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Seeing
no
one
I
will
close
public
comment
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
department
recommendations,
item
7A
acceptance
of
the
FY
2024
Michigan
Indigent
defense,
commission,
Grant
I
need
a
motion
supported
by
commissioner
Powell
good
afternoon.
Good.
E
Afternoon,
Commissioners
Pete,
Mena
I
managed
the
Indigent
defense
Services
office.
This
is
an
item
to
accept
our
yearly
Grant
from
the
state
to
run
our
indigen
defense
system.
You
can
see
that
the
total
Grant
amount
that
we're
accepting
this
year
is
just
over
21
million
dollars
each
year.
We
also
contribute
our
local
share,
which
is
indexed
to
CPI
or
three
percent.
E
Whichever
is
less,
and
it
does
not
compound
it
always
resets
to
its
original
every
year,
so
we're
at
just
over
1.8
million
that
the
county
puts
in
plus
the
21
million
Grant
amount,
giving
us
a
total
budget
of
just
over
23
million
dollars.
I
did
not
prepare
PowerPoint
for
today,
because
I'm
going
to
be
back
in
three
weeks
for
my
budget.
E
Thank
you
presentation
with
all
of
you,
so
I'll
I
will
do
that
then.
But
the
major
change
for
fy24
is
the
implementation
of
hourly
rates
across
the
board.
So
that's
midc
standard,
eight,
essentially
other
than
a
very
few
specific
items
where
we
are
still
going
to
pay
a
shift
rate.
Most
everything
else
is
going
to
be
paid
hourly,
so
attorneys
will
itemize
their
time.
They're
going
to
be
paid.
E
F
E
That's
what
I'm
thinking
absolutely,
but
you
know
when
it
comes
to
appointed
Indigent
counsel,
I
mean
the
rates
that
we
are
able
to
implement
in
this
County
have
just
grown
by
Leaps
and
Bounds
over
the
last
couple
years,
which
is
which
is
excellent.
E
So
we
are,
as
you
all
know.
This
year
we
established
an
internal
public
defender's
office
that
is
up
and
running.
Our
chief
public
defender
has
hired
at
this
point,
I
think
she's
hired
five
attorneys,
two
of
which
have
started
already
and
the
others
are
starting
in
late
August.
E
G
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D
Have
any
questions
for
Mr
Mena,
commissioner
Cabell.
H
I
think
it's
cool
this
year,
budget
growing,
that's
great
I
was
wondering.
Do
you
have
or
is
it
ever
part
of,
like
your
work
or
Consciousness,
to
think
about
restorative
justice
practices,
which
I've
heard
a
lot
about
that
in
like
Des
Moines
and
all
that
yeah?
It's
generally
been
down
to
Classic
percent,
but.
E
Sorry,
the
question
was:
if
we've
ever
looked
at
restorative
justice
practices
and
and
what
that
is
typically,
is
a
situation
where
all
parties
come
together.
You
have
some,
maybe
counseling
sessions,
maybe
sort
of
mediation
sessions
between
a
crime
victim,
a
person
who
may
have
been
alleged
to
commit
that
crime
prosecution
defense
to
some
of
it
is
done
through
pre-trial
diversion.
So
you
might
say:
well
we're
going
to
do
this
in
lieu
of
actually
charging
you
with
the
crime.
E
Restorative
justice
can
work
that
way
or
it
can
also
work
after
someone
is
charged
with
a
crime
through
the
plea
bargaining
process.
So
what
I
would
say
to
that
is
I
I
do
think
that
that's
an
area
of
exploration,
a
lot
of
that
has
to
be
done
in
conjunction
with
the
prosecutor's
office,
because
it's
something
that
they
have
to
also
think
is
valuable
and
and
I
think
that
they
that
they
do
I
think
that
they
are
looking
at
especially
pre-trial
diversion
programs.
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A
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
think
caller
one
might
be
kentice
I,
don't
know
that's
correct
or
not.
If
we
can
unmute
we've
really
taken
a
chance
here.
A
Ken,
are
you
on
yeah
I'm
I'm
on?
Oh,
he
is
caller
one
okay,
so
I
I
will
kick
this
off
a
little
bit.
We
started
this
process.
Well,
we've
started
this
process
a
while
ago.
We
we
have
a
court
management
system
that
is
aging
significantly
in
the
system
and
it
needs
to
be
addressed.
We
put
a
request
for
proposal
out
this
past
year
and
we're
moving
down
that
path.
A
At
the
same
time,
we
were
approached
by
scale
the
Michigan
Supreme
Court
talking
about
trying
to
get
all
of
the
courts
on
their
system.
Ken
and
I
went
up.
