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A
Okay,
great
so,
let's
start
with
the
working
dock,
just
a
little
review
and
see
what
we
can
put
on
on
a
calendar
for
realistic
assessment
of
what
all
we
can
do.
B
C
On
the
bottom,
I'm
going
to
put
since
we're
starting
late
later
than
nine
yeah,
although
45
minutes
so
they're
starting
starting
out.
A
Goals
and
then
take
a
look
at
here's,
the
proposed
schedule,
what's
what's
in
there
and
see
if
they
all
check
out,
so
let's
go
to
the
critical
path
doc
and
throw
these
things
as
they
are
and
let's
see,
if
there's
any
gaps
so
critical
path.
The
document
2021
click
on
the
october
5th.
That
should
be
actually
october
21st,
let's
say,
click.
A
A
A
A
That's
editable,
google
slides
here
just
bubbles
just
same
as
we've
always
been
using
and
just
doing
all
the
standard
features
within
slides.
So
anyone
can
edit
this.
This
should
be
slide,
find
and
edit.
A
What
I
do
typically
is
okay,
so
say:
we've
got
whatever
we've
got.
I
like
to
what
I
like
to
do
is
visually,
do
like
a
gantt
chart,
but
do
like
okay.
So
this
is
going
to
stretch
this
long,
where's,
the
you
know,
where's
the
height
t
chamber,
gonna
stretch
to
so
the
last
date.
Here
we
want
to
put,
we
can
put
a
bunch
of
stuff
in
here,
but
at
the
end
we're
gonna
have
december
29,
so
that
could
help
us
visually
orient
ourselves.
A
A
A
Now
you
can
do
that.
Yes,
as
long
as
you
can
do
things
like
hyperlinks
here,
you
can
do
links
to
different
docs.
A
You
can
format
it
like,
as
you
like.
The
thing
that
I
find
about
these
is
that,
basically,
as
soon
as
you
make
up
the
plan
and
and
you
start
doing
it-
we
find
that
the
plan
changes.
A
That's
just
agile
development,
so
what's
useful
about
this
or
any
anything
that
we
would
do
is
the
live
editability
part
where,
as
soon
as
something
changes,
don't
necessarily
erase
the
page
that
we
started
with,
like
you
see
like,
I
got
this
history
of
all
this
stuff,
all
kinds
of
plans
from
all
times
like,
for
example,
this
is
building
on
what
we
already
talked
about
october
5th.
That's
that's
like
page
four.
I
just
took
some
of
those
things
and
put
it
back,
put
it
into
october
21,
so
it's
visible
and
trackable.
A
So,
what's
the
last
date
there,
oh
november
yeah
it'll
be
more
like
november.
A
In
a
page,
I
think
the
question
is:
is
the
time
right
and
does
that
actually
accommodate
all
the
things
we
got
to
do
high
temperature
chambers-
not
in
here
for
example,
that's
one
omission
that
can
point
it
out
if
we
want
to
do
that.
So
that's
one
one
thing
we
want
to
resolve.
D
B
A
No,
no,
I
mean
the
point
is
that
it's
all
scalable
everything
here
that
we
design
is
scalable,
so
you
can
absolutely
do
it
on
a
small
printer
where
it
would
be
actually
much
easier
to
to
implement
it
and
test.
That
would
be,
in
fact,
the
proper
way
to
prototype.
If
you
have
a
smaller
scale
prototype
you
don't
get
into
the
like
the
large
structural
issues.
You
use
less
materials,
it's
faster,
cheaper,
quicker
to
the
proof
of
concept
of
what
we
want
to
do,
which
is
the
high
temperature
chamber
concept.
A
A
All
right,
so,
let's
throw
it
in
there
so,
where,
where
do
we
want
to
do
that
like
in
order
like?
Can
we
arrange
these,
so
they
make
sense.
Is
the
schedule
that
we
propose
here
so
torch
table
25
to
the
29?
B
A
Because
plastics
tend
to
warp
the
when
printed,
they
want
to
be
printed
at
a
temperature
close
to
their
last
melting
glass
transition
temperature,
which
for
pla,
is
low.
It's
you
can
print
an
ambient
temperature.
In
fact,
you
can
print
in
the
freezing
weather.
Like
I
printed
like
all
the
stuff
throughout
the
winter.
Here,
it's
not
possible
with
most
plastics
and-
and
in
fact
the
ones
you
hear
by
like
pla
are
an
exception.
Most
plastics
delaminate.
A
You
cannot
print
with
the
most
common
plastics
abs,
polyethylene
polypropylene
polyethylene
is
the
most
common
plastic
or
or
one
of
the
the
most.
You
can't
do
it
it
delaminates
completely.
So
take
like
typical
plastics.
We
have
here
for
recycling,
not
gonna.
Do
it
anything?
That's
so
just
rare
exceptions
that
you
can
do
it
with
now.
A
The
idea
is
to
keep
that
temperature
high,
so
so,
starting
at
like
for
abs,
like
maybe
60,
and
going
up
to
like
80
120
for
say,
polycarbonate
higher,
like
150,
for
extreme
temperature,
things
like
polyetherimide,
which
is
the
pei
thing
or
others
so
right
now,
like
the
way,
I
see
it.
It's
like
pla,
tpu
people
talk
about
p-e-t,
but
those
two
are
the
ones
practical
that
out
of
many
many
that
are
good
for
printing
without
any
heated
chambers.
A
A
So
so,
if
you
look
at
google
most
common
plastics,
then
you
say:
okay,
can
I
print
them
without
a
chamber
and
you'll
find
sorry
can't
do
it
so
in
which
sense
the
state
of
the
3d
printing
industry,
while
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
it,
the
reality
is
that
a
3d
printing
cannot
print
with
plastic.
