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From YouTube: OCI Weekly Discussion - 2022-09-01
B
A
Well,
this
I
mean
I,
suppose
I
suppose
these
things
are
recorded
and
posted
so
yeah.
The
the
thing
about
that
is
the
thing
about
recordings
is
that
you
actually
have
to
make
time
to
I
mean
it
takes
more
time
to
like
sit
and
watch
a
recording,
because
there's
some
ums
and
R's
in
the
middle
and.
A
B
C
B
I
I,
don't
think
we
specified
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
for
cutting
the
1.1
release.
I
know:
there's
been
a
request
over
an
image,
spec
to
say:
hey,
can
you
cut
a
1.0.x
release
and
I
would
be
good
doing
that?
That's
separate
from
what
we're
doing
they
wanted
to
have
released
from
before
we
merge
all
our
stuff
and
we
can
easily
go
out
and
pull
those
over
into
the
branch
so
yeah
there.
There
is
some
Repro
maintenance
through
there
from
last
week,
because
yeah
that
recording
didn't
get
posted.
B
The
decision
was
okay,
we're
good
merging
this
stuff,
but
we
did
have
a
punch
list
of
things
we
wanted
to
finish
up
and
add
to
this
after
the
fact,
and
so
people
are
saying:
okay,
we're
comfortable,
hitting
merge
as
long
as
we
agree,
we're
going
to
come
back
and
fix
on
these
other
things,
so
I
think
a
bunch
of
that
was
Mike
and
I.
Don't
see
him
here.
Yet
he'll
probably
show
up
in
two
minutes
now
that
I've
called
his
name
out
in
public
but
yeah.
A
Here's
a
thought
regarding
taking
notes
how
about
we
do
a
status
check
today
on
open,
open,
PRS
or
like
things
that
need
to
get
done,
things
that
need
to
be
completed.
B
B
B
Apparently,
if
I
ever
do
it
without
that,
all
my
markdown
Winters
yell
at
me,
so
let's
see
yeah,
we
had
a
few
things
and
I
believe
we
even
start
on
some
of
this.
B
B
The
buttons
refers
naming
so
they
were
starting
to
get
into,
and
this
is
kind
of
one
of
the
reasons
I
wanted
to
jump
in
and
see
who
showed
up
today
they
were
debating,
refers
versus
other
names
and
I
feel
like
if
we're
going
to
rename
any
of
these
apis
and
Fields
inside
of
the
Manifest.
We
should
do
that
much
earlier
rather
than
later
so.
B
I
want
to
make
sure
that
one
gets
kind
of
a
high
priority.
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
to
but
I
know,
there's
just
been
kind
of
back
and
forth.
People
saying
is
that
really
the
name
you
want
to
have,
and
so
if
we
want
to
bike,
shut
that,
let's,
let's
knock
that
out
I
think
the
must
language
got
merged
already.
So
let
me
pull
up
the
PRS
over
here
see
how
we
merged
in,
for
this.
B
See
we
added
the
spec
MD?
Actually,
the
must
language
I
think
that
was
pulling
in
from
Mike's
comment.
He
said
there
was
something
for
a
must
language
in
there
and
I,
don't
know
which,
specifically,
he
was
talking
about
over
on
image,
spec
and
then
I
tagged
him
on
this
one,
because
I
wasn't
sure
what
he
wanted
on
that
either.
So
I
think
I
think
these
last
two
are
Mike
and
then
the
naming
is
just
kind
of
a
general
there's
been
discussion
on
that
going
back
and
forth.
B
People
just
started
by
sharing
the
names
of
things
saying:
okay.
Well,
if
refers
is
difficult
to
understand,
do
we
want
to
change
it
to
the
subject
or
something
else
like
that?
It's
over
there
going
back
and
forth
on
different
names
of
what
they
want
to
call
it
and
I
I,
don't
know
if
you
were
at
the
point
that
we
were
saying:
okay,
we
are
going
to
change
it,
but
there
there
was
a
little
bit
of
bike
shedding
going
on
over
there.