This
was
prior
to
to
Rod
being
hired.
A
We
went
up
to
Lansing
and
sat
down
with
the
chief
judge
to
try
to
understand
the
requirements
that
that
are
required,
because
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
we
don't
want
to
spend
8
to
12
million
dollars
on
the
new
court
management
system
and
then
be
required
by
the
state
to
use
another
system
that
that
that
does
not
meet
their
requirements
because
that's
going
to
be
wasteful
spending.
So
what
we
did
is
we
put
a
a
hold
on
the
RFP
process.
A
We
did
talk
to
the
clerk
clerk
Brown,
as
well
as
the
chief
judge
for
the
Circuit
Court
as
well,
to
share
this
information
with
them
that
we
need
to
do
a
gap
analysis
in
regards
to
the
functionality
that
is
required
by
our
circuit
court
and
what
could
be
provided
by
other
requirements
from
scale.
And
that's
what
we're
that's
what's
in
front
of
you
today.
I
I
You
know
this
analysis
is
really
to
look
at
the
risk
associated
with
our
current
system
and
to
see
whether
or
not
it
makes
sense
to
migrants
to
the
state
system,
but,
more
importantly,
to
validate
that
state
system
has
written
for
us
and
that
it
can
accommodate
everything
that
Oakland
County
needs.
So
for
us
right,
you
know
we
obviously
would
love
to
leverage
State
funds
to
actually
Implement
a
court
case
management
system
and
not
have
to
send
open
family
money
to
to
be
able
to
find
that
activity.
D
It's
so
I'll
open
it
up
to
questions.
Commissioner
Ramen
thank.
J
You
literature,
it
makes
sense,
I
think
it's
great
that
you're
doing
this
and
ultimately
saving
us
money.
I
just
want
to
clarify
479
000
is
the
cost
of
this
study.
Yeah
the.
A
Gap
analysis
there
is
there's
a
timing
issue
on
this
as
well.
I
mean
we
need.
We
need
to
move
quickly
when
rfps
go
out
too
there's
only
so
long
that
those
are
rfps.
They
stay
active
as
well,
so
so
part
part
of
part
of
that
price
point.
This
is
not
it's
important
to
understand:
I'm,
not
fond
of
Soul
sourcing,
so
our
approach
here
was
not
to
to
go
to
one
vendor
and
look
to
sole
source.
A
J
I
Significant
performance
issues
and
they
are
getting
worse
and
worse
so
the
first
thing
we
want
to
do
is
obviously
assess
our
current
case
court
case
management
system
or
mainframe
system
and
understand
and
how
much
risk
we
are
and
what
needs
to
be
done
to
to
be
able
to
mitigate
the
infidelity
issues
that
kind
of
were
happening.
I
The
second
one,
the
second
major
part
of
this
is
to
do
a
gap,
analysis
and
compare
it
to
the
needs
of
Oakland
County
and
to
understand,
because
the
state
system
has
been
rolling
out
to
a
number
of
boards
around
the
state,
but
nothing
to
the
size
of
magnitude.
I
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
it
has
functionality
and
has
the
overall,
you
know,
Foundation,
to
operate
a
large
organization
such
as
Oakland
County.
So
it's
really
two
very,
very
significant
studies
that
are
coming
together.
That
will
ultimately
lead
to
a
recommendation
about
how
Oakland
County
should
move
forward
and,
ultimately
again,
if
it's
the
same
system,
we
will
say
significant
money
in
using
fake
resources
versus
accounting
resources.
And
then
this
study
will
help
validate
or
disabilities.
D
Thank
you,
okay,
commissioner,
commissioner
Cabell.
H
H
Make
this
day
want
to
shift
to
what
Oakland
County
does
or
something
so
I'm
trying
to
say
this
diplomatically.
But
like
is
this
basically
to
prove
to
the
court
that
we
should
wait
for
the
state
to
help
leverage
their
money,
and
we
need
to
spend
this
money
to
tell
the
court
that
we
should
wait
for
the
state
to
come.
A
In
I,
I
think
that
that
they
raise
some
valid
questions
that
that
I
believe
that
that
was
in
their
budget.
They,
they
went
through
the
the
process.
They
they
live
this
every
day
and
so
and
I
think
that
they're
concerned
of
whether
scale
can
deliver
or
not,
and
so
I
think
that
those
concerns
are
valid.
We've
shared
those
with
scale
as
well,
so
we
don't
want
to
put
our
head
in
this
hand
and
say:
hey
it's
free
money
from
the
state
to
get
on
scale
system.
I'm.
A
Sorry
we're
going
this
direction
and
not
listen
to
our
customer.
