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Excellent,
all
the
communications
have
been
received
and
filed
next
up.
We
have
our
departmental
recommendations.
Item
8A
is
the
reorganization
of
risk
management,
department
and
I
see
we
have
D
McBroom
with
us
this
morning,
so
I
need
emotions
from
commissioner
Smith
Charles
supported
by
commissioner
Hoffman
good
morning.
I
Good
morning
Commissioners
Madam,
chair
and
Commissioners,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
this
morning,
I
followed
the
instructions
in
the
agenda
and
appeared
remotely
so
I.
You
know
I
hope,
I,
hope
that
the
fact
that
I'm,
not
in
person
you
know,
doesn't
doesn't
Prejudice
anyone
but
anyway.
I
So
the
reason
I'm
before
you
this
morning
is
because,
since
I
joined
the
county
in
2021,
as
you
can
imagine,
there
have
been
a
number
of
changes
at
risk
management
in
terms
of
various
priorities
of
the
county,
as
well
as
differing
needs
of
of
the
county
from
the
Personnel.
That's
that's
at
risk
and
in
the
interest
of
transparency
and
making
sure
we
are
working
as
efficiently
as
possible.
I
I
wanted
to
kind
of
look
at
the
Personnel
in
in
the
two
funds
that
provide
Personnel
for
risk
management,
The
Fringe
fund
and
the
b
l
fund
and
kind
of
right
size.
Those
and
have
those
positions
reflect
what
the
folks
here
actually
do,
because
some
of
the
job
descriptions
that
we
had
didn't
really
match
what
people
were
in
fact
doing
here
on
the
ground.
I
In
addition,
there
have
been
some
some
new
projects
here
at
the
County,
as
well
as
regulatory
changes
on
the
federal
and
state
level
that
have
caused
us
to
you
know
to
refocus
and
change
some
some
of
the
way
we
we
do
business
here
so
in.
In
short,
we
have
eliminated
a
couple
of
positions.
I
want
to
say
the
outset
that
no
one
is
is
I'm,
not
downsizing.
I
No
one
is
losing
their
their
role
here
at
risk
management,
I
I
have
eliminated
those
positions
because
we
really
don't
have
the
need
for
them,
and
I
have
reclassified.
One
decision
here
from
technical
assistant
to
what's
going
to
be
called
a
claim
specialist.
That
is
someone
who
is
here
and
works
on
the
on
the
B
L
side.
I
They
do
a
lot
of
claims
processing
for
us.
Non-Litigated
claims,
chiefly
that's
what
she
does
and-
and
she
also
serves
as
a
a
second
to
our
workers,
comp
claim
specialist
one
of
the
other
priorities
that
I
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
we're
working
on
is
having
some
redundancy
in
the
department
with
respect
to
both
skills,
background
knowledge
and
background
knowledge
and
training.
I
There
really
was
no
one.
There
was
no
redundancy
in
in
with
respect
to
our
workers,
comp
piece,
there's
very
little
redundancy
with
respect
to
our
Insurance
Specialists,
so
sort
of
for
that
business
continuity
goal
as
well.
That's
what
that's
that's!
What
I
was
looking
to
the?
In
addition,
we
are
adding
a
driver,
training
and
safety
specialist,
and
that
is
a
a
role
for
someone
who
will
be
serving
to
be
the
in-house
trainer
for
commercial
driver's
licenses
with
respect
to
the
field
training.
I
Only
so
I
know
there's
a
bit
of
expertise
on
this
Council
on
this
on
this
board,
with
with
respect
to
you,
know,
truck
driver
and
CDL
training.
So
I
want
to
be
really
clear
about
what
we're
doing
here.
I
Back
in
2021,
the
federal
government
changed
the
way
it
permits
any
employer
to
train
their
CDL
Drivers
and
they're
you're
required
now
to
use
a
federally
certified
trainer
that
did
two
things
number
one
it
it
changed
the
way
we
were.
We
normally
did
things
here
at
the
county.
The
way
we
did
things
was
basically
sort
of
on
the
job
training.
I
We
had
a
part-time
sheriff's
deputy
that
would
volunteer
to
go
into
the
Departments
and
help
people,
you
know
get
trained
up
for
their
CDL
and
then
they
could
take
the
test
and
the
test
Etc,
and
then
they
were,
they
could
hold
a
license
now
we
have
to,
and
that
person
was
unwilling
to
continue
in
that
role.
I
I
I
It's
obviously
necessary
for
some
of
the
roles
that
that
we
have
and
what
are
resources
and
facilities
and
and
other
and
even
parks
and
other
apartments.
So,
with
this
with
implementing
this
position,
we
can
take
that
three
to
four
thousand
dollars
and
training
a
CDL
trainer,
a
CDL
training
regimen
would
really
only
be
about
eight
hundred
dollars
at
the
very
most,
including
all
the
testing.
I
So
we're
trying
to
save
a
bit
of
money,
but
additionally,
one
of
the
we're
trying
to
save
the
time
and
the
the
the
the
work
energy
for
for
these
positions,
because,
frankly,
you
know
sending
an
employee
out
for
a
12-week
training
course,
when
they're
not
doing
productive
work
here
at
the
county,
you
know
also
has
a
cost,
so
this
person
would
be
able
to
do
that
on
the
job
training
with
them,
while
they're
actually
doing
their
job
in
the
department.
I
In
addition,
this
person
will
say
will
will
serve
in
a
general
safety
role.
It's
a
role
that
did
exist
here
at
the
county
before
I
was
a
risk
manager,
but
that
hadn't
been
filled
for
a
number
of
years
and
I
think
you
all
know
that
we
are
working
very
hard
to
increase
our
culture
of
safety.
I
Here
in
in
the
county,
we
have
established
a
new
Safety
Committee
at
the
facilities
department,
and
that
is
a
big
focus
of
adjos
and
others
in
the
leadership
there
and
we're
working
very
hard
to
get
the
rank
and
file.
Folks
really
engaged
with
that.
We
have
reconstituted
the
safety
committees
at
Water
Resources,
which
had
gone
dormant
dormant
and
we
are
working
on
reconstituting
the
park,
Safety
Committee
as
well.
I
So
there
are
a
number
of
safety
ongoing
safety
questions,
concerns
that
require,
quite
frankly,
a
lot
of
time
to
resolve
and
look
at
and
kind
of
be
there
present
on
the
ground
for
employees
to
be
a
resource.
So
that
is
the
the
second
position.
The
third
position
is
what's
called
a
cop
policy
and
compliance
specialist.
I
I
As
you
all
know,
we
spent
a
tremendous
amount
of
money
getting
a
framework
in
place
for
HIPAA
compliance,
and
that
framework
really
does
require
ongoing
monitoring
and
auditing
of
our
processes.
Process
says
he's
here
in
the
county
and
making
sure
that
we
are
compliant.
It's
not
simply
an
online
process.
It
involves
a
lot
of
human
interaction.
I
In
addition,
this
person
will
serve
as
the
behavioral
threat
assessment
Record
Keeper
for
that
team,
as
well
keeping
those
those
records
appropriately
here
and
making
sure
that
the
the
procedures
are
are
standardized.
I
We
have,
in
addition,
they'll
serve
as
the
Dei
liaison
for
risk
management,
which,
as
you
know,
is
a
is
a
big
Focus
here.
I
think
that
we
have
just
started
to
skim
the
surface,
to
the
role
that
risk
management
could
play
in
ensuring
some
Dei
implementation.
I
Some
of
those
are
very
outdated
and
this
person
would
be
focused
on
on
those
projects,
primarily
as
the
researcher
the
initial
scribe,
and
then
you
know
we
would
have
to
get
it
through,
get
it
through
the
the
the
system
in
terms
of
getting
approval,
either
from
HR
or
input
from
other
departments
in
ending
Amendment
for
FY
23,
which
is
a
net
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
Increase
for
these
changes
in
positions-
I
guess
I
should
have
also
mentioned
at
this
point.
Richmond
has
three
invest
part-time
investigators.
I
Those
investigators
serve
chiefly
to
support
HR
investigations,
some
workers
comp
investigations
and
they
also
have
executive
protection
duties
and
in
order
to
ensure
coverage,
we've
had
to
Cobble
together
over
these
last
months,
kind
of
a
a
few
different
we've
had
under
fill
some
positions
Etc.
So
this
is
kind
of
bringing
everything
into
into
alignment.
I
There's
one
person
that
sits
at
HR
right
now
we're
bringing
them
back
into
risk
management,
so
it's
just
kind
of
frankly
creating
more
transparency
about
who
who
works
at
risk
and
and
and-
and
you
know
where
they're,
which
pot
they're
paid
from
so
instead
of
three
part-time
employees
a
thousand
hours.
We
really
only
need
them
for
500
hours,
so
I
was
able
to
save
a
little
bit
there.
We
need
three
people
simply
because
of
coverage
issues.
It's
just
it's
just
really
a
matter
of
a
matter
of
scheduling.
I
So
that's
the
one
last
thing
I
wanted
to
wanted
to
mention,
but
back
to
the
the
dollar
differences
for
this
year.
It
is
about
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar
increase
and
for
for
this
fiscal
year,
I
think
a
little
higher
being
able
to
have
them
cover
these
positions
for
a
portion
of
of
this
fiscal
year
for
the
ongoing
costs.
I
It's
it's
roughly
sixty
thousand
dollars
difference
frankly
in
terms
of
ensuring
that
we
are
miosha
compliant
with
a
number
of
areas
that
my
OSHA
is
currently
focusing
like
Hazard,
Communications
and
SDS
systems
and
other
areas
I
think
it
is,
it
is
money
well
spent,
and
it
will
make
sure
that
the
priorities
of
the
county
as
we
see
them
in
terms
of
these
various
projects
and
especially
in
the
safety
space
that
that
we
are
doing
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
that
those
programs
are
really
as
top-notch
as
they
should
be.
A
All
right
so
I
will
go
on
commissioner
weipert
first,
but
any
of
the
rest
of
you
who
want
to
ask
a
question
if
you
wouldn't
mind
requesting
on
the
agenda,
commissioner,.
J
Wiper
you
go
first,
I'm,
not
sure
why
it's
working,
but
I
think
it
is.
Thank
you
for
the
explanation
on
the
driver
training
that
at
first
blush
I'm
like
we
need
an
employee
to
teach
CDL,
but
now
that
you've
gone
through
it,
I
mean
if
it
plays
around
for
12
weeks
for
training.
J
We
have
to
replace
that
or
cover
that
and
and
the
person
will
also
do
ongoing
safety
training.
For
for
everybody.
Yes,
can
you
run
the
numbers.
I
Oh
yeah
for
sure
to
give
you
an
idea,
so
the
the
change
over
in
in
the
federal
changeover
in
training
took
took
place.
The
implementation
of
that
was
February.
2021.,
wait.
Let
me
back
up
I'm,
sorry,
2022..
It
was
delayed
a
year
we
had
around
the
county
at
that
for
within
within
five
months
we
had
six
individuals
who
needed
to
be
trained,
and
it
was
you
know
when
you
just
do
the
math.
I
It
makes
sense,
at
least
for
this
fiscal
year
right
and
you
know,
frankly
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
more
employees.
You
know,
as
we
have
more
and
more
turnover,
get
that
need
that
training
and
really
the
a
very
big
issue
was
that
they
couldn't
do
that
road.
