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Discuss
that
to
see
cuz,
what
we
need
to
do
is
get
all
of
us
to
guess,
I'm,
expecting
that
we
get
to
get
about
12
people
and
we
bring
it
together.
I
mean,
obviously,
we've
done
a
lot
of
it
like
the
universal
axes.
The
controllers,
like
the
3d
printer
parts
and
all
that,
but
a
lot
of
it
is
detail
like,
for
example,
to
add
the
plotter
pen
to
make
circuits.
You
know
we
haven't
done
that
we
haven't
built
an
electric
motor,
we
haven't
done
battery
packs.
A
A
Yeah
so
Steenkamp
true!
So
let's
go
to
the
if
you
go
to
block
sham
and
let
me
just
share
my
screen
on
my
meeting
just
easy
for
you
to
look
at
what
I'm
looking
at
here.
So
okay.
So
that's
the
essentially
Universal
axis
Universal
controller,
a
3d
printer
circuit,
plotter,
CNC
mill,
where
it's
it's
kind
of
crazy,
because
we're
going
to
build
our
own
electric
motor
that
we
then
put
on
the
CNC
mill.
So
that's
some
refinement
right
there
by
all
means.
So.
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A
B
A
A
So
that's
the
close.
This
is
actually
a
form
factor
of
a
NEMA
17
with
these
magnets,
but
you
know
it
needs.
Refinement.
I
mean
this
thing
here
overheats,
but
it's
amazing.
It's
got
a
built-in
planetary
gear
down,
so
it's
like
wow.
This
is
cool.
I'm,
actually
get
trying
to
get
this
guy.
He
hasn't
responded
to
me
regarding
participate,
but
for
the
steam
camp
curriculum
here
with
this
3d
printed
motor.
A
No,
that
would
be
just
the
axial
flux,
a
very
simple
3d
printable
thing:
I
talked
to
some
experts
and
they
say
that
we
can
get
probably
95%
efficiency
with
a
brushless
design.
It
won't
be
energy
up
the
intensity
like
energy
density
optimized,
but
it
will
be
efficiency
optimized.
So
because
you
need
some
heat
dissipation
there
and
with
plastic,
you
have
some
limits,
but
that's
one
of
the
things.
A
So,
with
a
circuit
plotter,
we
could
do
an
Arduino
Uno
with
the
universal
controller
and
some
power
elements,
we
can
do
a
DC
power
source
to
power,
the
3d
printed
motor.
We
can
do
a
battery
charger
with
a
circuit,
plotter
scalable
battery
pack
out
of
18
650
cells.
You
put
a
whole
bunch
of
these
battery
packs
together
if
we
have
12
people
showing
up
to
an
event
and
we
build
12
of
them
and
we
can
do
a
welder
by
simply
connecting
them
together,
like
as
a
scalable
battery
pack
and
then
with
the
universal
controller.
A
B
A
Here,
like
okay,
here's
the
here's,
the
deal
like
I
broke
this
down
completely,
so
in
that
same
dock
by
going
to
edit
mode,
the
third
page
shows
the
breakdown.
Okay.
If
we're
gonna
deliver
this,
we
need
modules
of
curriculum
that
look
like
this
page
three.
So
for
the
3d
printer,
you
know
build
instructions,
the
3d,
simple,
universal
access,
Universal
controller,
simple
extruder.
We
don't,
for
example,
have
a
simple
extruder
I
mean
that's
easy,
relatively
easy
to
do,
but
someone
will
have
to
take
the
time
to
actually
shake
that
down.
A
We
use
that
extruder,
quick,
plug
Wireless
wire
wire,
wiring
harness,
and
then
we
do
it
like
a
little
3d
printed,
hacksaw
blade
holder
as
a
first
example
of
a
functional
cool
print
circuit.
Plotter,
you
build
instructions,
we
what
we
need!
A
quick
attach
head,
Marlin,
plotter
software.
That's
people
have
done
that
with
Marlin.
You
know,
Marlin.
A
Yeah
so
Marlin
circuit,
plotter
pen
tool,
like
that's
people,
have
done
that
matching
system.
People
have
done
that
flat.
Cam
file
generation,
STL
cam
files
are
do.
We
know
who
know
edged
board
like
we
end
up
with
an
Arduino
Uno
each
the
board
as
a
practical
project,
that's
well
doable
using
simple
circuit
plotting.
Have
you
seen
that
by
any
chance?
There's?
Yes,.
A
Okay
and
then
drilling
in
and
building
that
yeah
for
the
drone.
Yes,
drone
body
drum
firmware
a
drum
hardware,
there's
a
lot
of
different
drones.
