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Excellent
yeah,
so
how
are
you.
A
Yeah
same
here
trying
to
corral
people
yeah
responding
to
various
interviews,
some
of
the
design
is
going
forward
like
I,
don't
know
if
you've
seen
this,
but
we've
got
a
really
cool
design
of
the
axial
flux
motor
in
the
works.
That's
being
from
towel.
Just
take
a
take
a
look
at
this.
That
kind
of
relates
to
what
you
might
like
about
information
architecture.
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Is
you
can
explode
that
with
a
slider,
that's
great.
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I'm
doing
right
now
is
so
this
breakdown
like,
if
you
look
at
page
5,
that's
like
the
tasks
but
really
for
every
task
we
have
like,
starting
with
the
purple
bubbles
like
I,
really
want
to
get
clear
about
what
each
involves
and
how
much
work
they're.
So
I
was
gonna,
break
it
down
into
a
budget
and
then
pass
it
on
to
my
collaborator
on
this
and
he
said
hey.
We
can
forgot
an
Excel
right
this.
Let's
just
get
some
money
for
it
like
pretty.
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A
Like
a
zero
interest
loan
that
would
come
out
of
proceeds
of
future
events,
so
I
was
looking
at
that
I
mean
right
now.
It
looks
like
page
two:
it's
going,
there's
names
being
added
mm-hmm,
but
you
know
the
way
we're
going
right
now.
You
know
it's
not
gonna
happen
in
three
months.
I
think
we
really
want
to
accelerate
it.
Put
some
more
effort
behind
it.
So
I
think
it's.
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C
A
Mentor
he's
offering
that
basically
getting
passing
that
to
some
of
his
friends
and
seeing
it
we
could
do
that.
That's
number
one
option
so
that
could
be
could
be
read,
ready,
funding
beyond
that,
like
in
the
next
few
months.
Next
couple
of
months,
I'm
doing
some
production
runs
at
printers,
so
we
make
printers
and
I'm
gonna
do
a
couple
of
productions
runs
and
that's
I'm,
aiming
for
like
10k
starting
at
about
10k
per
month.
Revenue
from
that
now.
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A
So
probably
the
next
step
here,
yes,
so
what
I
want
want
to
continue
on
doing
here
is
to
keep
breaking
down
this
thing
into
tasks
you
mentioned
when
you
say
break
it
into
a
standalone
project.
You
mean
like.
Are
you
also
suggesting,
like
oh
I'll,
run
one
day
camps
or
like
make
it?
In
till
one
day,
you
Walter.
B
D
Know
it
is
all
modular,
and
so
rather
than
saying
like
ok,
this
is
you
know
a
nine
day
trunk
that
has
to
kind
of
come
in
in
this
format.
We
really
have,
is
you
know
nine
one-day
chunks
that
can
be
rearranged
and
reordered
yeah
and
you
know
taught
as
a
single
week
and
of
course,
if
you
take
these
two
days
out
of
it
taught,
as
you
know,
this
will
ready
review
if
you
plot
half
a
content
from
each
page.
My
back,
like
I,
think.
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A
Is
yeah,
like
you
said
it's
like
this
is
like
a
year
or
something
of
work
stuff,
but
that's
that's
also
the
beauty.
It's
also
the
challenge,
because
yeah,
it's
so
much
bandwidth.
People
have
souls
communicating.
This
is
step
one
and
right
now,
just
just
to
the
PI
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
the
budget
here,
just
throwing
down
all
this
stuff
and
trying
to
break
it
down
like
slide.
Five
here
has
granular.
This
is
our
development
template
like
20.
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C
A
At
err
tables
I'm,
not
sure
I
can
do
it.
Cuz
we're
already
doing
like
all
this
spreadsheets
stuff,
and
we
kind
of
do
it
more
like
more,
even
more
simple
tools:
I'm
reluctant
to
actually
dive
into
another
tool
with
a
slight
learning
curve,
because
we're
trying
to
say,
but
let's
use
the
absolute
minimum
tool.
A
As
far
as
how
we
document
this,
and
you
know
if
we
can
can't
get
you
on
board
or
if
you
know,
even
in
this
initial
stage
of
funding
right
now
that
I'm
gonna
write
this
up
for
to
get
funded
and
I
should
know,
like
you
know,
like
I'll,
just
leave
myself
this
week
like.
Are
we
gonna,
get
this
money
or
not
and
then
see
what
we
need
to
take
as
the
next
step?
A
The
what
you're
doing
with
maker
net,
like
the
support
infrastructure
for
micro
factories
or
distributed
manufacturing
right-
that's
big
stuff.