The
Circuit
Court
who's
got
some
concerns,
so
at
the
same
time,
because
they
know
they're
on
an
I.T
mainframe
system
that
is
a
Ricky
bridge
and
so
they're
concerned
about
his
failure
as
well.
So
I
think
this
is
for
us
to
say:
Hey
listen
before
we
run
down
the
road
and
spend
10
million
dollars
on
a
new
system
when
we
could
have
used
scale
system.
Let's
do
our.
Let's
do
our
due
diligence.
A
Let's
make
sure
whether
scale
can
handle
this
or
not,
and
if
they
can't
handle
this,
then
it
will
also
better
articulate
what
should
be
in
the
RFP
and
what
shouldn't
be
in
the
RFP
as
well,
and
then
I
had
one.
H
More
question,
which
might
be
more
for
the
budget
folks,
but
how
much
do
we
have
in
our
non-departmental
general
fund
wow.
G
K
So
so
so
these
funds
are
being
being
transferred
for
utilization
on
this
project
from
a
two
million
dollar
pool
of
funding
that
was
approved
by
the
board
as
part
of
the
current
FY
2023
budget.
I
forget
what
the
balance
left
in
that
fund
is.
K
Funds-
and
so
you
know,
the
non-departmental
section
of
the
budget
is
where
we,
we
reserve
funds.
You
know
for
things
that
aren't
allocated
to
a
specific
Department,
as
the
fiscal
year
starts,
so
in
this
case
there's
a
pool
of
funding
for
for
it
development
projects
and
as
those
projects
are
vetted,
you
know,
through
it
and
through
County
Executive
leadership
and
then
brought
to
you,
the
the
dollars
are
transferred.
You
know
out
of
that
section
of
the
budget
into
the
specific
department.
H
Or
the
you
know
where
the
project
is
going
to
occur
right,
how
much
is
in
there
or
we're
gonna
get
to
it?
We
can
okay
got
it.
Okay,
no
worries,
no
worries,
Senate.
D
B
F
D
D
M
Seen
your
screen
well,
that's
coming
up
good
morning
and
still
morning,
you've
got
five
minutes
left
I'm
Eli,
Cooper
I'm,
the
Transit
manager
came
on
board
in
the
county
earlier
this
year.
Kristen
wolf,
Lang's,
probably
well
known
to
all
of
you,
and
also
with
us,
is
Evelina
Taylor
from
People's
Express,
the
partner
that
we're
looking
to
join
with
us
in
providing
Trends
and
service
in
the
southwest
quadrant
of
the
county.
M
Okay.
So
in
the
beginning
of
2023,
following
the
village
we
had
NoDa
woda,
OPC
and
smart
providing
service.
There
were
two
larger
areas
that
were
not
served
by
an
existing
Authority.
It
was
stuff
in
the
northern
Northwestern
part
of
the
county
in
the
southwestern.
M
What
we
found
out
was
People's
Express
had
individual
contracts
with
municipalities
in
the
southwest
and
in
order
to
bring
them
along
in
a
similar
way
as
the
other
served
communities.
We
engage
in
a
conversation
with
local
communities
and
with
the
operator
culminating
in
the
development
of
the
item
that
we're
bringing
forward
want
to
quickly
show
that
the
services
that
are
currently
in
place
when
you
look
at
the
beautiful
colors
on
that
map,
each
Community
has
a
very
small
service
District.
M
So
if
you
live
in
the
city
of
South
Lyon
and
you
want
to
travel
outside,
it's
not
available
to
you.
So
that's
a
problem,
particularly
with
the
adoption
of
the
County
Mortgage.
M
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
to
bring
People's
Express
in
under
the
county
millage
on
a
service
agreement
for
these
communities.
In
essence,
it's
a
similar
agreement.
I,
don't
want
to
say
exactly
the
same
but
similar
to
what
we
have
with
North
Oakland,
West,
Oakland
and
OPC,
in
that,
if
all
things
go
well
with
the
Committees
on
the
board,
we
get
action
in
early
August
that
the
regional
service
sub-regional
service
will
start
on
September
1st.
The
purple
line
outlining
the
image
on
the
screen
behind
me
now
is
their
driving
area.
M
The
purple
area
bluish
area
in
the
middle
reflects
the
geography
of
the
seven
communities
that
will
be
served
by
this
provider.
M
If
everything
goes
well,
what's
underlying
and
what's
critical
important,
is
that
not
only
is
this
an
integration
of
service
and
enhancement
for
the
current
Riders,
but
we're
demonstrating
how
a
specialized
service
provider
can
accommodate
public
trips
as
well
so
dramatically
different
than
the
NoDa
woda
and
OPC
that
limit
their
services
to
a
Target
population?
