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From YouTube: ORI FPGA Meetup for 9 May 2023
Description
FPGA Meetup, Matlab Class, Office Hours, new hardware, Opulent Voice, and BIRD-X CubeSat design
A
A
Welcome
everybody
to
our
stand-up
meeting.
This
is
a
her
usual
fpga
meeting
and
for
9th
of
May
2023,
and
what
we
do
is
talk
about
what
we've
done
over
the
last
little
bit
couple
of
weeks,
what
we
have
planned
over
the
next
little
bit
next
week,
if
we
need
any
resources
and
if
we've
hit
any
roadblocks,
so
let's
take
care
of
that
swiftly.
A
It's
fantastic!
That's
why
we
picked
it.
However,
it's
the
two
major
areas
that
it
was
targeted
for
were
base
stations
for
terrestrial
and
also
Aerospace,
just
like
we
identified
it
as
a
really
good
SOC.
However,
it's
not
been
put
in
any
long-term
designs.
The
amount
of
support
that
we've
gotten
from
Analog
Devices
and
that
other
teams,
small
and
large,
have
also
not
gotten
is
indicative
and
kind
of
matches
up
with
the
with
the
reality.
It's
it's
not
in
any
long-term
designs
and
everybody
from
Analog
Devices
to
MathWorks
to
the
factory.
A
Even
MathWorks
has
it
as
one
of
their
officially
supported
chips,
which
is
which
is
interesting.
It
kind
of
shows
the
hope
and
optimism
about
this
particular
design.
So
what
do
we
do?
We
don't
have
infinite
resources,
and
you
know
limited
time
and
limited
people
so
I'm
proposing
that
we
drop
the
9371
as
the
chip
for
our
main
designs
and
we
look
for
something
else.
A
A
The
9001
slash
two
is
good,
but
it
does
not
have
Jesse
204b,
so
the
9009
does
so
what
I'm
thinking
about
doing
is
proposing
that
we
switch
over
to
the
9009
on
the
zc706,
which
is
officially
supported,
and
we
keep
working
with
the
on
the
ultrascale
Plus
board,
because
the
zc706
is
a
7000
series,
zinc
development
board
and
we
would
have
a
9009
over
there
instead
of
the
9371
and
on
the
zc
106
zcu
106,
which
is
ultrascale
plus,
which
is
Neptune
Project,
is
our
kind
of
our
first
team.
That's
using
it.
A
If
we
want
to
keep
working
with
the
9002
that's
on
it,
then
then
we
have
to
do
some
design
constraints
fixing
we
have
to
to
do
some
work
there,
because
it's
not
one
of
the
officially
supported
socs.
So
it's
not
an
officially
supported
radio
from
from
xylex
or
so
those
are
the
plans,
that's
the
sort
of
the
lay
of
the
land.
This
also
affects
remote,
Labs
South,
because
they
have
the
ultrascale
plus
Dev
board
and
I,
don't
believe
they
have
any
any
radio
cards
currently,
but
whatever
we
pick
should
probably
be
reflected
there.
A
You
know,
and
we
could
indeed
stick
to
our
guns
and
keep
trying
to
develop
with
it.
But
I
have
noticed
that
support
like
from
the
engineer.
Zone
support
from
from
MathWorks
has
actually
been
pretty
good,
but
but
they've
they've
kind
of
warned
that
this
is
not
something.
That's
that's
going
to
be
long-term
supported.
So
so
that's
anyway,
that's
my
report
on
the
fpga
for
fpga
stand
up.
A
A
That
would
be
a
very
big
departure
from
our
Analog
Devices
mindset
so
far.
But
if
it's
easy
to
use,
then
then
that's
a
huge
value.
The
goal
here
is
to
set
things
up
so
that
people
can
remote
in
and
develop
on
some
some
significantly
Advanced
Hardware,
you
know,
so
you
can
get
things
that
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
buy
for
yourself.
You
know,
willy-nilly
and
I
think
that's
pretty
much
it
the
the
efforts
to
get
the
constraints
file
under
control
for
the
for
the
different
board.