C
C
A
May
be
my
fault,
because
I
picked
up
a
comment
from
akihito.
That
said,
akihiro.
Sorry
that
said
that
it's
a
confusing
word
I,
get
it
I,
I
kind
of
get
it
because
English
is
not.
B
B
That
was
kind
of
one
of
the
comments
this
should
say
refers
to,
and
we
stuff
like
that
I
think
we
had
so
this
server
and
distribution
spec
we
started
had
on
items
in
there.
I
don't
believe
that
was
merged
in
yet,
which
was
the
updates
from
this.
B
We
might
actually
do
have
a
couple
in
there.
So
I
could
hit
merge
on
this.
For
everybody
let's
go
with
that
refers
to
call
it
refers
field
and
refers
list
that
is
changed
a
little
bit
of
stuff.
They
said
to
get
rid
of
all
the
uppercase.
That
was
where
most
of
this
change
came
from,
but
the
rate
for
specifically
said
instead
of
saying,
refers
and
refers,
say
refers
field
and
refers
list,
and
that
way,
it's
kind
of
very
clear
we're
talking
about
the
list
that
you
get
back
from
the
API
versus
the
field.
B
A
Was
the
name
reference
was
that
two
provocative.
B
The
the
term
references
overloaded
already
specifically
in
this
whole
container
ecosystem.
B
D
B
A
So
in
total
attestations
uses,
subject
and
predicate.
So
if
you,
if
you
use
those
terms
over
here
and
if
you
say
like
this,
this
object
is
sorry
I'm,
mixing
up
grammatical
terms.
Now
this
blob
or
manifest
is
the
s-bomb
of
this
image.
That
makes
the
referrals
be
a
predicate.
B
B
Yeah,
because,
where
we've
been
using
them
so
far
in
the
API
or
in
and
our
spec
changes
is
one,
is
the
artifact
try
not
to
use
the
word
and
it's
impossible
not
to
use
the
word.
So
even
saying
you
know,
the
artifact
itself
refers
to
the
image.
I'll
say
the
signature
refers
to
the
image.
A
I
guess
I
can
go
through
a
thesaurus
online
and
see
what
else
can
be
a
substitute
for
it.
We
have
a
list
of
names
and
then
ask
everyone
pick
which
one
you
like
yep
vote,
for,
which
one
you
like.
B
C
I
had
a
question:
I
saw
the
Digest
and
I
approved
it,
so
the
the
table
switching
from
reference
to
digest,
could
the
refers
API
not
be
used
to
against
the
tag
anymore.
B
D
C
B
C
B
B
B
B
C
B
Cool
so
let's
see
so
yeah
we
did
that
line
on
I'm
in
there
the
error
code
realized.
We
didn't
have
an
error
code.
If
there
was
ever
any
parsing
issue
or
something
like
that,
we
we
can't
do
a
404,
so
we
need
to
have
some
other
error
code
in
there.
So
we
got
that
in
there
and
let's
see
that
was
a
bee
bats
thing
saying
make
it
a
big
bright
note
thing
or
something
saying
that
we
can
have
race
conditions
and
data
loss
effects
and
effectors.
B
So
yeah
we've
got
a
PR
for
a
bunch
of
it,
I'm,
not
sure
some
of
the
things
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
Mike
when
he's
not
here
he's
got
a
few
thoughts
that
I
feel
like
are
getting
a
little
bit
outside
of
what
we're
doing
with
the
spec.
B
B
Most
people
is
just
changing
case
on
stuff.
So
that's
why
it's
all
over
the
place.
They
came
back
and
said:
don't
make
all
the
defined
terms
uppercase,
so
I
just
went
through
and
changed
those
to
lowercase
Vincent's,
make
sure
there's
a
big
shiny,
note
thing
over
there
italic
or
something
so
that
people
get
attention
to
that
and
let's
see
I
think
that
was
most
of
this
so
Josh,
even
though
we
changed
that
from
ref
to
digest,
hopefully
you're.
