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A
Here
Cabell
here,
spizz
present
Miller.
Here
we
have
a
quorum
all.
B
Right
today
now
we
need
approval
of
the
agenda,
so
moved
moved
by
commissioner
Smith
second
by
commissioner
Markham,
hey
you're,
watching
Georgia,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
all
right,
guys
have
it.
Now
we
have
public
comment
and
you're
from
the
public
want
to
address
the
committee.
B
We'll
give
you
three
minutes,
anyone
from
the
public
anyone
anyone
all
right,
we'll
call
public
comment,
close
first
public
comment:
now
we
have
the
regular
agenda.
First
agenda
item
we
have
is
active
relevant
resolution,
creating
our
creation
of
Oakland,
County,
Transit
Division
I
need
a
move
by
commissioner
Cavell
seconded
by
Mr
Charles.
B
C
C
So
in
November
after
you
all
acted
in
August
to
put
on
the
ballot
a
0.95
millage
for
county-wide
transit
services,
which
was
approved
by
the
voters
of
Oakland,
County,
Brett
and
I,
have
been
working
in
coordination
with
chairman
Woodward
on
some
activities
to
kind
of
get
that
get
that
moving.
This
is
this
resolution
is
really
important
to
us,
because
what
it
does
is.
It
creates
a
small
division
within
Economic
Development,
which
will
serve
as
the
Hub
of
our
expertise
on
Transit
issues.
C
F
G
C
Similar
to
that
right
now,
it
is
a
it's
envisioned
in
setup
in
this
area
in
this
resolution,
as
a
three-person
team,
it'll
work
in
parallel
to
a
Brett's
division,
because
they
have
some
expertise
in
this
area.
Brett,
as
you
may
know,
is
my
colleague
on
the
smart
board.
So
we've
been
working
on
these
Transit
issues,
but
this
will
allow
us
to
hire
a
manager
and
then
two
planners
that
will
help
over
time
create
the
county-wide
system
that
we
that
we
all
envision.
C
But
since
the
election
you
know
we
wanted
to
kind
of
get
started
right
away
because,
as
you
know,
the
millage
kind
of
changes,
the
framework
for
how
Transit
is
approached
in
County
in
the
past
Oakland
County
public
transit
authority
was
the
entity
that
had
the
contract
with
smart
to
provide
services
in
those
opt-in
communities.
Now
that
we
have
a
county-wide
system,
the
county
will
be
the
entities
that
has
the
contracts
with
the
service
providers.
C
So
we
moved
immediately
to
set
up
meetings
with
all
of
those
providers
to
give
them
a
sense
of
what
we're
going
to
be
the
next
steps.
So
we've
met
with
the
oldest
persons
commission,
with
the
Western
Oakland
Transit
Authority,
with
Northern
Oakland
transit
authority
and
then
with
Smart
in
individual
meetings
and
what
we've
said
to
them.
Is
you
know
that
what
we
are
looking
to
do
is
put
in
place
an
initial
contract?
Our
goal
is
to
have
for
the
board's
consideration
at
your
January
meeting
contracts
with
each
of
these
providers.
C
C
So,
let's
say
you
know:
without
the
restrictions
of
woda
only
serving
certain
communities,
they
may
be
able
to
easily
expand
to
Milford
or
Commerce
or
other
areas
where
they
pick
up
people
and
where
they
drop
them
off
so
they're
thinking
through
you
know
what
would
be
the
possibilities
in
each
of
the
areas
the
same
with
NoDa
you
know:
could
they
expand
West
a
little
bit
and
help
to
service
those
areas?
It's
a
little
bit
easier
for
them
to
expand
if
they
can
get
the
buses.
C
So
you
have
to
we
all
kind
of
have
to
understand
that
a
lot
of
the
expansion
is
about
buses
and
drivers,
so
for
the
local
providers,
they
need
the
equipment,
but
drivers
are
a
little
easier
for
them
because
they
don't
have
to
have
CDLs
for
a
smart.
Not
only
did
they
need
the
equipment,
but
they
also
need
drivers,
which
has
been
a
long-standing
national
issue
for
for
all
transit
authorities.
So
all
of
those
entities
are
currently
working
on
getting
back
to
us
about
what
they
can
provide
in
that
first
year.
C
We
have
told
them
that,
after
that,
you
know,
we'll
spend
the
first
year
even
developing
out
even
more
plans
for
expansion.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
time
it
takes
to
get
buses
and
to
hire
people
and
that
the
contracts
could
look
different
in
years.
Two
three
four
and
on
way
onward
for
the
for
the
10
years.
We
also
met
separately
with
the
RTA
to
understand
their
role.
As
the
you
know,
the
regional
planning
entity
and
also
the
work
that
they
can
do
to
help
help
us
with
grants.