That's
the
next
trillion
dollar
economy
so
but
part
of
it
is
the
the
information
architecture
behind
it.
So
platforms
behind
that
so
yeah
yeah
definitely
definitely
not
a
common
ground
there,
cuz
I,
don't
know
how
much
you've
seen
about
our
work
but
I
mean
also
back
in
2012.
We
did
this
thing
called
the
open
source
hardware
documentation
jam
in
New,
York
City,
where
we
try
to
get
around
ok.
A
Yeah
important
to
have
some
basic
understanding
and
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
as
my
mission
now
to
kind
of
collect
all
the
people
around
the
micro
factory
like
okay
people.
Let's
do
this,
I
mean
fabs
was
written
13
years
ago
by
Gershenfeld.
In
practice,
nothing
really
has
happened
in
terms
of
distributed
manufacturing
like
I
mean
it
hasn't.
You
know
that's
a
critical
view,
but
I
think
the
potential
is
like
right
now.
A
B
A
Let's
be
deliberate
about
answering
those
missing
links
and
seeing
how
we
can
improve
them,
so
yeah
I
do
want
to
like
part
of
this,
so
the
steam
camps
towards
the
incentive
challenge
towards
I
didn't
mention
too
much
about
summers
of
extreme
design-builder
like
extreme
build
events
which
we
want
to
accord
coordinate
as
well,
so
that
we
gather
the
people
that
are
participating
into
into
extreme
builds
large-scale
prototyping
events.
That's
how
we
work
on
build
outs
with
our
stuff,
like
we
build
the
house
like
in
five
days
and
stuff
like
that.
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A
Prototyping
and
I'm
thinking
like
around
the
steam
camp
too
and
I
didn't
emphasize
it.
But
it's
really
like
three
days
of
design.
Three
days
of
build
and
three
days
of
enterprise
and
I
didn't
really
talk
about
that
too
much
yet,
but
I
want
to
put
in
a
stinking
initial
like
one
day
of
enterprise
at
the
end,
but
maybe
like
even
two
or
three
like
we're.
We
saying:
okay,
we're
creating
a
business
and
all
the
business
asset
assets
for
for
an
enterprise.
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A
Site,
even
just
product,
there's
marketing,
there's
all
these
elements
that
I
think
we
can
teach
about
that.
So
so
also
position
this
as
okay,
we
can
be
developing
real
enterprises
based
around
the
small
micro
factory
concept,
where
you
can
just
start
cranking
out:
okay,
a
3d,
printed
pen,
a
cordless
drill
or
a
Raspberry
Pi
tablet
vacuum
robots.
Things
like
that
I
mean
that
that
can
be
done
like
today.
So
it's
like
crazy,
so
we're
trying
to
really
like
get
focused
around
that.
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A
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B
G
B
E
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A
A
B
D
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C
B
D
This
kind
of
fully
open
source
distributed
any
factoring
is
always
going
to
be
this
bizarre
edge
case
that
most
people
don't
know
what
to
do
with
and
that
many
people
who
do
understand
it
will
be
threatened
by
it
and
will
have
a
lot
more
money
than
us
to
act
on
that
feeling
of
being
threatened.
Yeah.
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B
D
D
You
know
open
source
farm
equipment
I'm
if
you,
if
you
have
like
demonstratable
working
models
that
you
could
actually
like
take
to
a
field
and
say
like
look
here.
This
I
built
this
tractor
from
you
know
nothing
like
you
and
it's
here's,
the
here's,
the
plans,
here's
how
you
do
it
now.
You
don't
have
to
spend
twice
as
much
on
a
you
know:
John
Deere
tractor
that
you're
not
allowed
to
repair
or
modify
go
into
the
people.
D
A
Oh
no
I
mean
it's,
it's
debatable,
which
always
gonna
happen.
Yeah
of
course,
I.
Think
you're,
saying
the
you're
basically
saying
the
violence
scenario.
I
got
a
look
at
I,
I'm,
more
inclined
to
say,
there's
entrepreneurs
and
that's
who
changes
the
world
so
just
like
you
know,
say
whatever,
like
Facebook
Amazon
I,
think
it's
gonna
be
that
way.
Man
there's
not
gonna,
be
any
I,
don't
think.
There's
gonna
be
any
bloodshed
over
this.
It's
just
business
business.
C
C
A
A
very
deliberate
thought
about
the
distributive
aspects
of
it:
yeah
it'll
be
just
business
as
usual
for
for
longer,
but
they
are
but
I
think
there
are
some
my
opinion
on.
That,
though,
is
that
there
are
some
very
unique
features
of
hardware
that
make
it
a
little
different
than
software,
because
it's
just
more
tangible.
The.