A
Combination
that
we
have
and
other
people
have
done
this.
You
can
see
it
all
over
engineer
zone
so
so
we're
not
doing
something
completely
crazy.
What
we
we
are
trying
to
do
is
take
a
existing
baseboard
from
silinks
and
taking
and
moving
our
radio
card
to
to
a
more
advanced
version
of
the
one
that
has
more
stuff
on
it
and
then
making
the
constraints
work.
That
work
is
going
on
right
now
in
the
fpga
channel.
A
A
B
Nothing
too,
in
particular,
from
Lab
South,
though
I
will
be
definitely
getting
in
touch
with.
Probably
you
Paul
to
help
do
go
through
inventory
of
all
of
our
stuff
and
see
if
there's
anything
that
needs
to
be
liquidated
as
part
of
this
process
and
determine
you
know
what
needs
to
be,
what
needs
to
be
prioritized,
what
needs
to
be
sold?
What
needs
to
be
kept
all
that
jazz
and
we'll
see
about
doing
that
over
the
next
week,
or
so.
A
Okay,
in
terms
of
fpga
stuff,
we
had
a
really
successful,
Matlab
HDL
coder,
that's
a
toolbox
from
Matlab
that
turns
Matlab
code
and
simulink
code
into
HDL
code,
quite
readable,
useful
and
vendor
agnostic
and
publishable,
as
in
you
could
do
whatever
you
want
with
it,
publish
it
as
open
source
HDL
code.
So
we've
already
seen
on
our
own
evidence
that
this
process
does
work
with
lots
of
asterisks,
and
we
spent
four
days
two
days
of
theory,
class
and
two
days
of
lab
practical
stuff
learning
about
it
and
wow.
A
Was
it
eye-opening,
so
the
people
that
I've
talked
to
already
with
the
acknowledgment
that
all
of
this
is
proprietary
tool
chains
are
very
impressed
with
the
amount
that
you
can
do
and
how
you
can
control
all
of
these
different
platforms
and
what
we
can
do
with
it.
If
we
can
get
our
their
hands
around
it
all
right,
so
Louis
welcome.
Please
do
you
have
the
floor
and
let
us
know
your
thoughts.
What
you've
been
up
to
over
the
past
week
and
what
you
might
want
to
be
doing
here
and
welcome.
D
C
Anyway,
I'm
an
fpga
designer
and
I
have
used
the
adrv9009
before
with
one
of
these
development
boards
zombielinks,
so
I
do
have
some
experience
with
the
adrb
9009
and
especially
The
Analog
Devices
sample
design
that
they
have
a
bit
with
it.
The
jesty-
and
this
was
for
electronic
warfare
product,
but
that's
that's
beside
the
point,
so
I
could
contribute
in
that.
C
If,
if
I
may
and
I
can
also
maybe
even
look
at
the
you
know
since
I'm
an
fpga
designer
the
constraint
issues
that
I
think
yeah
I
saw
you
had
with
the
errors
but
I'm
not
after
this
class,
which
was
really
good
thanks
for
setting
it
up
it
I'm
getting
closer
to
being
able
to
do
more
DSP,
it
was
really
just
an
awesome
class
really
enjoyed
it.
I
do
have
the
master's
degree,
but
that
was
so
long
ago
that,
where
I
concentrated
on
DSP
so.
C
A
A
A
The
consensus
from
those
of
us
that
that
have
some
fpga
designer
experience
with
these
systems
is
that
all
the
that
you
really
just
need
to
have
the
correct
constraints,
and
then
the
zcu
106
will
work.
You
know
getting
it
to
go
from
the
zcu
102
to
the
106
to
support
the
9002
should
be
relatively
straightforward.
A
A
You
know
so
I'm
suspecting
it's
probably
clock
related
and
because
I
didn't
touch
any
of
the
clock
set
up,
but
you
know
yummy
Instinct
from
you
know
from
doing
this
from
a
long
time
ago
that
that
needs
probably
a
little
more
attention.
So
thank
you.