We
can
pick
from
I,
haven't
found
a
person
yet
to
do
that.
Thinking
about
drawing
droid
drone
Android
app
using
a
cell
phone
for
camera,
there's
one
out
of
Spain
that
it's
called
flown.
They
use.
They
use
a
cell
phone
app
to
control
it.
A
That's
one
possibility
having
contact
with
the
people
more
in
the
yeah,
with
a
circuit
plotter,
there's
more
like
learning
about
the
smart
controller
like
it
has
a
display
screen,
so
you
can
learn
to
program
it
there's
details
like
we
use
OSE
Linux.
So
all
the
software
that
we
use
is
on
it
with
all
libraries
like
for
free
cat
and
kicad
and
so
forth.
A
So
there's
ramps
plus
LCD
temperature
logger,
that's
a
simple
application.
We
could
do
as
a
simple
circuit.
Just
installing
a
circuit
and
some
code
install
installing
and
temperature
loggers
circuit.
I
was
gonna
do
this,
so
this
is
kind
of
like
the
modules
that
that
I
think
show
like
absolute
max
power
out
of
a
small
package.
So,
for
example,
just
using
some
MOSFETs
or
IGBTs
do
a
do
a
AC
light
dimmer
with
the
universal
controller
that
we
already
have
on
a
3d
printer.
So
let
me
actually
go
to
some
of
the
links.
C
B
A
I'll
show
you
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
things
like,
for
example,
when
we
talk
about
the
controller,
so
things
like
universal
axis:
that's
that's
our
cnc
axis
that
we've
done
actually,
and
this
is
the
small
version,
but
we've
done
up
to
two
inches
of
that
we
made
bigger
printers
with
it.
We
made
a
cnc
torch
table
using
that
using
what
like
one-inch
axes.
So
if
you
do
the
same
kind
of
a
design
of
an
axis
using
one
inch
you
get
to
a
torch
table
like
that
looks
like
this.
A
Oh
five,
by
ten
feet,
you
can
go
2
inches
2
inch
universal
axes.
We
just
built
these
carriages.
These
are
2
inch
bushings.
So
this
is
for
heavy-duty
shafts
for
a
heavy-duty
CNC
mill
we
didn't
get
too
far
in
and
we
built
up
to
the
frame
like
here's,
here's
kind
of
like
how
the
carriage
looks.
This
is
like
the
equivalent
of
the
like
this
thing,
equivalent
of
the
idler
catcher.
But
these
things
are
getting
big
like
this
is
a
full
metal
frame
for
the
larger
CNC
machine
here
that
we're
building
and
welding
up.
Okay.
A
Should
do
a
video
walkthrough
like
a
title,
video
walk
through
this,
but
so
I
could
communicate
this
more
effectively
but
be
3d.
Simple
is
the
most
simple
version
of
the
3d
printer
that
we've
been,
which
done,
which
is
the
three
axis
system
and
we've
built
that
we
did
actually
in
Spain
in
a
little
workshop.
It's
really
easy
and
people
basically
designed
it
themselves
like
really
quickly
in
a
free
CAD.
We
were
able
to
go
through
that
in
a
day
workshop.
A
A
B
A
It's
embeddable
HTML
within
the
browser,
is
just
embedded
HTML
right
here.
You
could
do
this
kind
of
stuff
using
javascript,
but
we
did
this
circuit
mill
that
pretty
much
yeah.
It
looks
like
this.
It's
once
again
the
same
universal
access,
but
in
different
geometries,
so
four
million
circuits.
So
we
know
how
to
do
this,
but
I
wanted
to
just
simply
using
atching
the
OSI
3d
printer
right
now.
A
That's
what
it
looks
like
for
a
full
version
here,
just
to
suck
yeah,
so
that's
kind
of
like
we've
had
this
full
frame
once
again
the
same
Universal
axis:
it's
a
we've
got.
We
we
think
we've
got
the
only
printer.
That's
got
an
insulated,
heated
bed.
We
actually
started
doing
that
right
now.
It's
not
actually
not
shown
here,
but
I'm
kind
of
developing
something.
So
we
can
do
like
high
temperature
prints
and
then
in
color.
So
that's
our
next
step.
We
don't
have
to
go
there.
Yet,
let's
see
the
universal
controller.
Where
is
that
thing?
B
B
C
A
It's
true,
that's
true,
I
hear
you
on
that.
We
can
do
it
for
yeah.
We
can
do
that
and
probably
we
can
get
away
with
that
for
PLA,
but
like
we
want
to
do
a
full
industrial
grade
printer.