You
know
that
20
hours
of
Road
and
range
range-
you
know
it's
basically
like
drivers
training.
They
couldn't
do
that
if
we
were
sending
them
up
to
an
outside
entity
and
this
training
school
was
in
Romeo.
I
You
know
that
was
the
very
closest
we
could
find,
and
so
you
know
yeah
it
was
a.
It
was
a
lot
of
time
away
from
the
job
site,
for
you
know
for
those
employees
and
we
feel
as
though
we're
going
to
be
able
to
provide
that
service
to
the
Departments
as
they.
You
know,
we
don't
typically
have
you
know
20
people
needing
training
all
at
once,
so
what's
staggering
it
we're
going
to
be
able
to
make
that
work,
I
think
with
one
person.
Okay,
thank
you.
K
K
K
A
A
Motion
carries
thank
you
very
much.
Commissioners
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you
all.
Right.
Next
up
we
have
item
8B,
Information
Technology
extension
for
three
years
with
Kronos
Incorporated
for
Workforce
Central
licensing,
TeleStaff
licensing
and
collect
meet
moved
by
commissioner
Smith
Charles,
supported
by
commissioner
Rahman.
H
Hello-
everybody,
hello,
Madam,
commissioner
and
Commissioners.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
present
on
the
next
two
items
before
I.
Do
that,
though,
I
just
want
to
do
two
thank
yous
number.
One
I
want
to
thank
this
committee
and
the
board
collectively
overall,
last
September
August
September
time
frame.
We
came
in
front
of
this
committee
and
then
ultimately
went
to
the
board
for
a
reorganization
in
I.T.
H
We
asked
for
a
Chief,
Information
officer
structure
and
thank
you
for
that
approval.
What
that
gave
us
is
the
opportunity.
Is
this
gentleman
to
my
left:
Ken
Tice
who's
been
our
interim
Chief
Information
officer
since,
since
October
I
believe
he
has
put
Oakland
County's
I.T
on
a
new
Glide
path.
Since
he's
been
here
now,.
H
Voted
unanimously,
I
think
at
the
last
board
meeting
for
our
new
CIO
Rod
Davenport,
who
will
be
starting
May,
8th,
But
Ken
had
two
jobs
when
he
came
on
and
one
of
those
jobs
was
to
find
us
a
new
CIO
he's
retired.
We
were
able
to
pull
him
out
of
retirement
to
come
in
and
help
us
here
in
Oakland
County,
but
he
did
more
than
just
find
us
a
new
CIO.
H
He
he
turned
over
some
rocks
and
and
created
some
new
processes
for
this
organization
and
I.
The
second
thank
you
goes
to
Ken
this
he'll
be
serving
as
the
interim
CIO
until
until
Sunday
you
never
know
what
happens
with
the
I.T
system.
So
it's
important
for
me
to
say
Sunday
versus
close
the
business
on
Friday,
but
he'll
continue
on
with
the
transition
path,
but
he
has.
He
has
done
a
tremendous
job
for
this
County
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
recognizing
him.
So.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
So
thank
you
for,
for
that
brief
opportunity
to
do
a
couple
of
thank
yous.
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
EJ.
In
regards
to
the
the
extension
for
the
three
years
with
the
Kronos,
and
you
want
to
go
ahead.
L
So
basically,
Kronos
is
a
scheduling
software,
as
well
as
time
and
attendance
software
that
we
use
in
several
facets
of
the
county.
It
right
now
handles
the
sheriff's
department,
the
fmo
group,
as
well
as
Children's
Village,
and
we're
seeking
an
extension
of
this
contract
largely
due
to
the
complexities
associated
with
it.
It
is
integrated
into
work
data.
L
It
helps
these
people
with
their
Staffing
and
their
payments,
as
well
as
the
fact
that
these
rules
sets
that
how
you
govern
their
pay
are
very
complex
and
takes
a
long
time
to
change
out
so
between
the
integration
with
workday.
In
addition
to
the
complexity
of
the
change,
it
is
an
easier
path
forward
to
stay
the
current
course,
and
so
we're
asking
for
that
request
to
have
this
extension.
L
C
So
I
just
on
Kronos
did
we
have
them
doing
this
before
we
had
the
work
day.
Also,
okay,
all
right!
That's
it
yeah.
M
Yeah
clock
maintenance
people
are
like.
L
There's
an
electronic
time
clock
as
well,
so
sometimes
it's
an
electronic
clock.
There
are
some
still
physical
clocks,
I
believe
in
in
certain
facilities
and.
M
Kronos
or
Chronos,
however
Kronos
is,
they
primarily
are
what
kind
of
tech
company.
L
M
E
L
E
I,
remember
and
I
can't
find
it
now,
but
when
I
was
reviewing
the
package
earlier,
I
saw
something
about
a
rate
of
like
400
an
hour.
Does
that
mean
anything
or
am
I
just
making
up
that
figure?
I,
remember
seeing
something
in
the
pack
in
about
400
an
hour
I,
don't
know
if
that
means
anything
to
you.
I
do
not
know
no
I.
Do
that.
No
okay.
A
N
Yeah
I'll
just
avoid
about
a
450
000
implementation
cost
a
cost
avoidance
perspective.
Thank
you.
C
A
N
Yep,
absolutely
so
what
this
is
really.
This
is
a
recap
of
all
our
development
costs
for
the
previous
quarter.
It's
the
work
that
we're
doing
to
for
the
Departments
and
for
the
other
different
parties
that
are
there.
This
actually
takes
the
1.499
145
from
the
general
fund
and
moves
it
into
the
I.T
budget.
It
takes
approximately
eight
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
from
the
special
revenue
and
proprietary
fund
and
moves
it
into
the
IT
budget
and
then
for
non-county
agencies.
N
It's
about
fifty
six
hundred
dollars,
ninety
nine
56.99
dollars
that
are
moving
from
that
from
their
local
funds
into
our
IIT
budget.
So
it
really
is
just
moving
transfer
of
money
from
the
work
that
we're
doing
for
the
different
departments
from
the
GF
funds
and
those
different
funds
into
the
it
budget
itself.
A
Okay,
commissioner,.
K
Powell,
so
this
is
the
I.T
Department
correct,
yes,
is
Mr
Tim
still
with
us
yeah,
because
you
know
he's
usually
here
with
I.T
stuff.
Do
nothing
but
I'm
just
used
that
and
I
just
you
know.
I
know
employees
be
moving,
so
I
just
wanted
to
know
because
I
was
gonna.
That's
the
guy
I
really.
M
A
D
A
Step
we're
going
to
have
item
8D
fiscal
year,
2024-26
preliminary
review
estimates
I
need
a
motion
commissioner
Rama,
which
is
supported
by
commissioner
Powell
I.
Will,
let's
see,
we
have
Kyle
Jen
here
right
good
morning?
Are
you
the
person
I.
O
Sounds
good
good
morning,
Commissioners
this
morning
is
kind
of
the
kickoff
of
of
the
budget
process.
For
you
know,
for
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
and
Beyond
staff
has
certainly
been
busy
with
a
lot
of
technical
work
behind
the
scenes,
but
you
know
you
always
start
with
Revenue
first
and
then
you
know,
decide
how
to
spend
those
dollars
and
make
sure
we're
balanced,
so
I'm,
bringing
you
an
overview
of
our
preliminary
Revenue
last
week
for
the
general
fund.
O
This
is
just
informational
at
this
point,
but
these
are
the
estimates
that
we're
going
to
use
to
produce
the
recommended
budget
that
we
will
transmit
to
you
in
July.
So
this
is
a
fairly
long
presentation.
It's
longer
than
I
would
have
liked,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you
have
all
this
information.
O
You
know
as
we
move
forward
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
it
fairly
quickly.
You
know,
but
but
but
obviously
feel
free
to
jump
in.
If
you
have
questions
or.
C
O
Right
so
we'll
start
with
an
overview
of
of
the
key
economic
indicators
and
real
estate
indicators
that
we're
tracking
that
inform
our
Revenue
estimates.
Inflation.
Obviously
you
know,
continues
to
be
in
the
news,
but
is
starting
to
come
down.
This
church
shows
in
22
the
spike
up
above
eight
percent
in
inflation
nationally,
and
then
what
the
you
know
kind
of
the
spectrum
of
forecasts
from
economists
going
forward.
So
you
can
see
you
know
everyone's
everyone's
in
agreement.
That's
coming
down!
O
It's
just
a
matter
of
how
quickly
and
how
how
most
over
for
23,
which
would
affect
our
our
24
Revenue
estimates.
You
know
it's
it's
in
the
four
percent
range.
C
O
So
the
the
calendar
year
that
ended
in
December
it
was
it
was
eight
percent,
plus
the
forecast
for
the
current
calendar
year
is
roughly
four
percent
plus
or
minus.
Oh.
O
So
obviously,
that's
had
an
impact
on
mortgage
rates,
and
mortgage
rates
remain
above
six
percent
they're
down
from
that
peak
of
seven
percent
I
think
most
forecasters
are
expecting
them
to
to
move
back
down
to
the
five
percent
range
over
the
next
year,
so,
but
that
obviously
has
an
impact
on
on
house
house
sales
and
house
prices,
so
some
indicators
on
in
terms
of
home
real
estate
activity.
These
charts
are
a
little
hard
to
to
process,
but
you
know
it
shows
the
change
over
the
counter
here.
O
Obviously
things
are
always
you
know
in
the
housing
market,
there's
always
seasonal,
so
this
is
a
way
to
kind
of
see
what's
happening
across
the
year.
The
red
line
is
last
year
2022
and
then
the
dark
gray
that
just
has
three
months
is
the
beginning
of
this
year.
So
I
would
focus
on
those
two
lines
compared
to
Prior
years.
O
So
in
terms
of
listings,
we're
down
you
know
below
where
we've
been
for
the
last
four
or
five
years,
you
know
I,
think
Northern
Rich
are
affecting
that
in
terms
of
people
are
moving
and
therefore
housing.
You
know
houses
aren't
going
on
the
market
at
the
same
rate.
O
In
terms
of
average
days
on
the
market.
You
can
see
the
red
line
for
the
first
half
of
last
year.
You
know
we
were
at
you
know
extremely
fast
in
terms
of
houses.
Turning
over
you
can
see.
The
red
line
has
crept
up
in
the
dirt
gray.
Now
you
know
we're
starting
to
Trend
up.
O
You
know
back
toward
historical
Norms,
but
but
things
are
still
moving
fast
when
they
do
hit
the
market,
so
all
of
that
affects
sales
again,
the
red
line
you
can
see
we're
down
and
the
Gray
Line.
We
continue
to
be
down.
O
You
know
from
prior
years
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
sales
that
affects
our
Revenue,
because
when
a
house
sells,
you
know
the
taxable
value
hops
up
to
the
assessed
value
and
factors
and
to
increase
Revenue
that
way
and
then,
in
terms
of
prices,
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
the
good
news
from
a
revenue
perspective.
At
least
you
know
the
red
line
and
the
Gray
Line
you
know,
prices
are
still
holding
you
know,
despite
the
higher
mortgage
rates.
O
You
know
because
of
that
constricted
Supply,
so
you
know
to
the
extent
houses
are
selling.
You
know
those
prices
are
still
quite
healthy.