M
That
People's
Express
will
both
serve
at
a
discounted
fare
targeted
population
but
are
also
opening
their
doors
to
provide
service
to
the
general
public.
We're
hoping
that
we
have
a
positive
experience
and
are
able
to
bring
a
broader
level
of
service
to
the
other
operators,
because
we're
going
to
take
away
the
scariness
of
opening
doors,
to
General,
Public
being
something
that
may
or
may
not,
and
we
believe
this
may
not
overwhelm
these
smaller
operations.
M
In,
in
summary,
what
we've
negotiated
is
a
monthly
charge
for
services
from
People's
Express
of
eighty
nine
thousand
dollars
per
month.
We've
also
included
capital
for
acquisition
of
new
vehicles.
As
part
of
this
agreement,
there
is
an
offset,
so
there
are
State
dollars
that
come
through
smart,
called
Municipal
credits
as
well
as
eligibility
for
other
state
and
federal
subsidies.
M
That
the
way
this
agreement
is
structured
is
that
we,
the
county,
are
committing
to
fulfill
people's
expresses
needs
to
provide
the
service
and
that
these
intergovernmental
transfers
should
they
be
earned,
will
be
credited
back
to
the
county.
So
the
worst
case
scenario
is
that
we
would
need
the
fund,
the
89
000
we
believe
per
month.
M
We
believe
that
the
municipal
credits
conting
upon
the
action
with
the
engine,
local
agreement
and
the
local
communities
that
have
already
committed
to
us
that
they
will
sign
those
over
to
the
operator.
I
will
be
last.
The
eight
Vehicles
will
be,
and
I
use
the
term
at
the
last
meeting
shining
new
vehicles
in
order
to
provide
a
high
level
high
quality
of
service
to
all
of
our
passengers.
M
Thank
you.
Do
you
want
me
to
walk
through
the
in
our
local
agreement?
I
can
keep
going
right
through
it
just.
M
What's
up
right
now
so
great
great
question,
and
it
just
so
happens
that
I
had
a
top
drawer
response
for
you.
So
what
happens?
Is
we
all
pay,
whether
it's
vehicle
fees,
gas
tax?
We
pay
attention
through
act,
51
to
the
state,
the
dollars
flow
from
the
state
treasury
to
MDOT,
from
MDOT
to
the
local
Transit
Authority?
In
our
case,
it's
smart
and
then
they
make
available
for
reimbursement
with
the
state
cash
tax
and
vehicle
fee
reimbursement
for
transit
services
offered
within
their
geography.
M
It's
kind
of
a
give
back
from
the
taxes
generated
from
that
jurisdiction.
What
will
happen
in
this
instance?
Those
specific
dollars
that
are
allocated
to
the
summit
communities
will
be
pledged
to
support
The,
People's
Express
service,
and
so
the
the
there's
a
lot
more
detail
here.
But
basically
it's
a
vehicle
in
Gaston
tax
money
flowing
through
a
series
of
hands
getting
back
to
the
intended
purpose
of
the
original
payment,
which
was
for
public
transportation
services
in
the
jurisdiction
that
generates
the
revenue.
M
The
only
one
that
I'm
I'm
not
familiar
that
MDOT
but
smart
does
have
a
small
takeoff
that
they
that
they
take
for
administering
the
funds
and
again
they
have
a
three
County
region
where
they
serve
as
the
administrator
of
these
funds,
and
it
does
take
time
for
them
to
process.
They
have
separate
agreements
with
every
community,
so
the
62
cvts
in
Oakland
County
have
agreements
with
smart
and
again
it's
a
it's
handling.
Money.
G
L
D
Three
four
years
ago,
yeah
commissioner
Hoffman.
G
M
B
H
You're
for
it,
what
did
the
transit
ad
hoc
committee
say
when
you
get
just
about
this
expense?
The
1
million.
B
I
believe
it's
on
the
agenda
for
today
for
the
ad
hoc
committee.
B
H
Just
to
point
out
is
that
the
flow
of
things
as
they
go
through
the
binding
committee,
then
the
suggested
ad
hoc
recommendation
afterwards
feels
bass
backwards,
all
right
and
part
of
why
I
was
wondering
that
is
I.
Remember
when
we
were
talking
about
the
millage
back
in
August,
there
was
talk
about
People's
Express,
getting
some
money
and
then
this
also
being
added
to
it.
So
how
much
has
People's
Express
with
this?
Will
they
be
getting
from
the
millage
today.
M
Well
and
again,
the
89
000
a
month
is
the
upper
limit,
because
there's
going
to
be
the
other
dollars
that
are
going
to
come
in
whether
it's
the
Municipal
Credit,
whether
it's
local
bus
operatings,
that
the
funds
that
the
state
also
administers
and
distributes.