So
talking
about
peak
and
ultim
for
the
high
temperature
materials
which
you
can't
get
away,
I,
don't
think
without
a
heated
bed
like
that
we
could
do
things
like
have
zones
on
the
bed
too.
You
know
is.
B
A
A
You
can
add
boards
from
the
you
know,
add
modules
where
you
say
controlling
the
welder
like
off
of
this
thing,
just
reprogram
the
Arduino.
So
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
using
this
universal
controller,
the
universal
axis
and
some
other
circuits
and
other
things
do
all
that
crazy
stuff
that
we're
proposing
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
like
what
that
all
looks
like
DIY
Arduino,
Tsar
common,
like
yeah
five
dollars
in
parts
like
in
this
guy
here.
A
Yes,
but
this
card,
like
this
here,
I,
have
like
this
guy
right
here,
like
yeah
I
mean
this
is
like
you
just
take
the
chip
and
put
a
board
around
it,
for
us
we'd
make
an
actual
a
ch2
board,
so
it
doesn't
look
like
this,
but
that's
easily
doable
I
mean
it's
essentially
this
a
breakout
for
your
microcontroller
chip.
Right,
don't
be
the
DIY
Arduino,
but
it
would
be
powerful
because
then
we
can
use
actually
that
controller
too,
for
example,
maybe
in
the
drone
or
in
a
robot
vacuum
or
whatever
so
circuit
plotter.
A
A
Pie
is
the
proprietary
version
of
BeagleBone
there's,
actually
an
open-source
version
of
microbe
truss,
a
computer
like
that
which
after
I
talked
to
the
guy.
It's
like
wow.
That
actually
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
it
turns
out
that
if
you
build
out
a
Raspberry
Pi
tablet,
we
can
design
it
such
that
it's
completely
retrofittable.
So
instead
of
the
Raspberry
Pi,
you
can
do
the
open-source
version
of
the
giggle
bone
computer.
A
B
A
A
Just
going
through
all
the
prior
art
that
there
is
there's,
robotic
vacuum,
cleaner
examples,
open-source
drones
thing
you
want
to
do
like
there's
a
cordless
welder.
Just
like
these
guys,
it's
essentially
a
bunch
of
batteries
in
the
controller.
So
we
can
do
that
simple
experiment
if
we
combine
our
battery
packs
in
the
workshop
battery
charger
for
Arduino,
simple
extruder
super
volcano
Universal
power
supply.
What's
that
that's
the
link
to
our
page
but
yeah?
That's
that's
kind
of
the
the
deal.
There's
a
bunch
of
modules
here,
like
you,
can
see
the
full
breakdown
with
idea.
A
Right
now
is
we
we
want
to
start
attaching
names
so
actually
go!
Go
into
that
dock.
If
you
wouldn't
mind-
and
we
can
actually
start
editing
that
cuz
I
would
like
to
ask
you
if
there's
any
element
of
this,
that
you'd
feel
good
about
teaching
the
rest
of
the
people.
So
so
far,
we've
got
I.
Think
we're
okay
on
the
electric
motor,
because
I
got
one
of
the
guys
who's
a
motor
designer
to
do
that.
So
I
think
we
can
do
that.
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
Yeah,
that
might
be
a
solution
around
that,
but
we
have
to
get
together
around
that
cuz
yeah.
It's
probably
much
easier
to
find
four
weekends,
four
or
five
weekends.
But
the
idea
there
is
it's
like
wow.
That's
that's
such
a
long
time
does
that
work
for
the
instructor
says
trade
offs
universal
access.
That's
me.
A
A
We
didn't
talk
about
specific
roles.
He
was
somewhat
interested
in
the
electric
motor,
but
there's
a
bunch
of
other
stuff.
We
need
to
so
there's
Michelle,
there's
Sebastian's
team
from
the
axiom
open
source
cinema
project.
Have
you
heard
of
those
guys?
No
yeah,
that's
in
a
write
up
there.
There
was
a
link
to
that.
Oh
that.
A
That
is
that
they're
open
source
cinema
they've
got
a
professional-grade
open-source
camera
there,
they're
gonna
start
taking
orders
in
about
six
months,
but
yeah.
It's
that's
a
really
good
project,
but
yeah
we
got
to
start
adding
attaching
name
so
I
just
barely
started
here.
We've
got
another
potential
candidate
named
Adam,
who
is
more
like
about
the
team
building
part
which
is
not
really
represented
anywhere
here
and
there's
another
guy.
