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A
B
Next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
number
four
approval
of
the
minutes.
If
there
aren't
any
changes
or
corrections
to
the
minutes
dated
august
23rd
of
2022,
do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
loops
support
by
commissioner
joliet,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed,
and
it's
approved
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
five,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
agenda?
C
Good
morning
my
name
is
katherine
kennedy
from
lakorian,
and
the
item
I'll
be
speaking
on,
is
well
everything
on
the
regular
agenda,
pretty
much
parks
and
recreation.
I
actually
have
an
issue
with
the
fact
that
is
a
separate
authority
and
we
changed
a
merit
position
to
director
position
created
a
new
department,
and
now
we
have
extra
tax
implications
for
the
citizens.
C
I
think
it's
abuse
of
power.
I
think
we're
over
taxing
our
citizens
to
the
point
that
we're
going
to
have
substantial
problems
in
our
communities
and
the
recession
is
just
starting,
no
matter
whether
they
try
to
redefine
it
or
not.
The
fact
that
we
have
b
c
d-
he
are
all
raises
so
we're
at
a
point
where
we
have
inflation
at
record
highs.
So
we
got
five
percent
raises
across
the
board
for
everybody.
C
On
top
of
that,
we
already
did
15
last
year
for
covid
and
how
many
raises
do
you
think
we
can
afford
to
support
in
this
county?
So
almost
any
entire
agenda
is
to
give
people
raises
that
already
got
a
lot
of
raises.
In
spite
of
the
fact,
we've
lost
a
quarter
of
our
businesses
that
create
the
jobs
in
oakland
county
and
our
government
is
literally
inviting
people
to
acquire
our
businesses
in
real
estate.
The
new
sales
trans
foreclosure
process
that
they
just
completed
august
12,
was
done.
C
Online
and
non-citizens
only
had
to
fill
out
a
piece
of
paper
and
have
a
credit
card
to
buy
our
tax
foreclosed
property.
That
is
a
shame
that
is
not
okay
and
you
cry
about
oh
yeah,
affordable
housing.
No
everything
you're
doing
here
is
the
opposite
of
affordable
housing
unless
you're
a
non-citizen
that
doesn't
pay
taxes.
C
So
this
entire
everything
in
this
committee
is
ridiculous.
To
have
this
many
raises
for
this
many
people
in
this
many
departments
when
so
many
in
the
community
are
struggling
to
put
food
on
the
table.
You
realize
that
right.
I
guess
I
don't
understand
how
it's
it's
possible
to
not
realize
that
our
citizens
are
suffering
because
of
the
policies
that
have
been
brought
forth
by
this
government,
and
this
body
has
been
going
lockstep
the
exact
same
proposal,
the
exact
same
policies
that
are
creating
the
inflation
problem
that
is
starving
our
country.
C
So
all
these
things
that
you
keep
doing
and
we
keep
trying
to
call
green
energy
and
spending
money
that
way
when
it's
actually
not
green
at
all,
did
you
know
the
so
those
wind
turbines
require
oil
and
if
we
didn't
destroy
our
own
oil
and
gas
industry,
which,
by
the
way
american
production
was
the
cleanest
of
all,
we
are
instead
spending
money
on
things
like
that
here
that
are
made
in
china,
guys
they're,
not
they're,
not
even
green,
how
many
batteries
get
recycled.
How
much
chemicals
and
minerals
are
dug
from
the
earth?
C
B
D
D
Name
is
christina
bood.
I
reside
in
wayne
county,
but
my
mother
had
business
here
and
lived
in
oakland
county.
She
is
now
deceased
because
of
a
nefarious
guardian,
illegal
guardianship,
and
I
am
here
to
report
on
the
condition
of
the
courts
and
the
safety
factor,
which
is
dangerous
and
for
litigants
to
go
back
into
court
and
to
have.
D
B
B
B
See
none.
I
will
close
our
first
public
comment.
Next
up
we'll
move
on
to
the
consent
agenda.
We
have
five
items
item
a
recognizing
the
second
monday
of
october
as
indigenous
people's
day
item
b,
designating
october
2022
is
national
attention:
deficit,
hybrid
disorder,
awareness
month
in
oakland,
county
item
c
domestic
violence
awareness
month
in
oakland,
county
item
d
october
2022
is
breast
cancer
awareness
month
in
oakland,
county
and
item
e,
which
is
recognizing
october
2022
as
national
disability
employment
awareness
month
here
in
oakland
county.
B
B
Five
years
zero
days,
moshe
carries
next
up
we're
going
to
move
on
down
to
item
a
of
our
regular
agenda.
We
have
reorganization
of
the
parks
and
recreation
department.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
lube's
support
by
commissioner
gershonsen
and
I
believe
we've
got
our
parks
and
rec
director
chris
ward
and
melissa
proust
so
good
morning.
E
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
thanks
for
taking
up
this
item
and
considering
it,
this
is
a
item
that
was
a
long
time
in
coming
and
represents
multiple
different
issues.
We
had
early
on.
In
the
year,
parks
commission
took
up
a
resolution
approving
a
reorganization
of
our
department,
focus
on
some
priority
areas
that
that
were
driving
our
organization
towards,
and
that
includes
a
dei
coordinator
position,
which
is
in
your
resolution
here
today.
E
It's
a
it's
an
important
role
for
us
as
a
department
to
deliver
services
to
2
million
visitors
a
year
in
a
workforce
of
over
80,
full-time
part-time
year-round
individuals
and
over
600
seasonal
positions
that
we
fill
on
an
annual
basis
and,
as
was
mentioned,
we
are
millage
funded.
So
there's
also
a
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
taxpayers
receive
fair
and
equitable
benefit
for
the
taxes
that
they
pay.
E
So
we
are
really
looking
to
lean
in
in
this
area
of
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
and
work
on
building
out
increased
diversity
in
our
workforce
as
well.
We're
also
looking
to
deal
with
multiple
issues
of
chronic
understaffing
on
the
front
lines
of
delivering
services.
So
you'll
see
in
this
resolution,
groundskeepers
construction
inspectors,
various
you
know:
crew
chief
positions
that
deliver
services
on
the
ground
at
our
parks,
where
our
folks
have
been
awfully
stretched
in,
especially
through
the
pandemic,
and
coming
out
of
that.
E
This
opportunity,
with
the
new
increased
millage,
allows
us
to
reinvest
back
into
our
workforce
and
in
line
with
those
millage
initiatives
that
were
part
of
the
approval
of
an
increased
millage
in
two
years
ago.
There's
a
natural
resources
and
invasive
species
outreach
specialist
that
is
in
this
recreation
programming
position
as
well.
That
will
support
our
outreach
initiatives,
a
wrap
program
that
I
know
you're
all
very
familiar
with
that
delivers
services,
recreation
program,
services
to
our
communities.
E
There's
multiple
items
in
here
that
align
classifications
to
the
appropriate,
comparable
positions
in
their
current
duties
and
also
incorporating
this
provide,
there's
a
realignment
of
how
we're
organized
so
that
it
provides
the
flexibility
to
administratively
move
positions
within
various
units
in
the
organization.
It
gives
us
a
lot
more
ability
to
be
nimble
to
deal
with
the
evolving
issues
that
come
up
at
parks
and
priorities,
sometimes
focus
from
different
parks
different
times
of
the
year
and
depending
on
our
operations
and
services.
F
I
want
to
say
that
I'm
really.
F
F
Different
types
of
disability
lead
issues
that
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
when
we
offer
services
to
our
public.
So
as
we
talk
about
this,
if
we
get
any
pushback
as
far
as
their
role,
we
have
to
must
stay
focused
on
that
they
look
at
all
type
of
inclusion,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
see
that
you
have
gone
in
that
direction.
To
put
a
person
in
that
magnitude
under
parks
and
red
thanks.
E
Commissioner,
thanks
for
highlighting
that
that's
absolutely
true
and
there's
so
many
different
aspects
of
what
this
position
would
focus
on
and
bring
a
lens
and
an
area
of
expertise
too.
That
will
really
enhance
our
ability
to
serve
all
people
of
the
county
and
create
a
welcoming
environment
that
they
will
want
to
come,
enjoy
our
services
and
come
to
our
parks.