So
the
worst
case
is
the
89
000
a
month
between
now
and
the
beginning
of
the
year,
plus
the
capital
cost
for
the
eight
vehicles
that
we're
purchasing
in.
H
They're
purchasing
that
we
use
to
provide
the
service,
but
I
really
set
aside
money
for
People's
Express
I.
Don't.
B
H
Or
something
that
it's
two
dollars
for
Indigent
people
I
mean
why
not
since
you're
the
boss
too
right
what?
Why
not
make
it
free
for
poor
people.
M
So
these
fares
have
been
negotiated
amongst
the
providers
and
again
there's
you
know
a
well-established
practice
of
having
a
fair
in
order
to
represent
the
value
of
the
service
provided.
H
M
So
there's
always
interest.
There
have
been
many
communities
that
have
tried
experiments
with
running
public
transit,
fixed
route,
Fair
free
and
the
outcome
isn't
necessarily
as
you
would.
It
doesn't
generate
ridership
that
folks,
that
are
that
are
Transit.
Riders
are
going
to
write
it,
whether
there's
a
fair
or
not
a
fair,
and
so
the
the
the
question
of
the
issue
of
the
public
utility
and
the
partnership
and
the
value
of
the
services,
but
obviously
be
interested
in
exploring.
If
there's
a
policy
direction
to.
D
Yeah,
okay,
anybody
else,
seeing
no
one
else:
let's
go
ahead.
D
D
K
Good
morning,
Kyle
Jen
director
management
budget.
Obviously
all
of
you
heard
a
lot
about
the
county
budget
last
Thursday
at
the
full
board
meeting.
So
we
don't
want
to
you
know
to
take
up
a
lot
of
time
repeating
that,
but
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
Clarity
in
terms
of
what's
in
front
of
you.
K
There
are
two
different
budget
books
to
make
sure
they've
been
to
you
know
you
understand
where
to
look
for
things
as
you're,
going
through
the
process
for
each
of
the
departments
on
their
individual
budget
hearings
and
since
you've
heard
for
me
last
Thursday
I'm
going
to
stop
talking
and
let
Cheryl
Johnson
our
fiscal
Services
officer
to
kick
us
off
on
the
presentation.
I
would
like
to
take
just
a
moment
to
recognize
the
efforts
of
Staff.
In
particular
this
year.
K
K
It's
a
system
that
integrates
with
workday,
which
is
going
to
lead
to
you,
know
some
efficiencies
and
you
know
data
and
and
and
ability
to
to
analyze
our
budget
going
forward,
but
anytime
you're
using
a
new
system
for
the
first
time
it
takes
a
lot
longer
than
it
does
in
a
normal
year,
so
not
to
Cheryl
but
but
to
employ
and
Hebrew
Jones
are
here
as
the
leaders
of
our
budget
team
and
then
the
whole
team
back
at
the
office.
C
I'm
gonna
try
and
change
it
up
a
little
bit.
So
if
you
have
questions,
if
I
may
just
go
ahead
and
ask
them
I'm
going
to
try
and
do
just
a
really
quick
brief
overview,
you
guys
have
been
through
this
a
couple
of
times.
So
there's
no
need
to
really
sit
here
and
talk
about
some
of
the
things
that
you
all
already
know.
I'm
gonna
try
and
make
it
a
non-accounting
kind
of
a
presentation.
C
So
if
I'm
going
too
fast,
please
stop
me
or
if
you
have
any
questions
as
I
go
just
feel
free
to
speak
up
because
sometimes
I
forget
that
we
all
don't
gig
speak
like
this,
so
the
very
first
slide
I
have
is
just
a
quick
reference
for
everybody
about
the
fun
types,
we're
mostly
going
to
focus
on
the
general
fund,
general
purpose,
which
is
primarily
supported
by
our
tax
dollars
and
charges
for
services
and
the
revenues
that
we
get
from
the
state
and
the
federal
government.
The
special
revenues
are
Grant
funds.
C
Those
usually
have
tasks
so
tied
to
them.
Sometimes
we
match
those
funds.
Sometimes
we
don't
and
then
proprietary
funds
are
the
funds
that
are
operated
like
a
business
like
one
resources
and
parks
are
two
of
our
major
proprietary
funds
that
we
we
don't
go
too
much
into,
but
the
the
main
focus
today
is
going
to
be
on
those
general
fund.
General
purpose.
C
And
I
see
you
taking
pictures,
I
can
email
you
the
slide
deck,
okay,
yeah,
so
you're
good.