A
A
B
C
C
B
A
Or
I
mean,
ideally,
we
would
you
know
we
collaborate
as
much
as
we
can
with
people,
I
mean
if
there's
enough
people
like
I'm
not
opposed
to
like
if
we
built
it
might
turn
out
that
we
might
get
more
than
like
initially
I
thought.
Okay,
I
need
like
six
people
to
help
out
on
this,
but
I
started
breaking
it
down.
B
I
think
that
that
CNC
mill
quick
attach
tool,
hood
yeah
I,
don't.
B
B
At
the
machines
that
I
work
with
there's,
they
have
like
rotating
inventories
of
tools
that
they
can
change
between
automatically
switching
thing.
I
wonder
if
we
could
integrate.
B
B
That,
like
with
with.
A
Yeah
yeah,
that's
that's
how
they
do
it,
but
I
mean
you
can
do
it
in
many
different
ways.
I
saw
the
guys
at
the
Midwest
RepRap
festival
that
they
have
just
a
mechanical
lock,
the
guys
from
III
D
extruder
heads
they're,
working
on
that
and
they're
gonna
release
that
open
source
that
I
should
check
in
with
them.
But
so
he's
saying
like
that's
that's
why
I
got
you
right
quickly?
Yeah.
B
A
C
B
A
Or
no,
that
is
I
mean
so
here
what
I
try
to
do
is
take
in
the
four
day
curriculum
and
try
to
break
it
down.
Well,
not
only
the
four
well,
why
it
included
the
drone
here
I
did
not
include
wait,
did
I
include
the
Raspberry
Pi
tablet.
No,
that's
not
in
here,
nor
is
the
vacuum
robot.
So
we
kind
of
thought
on
the
team
with
a
drone
vacuum
robot
and
Raspberry
Pi
tablet
or
tablet
as
three
valuable
projects.
B
C
A
Another
attraction
is
there
all
could
be
gift
gift
items
too.
So
it's
like
you
know,
talking
about
marketing
a
little
bit.
Yeah
yeah,
that's
that's
really
cool.
So
what
so?
What
questions
do
you
have
regarding?
Well,
I
can
tell
I
can
start
with
that.
The
idea
here
is
to
integrate
like
the
model
here
is
the
hardest
that
I
think
I
found
that
people
have
an
issue
with.
Is
the
idea
of
the
product
ecology
because
you're
not
just
build,
you
know,
say
a
quick
attach
to
hunt
quick,
attach
tool
head?
A
Okay,
how
does
it
fit
with
the
rest
of
the
system,
so
the
first
of
all
you'd
be
attaching
it
to
the
universal
axis
carriage
piece,
because
that's
how
we
attached
the
3d
print
head
or
the
pen
plotter
right
so
you'd
have
to
think
not
only
about
that,
but
okay
and
there's
the
universal
axis
and
if
you're
designing
this
attached
system.
How
does
that
relate
to
the
attach
system
of
the
3d
printer
and
the
pen?
Plotter,
which
is,
are
the
other
two
devices
that
go
on
to
that?
A
That's
CNC
axis
right,
so
we
kind
of
have
to
look
at
the
whole
system
and
looking
at
what
everybody
else
is
doing
in
with,
and
that's
that's
the
hard
part,
because
you
have
to
spend
the
time
to
learn
that
and
then
look
into
that
as
opposed
to
just
starting
from
scratch,
but
I'm
absolutely
open.
If
you
want
to
like
improve
the
system.
Yes
absolutely,
but
you
can't
improve
the
system
without
first
analyzing
industry
standards
ie.
What
we
have
done
before
right
so
does
that
make
sense.
Yeah.
A
So
it's
so
that's
why
we're
looking
for
co-operators
people
who
can
work
well
in
collaborate
as
a
team
and
and
then
teach
teach
each
other,
because
today,
I
actually
started
thinking
along
the
lines
of
a
mastermind.
This
is
like
you
know,
we're
actually
teaching
each
other.
All
the
stuff
I
can
teach
you
a
bunch
of
stuff.
You
can
probably
teach
me
a
bunch
of
stuff
and
that's
kind
of
how
we
want
to
go
into
this
altogether.
That
part
of
the
traction
is
the
learning
experience.
Yeah.
B
A
B
Value
in
this
ten,
but
I
also
think
that
a
lot
of
people
are
just
gonna
go
buy.
Something
or
you
know
it
kind
of
depends
how
it
fits
in
with
the
society
like,
for
example,
you're
talking
about
the
Raspberry
Pi
tablet,
I,
think
that's
really
cool
I
could
integrate
well
with
the
other
products.
I
also
think.
For
the
most
part,
people
are
just
going
to
get
a
computer
and
they're
already
gonna
have
some
type
of
a
computer
yeah.