O
You
know
a
quick
look
at
property
forfeitures.
You
know
we're
still
at
very
low
rates
here,
particularly
if
you
go
back
to
the
Great
Recession.
That's
you
know,
that's
in
part
due
to
to
the
federal
assistance.
That's
that's
available
out
there,
but
this
is
not
a
you
know.
A
headwind
network,
we're
too
worried
about
right
now
in
terms
of
the
impact
on
the
broader
Market.
P
O
Know
another
key
factor
in
terms
of
our
tax
base
is
how
much
new
construction
is
happening.
So
we
use
housing
permits
as
a
leading
indicator
of
you
know.
How
much
can
we
expect
to
be
added
to
the
tax
rules
over
the
next
year
or
two?
You
can
see
you
know
for
2020
and
2021.
You
know
sort
of
the
two
coveted
years
things
actually
held
up
quite
well
in
terms
of
of
housing
permits
in
the
county
for
22.
O
We
finally
saw
I
think
those
supply
chain
and
labor
issues
start
to
hit
a
decline
from
2000
to
about
1600
and
then
through
the
first
three
months
of
this
year,
which
is
just
the
blue
bars
we're
down
for
prior
years.
So
we
aren't
keeping
our
an
eye
on
that,
and
you
know
assuming
a
lower
level
of
new
construction,
going
forward
the
good
news
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
can
see
the
average
amount
for
each
housing
permit
by
county,
and
you
know
Oakland
is
kind
of
bucking.
O
The
trend
here
in
terms
of
you
know
an
88
000
increase
in
the
average
value
of
the
permit.
So
you
know
Perhaps
Perhaps,
not
the
best
thing
from
a
housing
policy
perspective,
but
from
a
revenue
perspective
you
know
the
the
houses
that
are
being
built
are
more
expensive,
yeah.
M
And
I
noticed
it
was
a
lot
about
single
family.
M
M
And
others
in
Lansing
are
trying
to
fund.
You
know
two
two
and
three
and
four
family
units,
and
you
know
I
see
it's
nice
that
we're
having
development
happen
because
I
wasn't
sure
anyone
was
building
anymore,
but
they're,
building,
single
family
and
a
lot
of
the
people
can't
even
buy
a
single
family
in
Oakland
County.
M
So,
just
as
we
continue
to
talk
to
developers
and
stuff
like
that,
like
just
really
trying
to
it's
about
zoning
I
heard
zoning
is
a
big
deal
but
encouraging
them
to
build
the
the
triplexes
again,
the
duplexes
again,
which
I
think
were
like
outlawed
in
the
80s
and
90s,
for
whatever
reason
so
I
like
that.
We're
building
but
I'm
scared
that
we're
building
single
family
by
and
large
across
the
county,
yep.
Q
Q
A
Charles
and
I
will
just
second
what
she's
poking
at
we've
talked
about
this
before.
We
really
do
need
to
start
thinking
of
a
strategy
here
in
the
county
to
encourage
developers
and
the
local
communities
to
take
this
on,
because
I
happen
to
live
in
a
community
where
building
is
going
on,
I,
see
houses
being
built
all
the
time,
but
they're
like
eight
hundred
thousand
dollar
homes,
and
that's
not
solving
the
problem
of
the
missing
middle,
so
yeah
I
do
think.
I
just
want
everybody
to.
O
Keep
that
going
on
top,
you
know,
I
know
you
know
within
the
arpa
context.
You
know
that
continues
to
be
a
key
to
consideration,
and
you
know
the
Housing
Trust
Fund,
that
the
board
is
freezing
and
becomes
in
the
process
of
standing
up
and
certainly
targeted
toward
that.
So
it's
all
good
not
lost
on
us,
so
key
uncertainties
going
forward.
Obviously,
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
these.
O
You
know
we
track
these
on
a
monthly
basis.
Michael
and
his
team
update
all
these
charts
and
even
more
of
them
on
a
monthly
basis
and
we're
tracking
them.
You
know
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
top
of
any
you
know
any
changes
that
affect
our
Revenue
going
for
so
in
terms
of
how
those
things
affect
property,
tax
values
and
revenue
estimates.
This
is
just
a
glossary
of
the
key
terms
for
your
reference.
O
We'll
talk
about
these
as
we
go
through
proposal,
a
I
think
everyone's
familiar,
but
it's
always
good
to
have
a
refresher
in
terms
of
you
know,
taxable
value
for
a
homeowner.
You
know
where
the
property
hasn't
changed.
Hands
can't
go
up
by
more
than
the
rate
of
inflation
from
the
previous
fiscal
year.
You
know
this
is
an
unusual
Year
we're
in
now,
because
inflation,
you
know,
was
at
that
eight
percent
Mark
last
year.
It's
been
capped
at
five
percent
in
terms
of
how
much
things
can
go
up.
O
So
you
know
that
that's
that's
the
first
time
that's
happened.
You
know,
since
proposal
a
was
implemented.
O
O
You
know
at
the
bottom
there
you
know
the
taxes
are
two
thousand
dollars
higher
for
the
house
that
has
has
been
sold
recently.
You
know
so
proposally
has
certainly
accomplished.
You
know,
I
think
what
it
was
intended
to
do
in
terms
of
predictability
for
the
taxpayer,
but
in
terms
of
our
tax
revenue.
Obviously
that
constrains
the
growth
that
we've
had
over
the
last
20
years.
O
So
last
meeting
Michael
was
here
to
talk
about
the
equalization
report,
so
this
is.
This
is
a
bit
of
a
rehash
of
that,
but
just
a
reminder
in
terms
of
what
our
tax
base
looks
like.
We
are
across
the
full
counties,
75
residential.
So
that's
why
we,
you
know
we
focus
mostly
on
those
residential
indicators,
but
the
commercial,
industrial
and
personal
is
is
significant
as
well.
So
we
are
tracking
that
I
didn't
include
slides
here.
Just
for
the
sake
of
time.
O
One
question
that
often
comes
up
is
what's
going
on
with
office
space.
You
know,
and
certainly
you
know,
there's
a
there's
weak
in
demand
for
office
space
I.
Think
the
the
recent
vacancy
rate
is
like
25,
but
it's
important
to
note
that
office
space
is
only
about
four
percent
of
the
total,
so
it
has
an
effect,
but
it's
not
a
key
driver
of
our
of
our
overall
numbers.
These
are
just
charts
from
the
equalization
reports
showing
how
taxable
the
value
growth
has
occurred
across
our
localities.
O
The
slightest
townships.
You
can
see
everybody's
at
least
six
percent,
because
basically
they
got
the
five
percent
growth
you
know
from
from
The
Proposal
a
cap
and
then
any
you
know
any
growth
from
housing
sales
and
new
constructions.
On
top
of
that
same
thing,
for
cities
at
the
very
bottom
there
you
can
see
that
the
growth
across
the
full
county
is
7.5,
which
is
the
highest
level
it's
been
since
proposally,
and
this
chart
shows
that
the
orange
bar
is
taxable
value
growth.
O
So
you
can
see
seven
and
a
half
percent
that
they're
in
there.
The
the
green
bar
is,
is
the
state
equalized
value
so
assessed
value
indoors?
You
can
see
that
you
know.
General
taxable
value
doesn't
go
off
as
fast
as
the
susp
value,
and
this
shows
that
Gap
that's
been
built
up
during
the
Great
Recession.
You
know
assessed
values
foul
with
the
housing
crash
and
assess
value
and
taxable
value
were
basically
the
same
number
for
the
county.
You
can
see
the
Gap
that's
grown
over
time
since
then.
O
This
is
taxable
value
additions
and
losses.
So
the
additions,
the
blue
bars,
are
basically
new
construction.
You
can
see
it
was
still
strong
growth
from
that
in
2022
and
2023,
but
we're
not
expecting
that
growth
to
be
as
as
high
in
future
years.
Based
on
that
housing
permit
data,
we
looked
at
the
Headley
amendment
is
the
second
key
thing
that
affects
our
tax
rate
and
our
Revenue.
O
You
know
in
in
a
year
where
our
growth
adjusted
for
additions
and
and
subtractions
exceeds
the
rate
of
inflation.
We
have
to
roll
back
our
tax
rate.
This
is
an
unusual
year
because
inflation
was
so
high,
we're
not
going
to
have
a
heavily
rollback
for
2023.
You
can
see
that
there,
so
the
tax
rate
of
3.9686
that
was
in
place
last
year
will
remain
the
tax
rate
for
2023,
but
then
going
forward.
You
know
we
expect
those
rollbacks
to
continue.
O
So
this
shows
you
our
property
tax
projections.
At
this
point
for
the
general
fund,
the
slightly
darker
shaded
line
is
2023,
so
that's
this
year
affecting
our
fiscal
year
2023
revenue
and
then
the
direct
group
mine,
is
you
know,
as
the
estimates
we'll
be
using
for
the
2024
budget,
you
can
see
in
the
far
right
the
column,
there's
that
seven
and
a
half
percent
growth
for
2023
because
of
the
taxable
value
growth,
and
how
have
we
rolled
back?
We're
still
expecting.
O
You
know
fairly
strong
growth
in
2024
or
five
percent,
but
then
we're
using
cautious
estimates
on
inflation
and
housing
sales
and
construction
going
forward.
So
we
fall
back
into
the
three
to
four
percent
range
and
the
years
following
that.
O
This
shows
you
how
that
translates
into
actual
revenue
and
that
going
back
to
the
beginning
of
proposal
Aid.
So
we
have
now
climbed
back
to
above
our
Peak
prior
to
the
Great
Recession
before
you
adjust
for
inflation.
When
you
adjust
for
inflation,
the
county
is
still
about
25
below
where
it
was
before
the
Great
Recession
in
terms
of
total
revenue,
the
so
to
kind
of
summarize
everything
I
just
went
through.
You
know
very
strong
taxable
value
growth
of
seven
and
a
half
for
2023.
O
For
the
reasons
we
discussed,
those
factors
increase
our
Revenue
estimates
by
about
4
million
for
the
current
year
by
about
six
million
dollars
for
future
years,
but
obviously
we
still
have
the
constraints
going
forward.
O
All
that
so
very
good
news
for
this
year.
We
we
just
don't
want
to
bank
on
or
expect
to
thank
you
to
use
yeah
so.
R
O
Focused
mostly
on
the
general
fund
today,
but
we
do
obviously
have
two
other
county-wide
millages
at
this
point.
So
these
are
the
estimates
for
the
parks,
millage
and
the
transportation
millage.
You
can
see
that
you
know
it's
the
same
path
in
terms
of
percentage
change.
You
know
it's
the
same
tax
base.
It's
just
lower
tax
rates.
Again
you
know
for
for
the
current
year
there
won't
be
heavily
rollbacks,
so
the
parks
millage
will
stay
at
3431
and
the
transit
millage
will
stay
at
the
original
0.9500.
O
But
then
we
see
the
Heavenly
rollbacks
for
those
as
well
going
forward
all
right.
So
let's
talk
a
bit
about
the
total
general
fund,
so
we
are
at
this
point
estimating
total
general
fund
revenue
for
fiscal
year,
2024
of
547
million
the
property.
The
property
tax
that
we
just
talked
about
is
well
over
half
of
that
at
56,
but
we
do
receive
Revenue
from
state
and
federal
sources.