It
would
be
super
helpful
and
deeply
appreciated
and
yeah
go
DSP
power,
great
great
stuff,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
feedback
on
the
class.
It
was
a
whole
lot
of
stuff
to
cover
that
was
four
of
the
Matlab
classes
combined
into
one.
A
So
we
we
hashed
through
for
for
several
weeks
to
try
to
figure
out
the
content
and
we
didn't
actually
get
around
to
the
cortic
stuff.
So
we
were
supposed
to
have
a
segment
on
cortic
that
we
didn't
quite
get
to,
but
that
was
pretty
much
the
only
casualty
of
the
of
the
schedule
and
I'm
really
hoping
to
do
something
similar
with
amaranth
the
the
python-based
HDL
tool.
A
So
it's
roughly
in
the
same
category
as
HCL
coder,
where
you
take
python
code
and
make
HDL
and
whatever
we
learned
from
from
using
HDL
coder.
We
would
like
to
provide
and
communicate
to
any
open
source
teams
that
are
working
in
the
tools
area.
The
open
source
tools
are
are
significantly
behind
the
the
commercial
and
proprietary
offerings,
so
any
anything
that
we
can
see
in
terms
of
functionality
that
that
could
be
communicated
back
to
the
teams
working
on
open
source
options.
A
Okay,
yeah,
that's
all
I
put
it
on
slack
and
we're
gonna
start
up
a
a
project
repo
for
Neptune
today
and
we're.
We
now
have
the
green
light
from
the
the
authors
of
the
spec
for
Neptune,
which
is
what
all
this
platform
is,
is
kind
of
devoted
towards
towards
serving
as
the
first
project
so
yeah.
So
if
all
goes
well
knock
on
wood
and
all
then,
then
all
of
that
should
be
accessible
later.
Today,.
A
Oh
okay,
thank
you.
Oh
dear
all,
right
thank
you.
Sasha
Sasha
was
at
our
class
too,
and
just
let
me
know
if
there's
anything
that
was
good
or
bad
good
feedback.
Oh
good,
I'm,
glad
yeah,
I
learned
a
ton
and
the
the
Q
a
at
the
end
was
super
useful,
So
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Sasha
and
I.
Think
you
probably
you
were
the
one
that
first
flagged.
The
9000
series
is
better
than
what
we
were
looking
at
so
credit
credit
to
that.
That
was
a
a
very
good
suggestion.
A
F
You
hear
me
right:
okay,
I'm
not
going
to
screen
share
I'm,
just
pointing
people
in
slide
because
I'm
talking
to
my
phone,
all
right
so
yeah
so
I,
guess
the
the
impetus
came
from
from
Michelle,
because
she's
mentioned
that
we
might
have
a
opportunity
for
I'm
trying
to
find
it.
I
think
there
was
a
a
sun
synchronous
orbit
launch
sometime
in
late
this
year
and
next
year
next
year.
F
If
we
had,
if
we
had
Hardware
that
we
could
fly,
then
that
might
be
a
lunch
opportunity
for
us
and
I
think
that
I've
been
talking
on
the
rivet
Channel.
It
was
Pierre
brought
up
the
idea
of
maybe
what
we
should
have
is
a
an
Ori
ongoing
project
to
actually
complete
some
cubesats
or
have
a
small
cubesat
one
new
reference
design,
so
that,
when
opportunities
like
this
pop
up,
we're
ready
with
hardware
and
say
oh
yeah,
we've
got
you've
got
this
Hardware,
where
we
have
an
experiment
going
around
it.
F
F
University
they,
if,
if
anyone
goes
over
the
rivet
channel
on
slack,
you
can
see
the
last
couple
messages
and
then
scroll
up
a
little
bit.
You'll
see,
there's
a
birdsproject.com
website
and
and
then
there's
GitHub
repo,
so
Pierre
brought
up
them
as
a
possibility
and
I
dug
into
them
a
little
bit
and
like
the
last
launches
that
they
had,
they
had
three
identical
satellites
and
it
seems
like
none
of
the
three
actually
worked
once
they
were
deployed
so
I
think
they
had
success
before
that,
and
so
there's
you
know,
questions
of.