F
G
You
good
morning,
just
I
think
these
positions,
obviously
parks
and
rec,
has
had
to
had
some
overhaul
issues
and
had
to
be
addressed
for
the
new
environment
that
we're
in
I'm
trying
to
see
how
many
positions
are
being
deleted
and
then
reclassified.
So
it
looks
like.
Are
you
deleting
two
full
time
and
three
three
part
time
and
then
reclassifying.
D
E
H
Okay,
so
I
also
am
very
happy
to
look
at
this
reorg
because
you've
come
into
a
new
position,
you've
kind
of
assessed
what
you
need
to
strengthen
your
department
and
also
you're,
now
responsible
to
deliver
services
to
the
public
because
of
the
millage.
So
I
think
this
is
a
very
thoughtful
re-org
and-
and
I
also
like
the
way
you
handled
the
the
shortage
of
lifeguards,
that
seemed
to
seem
to
be
on
the
right
path.
So
I
really
I
appreciate
this
report
and
support.
E
B
Next
up
item
number
b,
human
resources,
other
action,
fiscal
year,
2023
salary
recommendation
for
non-represented
employees.
Commissioners,
do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
jackson,
support
by
commissioner
lubes
and
I
believe
we've
got
april
joining
us
this
morning,
so
welcome
and
welcome
heather
good
morning.
I
Thank
you
very
much.
I
also
have
kyle
jenn
on
the
line
as
well
our
director
of
m
b.
If
we
have
any
further
questions
as
placed
in
the
original
budget
that
was
delivered
to
the
commission,
this
is
our
formal
request
for
a
five
percent
pay
increase
for
all
general
salary
or
for
the
general
salary
increases
includes
all
non-represented.
I
This
does
not
include
it's
always
important
does
not
include
the
judges,
there's
a
set
by
the
state
court
administrator
with
this
as
well.
We
have
a
variety
of
all
of
our
other
unions
as
well
that
have
what
we
call
a
me.
Also
me
too
clause,
so
they
too
in
turn,
would
get
the
five
percent
pay
increase
of
which
is
in
your
budget
and
then,
as
also
in
here,
are
some
as
we
do
approve.
This
is
called
our
salary
plan
for
the
year.
I
B
What
led
what
criteria
and
what
led
the
discussion
with
a
recommendation
of
a
five
percent
general
salary
increase,
and,
specifically
even
more
so,
especially
after
our
compensation
study
right.
I
know
that
we've
extensively
talked
about
the
increases
that
many
employees
received
as
a
result
of
the
compensation
study
being
completed.
I
I
So
when
you,
when
you
start
looking
at
what
general
salary
increases,
should
look
like
you,
take
a
look
over
time
of
where
inflation
or
cpi
has
been
as
well
as
you
know,
local
communities
or
anything
surrounding
the
southeast
michigan
area,
and
so
when
we
took
a
look
at
where
we
needed
to
be
for
this
year,
kyle
took
a
lot
of
information
based
on
cpi,
with
the
state
general
inflationary
rates
and
looked
at
the
average
pay
increases
that
we
were
seeing
throughout
the
throughout
the
lower
southeast
michigan.
I
A
Good
morning,
I
don't
know
why
my
camera's
not
working,
but
I'm
here.
Can
everybody
hear
me.
A
You
know
I
would
just
you
know,
echo
april's
thoughts.
You
know
certainly
we're
trying
to
balance.
You
know,
I
think
three
things
one
is
the.
You
know
the
pressure
that
our
employees
and
all
residents
are
feeling
in
terms
of
higher
costs
of
living.
We
have
inflation
for
the
current
year.
That's
likely
to
be.
You
know
up
in
the
eight
to
nine
percent
range,
so
we
we
know
we
can't
make
up
all
of
that,
but
we
wanna,
you
know,
recognize
that
there
are
higher
costs
out
there.
A
You
know
s,
secondly,
is
is
just
what
april
said
in
terms
of
what
our
competitors
you
know
for
talent
and
qualified
employees
are
doing.
You
know,
we
know
the
state
of
the
state
of
michigan
is
doing
five
percent
this
year.
I
think
we've
seen
higher
increases
across
both
the
public
and
private
sector,
and
then
thirdly,
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure.
Obviously
we
can
afford
you
know
what
increase
we
provide,
and
this
five
percent
increase
is
built
into
the
budget
recommendation.
A
You
know
that
we
presented
in
july
and
that
the
finance
committee
has
now
reported
out
and
that
the
board
will
take
up
in
a
couple
weeks
here.
You
know
so
that
we've
got
this
fully
accounted
for
and
as
part
of
that
structurally
balanced
budget
that
we've
presented
to
you.
So
those
are
the
you
know
the
three
main
factors
I
think.
B
A
I
don't
have
that
number
handy.
I
don't
know
if
heather
has
that
in
her
head.
B
G
So
yeah,
thank
you.
G
I
see
here
too,
that
you're
requiring
employees
to
contribute
bi-weekly
the
ten
dollars
for
healthcare
that'll,
be
the
next
one.
Is
that
the
next
okay?
I'm
jumping
ahead
all
right
well
to
address
the
fact
that
I'm
not
excited
about
five
percent
raise,
but
inflation
is
at
eight
percent
right
now
and
there
is
still
a
huge
hiring
gap,
a
worker
shortage
and
our
employees
are
having
to
keep
up
with
that
which
is
concerning.
So
thank
you.
F
I
just
want
to
make
note
of
the
creation
of
new
classifications
and
I'm
going
back
here
again
to
d
e,
and
I
and
I
see
that
there
are
two
d
e
and
I
there's
an
analyst
position
and
a
coordinator
position
proposed,
and
I
just
want
to
say
I
feel
as
though
that
was
needed
and
the
former
deni
person
and
the
equity
council
had.
You
know
made
note
that
there
was
no
staff
that
she
was
like
a
lone
wolf
and
it
was
not
very
easy
for
her
to
operate
in
that
mold.
F
So
I'm
glad
to
see
that
these
new
classifications
are
being
created.
So.
H
B
I
Thank
you.
I
have
stephanie
bedrick
with
me.
She
is
our
supervisor
over
benefits
and
wellness.
Just
in
case
we
have
more
detailed
questions,
but
we
had,
I
believe,
back
in
april,
made
a
presentation
to
the
to
the
board
regarding
some
of
the
a
five-year
plan
as
related
to
helping
to
navigate
and
manage
our
health
care
costs.
I
We
actually
implemented
an
employee
benefits
task
force
that
is
still
going
strong
and
that
helped
us
actually
create
that
five-year
plan
and
the
five-year
plan
was
designed
to
help
control
health
care
costs
through
employee
support,
as
well
as
you
know,
making
sure
that,
behind
the
scenes
administratively,
we
were
doing
all
we
had
to
control
our
costs.
So
this
is
one
of
the
first
outcomes
of
the
benefits
task
force
that
this
year
will
be
the
first
year
that
they'll
be
looking
at
an
increase
in
contribution
of
10
bi-weekly.
I
This
was
again
the
the
overall
plan
that
was
helped
created
by
the
benefits
task
force.
All
of
the
unions
support
this
plan
as
well,
and
they
will
also
be
implementing
the
same
10
bi-weekly
increase
in
their
contributions.
This
will
be
the
first
one
in
over
a
decade
of
increase
that
employees
have
seen
within
their
health
care
plans,
and
we
still
continue
to
use
the
benefit
task
force.
I
As
we
start
looking
forward
to
creative
ways
of
looking
at
our
plan
designs
and
our
plans
that
we
have
and
any
other
creative
ways
and
solutions,
we
can
have
to
continue
to
save
costs,
so
this
would
apply
to
all
of
the
employees
as
it
relates
to
that
increase.
B
And
this
is
a
flat
rate.
Ten
dollars
for
employees
doesn't
matter
how
much
you're
making
right
it's
just
a
flat
rate.
Was
there
any
consideration
given
to
given
that
it
is
a
flat
rate?
So
you
have
individuals
who
may
be
making
thirty
thousand
dollars
versus
individuals
who
are
making
two
hundred
thousand
dollars?