That's
that's
primarily
State
sources
with
a
little
bit
of
federal
and
then
charges
for
services.
O
You
know
for
the
for
the
local
Patrol
contracts
that
the
sheriff's
office
has
and
and
other
services
that
the
county
provides
either
to
Residents
or
to
local
units,
and
then
some
transfers
in
from
other
sources
make
up
the
rest
of
it.
This
is
the
detail
on
all
of
those
sources
in
terms
of
what
we're
estimating
for
24,
25
and
26
compared
to
the
current
amounts
and
the
23
budget.
I
won't
go
through
those
in
details.
You'll
see
fairly
it's
fairly
moderate
growth
at
the
bottom
there.
O
As
you
know
all
of
our
sources,
our
other
sources
aren't
growing
at
the
same
rate
as
the
property
tax.
Just
to
highlight
a
few
key
things.
We
are
looking
at
three
healthy
increases
from
the
state
right
now
in
terms
of
Revenue
sharing,
we're
obviously
waiting
for
you
know
final
budget
action
of
the
state
level
for
now
we're
assuming
five
percent
ongoing,
which
is
the
lowest
of
the
three
versions
of
the
budget.
Right
now,
the
convention
facilities
Development
Fund
because
of
of
of
substantial
increases
in
liquor
sales.
O
Over
the
last
number
of
years
there
was
some
legislation
last
December
to
to
sort
of
rebase
that
and
redistribute
it.
You
know
both
for
for
a
convention
facility
purposes
in
Detroit,
but
then
also
the
distributions
that
go
out
to
the
counties
out
of
the
fund,
so
we're
looking
at
an
increase
of
4.6
million
dollars,
a
year
of
which,
just
under
a
million
will
will
be
passed
through
to
ochn
for
substance
abuse
treatment
which
requirement
on
the
statute
the
marijuana
tax.
You
know,
obviously,
with
the
growth
in
that
market.
O
That
number
is
now
up
to
just
over
a
million
dollars.
So
all
positive
news
there,
but
not
necessarily
news
we
can
expect
to
continue.
You
know
I
think
it's
a
jump
up
and
then
you
know
it
remains
to
be
seen
what
happens
with
those
sources
going
forward.
Charges
for
services,
the
estimates
and
the
county,
clerk
and
and
register
of
deeds
budget
are
coming
down
to
two
million
dollars
a
year.
O
That's
because
of
the
sources
in
her
budget
that
are
based
on
on
real
estate
activity
and
mortgage
activity
also
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
her
her.
You
know
her
collections,
it's
just
a
function
of
what's
Happening
out
there
in
the
real
estate
market,
with
lower
sales
and
lower,
you
know
lower
numbers
of
mortgages,
particularly
on
on
the
refinancing
side.
O
The
circuit
court
is
a
1.7
million
dollar
reduction.
The
bulk
of
that
is
from
the
Board
and
Care
policy
change
that
we
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting,
which
is
offset
by
reductions
and
positions
and
an
increase
in
stake
reimbursement,
so
that
was
not
unexpected
and
then
the
district
court
is
about
1.9
million
dollars
lower
in
terms
of
estimated
charges
for
services
because
of
lower
case
loads,
and
some
policy
changes,
state
level
and
then
investment
income.
O
One
positive
thing
about
the
increase
in
inflation
is
that
the
interest
rates
you
know
that
were
get
that
were
returning
on
our
cash
Investments
are
up
still,
you
know,
still
very
conservatively
invested,
obviously,
but
there
is
a
bump
there.
Let
me
just
pause
there
as
I've
talked
through
all
the
revenue
side
here
to
see.
If
there
are
any
questions.
K
O
Going
to
get
paid
all
right,
so
indirect
costs
are,
you
know
for
all
of
the
the
sort
of
central
service
departments
that
the
county
has
that
are
funded
by
general
fund,
so
that
would
include
you
know
fiscal
services
and
management
budget.
There's
a
calculation
done
each
year
to
say
well
how
much
did
all
the
other
departments
utilize
those
services?
So,
for
example,
how
much
did
the
Parks,
Commission
and
Department
utilize
our
Central
Services?
Then
there's
an
allocation.
O
C
A
All
right,
just
Mr,
lowmeyer's
point
about
25
of
the
office
spaces
vacant
right
now,
just
to
touch
back
on
that
subject
that
commissioner
Smith
Charles
brought
up.
A
Are
we
redo
talking
to
anybody
about
Redevelopment
of
some
of
these
or
organizations?
And
you
know
that's
not
a
discussion
for
this
necessarily,
but
it's
certainly
something
when
you're
out
in
the
world
talking
to
folks
we
yeah,
we
got
all
these
empty
buildings
and
homeless
people.
You
know
they
should
be
related
anyway.
Philosophically
that's
my
thing.
R
O
Mean
these
are
comparing
a
budgeted
amounts.
The
you
know,
the
revenue
collections
on
the
register
of
Need
side
have
been
well
in
Access
of
the
budgeted
amounts
the
last
several
years,
so
the
actual
decline
is
cheaper
than
what's
shown
here.
We
weren't
we
weren't
budgeting
for
that.
The
spike,
in
terms
of
you,
know
all
the
housing
sales
and
mortgage
refinancings
that
have
happened
over
the
last
few
years.
Yeah.
R
O
R
I
guess
I'm,
sorry
so
last
year,
is
this
a
one
percent
three
percent
five
percent
reduction,
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
read
these
are
the
two
million,
the
1.7
and
the
1.9.
Those
are
estimated
revenues
for
this
year.
I
guess:
how
does
that
compare
24.,
yeah
I
mean
it
I
mean
basically
it
says:
there's
two
million
reduction
due
to
right.
Is
it
a
two
million
reduction
or
is
it
the
estimate.
O
So,
what's
the
estimate
I
mean
that's
the
change
in
the
estimated
Revenue
included
in
the
budget?
Okay,
so
you
can
see
you
know
those
those
dollar
amounts
vary
in
terms
of
of
what
they
are
as
a
percentage.
So
the
county
clerk
Register
of
Deeds
have
a
total
total
estimated
revenue
for
the
current
year
of
18
million.
So
we're
bringing
that
down
by
like
11
percent.
O
All
right,
so
you
know
you're
going
to
hear
lots
more
about
the
budget
over
the
next
few
months,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
make
sure
we're
reframing
our
goals
for
the
budget
and
what
some
of
the
key
pressures
are.
You
know
so
you've
heard
the
good
news
on
the
revenue
side
now
I'm
going
to
give
you.
You
know
some
of
the
bad
news
that
we
have
to
account
for
on
this
miniature
side.
This
is
a
slide.
O
I
think
you've
seen
every
year,
you
know
Sun
State,
Coulter,
beginning
County
Executive
in
terms
of
what
our
goals
are
for
the
budget
each
year,
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
all
of
those,
but
you
know
just
highlighting
that
we
continue
to
to
be
on
track
and
keep
these
on
the
line
as
we're
building
their
budget,
including
you
know
the
goal
of
being
structurally
balanced
with
each
about
the
budget
that
our
ongoing
expenditures,
it's
a
little,
don't
don't
exceed
our
ongoing
revenues,
so
I
won't
read
everything
there.
O
It's
my
favorite
vegan,
these
two
slides
are
my
favorite
songs,
but
I'm
not
sure
it's
true
for
everyone.
You
know
this
is
the
plan
that
we
adopted
with
last
year's
budget,
with
your
help
where
we,
you
know,
for
the
first
time
in
recent
history,
we're
structurally
balanced
and
the
budget
that
was
adopted
by
the
board.
We
had
503
million
dollars
in
estimated
revenues
and
530
million
dollars
an
estimated
ongoing
expenditures.
You
see
in
future
years.
O
You
know
we
start
to
show
fairly
small
surpluses,
but
a
surplus
to
have
a
certainly
better
than
shortfall,
and
these
numbers
will
be
adjusted.
You
know
for
the
revenue
estimates
that
you
just
saw.
O
So,
in
terms
of
our
general
fund
balance,
our
annual
comprehensive
financial
report
was
just
released
on
Friday.
That's
on
our
website.
For
anyone
who
wants
to
take
a
look
at
it.
O
You
know
our
fund
balance
to
close
out
fiscal
year.
2022
is
at
220.8
million
dollars.
That
is
down
68
million
dollars
from
2021,
which
is
obviously
a
substantial
decline,
but
it's
a
little
misleading
for
the
two
reasons
you
know
indicated
there.
One
is
that
the
rafaeli
you
know
the
cost
of
of
of
of
settling
the
rafaeli
related
costs
where
we
have
been
reserving
funds
within
the
fund
balance
specifically
for
that,
so
42
million
dollars
of
of
that
decline
was
for
that
purpose
and
then,
secondly,
there's
almost
a
24
million
dollar
decline.
O
That's
really
just
a
paper
loss
so,
and
we
could
talk
at
length
about
this
too,
but
our
cash
Investments
when
interest
rates
spiked
up,
you
know
we
have
to
under
accounting
standards,
Mark
the
value
of
our
investments
to
the
market
value.
So
if
you
were
trying
to
sell
those
Investments
right
now,
how
much
would
they
be
worth
and
we
had
to
account
both
for
the
general
fund
and
for
the
arpa
funds
we
hold
what
that
loss
is
now
the
reality.
O
Is
we're
not
trying
to
sell
those
Investments
right
now
the
treasurer
is
going
to
hold
those
Investments
to
maturity,
and
if
they
were,
you
know
going
to
earn
a
one
percent
interest
rate
we'll
get
the
one
percent
back
on
the
background,
so
that
24
million
dollar
loss
over
the
next
two
to
three
years
will
be
regained
in
the
fund
balance.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
accounting
transactions,
so
I
hope
that
makes
sense.
O
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
even
at
that
220.8
million
dollars,
you
know
our
fund
balance
is
still
equal
to
44
of
our
ongoing
general
fund
budget.
So
that's
well
above
our
Target
level
of
30
percent.
O
This
this
church
shows
you
how
that
228
point
million
dollars
is
allocated
through
fund
balance
assignments,
we'll
we'll
be
bringing
to
you
with.
The
second
quarter
forecast
some
adjustments
to
True
these
up,
but
this
is
what
we're
going
to
be
suggesting
to
you.
O
You
know
key
is:
is
the
budget
stabilization
Reserve,
which
is
you
know
under
the
policy
that
was
adopted
two
years
ago?
Is
that
25
of
our
annual
budget?
So
that's
125.5
million
dollars.
The
fund
balance
says
we're
not
going
to
touch
that
under
any
circumstances,
unless
revenue
is
fall
significantly
in
some
future
years
and
then
25
million
dollars
for
the
non-economic
risks.
You
know
you
know,
sort
of
the
the
unknown
unknowns
and
that
gets
us
to
the
30
percent
Target
level.
O
So
why
don't
you
account
for
those
things
and
the
other
smaller
things
listed
here?
That
really
only
leaves
32
million
dollars
bottom
line
that
we
could
consider
spending
on
some
future
investment.
You
know
it
would
need
to
be
a
one-time
investment
and
it
would
be
you
know
it
wouldn't
need
to
be
something
with
long-term,
rich
or
not.
An
investment
for
the
county.