F
Is
there
something
wrong
with
the
design?
Is
there
something
that
they
are
improving
on?
You
know
if
you
want
to
use
them
as
leverage
I,
guess,
there's
multiple
questions.
First
of
all
does
Ori
want
to
do
of
when
you
reference
satellite
and
set
up
a
group
of
working
groups,
kind
of
work
on
that,
and
then
what
would
be
that
if
you're
going
to
go
on
open
source
satellite
route,
is
there
a
reference
design?
We
should
use
and
birds.
F
X
is
possibly
one
of
them,
and
you
know
what
kind
of
other
technology
should
we
be
leveraging
there
so
and
I'm
kind
of
my
background
on
this
is
because
I've
been
trying
to
work
on
the
Sprite
sat
stuff
and
trying
to
get
a
small
Laura
experiment
up
on
a
sounding
rocket,
and
so
but
there's
a
little
bit
of
overlap
there
and
what
I
was
already
pursuing
and
but
I
think
maybe
not
helpful
to
learn
about
because
there's
a
little
overlap,
but
this
is
a
much
bigger
project.
So
obviously
it's
not
a
it's.
F
Definitely
a
team
effort,
project
level,
so
I
think
I
think
that's.
It
I
think
the
only
other
thing
I
had
had
to
do
with
Laura
stuff
that
it
looked
like
there
was
recently
some
I
suspect
they
were
as
an
undergrad
project
where
they're
looking
at.
Let's
see
what
school
was
it
I,
don't
know
what
school
it
was
over
on
the
strike
sat
Channel.
If
you
look
at
one
of
the
last
messages,
I
posted
a
couple
things
about
some
folks
that
wanted
to
do
Laura,
moon
bounce,
which
has
been
done
before.
F
But
what
was
interesting
with
this
group
is
that
they
were
using
somewhat
smaller
equipment
and
they
were
also
using
that's
the
art
angel
with
a
plug-in
that
has
a
it's
called
chirp
set
a
chirp
chat
which
is
sort
of
Laura
I.
Guess
you
can
decode
Laura
in
certain
certain
parameters,
because
if
folks
don't
know,
Laura
is
proprietary
and
they
haven't,
some
tech
hasn't
released
all
the
details
on
it.
It's
been
reverse
engineering,
so
it
would
be
interesting
if
chirp
chat
was
a
way
to
explore
Laura
Laura
type
modulation,
but
in
open
source
ways.
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
I
think
you
summarized
it
so
very
well
and
yeah.
All
of
these
threads
really
kind
of
pull
together
towards
what
might
be
a
really
nice
opportunity.
So
I
I
had
the
opportunity
for
for
cubesats
is
really
pretty
interesting.
It's
a
lot
of
space
on
a
somewhat
risky
launch
and
it
was
described
to
me
as
free.
It's
it's
I
mean
we'd
have
to
pay
for
whatever
it
costs
to
to
comply
with
the
the
requirements
and
and
and
the
launchers
and
all,
but
it's
a
it's.
A
A
really
nice
opportunity
and,
and
so
I
have
I
do
have
some
additional
information
back
from
from
the
the
people
offering
it
and
I've
I've
asked
for
clarification.
Like
can
I
share.
All
of
what
you've
told
me
just
to
make
absolutely
sure
that
it's
that
it's
okay
to
talk
about
so
as
soon
as
I
get
that
okay,
then
I'll
I'll
post
it
and
share
it
to
everybody.
So
so
it
is
a
real
offer.
It'd
be
a
lot
of
work
on
our
part,
so
I
I
think
yeah.
A
We
would
like
to
do
a
design
and
looking
hard
at
the
reference
design.
You
know
from
Birds
is
good
Pierre
couldn't
be
here
today,
the
phrase
the
Project
Lead
for
Ribbit,
but
he
wanted
to
very
enthusiastically
endorse
a
way
forward
to
try
to
get
Space
any
anything
in
space
he's
excited
about
and
and
if
he
could
answer
any
questions,
at
least
from
the
rivet
side
of
it
and
yeah.