Okay
with
that.
C
Yeah
I
I'm
just
I'm
still:
oh
here's
Mike
yeah
I'm,
still
in
shock
that
things
went
in
in
a
way.
So
just.
C
B
Wait
we
haven't
said
no,
we
we
just
said
not
to
start
with,
but
yeah
it's
the
flexibility
is
there.
We
need
to
add
later
on
so
cool
I,
remember
seeing
two
approved,
so
this
is
good
to
be
merged
and
one
of
those
mic
and
easier.
So
that's
good.
The
other
shoe
Josh.
Let's
see
anybody
else
on
this
list.
Feed
batch
a
lot
of
people
didn't
comment,
but
I
don't
think
I
was
expecting
them,
but.
D
B
B
If
I
could
see
like
the
thumbnail
to
figure
it
out,
but
yeah,
all
right,
so
yeah
looking
through
this
go
to
merge
no
complaints,
I'll
go
ahead
and
hit
this
one
up
there.
That
way,
we
get
this
all
together.
B
One
last
thing:
so
with
that
done,
we
got
a
bunch
of
items
that
I
got
knocked
out,
I'm
going
to
leave
these
first
two
just
in
case.
If
you
want
to
keep
playing
around
the
names,
let's
see
to
find
words,
we
cleared
that
one
out
registry
should
the
must.
We
got
questions
on
that.
One,
in
fact,
Mike
was
that
you
asking
about
the
should
the
muster
was
that
the
other
mic
I
feel
like
somebody
comment
on
that.
E
E
B
And
let's
see
reference
digest,
we
knocked
that
one
out
error
code
we
got
and
no
we
got
so
we
got
a
bunch
of
these
done
so
yeah
since
you're
here
Mike.
B
Oh
I
remember
what
this
was.
Let
me
find
that
language.
E
B
Perfect,
this
Registries
May
reject
a
manifest
all
that
good
stuff.
Let
me
just
do
manifest
blob
underneath
right
to
that
point.
B
I
wonder
I
couldn't
find
it
I'm
used
to
seeing
it
in
the
spec,
where
everything's
separated
by
one
lineage
registry
should
accept
refers
when
it
doesn't
exists.
This
plan
we
were
talking
about
so
it's
an
open
question
of
whether
or
not
we
want
to
change
this
line
to
a
registry
must
accept
a
manifest
with
a
refreshed
yield
that
does
not
exist
because
the
question
becomes
a
few
things.
One
is
backward
compatibility
today
we
can
already
push.
B
Our
refers
doesn't
exist
because
the
registry
doesn't
even
know
what
it
refers
is,
and
so
it's
not
even
looking
at
that
field
and
so
clients
can
push.
This
class
can
push
the
index
with
the
tag
digest
thing,
and
so
we're
able
to
do
this
today
with
backward
compatibility
solution
so
going
from
the
Backward
Compatible
solution
to
the
new
forward
solution
in
there
when
Registries
do
know
how
to
work
with
this
field,
should
they
be
allowed
to
then
change
their
mind
and
say
well
you
already
before,
but
now
you
can't
push
it
anymore.
B
So
that's
one
question
or
one
way
to
look
at
this
and
the
other
way
to
look
at
it
is
that
I've
been
looking
at
it
as
a
complete
manifest,
and
so,
if
I'm
pushing
something
for
the
registry
and
I'm
copying
stuff
over
or
I'm
uploading
a
built
image,
I
like
to
make
it
for
myself
when
damage
is
first
pushed
that
when
it's
available,
you
pulled
from
a
manifest
that
everything
I
need
to
pull.
Is
there,
and
so
today
we're
looking
at
that
from
blobs.
B
So
you've
got
every
blob
out
there
already
you
can
pull
all
the
blobs
to
config
and
everything,
because
you
know
all
that
is
there
before
you
pull
that
manifest,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
add
signatures,
s-bombs
things
like
that.
