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From YouTube: 3D Printing for Education in South Africa
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Meeting 3, OSE Fellow in Training. See Lesego Log - https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lesego_Log#Fri_Sep_25.2C_2020
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A
Easy
at
least
it's
slowing
down,
to
be
honest,
I'm
only
recovering
from
yesterday
yeah
and
yeah.
I
was
quite
a
bit
under
pressure
for
the
past
two
weeks.
That's
why
I
apologize.
I
couldn't
make
it
on
last
week's
meeting,
because
there
was
some
pressure
and
some
word
that
came
through.
So
it
was
a
bit
of
pleasure,
a
a.
C
Yeah,
yes,
yes,
did
you
get,
did
you
get
any
chance
to
find
out
anything
about
the
cost
of
parts
or
anything,
no
sure.
A
To
be
honest,
the
last
time
we
spoke,
I
it
was
where
I
left
everything
I
I
I've
been
on
site
throughout
the
years,
so
I
haven't
yet
so
what
I've
done
when
I
was
trying
to
send
them.
I'd
already
asked
somebody
to
give
me
the
course,
but
then
I
I
I
I
had
to
hang
it
because
of
what
I
okay.
I
was
going
yeah.
A
A
A
Yes,
I
I
still
wanted
to
find
out.
To
be
honest.
I
was
keen
on
finding
out
so
that
I
can
also
let
you
know
so
that
it's
it's
easier
also
for
the
other
fellows
that
will
come.
You
know
on
this
on
the
african
side,
so
at
least
we
have
both
the
prices,
so
I
think
it
also
helps
us
on
your
site
as
well,
to
also
know
that
the
sort
of
the
the
cost
estimates
this
site.
A
So
I
don't
know
yes,
yes,
is
that
what
I
was
thinking
is
that
I'm
also
trying
to
speed
up
things
so
that
we
can
get
to
the
practical
side
yeah,
but
yeah.
So
unfortunately,
is
this
working
stuff.
That
sort
of
keep
keep
on
interrupting
me,
so
I
really
wanted
by
now
to
be
sort
of
getting
started,
or
at
least
having
the
order,
some
of
the
stuff
coming
through
so
yeah.
A
Yes,
because
I
would,
I
don't
think
it's
something
that
would
take
long,
the
guy
that
I
spoke
to
wasn't
very
far
and
then
he
looked
and
he
looked
like
somebody
who
could
do
the
the
costing
very
speedily.
So
the
only
issues
I
I
wanted
to
issue
him,
the
the
the
the
drawings
the
stl
files
as
they
are,
but
then
I
realized
there
was
a
cost
into
it.
A
I
didn't
want
to
give
him
sort
of
a
guide
what
what
it
would
cost
normally
from
your
side,
so
I
just
wanted
him
to
price
from
his
own
or
just
on
his
own,
without
really
any
sort
of
guidance.
Okay.
Yes,
so
I'm
sure
it's
something
that
I
I
can
have
on
monday.
First
thing
I
can
send
to
the
guy:
maybe
I'll
try
a
few
other
guys.
I
only
called
one
guy
at
that
time
and
then
I
can
try
two
or
three
dice.
A
C
That's
that's
cool,
so
what
should
we
do
today,
then?
Do
you
have
anything
specific
in
mind
or.
A
I
think
it
was
just
that,
oh
I
don't
know
how,
because
really
what
I
was
trying
to
get
to
was
to
sort
of
find
a
way
to
quickly
speed
up
things.
So
there's
also
a
friend
that
I
spoke
to
with
regards
to
the
touch
table
and
they
do
have
a
a
fully
established
shop.
So
these
guys
are,
they
they've
got
a
foundry
and
then
they've
got
a
shop
which
they're
not
really
using
on
a
full-time
basis.
A
So
I
said
in
the
meantime,
while
I'm
trying
to
get
off
the
ground,
I
can
sort
of
sort
of
be
on
their
back.
I
don't
know
how
much
work
I
have
to
do
at
their
side,
but
then
the
guy
said.
Look.
We
can
work
a
schedule
out
because
remember
there
was
two
things
that
I
had
to
do
critically
on
on.
My
critical
path
was
the
3d
parts
3d
printed
parts
and
the
sort
of
the
space
to
do
the
the
the
to
find
the
space
for
the
cnc,
a
es
master.
A
A
A
C
C
A
B
A
A
Yeah,
it's
kind
of
because
I'm
I'm
still
a
bit
a
I'm
trying
to
really
sort
of
chatter
a
way
that
I'll
know.