C
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
leverage
the
money
coming
in
from
the
the
county
millage
to
bring
down
more
federal
or
state
funds,
and
so
they
have
been
a
good
partner.
And
then
yesterday
we
had
a
meeting
with
all
of
the
in
entities
together:
OPC
woda,
node,
smart
and
the
RTA
to
talk
about
some
common
issues,
because
what
was
clear
in
the
individual
meetings
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
common
issues,
common
issues
like
training
that
they
could
potentially
do
together
common
issues
like
technology.
C
You
know
they
all
want
to
kind
of
get
on
the
same
platform
so
that
when
they're
they're,
when
someone
calls
one
entity,
they
can
schedule
it
with
another
entity.
You
know
so
we
had
a
really
good
two-hour
meeting
in
terms
of
some
of
the
common
issues.
Yesterday,
we're
going
to
have
a
follow-up
meeting
focused
specifically
on
grants.
That's
another
area
where
maybe
one
entity
can
be
the
grant.
C
You
know
the
person
that
solicits
the
grant
so
right
now
you
have
all
these
separate
entities
going
out
there
and
doing
their
their
best
effort
to
get
their
own
individual
grants.
So
so,
really
a
lot
of
exciting.
You
know
a
lot
of
exciting
work
going
on.
We
also
plan
to
go
out
and
have
a
meeting
that
commissioner
Markham
is
helping
us
organize
in
Novi
to
give
that
Community
a
sense
of
next
steps.
C
We're
going
to
Brett
and
I
are
going
to
convene
the
the
former
smart
communities
just
so
that
they
have
a
sense
of
what
you
know.
This
change
will
be
so
that
they're
not
wondering
and
then
of
course,
we'd
like
to
have
conversations
you
know
with
the
Springfields
and
The
Hollies
and
the
other
communities
so
that
they
don't
feel
like
so
they
feel
like
they
know,
what's
going
on
before
the
notas
or
the
voters
might
reach
out
to
them.
C
It
may
be
that
we
have
to
come
up
with
an
additional
solution
for
some
of
those
communities,
but
Brad
and
I
are
doing
our
best
to
hold
down
the
fort
and
get
keep
the
ball
moving
forward
with
with
chairman
Woodward's
assistance
until
we
can
get
some
staff
help.
So
we
very
much
appreciate
you
scheduling
this
meeting
special
meeting
before
the
board
meeting
tomorrow
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
get
it
posted
right
away
and
hopefully
have
some
expertise
to
assist
us
all
right.
B
F
Yeah
you're
up,
thank
you,
Mr
chair,
thank
you,
Hillary
and
Brett
for
coming
out
today
and
I
appreciate
all
the
leg.
Work.
You've
done
so
far,
just
a
couple,
quick
questions
and
it
might
turn
into
longer
questions
if
you've
known
me
well
enough,
I
understand
the
need
for
setting
up
a
group,
but
why
three
people
what
what's
driving
the
need
for
three
people
and
then
my
second
question,
which
you
could
probably
answer
at
same
time,
I
believe
you're
asking
for
a
manager.
Why
manager
versus
a
supervisor?
E
Sure
I
think
they,
the
level
of
responsibility
of
this
position
you
know
not
being
solely
but
largely
responsible
for
the
66
million,
is
manager
level
responsibility.
This
staff
is
rather
small.
We
think
that's
enough
positions
initially
to
get
this
thing
rolling.
We
want
to
use
the
first
year
as
any
value
evaluation
here
on
that
Staffing
level,
and
it
may
be
that
we
need
another
position,
but
three
seems
reasonable.
To
start,
we
talked
with
fiscal
Services.
A
lot
of
the
functions
will
be
handled
by
Equalization
and
fiscal
Services,
the
financial
end
of
it.
F
Maybe
that's
where
I'm,
not
understanding
is
the
overall
scope
of
these
repositions
is
I'm
trying
to
walk
myself
through
it,
you
know
being
in
the
private
sector,
understanding
if
we
start
a
new
group,
a
new
division.
How
do
we
normally
walk
through
it
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
go
through
that
same
same
type
of
steps,
I'm
trying
to
understand
will
will
we
have
enough?
Will
there
be
enough
there
to
keep
three
people
busy
eight
hours
a
day
five
days
a
week?
F
You
know
knowing
what
I
know
and
maybe
I'm
completely
off
base,
which
is
always
possible
of
getting
to
the
steps
because
we're
doing
contracts
with
smart,
NoDa,
woda
OPC,
you
know,
are
we
developing
routes?
Are
we
going
Beyond?
Are
we
going
to
just
say,
okay,
here's
the
entities
we're
dealing
with
me.
We
may
create
some
more
in
different
areas
or
somebody
else
may
create
some
more.
We
might
partner
with
them
too,
but
what
is
I
mean?
F
C
We
definitely
we
definitely
have
gone
through
the
same
thought.