A
If
you
generalize,
you
can't
print,
you
need
a
different
environment
and
that's
the
high
temperature
environment,
which
is
supported
by
a
high
temperature
chamber
which
does
not
exist
so
with
all
the
hype.
It's
like
you
can't
do
right
now.
You
can't
do
anything
with
3d
printing.
I
mean
that's
the
fact
you
know
we
do
some
some
stuff
like
pla.
Pi
is
a
very
specialized
plastic.
It's
it's
a
bio
plastic.
A
That
is
one
of
the
thousands
of
various
types
of
plastics,
but
but
the
idea
there
is
that
once
you
tap
the
waste
stream
you're
accessing
very
low
cost
feedstocks
at
the
cost
of
a
dollar
a
pound,
as
opposed
to
a
thousand
cents
per
pound.
A
A
You
can
you
collect
that
you
can
turn
that
into
a
revenue
model
by
actually
collecting
it,
so
yeah
yeah
you
can.
You
can
do
that,
and
but
all
of
this
not
possible
without
the
heated
chamber
and
ideas
keep
absolutely
everything.
That's
temperature
sensitive
out
of
out
of
the
heat.
So
that
means
any
plastic,
any
electronics.
What
what
do
electronics
last
up
to
they
can
go
up
to
maybe
like
60c,
like
the
the
stepper
motors
they
fry
above
60c.
A
The
temperature
requirement
is,
is
that
is
for
anything
practical.
It's
like
you're,
starting
at
at
like
when,
when
the
stepper
motors
begin
to
break
down,
which
is
like
60s,
which
would
be
for
abs,
like
if
you
google.
Well,
what
do
you
high
temperature
chamber
temperature
chamber
temperature
for
abs?
What
do
you
get?
A
A
F
G
C
B
B
A
Okay,
also,
I
just
copied
what
what's
in
what
says
in
here,
but
there
are
some
gaps.
Definitely
for
me.
It's
so
where's
the
large
printer
and
high
temperature
chamber.
So
where
do
we
put
that?
So
that's
that's!
What
the
dock
the
working
list
dock
says
right
now,
large
printer
and
heidi
chamber
are
not
not
in
there.
So
how
do
we
ship
things
around.
F
B
A
If
we
do
our
cutting,
if
you're
gonna
get
this
cut
by
somebody,
I
would
expect
it'll
probably
be
like
3
000
bucks
or
so
just
to
do
that
we
can
check
on
a
quote,
but
I
mean
these
things:
ain't
cheap.
Once
you
start
getting
people
to
cut
a
bunch
of
steel.
There's
a
lot
of
steel
there!
Actually
quite
a
bit.
The
blades
themselves
are
gonna,
be
like
like
500
pounds
by
themselves
for
the
amount
of
blades
we
wanted
to
put
in
there.
C
What
do
you
think
about
like
like
using
like
other
open
source
hardware,
to
kind
of
accelerate
that
or
as
a
contingency
plan
like,
for
example,
I
know
open
builds,
has
some
open
hardware,
cnc
machines,
yeah.
A
They
provided
any
of
our
specs.
The
first
question
is
to
talk
about
and
that
gets
into
development
process,
but
you
have
to
start
with
your
requirement
and
what
are
we?
After?
So
if
we're
after
industrial
productivity
at
a
small
scale,
there's
nothing
in
open,
builds
that
I've
seen.
That's
that,
I
think,
is
relevant
at
that
level.
They
may
may
have
some
some
plasma
tables
that
that
work,
but
then
you're
talking
about
a
completely
different
infrastructure
of
doing
it,
so
investing
in
in
completely
new
systems
which
which
have
their
own
learning
curve.
C
A
A
F
A
A
Yeah
the
small
scale
at
the
larger
scale,
it
goes
exponential.
Take
a
look
at
the
six.
Take
a
look
at
what
it
would.
I
mean
drop
the
yeah.
Do
it
show
me
the
bill
materials
for
what
it
would
take
to
replicate
the
exact
frame
we
have
for
the
large
printer,
let's
say
or
the
or
the
torch
table
I
mean
those
things
are
largely
hobby,
I'm
not
seeing
industrial
use
coming
out
of
that
nobody
does.
A
Does
aluminum
extrusions
for
industrial,
that's
that's
kind
of
like
playing
around.
If
you
go
into
industry,
you
got
steel,
you
can
do
prototyping
and
expensive
projects
at
universities
with
with
the
the
aluminum
stuff,
but
that
wouldn't
be
too
highly
replicable.
From
our
standpoint,
cost,
wise
and
and
and
access-wise
I
mean
it's
a
feed
stock
that
you
can't
really
access
in.
In
many
parts
of
the
world
steel
you
pretty
much
have
everywhere.
A
I
mean
especially
if
we're
designing
things
around
things
as
simple
as
rebar,
which
we
have
so
you
want
to
make
it
universal,
but
the
the
first
question
the
proper
build
procedure,
development
procedure.
It's
like
it's
there's
the
requirements,
there's
a
development
template.
We
should
be
tracking
each
each
thing.
According
to
a
development
template,
there's
a
one-line
embed
code.
We
can
do
to
start
any
project
like,
for
example,
if
you
see
seed
home
2,
for
example,
you
see
this
thing.
This
whole
thing
of
all
these
seeded
items.
A
A
So
if
you
talk
about
requirements,
you
got
to
talk
about
data
collection.
So
what
we're?
How
are
we
collecting
data
pictures?
How
are
we
uploading
pictures
or
or
recording
anything
that
are
the
results?
So
it's
more
than
just
here.
If
we
talk
about
global
collaboration,
that's
embodied
in
the
development
template,
so
I
put
let's
put
dev
template
in
there.
There's
timeline.
There's
goals
like
goals.
What
are
we
so?
What's
our
definition
of
done?
What?
What
are?
What
are
our
goals
like?
Okay,
so
say
we
go
talk
about
the
film
with
maker,
spooler.