A
B
C
A
Yeah
yeah
definitely
and
then
besides.
Okay,
so
if
you
take
a
look
at
open
source,
what
do
you
think
is
the
biggest
attraction
for
you
to
open
source
like
why?
Why
do
you
value
it?
Because
one
part
of
it
for
us
that
we
like
to
talk
about
a
lot
I?
Think
if
you
talk
about
economic
impact,
this
lifetime
design,
because
if
you
understand
it,
you
can
rebuild
it,
you
can
improve
it,
you
can
replace
parts,
and
if
it's
modular,
you
can
it's
basically
circular
economy.
B
C
A
Do
you
think
that
this
can
have
an
impact
on
the
comment
like
that?
Or
do
you
see?
Do
you
see
the
link
between
this
an
actual
impact,
because
the
way
we'd
like
to
position
this
is
every
Steenkamp
we're
improving
the
product.
So
say
we
do
our
first
raspberry
pi
tablet.
Well,
we
then
the
next
one.
We
improve
it
until
the
point
that
it
becomes
a
really
good
product,
and
it's
it's
something
actually
that
people
many
more
people
would
want
to
get.
So
that
means
adding
some
value
to
it.
A
Whether
it's
the
education
aspect,
maybe
it
turns
into
a
Raspberry
Pi
with
a
phone
or
something
or
whatever
it
makes
it
very
attractive.
But
for
us
it's
about
developing
real
products
that
people
can
get
financial
independence
from,
because
we
develop
the
products
collaboratively
to
the
point
that
they're
really
viewable
and
in
fact
we
wanted
to
have
them
day.
Number
nine
one
where
we
actually
talk
about
and
develop
the
enterprise
aspects.
So
things
like
doing
a
product
page
on
a
website
that
is
opens
its
distributive,
its
we're
saying
you
can
take
that
you
can
make
it.
A
A
B
C
A
A
Absolutely
right
and
Kardashev
scale
to
me.
That
is
like
the
fact
that
there's
ten
thousand
times
more
power
that
comes
from
the
Sun
than
we
use
today,
so
yeah,
you
better
believe
it.
We
can
make
the
world
ten
thousand
times
better
if
we
decided
to
apply
that
energy
to
two
positive
things
and
providing
for
everybody
and
educating
everybody
and
getting
rid
of
all
the
world
problems
yeah.
A
Our
idea
is
that
pay
technology
should
make
life
easy.
We
should
be
pursuing
exactly
what
our
true
interests
are,
as
opposed
to
just
making
a
living,
and
that's
that's.
The
kind
of
positioning
we're
trying
to
add
to
this
is
that
we
can
really
take
control
of
the
economy
in
a
much
more
distributed
way.
A
I'm
glad
you
see
that,
because,
unfortunately,
I
have
not
heard
I
mean
literally
I
haven't
heard.
Nobody
like
you,
know
the
biggest
news
that
you
know
like
Diamandis.
You
know
those
guys,
you
know
like
Peter
Diamandis,
founder
of
the
XPrize.
You
know
people
like
there's
people
who
talk
about
big
change,
but
none
of
them
actually
talking
that
hey,
we
should
actually
collaborate.
We
should
actually
find
mechanisms
where
society
instead
of
competing
collaborates
where
we
replace
proprietary
development
with
collaborative
development
gee.
A
B
A
A
Know,
for
example,
Mondragon
is
the
biggest
cooperative
they're,
nothing.
They
have
nothing
to
do
with
open
source.
All
their
products
are
proprietary,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
people
don't
recognize
this,
but
in
order
to
change
the
world
the
co-operative
is
about
I
call
it
literally
like
a
proprietary
consortium,
because
that's
exactly
what
what
it
is
economically,
it's
not
an
open
consortium,
but
you
have
to
have
open
and
collaborative
like
I
guess.
The
shortcoming
of
the
typically
is
that
they
I
haven't
seen
an
open-source
fee,
an
open-source
co-op
with
any
open-source
products.
A
Yet,
let's
see
open
source
code,
there
I
think
I
heard
the
term
open
source
co-op,
but
I'm
just
saying
it's
like
now.
Like
the
p2p
foundation,
people,
they
talk
about
open
cooperatives,
but
their
license
is
proprietary.
So
you
know
what
know
what's
going
on
anyway,
so
in
other
words,
the
world
has
a
lot
to
go
in
terms
of
making
it
truly
a
collaborative
site,
cuz.
Even
a
people.
The
socialist
guys
is
not
a
lot
of
open-source
to
do
lists
there.
They
don't
talk
about
open-source,
oh
so
I.
