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From YouTube: Torus Community Meeting July 2022
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Monthly meeting to discuss Open Learning Initiative's next generation platform. In this meeting, math input needs were discussed.
A
A
Really.
The
discussion
points
are
pretty
simple.
This
this
time
around.
It's
either,
you
know.
Take
I'm
gonna
show
off
the
capabilities
that
exist
in
taurus
already
that
we've
just
built
just
landed
and
then
get
some
ideas
about
what
are
other
places
or
needs
around
math
support
that
might
be
interesting
or
something
we
haven't
thought
of
what
you
know,
wishlist
items
that
you
might
have
or
experiences
that
you've
had
in
other
platforms
that
you
either
would
like
to
see
replicated
here
or
you
know
you
don't
like
how
it's
done
somewhere
and
you
want.
A
You
have
ideas
for
how
it
could
be
done.
So,
let's
just
get
started
and
the
reason
I
have
these
examples
here
is
because
I'm
not
a
math
person.
By
the
way
I
built
most
courses
that
I've
built
in
my
lifetime
have
been
in
the
humanities,
social
sciences,
and
so
I
haven't
had
to
deal
too
much
up
with
with
math.
A
A
So,
let's
see
where
we
were,
I'm
looking
for
something
in
particular
here,
I'm
looking
for
formula
here,
we
go
so
anywhere.
This
is
just
in
a
block
in
the
page,
so
say
you
want
to
show
an
example
of
an
equation
you
can
put
this
block
in
and
then
you
can
click
it
and
you
get
this
formula
editor
and
here
is
where
you
can
add,
either
latex
or
mathml
in
terms
of
latex.
A
A
B
A
A
I
mean
I
have
no
other
content
on
this
page,
but
if
I
did
it
would
show
up,
you
know
I
could
have
text
in
between
explaining
the
example
or
underneath,
but
this
is
how
it
shows
up
in
the
preview
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
show
off
is
the
ability
to
do
this
in
a
question.
So
let
me
do
it
in
a
multiple
choice:
question
I
can
have
it.
A
A
C
A
A
A
A
D
A
D
A
D
Well,
you
know
it's
it's
not
the
case.
I
mean
you
know
people
can
put
in
different
equations.
You
know
so
for,
for
example,
one
thing
that
we
often
do
and
of
course
like
linear
algebra
is
we'll
do
a
matrix
of
of
values,
and
usually
you
can
do
that
in
one
line.
Sometimes
some
people
prefer
to
do
it
with
multiple
lines,
and
you
know
if
we
can
get
multiple
lines
in
the
same
gray
box,
then
that
would
be
able
to
you
know.
D
A
D
A
And
then
another
thing
I
found
when
I
was
testing
this
out
and
learning
more
about
it
was
in
our
chemistry
course
they
have,
and
that's
where
I
pulled
some
of
these
but
they'll
have
things
crossed
out,
which
I
know
is
a
notation
available
in
both
mathematics
and
latex.
But
I
didn't
see
that
working.
It
was
giving
me
a
funky
thing,
so
that's
some
feedback,
I'm
going
to
provide
to
the
team
too.
A
Like
again,
this
is
just
something:
that's
in
our
testing
system
right
now,
it's
about
to
be
pushed
over
to
production
and
available
on
our
on
our
proton
link
that
where
you
can
get
a
taurus
account,
but
I'm
doing
this
still
in
the
in
our
testing
environment.
So
I'm
gonna
be
providing
this
feedback
as
I
from
this
meeting
and
what
I've
formed.
A
A
Okay,
yeah
kind
of
a
boring
meeting
today,
folks,
because
I
actually
was
had
this
meeting
scheduled
and
the
topic
before
they
had
even
started
doing
this
development
work,
but
it
turns
out
they
were
able
to
they've,
been
working
on
it,
silently
in
the
background
and
just
landed
it
this
week.
So
I
was
excited
to
be
able
to
show
it
instead
of
gathering
requirements,
and
it
sounds
like
you
guys
have
given
me
some
good
feedback.
B
B
A
A
Yes,
I
will
caution
on
pictures,
though
we
got
to
figure
out
a
way
to
do
geometry
where,
because
the
the
thing
about
this,
then
that
we
have
to
worry
about
our
screen
readers
right.
And
so,
if
you
put
an
image
of
a
formula,
then
a
screen
reader
is
not
going
to
pick
up
that
formula
and
then
I
guess
you
could
put
all
text
in
that
explains
the
formula,
but.