E
B
A
A
You
see
that,
like
the
star-shaped,
precious
plastic
things
or
just
take
a
regular
profile,
just
trace
it
and
cut
it
all
you
need
to
do
is
have
like
once
you
do
the
cut
that
the
angles
are
at
a
right
angle,
so
it's
actually
sharp
and
then,
when
they're
next
to
each
other,
they
act
like
scissors.
So
you'll
be
fine.
The
what
happens
actually
with
the
torch
is
the
flame
carburizes.
The
steel
so
actually
makes
it
harder.
A
So
you
can
do
that
readily
by
by
manual
cutting.
If
you
want
to
do
that,
that's
something
we
can
do
today
and
and
get
that
shredder
up.
F
D
F
F
A
You
go
online
and
you
look
at
shredder
blades
and
we've
got
some
yeah.
You
can
do
that
print
it.
What
I
would
do
is
maybe
cut
it
out
with
cut
it
out
with
scissors
and
spray
paint
it
in
the
pattern
and
then
like
scratch
it
with
a
with
a
sharp
nail,
and
so
you
can
actually
see
it
once
the
paint
starts
wearing
out
once
you
start
torching,
but
yeah
just
torch
it
by
hand
and
at
the
end
you
just
grind
the
edges.
A
A
A
I
don't
think
it
matters
too
much
for
the
the
half
inch,
because
it's
so
thick,
but
on
the
torch
table,
if
you're
doing
like
thinner
stuff,
you
put
it
on
the
water
beds
because
it
will
warp
like
quarter
inch
and
half
and
eighth
inch
will
warp
a
lot
here.
You're
talking
about
it
still
remains
very
flat.
So
if
you
put
on
a
table
it's
sitting
pretty
flat
and
that's
what
you
care
for
them
to
move
next
to
each
other
smoothly.
A
They
only
have
to
be
flat
now
the
spacer,
so
there's
blade
spacer
right.
So
we
have
to
cut
out
the
spacers
too,
which
would
be
a
simple
like
a
ring,
or
I
mean
everything
has
to
have
that
square
tube
inner
profile
because
we're
putting
this
around
the
square,
shaft
yeah.
So
it's
a
simple
4x4
tube
that
we're
cutting
in
the
middle
and
then
you're
cutting
out
the
profile
on
the
outside.
A
Now
the
spacers
you
want
to
make
like
what
I
would
actually
do
is
literally
out
of
paper
or
like
transparency,
film
or
even
just
3d
print
tiny
spacers.
That
would
be
literally
like
thickness
of
a
few
sheets
of
paper,
so
you
make
sure
when
the
blades
go
against
each
other,
they
don't
rub
what
they
do.
A
If
you
look
at
precious
plastic,
what
they
did
is
if
they
have
six
millimeter
blades.
They
took
two
three
millimeter
spacers,
because
once
you
do
that,
there's
enough
inaccuracy
between
putting
two
three
millimeters
together,
that
it
is
a
little
bigger
than
six.
So
that's
what
they
did,
but
here
we
just
need
a
tiny
gap.
A
If
you
do
no
gap
it
might
like,
because
our
motors
are
so
strong,
it
probably
would
not
even
matter,
but
it
would
have
friction
up
front
until
it
wears
itself
out
and
and
the
blades
pretty
much
mesh
tightly
against
one
another,
because
we're
really
overpowering
we've
got.
You
know
like
18
horsepower
of
drive,
that's
like
way
overkill,
so
we
would
still
do
it
with
the
heavy
motors
that
we
have.
D
D
A
Yeah
yeah
exactly
they
would
go
like
there
would
be
a
so.
The
geometry
would
be
such
that
there's
a
spacer
in
between
every
blade
and
this.
This
next
blade
would
come
like
close
to
that
spacer,
like
maybe
as
little
as
as
much
as
a
quarter
inch
so
that
you
don't
have
stuff
getting
stuck
in
there
you're
rubbing
against
it
kind
of
like
that.
There
will.
F
Yeah
and
when
it's
rotating
against
the
other
side
is
rotated
that
little
gap
that
just
makes
we
don't
get
stuff
to
stick
that
will
be
effectively
like
all
other
grinding
surfaces
where
matter
will
come
through
and
it
will
go
into
both
edges.
So
my
point
is
just
that:
maybe
it
will
wear
out
to
create
a
bigger
cavity,
since
the
plastic
hasn't
seen.
A
A
A
A
Well,
we
in
the
plan
we
had
30
inches
long,
so
we
had
30
blades
on
each
side.
A
A
Can
keep
adding
yeah,
I
mean
we
could
just
start
it.
You
can.
You
can
start
our
big
three
foot,
long
thing
which
I
wouldn't
cut
those
shafts.
I
would
just
keep
them
like
just
just
keep
adding
as
many
as
we
can
start
with
four
and
see
if
you
know
or
eight
over,
like
four
inches
you're
gonna
start
cutting
stuff
stuff
falls
in
there.
You
start
cutting
it
and
I'll
be
at
a
good
initial
proof
of
concept.
How
you
go
through
the
full
development
is:
oh,
okay,
does
it
work?
A
A
A
F
Rest
is
calibrating
how
to
make
it
flow
efficiently
to
install
it
reassemble
it.
So
the
auger
sits
on
it
and
then
you
clean
it
out.
That
should
be
left
much
less
than
a
day
and
then
have
it
moving
about
as
good
as
it
was
before,
and
at
that
point
you
just
need
to
make
try
the
ones
that
are
not
too
hot,
not
risky.
A
Well,
well,
the
question:
we
have
to
specify
the
goal:
yeah,
we
can
keep
it
running
and
then
you
get
a
bowl
of
spaghetti,
but
are
we
actually
spooling
it
up?
So
it's
usable
because
if
you
just
run
it
you're
going
to
be
able
to
use
it,
you
got
to
have
it
on
a
spool.