A
A
Yeah
no,
but
I'm
glad
you
say
that
yeah
we
can
do
so
much
more
with
a
we
simply
go
out
and
collaborate
and
I'm
glad
you're
pointing
that,
because
that
I
think
that's
points
to
that,
should
have
thought
about
it
enough
that
you
can
appreciate
it,
but
most
people
unfortunately,
don't
really
even
think
about.
Is
they
don't
think
it's
possible
so
yeah,
that's,
but.
C
B
A
Yeah
that'd
be
great
and
but
other
than
that
I
mean
you'd
you'd
like
to
put
you
definitely
like
to
do
this?
Would
you
ever
so
so,
for
example,
you
have
you
know
you
have
a
job
right.
Would
you
would
busy.
B
A
Might
I
think
the
way
I
see
it
as
maybe
quarterly
quarterly
cycles,
but
then
there's
gonna
be
derivatives
of
what
happens
from
this
will
probably
end
up.
Doing
like
different
versions
of
events
will
probably
end
up
making
kits
and
other
things
such
that
I
mean
we'd
like
to
have
the
people
who
are
instructors
and
it's
like
depends
who
it
is,
but
some
people
might
do
it
once
and
then
we
never
see
them
again.
A
A
That's
our
long-term
vision,
so
the
definite
growth
trajectory
for
us,
we'd
like
to
make
Hall
campuses
education
campuses
that
are
like
a
university,
but
you
can
also
live
there.
So,
like
you
know,
I
live
on
this
thirty
acres
I'd
like
to
make
what
would
be
like
we
call
it
OC
campus,
but
would
have
education
and
real
life
in
it.
A
So
it's
like
an
intentional
community,
but
it's
more
structured
like
a
university
like
a
university
campus
or
like
a
Google
campus,
you
know,
but
it
it
does
more
than
just
like
the
education
also
is
land
based,
so
it
has
participation
with
nature
and
agriculture.
So
it's
basically
like
a
village.
It's
like
a
global
village
of
tomorrow.
It's
a
it's
a
point
of
light,
so
I'd
like
to
build
a
bunch
of
these
with
well
I
can't
do
it
myself,
I'll
build
one
or
two
I'd
like
to
build
at
least
here,
but
I'd
like
to
spread
that.
A
So
basically
we
can
educate
everybody.
It
would
be
a
definitely
focused
around
education.
That's
that's
our
main
line
of
business,
but
we
also
do
production.
You
know
we,
the
stuff
we
do
is
very
productive,
like
starting
up
enterprises
that
produce
things
from
three
printers
two
tractors,
two
cars,
two
houses
I
know
have
you
seen
any
of
our
work
like
we
can
build
our
tractors
in
the
day
and
the
houses
that
we
build
in
like
five
days.
A
So
with
group
large
groups
of
people
like
50
people
in
five
days,
we
can
build
a
house
get
a
group
of
twelve
people
together,
we
can
build
a
tractor
in
a
day
and
things
like
that,
so
we're
trying
to
innovate
on
the
way
that
economic
production
happens
not
only
in
just
factories
but
social
production
events.
So
that's
that's
our
model.
B
Very
cool,
so
yeah
I
guess
I
would
like
to
start
by
just
seeing
what
I'm
able
to
contribute
if
I'm
able
to
actually
be
of
any
value
to
you
or
not,
and
if
I
am
that
I
would
be
willing
to.
You
know,
get
more
involved
and
work
more
from
there
or,
if
not,
then
I'll
just
contribute
what
I
can
and
somebody
else
can
take
over
yeah.
A
Okay,
well,
if
you
do
that,
can
you
just
get
an
account
on
the
wiki
so
that
you
can
and
set
up
and
I,
can
send
you
more
info
on
that,
but
basically
go
to?
Like
start
a
page
called
Jacob
blog.
So,
for
example
like
if
you
go
to
the
wiki,
we
all
keep
logs
and
we
put
a
time
graph
in
there.
So
let
me
show
you
there's
that
this
is
my
log
and
I
actually
keep
up.
That's
my
log,
but
I
just
put
links
like
they
day
by
day.
A
A
So
you
can
just
keep
track
of
time
as
we're
trying
to
keep
track
of
overall
development
time
for
for
the
records
of
the
project
as
we're
trying
to
save
the
world
and
the
Shoah
show
a
case
where
we
can
actually
make
open-source
Hardware
work
as
an
economic
paradigm.
So
we're
trying
to
keep
records
like
that,
but
I'd
like
to
ask
you
if
you
can
just
start
your
log
and
start
also
logging
your
hours,
and
that
would
help.