So
I
it's
it's
a
it's
a
little
bit
of
a.
A
I
guess
work
at
the
moment.
I
don't
really
know
where,
where
where
our
so,
what
I'm
doing
was
to
try
and
do
that
step
by
step
to
just
get
off
the
ground
with
the
3d
printing,
yeah
and
then
yeah,
obviously,
yeah.
C
Let's
focus
on
it
now
with
the
3d
printing,
I
mean:
are
you
interested
in
so
when
you
get
up
and
going
do
you?
Do
you
want
to
be
more
of
a
user
or
also
user
and
developer?
So,
for
example,
if
we
have
the
challenge
to
develop
the
either
like
the
high
temperature
printer
or
the
large.
A
A
C
A
With
a
3d
printer:
yes,
yes,
so
what
I've
identified?
To
be
honest,
is
the
big
gap,
a
I
think,
the
educational
front,
this
side
in
terms
of
3d
printing?
It's
it's.
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
massive
opportunity,
so
obviously
I
want
to
be
involved
in
the
developmental
side
and
then
like
if
you're
developing,
you
know
things
for
a
course
of
a
purpose,
then
I
can
be
involved
there.
So
obviously,
at
a
certain
point
I
need
to
also
sort
of
start
openly
with
you
and
say.
A
A
Then
we
can
also
open
that
market
because
it's
quite
a
a
sort
of
unkept
it's
an
untapped
market,
particularly
in
schools,
because
I
think
that's
where
the
opportunity
is
so
the
similarities
happening
a
lot
now
with
coding
where
people
are
doing
a
lot
of
coding
and
on
the
I.t
side
or
the
software
side,
so
they,
I
think,
there's
an
equal
opportunity
for
the
for
the
32
3d
printing
within
that
sphere.
A
A
So
I'm
still
hanging
on
to
that
sort
of
idea
and
then
I've
I've
really
been
sort
of
trying
to
find
out
how
many
people
are
really
doing
it,
there's
not
much,
and
then
there
is
really
a
requirement
I
mean
so
obviously
that's
that's
the
biggest
one
that
I
wanted
to
sort
of
as
to
because
it's
low
hanging
and
it's
something
that
we
could
really
be
sort
of
establishing
a
big
footprint
if
we
move
quicker.
A
So
that's
why
my
idea
was
to
set
off
if
there's
a
product
already
that's
ready
of
the
ground,
I
can
start
producing
making
being
able
to
sort
of
do
the
the
seminars
whereby
I'll
invite
the
students
from
the
various
schools,
maybe
at
the
maybe
just
a
secondary,
a
school
level
and
then
sort
of
introduce
them
to
the,
because
it's
a
big
opportunity
and
then
obviously
trying
to
sort
of
introduce
this
more
as
a
as
a
subject
or
some,
because
it's
really
it's
really
a
critical
skill.
A
The
way
I
see
it
in
five
years
or
ten
years
time
to
be
an
engineer,
you
need
to
have
some
skills,
like
obviously
3d,
printing
coding
and
all
those
types
because
they
become
in
reality
on
a
daily
basis.
So
my
idea
was
around
that
in
terms
of
the
enterprise
insight,
initially
to
start
to
say:
okay,
maybe
we
can
do
the
3d
printing
together,
obviously
with
your
support,
because
I'll,
if
it's
just
myself,
I
don't
really
have
much
experience.
A
I
can
obviously
try
and
rush
and
get
everything
up,
but
I
still
need
somebody
like
you
to
be
there
and
then
as
an
enterprise
and
obviously,
on
the
other
front,
like
I
said,
I'm
trying
to
free
a
bit
of
my
time
so
that
when
I've
got
my
sort
of
my
time
I
own
my
time
basically,
then
I
can
do
a
bit
of
development
and
sort
of
challenges
that
comes
up
on
the
desired
side.
So
I'm
trying
to
be
a
bit
of
both.
I
don't
know
if
I'm
I'm
clear
on
that
one
question:
yes,.
C
Yeah,
how
do
you
see
the
the
education
side
compatible
with
industrial
side?
Like
then,
you've
got
the
metal
work
and
stuff
like
that.
What
do
you
see
as
the
connection,
so
would
you
see
that
the
the
education
enterprise
would
be
a
thing
that
will
then
lead
into
other
things,
or
would
you
want
to
do
like
both
in
parallel
or
how
do
you
see
it.