You
can't
just
put
a
wad
of
this
ball
of
filament
on
your
3d
printer.
It
won't
work.
F
A
A
C
What,
if
we
don't
get
it
done.
A
A
The
white
stuff
yeah,
I'm
actually
not
sure
what
it
is
you
can
test
it
by
I
mean
they
have
similar
melting.
A
Well,
no,
I
mean
they
have
typically
the
same.
A
lot
of
those
plastics
are
like
you're
at
about
230
and
they
all
most
of
them
work
at
that
temperature
like
abs,
pla,
pt
and
stuff,
and
also
polyethylene
and
stuff.
But
the
thing
is,
you
can
burn
it.
You
can
see
what
the
smell
is
like
you
know,
I
mean
you,
take
a
known
sample
of
of
abs
and
see
how
it
smells,
and
you
can
do
that
relatively
you.
A
Just
take
a
lighter
to
it
and
you'll
know
immediately
by
the
the
kind
of
test
kind
of
smell
gives.
The
I
mean
we
can
start.
Why?
Don't
we
start?
Well,
we
don't
have.
If
we
have
the
shredder,
we
can
shred
all
those
misprints
so
we're
doing
with
pla.
Now
pla
advantages,
it's
a
bioplastic,
it's
not
as
toxic
as
the
other
stuff,
like
the
pl,
the
abs
melting,
all
those
other
things
have
much
more
fumes,
yeah,
it's
you
got
to
be
in
an
open-air
environment,
for
that,
so
I
mean.
Ideally
we
do.
A
The
testing
on
on
pla,
which
is
more
benign,
but
we
are
in
an
open
air
workshop.
So
it's
not
too
bad,
like
in
the
house,
like
we
did
in
the
house.
Last
time
like,
I
have
to
open
all
the
windows
after
a
little
while,
like
you
start
getting
lightheaded,
it's
it's
it's
like
nasty.
You
gotta
have
fans
and
stuff.
So
okay
window
of
opportunity
approach.
A
B
So
the
second
week,
then,
would
be
the
shredder.
I
think
the
goal
would
be
to
be
able
to
make
shred
at
the
same
dimensions
as
the
stuff.
We
were
using.
D
B
F
A
Yeah
it's
the
current.
The
the
size
is
about
like
quarter
inch
and
less
eighth
inch
quarter
inch.
That's
a
question
of
screen,
so
you
get
the
screen
that
comes
from
mcmaster
car.
We've
got
some
screen
here.
We
don't
have
enough
for
like
if
we
do
a
big,
bigger
shredder,
that's
that
comes
in
in
a
day
or
two
from
mcmaster
car,
but
that's
this
perforated
yeah
yeah,
it's
harder
than
hardware
cloth,
it's
more
solid
than
that,
because
hardware
cloth
might
kind
of
rip
yeah
as
the
current
regrind.
A
I
share
that
opinion
there
too,
but
it's
up
to
you
guys.
I.
F
Would
rather
go
at
the
cc
torch,
with
a
plan
b
in
mind
of
being
able
to
have
it
prepared
to
cut
them
or
order
them
or
but
I'm
worried
about.
I
mean
you,
don't
seem
to
be
as
worried.
That's
reassuring
about
the
measurements
of
those
blades
because
in
my
mind
I'm
just
thinking
you're,
saying
wobble
because
of
heat,
and
I
didn't
even
think
of
that,
but
I'm
just
the
way
it
will
match
next
to
each
other.
A
A
Yeah,
as
far
as
the
dimensional
accuracy,
dimensional
tolerance
of
half-inch
mild
steel,
I
mean
that
is
it's
an
industrial
material.
It's
quite
regular.
F
A
A
E
F
A
A
A
A
I'm
not
really
concerned
about
it,
because
if
we
find
that
those
spacers
are
like,
we
can
oversize
it.
So
we've
got
like
an
inch
of
tarn,
so
it
should
be
like
not
a
problem.
The
blades
are
eight
inches
wide.
A
A
A
A
A
That
means
the
the
separation
like
how
much
the
overlap
means
like
how
much
they're
gonna
actually
like
the
size
of
the
chunk
that
they
could
bite,
but
we
still
have
eight
inch
blades,
so
they're
going
to
be
able
to
grab
quite
a
bit
of
everything.
A
A
They
might
just
like
I'm
just
saying,
but
but
that
won't
prevent
the
shredder
from
working
it'll
work
and
just
have
that
crud
inside
it,
but
actually
that's
why
they
have
typically
in
the
shredder
designs.
What
they
have
is
these
wipers.
They
have
this
other
set
of
things
that
are
the
wipers
on
the
other
side.
D
A
Don't
know
I
would
keep
it
like,
then
you
get
into
issues
of
how
accurately
you
can
cut
that
by
hand.
But
you
can
do
something
like
this,
where,
where
this
spacer
is
like
six
inches
diameter,
there's
like
a
gap
of
like
half
inch
and
you're
overlapping,
the
blades
half
inch
like
that.
That
would
still
be
quite
a
good
looks
like
a
pretty
good
functioning
thing.
A
A
There's
not
too
much
overlap
of
the
teeth.
It's
just
like
minimal,
but
you're
going
to
be
shredding
stuff.
I
mean
no
matter
what
I
don't
think
that
the
issue
of
tolerance
is
the
the
show
stopper
here,
because
even
if
you
have
very
little
tolerance,
very
little
overlap
here.
That
means
you
definitely
make
sure
that
you're
not
hitting
blades
you'll
still
be
fine,
simply
because
we
got
so
much
overpowering
on
the
actual
motors
and
things
like
that.
Yeah
I
mean
the
overlap.
I
mean
it's
not
too.
B
B
B
A
Yeah
so
high
t
chamber
focus.