So
the
the
next
slide
is
the
all
funds,
the
the
graphical
presentation
of
the
general
fund
compared
to
the
special
Revenue
funds
and
the
proprietary
funds.
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
bulk
it's
like
50
of
our
budget
is
general
fund
general
purpose,
and
then
we
have
10,
that's
the
special
Revenue
which
are
the
grant
type
funds
and
then
about
40
percent
are
operated
for
water
resources
and
our
other
proprietary
funds.
C
This
next
slide
is
the
general
fund
budget
summary.
So
on
the
left,
you'll
see
the
the
revenue
piece
and
on
the
right
you're
going
to
see
fifty
percent
the
expenditure
piece.
These
are
graphic
representations
of,
what's
in
your
line,
item
Budget
on
page
52
and
then
the
expenditures
start
on
page
60..
C
So
if,
if
you're
looking
at
these-
and
you
want
to
see
like
okay,
here's
property
taxes-
you-
maybe
you
want
to
see
where
we
started-
where
we
ended
up
or
a
trend-
you're,
just
you're,
going
to
want
to
flip
through
your
large
book
and
like
I
said
around
page
52
to
about
63
is
where
we
have
a
lot
of
those
summary
reports
there.
There
some
of
them
are
broken
down
by
department,
but
most
of
them
you'll
see
like
how
much
are
we
getting
from
property
tax?
C
How
much
are
we
getting
from
the
intergovernmental
revenues,
which
is
state
revenue,
sharing
and
federal
dollars,
charges
for
service
and
and
things
like
that,
the
expenditures
are
broken
down
by
Personnel
operating
expenditures,
expenses,
internal
service
and
transfers
out.
You
will
see
those
starting
on
page
60
to
63,
there's
a
lot
of
detail
in
there,
but
this
will
give
you
again
just
the
overview
of
what
percentages
we're
spending.
You
can
see
that
the
bulk
of
our
Revenue
comes
from
property
taxes
and
that
primarily
supports
the
bulk
of
our
expenditures,
which
are.
C
Okay,
so
this
slide
is:
this
is
a
really
cool
slide
that
Kyle
put
together
this
time
and
the
reason
I
like
this
slide
is:
it
shows
you,
the
general
fund,
general
purpose
by
function.
So
you
get
a
really
good
idea
of
what
departments
are
utilizing
general
fund.
What
departments
are
utilizing?
The
some
of
the
grant
revenue
and
what
departments
Like
Water
Resources
you
can
see,
is
primarily
the
beige
color
because
that's
primarily
an
Enterprise
fund.
So
this
is
a
really
good
representation
of
what
departments
are
utilizing.
C
L
C
H
That
Top
Line
yeah
I
was
going
to
say
boy.
Wasn't
the
sheriff's
budget
176
Million
last
year,
which
was
still
40
of
our
general
fund?
And
now
it's
200.
foreign.
N
There's
a
green
line
and
when
that
green
line
stops
that
little
amount
or
if
it's
a
yellow,
you
know
mob
whatever
we're
calling
it.
Those
were
saying
on
top
of
yeah.
C
So
like
when
you're
looking
at
the
sheriff
and
I
know,
this
is
really
small
and
I
apologize,
but
to
try
and
get
all
the
departments
on
there.
So
the
green
line
is
all
the
general
fund
dollars
and
then
the
beige
or
mauve,
or
whatever
we're
going
to
call
that
color.
That
is
the
the
part
of
the
sheriff
expenditures
that
are
covered
by
grants.
You
know
I
do
want
to
point
out.
C
It
is
the
largest
piece
of
our
general
fund
budget,
but
we
also
serve
several
communities
and
that's
all
in
this
number,
so
we
do
have
revenues
that
come
back
covering
for
Pontiac.
We
are
the
sheriff's
office
for
the
the
police
department
for
them,
so
those
numbers
are
all
included
in
here.
That's
not
broken
out.
C
The
next
slide
is
Kyle's
favorite
slide,
showing
that
we
do
have
a
structurally
balanced
budget.
This
year
we
did
last
year
we
have
a
very
small
Surplus,
and
then
we
have
some
one-time
expenditures
for
it
things
a
medical
examiner,
some
other
small
items,
and
this
is
the
slide
that
you
see
in
most
of
our
financial
presentations,
because
it's
a
cool
slide.
It
shows
that
we're
you
know
our
revenues
and
our
expenditures
are
our
level
and
we're
structurally
balanced,
which
is
really
important.
C
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
the
budget
documents,
because
we
sure
get
a
lot
of
documents
for
the
budget.