A
Actually,
the
liberator
potential
of
hardware,
like
once
that
gets
out
there.
Like
you
know
you
got
local
micro
factories,
they're
producing
engines
and
stuff
like
that,
they're
producing
grounders
in
a
few
years.
I
think
that
the
timeline
for
that
is
about
I'd,
say
about
five
years
for
that
kind
of
stuff.
Yeah
like
with
us
I
mean
with
us,
I
mean
our
tractors.
For
example,
I
mean
they're
ready
for
primetime.
It's
been
so
many
prototypes.
C
A
C
A
C
A
C
A
Get
people
to
collaborate,
I
mean
we'll
see
that
because
nobody's
done
that
social
experiment
yet
like
which
I
was
really
surprised,
nobody's
done
that
experiment.
Yet
can
you
get
people
to
elaborate
on
an
incentive?
None
of
the
other
incentive
charge
and
I.
Think
I
said
that
last
time
none
of
the
other
incentive
challenges
are
collaborative
they're
all
competitive.
So
why
is
nobody
asking
even
if
collaborative
is
feasible?
I'm,
not
I,
don't
understand
it
enough,
but
I
think
it's
just
our
wiring,
the
200
years
of
proprietary
history
for
yeah.
D
There's
a
there's,
a
really
brilliant
approach
to
some
stuff.
Like
this,
a
friend
of
mine
did
this:
while
she
was
teaching
and
it's
like
the
standard
model
in
Western
education-
is
you
know
it's
competitive?
You
assume
everyone
is
competing
to
individually
solve
a
problem
that
can
be
solved
by
any
individual.
So
the
minute
you
people
working
together,
that's
cheating
what
she
did.
What
she
said:
okay,
I'm
gonna
raise
the
difficulty
here,
so
the
the
now
the
question
is
something
that
would
be.
You
know,
theoretically,
maybe
almost
possible
for
one
person
to
do.
D
But,
ideally
you
should
all
be
working
on
this
together
or
at
least
in
large
groups,
because
there's
no
way
one
person
can
do
it
yeah.
So
nothing
is
nothing
is
cheating
and
suddenly
everyone
is
coordinating
action
and
all
working
together
and
you
get
much
better
outcomes
in
terms
of
what
people
actually
learn.
D
A
Well,
what
you
just
said
is
exactly
what
we're
doing
for
the
incentive
challenge.
The
thing
is
complicated.
It's
gonna
involve
3d
printers
I
think
as
far
as
I
know
with
heated
built
chambers
which
don't
exist
today,
and
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
open
source
that
if
you
read
in
yeah
what
I
read
in
that
thing,
there's
right
now,
3d
printing
is
limited
because
we
don't
have
enclosed
chamber
3d
printers
like
yes,
which.
C
C
A
B
D
Ya
know
what
I
was
gonna
say
is
it
might
be
worth
looking
at?
That's.
B
So
you.
D
Know
they
what
you're
talking
about
doing
in
terms
of
like
a
cooperative
design
challenge
yeah
is
not
an
exact
fit
what
they
do.
However,
it's
it's
interesting
enough
and
it's
I
think
in
any
of
you.
It
would
be
an
interesting
enough,
educate,
that'd,
be
worth
actually
just
reaching
out
to
them
directly
and
certainly
a
conversation
about
seeing
if
they're
willing
to
kind
of
change
their
the
MA.
D
You
know
their
framework
and
model
a
little
bit
to
run
this
experiment
with
you,
because
you've
got
image
everything
that
is
needed
to
start
that,
like
you,
just
need
them
to,
they
would
be
a
really
great
host
and
they
have
a
ton
of
traffic
already.
It
seems
like
it's
late
enough,
a
partnership
that
you
can
make
to
work
who's.
D
E
B
G
C
E
E
D
D
Piays
a
week,
but
when.
A
D
I'm
I'm
very
much
a
generalist
like
I
can
do
you
know
some
microcontrollers
stuff
and
some
coding
stuff
and
doing
a
lot
of
like
CAD
and
3d
printing
process
design.
There's
a
lot
of
operationalizing
something.
That's
just
been.
You
know,
kind
of
thrown
together
ad
hoc
and
me
coming
in
and
saying
like.
This
is
how
you
build
a
process,
and
this
is
how
you,
you
know,
keep
track
of
the
settings
that
you're
using
so
you
know
which
ones
work
instead
of
having
to
like
stare
at
a
blank
screen.
Every
time
are.
E
D
E
D
A
A
C
A
B
D
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
like
about
this
place
is
that
they
they
seem
to
be
pretty
good
at
having
flexible
time
like
one
of
the
friends
that
I'm
working
there
with
just
took
off.