Was
there
any
conversation
or
discussion
in
regards
and
in
relation
to
why
a
flat
rate,
and
maybe
not
looking
at
the
the
income
and
salary
there.
I
I
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
at
as
we
move
in
the
future
is
taking
a
look
at
you
know
different
classifications
and
in
comparison
to
what
they
make
and
what
they
contribute,
but
the
the
benefits
task
force
at
this
time,
given
that
there
hadn't
been
an
increase
in
so
long
that
they
were,
it
wasn't
necessarily
something
they
were
opposed
to,
but
not
really
amenable
to.
At
this
point
of
taking
a
look
at
a
tiered
approach,
we
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
options.
I
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
at,
though
too,
is
because
I
I
understand
that
to
continue
to
keep
doing
that
is,
is
not
necessarily
fair
across
the
board.
We
looked
at
deductible
plans
as
well.
You
know
where,
depending
on
how
much
you
use
they
didn't,
that
was
definitely
something
that
came
out
of
the
task
force
as
well,
that
even
having
the
deductible
program
that
you
know
you
kind
of
pay
for
it
as
you
need
it
caused
a
lot
of
consternation.
I
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
in
january
is
all
of
our
our
program
or
all
of
our
our
our
benefit
plans
are
up
for
we're
ready
to
be
up
for
bid.
We
are
going
to
be
looking
at
a
much
stronger,
more
modern,
narrow
network
which
is
similar
to
an
hmo,
but
it's
more
it's
more
of
a
modern
approach
to
it,
it's
kind
of
complicated
to
say,
but
it's
actually
a
lot
cheaper.
I
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
provide
other
alternatives
for
those
that
may
not
be
able
to
that,
may
not
want
to
contribute
to
that
bi-weekly
and
also
looking
at
potential
for
higher
deductible
plans
as
well.
Why
not
getting
rid
of
the
hot
the
ppo
one
and
two
that
that
our
employees
seem
to
like
so
much
but
adding
other
options
as
well
for
those
employees
while
still
getting
high
quality
health
care
options?
So
we're
looking
at
all
of
that
as
well.
B
When
are
the
healthcare
contracts
going
out
to
bed
in
january
of
this
year?
So
what
was
the
reason
and
purpose
of
going
forward
with
this
increase
now,
as
opposed
to,
given
that
we
are
so
close
to
going
out
to
bid
in
january
of
2023
right?
Why
are
we
starting?
I
Right
because
the
plan,
the
five-year
plan
includes
both
con
both
support
from
employees
and
from
administration.
So
in
order
to
control
costs
again,
we
haven't
seen
an
increase
in
health
care
costs
to
our
employees
in
well
over
10
years.
It's
actually
been
longer
than
that,
and
so
part
of
it
is
in
most
instances.
You
see
some
sort
of
increase
in
health
care,
so
just
by
going
out
to
bid
isn't
going,
isn't
going
to
be,
it
could
save
some
money,
but
the
cost
of
health
care
is
so
high.
You
can't
actually
really
save
money.
I
You
try
to
control
costs,
so
there
has
to
be
kind
of
a
give,
give
and
take
with
employees
as
well.
Again,
we
try
to
keep
it
as
low
as
we
can.
We
don't
have
another
increase
in
or
a
contribution
or
a
change
until
25.
So
it's
we're
not
doing
massive
changes
and
by
then
then
we
can
take
a
look
at
what
our
other
options
are.
Excellent
and.
B
Just
finally,
what
was
led
to
the
determination
of
the
900
000
being
saved?
Can
you
break
that
down
and
how
that
was
determined
sure
it's.
I
H
You
covered
most
of
my
questions,
however,
what,
if
this
doesn't
go
through,
what
sort
of
implications
would
it
have
for
our
budget.
H
Okay,
so
the
reason
then,
for
this
is
pretty
much-
you
think
the
savings
and
then
to
to
deal
with
the
fact
that
health
care
costs
have
gone
up.
I
Yeah,
we
average
about
five
overall
over
a
10-year
time
period
over
five
percent
each
year,
and
so,
when
you
don't
have
any
employee
support
in
those
contributions
we
we
take
on
all
of
that.
So
it's
just
a
way
to
help
manage
that
in
a
better
way.
And
again
we
haven't
seen
an
increase
in
about
well
over
10
years.
I
think
2013
was
the
last
major
contribution
shift
that
has
happened.
C
I
Just
also
too,
we
met
with
all
of
the
unions,
have
this
in
their
new
contracts.
What
about
the
uaw?
The
we
have
similar
to
them?
Yeah
they'll
be
getting
the
same
thing,
we're
working
with
them
right
now.
They
put
parameters
within
their
contract
which
are
well
below.
I
G
Thank
you
coming
from
local,
I
know
that
we
have
done
this
in
the
past
to
lower
our
health
care
costs,
and
employees
and
retirees
were
very
open
to
this,
realizing
how
health
care
costs
have
accelerated.
So
by
doing
this,
this
will
make
our
negotiation
for
future
for
the
hmo
more
favorable
in
terms
of
being
more
cost
effective
with
employees.
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,.
B
Four
years,
one
day
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Next
up
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
d,
which
again
is
human
resources
resolution
adopting
compensation,
adjustments
for
county
commissioners
for
the
2023
term
of
office,
and
it
looks
like
we've
got
again
heather
in
april,
but
do
we
have
a
motion?
First,
a
motion
by
commissioner
gershenson
seconded
by
commissioner
jackson.
I
J
There
we
go
good
morning
so
as
you're
aware
the
public
act
261
of
1966
sets
the
compensation
says
that
the
compensation
for
the
board
of
commissioners
members
is
fixed
and
it
now
is
set
for
two-year
terms.
So
the
board
of
commissioners
has
to
set
their
salary
for
the
upcoming
term
of
office.
J
Effective
effective
january
1,
2023
and
january
1,
2024.
B
Excellent
and
just
to
kind
of
further
enhance
what
heather
had
just
shared
so
again
as
she
shared
that
public
act.
261
of
the
1966
states
that
the
compensation
of
the
members
of
the
board
of
commissioners
shall
be
fixed
by
resolution
approved
by
the
board
of
commissioners
and
the
statute
further
states
that
the
compensation
changes
for
county
commissioners
are
effective
only
after
the
commencement
of
a
new
term
of
office
following
a
general
election.
So
in
simple
terms,
every
other
year
during
an
election
year
is
when
this
business
comes
before
us.
B
So
with
that
being
said,
what
I
would
like
to
propose
and
put
on
the
table
for
discussion
as
well
as
any
other
numbers,
is
thoughts
on
the
five
percent
increase
that
the
employees
are
receiving
and
amending
the
resolution
to
include
that
five
percent,
but
I'm
happy
to
open
it
up
and
gain
more
insight
and
input
from
all
of
you,
commissioner
gershon.
So.
H
B
So
what
is
attached,
as
the
10-year
history
of
increases,
is
for
the
collective
bargaining
agreements.
J
H
Thank
you
so
I
I
now
see
it
I'm
sorry.
I
I
was
confused
by
the
third
tab,
but
so
in
2022
the
commissioners
didn't
take
anything,
but
the
employees
were
given
a
1.5,
that's
correct,
okay
and
then
so
that
was
this
year.
So
next
year,
you're
recommending
a
five
percent
for
all
across
the
board,
including
elections.
B
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner
lubes
followed
by
commissioner
jackson.
According
to
this.
A
B
Is
correct:
that
is
the
next
agenda.
This
is
specific
just
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
Thank
you
and
what
you'll
find
that
it
within
the
resolution,
so
that
first
now,
therefore
be
resolved
clause.
So
it
states
that
the
oakland
county
board
of
commissioners
authorizes
a
blank
percent
adjustment
compensation
for
all
members
of
the
board
of
commissioners
that
is
effective
january
1st
of
2023
and
then
you'll
find
another
blank
with
a
percent
compensation
adjustment
effective
for
january
1st
of
2024,
because
this
happens
every
other
year
versus
our
employees
within
the
budget.
B
B
F
I
just
want
to
just
state
for
clarification
and
the
record
that
what
we
come
to
as
a
result
of
percentages
can
still
be
changed
after
this
committee
or
or
voted
up
or
down
by
the
full
board.