We
got
the
line
item
budget,
which
is
the
large
book
that
you
got
last
week
before
July
1st,
which
is
required
by
the
state
to
have
that
out
by
July
1st
yeah
and
then
today,
by
the
skin
of
our
teeth.
We
got
the
categorical
and
all
of
these
all
of
these
documents
are
on
the
website.
J
L
D
L
G
G
F
C
I'm
going
to
show
you
how
to
use
them
together
so
that
you
don't
have
to
carry
that
big
one
around
because
it's
it
is
smaller
than
it
was
last
year,
but
it's
still
in
excess
of
almost
600
Pages.
It's
a
lot
of
information
and
if
you
have
certain
areas
that
you're
just
trying
to
focus
on
or
certain
things
that
you
want
to
look
at,
it's
really
hard
to
find
in
that
book.
So
all
of
that
stuff
is
on
the
website.
C
The
book
that
you
should
have
gotten
July
1st
is
the
big
book
or
the
line
item
book.
It's
the
county
executive
recommended
there
will
be
a
finance
recommended
after
we
go
through
all
the
hearings
and
we
have
our
conversations
and
then
that
will
come
like
late
August
early
September
after
we've
had
the
hearings
in
all
of
our
conversations
and
then
the
adapted
budget
has
to
be
adopted
by
September
30
by
law.
C
C
We
talked
about
the
line
item
book.
This
is
this:
is
the
the
two
books
and
kind
of
what's
in
them
and
I
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
data,
but
that's
why
I
kind
of
wanted
to
walk
you
through
how
to
use
them
together,
because
once
I
figured
that
out,
it
was
a
lot
easier
for
me.
So
let
me
get
to
my
next
slide
now
these
I'm
just
going
to
apologize.
These
are
small,
but
these
are
designed
to
kind
of
give
you
the
overview,
so
I'm
going
to
use
the
clerk's
office.
C
C
L
H
G
L
C
If
you
still
have
questions,
books
and
I,
think
that's
don't
we
miss
her
books,
that's
basically
how
this
works.
If
you
guys
have
any
questions
about
this,
I
I
haven't
checked
all
of
them,
but
I
did
you
know
double
check
everything
with
the
clerk's
office.
I
know
it
ties
the
way.
I
say
ties
and
I'm,
not
sure
the
the
slides
are
public.
C
So
if
you
guys
want
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
slides
to
help
figure,
it
out,
look
at
the
page
numbers
we
do
put
those
page
numbers
on
the
top
and
I
will
say
when
we
first
started
putting
a
categorical
together.
The
team
puts
these
page
numbers
on
there
by
hand
I'm
like
what
in
the
world.
Are
you
doing
that
for
now,
I
understand
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
that,
to
make
it
easier
for
everybody,
so
the
other
piece
that
I
feel
is
important
is
the
budgetary
control.
C
So,
as
you
look
at
how
we
actually
we
give
you
a
line,
item
budget,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
I
have
if
I
can't
go
over
in
supplies
and
then
have
you
know,
printing
materials
under
it
I
can
fluctuate
in
those.
As
long
as
these
particular
control
categories
are
still
within
budget
and
totality
so
for
personnel,
if
I'm
short,
three
people
and
I
end
up
having
people
that
are
working
overtime,
I,
don't
necessarily
have
to
make
a
budget
change
for
that,
because
my
Personnel
budget
is
still
intact.
C
So
it
allows
the
managers
to
utilize
the
funds
that
they
have
in
in
a
normal
resourceful
way,
and
they
don't
have
to
keep
like
keeping
an
eye
on
those
line.
Item
things
that
would
really
they
would
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
doing
that
so
personal
expenditures
are
all
in
one
group
that
would
include
salaries
fringes
over
time.
Things
like
that
operating
expenditures
which
are
Commodities
supplies,
Staples
things
like
that
contractual
Services,
Professional
Services.
C
C
But
it
has
to
stay
with
it.
It
has
to
stay
within
the
department,
so
I
can't
say
well:
I'm
I'm,
taking
Personnel
on
a
sheriff
and
I'm
going
to
put
in
fiscal
Services.
I
can't
do
that,
but
as
a
fiscal
service
person,
I
can
have
people
work
overtime
instead
of,
if
I'm
having
a
hard
time
hiring
someone
okay,
but.
H
That
also,
then
means
that
our
budget
asks
for
our
like
caucuses,
or
our
conversations
are
important
to
do
now.
So
we
don't
mess
up
your
budget
later
by
trying
to
ask
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
something
in
a
month
when,
if
we
could
just
work
on
it
in
the
budget,
then
it
trues
it
up
so
making
sure
we
talk
about
that
as
caucuses
is
important.
Yeah.
