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From YouTube: Node.js User Feedback meeting - Dec 20 2018
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Great
right,
okay,
yeah!
So
in
that
just
Court
and
we'll
I
guess
you
know
Tracy
just
to
manage
expectation
for
you
and
your
team
at
this
point
you
know
I
guess
reprieve
until
after
the
holidays-
right,
let's
just
let's
just
call
it
and
you
know
I,
don't
want
you
to
be
waiting
for
something,
that's
blocked
on
our
end,
to
sort
of
carry
very
poor.
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E
Yeah
I
can
give
an
update
on
that
I've
actually
fallen
behind
on
setting
up
a
date
for
January
for
a
follow-up
action,
but
the
action
item
from
the
the
promised
feedback
and
a
newsletters
thing
is
one
of
those
quick
things
that
we
want
to
achieve
like
having
a
action,
call
to
action.
Sorry
for
the
enterprise
user
group,
so
waiting
on
that
survey,
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
send
it.
So
we
can
make
that
very
first
action
item.
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A
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C
Is
there
any
way
we
can
hear
you
now?
Is
there
anything
we
can
do
on
the
foundation
sign
you
know,
I
know,
we've
always
talked
about
promoting
the
use
of
feedback
meetings
and
stuff
like
that.
Is
there
any
additional
you
know
like?
Should
we
write
a
blog
post
about
this?
Would
it
wouldn't
you
know,
would
it
be
maybe
good
to
work
with
I?
Don't
know
if
augment
you
have
time,
but
just
like
hey
here's,
why
we
do
this?
You
know
ball
type
deal.
Would
that
be
helpful.
A
E
C
A
D
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A
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And
it's
a
good,
you
know
start
off
the
new
year.
Hey,
let's
talk
about.
Maybe
we
can
talk
about
what
we
did
last
year
and
here's
what
you
know.
We
hope
to
do
next
year
and
and
then
it's
a
good
setup
for
the
the
one
that
says:
oh
yeah
and
here's
something
specific
and
hey.
Can
you
get
involved
in
this.
D
A
I
would
recommend
for
you
that
you
know.
Maybe
we
get
the
January
meeting
lined
up
and
scheduled
and
reconvened
and
make
sure
we
have.
You
continue
to
have
the
momentum
with
that
group
think
that
you
know
sort
of
initial
group
there
and
then
and
then
publish
that
so
I'd
like
to
sort
of
throw
out
maybe
the
week
of
the
14th,
so
the
15th
for
the
user
feedback
blog
and
then
you're,
probably
beginning
of
February,
for
the
enterprise.
C
D
C
Basically,
we'll
paste
them
out
we'll
be
like
okay:
let's
do
you
back
bar
first
14
seconds,
beginning
of
February
game
Enterprise
blog
but
published
in
that
order,
and
then
I
have
a
note
as
well
to
talk,
talked
about
future
and
kind
of
what
you're
doing
Achmed
and
then
doing
some
tweets
about
generally,
what
you're
doing
I'll
wait
for
the
tweets
until
we
get
this
blog
post,
because
it'll
give
it
a
little
bit
more
content
and
context,
but
yeah
it'll
be
good
to
start
getting
more
people
involved
in
this.
Do.
D
F
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It's
right,
but
it's
it's
one
of
the
areas.
One
of
the
reasons
why
you
know
the
node
community
itself,
and
hence
a
project
under
no
jess,
is
interested
in
the
package
maintenance
problem
is,
it
does
slow,
no
upgrades
sure.
So
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
to
understand
is
like
okay,
what
causes
it,
what
causes
those
packages
not
to
be
upgraded
and
what
can
that
team
do
to
help
avoid
that
right?
D
So
it's
like
you
know
is:
is
it
that
you
know
the
packages
are
abandoned
and
and
that's
the
problem
or
is
it
that
they
just
don't
happen
fast
enough
or
but
it
is?
It
is
one
of
the
sort
of
key
key
reasons,
at
least
in
my
mind
that
you
know
the
package
ecosystem
is
great,
but
if
there's
issues
that
are
slowing
down
adoption
of
new
versions
of
no
that's
something
we
want
to
have
people
working
on
and
it
fits
with
the
work
that
the
package
maintenance
team
is
focused
on.