So
what
we're
offering
today
is
a
recommendation
correct
in
agreement
with
the
non-representative
employees,
if
that's
what
we
feel,
but
it's
not
etched
in
stone.
What
we
decide
upon
here
in
this
committee
that.
F
B
That
would
come
before
us
it'd
be
a
recommendation,
so
the
recommendation
has
come
to
us
as
the
general
government
body
and
then
from
here.
It
would
then
go
to
the
full
board
for
and
goes
to,
finance
too.
So
that's
a
good
point.
Thank
you
is
that
both
this
item
and
the
next
item
not
only
go
here
to
this
committee,
it'll
go
to
finance
and
then
it
will
hit
the
full
board
but
again
between
now
and
then
nothing
is
etched
in
stone.
G
Thank
you.
So
this
is
my
first
round
doing.
This
is
a
very
uncomfortable
position,
both
that
being
said
to
follow
history,
that
we
have
always
gone
with
what
the
general
employees
have
gone
with.
We
have
broke
suit
a
couple
of
times
last
year
with
being
covid
the
last
two
years,
and
then
it
looks
like
with
the
last
recession
and
no
sex
that
there
was
a
a
no
raise.
G
I
feel
that
we
are
all
part-time
and
I
don't
feel
that
there's
a
shortage
of
people
wanting
our
positions,
so
I
would,
I
don't
feel
comfortable
with
a
five
percent
raise.
I
would
I'd
feel
comfortable
with
the
two
and
a
half
percent
raise
just
for
cost
of
living.
So
that's
my
recommendation.
B
So,
just
for
clarification,
commissioner,
julia,
given
that
there
are
two
blanks
that
we're
looking
at
with
inserting
a
number
one
being
for
2023
one
being
for
2024..
B
G
F
B
G
B
Okay,
commissioners
does
that
make
sense
where
the
three
came
from,
given
that
we
do
this
every
other
year,
this
resolution
will
encompass
both
compensation
increases
for
2023
and
20
24..
It's
proposed
for
our
fiscal
year,
2024
budget
that
3
so
the
fiscal
year
budget,
2022.
G
B
I
H
Tentative
number.
Okay,
so
I
also
wanted
to
say
that
during
very
difficult
heated
discussions
in
2020
when
we
discussed
this-
and
it's
always
an
uncomfortable
discussion
and
yet
confidence
being
compensated
for
your
work
should
not
be
as
uncomfortable
as
it
is
in
my
opinion.
H
But
it
was
also
discussed
at
that
time
that
we
would
re-look
at
that
zero
decision
and
talk
about
perhaps
compensating
back
for
those
years,
and
that
was
a
discussion
amongst
all
the
commissioners.
Now,
I'm
not
suggesting
that
right
now,
but
I
just
think
for
this
is
committees
where
you
discuss
things,
and
this
is
I
just
wanted
to
remind
commissioners
and
you
weren't
there
that
that
was
part
of
the
intent
with
taking
zero.
H
B
So
to
clarify,
commissioner,
when
you
say
you're
comfortable
with
the
five
percent
splitting
it
two
and
a
half
two
and
a
half,
or
are
you
saying,
you're
comfortable
with
doing
january,
1st
2023
5
right
and
then
we
are
also
tasked
with
a
percent
increase
for
2024
and
that's
three,
and
that
is
three.
That
was
the
three
that
was
recommended.
That's
right,
holder
and
24..
B
Then
you're
recommending
the
five
percent
for
fiscal
for
starting
january
1st
2023
and
then
inserting
the
three
percent
for
fiscal
year
2024..
I
am
okay.
Thank
you
just
for
clarification,
commissioner.
Juliette.
G
Yes,
I'm
familiar,
I
I
was,
I
wasn't
part
of
the
board.
I
was
on
the
call,
though
listening
and
I
remember
it
was
quite
a
long
call,
and
I
thought
what
am
I
getting
myself
into,
but
anyway,
looking
back
at
the
history
that
we
were
furnished
with
when
there
was
a
a
raise
freeze
back
during
the
recession
and
then
and
then
it
was,
you
know,
I
think
it
was
like
a
three
year
freeze
and
then
it
went
back
up.
It
wasn't
made
whole
just
because
we
were
recovering.
B
Okay,
so,
commissioner
juliette
clarification,
you
are
recommending
two
and
a
half
percent
for
january
1st
2023
and
a
two
and
a
half
percent
compensation
adjustment,
effective
january
1st,
2020,
four
correct,
okay,
commissioner
jackson
did
I
see
no.
A
B
So
is
there
any
further
numbers
that
would
be
like
to
be
brought
out
to
the
table?
Okay,
so
as
it
stands,
we
have
recommendation
of
two
and
a
half
for
january
1st
2023,
followed
by
or
I'm
sorry.
B
Let
me
restate
that
so
commissioner
gershon
has
brought
forward
a
five
and
a
half
percent
for
january.
That
would
be
effective
january
1st
of
2023
and
a
three
percent
compensation
adjustment
that
would
be
effective.
In
january,
1st
of
2024.,
commissioner
joliet,
supported
by
commissioner
lubes,
brought
forward
a
two
and
a
half
percent
adjustment,
for
that
would
be
effective
january,
1st
2023
and
then
another
two
and
a
half
percent
compensation
adjustment
that
would
be
effective
of
january
1st
of
2024..
B
F
I'd
like
to
support
commissioner
gerstensen's
recommendation
just
from
the
history
of
our
pay
increases
in
the
past
and
how
many
times
that
we
have
chosen
to
forego
any
type
of
increase.
I
do
wish
this
chart.
I
think
I
heard
someone
there
maybe
say
wish
it
went
back
to
2009
when
we
were
in
the
throes
of
a
recession.
F
H
F
F
So
it'd
be
less
than
two
percent
a
term
term
year.
So
if
you
look
at
it
like
that,
and
going
back
to
the
discussion
that
was
brought
up,
that
we
determined
at
that
time,
we
would
go
back
and
kind
of
you
know
reflect
upon
what
we
gave
up
the
prior
years.
This
five
percent
is
not
really
out
of
line
with
what
the
general
non-represented
employees
got,
because
they
got
two
percent
in
2020
and
one
and
a
half
percent
in
2022.
F
okay,
so
I
could
go
with
the
five
percent
for
2023
and
the
three
percent
proposed
for
2024.
B
I
thank
you,
commissioner,
so
then
just
to
recap,
because
I
think
it
would
be
best
to
probably
move
forward
with
a
vote
on
the
two
proposals
that
have
been
brought
forward
so
before
we
go
forward
with
a
motion
to
amend
I'd
like
to
do
I'll
start
off.
Commissioner
gershenson
has
made
a
motion
for
let
me
just
get
up.
B
I
apologize
my
screen,
so
commissioner
gershenson
has
made
a
motion
for
a
five
percent
adjustment
in
compensation
for
all
members
of
the
board
of
commissioners.
That'd
be
effective
at
the
commencement
of
the
new
term
of
office
january
1st
of
2023,
and
a
three
percent
compensation
adjustment
effective
january
1st
of
2024.
Do
we
have
support
commissioner
jackson
supports
commissioners?
Any
discussion
for
further
discussion
see
none.
B
I'm
sorry
tell
me
the
amount
again
sure
commissioner
gershenson
has
made
a
motion
for
a
five
percent
compensation
adjustment,
effective
january
1st
of
2023
and
a
three
percent
compensation
adjustment
that
would
be
effective
january
1st
of
2024.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
If
there's
no
further
discussion,
please
prompt
the
vote.
B
B
A
B
A
A
Basically,
we're
back
to
the
original
motion
as
amended,
so
we
don't
need
a
new
first
and
second,
we
can.
B
The
second
to
last
now,
therefore
be
resolved.
Clause
in
this
resolution
is
being
proposed
to
state
that
the
oakland
county
board
of
commissioners
authorizes
a
two
and
a
half
percent
adjustment
in
compensation
for
all
members
of
the
board
of
commissioners,
effective
at
the
commencement
of
the
new
term
of
office.
On
january
1st
of
2023
and
a
one
and
a
half
percent
compensation
adjustment.
Effective
january
1st
of
2024.