A
I
think,
obviously
it's
much
easier
for
for
introduction.
Like
I'm
saying
I
don't
know
why
I've
seen
a
a
lot
in
the
states.
What
would
it
be
happening?
Is
this?
This
thing
is
already
like
a
big
thing
that
side.
So
almost
every
kid
knows
about
this
thing,
so
this
side
you're
dealing
with
even
pupils
or
learners
that
are
not
even
exposed
to
their
to
the
3d
printing.
A
At
all,
so
I
mean
and
you're
talking
people
that
are
almost
on
the
verge
of
going
to
some
of
the
technical
colleges
varsities
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I
think
introducing
it
right
there.
Then
it
becomes
easier
to
talk
the
language
industrially,
because
you're
already
talking
with
a
group
of
people
that
have
already
been
exposed
to
the
kind
of
technology
and
all
that
thing.
A
So
what
I've
seen
is
it's
very
difficult
to
sort
of
grab
the
audience
if
they
are
not
really
sort
of
exposed
to
this
kind
of
thing
so
because
so
yeah.
So
that's
why
I
thought
education
is
much
easier
in
terms
of
obviously
marketing
the
technology
and
rapidly
implementing
it.
It's
much
easier
to
capture
large
audience
through
education
through
sort
of
programs
like
that
which
you
can
set
with
technical
colleges
and
even
some
universities,
whereby
then
it's
easier
to
also
roll
it
out
industrially,
because
an
industry
will
give
you
like,
for
example,
in
mining.
A
What
these
big
companies
will
do,
they'll
obviously
already
employ
people
which
are
supposed
to
be
competent
in
certain
things.
So
I
I
think
upskilling
them
anyway,
before
they
even
get
into
the
sort
of
that
sector,
that
working
off
years.
C
A
Oh
okay,
particularly
around
3d
printing.
So
what
yes.
C
A
C
Gonna
get
a
bunch
of
people
that
are
kind
of
like
playing
with
cute
things,
as
opposed
to
now
thinking
about
okay.
How
did
I
make
a
living
with
this?
How
do
I
change
the
economy
so
basically
transitioning
that
from
this
hobby
kind
of
an
effect
to
this
is
how
we
change
the
world
with
it.
This
is
livelihoods.
It's
ultimately.
C
A
A
Yes,
I
think
so
I
I
always
compare
3d
printing
sort
of
to
like
coding,
so
the
guys
in
software
I
mean
they
they
moving
because
what
they
they
are
doing
at
the
moment
with
schools
and
various
institutions,
they
they're
doing
what
they
call
hubs,
for
example,
whereby
it's
a
central
location
and
then
they
call
them
yes
like
stem.
A
It
will
be
like
a
science
technology
and
mathematics
and
engineering
sort
of
hub
whereby
learners
as
an
extra
mural
they
come,
but
obviously
they
pay
on
a
monthly
basis
for
you
to
sort
of
teach
them
coaching
and
which
is
coding
basically
around
programming
of
stuff.
Your
your
your
your
sort
of
ease,
programming,
related
stuff,
so
it's
I
I
I
didn't.
A
Then
this
is
3d
printing
far
from
that,
because
obviously
you
sort
of
want
to
introduce
it,
but
obviously
as
an
extra
mural,
whereby
they
sort
of
pay
for
the
lessons
that
they
come
and
attend,
and
I
think
that
model
is
really
working
pretty
well
with
various
institutions
locally
here,
because
a
lot
of
guys
are
doing
it
and
then
so.
My
biggest
challenge
was
obviously
it's
easier
to
implement
something
like
that
locally.
A
But
then
obviously,
you'd
want
to
sort
of
grow
it
at
the
national
level,
and
then
I
thought
the
best
way
is
maybe
to
produce
a
once.
You've
introduced
kids
into
this
thing,
and
then
it
becomes
like
a
a
part
of
the
sort
of
their
syllabus.
So
after
their
school
they
go
and
do
the
lessons
with
me.
So
it
becomes
much
more
easier.
But
then
the
internet
is
the
easiest
way
of
running
things.
A
Obviously,
if
you
want
to
reach
a
larger
crowd,
so
my
scalar
plan
was
to
obviously
introduce
the
subject,
maybe
through
an
internet
platform
whereby
you
can
give
lessons
either
in
the
form
of
a
an
internet
way
a
kid
can
log
in
for
their
lessons
and
all
those
kind
of
things
just
really
to
work
out
the
program
that
will
really
suit
the
larger
masses,
because,
honestly
speaking,
the
reality
of
introducing
this
at
an
industrial
level.