You
know
two
weeks
to
go
climb
a
mountain
and
every
was
a
great
have
fun
with
evening
attack.
So
I
expect
that
as
long
as
there's
some
advance
notice,
I
should
be
able
to
be
flexible.
Oh
my
god
would.
A
D
Yeah
I
mean
it
sounds
like
if
I'm
gonna
come
out
and
teach
this
I'd
need
to
come
out
early
and
like
make
sure
that
I
actually
have
have
all
that
in
muscle
memory
before
I
start
trying
to
teach
it
to
anyone
else
so
being
out.
You
know
it
for
at
least
twice
the
length
of
the
workshop
seems
like
it
would
be
the
thing
that
would
need
to
happen.
D
A
C
A
B
A
D
A
A
Manageable
and
it
features
a
kid
you
know:
if
it's
well
developed
I
mean
we've
got
the
universal
access.
I
mean
that's
pretty
good.
We've
got
experience
with
all
of
this,
but
not
not.
We
haven't
developed
yet
the
interchangeable
head,
for
example.
So
that's
that's
the
design
challenge
there
to
make
it
ease
the
interchangeable,
so
you
can
practically
work
on
a
three
different
functions.
So
that's
that's
a
little.
C
A
There
but
yeah
yeah
and
like,
for
example,
the
3d
printed
electric
motor.
Like
you
know,
we
started
with
this
kid
that
was
pretty
much
wood
and
other
stuff.
Now
we're
3d
printing
and,
like
super
simple,
just
getting
it
down
to
really
refined
Production,
Engineering
ie,
fast
3d,
printed
parts
and
standard
hardware
kind.
C
A
C
D
D
So
the
my
my
main
concern
and
I
had
a
long
conversation
with
echo
about
this
I
think
so
and
like
that
goes
echos
actually
like
currently
right
now
getting
paid
to
teach
maker
skills,
so
she'll
have
a
lot
to
say
on
curriculum
design.
That's
like
one
of
it's
one
of
her
strengths,
so
yeah,
but
the
the
general
feedback
is
that
I
think
well,
it's!
It
is
totally
possible
to
get
people
through
this
much
material
in
that
timeline.
D
E
D
Know,
there's
like
when
you
do
we
need
when
you
teach
people
in
the
in
the
format.
I
was
like.
Okay
do
step
a
step,
then
step
B,
then
step
C,
I'm
gonna,
tell
you
what
step
B
and
C
are,
and
so
you've
done
them
and
then
we're
just
like
movies
through
the
steps.
You
know
it's
it's
a
great
way
for
people
to
wind
up
with
a
thing
at
the
end.
So
like
I
made
this
thing
and
then
people
say
well,
how
did
you
make
it
good
look?
I
have
no
idea.
I
was
moving
too
fast.
D
I
didn't
actually
absorb
that
part.
I
was
just
following
instructions,
and-
and
so
you
know,
if
that's
your
goal,
if
their
goal
is
for
people
to
have
this
tool
at
the
end
of
it
and
then
want
to
come
back
to
you
and
be
like
alright
now
what
do
I
do
with
this
tool?
Then
that's
one
way
to
do
it,
but
if
your
goal
is
for
evil
to
feel
really
empowered
I'm
like
I,
understand
how
this
works.
That's
a
very
different
approach.
E
A
A
B
D
A
Goal
is
that
people
actually
are
able
to
design
them
too.
So
we
start
with
a
basic
freaking
thing,
but
we're
gonna
do
up
into
this.
We
want
to
have
the
universal
access
or
the
3d
printer
construction
set.
Workbench
and
freecad.
That's
I
didn't
really
say
that
in
there,
but
we
need-
and
we
have
a
part
of
that
workbench.
So
we
we
have
basically,
like
you,
click
on
here.
You
drag-and-drop
make
a
frame
make
an
axis
so
far.
E
G
C
A
Where
you
can
customize
it
to
any
size
and
shape
next
thing:
is
access
so
just
length
an
orientation,
but
so
it's
reinforcing,
there's,
there's
freecad
reinforces
that
you're
gonna
build
it
in
real
life
and
it's
all
the
same
thing
throughout
and
we
cover
that
in
the
morning
sessions,
which
is
how
do
you
design
this
thing?
So
no,
no
I!
A
C
A
Can
even
show
like
when
people
when
we
do
the
final
build,
we
can
have
a
demo
there,
where
you
have
a
different
configuration
of
axes
like,
for
example,
the
d3d
simple,
which
doesn't
have
three
axes
but
as
for
so
you've
got
more
of
a
standard
on
both
Z
sides
supporting
axis
kind
of
you
so
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I'm.