C
I,
don't
think
it
messes
up
the
budget
I
think
it
chews
up
the
budget.
Okay,
you
know
I
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
way
to
mess
up
the
budget.
You
know
we
we
are
in
charge
of
you,
know,
citizens
dollars,
so
I,
don't
think
we
mess
it
up.
I
think
we
just
need
to
you
know
we
just
plan
better.
Okay,
okay-
and
this
is
all
based
on
the
general
Appropriations
act-
that
we
have
these
control
categories.
So
it's
not
like
I
decided.
C
The
other
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
in
the
large
book,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
detail
in
the
large
book
for
there's
Personnel
positions
and
numbers
and
all
of
those
kinds
of
things
in
there.
If
that's
your
thing,
there's
a
whole
section
have
fun,
but
there's
also
a
Professional
Services
contract
appendix
and
I
understand.
C
This
is
a
few
years
new,
and
this
is
designed
to
just
have
a
list
of
all
the
professional
service
contracts
that
are
out
there
that
are
over
I,
think
in
excess
of
a
hundred
thousand,
and
they
have
not
gone.
There's
there's
specifications
based
on
the
miscellaneous
resolutions.
C
You
guys
have
decided.
Do
you
wanted
to
see
so
what
we
do
all
we
do
is
compile
these.
So
if
you
go
through
that
list-
and
you
see,
you've
got
a
specific
question
about
a
particular
vendor
or
a
professional
service
contract.
Make
sure
that
you
make
a
note
and
and
request
that
information
from
the
Departments
I
believe
that
we
put
the
list
together.
Do
we
sort
it
by
Department?
Yes,
so
we
sorted
it
by
department.
So
you
can
look
at
the
Departments
if
you
run
through
any
of
those
in
during
any
of
the
budget
hearings.
L
C
C
I
love
that,
but,
as
I
said,
any
questions
just
take
those
out
to
the
department
and
then
my
last
slide
told
you
I
was
going
to
make
this
quick.
Just
talking
about
you
know
you,
you
all
are
familiar
with
the
process.
Anything
that
we
discuss
in
the
budget
hearings
that
we're
getting
ready
to
do
like
nothing
is
going
in
the
finance
committee
recommended
until
the
wrap-up
session
and
it
all
gets
decided.
So
any
questions
feel
free
to
ask
them
before
them.
C
Know
that
we
have,
we
have
forwarded
the
scheduled
to
the
budget.
Analysts
and
I
know
that
there
could
potentially
be
some
changes.
That
I
think
that
you
know
as
the
Departments
kind
of
Shuffle.
What's
going
to
work
for
them
and
what's
not
going
to
work
for
them,
but
if
not
all
three
of
us.
Certainly
the
majority
of
the
three
of
us
will
be
available
and
I'm,
usually
always
listening
online
as
well.
Ooh
always
listening.
L
L
L
G
H
O
Not
necessarily
what
I
do,
but
in
collaboration
with
physical
Services,
chair
Markham
and
chair
Woodward.
Yes,
what
we'll
be
doing
during
budget
wrap
up
is
making
sure
that
all
the
discussion
about
possible
amendments
that
happen
during
those
budget
hearings
come
to
this
committee
and
are
moved
over
to
the
full
board.
O
F
F
O
So,
just
to
comment
real
quickly.
Obviously
you
have
the
calendar.
Things
could
Shuffle
around
if
departments
decide
that
they
can't
make
it
that
day
or
need
to
make
a
change,
but
we
have
confirmed
a
majority
of
our
hearings,
and
so
we
hope
that
this
will
be
the
final
calendar.
If
you
have
any
concerns
on
days
that
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
it,
please
coordinate
with
staff.
As
you
know,
there
won't
be
any
votes
taking
place
at
these
meetings.
D
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
Great
I
need
a
motion
to
receive
and
file
the
budget
camera
shots.
Commissioner
Powell
supported
by
commissioner
Hoffman
discussion.
N
Questions
discussion
the
next
one,
what's
on
the
menu
so.
O
Certainly
because
we
are
a
public
meeting
and
we
are
going
to
have
very
long
meetings,
we
will
be
working
through
the
county
policy
to
provide
some
refreshments
and
snacks
for
both
Commissioners
and
the
public.
So
don't
necessarily
have
a
breakdown
of
the
menu.
But,
as
you
know,
we
try
to
keep
it,
keep
it
local
and
so
we'll
use
it
we'll
go
ahead
and
use
the
cafeteria
downstairs
that
helped
us
out
last
year
really
well
so.
D
D
All
right
motion
carries,
and
just
in
case
you
want
to
know,
what's
going
on
Sarah's
trying
to
get
some
shots
for
the
website.