B
A
In
fact
it's
at
the
beginning
of
last
semester,
we
had
a
blind
student
who
was
taking
our
statistics
course
and,
although
we've
we
felt
like
we
built
that
really
well
in
terms
of
accessibility,
and
you
know
making
sure
we
had
all
text.
I
realized
at
that
point
that
not
everything
had
been
put
in
there,
so
I
actually
were
wrapping
up
a
project.
A
B
A
Right
so
yeah
I
had
someone
write
it
all,
and
now
I
have
another
person
coming
in
reviewing
it
to
make
sure
that
you
know
there's
consensus
on
how
to
describe
some
of
that
stuff,
because
it's
really
hard
you
don't
want
to
describe
when
it's
a
graph
like
the
whole
graph.
You
want
to
describe
what's
necessary
for
the
student
to
actually
learn
from
it
right
and
that's
a
different
way
than
just
describing
it
outright.
So
it's
been
a
really
interesting
experience
to
to
get
that
project
underway
and
see
it
wrapped
up.
B
B
Or
even
equation,
editor
versions
when
we
wrote
equation,
editor
versions,
which
were
we
were
told
by
microsoft,
should
be
screen
readable
by
jaws,
the
most
popular
one
for
half
of
us.
It
worked
for
the
other
half
it
didn't,
so
it
was
something
buried.
So
deep
in
the
settings
we
just
hired
outside
consultants
to
write
it
just
kind.
A
Of
silly,
no,
it's
really
interesting
because
those
those
screen
reader
tools
are
very
adaptable
to
the
person.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
person
using
them
can
turn
on
and
off,
and
so
me
and
another
person
on
my
team
sasha
we've
been
really
ramping
up
and
getting
educated
on
accessibility
and
screen
readers
more
than
I
ever
have
in
life.
B
Yeah,
hopefully,
mathml
and
latex
have
some
powerful
built-in
abilities
to
be
screen
readable.
Yes,
you
know
more
powerful
and
more
accommodating
than
a
giant
company
like
like
microsoft,
yeah.
Well,
thanks
for
all
the
attention
to
the
to
the
important
little
diversity,
equity
inclusion.
Details
really
appreciate
that.
A
A
I
don't
want
to
say
it's
an
afterthought,
but
it's
like
they
do
the
best
they
can
right.
I
want
to
really
do
better
and
and
try
and
make
things
better
for
blind
students
and
even
cognitively,
impaired
and
physically
impaired.
So,
for
example,
I
have
a
I
have
a
nephew
who
is
has
no
use
of
any
of
his
limbs.
A
You
know
color
and
all
of
the
things
that
that
are
related
to
that
and
math
and
math
courses
are
really
like
the
toughest
and
require
a
lot
of
attention
to
detail
when
you're
building
those
out
for
accessibility,
yeah,
I'm
happy
to
I'm
kind
of
excited
about
it
all.
It
seems
like
a
a
challenge.
This
shouldn't
be
a
challenge
anymore.
D
Aaron,
I
have
one
quick
question,
I'm
wondering
so.
Latex
is
built
upon
a
large
number
of
packages
and
a
lot
of
the
different
packages
can
do
different
things
so
there's,
for
example,
a
package
called
t.
I
k
z
that
actually
will
allow
you
to
draw
graphics
using
latex
code
and
I'm
wondering
if
the
developers
have
incorporated
a
lot
of
the
common
packages
into
that.
So,
for
example,
I've
got
a
brief,
brief
little
graphic
that
I
just
put
in
the
chat.
B
A
D
D
A
A
It's
okay
sure,
no
problem,
that's
who
I
saw.
I
saw
john
anyone
call
you
out,
but
I
saw
you
on
there
and
I'm
like.
Hopefully
thank
you.
So
basically
we
have
this
formula
editor.
Now
that
gives
you
the
ability
to
put
formulas
in
either
latex
or
mathml,
and
you
can
preview
it
here.
This
is
one
I
just
put
in
and
then
you
can
save
it
and
it'll
display
in
a
page
like
that,
oops
I
mean
click
it,
but
you
can
also
do
it
in
questions.
A
A
A
A
I
like
it
only,
but
I
was
trying
to
do
text
and
it
only
lets
me
do
number
okay.
I
gotta
find
out
about
that
too,
like
if
that's
even
available
yet-
and
I
imagine
it
will
be
it's
so
important
right
so
I
have
to
I
want
to
check
on
that
as
well,
and
maybe
it's
just
a
matter
of
me
not
selecting
the
right
type.
A
A
D
A
C
C
If
we
can't
do
xml
anymore,
we're
going
to
have
to
find
a
new
way
to
do
that
and
make
sure
it
stays
consistent
because
editing
the
same
thing
in
multiple
places
always
goes
wrong
right.