Every
single
part
should
reinforce
itself
cuz
you're
you're,
building
off
the
the
universal
controller.
If,
for
its
Arduino
aspect,
you
redo
the
controller,
so
you
learn
about
marlin
and
all
that,
like
you,
learn.
A
E
A
C
F
C
D
Then
your
needs
a
very
different
approach
and
I
think
likely.
What
will
need
to
happen
is
need
to
be
very
intentional
about
who
you
reach
out
to
do
these
students
I,
don't
know,
I,
know
you've
done
this
in
the
past.
I,
don't
know
how
that
worked
out,
but
I
give
you
have
you
can
make
connections
to
engineering
programs
and-
and
you
know,
people
who
were
actively.
D
F
A
Okay,
so
that's
feedback,
and
so
basically
it's
like
okay,
this
is
ain't
gonna
be
for
novices.
I
was
aiming
that
yeah
would
be.
Anyone
like
with
instructions
part
that
you
build
step
A
through
Z,
yes,
that
you
can
get
that,
but
if
you're
more
it
depends
on
how
skilled
you
are,
but
but
it
is
on
one
level
you
build
crazy
stuff
that
works,
but.
C
B
G
D
D
D
D
E
D
So
the
the
context
is
really
critical
and
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
value
here
for
people
coming
from
both
sides
of
that
equation.
It
just
has
to
be
separated
out,
so
you've
got,
you
know,
attract
for
people
who
are
already
or
you
can
even
just
gonna
define
I
was
like
this
is
like
the
whole
track
and
depending
on
where
you're
coming
from
here
I
mean
it.
You
know
if
you're
for,
like
for.
A
Progress
is
possible
to
do
the
course,
which
has
three
versions
which
has
this
is,
but
still
the
set
you
go
through
the
same
material,
but
you've
got
three
curricula
well
or
like
two
one
is
the
beginning,
and
one
is
the
advanced.
Oh,
you
think
they'll
be
doable.
Then
you
can
still
do
all
this,
but
treat
it
in
a
different
way.
E
D
For
for
a
beginner,
you
know
any
one
of
these
modules,
like
the
you
know,
the
universal
access
and
so
on.
That
could
be
a
fact
that
one
module
could
be
a
full.
You
know
four
day
all
day
course,
and
then
they
need
several
days
to
kind
of
absorb
and
like
process
that
and
then
they
could
do
another
one.
So
it's
really
I
think
is
just
about
how
much
space
you
allow
for
each
thing
to
happen
and
how
much
time
you
allow
for
explaining
what's
happening.
E
D
B
D
C
D
To
function
if
and
quickly
in
a
new
CAD
program
can
take
an
afternoon
and
that's
it
they're
used
to
it.
You
know
giving
and
I
think
the
the
main
thing
that
I
worry
about.
Having
having
been
a
classroom
instructor
myself
for
people
of
varying
skill
sets
and
backgrounds,
is
that
if
people
feel
like
they
are
slower
and
then
what
the
class
is
designed
for
in
that
class
can't
be
flexible
for
them.
It
just
ramps
up
stress
for
them
until
they
get.
D
You
know
more
and
more
stressed
out
that
they're
they're
slowing
the
class
down
or
they're
not
keeping
up
with
it
and
the
more
stress
they
get
the
harder
of
time
they
have
understanding
what's
happening
until
they
just
like
fail
out
completely
and
like
they
didn't,
learn
anything
and
they're
super
you
know
didn't
enjoy
it
didn't,
learn
anything
and
you
know
won't
speak
highly
of
it
later.
You
know
so,
if
you're
running
your
classes
like
yeah,
this
is
a
gauntlet
and
if
you
make
it
through
to
the
end
you're
a
badass.
D
C
D
So
but
yeah
I
think
there's
a
lot
that
you
can
do
that's
fairly
simple
in
terms
of
you
know,
you
can
use
type
form,
for
example,
is
a
really
good.
You
know
free
or
very
cheap
service.
You
can
use.
So
that's
like
create
questionnaire
forms,
and
so
you
know
so
what
I
would
suggest
is
you
know
you
and
I
are
gonna
talk
about
this
once
this
is
a
little
further
along
and
when
there's
a
more
complete
offering
like
this
is
what
the
course
is.
D
D
Can
send
out
that
says
you
know,
okay,
tell
us
a
bit
about
you
know
what
caused
it
after
you
worked
on
in
the
past
and
like
have
just
be
able
to
say,
like
you
know,
are
you
novice,
beginner
intermediate
advanced
in
you
know
microcontrollers
CAD,
C
and
C
whatever
and
then
be
able
to
essentially
say,
like
you
know,
okay,
the
we're
gonna
recommend
you
take
the
you
know
the
one
two
or
four-day
version
of
this
module.