It
feels
useful
to
me
to
know
that
when
that
manifest
is
there
that
all
the
other
metadata
around
that
image
is
also
there,
so
that
that's
the
way
I'm
looking
at
it,
but
I
want
to
leave
it
open
to
the
restroom.
B
Now
that
I've
completely
tilted
the
playing
field
and
give
my
bias
to
everything
what
other
people
think.
E
E
I'm
I'm
starting
to
come
I'm
starting
to
like
be
a
little
less
I,
don't
know
I'm
a
little
less
sure
than
I
was
a
week
ago,
because.
E
One
other
scenario
that
came
up
I
think
either
in
the
working
group
or
maybe
during
some
of
the
pre-working
group
stuff,
was
folks
wanting
to
be
able
to
use
repositories.
E
B
I'll,
give
you
an
even
farther
left
field
scenario,
which
is
that
a
lot
of
people
are
looking
for
how
they
can
track
attestation
signatures
s-bombs
all
that
stuff
on
things
that
aren't
container
images,
things
that
aren't
even
up
in
an
oci
registry,
but
they
want
to
use
the
registry
itself
as
a
place
to
store
all
the
metadata
around
that
data.
So
if
they
build
a
binary,
they
get
the
digest
for
binary,
and
then
they
just
say:
hey
go
where
there's
oci
registry
give
it
that
digest.
B
B
C
C
Look
where
are
we
look,
how
far
we've
come?
Okay,
let
me
let
me
think
about
this
in
context
of
the
non-image
pointer
thing.
I
can't
I
can't
formulate
my
thoughts,
but
give
me
a
minute.
B
A
Oh
I
am
okay,
yeah
I
can
I
can
put
it
somewhere.
B
Doesn't
disappear
when
the
mean
goes
away
either
over
and
yeah
I'd
say.
A
B
B
Cool,
so
we've
knocked
a
bunch
of
these
out.
Mike
I
think
did
I
lose
your
tab
here
somewhere.
B
So
he
got
the
two
officers
here.
What
I
was
going
to
ask
is:
do
we
want
to
just
open
this
up
as
like
a
quick
verb
thing
that
we
we
did
several
verbs
before
some
people
that
didn't
have
that
weren't
vocal
on
a
meeting
came
around
and
came
out
with
a
vote
after
the
fact,
and
so
that
might
make
this
easier
for
people
to
look
at
this
think
it
over
and
then
make
up
their
mind.
C
B
B
So
I
think
that's
the
big
stuff
that
we
want
to
cover
going
forward,
and
so,
as
long
as
we
get
some
of
niche's
bullet
points
in
there,
we
can
also,
let's
see
where
is
it
this
one?
So
if
Nisha
drops
comment,
I,
don't
know
if
you've
already
done,
I
just
need
to
hit
refresh
or
you're
still
working
on
them,
yeah
to
kind
of
go
through
and
think
about
other
names.
If
we
want
to,
if
we
want
to
change
names,.
A
I
can
come
up
with
more
of
outside
this
meeting
and
just
record
it
over.
There
maybe
turn
that
into
a
voting
thing,
so
we
can
send
something
out
to
the
mailing
list
and
say
you
know
here.
Are
some
Alternatives
pick
one
you
like
we'll
use
that.
B
So
that
I
think
was
the
big
stuff
to
knock
out
today.
Anybody
else
have
stuff
that
they
wanted
to
do.
We
have
any
agenda
items
on
here.
E
B
B
D
E
B
D
B
All
right
so
with
that
and
lots
of
people
wanna
watch
me
go
prune
some
old
issues
or
something
like
that.
I
think
that
was
all
the
big
stuff
we
need
to
talk
about.
So
last
call
for
other
conversations.
B
A
It
okay,
so
I'll
send
an
email
out
once
I
finish.
Looking
for
synonyms
yeah.
A
Alrighty
I'll
talk
to
everyone
later
then
I'll
see
you
next
week.