F
A
Yeah
small
metal
plates
like
yeah,
eighth
inch
steel,
the
rock
wool
inside.
E
D
A
This
kind
of
stuff,
just
a
simple
thing,
so
like
angles
on
the
corners,
this
was
actually
well.
This
is
actually
showing
fire
brick
it's
another
way,
but
you
gotta
seal
up
all
the
gaps
between
the
bricks.
So
you
pretty
much
need
the
like
flat
sheet
sheets
of
steel
anyway.
Where'd
that
go.
A
A
The
bed
mount
is
vertical
like
this,
so
you
only
have
one
narrow
slit
that
you
have
to
close
up
as
opposed
to
the
two
two
rods
that
hold
the
bed,
so
you
could
do
something
like
that,
so
pretty
much
like
remount
the
bed,
so
so
the
bed
holder
axis
is
like
this
and
that's
cutting.
That's
the
part
you
have
to
insulate.
When
you
have
that
slit,
going
up
the
heated
chamber.
A
It's
all
closed.
It's
the
bottom,
so
you're
going
you're,
basically
moving
the
bed
up
and
down
like
this,
so
like
at
the
bottom,
like
it's
not
going
all
the
way
to
the
bottom,
so
the
slit
needs
to
start
only
like
a
little
bit
above.
It
doesn't
necessarily
go
all
the
way
to
the
top,
because
the
bed
is
raised
a
little
bit.
A
A
frame
bigger
frame
was
probably
needed
unless
you're
happy
with
a
smaller
heated
area.
So
the
idea
there
was-
which
we
discussed
at
other
times,
was
that
if
you're
making
a
heated
area
like
this
was
in
a
large
3d
printer
dock,
the
consideration
is
that
the
area
of
printing
this
the
frame
has
to
be
much
bigger
than
that,
because
you
have
to
move
the
shroud
move
the
shield
around,
and
that
was
the
discussion
here.
A
E
A
Effectively,
like
you
need
like
two
or
three
times
the
size,
but
you
can
also
take
the
same
printer.
If
you
make
say
the
red
is
the
heated
enclosure,
if
you
make
the
shroud
only
like
go
over
a
little
bit
like
up
to
the
edges
of
the
frame
yeah,
you
can
print,
but
that
means
you
can
only
print
so
much
before
you,
your
your
heat
shield
hits
hits
the
edge,
so
you
might
have
a
smaller
area,
but
still
to
get
anything.
A
That's
printing
at
very
high
temperature
is
a
proof
of
concept,
because
that
means
oh
now
I
just
gotta
increase
my
frame
and
other
things,
so
we
can
leave
everything
the
same,
not
not
build
other
frames
and
just
have
a
smaller
print
area.
That's
all
so
so
that
would
lead
to
the
question.
Well,
what's
what
do
we
want
to
do?
What's
our
definition
of
done
is
that?
A
Are
we
happy
with
just
a
small
proof
of
concept
that
we
can
print
that
very
high
temperature,
because
actually,
once
we
get
once
we
have
this
shroud,
it's
not
like
whether
we
can
get
like
80
degrees
or
180
degrees.
Once
we
enclose
it,
we're
that's
it
it's
limited
by
the
temperature
of
the
of
the
actual
shroud
itself
which,
on
the
sides,
it's
very
high
temperature
on
the
top.
If
you
use
say
polycarbonate,
that's
120
c,
which
is
really
good.
A
If
we
use
pei,
that's
180c,
which
is
all
that
we
need
ever
so
once
we
do
it.
The
proof
of
concept,
even
on
a
small
thing,
is
a
major
accomplishment,
because
nobody
in
the
world
is
doing
this
right
now
in
the
open
source,
the
closest
was
the
most
the
michigan
tech
people,
joshua
pierce,
but
it
wasn't
a
true
high
temperature
thing.
They
had
a
high
temperature,
they
had
temperature
sensitive
components
inside
still
so.
F
A
A
A
F
A
A
D
B
All
right
so
then,
the
only
other
thing
that
I
think
I
would
like
to
sort
of
add
into
the
discussion
is
on
the
filament
makers:
cooler
side
of
things.
That
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
dive
deeper
into
the
universal
controller
and
actually
doing
sort
of
controller
design
right,
because
it's
a
really
really
simple
controls.
G
B
D
B
B
What
I'm
really
saying
is
this:
is
the
project
focused
look
at
the
next
six
weeks
and
then
there
are
like
the
the
underlying
educational
goals
that
I
still
want
to.
B
B
Learning
about
hydraulic
system
design
and
building
the
structure
at
this
point
right,
but
the
the
ced
press.
You
know
I
want
to
learn
about
power
keys
and
I
want
to
learn
about
hydraulic
design
right.
That's
really
the
draw
for
the
cd
press
and
for
me,
it's
less
about
making
brakes
it's
more
about
understanding
how
we're
human
and
hydraulic
system
design
right.
B
So
I
guess
those
are
the
big
things
that
that
I
still
want
to
make
sure
are
you
know,
because
we're
looking
at
this
again
from
a
project
point
of
view
and
one
of
my
comments.
Yesterday,
it's
less
about
building
prototypes
and
more
about
building
capacity.
So
I'm
going
to
make
sure
that
I'm
getting
certain
educational.
D
D
A
So
so,
third
week
of
november,
so
fourth
week
well
third
week
so
15
through
19.,
so
cb
press
is
what
we're
saying.
F
A
A
Just
you
get
a
valve,
you
go
a
two-spool
valve
because
we
got
two
motors,
so
you
connect
hydraulics
from
one
to
one
motor
and
the
other
spool.
You
connect
it
to
the
other
motor.
It's
two
hoses,
but
it's
actually
three
hoses.
There's
a
return,
there's
a
small
hose,
which
is
called
the
case
drain,
which
is
like
the
lubricating
bypass
fluid.
So
you
actually
have
three
hoses,
but
none
of
that
is
any
challenging.