Based
on
your
background.
D
D
From
from
a
variety
of
backgrounds
to
really
absorb
and
integrate
this
and
become
part
of
a
new
community
that
can
actually
help
you
modify
and
extend
this
technology,
you
either
have
to
just
ignore
novices
at
first
to
start.
My
age
is
like
you
have
to
have
their
northern
completely
and
just
go
for
the
people
who
are
already
kind
of
advanced
practitioners,
or
you
have
to
really
slow
down
the
process.
A
A
A
G
A
C
A
C
B
A
F
D
It
is
that
you
know
you've
been
working
on
this
on
your
compound
in
Missouri
for,
like
the
last
ten
years
and
you're
kind
of
ready
for
the
next
stage,
where
this
actually
seeds
to
other
places
in
the
world,
and
so
it's
a
really
like
you're
looking
for
apostles
like
you're
you're.
Looking
for
the
people
who
really
understand
what
you're
doing,
who
can
understand
it
well,
I'll
have
to
teach
the
next
generation
of
people
in
places
that
are
not
physically
connected
to
you.
D
So
what
I
think
what
you
know
I
would
design
this
curriculum
with
an
eye
to
finding
the
people
who
really
get
it.
Who
already
know
how
I
already
know
a
lot
of
this
stuff
and
who
have
already
taught
some
of
it
and
start
with
something.
That's
gonna
be
a
little
more
closed,
a
lot
more
focused
on
not
only
like
here's
how
you
build
all
this
stuff,
but
here's
how
you
teach
other
people
how
to
build
it.
D
This
here
is,
you
know
how
I'm
gonna
teach
this
variation
of
it
and
here's.
You
know
I
already
have
the
connections
to
start
doing
this
on
my
own.
So
that's
your
goal.
I
think
finding
a
small
group
of
people
who
are
already
half
experts
is
gonna,
get
you
a
lot
further
and
then
the
next
round
after
that
is
going
to
be
more
open
it
up
to
a
wider
audience.
E
A
Okay,
here's
another
element:
I
want
to
introduce
and
see
what
you
think
about
that.
So
the
ideal
outcome
is
that
we're
teaching
open
source
product
development
like
so
you
get
basic
skills
into
four
days
and
you
do
some
projects
intangible
project
in
the
last
five
days.
So
it's
all
building
up
to
open
source
part
of
all
the
real
products
and
each
can't
build.
E
C
A
You
like
it
or
not,
you're.
You
really
are
participating
in
open
product
development,
at
least
for,
of
course,
the
instructors
are
because
they're
contributing
some
of
the
content
and
all
the
time.
The
idea
was
that
the
people
that
come
out
of
that
they
can
set
up
for
it
like
with
a
small
tools.
Of
course
they
have
to
work
at
it,
but
they
can
set
up
small
production
of,
say,
3d
printed
goods,
some
very
popular
videos,
whatever.
A
For
people
who
want
to
start
producing
in
their
communities,
so
yes
get
yourself
a
little
micro
factory,
little
3d,
printer
and
start
doing
basic
stuff
and
of
course
develop
that,
but
but
I
wanted
that
to
be
like
hey.
This
is
so
accessible
to
so
many
people
already
like.
If
you
have
a
3d
printer,
then
you.
G
A
Need
to
know
how
to
design
and
how
to
produce
parts
which
I
think
in
nine
days
we
should
be
able
to
teach
that,
and
so
people
are
actually
getting
into
productive,
like
real
productive
capacity.
What
is
that?
Are
you
considering
that
idea
that
hey
we're
coming
onto
this
and
were
like,
for
example,
if
we
have
a
curated
set
of
production
engineering's
for
twelve
top
products,
like
say
the
3d
printed
pen,
a
vise,
cordless
drill
later
and
all
these
other
things
later?
But
it's.
A
E
A
D
E
D
D
But
design,
thinking
and
being
able
to
say,
okay
here
is
a
set
of
design
criteria
like
you
would
get
from
a
client.
You
know
here's
a
problem:
I
want
you
to
solve
it,
based
on
these
constraints,
go
and
solve
it
and
then
actually
go
to
type
and
produce
a
video
production
quality,
a
thing
that
solves
that
problem.
Yeah.
E
D
If
you're
trying
to
get
people
from
zero
to
hero,
look
like
unpack
that
into
its
own
thing
and
and
market
it
as
a
design
thinking
it
can
open
source
design
thinking,
you
know,
workshop
I
think
you'll
get
a
lot
of
people
and
there's
some
really
good.
You
know
design,
you
know
some
training
programs
in
schools.