B
I
would
like
to
just
say
this
is
a
difficult
conversation
and
a
sticky
political
per
se
agenda
item.
It's
historically
always
been
a
dreaded
item
because
it
is
uncomfortable
as
an
elected
official
to
talk
about
and
recommend
percent
increases
as
elected
officials,
and
not
just
only
for
us
as
the
board
of
commissioners,
but
also
as
we'll
lead
into
our
next
agenda
item
with
other
elected
officials
here
in
the
county.
B
H
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
You
know
I
have
extensive
background
in
fundraising
and
it
is
understood
that
women
in
particular,
have
a
hard
time
asking
other
people
asking
people
for
money.
It's
it's
an
issue
of
our
self-worth,
our
self-value,
because
it
shouldn't
be
embarrassing.
We
are
we
all
work
very
hard,
and
certainly
our
pay
is
definitely
under
other
commissioners
in
in
the
area
other
of
other
counties.
H
However,
I
love
the
idea
of
the
independent
commission.
I'm
sorry,
we
didn't
do
it
for
this
round.
I
didn't
even
know
it
was
an
option,
but
I
think
that
would
be
great
that
we
could
all
be
comfortable
with
the
objective
viewpoint,
looking
at
all
the
numbers,
and
we
would
take
that
embarrassed
embarrassment
out
of
it
because,
as
I
see
it,
it
is
a
it
is
a
very
difficult
thing
that
we
don't
look
forward
to
doing,
but
that
is
completely
a
justified
conversation
to
have.
B
Next
up
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item,
which
is
item
number
e
human
resources
resolution
adopting
county-wide
elected
official
compensation
for
2023.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
lube's
support
by
commissioner
gershenson
again,
as
the
only
difference
with
this
item?
Is
that
we're
looking
at
our
county-wide
elected
officials,
which
include
our
sheriffs,
our
water
resource.
B
Thank
you
so
again,
everything
that
we
had
discussed
with
item
d
is
the
same.
Outside
of
this
is
now
county-wide
elected
officials,
commissioner
gershenson.
B
H
H
Five
percent
with
an
additional
three,
the
following
the
following
year.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,
so
I
have
no
trouble
supporting
that,
but
I
also
wanted
to
say
there
has
been
a
great
deal
of
discussion
about
commissioners
having
the
same
raise
as
the
other
electeds.
So
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
that.
That's
worthy
of
a
discussion
how
everybody
feels
about
that.
I
know
I'm
comfortable
supporting
the
recommendation
as
I
was
for
us.
I
am
comfortable
just.
B
As
I
was
small
I'm
and
I'm
sorry,
I
misspoke
this
resolution.
There
is
another
difference
and
that
difference
is.
It
is
for
the
county-wide
elected
officials
just
for
one
year,
starting
on
january
1st
of
20.
23..
It
is
different.
That's
why
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
you,
commissioner,
but
it
is
a
critical
piece
so
with
that.
B
H
B
G
B
Okay,
so
two
and
a
half
percent
for
2023
5
for
2023.,
correct.
B
B
B
Which
is
october
1st,
yes,.
B
So
just
to
reiterate
and
clarify
so
in
the
now,
therefore,
it
be
resolved
clause
on
this
resolution
at
hand.
It
states
that
the
oakland
county
board
of
commissioners
authorizes
a
blank
percent
adjustment
in
compensation
for
the
county
executive,
the
county
clerk
of
register
of
deeds,
county
treasurer
sheriff
prosecuting
attorney
and
water
resources.
Commissioner,
for
fiscal
year,
2023
that
would
go
into
effect
october,
1st
of
2022.
B
So
are
you
making
a
motion
for
an
amendment?
I
am
okay,
so
commissioner
gershwin
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
strike
out
fiscal's
years.
2023.
B
H
B
B
Okay,
so,
commissioner
gershenson
after
some
recommendations
of
the
language,
how
do
you
fare
maneuvering?
A
couple
different
screens
here
so
essentially
now,
therefore
be
resolved,
that
the
account
executive
county
clerk
register
of
deeds,
county
treasurer
sheriff
prosecuting
attorney
and
water
resource
commissioners
for
fiscal
year,
2023
effective
january
1st
of
2024.
B
B
With
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
read
the
now,
therefore
be
it
resolves,
commissioner
gershenson
and
please
let
me
know
before
we
move
forward
with
the
support,
and
that
is
now
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
oakland
county
board
of
commissioners
authorizes
a
blank
percent
adjustment
in
compensation
for
the
county
executive,
county
clerk
register
of
deeds,
county
treasurer
sheriff
prosecuting
attorney
and
water
resource.
Commissioner,
for
fiscal
year,
2023
effective
january
1st
of
2023.
H
B
Just
doing
the
amendment
on
the
insert
of
the
language,
or
should
we
do
it
all,
as
one
could
do
it,
we
could
do
it
all
as
well.
Yeah,
okay,.
K
H
B
B
Five
yays
zero
nays.
Let's
go
back
to
the
main
motion
on
the
table,
which
is
the
percent
adjustment
increase
in
compensation
for
our
county-wide
electives.
So
I
do
know
I'm
gonna
call
on
commissioner
juliet
commissioner
gershon
said.
I
know
that
you
two
were
the
first
to
bring
forward
a
number.
So,
commissioner
gershon,
your
recommendation
is
the
five
percent
is
five
percent
commissioner
joliette
two
and
a
half
two
and
a
half
percent.
B
Ladies,
is
it
best
to
move
forward
and
go
the
same
route?
We
did
we'll
break
it
apart.
Do
two
separate
votes?
Okay
with
that
being
said,
commissioner
gershenson
has
made
a
motion
for
a
five
percent
adjustment
in
compensation
for
the
county-wide
officials
support
by
commissioner
jackson.
Any
further
discussion.
B
Correct
we
have
two
different
votes
of
five
percent
increase
in
compensation
for
county-wide
officials
or
two
and
a
half
percent
of
county-wide
elected
officials.
B
I
would
just
like
to
say
this
is
a
little
different
for
me,
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
believe
is
the
most
significant
difference
between
board
of
commissioners
and
other
countywide
elected
officials,
as
stated
within
this
resolution,
is
the
full-time
and
the
part-time,
given
that
there
is
a
difference,
and
I
don't
want
to
discount
the
workload
that
we
as
commissioners
have
because,
let's
face
it,
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
times.
B
It
does
exceed
a
part-time
position,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
title
is
a
non
or
I'm
sorry.
The
title
is
a
part-time
elected
official
versus
a
full-time
county-wide
elected
official
and
in
light
of
the
difference
of
the
full-time
and
the
part-time,
I
will
be
supporting
the
five
percent
for
fiscal
year.
2023..
B
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
commissioner
gershenson's
motion
of
five
percent
adjustment
increase
in
compensation
for
county-wide
officials.
B
A
B
No
motion
is
occurring
for
the
two
and
a
half
percent.
In
light
of
the
three
two
passage
of
the
five
percent
right.
B
We
will
now
be
getting
ready
to
vote
on
the
insert
of
a
5
adjustment
in
compensation
for
county-wide
elected
officials,
so
that
now,
therefore
be
it
resolved
clause
within
the
resolution
will
state
that
the
oakland
county
board
of
commissioners
authorizes
a
five
percent
adjustment
in
compensation
for
the
county
executive,
the
county
clerk
register
of
deeds,
county
treasurer
sheriff
prosecuting
attorney
and
water
resources.
Commissioner,
for
fiscal
year,
2023
effective
january
1st
of
2023.
B
Motion
carries
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us,
heather
and
kyle,
and
thank
you
thank
you
and
april.
Thank
you
so
much
commissioners.
Next
up
we'll
move
on
down
to
item
number
f,
which
is
board
of
commissioners.
Other
action,
solid
waste
planning
committee
appointments.
This
is
informational.
However,
it
could
result
into
a
roll
call
vote
pm.
Is
there
any
way
you
could
just
give
us
a
brief
update
on
where
we
are
and
just
share
the
amendment
that
is
coming
forward
from
the
solid
waste
planning
committee
or
one
of
this?
A
Development
department,
letting
us
know
that
there
is
a
reason
for
us
to
have
the
solid
waste
planning
committee
to.