D
So
you
know
I
and
that
issue
actually
arose
because
I
was
talking
to
Matteo
about
that
package
maintenance
initiative
before
we,
you
know
we're
ready
to
put
it
a
blog
post
and
all
that-
and
we
said
well
in
the
meantime,
let's
open
this
issue,
because
we'd
had
some
people
talking
on
Twitter
about
problems.
Okay,
and
at
that
point
we
said
hey,
if
you
use
a
feedback,
that's
like
I,
don't
mind
if
we
keep
it
I
just
think
my
opinion
is
that
it
probably
will
get
more
attention
in
the
package.
Maintenance
science
I
got
it.
A
A
With
with
the
concept
transferring
this
discussion,
you
know
so
what
I
think
is
a
great
outcome.
Is
you
know?
Let's
resolve
this
issue,
so
this
issue
was
created.
You
know
in
user
feedback
because
we
needed
a
place
across
the
project
to
figure
out.
You
know
how
to
handle
this
this
need.
Now
we
have
a
resolution
of
that
in
in
package
maintenance
for
a
portion
of
the
problem
right,
so
in
package
maintenance.
A
You
know
we
can
say
here
that
that
you
know,
since
one
of
the
key
issues
that
folks
are
having
you
know
with
upgrading
is
package
maintenance.
We've
created
this
group
package
maintenance
and
we're
going
to
they'll,
be
focusing
on
streamlining
that
part
of
the
problem
and
I
I
think
we're.
You
know
almost
saying
the
same
thing,
but
I
do
think
that
the
you
know
the
concept
is
not
fully
satisfied
of.
You
know
how
do
we
help
the
end
user
community
when
it's
time
to
upgrade
with
that
story?
D
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D
Know
I
think
the
net
result
like
the
I.
The
reason
I
was
thinking
is
that,
like,
if
you
read
these,
you
know
some
of
the
questions
we'd
like
to
flows
to
the
community.
You
know
what
challenges
do
you
have
when
you
upgrade
have
all
the
modules
dependent
been
updated,
which
modules
you
have
problems
with
when
upgrading
other
ones
that
are
preventing
you
from
upgrading
to
10
and
then
are
you
maintain
its
overwhelmed
and
not
able
to
update
your
modules
anymore?
D
Okay,
those
are
questions.
We
are
still
relevant
to
that
sort
of
initiative.
Okay,
but
but
I'm
you
know,
I,
don't
think
it's
really
a
big
deal,
one
way
or
the
other
I
can
eat.
You
know
either
we
can
do
is
if
there's
a
beta
transfer
like
there's
a
transfer
issue
or
we
can
close
and
open
something
new,
so
I'm,
not
gonna
re
too
strong,
great.
A
Yeah
I,
don't
think
you
know
the
just
moving
moving
around
an
issue
in
my
opinion
follows
it
doesn't
follow
the
path
of
least
surprise.
You
know
we're
having
the
discussion
and
user
feedback.
You
know,
let's,
let's
move
that
discussion
on
to
to
debate
nents
and
you
know,
engage
folks
there
but
I'm.
You
know
I
I,
guess
we
have
that
capability
now
and
github,
but
I'm
not
comfortable
with
just
moving
around
it.
So.
D
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A
But
you
know
what
we
worked
out
is
that
Tracy,
our
team
is
going
to.
You
know
help
with
the
logistics.
Once
we
have
the
questions
complete
today,
we
were,
you
know,
planning
on
reviewing
those
promises,
questions
and
kind
of
closing
that
out
to
have
that
off
to
Tracy
and
team
and
yeah
we're
just
going
to
push
that
out
and
at
this
point
we'll
push
it
out
to
to
January
yeah
yeah.
D
E
A
You
know,
honestly,
we
yeah
that
that
needs
to
be
built
out
as
a
whole
program
that
we
can
actually
continue
to
support
and
yeah.
For
me,
the
you
know
carrying
that,
and
you
know
setting
up
all
the
logistics
for
all
the
things
that
go
into
organizing
those
meetups.
You
know
right
now
is
a
non-starter
right.
D
A
A
Except
trying
not
to
volunteer
you
for
a
network
thing,
you
know
that
we
have
this
concept
of
like
how
do
we
pull
together
a
general
user?