You
could
partner
with
I
just.
A
F
D
D
D
Know
build
these
things
now
come
back
for
the
next
session
and
we'll
walk
you
through
the
process
of
how
to
apply
those
skills
and
machines
in
a
you
know
like
a
client
facing
design
process.
You
know,
cuz
I
mean
they
think
that
the
the
thing
that
I
worry
about
with
the
way
that
you
presented
it
is
there's
a
certain
amount
of
like.
If
you
build
it,
they
will
come
attitude
that
a
lot
of
people
end
up
with
in
these
kind
of
training
programs.
D
D
Put
it
the
opportunities
that
make
you
know
these
kind
of
entrepreneurial
projects
interesting,
come
from
being
able
to
make
connections
that
are
not
immediately
obvious
to
you
or
do
the
people
around
you
I
would
imagine.
So
if
we
go
back
to
you
know
this
idea
of
your
your
first
round
of
people
are
gonna,
be
advanced
sort
of
inner
circle.
People
who're
gonna,
be
the
next.
The
first
round
of
teachers
in
like
regional,
leads
and
other
places
they.
F
D
We've
got
people
in
Missouri,
because
people
in
Rio
we've
got
people
in
Moscow
whatever
who
are
all
familiar
with
this
ecosystem,
interacting
as
nodes,
and
then
you
can
start
mapping
needs
and
and
sort
of
you
know
capable
services
and
resources,
and
so
on
around
those
nodes,
and
then
what
you
start
doing
is
saying
bringing
people
in
for
these.
You
know
these
business
see
like
more
business
oriented
classes
and
show
them
that
the
map
that
you
have
you
say:
okay,
here's
where
we
have
here's
the
resources
that
we
have
to
work
with
within
our
network.
D
D
You
have
access
to
whatever
you
bring
to
the
table
and
whatever
you
can
go
out
and
find,
but
this
is
the
the
substrate
on
which
we're
gonna
start
building
it.
You
do
someone
using
the
structure
that
you've
already
established
and
that's
when
you
can
start
saying
like
okay,
you
know
if
these
things
are
cheap
to
produce
here
and
have
high
demand
over
there.
D
If
I
can
send
my
you
know
if
I
can
design
something
to
send
it
to
this,
guy
did
produce
here
and
then
managed
logistics
of
him
getting
it
these
people
over
here,
then
that's
a
business,
but
for
one
person
you
just
sort
of
create
that
from
nothing
and
expect
it
to
work
is
I.
Think
unrealistic.
Well,.
A
A
Right
no
I
agree
with
you
on
that.
Let
me
add
one
more
thing:
yeah
absolutely
like
product
a
business
is
not
a
product.
Business
is
like
marketing
and
distribution
and
fulfillment,
and
all
that
like
yeah
product,
does
not
knit
for
business.
But
here's
a
twist
on
that
I
talked
about
this
thing
called
distributed.
Market
substitution,
which
is
you've,
got
products
that
you
know
already
exist
and
we're
saying
we're.
Gonna
compete
with
them,
god
damn
it
we're.
A
With
like
whoever
detergent,
here's
plastic
dog
toys,
here's
like
I,
don't
know
whatever
vacuum,
robots
quarters
just
but
common
items,
even
plumbing
fittings,
potentially
that
are
are
custom.
Custom
like
ball
valves,
open
source,
bio
digesters,
whatever,
like
your
stuff,
that's
like
the
different
thing
here
is
like
I
always
and
I'm,
trying
to
reconcile
this
like.
How
does
this
work
with
what
we're
trying
to
do?
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Because
it's
always
when,
when
it
comes
to
product
development,
someone
all-time
thinks
about
innovation
and
I'm,
saying
we
don't
need
innovation
like
you
use
toilet
paper,
you
use
a
mug
and
a
pen
and
a
desk
we're
gonna
do
go
along
the
distributed
market
substitution
route,
meaning
converting
businesses
converting
industries
to
open-source.
So
what
that
the
innovation
is
not
you're
developing
a
new
product,
the
innovation
is
you're
developing
a
new
way
to
produce
the
same
product.
That's
the
ultimate
goal
like.
A
This
cup
in
the
local
production,
what
am
I
gonna
redesign
a
cup?
That's
you
know
it's!
It's
like.
We
already
know
people
use
stuff.
You
know
in
this
round
here
we've
got
thousand
okay,
my
town
maysville
thousand
people.
They
spend
$20,000.
So
there's
a
twenty
million
dollar
economy
of
products
that
I
could
be
selling
to
this
thousand
person.
Town
right.