B
Given
this
body
does
the
posting
and
the
interviewing
of
committees
we
per
our
board
rules
can
move
forward
with
waiving
the
interview
process
or
open
up
applications
and
proceed
through
with
having
the
interviews
take
place
here
in
this
committee,
like
we've
done
with
similar
committees
that
we've
opened
up
applications
and
conducted
interviews.
Commissioner
gershenson,
thank
you.
H
H
H
H
And
the
general
public,
so
maybe
we
could
shrink
those
applica,
those
that
that
we
would
consider.
Maybe
we
can
shrink
that
those
numbers
and
then,
if
the
committee
wants
to
interview
fine,
okay
or
if
the
committee
wants
to
appoint
so.
B
In
sticking
with
what
we've
previously
done,
it's
kind
of
sticking
with
that
process
so
included
within
this
item
on
the
agenda.
If
you
click
on
the
additional
files,
you
will
find
the
solid
waste
planning
committee
applications
that
we've
received
so
with
that.
B
H
B
B
H
So
maybe
for
expediency,
we
should
get
our
recommendations
in
for
those
we
want
to
interview
and
maybe
schedule
it
for
october
11th.
H
B
So
we
do
have
two
options
so
option.
Commissioner,
as
you
just
said,
we
could
most
certainly
do
that
with
anticipation
of
and
even
so
what
we
could
do
is
we
could.
B
So
that,
essentially,
would
avoid
the
quorum
conundrum
right.
So
what
we
could
do
is
given
that
there
are
two
individual
or
one
individual
under
the
regional,
solid
waste
planning
agency,
semcog
one
seat
and
given
there's
one
individual
under
the
industrial
waste
generators,
one
seat.
B
We
could
move
forward
today
with
appointing
those
two
individuals,
because
then
the
concept
of
a
quorum
would
be
there
given
the
incumbents,
because
initially
it
fell
short
of
two
members
to
have
a
quorum.
So
if
we
did
move
forward
today
and
given
that
there's
only
one
person
under
each
of
those
seats,
we
could
move
forward
with
appointing
those
individuals
and
then
proceeding
to
still
move
forward
with
reviewing
the
applications
and
then
having
those
interviews.
But
we
also
now
have
a
backup
plan
in
the
event
of
an
emergency
you
know
meeting
being
called.
B
We
would
then
have
a
quorum
of
this
committee.
Commissioner
jackson,
are
you
making
that
emotion?
I
will.
I
most
certainly
would
make
a
motion
for
is
it
rochelle,
barlock,
regional,
solid
waste
planning,
agency,
semcog
and
industrial
waste
generators,
one
seat,
daniel
smith
and
seconded
by
commissioner
jackson?.
B
B
Five
yays
zero
and
a
motion
carries
so
commissioners,
as
we
lead
into
our
october
11th
legislative
affairs
and
government
operations
committee
between
now
and
then
please
take
a
look
at
the
solid
waste
industry
applications,
environmental
interest
groups
and
the
general
public
seat.
The
general
public
category
has
the
most
applicants,
so
that
is
an
area
that
I
would
definitely
recommend
honing
in
on,
as
well
as
the
solid
waste
industry.
F
F
F
B
So
we
do
have
another
option
in
regards
to,
given
that
we
do
have
some
time
before
our
next
lego
meeting
on
the
11th.
B
Does
that
make
sense
so
over
the
next
couple
days,
please
go
through
the
applicants,
send
your
recommendations.
Is
it
appropriate
pam
to
send
recommendations
to
you.
B
Excellent,
so
commissioners,
let's
send
recommendations
to
both
pam
and
amy
for
the
solid
waste
applicants
and
then
what
we
can
do
is
we'll
send
out
interviewing
dates
or
date
times
to
take
place
on
october
11th.
Does
that
make
sense?
Yes,
okay?
Are
we
all
comfortable
with
doing
that
and
proceeding
forward
excellent
with
that
being
said,
we've
got
one
last
item
on
our
agenda
before
we
go
to
our
final
public
comment
and
that
is
item
g
board
of
commissioners
resolution
supporting
for
michigan
senate
bill
58
and
house
bill
4314
holding
polluters
accountable.
B
B
F
I
just
want
to
ask:
can
I
be
added
to
sponsors
yeah
co-sponsor.
G
Juliette
I
reached
out
to
our
state-
or
yes,
our
state
rep,
for
by
district,
because
I
was
unfamiliar
with
this,
and
I
fully
support
being
responsible
stewards
of
our
environment
and
holding
those
accountable
that
violate
pollution.
G
G
Ability
to
complete
within
a
timeline
it's
the
economy
of
scale,
that's
more!
Concerning
for
some
companies
for
the
big
institutions,
I
completely
get
that
and
I
still
think
that,
whether
you're
small
or
you're
large,
you
should
be
accountable
for
cleaning
up
there's
just
some
verbiage
in
there
that's
been
changed.
I
would
like
to
research
further,
so
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
have
to
not
support
this
and
do
enough
research
for
the
next
board
meeting.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner
gerstensen,
I'm
good
you're
good.
I
thought
I
saw
one
more
hand,
no
we're
good
with
that
being
said,
please
prompt
the
vote
on
item
g.
B
Four
years,
one
day
motion
carries
next
up,
we'll
move
on
down
to
our
second
public
comment
of
our
meeting
this
morning.
This
afternoon,
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
up
public
comment
and
as
a
reminder,
this
is
for
any
item
on
the
agenda
off
the
agenda
that
anyone
would
like
to
discuss.
So
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
up
public
comment
like
to
make
your
way
to
the
head
of
the
table
state
your
name
community,
in
which
you
reside
in.
C
C
With
the
word
stagflation,
I
even
sent
a
separate
email
to
ms
markham
warning
about
all
this
excessive
tax
and
spend
policies
that
they
were
likely
to
create
inflation
and
stagflation
even
worse,
where
the
jobs
aren't
there,
but
the
inflation
through
the
roof.
So
I
I
don't
know
you
guys
often
don't
listen
to
me,
but
you
really
should
I
was
a
financial
analyst
for
decades
and
did
a
really
good
job
on
a
global
level.
C
C
C
You
can't
print
money,
you
can't
spend
it
what
you
don't
have
that
creates
inflation,
so
the
very
things
and
the
programs
you're
initiating,
supposedly
to
help
the
people
that
are
disadvantaged
is
the
exact
thing
that
is
creating
the
inflation.
That's
causing
them
to
have
trouble
to
put
food
on
their
table,
causing
them
problems
with
their
property
taxes
going
through
the
roof,
and
they
don't
even
know
about
what
you
approved
on
may
12th,
where
all
the
6.46
percent
of
assessments
jumped.
That
applies
to
everybody's
property
taxes
and,
shamefully,
last
month,
august
12th.
They
auctioned
off.
C
Our
auctioned
off
our
tax
foreclosed
property
in
an
online
sale
by
a
a
company
I
had
trouble
investigating
who
actually
owned
in
reality,
but
non-citizens
were
allowed
to
buy
our
tax
foreclosed
property
with
simply
filling
out
a
form
and
having
a
credit
card.
This
is
not
okay.
This
is
a
national
security
risk.
This
is
a
financial
security
risk.
It's
all
being
done
right
here
and
said:
yep
yep
yep,
we'll
go
lock
step.
So
I
did
a
little
quick
inflation
rate
walk
by
inaugurated,
1.4
biden
signs,
1.9,
coveted
relief
2.6
that
was
march
of
21.
C
J
That's
even
worse,
hello,
my
name
is
janice
daniels.
I
live
in
oakland
county.
My
comments
are
being
made
with
all
due
respect
for
a
spirit
of
discussion
that
needs
to
take
place
at
these
kinds
of
meetings.
It
seems
to
me
that
government
workers
long
ago
forgot
that
the
very
existence
of
government
workers
is
to
protect
and
defend
our
constitution,
to
rein
in
uncontrolled
abuses
of
power
within
the
three
departments
of
government,
and
I'm
talking
about
executive,
legislative
and
judicial
and
to
secure
the
liberty
of
the
people.