O
The
AAA
Bond
rating,
you
know,
is
something
we
continue
to
to
focus
on
as
an
outside
evaluation
of
our
financial
strength
and
our
financial
policies
and
processes.
Last
April,
you
know
the
the
policy
was
reaffirmed
s
p
in
particular,
you
know
sort
of
highlighted
these
changes
while
making
the
budget
process
to
make
it
more
transparent
and
ensure
structural
balance.
We
don't
have
a
need.
Currently,
you
know
to
borrow
and
get
a
rating.
O
We
did
meet
with
the
rating
agencies
last
month,
just
to
keep
them
updated
on
everything,
that's
going
on
and
make
sure
we
have
open
lines
of
communication
with
all
these
things.
So
you
know
some
of
the
key
budget
pressures
that
we're
going
to
have
to
account
for
in
the
budget
and
keep
our
eye
on
as
we
move
forward
employee
compensation.
Obviously
that's
the
largest
category
of
expenditures
in
the
budget.
We
have
a
plan
to
three
percent
General
salary
increase
for
the
upcoming
year.
O
That
creates
a
general
fund
cost
of
about
9
million
health
care
costs
continue
to
rise.
You
know,
the
administration,
with
your
assistance,
has,
has
put
some
some
measures
in
place
to
try
to
reduce
those
costs,
but
just
the
national
Trends.
As
we
come
out
of
the
pandemic
or
projecting
growth
of
seven
percent
a
year,
we
have
a
series
of
costs,
sort
of
traded
by
covid
in
terms
of
of
services
that
that
jail
trustees
were
providing
that
we
no
longer
have
the
capacity
to
provide
that
we're.
O
You
know
we're
doing
through
contractual
purposes
or
or
County
Employees.
That's
about
three
million
dollars
a
year
that
we're
going
to
have
to
start
phasing
in
into
the
general
fund
budget.
It
is
always
you
know,
a
growth
area
for
any
larger
organization,
legal
risks.
I
think
everyone's
aware,
you
know
that
the
county
has
been
served
with
multiple
Federal
lawsuits
for
for
folks
whose
convictions
have
been
reversed.
O
You
know
so
so.
Court
Council
obviously
is
working
with
outside
Counsel
on
those
cases.
But
if
you
leave
National
stories,
those
cases
can,
depending
on
how
they
play
out,
have
significant
price
tags
and
then
and
then
facilities
and
I.
Think
everyone
had
the
chance
to
hear
this
presentation.
So
I
just
put
these
slides
in
as
a
reminder,
but
in
terms
of
the
outside
assessment
that
was
done
by
plant
Moran,
they
did
come
up
with
a
total
of
864
million
dollars
in
potential
spending
over
10
years.
O
That
includes
550
million
dollars
for
sort
of
non-discretionary
things,
so
roofs
parking
lots,
HVAC
systems
and
then
over
300
million.
For
you
know,
various
discretionary
facility
projects
that
County
leaders
are
interested
in
so
that
you
know
continues
to
be
a
focus
in
terms
of
prioritize
saying
you
know
what's
most
important
from
an
operational
standpoint,
you
know
which
things
fit
into
a
long-term
plan,
accounting
for
for
land
use
and
remote
work
and
reducing
long-term
energy
costs
just
for
discussion
purposes
again
as
a
rule
of
thumb
for
every
100
million
dollars.
O
All
right
on
the
last
slide
is
just
the
calendar
with
some
key
dates
with
the
bolded.
You
know
lines
being
what
we're
driving
toward
within
the
administration
to
get
you
a
recommended
budget
in
July,
and
let
you
go
over
with
your
process
from
there.
K
Is
it
with
the
building
the
the
building
project?
Are
we
looking
to
you
can
answer
this
to
a
chair?
Aren't
we
looking
to
eventually
probably
real
estate,
some
of
this
stuff
like
sell
it
like?
If
we
can,
are
we
looking
for
that,
based
on
how
our
workers
may
be
using
our
buildings
now
like?
If
we
need
them
or
so,
are
we
considering
any
real
estate
with
them?
I
just
wanted
to
know.
R
Obviously,
if
there's
space,
that's
not
being
used
that
could
be
sold
to
another
entity
that
helps
fund
this
800
million
dollar.
Your
billion
dollar
line
item.
K
O
Just
want
to
know
something
we're
still
very
early
I.
Think
in
terms
of
being
able
to
talk
about
selling
property,
but
I
mean
front
of
mind
is
how
do
we
reduce
our
footprint?
How
do
we
reduce
energy
cost?
Let's
make
sure
we're
not
spending
money
on
buildings
that
we
don't
expect
to
be
using
to
10
years
from
now.
K
What
do
we
do?
Well,
I,
just
apple.
Is
the
question
just
to
see
where
we're
at
with
things
as
far
as
looking
into
this
like
starting
to
have
these
discussions
as
to
what
buildings
will
we
use?
You
know,
based
on
our
Workforce
capacity,
is
its
buildings.
We
don't
need
anymore,
like
it's
not
saying
you
all
have
like.
Yes,
that's
what
we're
gonna
do.
Just
is
it
in
the
discussion?
Is
it
something
we're
looking
at
that's
an
option?
Okay,
absolutely.
That
was
a
simple
there.
We
go
okay,
you
can
expand
if
you
want,
but.
A
Yes,
yeah
put
your
friend
down.
Let's.
S
Hear
from
you
so
I
mean
we
have
you
know:
we've
been
working
as
Kyle
mentioned,
with
planned
very
interested.
They
helped
us
evaluate
all
of
our
spaces
now
with
all
the
Departments
to
determine
like
what
their
needs
are
now
in
today's
world,
right
with
the
the
option
in
some
locations
to
work
remotely,
and
so
we
we
have
that
information,
as
Kyle
mentioned.
We
also
are
looking
at
you
know,
close
to
a
billion
dollars
worth
of
I
won't
say
needs,
because
some
of
that
is
discretionary,
but
there's
a
lot
of
non-discretionary
stuff.
S
So
we're
simply
in
the
process
of
just
trying
to
prioritize
that
and
through
that
process
you
know,
some
departments
may
move
around
those
that
can
reduce
space
and
that
will
help
us
determine
like
if
there
is
a
building
or
two
that
we
might
be
able
to
take
offline.
S
A
A
I
mean
lessons
you're
learning
doing
this
you're
going
to
be
able
to
share
with
other
municipalities
and
so
on,
because,
if
we're
going
to
address
climate
change,
this
is
a
big
piece
of
it
and
it's
not
an
easy
thing
to
tackle
and
I
really
appreciate
that
you
have
taken
this
on
and
our
serious
about
it
and
making
progress
800
and
some
million
dollars
isn't
very
pretty
but
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
J
O
We
continue
to
be
rated
at
the
AAA
level.
You
know
you
know
unless
you
know
until
we
would
ask
for
a
new
rating,
and
certainly
our
goal
and
expectation
is
that
we'll
continue
to
maintain
that
triple
A,
but
but
nothing
more
formally.
A
A
O
Couldn't
handle
this
one
as
well,
so
this
resolution
authorizes
the
levy
of
the
tax
rates
that
we
just
talked
about
for
the
general
fund,
the
parks
fund
and
the
transit
fund.
As
I
just
mentioned,
those
tax
Freights
remain
on
genes
from
the
2022.
O
A
You
so
the
next
three
items
all
fall
in
the
category
of
special
projects,
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
take
them
all
together.
Anybody
have
a
reason
we
shouldn't.
Okay,
let's
take
items
f,
g
and
H
together.
I'll
take
a
motion
from
somebody
h.
A
Supported
by
population
commissioner
Woodward,
okay,
so
are
there
any
comments
or
questions
on
these
three
items,
commissioner
Roman?
So.
E
I
brought
up
in
caucus
last
week
or
two
weeks
ago.
You
know
I
I'd,
just
like
for
there
to
be
some
guidelines
about
kind
of
how
we're
using
these
funds.
I
know
they
are
discretionary
for
kind
of
special
projects.
Things
like
that
I,
don't
know
currently
what
exists
I've
kind
of
poked
around
and
from
my
understanding
that
there
is
not
maybe
a
whole
lot
of
definition.
As
far
as
what
we're
doing
so
I
guess
that
may
be.
E
The
one
thing
that
you
know
I
would
I
would
encourage,
is
important
that
maybe
you
should
come
up
with
some
guidelines
to
delineate
how
we
want
to
use
this,
because
I
could
very
easily
see
this
becoming
every
commissioner
trying
to
pull
their
five
ten
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
do
something
in
their
neck
of
the
woods
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
really
the
design
of
these
funds
or
again
I,
don't
know
enough
about
it,
but
that's
just
kind
of
my
outside
perspective.
Looking.
U
Hello,
everyone
Mike
keys
with
the
boc
team
and
obviously
commissioner
Ramen
I,
had
sent
that
over
to
you.
Last
year,
the
finance
committee
did
adopt
a
loose
set
of
guidelines
on
what
the
projects
should
be
and
how
they
should
be
brought
to
the
committee.
The
way
that
it
works
is
a
commissioner
goes
ahead
and
fills
out.
The
special
project
request
form
we
take
that
information
and
with
commissioner
Markham
sometimes
have
to
create
a
work
group
to
find
out
if
it's
something
we're
actually
allowed
to
do
within
the
authority
of
the
county
other
times.
A
I
think
that's
a
good
ongoing
conversation,
because
when
I
got
out
of
the
board,
there
was
none
of
that,
and
so
now
we're
iterating
it
so
that
it
does
make
more
sense.
I
I
understand
this
in
kind
of
two
buckets
one
is
the
one
like
the
bocce
tournaments
and
the
kite
festivals
and
so
on,
which
are
sponsorships
of
local
events
in
our
communities
and
they're
generally
between
five
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
kind
of
things,
and
we
do
it
every
year.
Okay,
and
that's
one
aspect
of
it.
A
A
second
aspect
of
it
is
if
a
commissioner
comes
with
a
project
that
is
kind
of
a
one-time
deal
out
there
again
we
try
and
keep
the
dollar
figure
relatively
small,
but
we
also
are
looking
for
Partnerships
with.
Q
A
We
don't
just
want
to
throw
money
from
the
commission
out
into
the
community
without
some
sense
of
you
know
who's
working
with
us
on
all
of
this,
so
those
are
really
the
two
general
buckets
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
chair,
but
that's
generally
the
two
different
ways
we
look
at
these,
and
sometimes
we
might
bring
a
special
project,
especially
if
it's
a
little
more
expensive.
It
actually
ends
up
getting
diverted
to
a
different
way
to
pay
for
it.
A
E
E
Are
we
looking
for
things
sort
of
on
that
more
of
a
global
scale,
or
is
it
more
for
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
because
my
community
has
approached
me
and
say:
hey
look,
we're
doing
a
summer
concert
series,
you
know:
can
you
picking
money
for
that
or
we're
doing
a
Fourth
of
July
parade?
Can
you
take
your
money
from
that?
Just
at
least
for
me,
clarification
on
whether
we
want
to
do
these
as
smaller
projects
or
bigger
ones
or
maybe
a
foundation
of
both.
K
So
let
me
say
this:
if
you
get
approached
on
anything
that
you
think
is
worthy.
As
your
commissioner
say,
you
know
what
I
want
to
help
in
this
space
and
see
bring
it
forth.