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Han,
oh
sorry,
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
you
guys,
you're
saying
it,
but
I
mean
what
you're
saying
right
now
is
that's
the
circular
economy
concept,
but
also
it's
just
the
plain
D
retardation
of
the
economic
system.
From
saying
we're:
externalizing,
all
the
cost
is
saying:
hey
we're
actually
gonna
internalize
the
fact
that
we're
cutting
down
forests
and
ripping
up
the
environment
and
killing
people
with
this
and
we're
just
complying
with
Wall
Street,
because
that's
how
they
inefficient
global
systems
have
been
created.
They're
not
lower
cost
they're,
just
externalized
cost
kind.
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We
teach
our
instructors,
and
but
since
this
is
so
much
knowledge
in
nine
days,
we
can
only
do
a
survey,
but
I
was
hoping
for
this
survey,
like
the
ideal
outcome
to
me
is
a
person
comes
to
this
course
and
the
novice,
and
by
the
end
of
it,
they're
gonna,
be
able
to
design
a
3d
printed
brush
this
a
common
thing
where
you
can
actually
print
the
there's
ways
you
can
actually
print
brushes
with
the
fine
hairs
by
going
rapidly
like
an
air
and
stuff
like
that.
So
it's.
A
It's
on
the
wiki
pretty
printed
brush
like
it's
crazy,
that
kind
of
stuff
you
can
go.
So
that's
what
I
want
people
to
come
out
of.
It's
like
okay.
This
is
a
stupid
Prada
to
brush
it's
like:
okay,
that's
not
exciting,
that
doesn't
get
Google
excited
or
but
that
doesn't
get
a
Silicon
Valley
excited,
but
it's
the
most
exciting
thing,
because
you
can
be
doing
it
right
now
and
it
could
be
for
a
real
part
of
your
real
economy,
because
people
buy
brushes,
you
know
mm-hm,
but
I
mean
what
do
you
think
I
mean?
A
Can
we
get?
This
I
mean
ideally
I'm
thinking
of
this
survey
that
just
because
you
have
done
it,
your
world
is
transformed
and
also
how
do
you
apply
augmented
reality
learning
into
this?
Interestingly,
the
so
there's
a
guy
from
Nigeria,
that's
joining
the
team
and
he's
into
AR,
and
it's
like
holy
cow.
Maybe
we
can
talk
about
augmented
reality,
instructionals
of
how
you
you
learn
to
build
these
things
faster,
so
you
can
learn
ever
more
quickly
how
to
do
this.
A
Yeah
but
okay,
but
the
planes
yes,
okay,
we're
gonna,
have
to
be
very
clear
about
the
target
audience
and
making
sure
that
it's
structurally,
you
might
think
this
is
gonna,
come
out
in
a
wash
because
this
is
like
initial,
but
once
we
have
all
the
curriculum,
we
all
sit
down
and
we
say:
okay,
this
we
can
teach
and
then
we
can
decide.
Okay.
How
exactly
do
we
teach
it
like?
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The
way
to
an
Autodesk,
a
our
CAD
project,.
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Doing
stuff
and
they're
doing
it
at
their
skill
level,
so
I
think
just
this
idea
of
immersion
training
like
dive
into
the
deep
end
thing
from
our
experience.
That's
it's
a
value,
a
significant
value
of
people
just
going
out
of
their
comfort
zone
and
trying
new
things.
That's
one
of
the
big
attractions
for
the
people.
That
least
came
here
when
we
position
it
as
like.
A
crazy
learning
experience
where
you
do
a
lot
of
different
things
that
we
long
works
and
it's
got
a
good
audience.
I
mean
yes,
yeah,
so
I.
A
G
B
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That
was
just
the
training,
but
now
here
the
idea
is
that
you
argue
getting
some
taking
some
products
home
that
it's
it's
all
about
your
motivation.
It
depends
on
who
comes
to
this
hope.
Hopefully
we're
reaching
out
to
people
who
are
entrepreneurial,
mm-hmm,
but
you're.
Right
I
mean
though
there
are
significant
limits
to
to
the
entrepreneurial
population
is
like
and
I
mean.
Is
the
number
I
here's
maybe
like
5%
of
the
population,
and
not
only
that
I
mean
all
those
people
are
in
Silicon.
Valley
and
they're
not
interested
in
this
mundane
printing.
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it's.
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Making
the
assumption
that
we've
got
fast
internet
and
one
person
just
one
person,
does
it
instead
of
many
people
presenting
that
so
people
listen
through
the
internet
for
one
person
who's
a
specialist
on
that
doing
that.
But,
oh
no,
that
that
to
me
says
that
our
teachers
don't
know
the
stuff
enough.
If
we
have
to
rely
on
other
people,
so
I
think
each
of
us.