The
chirpsat
is,
is
cool.
A
One
of
the
very
best
presentations
you
know
about
reverse
engineering
is
one
of
the
the
folks
in
the
open
source
Community
walking
through
this
is
how
I
reverse
engineered
Laura
with
all
of
the
techniques
ranging
from
you
know,
using
the
FCC
ID
to
figure
out
the
basics,
to
brute
forcing
to
you
know
and
all
the
tools
that
he
used
so
so
I'll
post
a
link
to
that.
It's
a
video
on
YouTube.
It's
it's
quite
good,
and
he
also
talks
about
the
IP
concerns
intellectual
property
concerns
about.
A
You
know,
and
once
you
reverse
engineer
it,
can
you
really
then
just
go
ahead
and
publish
your
own
version,
and
the
answer
is:
it
depends
because
of
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
So
this
is
a
very
interesting
part
of
digital,
Communications
and
yeah.
I
think
that
we
should
should
move
forward
as
best
we
can
to
try
to
take
advantage
of
the
of
the
resources
that
that
we
have
yeah.
A
You
know
we
we
do
have
some
some
funding
left
from
the
ambassat
respin
project
and
and
we
can
at
least
get
get
a
solid
whack
at
it.
If
we
have
to
build
something
which
I'm
sure
we
do
so
I
think
my
answer
is:
is
yes
and
and
we
can
reach
out
and
start
trying
to
to
figure
out?
If
there's
anybody
that
would
like
to
to
work
on
this,
so
that
we
can
add
enough
of
people
I
think
that's
going
to
be.
A
A
Okay,
more
soon,
because
it's
exciting
to
get
a
launch
offer
I
did
make
the
rounds
of
all
the
people
that
I
talk
to
routinely
about
launches
and
I
got
a
variety
of
very
interesting
answers,
ranging
from
groups
that
can't
do
anything
because
they
don't
have
enough
people
that
it's
a
human
resources
constraint,
not
enough
folks
in
their
in
their
group,
two
organizations
that
have
turned
down
free
launches
because
they
already
have
enough.
They
have
enough
free
launches
already
to
get
their
stuff
in
orbit.
A
F
Michelle
I
had
a
question
on
this
and
I.
Don't
if
you
can't
answer
it
at
this
point,
we
can
wait.
I,
don't
remember
if
you
said
who
it
was
but
who
is
providing
the
launch
opportunity,
but
it
sounded
like
it
was
a
launch
opportunity
on
a
an
experimental,
maybe
a
non-flight
proven
vehicle,
so
we're
kind
of
running
as
ballast
and
that's
why
it's
technically
free
yeah.
A
I
would
say,
I
think
that's
fair
to
say
that
it's
in
that
category,
but
it's
not
a
newcomer.
It's
a
it's
someone.
That's
that's
done
flights
before
okay.
So
so
it's
not
a
complete
newbie.
It's
it's
folks
that
have
had
some
amount
of
success,
but
that
it
is
definitely
the
hey.
Do
you
wanna?
Do
you
want
to
put
hey.
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
it
might,
it
might
work,
you
know
it,
we
you
never
know,
and
you
know
as
long
as
it
it
doesn't
cut
too
deep
in
terms
of
you
know,
I
mean,
would
we
would
we
put
all
of
our
chips,
shove
them
all
forward
on
the
table?
For
this
one
thing,
nah
I,
don't
think
we
would
but
I
think
we
can
afford
to
build
something
that
can
can
get
put
on
depending
on
volunteers
and
people,
so
yeah
as
soon
as
I
told
what
I
can
say.
A
A
We
can
always
just
buy
one,
but
that's
a
whole
lot
of
money,
and
that
means
a
big
burden
for
for
fundraising
and
we
already
got
a
pretty
big
big
load
of
fundraising.