All
the
Commissioners
can
do
is
say
yes
or
no,
and
it's
first
come
first
serve
so
the
quicker
you
know,
submit
it
and
then
but
I
can
say,
graciously
we've
all
worked
together
and
most
of
our
projects,
we
figure
it
out
right
and
and
I.
K
Think
too,
from
a
budgetary
standpoint,
because
some
of
the
stuff
is
automatic
every
year
we
know
certain
things
like
Arts
Beats
and
the
kites
like
somebody's,
been
on
here
for
so
many
years
that
it's
already
kind
of
embedded
right.
E
R
So
I
I
guess
I
mean
I.
I
want
to
I
mean
I
answer
this
at
a
high
level
and
I've
talked
to
I
mean
chair
about
this
and
I've
also
talked
to
the
executive
office
in
terms
of
like
how
do
we
show
up
for
our
sponsorship,
because
I
mean
everything
in
the
world
to
your
point,
commissioner?
Rather
than
that
I
mean
there's
a
finite
number
of
these
resources,
and
so
for
the
next
budget
process.
R
I
mean
like
something
for
the
finance
committee
to
consider
is
like,
on
the
sponsorship
side,
that
we
break
out
like
a
sponsorship
line
item,
and
then,
let's
figure
figure
this
out
sponsoring
every
firework
show
that
happens
across
Oakland
County,
we'll
complete
that
in
a
second
it'll
be
done,
and
so
I
think
it
is
important
to
be
strategic.
R
R
So
that's
one
thing
on
the
on
the
special
projects.
This
is
one
that
I
mean
I
mean
I
will
impress
everyone
to
like.
What's
the
sustainability
of
this,
what's
the
how
much
additional
dollars
can
we
leverage
if
it's?
If
we
have
a
pot
of
money,
this
big
and
we
have?
We
have
two
choices
which
one
gives
the
biggest
impact.
R
We've
got
to
figure
that
out
I
mean
together
I
genuinely
they
try
to
push
us
to
think
of
like
big
things
that
are
sustainable,
that
help
the
most
people,
and
sometimes
it's
going
to
be
a
small
thing.
That's
getting
hitting
addressing
a
very
acute
problem
today,
recognizing
that
the
special
practice
cannot
be
an
ongoing
thing.
So
the
drinking
water
is
a
great
the
water
stations
which
we
did
it
we're
the
first
County
to
do
it
county-wide.
R
It's
now,
there's
funding
in
the
state
budget.
That's
going
to
do
with
the
rest
of
the
state.
It
was
good
public
policy,
we
proved
it,
it
works,
they
didn't
pay
for
hours,
but
it
was
I
mean,
but
we
also
didn't
have
to
wait
10
years
and
I
think
that's
a
good
example,
and
it
came
in
phases.
It
was
first
I
mean
we
I
mean
we
had
a
certain
amount
of
money,
but
this
wasn't
a
special
project
per
se.
This
or
something
I
mean
we
took
fund
balance.
R
It
was
like
a
half
million
dollars
to
start
and
we
tried
to
figure
out
how
to
stretch
it
as
far
as
possible.
That
was
basically
the
middle
schools
and
the
high
schools,
and
then
excuse
me
the
elementaries,
and
then
we
realized
well.
We
can
go
all
the
way
with
another
half
a
million
dollars,
and
we
did
that
like
the
preceding
year
or
a
year
and
a
half
whatever
the
distance
was
so
you're
asking
very
good
questions,
I
think
about
I
think
we
should
all
push
ourselves
to
be
strategic
in
how
we
do
these
things.
R
I
hope
that
was
a
great
place
and
there's
a
lot
of
great
events
and
I
think
we
should
be
lifting
those
up
and
create
those
events
and
and
and
Commissioners
should
partake
in
them
to
be
there
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
the
the
diversity
of
this
County
and
it
has
to
do
it
being
fit
within
the
confines
of
our
budget.
So
once
we
start
like
reaching
that
limit,
then
there's
harder
decisions
to
be
made
and
and
questions
I
mean
Andrew's
heard
me.
R
They
think
who's
this
helping,
how
many
people
what's
the
scale.
What's
the
ongoing
sustainability?
Is
this
a
one
and
done,
or
is
this
something
we're
going
to
be
banking
on
for
a
long
period
of
time?
Then
we
need
to
think
about
it,
which
is
why
I
think,
because
we
had
like
the
sponsorship
kind
of
strategy
and
then
these
other
more
Project
based
strategy
that
breaking
up
from
a
line
item.
It
allows
actually
for
a
little
bit
better
planning
like
what
are
we
planning
to
do
this
term,
but
does
this
make
sense?
Are
we
good
great?
V
K
Powell,
and
also
to
is
that,
like,
for
example,
one
is
going
to
come
up
from
the
holiday
Extravaganza
parade
I
just
submitted
it
it
crossed
forced
is,
is
Waterford,
Arbor,
Hills,
Pontiac
and
I.
Think
White,
Lake
and
they've
been
going
40
years,
so
I
always
try
to
look
at
how
long
they've
been
going
and
now
they've
ran
into
so
I'm,
like
okay
they've
been
over
40
years.
It's
a
wonderful
event.
I
am
a
part
of
it.
I
love
it,
and
so
yes,
this
is
something
and
then
I
know
my
counter.
K
Commission
I
mean
my
kind
of
colleagues
were
also
supported
as
well.
So
I
looked
at
the
longevity
of
it
and
oh
my
God,
they
need
a
need.
We
need
to
keep
supporting
them
to
try
to
go
forward
so
I'm
hoping
my
Commissioners
agreed
to
support
it.
So
that
was
just
how
I
looked
at
that
one
as
that
parade
is
going
in
our
several.
E
Districts
so
I
guess
like
question
my
take
home
from
all
of
this.
Is
you
know
my
communities
have
approached
me
to
say:
hey
look
here.
Are
the
small
projects
we're
doing
as
well
so
kind
of
along
the
lines
of
Fourth
of
July
or
parade,
or
something
concert
series
and
again,
maybe
I'm,
still
walking
away,
not
entirely
sure
whether
or
not
to
go
back
to
them
and
say?
Yes,
we
can
do
it.
No,
we
can't
I.
K
R
On
that
man,
I
think
that
this
is
like
this
committee
and
the
board
as
a
whole
is
like,
when
you
add
all
that
up
together.
This
is
like
a
fair
distribution
of
resources
that
we're
creating
these
experiences
that,
in
all
different
parts
of
the
county,
a
variety
addressing
the
needs
of
like
all
different
constituencies.
Those
are
I
mean
that's
the
right
way
to
think
about
it
and
it's
it's
a
mix
of
Art
and
Science.
It's
like
I
I.
When
that
policy
was
being
developed.
R
It
didn't
want
to
be
too
restrictive
that
didn't
let
creativity
and
things
that
could
be
a
really
good
benefit,
because
all
these
things
are
good.
You
can't
fund
them.
All.
Choices
have
to
be
made.
Some
public
leaders
don't
like
to
say
no
I
don't
have
that
problem,
but
it's,
but
so
I
I
get
the
delicate
nature
of
it.
That's
why
I
mean
I
think
it's
really
important,
as
Andrew
said,
do
not
override
commit
because
then
you're
like
stuck.
R
We
have
to
do
this
and
then
it's
and
then
we
it
it's
been
a
deliberative
process
made
and
open
around
this
table
and
we'll
try
some
things.
We
might
do
it
this
year
not
next
year
and
that
I
think
actually
will
be
better
to
like
kind
of
look
at
sponsorship
and,
like
you
think,
planning
perspective
like
okay,
you
know
if
they
allocate
all
the
dollars.
What
are
we
thinking
about
and
then
do
things
have
to
be
moved
around
to
address
that
going.
A
A
Commission
carries
next
up.
We
have
item
nine
legislative
affairs
and
government
operations
committee
recommendations.
Item
9A
is
establishment
of
the
Oakland
County
Acorn
two
Oak
youth
mini
grant
program.
You
need
a
motion.
X
I
have
with
me
today,
Susan
Holiday,
from
from
leadership
Oakland,
which
we'll
talk
about.
Why
she's
here
in
just
a
minute,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
come.
Talk
to
you
about
the
acorn
to
Oak
program
which
which
the
county
executive
announced
in
the
state
of
the
county
just
a
few
weeks
ago.
X
So
this
program
was
really
inspired
by
the
young
people
in
Oakland
County,
some
of
whose
stories
we
told
that
night
and
it's
intended
to
provide
mini
grants
up
to
a
thousand
dollars
for
young
people,
ages,
8
to
18.,
so
that
kids
can
pursue,
as
the
county
executive
said,
their
passions,
their
talents
and
their
dreams.
So
you
think
about
this
a
little
bit
these
these
grants
would
help
young
people
pay
for
one-time
expenses
related
to
educational,
entrepreneurial,
creative
ideas
or
opportunities.
X
Some
examples
could
include
seed
money
for
a
non-profit
or
a
business
Endeavor
funding
to
participate
in
like
a
national
competition
or
needed
equipment
to
participate
in
an
extra
extracurricular
activity.
So
this
resolution
that
you're
considering
today
proposes
that
the
grant
be
housed
at
leadership,
Oakland
and
profit,
who
I
think
probably
everybody
here
is
pretty
familiar
with.
X
So
many
of
our
County
employees
have
been
have
been
part
of
the
program,
so
I
asked
Susan
holiday
to
come
here
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
leadership
Oakland,
why
it's
the
right
partner
or
why
they're
the
right
partner
to
have
and
administering
this
program
so
Susan.
You
want
to
say
a
few.
B
Words
good
afternoon
I'm
Susan
holiday
I
am
the
executive
director
for
leadership.
Oakland
I've
been
with
them
for
11
years.
We
are
a
non-profit
organization
located
in
pontia
and
we
have
two
programs
that
we
offer.
One
is
a
nine
month
leadership
program
for
Professionals
in
Oakland
County.
We
have
50
individuals
every
year
go
through
this
program.
We
have
1500
alumni
in
the
county
that
have
participated
in
that
program.
We
also
have
a
junior
leadership
Oakland
program.
B
It's
a
three-day
Workshop
that
we
do
for
all
high
school
kids,
so
any
high
school
student
in
the
county
or
even
in
the
region,
can
apply
to
this
three
free
day.
It's
three
days.
It's
a
free
workshop
for
them.
We
are
doing
this
for
our
15th
year.
This
year
we
get
typically
40
students
from
about
20
different
schools
in
the
county
that
we
bring
together
for
that
Workshop.
So
we
have
already
been
working
with
the
school
districts.
B
We
have
a
great
relationship
with
Oakland
schools,
with
the
superintendents,
with
the
counselors
to
get
our
word
out
to
recruit.
Students
for
this,
so
tying
in
this
Acorn
to
Oat
program
is
a
natural
fit
for
us.
We've
got
the
relationships
to
do
the
marketing
side
of
it,
and
then
we
also
have
the
application
process
and
he's
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
structure
of
what
those
the
committee
will
look
like
to
identify.
Does
this
person
who
applied?
Does
it
fit
the
criteria
and
then
vote
on?
How
much
should
we
administer
to
that?
B
So
again,
we've
been
around
this?
Is
our
34th
year
located
in
Pontiac
I've,
taken
it
to
my
board
of
directors
and
have
full
commitment
from
our
board
to
really
help
our
young
youth
in
this
County
and
so
I'm
super
excited.