A
There's
only
one
one
issue
I
have
with
that,
so
we
got
five
days
now.
You
guys
take
a
look
at
the
comments
on
the
number
of
people
versus
how
much
we
can
do.
Did
that
make
any
sense.
A
A
When,
when
I
say
one
day,
I
mean
it's
a
long
day
into
the
night
means
like
8
a.m,
and
then
some
people
are
still
around
there
at
like
11
p.m
and
stuff
finishing
up
so
in
practice
it
means
two
days
for
a
normal
person,
so
think
of
it
as
12
people
over
two
days.
B
F
A
People
well
so
how
many
days
do
we
have
for
that
for
so
right
now
we're
saying
five
days
on
that,
if
you
count
so
it's
two
days
with
12,
so
think
about
24
mandates,
so
you've
got
eight.
B
So
I'm
thinking,
maybe
the
first-
you
know
the
morning
of
the
first
day
we'll
do
an
overall
okay.
This
is
a
cv
press.
These
are
all
the
sub
systems.
You
know,
the
mechanical
is
the
structure.
There's
the
hydraulic
system.
There's
the
controls
band,
everybody
kind
of
gets
the
stage
set
and
then
I'm
guessing
the
first
day
and
a
half
are
really
going
to
be
welding
closely.
Just
actually
taking
the
cut
metal
pieces,
putting
it
all
together
and
then
you
have
power
cube.
A
A
Everything
goes
according
to
plan,
but
we
have
the
other
controller,
which
is
not
universal
controller,
based.
It's
still
an
arduino
with
a
selector
switch
for
the
brick
thickness
and
solenoid
controls
and
pressure
sensor
and
stuff
like
that.
So
we'll
build
that
and
we
can't
we
wouldn't
have
enough
time
to
innovate
on.
What's
what
the
adaptation
of
the
control,
the
universal
controller
will
be
largely
like
functionality,
things
like
packaging
and
there's
a
bunch
of
detail
that
goes
into
that,
but
yeah
we
could
do
the
what
we
have
already
replicate.
A
It's
doable,
but
it's
not
gonna
be
easy.
It's
a
it's!
A
thousand
six
hundred
pound
machine.
It's
a
big
one!
So
yeah
that
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
that
it
is
hard
work.
It's
heavy
heavy
machine
pieces
you
need
to
use,
use
the
hoist
to
move
it
around
and
stuff
like
that.
A
There's
it's
more
difficult
than,
I
would
say,
say
the
3d
printer
frame,
because
now
you
have
to
be
precise,
you
cannot
there's
like
no
adjustment
for
all.
If
you
don't
get
it
square,
you
can
do
an
auto
parallel
mechanism.
Now
it
doesn't
work
that
way
here
here,
everything's
got
to
be
square.
So
that's
that's
the
challenge.
It
does
require
a
little
little
more
skill
than
I
would
say,
like
the
3d
printer
frame,
where
we
weld
it
up,
because
we've
got
the
pieces
cut
as
long
as
they
meet
up
we're
fine.
A
Here
you
have
to
pay
more
attention.
It's
a
place
where
a
person
like
like
ben
is
useful
because
ben,
for
example,
can
square
things
up
effectively
and
stuff
like
that.
But.
E
A
F
A
Yeah,
so
all
the
cnc
cut
pieces
are
in
stock
right
now.
I
did
not
inventory
the
order
in
terms
of
oh
verify
that
every
single
piece
is
here.
We
can
do
that,
and
that
would
be
a
good
thing
to
do
like
soon
that
compar
compared
to
all
the
plans
that
we
have
everything
is
there.
Otherwise,
if
you're,
if
we
don't
have
some
pieces,
we
can
probably
you
know
just
cut
out
some
and
stuff
like
that.
So
there's
a
backup.
A
We've
got
cnc
cut
and
that's
what
enables
it
to
be
pretty
fast,
there's
a
few
pieces.
The
alignment
part
is
the
part.
That's
I
would
say
the
challenging
there's.
Definitely
the
hydraulics,
where
we
pretty
much
gotta
weld
up
this.
So
we
got
this
big
cylinder.
A
You
got
this
press
foot
that
has
to
be
very
much
square
right
on
top
putting
that
in
the
main
chamber,
the
drawer,
slides
in
and
out,
it's
actually
got
some
3d
printed
pieces,
but
we
need
to
do
a
few
3d
printed
pieces
because
it
slides
on
one
inch
rods,
just
like
the
big
printer
that
the
drawer
slides
on
one
inch
rods
back
and
forth
yeah.
So
basically
like
four
carriages
for
four
four
bearings.
Still,
the
one-inch
bearings
that
we've
been
using
same
thing
actually
so,
but.
D
A
The
hydraulics
we've
got
the
valves.
We
have
to
order
the
just
the
electronic
controller
parts
which
are
which
the
blm
does
exist.
So
we've
got
if
you
want
to
start
taking
a
look
at
I
mean
what
would
really
help
if
somebody
take
took
a
look
at
the
controller
document
and
actually
prepare
that,
like
be
on
top
of
that,
because
I
can
only
be
in
so
many
places.
A
A
This
is
the
controller
so
we're
using
we're
basically
going
with
cb
press
1708,
which
is
our
release
and
controller.
We
did
an
upgrade
of
the
controller
since
then
1901,
so
the
check
mark
here
that's
relevant
and
the
controller
1901
there's
a
full
instruction.
That's
what
it
is.
It's
an
arduino
selector
switch
a
pressure
switch
on
the
machine,
that's
the
very
first
original
one,
but
you
got
solenoids
that
you
gotta
wire
up.
A
There's
how
the
block
the
solenoid
valves
mount
on
the
blocks?
Here's
the
pressure
sensor,
selector,
here's
like
wiring,
so
we're
using
this
relay
to
drive
the
solids.