So
that's
the
you
know
we'll
keep
keep
looking
for
for
all
sorts
of
other
opportunities
like
this,
and
you
know
the
more
that
we
interact
with
different
organizations
and
companies
and
and
the
more
service
and
and
Designs
we
publish
then
the
more
often
this
will
happen,
and
it's
that's
how
it's
progressing.
So
it's
good
news,
we'll
just
keep
at
it.
A
E
Okay,
yeah
I'm
on
the
Family
Health
thing
going
on
for
an
indeterminate
amount
of
time,
so
I've
been
away
from
the
remote
lab,
but
not
ignoring
it.
I've
been
using
it
I've,
been
doing
it
getting
some
remote
software
development
on
a
virtual
machine
toward
getting
occupant
voice
more
fully
fleshed
out.
E
We
have
had
a
demo
Defcon
most
of
a
year
ago
now,
where
we
were
able
to
push
Voice
through
on
a
very
basic
protocol,
free
Channel,
and
since
then
the
goal
has
been
to
integrate
it
into
a
more
full
fleshed
out
protocol
stat
using
standards.
So
you
could
actually
expect
to
interoperate
with
an
existing
Opus
supporting
programs
and
that's
coming
along
now.
We're
able
to
do
the
demo
again
at
the
new
data
rate
with
the
new
overhead
levels
and
so
forth,
not
fully
fleshed
out
protocol
Stacks.
E
You
have
a
lot
of
it's
still
dummied
out,
but
I
can
transmit
and
receive,
and
we
found
some
of
the
performance
problems
that
we
had
at
the
Defcon
demo
and
fixed
them
with
a
lot
of
very
valuable
help
from
Michelle,
and
so
we're
back
to
a
point
where
we
can
start
making
progress
again.
That
people
trying
to
use
it
for
rocket
launch
should
be
able
to
pick
up
the
new
version
now
and
start
using
it
if
they
choose
to
take
that
step.
E
There's
more
work
to
be
done.
Of
course,
I
want
it.
I
want
to
implement
a
full
embedded
solution
eventually,
so
that
you
could
transmit
receive
use
it
like
a
radio
push
to
talk
and
data
as
well
as
voice
all
that
stuff
infrastructure
for
that
is
in
place
to
some
extent,
and
the
path
forward
is
reasonably
clear.
Just
amount
of
work
to
do
I'm
I'm
doing
it
nothing
else
to
say
about
the
remote
lab,
I.
E
Think
on
the
question
of
what
radio
to
use
it
seems
like
it
would
be
advantageous
in
some
ways
to
step,
take
a
step
back
and
think
about
using
the
9360
line,
because
the
Pluto
is
so
readily
available
and
relatively
cheap.
The
road
lab
is
great
and
all,
but
there's
no
substitute
for
having
Hardware
in
front
of
you
and
people
can
probably
afford
a
Pluto
fairly,
relatively
or
relatively
easily.
A
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
because
it
came
up
in
the
Q
a
at
the
end
of
the
class,
and
we
used
the
9361
Som,
not
the
Pluto,
but
the,
but
the
expanded
Dev
board.
There's
a
smallish
Dev
board
that
they
have,
but
that's
what
we
used
in
the
lab
examples
for
the
last
two
days
for
Thursday
and
Friday
of
the
class,
and
so
the
interesting
thing
about
the
9361.
It
was
huge
hit
and
very
popular
it's
in
a
lot
of
very
long-lived
long-term
designs.
A
A
You
know
because
there's
a
lot
of
them
out
there
still
and
and
all
and
there
are
still
existing
or
what
they
said.
Oh
so
well,
I
think
some
people
are
making
them
still,
and
so
that
was
that
was
something
that
kind
of
caught
my
attention,
also
the
fpga
on
the
9361,
it's
a
7010.
So
it's
it's
a
zinc
and
it's
a
little
on
the
small
side.
What
we
found
from
Everest's
work
on
the
Pluto
is
that
you
could
have
the
transmitter.
A
You
could
put
our
transmitter
intellectual
property
in
there,
but
you
couldn't
get
like
a
a
good.