Oh,
that
makes
the
process
transparent.
A
It's
really
8
players
and
all
that,
but
take
a
look
at
Michel
Locke,
for
example.
That's
another
log
he's
got
his
hours
that
he
hasn't
been
keeping
track
of,
but
he's
been
doing,
for
example,
the
WebGL,
and
that's
there
like
you,
can
see
on
his
on
his
log
but
yeah.
If
you
could
do
that,
they'll
be
awesome
and
then,
when
we
have
this
diagram,
like
you
saw
with
all
the
breakdown,
we
would
actually
just
put
a
link
back
to
your
name.
It
would
go
to
your
log
and
then
everybody
can
get
oriented.
C
A
Last
thing
I
want
to
tell
you
about:
is
next
year
we're
actually
planning
a
big
incentive
challenge
where
we
put
up
a
contest
to
build
the
world's
first
open-source
3d
printed,
cordless
drill
from
scrap,
in
other
words,
plastic
recycling
infrastructure,
is
part
of
that
challenge,
but
we're
gonna
offer
a
big
reward
on
hero,
X,
we're
looking
at
like
250,000
and
for
the
world
to
develop
professional-grade
cordless
drill.
So
that
means
also
the
micro
factory
that
makes
it
so
that
means
the
3d
printer.
That's
used
there
like
the
coil,
winding
jig
would
be
in
there.
A
If
we
make
our
motors
I'm,
not
sure.
If
we
make
our
own
motors,
we
might
just
get
them
off.
Shelf
I'd
like
to
have
them
be
built
from
3d
printed
material,
but
we'll
have
plastic
recycling
as
part
of
infrastructure,
so
that
you're,
taking
a
literally
like
whatever
scrap
abs
or
whatever,
and
returning
that
into
ABS
filament
that
you're
printing,
your
cordless
drill
with,
but
that
challenge
is
coming
up.
We're
gonna
launch
that
September
of
2020
I,
just
wanted
to.
A
Let
you
know
like
like
the
steam
camps
are
also
intended
so
that,
if
anybody
wants
to
participate
in
that
challenge,
they
will
have
full
background
training
how
to
work
in
open
source
product
development
as
a
large
team,
because
the
incentive
challenge
will
be
people
have
to
upload
and
download
things.
Sadly,
it's
gonna
be
a
challenge
of
how
do
you
coordinate
like
a
thousand
people
to
work
on
the
same
design?
A
You
know
man,
that's
gonna,
be
crazy,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
develop
the
techniques
of
transparent
working
and
a
big
part
of
that
is
keeping
the
logs
and
uploading
designs
as
soon
as
you
have
them,
because
we're
we're
twisting
the
rules,
that's
absolutely
collaborative
you're
rewarded
for
cooperating
it's
not
a
typical
contest
where
people
compete
against
each
other.
It's
about
stacking
effort.
So
that's
the
way
we're
gonna.
Do
that
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
because
that's
part
of
the
framework
for
the
Steam
campuses
that
we're
training
people
to
participate
effectively
in
the
design
challenges.
C
A
B
A
We
found
out
was
when
we
did
the
magnetic
mount
for
the
3d
printer.
It
would
mess
up
the
cooling
fan.
So
in
the
last
version
that
we
did,
we
we
scrapped
the
magnetic
mount
on
the
3d
printer
head,
because
the
way
we
had
it,
it
was
actually
blocking
out
the
print
cooling
fan
like
no
actually,
the
extruder
fan.
We
use
the
Crusoe
extruder
and
that
that
that
just
did
work
with
a
magnetic
mount.
A
So
we
get
rid
of
the
magnetic
mount,
but
we
can
revisit
the
magnetic
mount
or
maybe
do
something
simpler,
like
a
simple
bolt,
because
probably
for
the
milling,
you
want
to
have
the
magnetic
mount,
maybe
a
part
of
it,
but
you
have
to
probably
have
some
lock
in
where
you
make
sure
you
don't
lose
the
head.
If
you
bump
something,
but.
A
Check
it
I'll
keep
checking
in
one
for
you.
What
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
send
an
email
to
all
the
people
that
are
on
board
so
far
and
kinda
introduce
everybody.
That's
why
you
have
your
log
I'll,
post,
your
video,
so
that
people
can
can
view
it
and
then
just
start
coordinating
and
see.
Who
makes
it
to
the
actually
running
the
event.
But
it
sounds
like
you
know:
you're
interested
in
learning
sounds
like
you'd,
be
a
good
fit
so
I'd
like
to
see
if
he
can
possibly
run
one.