J
J
Is
there
ever
any
discussion
about
the
job
responsibilities
and
are
they
being
done
that
warrant,
these
pay
increases?
Is
there
any
discussion
of
current
salaries
compared
to
private
sector
earnings?
Is
there
any
assessment
of
work
product?
I
mean?
What
is
it
that
these
again
across
the
board,
pay
increases
are
given
for
as
if
everybody
deserves
the
same
amount
of
money
at
every
time
at
every
first
of
every
year
or
a
fiscal
period?
I
hear
this
common
rationale
for
your
pay
increases
that
you
have
to
compete
for
a
pool
of
talent.
J
K
K
So
we
have
our
own
problems
in
wayne
county
and
it
is
about
assessment
of
our
property
taxes
and
what
we're
getting
for
our
dollar
and
one
of
the
things,
because
I'm
a
real
estate
agent
since
1983
and
I'm
looking
at
the
budget
that
the
sheriff's
department,
the
men
in
brown,
they
get
172
million
dollars.
They
deserve
that
the
teachers
in
here
like
her
that
don't
get
cushy
seats,
they
get
it
the
sheriff
and
the
police
should
be
in
the
in
the
in
the
teachers
should
get
it.
K
I
have
a
question
because,
as
a
rental
person,
we
own
my
family
used
to
own
it's
under
a
court
order
right
now,
where
our
building
in
farmington
the
old
winery
building,
it's
a
haunted
house.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
went
there,
we've
owned
the
building
since
1977
and
unfortunately
we
have
attorneys
that
are
court
ordered
by
our
judges
over
here,
which
all
of
you
know.
I
was
arrested
and
bullied
by
and
assaulted.
K
By
a
sheriff,
they
stole
my
video
footage
and
then
they
edited
it
to
take
down
the
fact
that
the
man
hit
me.
It
tried
they
tried
to
do
it
again
this
week.
So
we're
going
to
be
at
one
o'clock
going
in
to
look
at
the
video
footage
I
ran
for
state
senate.
I've
also
run
for
state
rep,
I'm
not
winning
the
job,
because
I
don't
know.
K
I
must
not
have
enough
friends,
because
I'm
always
working
to
just
expose
things
that
are
not
proper,
I'm
a
real
estate
agent
and
we
don't
make
a
dime
unless
we
successfully
sell
a
home
and
then
we
get
referrals
because
we
do
a
good
job.
The
gentleman
his
name
is
joe
ehrlich.
I
have
a
letter
which
I'm
going
to
be
sending
to
all
of
you,
43.5
commission.
He
wants
a
298
000
for
the
garbage
that
he's
done
to
my
family's
estate.
For
the
last
10
years,
we've
been
in
probate
court.
K
We
are
the
longest
case
in
probate
court,
the
john
sterling
white
case.
My
name
is
jody
white.
My
question
today,
which
again
thank
you,
ladies
for
setting
it
up,
but
currently
the
county
has
30
000
girls
square
feet
over
there
in
the
probate
court
department
that
you
guys
are
leasing
over
that
17
and
24
cents.
K
This
this
county
is
being
giving
520
000
of
the
people's
tax
dollars
to
rent
that
beautiful
facility
over
there
for
justice.
Now
it's
not
about
justice
for
us,
but
it
shouldn't
be
the
sheriffs
that
get
to
take
the
footage
and
clip
after
they've
assaulted
me
they're
back
in
there
trying
to
assault
us
again.
This
time
I
brought
15
court
watchers
and
a
lot
of
people
that
wanted
to
get
on
zoom,
judge
o'brien,
won't
let
people
come
on.
Zoom
people
are
watching.
We
want
people
to
leave
our
properties
alone
because
we
do
pay
our
property
taxes.
K
K
I
just
can't
think
when
that
thing
you
got
to
talk
through
it,
I'll
just
talk
to
it.
Okay!
Well
again,
I
can't
do
this
because
this
is
what
they
do
to
us
in
the
courtroom.
If
this
is
not
a
circus
act,
this
is
serious,
they're
taking
our
property,
and
I
am
very
upset
about
it.
So
I'm
asking
you
guys
all
to
please
come
at
one
o'clock.
We
have
it
already
set
up
the
sheriff's
today,
totally
constitutional.
K
B
K
D
We
thought
it
was
the
general
thing,
but
you
did
mention
about
the
environment
and
in
our
studies
we
had
gretchen
rachel
hammond,
who
came
up
here
from
chicago
an
award-winning
journalist
who
investigated
here's
the
report.
It's
five
chapters
of
everything
you
pull
up,
documents,
charts
statistics,
everything
and
it
is.
It
was
double
checked
by
the
journal
of
forensic
investigative,
accounting
and
peer-reviewed,
which
means
everything.
That's
in
here
is
etched
in
stone
and
there
is
corruption
in
that
court
and
one
of
the
things
talk
about
environment.
D
You
talked
about
your
environment,
I'm
I
taught
science
and
I
know
all
about
the
environment.
My
son
won
the
gold
award
at
cobo
hall
in
detroit
for
his
environmental
projects.
So
I
know
about
it
too,
and
what
I
witnessed
was
a
false
eviction
by
one
of
the
guardians
over
there
who
took
over
mary
basso's
home
in
bloomfield
hills,
put
an
eviction
notice
on
told
her
with
russians
in
tow
russian
movers
to
get
out
of
her
house.
She
had
no
legal
warning
of
this
in
the
middle
of
february.
D
She
was
out
on
the
street
and
I
went
over
there
and
I
witnessed
these
movers
speaking
russian
moving
all
of
her
family's
heirlooms
out
on
the
lawn.
They
told
her
if
you
touch
anything
including
paintings,
and
everything.
If
you
touch
anything,
we
will
come
back
and
arrest
you,
and
so
she
stood
out
in
the
cold.
They
wouldn't
let
her
go
back
in.
D
I
got
in
my
car
and
followed
that
dumpster
and
I
followed
it
all
the
way
up
to
the
pontiac
landfill
dump,
where
the
garbage
trucks
from
the
city
were
in
line
to
get
on
the
scale,
and
I
got
my
car
right
behind
him
and
when
I
told
the
guy
at
the
tollbooth
I
said
where's
he
taking
that
stuff
and
they
said
oh
they've
already
dug
a
hole
at
the
top
of
the
hill
and
they
are
going
to
dump
everything
in
there.
D
Furniture
three
generations
of
jewelry,
paintings
antiques
and
I
watched
and
took
photos,
and
then
he
told
me
they
are
going
to
steamroll
it
over
to
hide
all
the
evidence.
That's
what
I
was
told
and
I
have
photographs
to
prove
it.
These
men
in
here
are
part
of
a
mafia
corruption
that
takes
a
lot
of
people
to
work
together.
Just
like
the
mafia,
I've
come
from
detroit.
I
know
how
it
operates.
D
You
have
a
kingpin,
the
judge
who's,
allowing
all
these
things
to
take
place,
but
I'm
done
as
far
as
evidence,
and
I
will
quote
the
joseph
ehrlich
that
she
mentioned.
He
told
one
of
the
litigants
he
said:
you're.
Never
going
to
win
in
probate
court
because
I
own
probate
court
and
he's
the
one
that
you
will
see
on
the
film
standing
against
a
wall.
D
Looking
at
the
judge
against
the
same
wall
that
I
stood
at
trying
to
take
notes
for
my
friend
who
was
losing
all
her
estate
and
I
was
told
by
judge
o'brien,
to
move
get
out
of
the
way.
What's
matter,
don't
you
speak
english,
english
and
my
last
name
is
arabic,
and
so
I
filed
a
police
report
for
ethnic
intimidation
against
the
eliot
larson
law,
which
prohibits
ethnic
intimidation.
B
F
And
all,
and
my
name
is
miss
patricia
and
lazenby.
That's
l-a-z-e-n
b
is
in
bible,
wise
and
yahweh.
I
come
to
speak
to
you
from
a
different
point
of
view,
because,
first
of
all
I
recognize
that
god
is
the
only
one
that
institute
government.
You
guys
are
only
here
because
of
god's
grace,
you're
here
by
a
design
ordained
order.
That
means
you're
not
just
subject
to
we,
the
people
but
you're
also
subject
to
god.
