inputs
that
you
know
the
project
needs
to
be
able
to
get
more
feedback
and
then,
from
there
you
know,
maybe
a
survey.
It
would
be
a
good
tool
but
I
think
there's
probably
some
steps
before
a
survey,
some
some
consensus
building
before
a
survey
to
be
most
effective.
Okay,.
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That
again,
but
it
III
agree
a
hundred
percent
that,
if
may,
if,
if
I,
think
we
should
grab
bench
Myranda
hey,
what
do
you
think
will
help
get
this
off
the
ground
the
best
and
if
and
if
I
was
helping
the
schedule
and
get
those
first
initial
few
meetings
going
is
what
he
thinks
is:
will
help
and
yeah.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
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A
group
of
regular
attendees
who
produce
in
driving
things
forward
so
I
guess
then
we
should,
if
that's,
we
should
probably
schedule
that
one
is
the
next
slot
I,
don't
know
which,
which
date
like
the
July
fifth,
does
that
I
don't
know,
because
when,
when
is
the
holiday
in
the
u.s.
right,
I'm
thinking,
if
it
can
flex
with
that.
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Ninth
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listen.
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You
know
each
each
member,
that
is,
a
cloud
provider,
ask
them
to
share
their
metrics
anonymously
and
as
a
group
as
a
batch,
so
not
actually
publish
each
cloud
providers
metrics,
that's
a
very
anti
trustee
thing
that
I'm
sure
yeah.
We
can't
do
that
so
beyond
that.
If
we
can
publish
the
batch
of
the
batch
of
metrics,
that
will
be
helpful
for
us
actually
understand
real-world
usage,
because
these
are
places
that
no
js'
is
majorly
being
deployed.
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Right
now
we
have
a
number
that
is
MPM
users.
We
have
historically
said
that
is
no
js'
instances
that
is
not
accurate
in
any
way
shape
or
form,
that
is
MPM
users
and
even
like
crunching
notes,
sources
numbers
from
the
the
debian
stuff.
That
is
dramatically
under
representative
of
the
noches
deployments
and
like
I've
gone
through
and
tried
to
do
some
correlation
between
the
notes
or
numbers
and
the
nodejs
public
numbers,
and
you
know.
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Well,
well,
tyranny
is
doing
that.
Let
me
let
me
try
to
see
if
I
can.
You
know
put
my
interpretation
on
this,
so
you
know
with
that
being
an
MDM
number
I,
don't
think
what
we
that
we
need
to.
You
know
that
number
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
be
a
number
that
we
all
right.
You
know.
Yes,
you
know
we
are
I.
Guess
I
should
be
more
direct.
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We
man
that
number
does
represent
a
usage
number
and
III
think
what
Tierney's
trying
to
discover
is,
if
there's
a
better
way
for
us
to
collect
and
represent
that
number.
From
actual
note,
users
or
node
installed
instances
rather
than
NPM
an
instantiation
rights.
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The
problem
it
solves
is
we
don't
actually
have
any
understanding
of
how
note
is
used.
We
understand
the
places
it's
used.
We
don't
understand
at
what
scale
why
we're
like,
for
example,
you
know
we
can
I
was
told
that
the
collaborator
some
it's
a
large
number
of
the
downloads
from
the
public.
No
js'
download
set
like
the
the
no
chase
website
actually
probably
used
for
Jenkins
the
no
Jenkins.
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A
huge
misrepresentation
of
the
data
set
is
like
okay,
these
aren't
real
world
downloads,
and
so
you
know
if
we
can
even
isolate
those
ip's-
and
you
know
you
can't
understand
that.
But
on
top
of
that
there
are
multiple
ways
to
actually
begin
to
go
and
use
nodejs.
So
you're
going
to
be
using
NC,
ICT,
you're
gonna,
be
using
in
dev
you're
gonna,
be
using
staging
and
and
in
production
so
being
able
to
act
and
if
I.
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Write
I
think
once
you
so
once
you
go
beyond
some
high-level
numbers,
you
then
get
into
even
more
trickiness
in
terms
of
like
can-can.
The
cloud
providers
even
collect
that
data
I
I
know
you
know,
there's
been
lots
of
discussions
around.
You
know
we'd
love
to
have
really
good
insight
into
what
our
customers
are
doing,
but
there's
there's.
Obviously
you
know
you
can't
just
go
and
collect
all
their
data
right.
You,
you
gotta
respect
their
privacy
and
what
they're
doing,
and
so
it's
I
won't
be
surprised.
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That's
the
range
of,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
trying
to
get
it
is.
We've
been
tracking
this
metric
of
no
jeaious
instances
that
is
really
MPM
users
and
thus
are
the
place
where
you're
over
your
growth
has
been
discussed
previously,
that
is
not
the
case
anymore.
That
number
is
not
growing
at
double
year
over
year,
just.
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So
that
that
I
would
agree
like
if,
if
it's,
if
data
can
support
that
the
growth
is
still
doubling,
whereas
our
existing
things
haven't,
then
then
I'm
interested
it
that
the
the
raw
number
was
like
yeah
yeah,
it's
a
big
number
and
a
big
number.
If
it
was
nine
and
a
hundred
million
like
if
it's
10
times
then
I
go
hey.
Okay,.
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Context,
we
are
at
a
billion
downloads
between
the
public
data
sets
of
nodejs.
I
was
not
actually
able
to
get
the
total
data
set
from
note
source,
but
we
are
at
a
billion
or
nearly
a
billion
just
from
those
two
public
data
sets.
So
even
that
is
like
okay,
we
need
to.
We
know
there
are
other
sources
out
there.
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That's
fine,
but
we
do
have
to
begin
to
try
to
correlate
the
data
that
we
have
or
the
data
that
we
can
get
and
begin
to
understand
it
and
know
that
there
are
these
caveats,
because
that
is
how
we
built
this
platform,
and
that
is
totally
fine,
but
to
begin
to
collect
this
data
and
understand
it
is
something
that
we
need
to
do.
Terney.
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Great
great
data
point
right,
and
you
know
it's
it's-
you
know
kind
of
nudging,
folks
towards
comfort
their
comfort
zone,
so
things
like
hey.
You
know
that
that
prompt
that
you
accepted
when
you
you
know
did
that
in
chrome,
you're
comfortable
with
that,
so
we're
gonna
do
that
and
for
the
whole
know
just
community.
How
could
we
do
that?
Yeah.
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That,
then,
it
will
automatically
get
added
to
the
agenda
for
that
one
and
whatever
we
would
have
discussed,
because
there's
no
point
creating
the
template
and
all
them
issues
up
to
date.
Enough
and
all
that,
so
that's
that's
what
I'd
suggest
so
Mihai.
If
you
can
just
create
two,
you
know
two
issues:
if
you're
creating
one
create
them,
both
I
already
created
us,
the
July
6th
one,
okay,.