You
couldn't
get
the
polybase
filter
bank
for
the
receive
side
in
there
at
the
same
time,
so
he
had
a
trouble
routing
it
and
so
that
so
that's
the
Pluto,
though,
if
you
took
that
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
9361..
If
you
took
the
9361
and
took
the
it's
essentially
an
open
source
design
for
the
Pluto
SDR,
and
then
we
decided
to
upgrade
the
zinc.
A
Then
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
good,
a
good
way
forward,
but
we'd
have
to
do
all
of
that
to
get
a
board
to
fit
our
design
in
now.
We
could
do
all
this
in
simulation,
which
I
gotta
tell.
You
is
kind
of
very
tempting
to
do,
because
my
bias
is
like
if
it
doesn't
really
work
until
it's
over
the
air
like
until
you're
transmitting
over
there.
That's
the
that
means.
It
works
you
test
over
the
years
quickly.
A
As
possible,
which
means
you
have
to
actually
have
Hardware
either
strung
together
or
duct
taped
together
or
some.
You
know
something
that
you
bought
and
and
connected
together
in
order
to
get
there
for
the
9361,
we
have
to
go
back
out
and
look
at
what
we
can
buy,
because
the
the
Pluto,
which
is
so
incredibly
inexpensive,
has
a
relatively
small
fpga.
So.
E
A
I'll
go
back
and
look
at
that,
the
last
time
that
I
looked
at
it
it
was.
It
was
a
database
like
a
design,
but
then
there,
but
they
were
looking
to
fund
it
and
not
not
getting
enough
money
and
then
the
supply
chain
problems
which
we
hope
are
evaporating.
We
hope
it's
getting
better,
so
I'll
go
back
and
see
if
that's,
if
that's
moving
forward
or
still
active.
A
Analog
Devices
for
for
a
while,
there
was
talking
about
a
follow-on
to
the
to
the
Pluto
they
were
talking
about
like,
and
there
was
some
work
on
it.
The
the
people
that
were
working
on
it
at
Analog
Devices
appear
to
be
at
different
companies.
Now,
though,
so
I'm
not
really
sure
what
the
status
of
that
is
so.
A
Yeah
well,
the
9002
does
not
have
jsd.
So
that's
a
that's
a
that's
a
big
thing.
It
just
has
CMOS
or
lvds
as
the
as
the
interface
and
the
9009
does
have
have
as
Jesse
204,
B
or
C.
So
that's
another
consideration
is
that
if
we
can
set,
if
we
can
get
it
all
to
be
in
a
modern
interface
for
for
serial
Communications,
then
then
that
would
be
a
big
win
and
we
wouldn't
have
to
have
a
sort
of
a
configuration
management
complexity
problem
for
working
on
it.
A
But
yeah
you're
right.
The
9361
is
a
juggernaut,
it's
in
a
lot
of
designs
and
there's
a
lot
of
work
out
there.
You
know
not
just
from
people
that
we
know
like
ever
East
but
but
a
whole
landscape
of
of
work
that
you
can
draw
on
and
that's
that's
non-trivial
factor
in
its
favor.
So
thank
you
for
for
bringing
that
up.
A
Yeah,
let's,
let's
try
to
summarize
this
and
present
it
on
the
list
and
and
get
some
feedback
and
try
to
come
to
a
decision
quickly
so
that
we
can
and
at
both
and
is
good.
That's
both
and
is
just
as
good
or
better
than
than
either
or
you
know
we
don't
have
to
pick
just
one,
but
if
we
pick
them
all
then
I
think
that's
it.
E
A
Exactly
that
too,
many
would
make
the
the
remote
Labs
job
management
job
extremely
difficult.
You
know
even
even
picking
things
from
the
same
family
like
sticking
with
xilinx
and
Analog
Devices
these
boards
and
these
socs
are
different
enough
to
where
it
is
a
chore
to
context,
switch
and
context.
Switching,
as
we
all
know,
is
expensive
to
your
to
your
energy
level
and
brain.
So
my
goal
is
to
make
this
as
easy
as
possible
for
everybody,
including
us.