B
Okay,
so
have
I,
provided
you,
the
information
that
you
were
watching
or
I
responded
to
you
like
is.
A
There
anything
else
that
you
need
for
me
right
now:
yeah
yeah,
I
think
so
I
think
that's
about
it.
Let's
see
anything
else
about
asked
you
about
open
source
yeah.
So
what
what's
your
take
on
the
economic
freedom
aspect
of
this?
Is
that
something
that
is
attractive
or
that's
something
you're?
Not
thinking
about
with
this?
Oh
that.
A
A
C
A
You'll
build
it
like
it's
gonna,
be
cheaper
ten
times
cheaper,
well
lifetime
ten
ten
times
cheaper,
definitely
upfront
and
won't
be
ten
times
cheaper
might
be
a
couple
of
times
cheaper,
but
over
lifetime,
yes
very
easily
ten
times,
because
it's
designed
for
lifetime,
you
can
do
anything
with
it
for
life
awesome,
but
sorry,
sorry,
I
kind
of
cut
you
off
on
that.
So
you,
your
plan,
was
you
so
you
can
live
out
there
yeah!
You
didn't
cut.
C
A
B
B
A
Yeah,
you
don't
want
to
go
to
a
turbine
on
a
small
scale.
You
do
want
to
go
on
a
modern
steam
engine
which
you
can,
if
you
do
that
properly.
It's
very
easy
to
get
ten
percent
and
higher
efficiency,
like
even
from
very
simple
system
yeah
like
I'd
like
to
do
a
basically
Arduino
controlled
solenoids
evaded
steam
engine,
which
is
super
simple,
you're,
just
letting
the
steam
in
for
a
certain
amount
of
time,
using
an
Arduino
controller,
so
an
R
on
our
plate.
Yeah,
that's
that's
attractive
to
us.
A
A
Yeah
it
is,
it
is
it's
water,
that's
about
200,
C
and
under
200
psi
and
we're
looking
at
that.
That's
called
saturated
water
and
we're
looking
at
that
as
the
storage,
medium
of
choice,
it's
I
believe
that's
more
effective
than
batteries,
because
batteries
aren't
particularly
sustainable.
So
we're
looking
at
that
as
our
main
long-term,
like
we
don't
have
that
right
now,
but
right
now
we're
just
using
batteries
like
I'm
off
great
on
this
house
here,
but
we're
just
using
lettuce
of
batteries
but
yeah
saturated
water
colonies.
A
A
Yes,
such
unsaturated,
what
they
use
saturated
water
we've
got
some
wiki
pages
on
that
here's
a
link
in
case
you
can't
find
it
I
met
the
guy
and
that's
how
I
actually
found
out
about
saturated
water,
but
nobody's
talking
about
it.
I
think
because
most
people
are
doing
groupthink
and
most
people
are
into
the
the
battery
future
I
call
it
kind
of
groupthink,
cuz
I,
don't
think
batteries
know,
but
maybe
we
come
up
with
some
better
battery
technology,
but
right
now,
I
think
saturated
water
is
easier
and
better.
B
Yeah
batteries
are
expensive,
I
think
the
main
drawback
with
them
is
that
they
don't
know.
You
know
the
life
time
you
know
within
ten
years
ago.
We
have
to
replace
them
yeah.
At
least
that's
been
my
experience
with,
though
I
have
a
small
greenhouse
solar-powered
right
now
it
seems
like
the
batteries
no
they're,
not
so
great
they're,
just
okay,
yeah.
A
A
But
those
are
the
real
numbers
there.
So
take
a
look
at
it:
yeah
and
terajoules
a
company.
That's
actually
there
they're
doing
some
of
these
systems,
but
I
talked
to
the
guy
and
he
said
nobody
wants
to
invest
in
it
because
right
now,
like
anything,
Solar
is
kind
of
like
taboo
in
the
investment
world.
No,
it's
just
groupthink
I
think
but
anyway,
I
think
that's
the
saturated
water
between
that
I
personally,
like
hydrogen.
So
anyway,
I
gotta
get
Belgian.
Okay,
yes,
pleading.
B
A
Water
because
he
can
do
oxy-hydrogen
steam,
oxy-hydrogen
torches
for
cutting,
which
are
really
clean
and
efficient,
using
once
again
your
water,
you
know
abundant
resources,
so
you
got
a
split
in
the
water,
but
oxy-hydrogen
I
believe
that
and
also
compressed
for
cars
like
you
can
burn
hydrogen
and
regular
car
engines
right
now.
So
I'd
like
to
do
that
as
well,
but
yeah
I
like
hydrogen
and
I
like
water,
those
are
quite
abundant.