A
But
there
isn't
people
who
are
really
sort
of
technocrat
or
who
know
how
to
operate
the
stuff
again.
It
becomes
a
bit
of
a
challenge
also
to
sort
of
scale
it
in.
So
I
thought,
if
you
could
have
this,
whether
they
are
ready
to
sort
of
just
that
secondary
people
who
are
almost
or
a
technical
college,
for
example,
to
offer
this
at
ffe,
and
it
becomes
much
more,
I
think,
feasible.
A
But
obviously
it
will
be
something
that
would
have
to
sort
of
justify
on
a
real
feasibility
and
know
what
are
the
numbers
and
what
sort
of
crowds
will
need
and
something
like
that.
But
at
the
rough
sort
of
level
that
that
was
the
idea.
I
don't
know
if
I'm.
C
A
Or
something
because
just
one
day,
yeah
sure
just
took
to
cartesian
the
the
the
they
are
technical
schools
which
are
secondary
schools.
In
fact,
I
almost
thought
about
something
like
that
like
if
you
give
them
a
you
work
with
them,
you
make
them
pay
for
teaching
them
the
stuff,
but
then
they're,
actually
developing
a
real
enterprise
product.
A
That's
that's
tangible,
that's
that's!
Even
commercial
commercially
viable
you
can
sell
it.
That
was
the
whole
idea.
So
particularly
there
are
schools
like
that.
You
get
technical
colleges
whereby
they
teach
all
sorts
of
technical
skills
like
building
a
planning,
but
then
they
just
don't
have
this
particular
skill.
So
I
thought
3d
printing
is
even
much
more
powerful
because
you
can
actually
produce
products
that
they
are
using,
particularly
even
in
arafat,
so
that
they
can
see
the
real
potential,
because
the
idea
is
to
really
sell
a
technology
that
works.
A
That
can
a
person
is
well
aware
that
even
if
he
buys
a
desktop
3d
printer,
he
can
put
it
on
a
sitting
room
and
he
can
print
overnight
and
whatever
he
is
printing
can
be,
can
be,
can
be
done
when
over
overnight.
So
it's
really
it's
really
that.
But
that's
what
I'm
saying
the
and
for
me
it
seems
much
more
easier
to
push
that
into
the
market
and
because
people
are
not
it's
really
a
green
field,
so
nobody
has
really
tapped
into
that.
Yes,.
A
No,
it's
not,
it
can
be,
it
will
remain
open,
so
the
reason
being
because
I'm
sure
you'll
also
be
involved
at
some
of
the
stuff.
Obviously
I
won't
hire
you
with
all
the
stuff
and
all
that,
but
I
mean
your
involvement
automatically.
If
I
mean,
if
you
give
me
that
honor
will
obviously
also
mean
that
you
are
also
well
aware,
it's
easier
for
you
to
track.
I
mean
at
that
the
at
the
head
office
level
to
know
okay
what's
happening.
A
A
B
C
C
A
Guys
have
yeah,
maybe.
C
C
Into
the
the
public
sphere,
economic
creation.
A
You
know
no
correct,
yes,
my
son,
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
even
also
to
what
also
humbles
this
big
corporate
is
that
they,
if,
as
soon
as
something
is
done
at
a
community
level,
they
don't
necessarily
have
a
big
of
a
choice
in
terms
of
also
recognizing
it.
In
fact,
on
an
enterprise
level
for
you
for
myself
as
an
individual
to
try
and
push
3d
printing
alone
and
say
I
can
go
into
the
market
and
convince
the
this
giants
it
it's
also.
A
It
becomes
a
futile
exercise,
but
where,
if
you
can
involve
communities
back
the
internet,
they
understand
what
you're
trying
to
do.
You
give
them
a
task
like
they
produce
a
real
product,
and
then
they
can
even
the
guys
will
even
give
you
the
buy-in,
the
industrial
guys
to
say.
Okay,
this
stuff
works.
We
can
actually
now
purchase
this
stuff
from
you.
We
can
support
you.
We
can
sort
of
whatever
with
you.
Then
it
becomes
even
bigger
because
yeah
it
it
it's
sort
of
yeah.
A
So
so
really
it
really
supports
what
you
were
saying
about
the
ubuntu,
because
obviously
it's
it's
just
a
cultural
aspect.