Process
and
I
know
that
the
chairman
has
and
I
know
that
the
county
executive
has,
because
you
could
look
at
this
picture
and
say
well
you're,
just
going
to
contract
with
these
folks
and
they're
going
to
do
it,
but
I
have
to
say
like
having
gone
through
the
you
know
the
intensity
of
the
last
three
weeks.
C
There
is
really
a
lot
of
strategy
behind
what
we
have
to
do
and
we
have
to
be
the
end,
the
driver
behind
how
we
grapple
with
the
expansion
of
services
and
how
we
grapple
with
making
this
a
seamless
system.
So
you
know
we
just
unless
you
want
to
just
put
Smart
in
charge
and
say
to
Smart,
you
know
we'll
Tran,
we'll
we'll
transfer
all
the
money
to
you.
C
You
hire
the
outside
entity
to
do
the
planning
you
figure
out
what
the
county-wide
strategy
is,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
that,
because
these
local
entities
have
a
a
real
sense
of
the
fabric
of
the
of
the
areas
that
they
serve
and
I.
H
C
Number
of
you
I
mean
it
is
you
are
bringing
together.
You
know
high
level
people
high-level,
Community
people
and
you're
driving
a
vision
for
transit
for
10
years.
In
addition
to
the
finances,
the
Contracting,
the
federal
policy,
the
federal
grants
it
it
is
I,
don't
have
any
question
that
it
is
a
high
level
position
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it
command
that
we
can
command
the
type
of
person
that
we
really
need
to
do
this
work.
C
So
if
it
was
in
any
any
lower
level
of
a
staffer
I,
just
don't
think
you
get
the
type
of
person
we
need
at
a
supervisor
or
at
a
different
level
in
terms
of
the
planners.
We
want
to
be
kind
of
really
active
and
we
kept
them
modeled
after
the
planners
in
Brett's
division,
but
we
have
them.
We
have
the
ability
to
focus
them
on
certain
areas
like
technology
or
planning
or
this.
So
you
know
they're
going
to
kind
of
be
keeping
the
buses.
E
G
E
B
Right
then,
we
have
commissioner
Charles
commissioner
Cavallo
and
then
commission
chair
Woodward.
A
G
A
I
think
I
think
you
may
have
answered
my
question,
but
I
was
just
looking
at
the
item
summary
sheet
and
it
says
to
create
to
create
to
create
to
create
so
the
middle
to
create,
says
a
new
Merit
flsa
exempt
classification
probably
need
some
understanding
on
what
flsa
is
and
then
right
below
there.
It
says
to
create
a
full-time
e,
full-time
employee.
So
is
it
it
is
one
manager.
Can
you
just
explain
why
it's
there
twice
and
and
different
explanations
of
it.
H
Flsa
has
to
do
with
the
fair
labor
standards
act
to
determine
whether
they're
exempt
or
non-exempt,
so
that's
just
indicating
that
they
will
be
exempt
and
also
from
my
previous
HR
experience,
I
always
list
the
division.
The
units,
a
classification,
has
to
be
brought
before
to
the
board
when
they're
creating
a
new
classification
as
well
as
creating
or
deleting
positions.
So
this
is
the
creation
of
a
division,
a
unit,
a
new
classification
position
for
manager
and
two
positions
for
planner
principles:
okay,.
G
G
Oh,
this
is
kind
of
do
your
thing
about
Y3
I
was
going
to
say
you
know
our
community
has
over
a
million
people
in
it,
and
so
just
simple
coordination
of
creating
a
new
division
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
to
have
at
least
three
so
I
hope
that
framing
helps
in
our
thinking.
But
one
question
I
did
have
was
about
the
the
consulting
fee
or
having
a
Consulting
fund
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
because
we
we
want
to
be
effective
and
efficient
in
launching
this
right.
G
You
want
to
build
a
strong
Foundation.
We
want
to
opt
for
being
effective
and
being
aware
of
the
fact
that
we're
growing
something
that
I
don't
think
any
of
us
have
done
right.
We've
planned
it.
We've
thought
about
it.
We
have
other
examples
of
other
places
to
do
it
and
I
know
we
had
a
Transit
consultant.
That
was
ninety
thousand
dollars,
so
it
maybe
in
the
inverse
of
what
commissioner
Spitz
was
asking,
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
enough
to
let
you
be
nimble
enough
to
do
this.
That's
appropriately,
okay,
yeah,
because
one.
C
I
B
Great,
that's
all
right,
chairman
commission,
yeah.