You
know
round
out
and
really
present
the
community
with
something
that
you
know
that
stimulates
discussion
and
then
allows
them
to
draw
in
feedback
and
questions.
C
D
It's
it's
different
from
that.
It's
it's
like.
We
started
off
the
general
user
feedback
by
saying,
let's
get
together,
people
who
would
who
are
not
tightly
connected
to
the
community
but
who
are
willing
to
come
and
discuss
regularly
about
issues
that
they
have
using
node
so
trying
to
get
the
end
user
feedback,
and
you
know
we've
we've
branched
into
a
few
ones
where
we
have
a
specific
focus.
You
know
Emmett's
leading
a
specific
focus
on
enterprise
users
and
we
had
us.
We
had
a
specific
focus
on
tooling
issues
right,
but
I
think.
D
A
D
That
was,
you
know,
that's
an
example
of
how
it's
it's
it's
useful.
The
challenge
we
face,
though,
was
that
we
felt
that
our
standard,
you
know
github
Twitter
communication
channels,
wasn't
necessarily
the
best
way
to
get
those
general
users,
so
we
pivoted
to
try
and
do
a
meet-up,
because
we
figured
hey,
there's,
there's
a
structure
that
already
exists:
they're
really
good.
At
reminding
people
to
come
every
month,
it'll
hit
a
broader
audience.
Unfortunately,
the
meetup
community
didn't
decided
they
didn't
like
online
meet
up
in
meetup.
A
D
Ended
up
getting
I,
don't
know
it
was
like
40
or
50
people
signing
up
to
the
mean,
if
not
all
of
them
came
to
the
meeting,
but
you
know
I
think
if
it
had
kept
going,
we
probably
would
have
had
a
larger
group
so
but
now
we're
kind
of
at
the
point
of
like
okay,
how
you
know
we've
tried
a
couple
things.
What's
the
next
thing,
we
should
try
to
do
that
and-
and
it
does
take
some-
you
know
some
effort
because
we
need
to
like
organize.
C
D
E
C
We
just
talk
about
what
we're
probably
useful
is:
okay,
let's
find
like
XYZ
number
of
people
or
get
feedback
from.
You
know:
calm,
calm,
TSC
on
you
know
who
are
the
interesting
projects
using
node,
big
and
small?
Let's
all
gather
them
together
in
a
group
and,
let's
get
you
know,
I,
don't
know
who
maybe
it's
this
group
of
leaders,
or
maybe
it's
TSC,
till
kind
of
like
sit
there,
for
you
know
one
hour
to
probably
two
hours
to
listen
through
all
these
things
to
generate
feedback
based
on
that,
like.
D
It
that's
yeah
that
kind
of
thing
the
mean
another
one
that
comes
to
mind
is
you
know,
as
we
do
a
new
release,
it
could
be
like
a
month
after
you
could
say
anybody,
who's
been
trying
to
upgrade
to
this
new
release
and
has
feedback
for
us.
You
know
come
to
this
session
and
yeah
we'll
have
people
there
to
listen
and
discuss,
and
it's
trying
to
give
a
is
trying
to
find
a
way
that
we
can
get
feedback
that
will
help
inform
what
we
should
be
doing
or
you
know
under
where
people
are
having
problems.
E
Think,
there's
there's
a
couple
of
different
values.
We
can
do
in
different
kind
of
formats.
You
can
drive
maybe
from
different
types
of
meat
DEP,
so
you
can
do
with
the
public,
but
I
think
we're
still
stuck
at
the.
How
do
we
do
this,
regardless
of
what's
the
what's
the
the
format
that
we'll
do
right?
I
mean.
C
C
E
C
I
think
it
should
just
be
like
I,
don't
know,
I
think
it
should
be
something
where,
if
it's
like,
an
whether
it's
another
meeting
or
whether
it's
this
meeting
but
like
extended
so
after
every
release
like
this
specific
user
feedback
meeting,
just
gets
a
lot
bigger
and
we
invite
Slyke
more
people
to
it.
That's.