It's
easier
to
sort
of
instill
in
people
initially
when
you're,
starting
with
a
program
to
say
this
is
how
we
work
and
then
it's
open,
and
then
we
need
to
sort
of
do
things
collaboratively
in
order
for
everybody
to
sort
of
benefit
equally,
all
over
the
world.
A
So
if
we
see
success
in
south
africa,
it
must
be
able
to
translate
success
into
a
european
country
or
somewhere
else
in
the
in
the
world.
A
C
So
maybe
let's
go
right
into
the.
C
Let's
start
talking
about
the
technicalities
of
collaboration,
because
I
think
if
you
can
be
the
like,
if
I
can
transfer
the
knowledge
that
we
have
in
terms
of
here's,
the
large
collaborative
development
process
and
it's
seamless
and
it's
easy
and
people
adopt
it
as
a
culture.
That
would
be
a
great
thing
like
because.
A
C
In
general,
like
collaboration
is
hard
because
people
are
just
not
used
to
it's
a
new
cultural
thing
like,
even
though
the
tools
exist
out
there.
You
know,
like
some
people
use
the
you
know,
wikis
collaborative
editing
and
stuff
like
that,
but
to
focus
it
to
to
large-scale
collaborative
product
development
nobody's
doing
it.
A
Nobody's
doing
it,
but
that's
what
I'm
saying
this
side.
I
think
it's.
It's
really
somebody
like
myself
pushing
it
yeah
really
into
the
market,
because
that's
where
the
whole
thing
is
it's
untapped.
I
don't
think
in
south
africa
it's
maybe
like
in
the
us
where
people
are
knowledgeable
about
certain
technologies
and
all
this,
and
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
there's.
Nobody
really
pushing
the
the
sort
of
the
the
culture.
A
I
think
the
culture
is
already
there
rather,
but
the
sort
of
the
making
people
aware
that
they
can
in
fact
do
better
than
cooperate
themselves
by
just
simply
coming
together
for
the
task
collaboratively
working
openly
and
sharing
everything
with
everybody
and
obviously
seeing
benefits
from
that
as
well.
Because,
like
you
say
it's,
the
culture
is
obviously
that
of
corporates
where
it's
either
you.
You
know
something,
and
you
know
you're
not
you're,
not
willing
to
share
it
with
everybody
or
you're
just
trying
to
work
as
a
silo
and
it
just
doesn't.
C
C
Okay,
so
take
a
look
let's
so,
let's
start
getting
into
this
collaborative
development
process,
so
take
a
look
at
this
link
over.
A
C
And
let's
get
into
the
process,
so
let's
see
I
want
to
see
you
in
there
just
so
go
in
there
and
edit
it
and
go
into
edit.
If
you
just
click
on
it,.
A
A
A
I
think
yeah
I'm
trying
to.
I
think
I
need
to
copy
it
yeah
I'll,
just
I'll
just
copy
and
paste
it
right.
A
C
Yeah,
so
the
idea
behind
the
design
guide
is
is
the
notion
that
we're
not
just
learning
how
to
build.
One
thing:
we're
gonna
learn
how
to
build
a
universe
of.
C
A
C
And
let
me
let
me
share
my
screen
actually
so
so
you
can
see
my
screen
on
the
wiki
there's
a
page
called
freecad,
of
course,
free
card,
just
free
cash.
C
Okay,
did
you
download
it
from
so?
Let
me
ask
you
this
question:
did
you
download
the
what's
it
called
the
app
the.
C
Okay,
let's
try
another
exercise
because
in
order.
C
C
Okay,
okay,.
C
This
can
be
used
to
run
app
images
on
windows,
okay,
yeah,
yeah,
okay.
So
let's
try.
This
looks
like
you
can
so
go
into
this
link
here
so
go
to
the
freecad
page.
C
A
C
A
C
C
A
C
A
A
C
A
C
A
C
C
Okay,
so
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
that
you've
got
a
different
operating
system
than
I
do,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
whenever
we
talk
to
somebody,
we
know
how
to
get
them
on
the
same
system.
So
the
easy
way
is
use
osc,
linux,
which
we
might
have
to
next
time.
But
let's
see
if
this
works
for
now,
okay,
because
we're
getting
right
into
like
okay.
The
first
thing
about
mass
collaboration
is
everyone's
got
to
have
the
same
tools,
otherwise
you're
going
to
spend.