D
D
Now,
albeit
we
don't
run
the
buses,
but
in
terms
of
the
planning
and
the
planning
expertise
which
is
I
mean
if
you
talk
to
some
of
our
smaller
Transit
agencies
and
in
time-
and
we
talked
about
having
an
ad
hoc
Transit
committee,
because
I
think
it's
really
I-
think
people
who
aren't
aware
of
what
is
happening
and
delivering
the
the
talent
and
what's
been
able
to
be
developed
with
I
mean
I
I,
would
say
ragtag
budgets,
because
in
some
cases
they
weren't
able
to
draw
down
additional
dollars
that,
hopefully,
all
together,
that
we
can.
D
D
Securing
the
funding
and
resources,
just
on
our
end
to
I,
mean
to
I
mean
make
sure
that
we
have
the
structures
in
place
for
the
oversight,
the
reporting,
tracking,
ridership
and
all
those
types
of
things
the
Strategic
Investments
over
the
course
the
next
decade
in
technology
facilities,
maintenance
of
those
vehicles
and
everything.
And
how
much
is
that
housed
together?
D
However,
how
much
do
individuals
take
ownership
of
that
I
mean
we
are
in
some
cases,
breaking
the
mold
and
I
mean
I,
think
laying
out
a
new
model
on
how
to
actually
deliver
this
in
a
reasonable
way,
and
so
one
thing
working
with
Administration.
Why
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
some
money
to
support
Professional
Service
on
our
end,
to
the
extent
that
its
partnership
with
the
community
engagement
process
that
having
the
technical
expertise
to
help
inform
the
policy
making
that
we
have
to
work
collaboratively?
D
This
is
lean,
I
mean
I,
think
some
would
say,
maybe
even
too
lean,
but
what
I've
been
I
mean
confident
about,
like
the
I
mean
there's
a
yesterday's
meeting.
I
think
this
was
a
testament.
I
mean
a
room
full
of
people
that
everyone
in
that
room
was
not
all
on
board
with
us,
but
everyone
in
that
meeting
was
having
the
conversation
like.
How
are
we
going
to
move
forward
to
make
Transit
better
for
everybody
and
I
think
this
these
technical
expertise?
D
We,
we
told
the
public-
and
we
plan
to
do
this-
that
this
is
an
Oakland
County
solution
to
make
Transit
better.
Here
and
this
positions
us
to
help
make
it
to
ensure
that
that
happens.
Certainly,
we
will
welcome
the
help
of
getting
staff
support.
The
RTA
can
provide
I
know
smarts
I
mean
talked
about
bringing
out
some
technical
expertise.
D
Some
of
these
things
are
going
to
happen.
Fat,
maybe
faster
than
others.
It's.
It
is
an
audacious
Endeavor
that
I'm
hopeful
and
excited
about
a
year
from
now
to
be
able
to
present
like
the
progress
that
we've
made
in
a
pretty
short
period
of
time,.
B
I
I
mean
I
realize
today
is
not
the
day
we're
going
to
apply
for
Grants,
but
you
know:
I
was
at
a
meeting
at
semcog
two
weeks
ago,
where
we
were
reviewing
25
million
dollars
in
federal
grants
to
12
local
agencies
for
carbon
reduction,
and
it
was
basically
to
pay
for
electric
buses
and
charging
stations
at
the
you
know,
Terminals,
and
that
sort
of
thing
that's
going
to
be
to
me.
I
That's
a
huge
piece
of
this
there's
money
just
laying
out
there
in
the
sky
waiting
for
us
to
draw
it
down
and
where
is
that
going
to
reside?
Is
that
going
to
be
something
that
these
three
people
are
going
to
do
or
is
that
something
we're
gonna
do
but
I
definitely
think
it's
something
that
should
be
from
the
get-go
part
of
the
conversation,
because
there's
money
out
there
that
we
are
not
bringing
to
Oakland
County
right
now
that
we
should
be
and
woda
and
NoDa
each
got
grants
for
some
buses.
I
C
That
was
the
CA
about
and
what
we
so
yesterday
we
all
agreed
that
we
would
have
a
separate
conversation
with
all
the
providers
and
the
RTA
and
the
RTA
is
kind
of
organizing
that
agenda.
So
there's
the
whole
because
we
don't
really
want
now.
You
know
Kim
and
Lynn
and
Renee
to
keep
doing
what
they're
doing
out
there
trying
to
apply
for
Grants,
which
the
rtas
helped
them
with.
We
want
to
see
if
it
makes
sense
to
have
a
kind
of
a
coordinated
effort.
C
So
yes,
we.
We
definitely
see
that
as
a
major
like
a
major
Focus
area
of
this
office.
C
So
that's
great,
but
as
we
increase
operations,
then
you
know
we're
going
to
want
to
drown
down
more
money
from
that
fund
and,
unfortunately,
there's
a
cap
of
that
funding.
So
everyone
around
the
state's
kind
of
getting
nervous,
because
you
know
they
see
Oakland
County
expanding
Transit
and
you
know,
then
maybe
everyone
will
get
less.