D
C
Can
send
it
out
into
the
newsletter
again
we
can
ask
SEM,
con-com
and
they'll,
be
like
oh
here's,
this
random
person
that
bugs
me
all
the
time
you
know
they're
just
using
it
randomly
here
and
then
also
opening
it
to
the
public
again,
maybe
asking
people
to
share
so
just
having
a
little
bit
more
of
a
coordinated
marketing
strategy.
It
sounds
like
well.
A
C
D
E
What
Limousin,
sorry
that
I
just
want
to
quickly
jump
in?
We
had
a
quick
discussion.
Last
time
we
talked
about
this,
of
involving
local
meetup
groups
in
different
cities
and
I'm.
Coming
back
to
that
point
now,
because
we
can
also
ask
them
to
be
the
one
to
organize
and
message
and
communicate
like
a
fee,
pick
I
know
five
or
six
different
cities
from
different
countries
and
ask
the
local
JavaScript
and
OGS
organizers
there,
because
there
are
huge
communes
that
are
organized
per
city,
Hey,
Toronto,
Jas,
meetup
group.
Can
you
do
that?
February?
E
You
know
public
official
thing,
here's
the
guidelines
that
we
will
provide.
They
will
be
the
one
to
go
out,
get
people
involved
and
have
a
physical
presence,
they'll,
probably
book
a
space
that
they
may
be
in.
There
probably
have
this
streaming
set
up
ready
for
people.
We
just
have
to
provide
them
the
guidelines.
So
it's
less
effort
for
the
core
team
members
here
to
do
something,
but
also
it's
that
more
direct
call
to
action
with
an
existing
community
and
we
can
rotate
it
across
different
cities
right.
D
C
C
One
thing
that
that
might
be
similar
would
be
hey,
let's,
let's
host
it
online,
but
let's
reach
out
to
you,
know
five
node
whatever
and
we
say
like
okay
in
partnership
with
you
know:
node
meetup,
Toronto,
SF,
blah
blah
blah,
etc,
and
just
have
them
livestream
this
meeting
and
kind
of
like
and
be
there,
and
you
know
they
can
turn
on
their
video
and
stuff
like
that.
So
we
can
see
the
people,
but
at
least
that
way
they
can
like
be
involved.
And
you
know
what
I'm
saying
that's.
E
What
I
was
kind
of
pointing
to
like?
We
still
do
what
we
do,
but
let
other
meetups
worry
about
a
general
public
call
to
action,
meaning
if
they
already
have
a
community.
They
already
have
a
thing:
they
just
let
them
do
it
and
say:
hey
we're
streaming.
The
user
feedback-
and
you
know
sft
as
a
JavaScript
group
and
we're
gonna,
allow
some
sort
of
interaction
of
some
yeah.
D
C
Yeah
so
that
we
actually
did
this
with
you
know:
ember
meetups
were
so
small,
not
in
larger
cities,
and
so
I
would
just
do
like
East
Coast
and
be
like.
Okay.
All
five
meetups
are
doing
this
exactly
at
the
same
time,
and
we
kick
off
into
one
place.
Do
like
a
kick
off
talk
with
a
bigger
person
or
stream
that
first
talk
and
then
then
the
meetup
can
go
like
into
their
own
purse.
D
And
it's,
we
don't
want
people
watching,
we
want
people
talking
and,
and
it's
so
like
if
it's
a
if
it's
at
a
meet-up,
you
want,
we
want
to
make
sure,
there's
a
microphone
where
people
can
easily
get
up
and
and
talk
into
it.
Otherwise,
you
know
I
prefer
people
at
their
desks
with
microphones
where
they
can
easily
talk
right.
C
It
might
be
better
that
way
because
I'm
trying
to
think
as
well
like
okay,
you
know
you
do
a
pop
session.
Let's
say
online
with
these
five
mean
ups,
and
then
you
give
them
like
a
kind
of
guidelines,
as
Ocwen
was
saying
to
say
like
okay,
well,
you
know
here
facilitate
this
conversation.
You
know,
but
then,
like
nobody
from
you
know,
the
user,
feedback
or
TSC
is
kind
of
participating
in
that,
and
then
they
get
feedback
later
like.
That
could
be
another
way
of
doing
it.
I,
like.