I'll.
Give
you
one
example
about
a
a
young
lady
who
went
through
our
Junior
leadership
Oakland
program.
She
was
a
junior
in
high
school
and
the
next
year.
She
started
her
own
cupcake
business
and
we
actually
hired
her
to
come
to
our
annual
event
and
to
serve
her
cupcakes.
So
it's
it's.
It's
stories
like
that.
B
X
And
so
I
would
just
pick
up
there.
As
Susan
said,
this
resolution
would
create
a
steering
committee
for
the
program
with
two
appointees
of
the
county
executive
and
two
by
the
chair
of
the
board.
Among
the
things
that
that
the
steering
committee
would
do,
as
Susan
mentioned
too
would
be
to
eval
of
help
with
marketing
evaluate
the
applications
that
we
get
for
Grants.
We
initially
envisioned
that
committee
helping
to
determine
the
scope
of
the
grants
too
right.
What
kinds
of
things
very
specifically
would
be
eligible
and
what
kinds
of
things
would
not?
X
There
was
a
discussion
at
Milago
yesterday
there
was
an
interest
among
some
members
of
the
committee
who
would
like
to
actually
have
more
details
about
what
that
scope
could
be
in
advance
of
the
full
board
meeting
next
Thursday.
So
the
chairman
Woodward
asked
the
administration
if
we
could
provide
a
one-page
document
with
that
information
for
you,
which
we
will
do
for
the
board
no
later
than
Monday
and
frankly,
it
could
well.
We
could
well
have
that
to
you
in
the
next
day
or
two,
but
before
the
end
of
the
week.
X
R
Yeah
and
just
that
last
point
that
I
want
to
point
is
like
once
that
that
scope
is
there
we
would
amend
and
give
this
advances
to
the
full
board.
We
would
be
an
attachment
to
the
resolution
that
would
be
the
scope,
that's
used
by
this
oversight
committee,
this
Advisory
Group
to
vet
applications
and
requests
for
the
mini
grants
and
and
then
there
will
be
a
regular
report
too.
Probably
things
report
too
long
ago.
K
Commissioner
Powell,
what
is
the
launch
time
of
this
when
do
y'all
plan
to
like
really
start
kicking
it
off?
Having
people
apply,
I
got
a
two-part,
but
that's
my
first
question.
X
K
K
K-12
have
to
be
in
high
school,
because
18
year
olds
are
graduating
as
seniors
and
going
to
college,
so
they
may
still
be
pursuing
their
business
or
entrepreneur.
Whatever
will
this
be
something
for
them
at
least
because
y'all
say
18.
X
K
X
And
remember,
this
is
competitive
right,
so
you
know,
there's
gonna
be
there's
a
certain
amount
of
money.
We
really
hope
that
this
is
as
successful
as
we
think
this
is
going
to
be
we're
going
to
get
a
ton
of
applications,
and
so
you
know
the
committee
that
is
kind
of
scoring
making
decisions
awards
are
going
to
have
to
take
all
kinds
of
things
into
account
to
make
those
decisions.
X
X
W
K
X
Right
but
250
at
a
thousand
I
mean
if
we
have
people
who
need
500
to
get
some
equipment
to.
You
know
to
start
a
cupcake
business
and
what
they
need
are
more
pans,
and
things
like
that
right
I
mean
so
it
could
go
beyond
250
people
when
the
money
runs
out
the
money,
Runs
Out
and
it's
just
a
rolling
time.
K
Powell,
where
are
them
funds
coming
from
the
2450?
Where
would
it
be
coming
from
yeah
from.
R
The
ideas
are
actually
a
really
good
point,
because
I
mean
at
least
in
terms
of
forecasting
and
I
think
the
idea
is.
Hopefully
this
is
a
sustainable
program
on
the
situation
where
Revenue
funds
state
revenue
funds
drop,
then
there's
a
job
command
that
it's
that's
where
the
revenue
ship
comes.
There
may
be
an
adjustment,
a
reduction
to
deal
with
the
economic
reality
at
the
time.
B
A
Okay,
anybody
else,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
I
think
you
touched
on
a
chair
and
that
is
you're.
Expecting
this
to
happen
every
year,
correct
and
it'll
be
coming
out
of
the
revenue
sharing
piece
of
the
budget
every
year.
So
this
is
not
a
one-off.
A
My
other
question
is:
is
participation,
income
based
because
I
heard
you
make
I
listened
in
on
the
Lago
meeting
yesterday
and
I
heard
you
talk
about
a
musical
instrument,
for
example,
as
somebody
who
I
have
music
people
in
my
family
too,
but
you
know
when
I
was
buying
a
musical
instrument
20
years
ago
it
was
600
for
a
clarinet
or
something
okay,
so
I
could
afford
that
the
kids
sitting.
Next
to
my
kid,
maybe
couldn't
would
both
of
those
kids
be
able
to
apply
for
this
or
you
know.
A
A
X
A
Of
days,
because
I
think
the
income
aspect
of
it
is
kind
of
important
when
you're
in
a
community
where
there's
some
communities,
there's
not
a
lot
of
money
among
the
population
but
in
other
communities.
There's
people
with
a
lot
of
money
and
there's
people
with
like
not
very
much,
and
if
this
is
help
those
young
people
who
Maybe
you
know
their
parents
can't
kick
in
a
little
of
this
or
a
little
of
that
to
get
them
started.
X
Well
and
I
do
think
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
the
this
committee
can
come
up
with,
while
we
could
I
think
the
intention
here
is
to
provide
you
know,
guidelines
around
the
kinds
of
things
that
would
be
eligible
and
the
kinds
of
things
that
would
not
be
eligible
but
give
them
the
committee
some
discretion
to
decide
how
they
want
to
make
Awards
within
those
guidelines
right.
So
you
know
again
if
this
is.
X
If
this
program
is,
as
you
know,
popular
as
we
hope
it
will
be,
and
we
will
and
we'll
get
enough
so
we'll
get
a
number
of
applications,
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
the
committee
could
decide
that's
something
they
would
consider
and
I
think
one
of
the
points
that
we
made
in
the
the
cover
memo
for
this
is
that
just
are
in
the
resolution
in
general.
Is
that
mini
grants
like
this
are
ways
and
other
and
other
programs
to
try
to
address
inequalities
where
they
exist,
so
I
mean
I.
X
Think
we
need
to
allow
for
that.
I,
wouldn't
necessarily
suggest
that
we
require
that
for
everything
across
the
board
necessarily,
but
that
would
be
something
that
could
be
allowed.
Maybe
that's.
X
Somebody,
but
that
is
you
know
this
committee,
which
would
have
a
couple
representative
representatives
from
forward
and
a
couple
from
the
county
executive
working
in
conjunction
with
leaders
of
Oakland
I
mean
I.
Think
they
can,
you
know,
give
them
those
kinds
of
instructions
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
they're
scoring.
If
that
makes.
A
Z
You
thank
you,
so
just
a
reminder
or
or
not,
if
you
don't,
you
never
heard
this
before
so
re-monumentation.
First
of
all,
the
money
comes
from
recordings
in
the
Register
of
Deeds
office.
Four
dollars
is
put
aside
and
sent
to
the
state
to
a
big
pot
of
money,
and
then
the
state
puts
out
these
grants.
So
we
are
a
donor.
County
we're
getting
our
money
back
and
remind
invitation
is
for
our
surveyors.
If
you
ever
see
on
the
ground
a
round
metal.
Z
Thing,
that's
the
monumentation
in
the
ground
to
say
like
this
is
a
corner
or
whatever,
and
it's
just
to
keep
sure
that
our
lines
are
because
they
sometimes
move
over
time.
Z
Sometimes
they
get
ruined,
sometimes
they're
in
the
middle
of
a
road
and
the
snowplow
will
ruin
them
so,
starting
last
year
we
entered
maintenance
phase,
so
we
get
a
little
bit
less
than
we
got
all
those
previous
years.
This
year
is
actually
more,
though
than
last
year
so
and
our
surveyors
are
starting
their
maintenance
at
the
in
the
northern
part
of
the
county,
so
they
kind
of
go
Township
by
Township
and
check
and
make
sure
that
everything
that
the
monuments
are
there
in
place
and
don't
need
to
be
fixed
or
moved
or
anything.
A
D
A
S
AA
Have
a
table
you
know
in
the
afternoon,
so
this
is
our
annual
acceptance
of
the
Coverdale
Grant
this
year.
We're
getting
72
877
42
we're
a
little
over
forty
two
thousand
dollars
of
it
will
go
to
purchase
opioid
test
kits,
and
the
remaining
portion
pays
up
a
part
of
a
position
of
a
forensic
lab
investigator.
A
W
W
We
do
this
in
conjunction
with
all
62
communities,
school
districts,
other
major
County
departments
and
divisions
such
as
Water
Resources,
Road
Commission
on
actually,
when
we
applied
for
this
grant,
it
was
a
75-25
match,
but
when
they
awarded
the
Grant
and
they
used
I'll
call
it
a
different
pot
of
money,
so
it's
actually
a
90
10.
and
so
that
10
percent
we
actually
won't
match
with
any
funds,
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
in
a
staff
time.
W
A
D
A
Y
Number
three
to
the
local
Health
Department
emerging
threats,
amendment
in
the
amount
of
2
million
317
990
for
various
projects
under
the
local
Health
Department,
emerging
threats,
project.
Y
T
Afternoon,
thanks
for
having
us
today,
I'm
Jason,
Warner,
I'm,
the
manager
of
planning
and
Engineering
with
facilities
management
and
to
my
left
is
Mike.
Crum
he's
the
chief
of
building
safety
with
the
Emergency
Management
Division,
and
the
resolution
we
have
here
today
is
four
replacement
of
the
access
control
system
in
accounting
facilities.
So
this
is
the
card
swipes
that
we
have
on
the
building
doors
to
enter
building
spaces.
T
The
current
system
is
was
installed
in
the
year.
2000
typical
lifespan
is
about
10
years,
so
they
are
past.
Their
recommended
age
parts
are
starting
to
become
harder
to
find
for
the
existing
system.
So
this
resolution
will
replace
all
the
hardware
all
of
the
servers.
It
will
upgrade
what
we
have
now
to
a
proximity
reader,
so
no
longer
swiping
cards
same
ID
that
we
still
use
today.
J
J
AB
A
different
technology
and
it
will
enhance
our
abilities,
it'll,
also
collaboratively
work
with
other
other
departments
within
the
county,
for
an
example
would
be
Information,
Technology
I.T,
we
we
have
our
printers
and
that
they
were
putting
out
into
the
facilities
and
we're
using
our
ID
to
access
the
printer
to
scan
or
other
functionality
that
you
can't
use
with
the
magnetic
strip.
So
it's
the
proximity
that
allows
us
to
do
that.
M
Charles
yeah
yeah,
the
preview
of
this
a
couple
weeks
ago,
when
Whiteford
and
I
met
for
EDI
preparation,
that
there
was
talk
about
a
confidential
list
and
I
was
like
oh
where's,
the
confidential
list,
because
you
know
if
it's
confidential
I
want
to
see
it.
So,
just
as
a
reminder,
I
think
it's
this
document
that
doesn't
say
confidential
I
really
wish
it
had
a
watermark.