So
we
have
to
work
at
this
as
a
number
of
different
angles,
but
you
know
folks
will
you're
exactly
right
and
you
know
they'll
tell
you
that
there
are
some
federal
grants.
C
The
capital
Improvement
grant,
for
example,
Grand
Rapids
has
two
of
them.
You
know
this
region
has
zero
of
them
because
we've
never
come
together
and
said.
You
know
we
all
support
this.
So
we
have
to
you
know
and-
and
someone
said
yesterday-
that
the
f
ta
would
probably
fall
off
their
chair
if
they
saw
a
submission.
You
know
from
this
area
like
they
would
welcome
it.
So
we
have
that's
a
top
priority.
Good.
G
I,
commissioner
Markham,
you
made
me
think
of
this
about
the
cooperation
collaboration
I
when
I
read
this
last
night.
I
just
glossed
over
that,
and
so
that's
why
I
didn't
understand
the
answer
to
the
question
about
the
Consulting.
G
G
Perhaps
because
I
don't
know,
and
maybe
we
talk
offline,
but
it
feels
like
if
we're
setting
something
up
and
we're
standing
it
up.
I
was
just
presuming
because
I
didn't
read
this
close
enough.
That
hundred
thousand
dollars
was
going
to
go
to
you
Brett
that
who's
gonna
be
in
your
office
to
figure
it
out.
So
would
love
guidance
again:
you're
offline
yeah.
D
Okay,
next
time,
I'll
push
the
button.
Yeah
I
mean.
Let
me
speak
to
that.
I
mean
I,
think
that
from
a
governing
body
and
a
policy
making
body
that
we
also
need
expertise
to
I
mean
to
work
with
the
administration,
and
so
I
mean
I
mean
on
this
and
frankly,
a
lot
of
other
things
and
we
haven't
we've
been
working,
I
mean
many
of
you've
talked
to
Neil
directly
I
mean
that
that
was
very
instrumental
in
helping
structure.
This
proposal
and
work
with
us
I
mean
long
term.
D
I
I,
don't
know
what
that
mean.
That
looks
like,
but
I
mean
this,
especially
this
term
I'll
tell
you
this
upcoming
term
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
things.
I
mean
the
development
and
the
structure
for
this,
and
then,
where
how
this
stands
up
two
years
Beyond
there
I
mean
I
think
we
can
always
have
a
conversation,
but
I
think
it's
app
I,
don't
look
as
duplicative
by
any
means.
D
I
mean
I
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
demonstration
of
close
collaboration
between
the
legislative
branch
and
the
executive
branch
to
move
something
this
big
to
have
I
mean
that
much
impact,
and
so
to
date,
I
mean
it
has
I
mean
I,
mean
I,
know,
Neil
and
Brett
have
I
mean
talked
I
mean
we're
going
to
continue
to
I
mean
work
in
this
partnership.
D
What
that
looks
long
term
absent
resources
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
whatever
we
need
to
do,
and
our
due
diligence
to
help
inform
policy
as
a
policy
making
body
we've
got
I
mean
we
have
to
figure
that
out
one
way
and
we
don't
have
the
transit
expertise
on
our
staff
to
be
able
to
step
in
there
immediately
do
I
think
this
is
something
that's
long-term,
probably
not
probably
not
necessary,
especially
once
it
gets
up
to
I
mean
a
level.
Is
it
one
thing?
D
I
I'll,
just
and
and
Hillary
can
probably
put
this
out
there
a
little
bit
more.
The
campaign
talking
about
this
educating
the
public
about
what
this
proposal
was
achieved,
something
that
I
wasn't
even
thinking
about
brought
attention
to
woda
and
woda's
calls
I
mean
because
I
mean
what
is
out
there,
advertising.
What
is
calls
like
Spike,
like
everyone's
like
what
this
exists
I
mean
even
where
it
exists
in
the
areas
this
exists.
D
Similarly
to
the
other,
Transit
agencies,
and
so
I
think
that
I
mean
communication.
Education,
I
mean
long
term,
I
think
for
people
who
don't
use
something
to
con
I
mean
to
move
them
to
a
place
that
they'll
consider
using
have
access.
D
There's
a
group
of
people
who
need
it
because
there's
no
other
options
and
then
there's
others
that
I
think
that
trying
to
help
their
family
members
that
didn't
even
know
it
existed
and
I've
I've
had
individual
conversations
with
residents
around
the
county
around
this,
and
so
maybe
that
takes
on
a
different
form,
but
I
mean,
as
we
start
out
as
we
try
to
prop.
This
I
mean
technical
expertise
on
on
staff
to
help
support
this,
as
well
as
make
sure
that
we
have
the
resources
necessary
to
evaluate
four
contracts.