This
relay
hat,
it's
a
it's
a
shield
for
the
arduino,
we're
using
a
mega
arduino
mega.
A
You
got
plugs
in
for
so
there's
plugs
like
these
automotive
plugs
they're
exterior
rated.
So
this
thing
is
outside.
We
have
these
plugs
hanging
out
of
the
controller
box
up
down
left
right.
You
got
to
put
this
flyback
diode
across
the
solenoids
for
sparks
not
happening
the
controller
box.
It's
like
it's
weatherproof!
A
That's
like
future
work.
Just
have
it
use
the
universal
controller
where
you
have
on
the
screen,
select
your
brick
thickness
and
stuff.
It's
actually
much
more
convenient
than
this,
because
here
you
got
a
wire,
you
got
this
fat
switch.
It's
got
all
these
wire
connections
and
all
that
you
eliminate
all
that
with
just
this
simple
selector
switch
and
screen,
because
you
just
turn
and
that's
already
there-
you
don't
have
to
do
any
extra
wiring
for
that.
B
F
Yeah,
I
think
anything
that
would
make
the
this
and
that
line
of
thinking
or
participating
what
we
need
to
do
given
now
that
we
have
started
society's
off
when
we
keep
maybe
charge
our
batteries
and
do
even
more
focus
to
work
that
like
before
a
monday
session.
Maybe
we
have
a
an
update
on
where
we're
at
or
something
I
mean
it
could
be
done
within
the
team
too,
but
any
support
in
that
direction.
Where
maybe
you
took
a
trip
through
the
workshop,
and
you
saw
the
focus
things
going.
A
F
Say
before
the
morning
monday,
and
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
list
you
can
present
where
you
like,
I
went
through
the
workshop.
Here's
where
we
act
with
this
machine.
These
are
the
three
things
we
need
to
do
today
and
then
we
bring
those
topics
into
the
meeting
that
the
meeting
be
about
those
specifically
how
to
be
for
five
minutes.
A
I
mean
the
ideal
thing
from
my
perspective
is
like
there's:
data
collection,
there's
a
development
spreadsheet,
there's
data
collection
like
take
pictures
and
log
log
things
like
basic
protocols
around
here
start
your
work
log
like
a
manual
log
martian
logo,
whoever
put
all
the
links
like.
If
what
like
pictures,
I
mean
data
collection
is
mostly
like.
Okay,
take
pictures
and
write
things
down,
yeah.
F
A
Whatever
way
possible,
so
then
it
becomes
easy,
like
we've
got
the
blueprints
of
what
we're,
what
we're
trying
to
work
on,
but
in
the
development
template.
You
start
with
your
requirements,
your
concept
design,
and
we
want
to
fork
that
for
every
project,
because
we're
going
to
change
different
things
every
time
we
we
do
it.
That's
why
that's?
A
The
comment
like
every
build
is
effectively
a
fork
because
not
everything
is
going
to
be
the
same
ever,
but
that's
where
what
I
would
suggest
on
that
is
use
the
development
template
and
between
the
working
dock
data
collection
like
it
would
be
easy
for
me
to
review
it.
If,
if
I
first
know
like
okay,
what
did
you
try
to
do
here?
So
where
does
that
go?
Well,
that's
conceptual
design
or
maybe
requirements.
So
if
you
can
keep
track
of
all
of
that,
it
makes
it
easy
for
to
actually
build
upon
it
here.
A
We're
we're
doing
some
planning
on
what
some
of
our
goals
are,
but
then,
once
we
start
implementing
it,
we
do
want
to
keep
a
paper
trail.
The
easiest
thing
there
being
the
working
docs
that
we
typically
do,
which
would
be
like
in
the
development
template
that
would
be
conceptual
design,
so
we
can.
So
what
do
we
do?.
B
I
have
a
recommendation
for
like
right
now
and
then
also
for
future
workshops,
so
my
recommendation
for
right
now
would
be
tomorrow's
morning
meeting.
Can
we
use
that
to
go
over
to
development,
template
data
collection
and
logs,
because
to
me
it's
a
little
nebulous
and
I
think
if
we
just
sit
down
for
an
hour,
a
contributor
at
osc,
you
know
this
is
how
you
start
your
law.
This
is
how
we
usually
organize
data
report
a
project.
This
is
how
we
begin
the
development
template.
We
just
kind
of
go
through
that.
B
I
think
that
would
be
really
useful
and
then
I
would
feel
empowered
to
go
out
there.
Take
pictures,
video
all
that
stuff
and
know
how
to
put
it
on
looking
correctly.
So
I
think
we
can
do
that,
probably
within
an
hour
and
make
that
the
focus
of
tomorrow
and
then
maybe
in
the
future,
for
workshops
that
might
be
something
to
leave
with,
so
that
every
contributor
sort
of
knows
how
to
do
that
in
the
way
that's
organized
and
something's
gonna
get
something
out
of
it,
because
a
lot
of.
E
B
A
No,
of
course
not
because
it
takes
discipline
to
actually
do
it
takes
time
and
discipline
and
knowledge
there's
a
boatload
of
info
on
us
if
you
want
to
get
a
head
start
on
tomorrow's
discussion,
look
at
a
page
on
the
wiki,
because
I
I've
done
this
presentation
a
number
of
times
already.
It's
called
collaborative
literacy.
A
2021
20
2019,
there's
a
there's,
a
webinar
there's
there's
this
session
from
new
zealand,
which
was
decent
2019
discussion
with
eugene
kim.
I
think
eugene
kim
actually
coined
the
frame
collaborative
literacy
so
and
then
kind
of
independently.
Like
I
didn't
know
that
I
I
started
using
the
word,
and
I
found
that
I
was
googling
it
and
found
him
behind
it.
So
I
talked
to
him
there's
a
decent
discussion.