D
C
D
C
A
So
you
know
I'd
like
to
propose
that
you
know
I
really
like
engaging
our
meetup
groups
and
seeing
how
they
can
participate.
I
think
we
still
need
to
basically
tease
out
our
format
right
and
then
once
we
have
the
format
we
can
distribute
it.
So
you
know
if
we
go
back
to
that,
you
know
moment
in
time
a
purpose
which
is
engaging
groups
like
the
enterprise
group
and,
like
our
active
groups,
the
the
package
maintenance
group
and
that
could
be
a
core
contingent.
A
We
plan
now
for
April
and
the
twelve
release
to
do
this
user
feedback
session
on
on
twelve.
You
know
it
seems
like
we
got.
You
know
nice
nice
amount
of
lead
time.
We
can
promote
it.
We
can,
you
know,
potentially
draw
in
some
content,
so
Tracy
won
one
of
the
key
things
that
you
know.
My
conjecture
in
you
know.
Transition
this
to
a
meetup
format.
C
If
we
do
this
at
meetups,
is
it
gonna
accomplish
like
the
greater
goal
like
you're
looking
for
I
mean?
What
are
you
looking
for
right?
Like?
Are
you
looking
for
okay,
a
handful
of
people
in
you
know
San
Francisco,
New
York.
You
know
Des
Moines
whatever
to
give
feedback
on
a
specific
release,
or
are
you
looking
for
hey?
Let's
just
get
everyone
globally
to
be
able
to
give
feedback
in
a
form
that
is
a
little
bit
more
open
to
everybody,
but.
D
Then
that
purpose
is
is
to
get
a
more
general.
You
know,
we've
got
a
more
tight
connection
now
with
some
Enterprise
company,
so
we
can
sort
of
you
know,
but
from
the
the
general,
the
general
groups
using
node
I
think
we
could
do
with
a
better
understanding
of
you
know.
What
is
it
that
they're
loving
and
what
is
it
they're
that
they're
hating.
A
And
it's
really,
you
know
what
we're
looking
for
is
you
know
unknown?
It's
like.
We
don't
know
that
what
we're
looking
for,
but
we're
explicitly
wanting
to
put
ourselves
out
there
and
provide
a
forum
for
you
know,
folks,
where
they
know
they.
If
they're
having
issues,
they
can
go
connect
with
your
peers
and
humans.
C
D
C
C
Okay,
so
like
basically,
then
then
it's
really
getting
you
know
whoever
members
to
commit
to
like
okay,
I'm
gonna
do
one
in
my
city
and
then
maybe
we
do
it
like
what
you
know
in
the
month
of
April
and
we
do
like
12
of
them
and
I
mean
TSC.
Kumkum
members
are
everywhere,
so
we
can
just
be
like
join
the
local
user
feedback,
whatever
we're
doing
this
in
April.
Okay,
here
are
all
the
ones
that
you
can
attend.
It's
in
your
city,
kind
of
like
that
right.
D
I'm
not
sure
we'll
get
all
the
TLC
and
members
volunteering,
but
but
I
think
it's
it's
like
if
we
could
figure
it.
If
we
think
that's
a
good
format
and
then
we
have
a
you
know
we
could
we
could
at
least
test
it
out
and
a
few
of
them
like
I,
think
we
should.
Probably
you
know
our
team
should
probably
be
involved
in
it
in
the
first
couple,
the
user
feedback
team
to
say:
okay,
we
did
this,
it
didn't
work
or
it
did
work
and
then
once.
E
But
it
just
seems
that
people
don't
know
or
don't
have
the
visibility
into
it
so
by
virtue
of
doing
great,
these
kind
of
connection
with
meetups
or
humans
and
different
cities,
and
so
on
we're
basically
doing
the
orchestration
of
the
inbound
kind
of
thoughts,
questions,
feedback
and
so
sort
of
thing.
So
maybe
it's
just
the
statement
is
you
know
connecting
with
the
physical
communities
or
the
communities
that
have
physical
meetups?
Let's
say
in
order
to
enlighten
and
direct
the
traffic
of
questions
and
feedback
to
the
right
place,
because
the
right
places
exist.
It's
not
like.