D
Out
of
the
gate
at
the
top
of
the
year
and
in
all
likelihood
knock
on
wood,
that
they
will
not
be
modified
and
change
and
expand
to
achieve,
produce
more
rides
reach
more
areas,
do
more
things
as
we
get
more
information
and
do
more
things.
And
that's
that's
the
rationale
behind
that
and
we
can
continue
to
talk
offline
if,
okay.
G
D
G
Thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that
I
I
understand
where
that's
coming
from
now
and
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
it's
ideally
a
short-term
thing,
because
I
feel
weary
and
nervous
about
right,
even
just
the
boc
staff
having
to
execute
things
long
term.
That
might
not
be
their
purview,
which
could
include
even
working
with
a
consultant,
and
we
don't
want
to
get
in
Brett's
way
as
he's
standing.
This
thing
up,
so
we
don't.
You
know
crap
the
bed
for
10
years
with
a
Transit
millage,
so
I
totally
hear
you
and
totally
agree.
G
C
And
then
I
completely
support
that
what
the
chairman
said
in
terms
of
your
own
institutional
expertise,
but
we
would
Envision
right.
The
next
focus
is
to
bring
on
these
folks
and
then
give
them
an
opportunity
to
say:
okay,
you
know
this
is
now
what
this
office
needs
or
what
this
effort
needs.
And
so
then
they
would
come
back
to
you
with
with
an
additional
request
or
potentially
depending
on
the
timing.
It
would
be
just
part
of
the
budget.
B
F
Thank
you,
Mr
charity
answer
parts
of
my
upcoming
questions,
I
I
support-
and
this
is
big
for
me
to
say
you
guys
all
know
this
the
consultant
fee,
because
we
don't
know
because
we
I
do
hate
Consultants,
but
because
we
don't
know
we
don't
know.
Yet
we
don't
have
the
expertise
in
staff
so
and
Hillary.
F
You
kind
of
answered
the
question:
do
we
have
a
formal
plan
of
attack
because
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
position
where
we're
former
plan
of
attack
for
hiring
of
three
people
is
what
I
mean
because
I
know
in
some
of
the
other
positions
we
created.
We
put
the
cart
before
the
horse
in
some
cases
and
I'm,
hoping
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
F
We're
hoping
to
hire
the
manager
first
before
the
planners,
so
the
manager
can
hire
the
planners
and
get
exactly
what
that
individual
wants
within
that
organization
because,
like
I
said,
sometimes
we've
flipped
things
and
then
hired
a
manager
and
they
might
want
to
go
in
a
completely
different
direction,
which
is
what
we
see
in
the
private
sector.
So
we
always
try
to
hire
the
supervisor
manager
first
to
let
them
start
to
lay
out
what
the
structure
needs
to
look
like.
Definitely,.
C
C
F
Okay,
because
I'd
hate
this
I
mean
because,
if
we're
hoping
for
this
manager
to
be
some
level
of
an
expert
right
to
have
some
experience
from
what
I
read
within
the
job
description,
that
I'm
not
sure
we
have
the
ability,
within
our
staff
today
of
an
expertise
level
to
hire
somebody
that
that
individual
is
going
to
want
as
a
planner
or
to
support
them.
That.
F
And
then,
from
a
timing
perspective
a
manager
is
number
one,
so
we're
probably
gonna
hit
the
road
running
in
January
February
post
it
now
once
this
is
approved
as
of
tomorrow,
I'm
assuming
it'll
get
approved
and
then
get
that
person.
Then
what
are
we
thinking
for
long
first
quarter
to
have
the
whole
everything
filled?
Do
we
think
that's
plausible?
Are
we
talking
six
months.
C
J
C
Not
that's
what
that's.
That's
the
that's,
usually
what
you
hear
I'm
going
to
hope
that
that's
not
the
case,
but
yes,
I
mean
I.
I
would
hope
that
they
could.
We
could
have
these
people
by
February,
but
again
I'm,
always
you
know
get
it
done
tomorrow
or
yesterday.
So
it'll
just
see
how
we
we
don't
it's
not
like.
I
have
five
people
in
mind.
You
know
that
I
would
say
to
apply.
Unfortunately,
so
do.
C
F
C
B
J
C
H
H
C
Lynn
from
NoDa
and
Renee
from
OPC
they
they
are
professionals
right
and
they've
done,
really
a
fabulous
job.
Standing
up
these
transit
authorities,
so
they've
always
been
constructive
and
you
know
you
heard
from
Rick
Hamel,
so
he
you
know
he
has
a
certain
Vision
here.
You
all
know
Tim's,
so
so
they
you
know
in
terms
of
how
constructive
Tim
always
is
right.
So,
but
at
yesterday's
meeting
we
were
also
joined
by
Chris
Barnett
and
Jack
Curtis
and
Mike
McDonald
from
Addison
and
and
Gary
Wall,
who
has
German
point-haired
shoulders
and
we
talked
about
hunting.