A
There,
there's
collaborative
literacy
that
was
like,
I
think,
2018,
there's
principles
and
procedures
collaboration
protocol,
but
it's
like
idea
is
that
in
a
in
a
more
philosophical
sense
or
more
abstract
viewpoint
is
that
the
critical
understanding
of
it
goes
back
down
to
general
semantics
and
time
binding.
A
If
you
guys
know
what
those
words
mean,
but
nobody
does,
because
we
don't
learn
about
this,
but
but
time
binding
is
of
course
our
unique
capacity
to
learn
upon.
You
know
build
upon
prior
knowledge,
and
that
completely
applies
to.
If
you
do
open,
source
and
information
is
open,
then
the
amount
of
stuff
you
can
do
and
how
you
can
like
facilitate
and
accelerate
the
kind
of
learning
now
with
the
coming
of
the
internet
ages.
Just
exploded,
but
I
don't
feel
like
anybody's
really
using
that
power.
A
You
know
not
at
all
it's
like,
but
the
idea
is
there
is
that
if
you
understand
it,
you
can
say
that
wait
wait
a
minute.
We
can
actually
all
collaboratively,
develop
products
and
rework
the
entire
economy
like
bam
in
a
second.
If
people,
if
many
many
more
people,
understood
the
idea
that
it's
even
possible,
but
it
is
that
here
we're
showing
that
oh
yeah
well,
you
could
actually
then
build
crazy
things
that
formerly
industrial
systems
were
needed
for
this
digital
fabrication.
A
Where
this
is
our
new
economy,
our
new
life
way
of
living
and
economics
in
the
broad
sense,
like
economics,
comes
from
the
word
housekeeping.
That's
how
we
keep
house
collaboratively
across
the
whole
world
and
nobody's
left
out.
A
I
use
the
also
added
the
term
economic
time
binding,
which
is
that
that
capacity
to
learn
and
build
upon
rapidly
in
an
economic
sense
that
you
can
develop
new
products
to
the
point
where
the
inevitable
end
is
distributed:
market
substitution,
meaning
that
every
single
product
out
there
it's
it
just
becomes
there
becomes
the
optimal
open
source
collaboratively,
developed
version
which
has
got
all
that
competitive
waste
taken
out
of
it.
It's
bigger,
better,
faster
stronger
and
it
leads
to
the
substance
of
a
new
really
a
new
economic
paradigm.
A
So
that's
that's
the
thing
behind
collaborative
literacy
and
then
it
comes
down
to
okay,
that's
cool
theory.
But
how
do
you
actually
implement
it
and
there's
tools
and
techniques
which
we
can
there's
all
those
tools
are
here
and
there's
many
choices
we
can
take,
but
it's
like
it's
gotta,
be
open
source,
collaborative
scalable,
high
performance
and
all
that
all
the
kind
of
stuff
that's
embodied
in
all
of
these
specifications.
A
If
you
read
through
that,
so
there's
a
bunch
of
this
underlying
knowledge
or
assumptions
that
like
when
I
speak-
and
I
present
about
this-
it's
I'm
trying
to
throw
it
in
there.
But
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
there
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
from
the
osc
spec,
the
collaborative
literacy
part,
and
I
do
still
say
that
the
collaborative
literacy
part
is
the
part.
That's
missing,
there's
not
not
like
any
technological
or
no
technological
barriers
or
first
principle,
barriers
to
why
we
cannot
thrive
as
a
civilization.
A
That's
a
pretty
deep
topic
and
we
can
all
contribute
to
that
and
I
wish
more
people
could
would
learn
about
it.
So
my
goal
is:
is
to
try
to
teach
that
better
and
it's
yeah
there's
a
lot
to
it,
but
start
with
that,
and
we
can
talk
about
just
the
basics
of
how
we
do
things
around
here.
D
A
G
A
Camera's
good,
it
sounds
good
because
that's
a
nice,
expensive
camera
canon
sl
just
need
the
lens.
It's
the
75
to
300
millimeter
telephoto.
C
Well,
what
do
you
think
about
streaming?
The
workshop
live
in
the
internet,
always.
E
C
A
Well,
we
want
the
time
lapse
thing
because
I
mean
I'm
doing
all
that
because
we're
actually
getting
good
data
out
of
it
and
see
how
long
things
take
like
how
the
workflow
actually
goes.
It's
actually
really
good
stuff
to
study.
It
looks
like
just
like
a
timeless,
but
you
can
get
a
lot
of
info
out
of
that.
If
you
study
it.
C
Think
I
mean
yeah
if
you're,
if
you're,
instead
of
getting
a
lens,
I
would
if
you're
gonna
pay
like
this
is
300.
So
it's
a
little
bit
more,
but
it's
4k.
It
can
run.
Computer
vision.
Can
stream
the
internet
through
ethernet
24
7.,
it's
pretty
durable.
Does.
E
A
Well,
I
mean
we
still
need
the
lens,
because
that's
more
like
for
communications
and
it's
part
of
the
data
collection
stuff.
So
no,
I
would
still
there
will
be
something
like
more
on
top
of
that,
if
we
wanted
to
go
more,
yeah
is
the
is
the
hardware
design
open
source
or
no
so.
C
C
A
C
C
The
level
of
like,
I
guess,
like
purity
of
products
we
need
to
use,
should
be
like
whether
like
if
the
open
source
thing
is
designed
with,
you
know
like
a
different
cad
software
than
freecad.
You
can
import
it
into
freecad
as
stl
or
something
sounds.
A
A
D
A
Take
a
look
at
that
all
right,
so
for
today,
what
what
are
we
doing?
I
mean
one
thing:
it's
like
we
should
like
clean
up
the
shop.
That
step
is
all
over
the
place
like
put
everything
back
and
do
a
little
house
cleaning
in
the
shop
if
we're
yeah.
So
what's
the
plan
for
today,
what
are
we
doing.