If
you
have
to
do
that.
So
if
you
could
have
your
summary
page,
just
be
a
bunch
of
cross
references
that,
like
actually
duplicate
the
stuff,
that
would
be
enough
to
make
me
not
be
afraid
of
moving
away
from
the
xml.
C
A
A
A
Yeah
we
have
the
ability
now
to
build
a
bibliography
page,
but
also
when
you
make
the
citations
in
the
pages
it'll
automatically
populate
them,
the
ones
that
they're
referencing
at
the
bottom
of
the
page.
I
can
imagine,
and
we
will
need
this
functionality
done.
We
do
cross
references
all
the
time,
but
the
way
you're
describing
it
is
a
little
more
interesting.
A
So
that's
helpful
to
know,
because
that
would
help
us
that
would
help
us
build
summary
pages.
Glossaries
yeah
is
another
thing
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
that
with
and
what
are
some
other
places
like
extra
practice.
You
want
to
point
people
to
extra
practice
and
be
able
to
come
back
to
where
it
is
yeah.
C
C
With
your
courses,
there
are
so
many
places
where
you
have
to
have
the
same
information
in
our
stuff
presented
in
two
or
three
different
formats
or
places
or
whatever
that
I
this
was
like
15
years
ago,
but
I
I
just
eventually
said
wilfred.
No,
I'm
not
doing
it
anymore.
Give
me
a
month-
and
I
came
up
with
our
own
custom
flavor
of
xml
and
a
couple
of
excels.
C
C
A
C
A
A
C
So
that
you
could
put
xml
source
and
then
have
multiple
xslt
transformations
on
it,
we
could
just
use
the
existing
stuff
and
plug
in
our
xslts
interesting.
So
it
would
only
have
to
do
small
snippets
of
the
text
instead
of
the
whole
thing,
but
yeah.
That
would
that
if
you
could
do
that,
I
would
have
no
qualms
about
giving
up
the
framework.
C
And
just
you
know
you
have
a
snippet
of
something
encoded
in
in
your
own
personal
flavor
of
xml,
and
then
you
have
the
xslts
to
make
it
do
the
display
version
and
your
lab
version
and
to
create
the
mathml
and
to
do
whatever
or
for
whatever
else.
You
need,
like.
I'm
sure
that
other
courses
and
frameworks
and
topics
could
do
similar
things
like
easily
enough
coming
up
with
their
own
semantic
xml.
C
Oh
yeah
we'd
have
to
provide
our
own,
that's
known,
I'm
that
part
I
expect
to
do
that
would
be
part
of
the
the
course
person
job,
not
the
oli
job
just
making
it
so
that
you
can
say.
Take
this
chunk
of
xml,
that's
meaningless
to
most
people
run
the
sexist
access
ltp
on
it,
so
that
you
produce
the
thing
that
goes
on
the
page
and
run
this
other
thing.
That
does
this
thing
somewhere
else,
so
you
have
a
couple
of
different
pipelines
for
the
same
thing,
and
that's
that
would
be
fantastic.
That
would
be
beautiful.
A
A
Okay,
well,
no
one
new
has
joined,
so
I
think
I've
heard
from
everyone
online
and
I
really
appreciate
you
all-
coming
and
providing
some
feedback
and
insights
into
other
needs,
and
you
know
allowing
me
to
be
just
like
testing
this
stuff
in
front
of
you
and
showing
you
what's
possible
and
giving
that
feedback.
It's
amazing,
so
I'm
gonna
end
early
on
this
friday
before
holiday,
and
you
guys
have
a
wonderful
weekend
and
enjoy
the
fourth
of
july,
and
I
will
see
you
back
here
next
month.
B
A
Me,
let
me
see
what
the
next
next
meeting
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
Real
quick,
I
don't
know
if
I
put
it
on,
I
did
put
it
on
here.
The
next
meeting
is
going
to
be
teaching
and
practice.
So
what
that
means
is
I'm
going
to
want
to
get
feedback
on
how
folks
deliver
their
courses
setting
up
sections,
how
you
communicate
with
your
students?
A
All
of
that
all
the
things
around
actually
delivering
a
course
and
and
supporting
the
instructors
as
they
teach
with
these
courses,
so
join
us
next
month.
For
that
conversation,
I'll
be
looking
forward
to
that,
I'm
sure
that'll
be
a
full
hour
and
a
half
no
doubt
and
in
the
meantime,
enjoy
your
enjoy
the
month
in
your
summer
and
thanks
everyone.