C
Response
yeah:
that's
why
they
were
there
right
and
it
was
a
fascinating
conversation.
I
mean
to
have
the
conversation
that
we
had
with
Mr
Curtis
afterwards
in
terms
of
just
common
areas
and
his
thinking
about
like
well,
you
know
each
entity
has
someone
that
writes
checks
or.
H
C
Were
all
like
fully
engaged
in
the
conversation
and
so
I
think
it
went
little
ways
to
kind
of
building
the
trust
that's
necessary,
but
it
was
really
everyone
was.
It
was
a
very
good
conversation.
C
No,
you
know
you
can't
you
had.
It
was
healthy
conversation
because
you
know
Mike
McDonald,
he
he
he
said
it
one
time
or
he
wanted
some
assurance
that
they
have
been
successful
with
NoDa
in
terms
of
how
they
do
it.
And
you
know
smart
has
a
certain
expertise
right.
They
do
fixed
route,
they
do
this
and
he
wants.
C
He
wanted
a
little
bit
of
reassurance
that
they
can
maintain
their
what's
the
right
word
for
it:
they're
they're,
they're,
the
the
feel
of
their
approach
right
and
that
it's
not
going
to
be
kind
of
a
takeover
and
or
we're
not
going
to
ask
them
to
do
something
that
they're
not,
and
so
we
said
to
him.
C
Look
we
want
you
to
do
what
you're
doing
and
if
you
have
the
ability
to
expand,
tend
to
expand,
and
he
I
think
was
reassured
by
that
and
we
also
told
them
look
the
dollars
that
were
mentioned
in
the
resolution.
That
is
a
floor
in
our
mind.
You
know.
If
you
come
back
to
us
and
you
say
for
three
million
dollars,
we
can
now
provide
this
many
rides
and
do
that
many
that's
this
things,
and
then
we
want
to
hear
about
that.
We
had
conversations
about
how
much
we're
paying
drivers
we
had
conversations
about.
C
J
D
Right
I'll
speak
to
I,
mean
I,
think
the
the
amount
of
work
and
labor
that's
required
to
go
through
these
grants,
especially
federal
grants
and
it
trips
up
a
whole
bunch
of
other
compliance
issue
that
it's
a
real
it's
a
sense
of
relief
of,
oh
my
god.
Let's
just
do
this
together
to
bring
in
the
resources.
Let
us
focus
on
I
mean
picking
up
Grandma
and
getting
her
to
the
doctor's
appointment.
What
we
were
really
good
at
and
if
you
can
just
keep
help
us
get
the
money,
so
we
can
keep
doing
that.
D
That's
great,
so
I.
Now,
in
some
cases
there
are
there
are
grants
for
Rural
transportation.
That
is
perfect
for
some
of
these
rural
areas
that
maybe
make
sense
and,
and
maybe
their
RTA
is
I
mean
our
team.
Smart
are
the
only
Federal
FTA
recognized
agencies
to
get
some
of
these
resources.
They
have
to
kind
of
come
through
them
in
some
form
or
another
and
so
figuring.
All
that
out,
but
I
left
I
mean
the
impression
that
everyone
was
very
excited
to
want
to
talk
about
how
to
do
that.
D
D
Think
I
mean
we're
getting
ready
to
roll
up
your
your
legislative
sleeves,
we're
going
to
have
to
get
some
more
money
into
that
fund
to
be
able
to
draw
down
to
be
able
to
support
them,
and
so
there's
I
mean
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
activity,
but
there
there's
I,
mean
I
I,
think
it's
going,
there's
it's
not
a
worry
about
competition,
and
and
as
and
Hillary
was
saying
that
groups
are
already
I
mean
I
mean
some
of
the
leading
agencies
is
like
if
I
take
someone
to
water
for
a
note
to
take
someone
to
Waterford
we'll
have
water
can
get
them
back.
D
Why
not
I
mean
like
the
boundaries
are,
are
gone.
So
if,
if
boundaries
was
a
barrier
of
why
we
couldn't
deliver
the
service,
that's
gone
now
now
it's
a
function
of
capacity.
Do
we
have
the
drivers
to
be
of
the
vehicles
and
can
we
take
it
to
scale
and
and
I'll
share
a
little
bit
like
my
vision
and
I?
Think
I
mean
I
mentioned
that
the
media
is
like
this
is
about
really
I
mean
thinking
bold
doing
the
most.
We
can,
let's
figure
it
out
and
we'll
scale
it
back
based
on
the
available
resources.
D
But
if
you
get
to
a
level
of
scale,
can
we
potentially
I
mean
move
from
people
having
to
schedule
five
days,
sometimes
two
weeks
before
their
appointment
to
a
more
on-demand
schedule,
the
day
of
to
get
where
they're
wanting
to
go,
especially
for
the
transit
deficient,
which
is
the
new
term
I
learned,
Transportation
deficient
population,
that's
I
mean
that's
out
there,
as
well
as
working
with
smart.