But
is
that?
M
Is
this
the
one
we
it's
we
keep
to
ourselves
and
so
just
as
a
reminder,
because
it
doesn't
actually
say
it
on
a
document
and
I,
don't
want
anyone
to
be
confused.
A
Okay
to
anybody
else,
Mr
Hardesty
was
talking
about.
When
this
happens,
we
may
have
to
have
everybody
actually
wearing
their
badges
all
the
time.
If
we
do
that,
can
we
give
all
5
000
employees
a
lanyard
that
says
Oakland
County,
because
you
know
as
part
of
this
project
you
know
or
one
of
those
stretchy
things
I
mean
left
over
time.
C
A
AB
A
T
This
project
here
will
provide
roof
restraint
systems,
fall
restraint,
systems
to
County,
roofs,
our
maintenance,
workers
and
contractors
when
they
need
to
access
roofs
for
filter
Replacements
on
the
HVAC
systems,
general
maintenance
repairs-
sometimes
they
do
are.
They
are
required
to
to
work
within
a
certain
distance
of
the
Leading
Edge
of
the
building.
So
these
systems
are
planned.
We've
worked
pretty
closely
with
risk
management
on
these
to
install
on
all
roofs
where
workers
are
working.
T
Our
maintenance
workers
are
already
trained
and
fitted
with
harnesses
and
lanyards,
so
they'll
be
able
to
just
go
in
and
clip
into
these
systems,
and
then
they
can
work
safely
onto
the
buildings.
So
this
resolution
here
will
address
the
jail,
Public
Works,
a
couple,
roofs
on
the
courthouse
here
and
then
the
patrol
services
and
little
Oaks
facilities,
which
we
are
planning
to
re-roof
2023
CIP
program
as
well,
and
that
resolution
will
come
to
you
at
the
next
meeting.
C
A
G
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Ann
varm,
the
chief
Deputy
resource
commissioner.
This
is
Steve
korth
he's
our
chief
manager.
We
were
from
the
EDI
Community
Committee
earlier.
This
is
about
a
conference
room
upgrade
that
that
is,
our
classroom
is
as
old
and
seriously
underutilized
from
the
technology
challenges
and
space
challenges.
So
it's
time
for
an
upgrade.
So
we're
asking
for
that
today.
K
Commissioner,
Powell,
of
course,
on
the
proposed
layouts,
you
are
switched
from
chairs
on
the
side
to
chairs
behind,
probably
to
projected
speakers,
and
the
screen
is
right
there.
Why
was
that?
Because
it's
like
yeah,
why
was
that?
Is
that
just
some
new
modern
that
they're
doing
now
or
is
it
a
concept?
Why?
F
Just
want
the
eggs
good
questions,
we
try
to
allow
as
much
as
many
chairs
as
possible,
and
that
was
the
cleanest
way
to
get
the
most
folks
in
the
room.
There's
also
a
separate
piece
of
furniture
or
credenza.
That's
off
to
the
side.
That
impacts
the
other
setup
that
you
were
referencing,
oh,
regarding
the
screen
being
on
the
only
one
side,
looking
behind
board
members
or
speakers,
it's
actually
going
to
be
another
screen
on
the
other
side
of
the
room,
so
everybody
can
see
no
matter
where
there's
something
fairly.
F
E
A
good
question:
I
apologize,
I
missed
the
EDI
committee
meeting
when
this
is
discussed,
but
I'm
fully
in
favor
of
it,
but
I
guess.
My
question
is
the
the
dollar
amount
seems
rather
High
to
me
again:
I
don't
live
in
this
world
I,
don't
know
what
is
involved,
project
cost
estimate
of
173
thousand
dollars
to
basically
remake
a
room.
Again.
Please
excuse
me:
I,
don't
mean
to
dumb
it
down,
but
it
just
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
money
to
basically
redo
this
kind
of
room.
T
So
please
that's
a
great
question.
So,
although
it's
just
a
conference
room,
we're
replacing
the
lighting
upgrading
it
to
LED
lights,
you
know
changing
out
the
fixtures,
so
the
lighting
for
their
meetings
a
little
bit
better,
painting
flooring,
all
of
the
electrical
and
EV
work,
that's
required
for
the
technology,
there's
going
to
be
speakers
and
microphones
in
the
ceiling
similar
to
what
we
have
here.
The
screen
is
going
to
be
a
touch
screen
all
of
the
furniture
there's
also
a
few
architectural
Renovations
or
alterations
to
the
space.
T
E
E
T
So
the
yeah,
the
173,
would
be
the
top
dollar.
We
do
have
some
contingencies
in
here.
We
have
a
15
construction
contingency
for
anything
unforeseen.
If
we
open
up
Awards
or
something
you
know
that
we
didn't
know
was
in
there
at
the
time
that
would
cover
that.
We
also
have
an
inflationary
contingency
only
because
of
the
market
that
we're
seeing
right
now
would
we
get
bid
numbers.
Most
offenders
will
only
hold
those
for
a
maximum
of
30
days.
T
F
V
Hoffman
all
right,
thank
you
guys
very
much
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
there's
a
contingency
in
here
but
I
know
the
construction
costs
are
coming
down
now
and
I
can't
imagine
a
20
inflationary
contingency,
that's
I
I,
let's
just
hope
it
comes
in
at
the
128
253,
but
I
understand
they
have
to
have
safeguards.
But
man
that's
a
lot
of
money,
as
somebody
else
mentioned,
but
thank.
M
Anybody
else
I'll
just
throw
in
that
it
stays
in
Michigan,
because
the
procurement
happens
with
which
I
guess
Michigan
is
in
the
furniture
business
of
quality.
You
know
sturdy
stuff,
and
so
it's
out
west
Western
Michigan,
but
I
was
happy
to
hear
that
earlier,
that
we're
purchasing
not
just
American-made
but
Michigan.
So.
J
A
M
I
know
you
all
probably
saw
these
in
your
inbox.
They
are
hard
to
miss
and
I
I
just
have
to
go
on
record
and
say
that
this
just
looks
like
a
waste
of
of
paper
and
ink.
Why
is
it
so?
Big
am
I
supposed
to
post
this
in
my
house
for
my
family
because
I
just
this
looks
like
it
goes
in
a
break
room
which
is
appropriate,
but
not
for
all
our
mailboxes,
and
this
happens
all
the
time
we
get
these
big
old
things
and
I
recycle
it
immediately.
M
M
We
don't
do
pork
around
here.
The
other
thing
is
I
heard
from
Parks
and
I.
Don't
really
know
where
this
goes,
but
they
have
a
big
flag
of
jobs
that
aren't
being
filled
because
it
seems
like
there's
a
huge
time
gap
between
them
going
to
the
executive's
office
and
saying
hey:
we
have
jobs,
can
they
get
on
the
website?
M
They've
got
a
bunch
of
jobs
sitting
there
30
40
days,
that's
been
on
the
website
unfilled
and
it
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
breakdown
between
parks
and
HR
in
terms
of
getting
those
jobs
posted
and
you
know
being
on
the
Parks
Board,
it's
hard
for
me
to
sit
back
idly
and
just
be
like.
Oh
well,
you
know
things
happen
so
again,
not
sure
heart
or
horse.
You
know
which,
which
comes
first,
but
of
course,
I.
A
V
M
K
V
M
M
V
A
Don't
want
to
stop
right
now,
somebody
from
Water
Resources
earlier
today
about
hiring
right
and
they
and
somebody
who
might
be
interested
in
the
job,
and
they
said,
let
us
know,
give
us
the
name
and
we
will
help
them
navigate
the
mess
that
is
HR
and
so
I
do
think.
There's
a
there's,
a
systemic
kind
of
thing
that
needs
to
be
talked
about
yeah.
So,
commissioner,
good
morning.
P
Starts
with
a
g
one
day,
we
really
do
need
to
talk
about
HR
and
the
hiring
okay
I'll
just
leave
it
there.
The
thing
about
the
posters
because
I'm
an
avid
recycler.
It
makes
me
crazy
too,
but
you
have
to
realize
it's
only
19
of
them
that
they're
giving
to
us
the
rest
are
posted
in
the
appropriate
places.
So
you
know
if
you
order
200,
they
just
put
19
for
us,
but
it's
still
worthy
and
things
should
always
be
printed
on
both
sides.
P
K
Thank
you,
commissioner
Powell.
What
I
will
let
my
colleagues
know
is
that
me
and
Dave
recently
had
a
meeting
with
HR
and
it
was
to
talk
about
a
lot
of
the
cultural.
K
You
know
things
and
Dei
was
on
there
and
he
enlightened
us
on
some
things
that
they
are
working
on,
so
I
will
say
if
we
do
eventually
request
them.
Just
know
that
everything
that
y'all
possibly
kind
of
mentioned
it
is
kind
of
in
their
radar
of
assessment
of
things
of
what
is
going
on.
And
how
are
we
going
to
correct
this
moving
forward
and
I?
Think
too,
because
Mr
is
a
Sunil
yeah.
He
just
kind
of
got
there
got
in
his
face.
K
You
know
what
I
mean
so
I
think
that
just
know
that
it's
good
that
I'm
happy
to
hear
my
colleagues
sharing
the
same
Sentiments
of
things
and
y'all
hearing
the
same
thing
and
it's
good
to
maybe
pose
for
them
him
and
Dei
I.
Think
is
good,
too,
for
us
to
request
for
Dei
to
come
before
us
as
well,
to
give
us
an
update
on
a
lot
of
the
things
that
they're
doing,
because
they
have
things
in
place
to
address
this
cultural
concern
here
that
we
have
in
our
different
departments.
K
P
I
know
those
conversations
are
having
what
I'm
talking
about
is
a
systemic
problem
with
the
Merit
system
and
I
learned
that
that
was
a
vote
of
the
county
to
put
us
on
the
Merit
system.
So
it
is
not
going
to
be
an
easy
thing
to
change,
but
the
Merit
system
itself
to
me
is
problematic.
It's
got
a
lot
of
issues
and
that's
a
much
deeper
discussion,
because
that
would
require
a
vote
of
the
county
to
change,
but.
P
P
So
that's
part
of
the
problem
they're
dealing
with
a
system
that
is
so
horrible,
horrible
and
so
like
that,
but
they're
meant
that's
what
they
have
to
do.
So
all
these
little
extra
things
they're
doing
are
great
too,
but
they're.
This
is
the
real
problem.
Is
the
marriage
system
I?
Think?
No,
it's
just
another.
P
P
In
the
advertising
and
the
steps
they
have
to
go
through
to
to
get
a
candidate
who
we've
recommended-
who
we
know
is
a
great
candidate,
but
they
don't
pass
those
certain
stupid
steps
that
they
have
to
go
through.
That
are
ancient
steps,
but
but
doesn't
a
personal
recommendation
mean
anything
so
and
I'm
not
wailing
on
HR,
because
their
hands
are
tied.
V
A
I
K
My
sister
applied
here
and
she's
very
she
was,
and
it
was
when
she
was
trying
to
work
in
Treasury
and
Meisner.
Really
she
actually
vetted
out
from
the
candidates
that
he
referred
and
who
he
was
choosing,
but
she
didn't
make
it
through
the
mayor
and
he
was
devastated.
So
it
is
what
it
is
that
was
before.
I
came,
commissioner,
though
yeah
so.