A
A
No,
I
follow
yes,
yes,
I
don't
know
what
should
I
should
I
try
and
because
I
think
I've
got
the
other
version
I
might
have
to
delete
the
18.
I've
got
zero
one
eight,
so
I
might
maybe
have
to
delete
one
and
then,
but
I'm
sure
I
can
download
it.
I
don't
think
it's
a
difficult
task.
Okay,.
B
A
B
C
C
A
B
B
C
Let's
see
so
what's
the
status
on
your
side
there
so
do
you
have
you,
don't
have
a
16
right.
C
C
Since
but
let
so
let
me
if
you
look
at
my
screen,
I'm
gonna.
C
A
C
C
But
let's
call
it
a
collaborative
design
manual,
because
this
is
not
just
you
learn
how
to
design,
but
you
learn
how
to
design
it
collaboratively
with
others.
So
it's
a
development
process,
it's
more
than
one
person,
and
that
means
you're
doing
some
things
in
a
different
way.
So
first
get
on
the
same
page.
C
So,
first
of
all
we
have.
We
should
start
with
by
saying
that
osc
has
a.
C
Aussie
linux,
so
here
you
can
so
ose
linux.
What.
B
I
would
suggest,
is
so,
have
you
ever.
A
C
Okay,
so
that's
that's
the
next
lesson,
because
you're
gonna
have
to
teach
people
how
to
do
all
this
stuff,
so
so
so
to
do
that,
you
download.
A
C
B
B
Actually,
somewhere
here
live
usb.
C
C
C
A
B
C
So
you
can
do
that
right
there
so
using.
B
C
C
C
C
C
C
B
C
Work
in
in.
B
B
C
Everything
so.
C
Let's
see
copy
link
address
so
right
here.
A
C
And
then
the
critical
tools
so
critical,
workflow
and.
C
B
C
C
C
C
C
A
C
A
A
C
B
B
B
C
C
C
B
C
So
so
the.
C
To
info
at
open
source,
ecology.org
awesome,
and
then
we
obviously
send
you
you
a
badge.
B
B
C
B
B
C
A
B
C
C
C
C
C
C
A
C
C
C
Is
let.
C
C
Well,
here's
an
example
of
so
some
of
the
most
critical
elements
are
set.
C
Which
is
three
cad,
like
you
start
with,
like
you
know,
start
with
a
concept.
You
know
we
thought
about
like
okay.
How
do
you
do
this?
Well,
that's.
C
I
would
say
that
the
three
cat
is
the
most
important
single
most
important
thing
followed
by
build
materials.
Dlqs.
That's
really
important,
because
if
you,
if
you
show
the
design-
but
you
don't
show
like
where
you
get
any
of
the
parts
or
the
parts.
B
Here's
some
use
use
case
use
case.
Oh
look.
C
That's
me,
but
that's.
C
C
So
and
the
way
you
access
the
template
is,
this
is
actually
called
def
plus
so.
C
C
C
B
B
C
B
Then
the
github
people
will
say
well.
Why
don't
you
just.
B
B
B
C
A
C
C
C
On
the
wiki
sandbox,
basically
edited.
C
C
C
B
C
B
C
C
B
C
But
here
your
content
link
to
the
work
products
is
what
you
care
about.
So
now
you
can
start
filling
this
in
here.
C
C
C
Yeah
on
your
log,
but
then
what
would
you
call
that
page,
I
would
say
e3
pro
south
africa.
I.
B
B
C
Learn
how
to
create
a
product
development
template?
Okay,
so.
C
B
C
C
A
C
C
C
A
C
C
A
C
C
B
C
B
C
C
The
way
they
work,
they,
they
typically
lock
files
down
so
that
one-on-one
workflows
where
people
lock
files
down.
A
A
B
A
Yes,
but
then
a
friend
of
mine
was
analyzing
it
differently.
What
he
says
is
that
you
know
it's
always
not
that
education
is
a
bad
thing.
I
mean,
I
think.
The
idea
that
must
also
be
taught
is
that
outside
an
institution,
one
can
always
be
take
other
skills,
because
you
know
it's,
it's
not
really
wasteful
as
such
to
sort
of
go
through
that
a
school,
but.
C
Yeah,
of
course,
so
I
think
that
what
you're
referring
to
is
what
I
wrote
was
about
you're,
never,
never
learning
like
the
best
practice
right.
So
there's
because.
C
C
B
A
Well,
with
regards
to
the
phd,
because
I
know
you
sometimes.