So
what
you
do
here
in
this
commission
room
a
board
room
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
F
F
But
you
don't
over
tax,
your
people,
there
are
so
many
that
cannot
eat
so
many
that
cannot
sleep
or
find
good
residential
homes
because
they're
being
overpriced,
we
don't
even
have
a
government.
That's
looking
out
for
those
that's
on
the
street.
We
got
a
border,
that's
been
bombarded
by
everything,
but
good
people,
and
yet
our
veterans
are
sleeping
on
the
ground.
I
have
six
grandchildren
that
serve
in
the
united
states
across
all
four
governments.
All
four
militaries,
my
grandchildren,
everyone
is
under
25
years
young.
F
They
were
raised
to
love,
god
love
their
family
and
to
support
the
country.
I
don't
want
to
lose
my
grandkids
to
people
who
are
just
out
for
themselves
with
that
being
said,
please
do
what
god
done
put
on
your
hearts:
don't
just
tax
people
out
of
their
homes,
they
need
their
homes.
Just
like
you
do.
F
Good
afternoon
hi
tasha
shergin
from
clarkson
just
touching
base
on
the
compensation
conversations
that
happened
today
at
one
point
in
time.
F
I
think
it
was
commissioner
jackson
mentioned
the
analyst
and
the
coordinator
position
for
the
dei
position,
and
she
mentioned
something
about
it
being
a
lone
wolf.
So,
instead
of
just
obviously
that
position
was
unneeded,
you
decide
to
or
find
two
more
positions,
and
I
think
that's
at
one
point
in
time
when
april
said
something
like.
Oh
no,
that
was
another
thing
when
commissioner
gershon
mentioned
the
health
insurance.
Where
would
that
money
go?
If
we
didn't
impose
it
on
the
employees
and
april
said:
oh
we'd
have
to
take
care
of
it
just
to
be
clear.
F
We
as
the
citizens
paying
the
taxes,
would
have
to
take
care
of
it,
because
when
you
guys
talk
about
all
this
spending,
you're
really
talking
about
spending
our
money,
our
money
as
citizens,
and
we
we've
seen
in
the
commissioner's
meetings
with
the
whole
transit
piece
with
all
of
that.
Taxing
senator
johnson
ruth
johnson
came
in
and
she
talked
about
how
it
would
increase
taxes
between
4
and
30
times
for
her
residents.
F
That's
part
of
oakland
county,
so
I
understand
the
majority
of
the
county
is
in
one
area,
but
two-thirds
of
the
it's
two-thirds
of
the
citizens
are
in
one-third
of
the
county,
and
then
one-third
of
the
citizens
are
in
two-thirds
of
the
county,
but
we're
all
responsible
for
the
taxes
and,
quite
honestly,
we're
tired
of
being
over
taxed.
We
already
paid
hazel
was
it
highland
parks,
water,
debt
for
10
years,
we're
done
in
the
excess
of
taxes.
F
F
A
My
name
is
susan
chargo
and
I
reside
in
wayne
county
and
I'm
sorry,
I'm
just
really
emotional,
because
just
everything
that's
going
on
in
our
country
like
united
states
is,
I
love
my
country.
I
love
my
friends
here
trying
to
get
support
and
I'm
really.
I
don't
even
know
why.
I'm
here,
I'm
just
trying
to
learn
the
process
discovering
that
the
county
commissioners
are
they
delegate
the
money,
the
budget
out
to
each
and
every
county
and
I'm
not
a
homeowner.
A
I've
never
been
a
homeowner,
but
it
is
my
desire
to
possibly
one
day
be
one,
but
at
this
point
with
this
administration
in
office
and
the
borders
and
everything
that's
going
on
in
our
god-given
country,
I
don't
know.
I
don't
even
know
that
I
won't
even
try
that,
because
I'm
just
kind
of
I'm
just
really
concerned.
So
I'm
just
here
to
support
everybody
and
and
just
say
god
bless
america
dittos
to
everybody.
A
That
spoke
my
friends
here
and,
and
I
will
be
by
their
side
to
to
help
them
achieve
whatever
we
need
to
get
done
here.
That's
all
I'm
saying
thank
you.
Thank.
A
My
name
is
diane
leach
and
I
live
in
the
wayne
county
area.
I'm
basically
here
to
support
jody.
I
was
reading
some
of
what
happened
to
her
father-in-law
and
being
an
united
states.
American
veteran,
I'm
very
upset
that
he
was
not
totally
taken
care
of
by
some
of
the
people
that
he
was
signed
by
a
guardianship.
I've
had
that
happen
to
my
own
sister
and
I'm
very
upset
about
that.
A
The
other
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
I
have
seen
the
money
being
wasted
in
our
state
of
michigan,
because
my
son
is
in
the
national
guard
and
they
built
a
hospital
down
in
detroit
when
the
pandemic
was
happening
and
it
was
not
used,
they
didn't
put
people
in
there
and
I
was
very
upset
about
that,
because
they
were
supposed
to
use
that
for
what
it
was
being
built
for,
and
he
risked
his
life
to
go
out
there
to
build
that
hospital,
and
yet
it
was
not
done
so.
A
L
In
cynthia
mevsad
and
I'm
in
wayne
county,
my
mother's
also
caught
up
in
the
guardianship,
and
I
was
a
witness
in
the
courtroom
when
we
were
here
last
week.
I
think
it
was
september
7th
for
jody's
father-in-law's
case
and
everything
that's
happened
in
my
mother's
case
is
happening
to
everybody.
L
It's
the
same
same
mo
every
single
time.
You
know
they
take
a
person
that
has
a
a
problem
and
a
furious.
You
know
family,
member
or
something
happens,
and
they
go
into
guardianship
and
they
attack
the
the
person
that
hasn't
done
anything
wrong
and
they
make
whatever
they
can
do.
They
make
sure
that
they
get
the
person's
assets,
and
that
is
exactly
what
I
witnessed
with
what
is
happening
with
jody.
L
I
was
in
the
courtroom
that
day
and
the
guardian's
attorney
the
guardian's
attorney
attorney
I
mean
the
guardian
is
brendan
fraser
and
his
attorney
was
ehrlich
and
when
erlich
came
into
the
courtroom
that
day,
he
strutted
in
there
like
he
owned
the
courtroom
and
like
it
was
very
disruptive.
I
was
looking
like
you
know:
who
is
this
guy
and
then
he
immediately
pointed
well
not
immediately.
Maybe
10
minutes
in
he
pointed
and
said
that
jody
was
videotaping
and
I
was
sitting
right
behind
her
and
she
wasn't
videotaping.
L
Then
he
had
the
sheriffs
come
in
and
they
they
were
threatening
to
take
every
take
them
out
of
the
courtroom.
They
they
ended
up,
taking
them
out.
They
took
her
out,
they
took
her
husband
out
and
they
weren't
doing
anything
wrong,
but
they
didn't
want
them
to
be
able
to
testify
on
the
case
that
erlich
was
doing
for
brennan
fraser
and
there
just
is
just
so
much
corruption.
L
The
judge
o'brien
looked
at
all
of
us
in
the
courtroom
and
threatened
all
of
us
that
he
was
going
to
take
our
phones
and
he
was
going
to
go
through
our
phones
and
he
didn't
care
what
we
thought
of
him-
and
I
mean
this.
This
is
a
a
national
problem,
this
guardianship
stuff
and
it
is
happening
everywhere-
every
state
I
was
just
in
new
york
with
senator
palumbo
and
senator
barrillo,
talking
about
new
legislation
to
stop
what
they're
doing
they
isolate
the
elderly.
L
My
mother
was
isolated
for
14
months
and
they
are
actually
working
on
something
to
make
that
you
know
a
crime
where
you
can't
isolate
these
people.
My
mother
has
dementia
isolating
an
88
year
old
woman
with
dementia
should
be
a
crime,
it's
absolutely
ridiculous
and
we
have
the
judges
that
are
allowing
these
things
to
happen.
We
have
the
guardians
that
are
profiting.
They
took
my
mother's
275
thousand
dollar
trust
and
there's
no
wrong
doing
the
guardian
would
never
speak
to
my
mom,
I
mean
my
myself
or
my
two
brothers.