C
Well,
basically
have
like
a
one-page
sheet
of
like
here's
all
things
we,
you
know
we
could,
if
we
all
had
time,
also
just
provide
a
PowerPoint
to
kind
of
be
like
okay,
here's
the
talking
points,
here's
the
things
we
want
to
talk
about.
You
know
that
way.
It's
not
like!
Oh
wow,
this
person
in
New
York
facilitated
this
completely
differently
than
this
person
in
San
Francisco.
Yes,.
E
C
E
Did
you
all
know
we
have
a
package
maintenance
working
group?
Hey
did
you
know
we
have
this
hey
by
the
way,
here's
all
the
projects
that
are
ongoing.
Here's
all
the
committees
are
ongoing.
Here's
how
he
can
contribute
here's,
how
you
can
be
there,
but
being
that
physical
connection
in
smaller
context
in
a
more
intimate
context,
is
much
more
easier
to
get
that
interaction
and
call
to
action
than
say
the
nodejs
conference,
or
some
compliment
happens
in
a
certain
city
that
everybody
who
can
travel
can
attend.
But
local
people
are
not
aware.
Yeah,
oh
yeah,.
D
So
I
still
think
we'd
want
to
throw
open
like
I
can
see
that
being
a
really
good,
intro
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
throw
up
and
then
to
either
the
you
know
the
abstract.
Okay,
so
tell
me
about
what
your
problems
are.
So
we
can
understand
them
and
I
also
think
that
you
know
the
general
one
is
good
just
to
throw
out
there,
because
you
might
get
the
havea
unknowns
if
we
can
have
some
specific
focus
as
well.
D
So,
for
example,
I
I,
wouldn't
do
it
right
after
12
has
come
out,
but
I'd
wait
a
month
or
so,
and
then
you
could
have
specific
questions.
If
you're
doing
it
say
a
month
after
12
has
come
out
where
you
could
say,
do
you
have
any
specific
issues
with
12?
Is
there
anything
holding
you
back
from
upgrading
to
12
and
and
there's
probably
other
events
like
that
that
we
can,
you
know,
use
and
some
of
the
things
we're
talking
about
like
if
we're
gonna
do
a
survey
on
on
promises?
D
E
D
E
Then
say
great:
what
is
your
feedback
on
12
uh-huh,
uh-huh
cool?
Oh,
you
had
a
problem
great
here
go
here
here
and
type
it
there
or
go
here
and
message
it
there
or
do
this
here
in
order
for
that
information
to
be
meaningful.
Otherwise,
there
everybody
who
might
be
attending
let's
say
I
meet
up,
are
gonna,
be
expecting
that
person
to
follow
through
or
delivers
yeah.
E
D
A
C
Like
sure
fine
Amen
I
mean
maybe
I
guess
I
like
let's
say
I'm,
you
know,
I
mean
when
I
talk
about
rxjs
and
I
say
like
come
contribute.
You
know,
out
of
a
you
know.
500
people
maybe
like
three
will
actually
follow
up
on
that
right.
So
I
think
that,
like
I
mean
yeah
I
think
what
we
should
do
is
somehow
make
it
easier
like
set
up
us
set
up
a
survey
or
even
I
mean
I'll.
D
D
D
C
G
D
E
E
I
would
rather
do
these
kind
of
activities
and
do
these
efforts
and
and
only
get
like
the
1%
of
people
who
would
really
step
up
and
get
above
and
beyond,
because
those
would
eventually
have
a
higher
return
on
value.
Let's
say
then
doing
a
lot
of
upfront
work
and
and
getting
you
know,
I,
don't
want
to
say
mediocre,
but
kind
of
medium
level,
of
of
impact
or
return
on
investments.
Let's
say
right.
E
A
D
C
D
C
D
C
E
C
Anyways,
okay,
well,
anyways,
I'll,
think
about
this
a
little
bit
more
and
then
get
things
going.
I
mean
again:
it's
not
like.
We
can't
just
do
it.
You
know
Dan,
we
can
do
it
in
SF.
Obviously
we
can
do
it
and
I
mean
I'm
sure
we
all
know
our
local
meetups,
oh
and
I
asked
Adam
about
the
list
of
meet
ups,
but
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
for
people
and
then
that
the
Israel
you'd
meet
up
as
well
as
probably
interested
I.