That
I
mean
it
has
its
expertise
as
well.
D
C
D
C
H
C
General
manager,
smart,
you
know,
also
talked
about
this
to
a
certain
extent,
there's
really
an
evolution
or
a
Revolution
going
on
in
terms
of
mobility
and
transportation
like
it
may
not
be
you
may
not.
If
you
did
a
survey
and
a
study
of
what
certain
areas
need,
you
know,
and
he
I
think
it
was
Houston
or
Dallas
or
something
where
you
know
they
really
moved
away
from
fixed
route
to
more
of
the
flex
service,
because
people
were
traveling
within
this
is
the
on-demand
service.
C
You
know
because
more
like
the
Uber
like
service,
because
they're
staying
10
miles
from
from
their
home,
that's
not
necessarily
a
worker
experience,
but
I.
Think
that
we'll
see
you
know
we
may
the
era
of
40
feet.
Foot
buses,
we,
you
know,
maybe
kind
of
in
the
rear
view,
mirror
I,
don't
know
how
many
little
good.
H
I
C
I
I
think
you're
right
about
managing
expectations,
I've
gotten
quite
a
few
emails,
since
the
thing
showed
up
and
I
literally
had
somebody
say
to
me:
does
this
mean
we're
going
to
have
buses
starting
in
January
and
I
was
like
well?
No,
what
it
means
is
we're
starting
to
collect
the
money
in
January,
which
we
will
then
be
able
to
build
the
system
with,
but
you
know
I
mean
just
the
people
really
want
I
had
somebody
say
you
know
Winter's
going
to
be
here
in
two
weeks.
Are
we
going
to
have
transportation?
C
F
Thank
you
again,
Mr
chair
Hillary.
You
brought
up
a
point
which
headlight
bulb
go
up
in
my
head
again
Mobility
since
we're
talking,
you
know
we're
talking
Transit
and
we're
focusing
mostly
on
buses
and
other
ways,
but
there
is
that
other
elephant,
that's
out
there
called
mobility
and
the
Thomas,
driving
and
I
know
we,
as
a
county,
have
talked
about
it
for
years
about
what
we're
going
to
do.
F
Would
you
see
in
the
future
that
potentially
the
roles
that
we're
talking
about
this
group
or
this
department
will
expand
and
include
that
type
of
Mobility,
because
I
know
there's
organizations
around
open,
County
that
are
trying
to
find
routes
to
test
and
all
that
other
stuff
that
I
think
Brett's
been
part
of
in
a
few
in
the
past?
You
know:
is
that
on
anybody's
mind
at
this
point
to
expand
this
to
do
that
type
of
thing,
because
to
me
that's
another
animal,
but
it
falls
into
the
same
realm
right.
E
D
D
D
This
funding's
coming
out
of
that,
so
it's
not
coming
out
of
general
fund
and
other
things
I
wanted
to
mention
that
we
also
have
the
obligation
auditing
service.
Obviously
we
have
Corp
Council,
that's
working
already
trying
to
get
these
contracts
up,
but
there's
probably
we
should
just
assume
that
there's
I
mean
some
legal
costs
required
to
implement
all
of
this,
and
then
I
mentioned
earlier.
The
communications
cost
that
I
mean
as
Commissioners.
That
I
think
all
of
us
have
some
responsibility.
D
Putting
out
there
something's
going
to
happen,
I
mean
are
going
to
happen
sooner
rather
than
later
and
and
we're
all
going
to
have
just
to
learn
as
we
go,
and
some
of
you
are
going
to
Transit
school,
so
clear.
Your
calendars.
B
B
That
okay
I
do
like
the
reasoning
about
not
using
a
junior
Department
person
to
handle
all
the
weight.
That's
going
to
be
put
on
this
because
it
is
a
new
thing.
I
do
appreciate
that
part.
One
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
do
appreciate
that.
Where
will
the
three
people
be
housed
like
what
in
division
is
going
to
be
at
what
location.
C
C
You
all
know
right
in
terms
of
the
facilities
and
the
evaluation
that's
going
on,
and
the
restructuring
and
people
working
remotely.
All
of
that's
going
on
that
building
is
in
the
queue
to
have
all
that
evaluation.
So
we
are
doing
some
reshuffling
of
of
spaces
over
there.
But
yes,
it'll,
be
over
it'll,
be
over
there,
where,
where
Brett
is,
if
you've
ever
been
on
that
back
corner.
B
Somewhere,
yeah,
yes,
I
have
those
are
the
only
questions
I
have
so,
if
there's
any
no
other
discussion,
we'll
call
the
roll
please
or
prompt
the
vote.