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From YouTube: The Revolution Shall Not Be Funded
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So the current model is that we'll have to fund it. See discussion at minute 39:30.
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B
Pretty
good,
actually
lots
of
cover
all
right.
How
would
how
did
the.
A
Oh
well,
so
it's
a
lady
stephanie.
She
she's
the
she's
works
at
the
school
she's,
a
executive
in
one
of
the
schools
high
school,
it's
actually
from
when
I
went
to.
I
met
her
at
when
I
presented
at
umkc
when
brian
invited
me
actually.
So
it
was
interesting
that
this
this
came
out
of
that.
A
So
it's
it's
three
days
and
but
we
were
I
mean
where,
of
course,
I
brought
up
the
idea
of
the
swarm
build
in
kansas
city
because
it's
high
school,
we
we're
talking
about
the
two
teachers
that
are
in
the
group
they're
talking
about
yeah.
That's
how?
How
can
we
make
it
happen
like
50
kids
for,
like
maybe
practically
speaking,
logistically
like?
A
Can
we
round
up
50
kids
one
day
a
week
for
four
weeks
and
we
build
a
house
yeah
that
kind
of
thing,
so
that
was
interesting,
that's
interesting
to
yeah
I
mean
I.
I
think
I
think
we
should
be
thinking
about
how
to
make
it
happen.
In
many
cases
like
that,
yeah.
B
A
Oh
around
the
us,
are
you
talking
about
just
kansas
city
or
well.
A
Yeah
yeah,
no,
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
there's
potential.
It
would
be.
That
would
be
great
like
the
way
you
could
fly
is
you're
talking
about
affordable
housing,
so
it's
community
service
couldn't
fall
under
community
service
and,
however,
we
do
that
yeah.
I
mean
lots
of
details
to
work
out,
but.
A
Yeah,
so
this
is
one
of
the
there
will
be
different
ways
to
execute
on
the
house,
and
this
could
be
one
way
one
path
to
to
follow.
See
if
see
if
it
works.
A
Yeah,
that's
I
haven't,
I
haven't
thought
much
much
about,
but
no
I
mean
the
teachers
were
like
yeah,
you
know.
So
I
start
with
my
presentation
on
osc
and
the
whole
context
of
this,
and
the
engagement
is
pretty
high.
It's
like,
I
could
see
the
yeah
people.
A
B
A
Need
I
mean,
and
if
I
mean
if
the
technique
works,
that
we
really
can
run
crews
that
don't
have
the
skill
we
we
teach
and
that
that's
a
whole,
I
I
sent
you
the
the
thing,
the
the
task
management
of
that
like
with
a
scrum
board
and
quality
control.
Did
you?
Did
you
see
that.
A
Right
but
the
thing
to
figure
out
there
in
any
of
these
methods.
How
do
you
really
keep
tight
quality
control
over
the
entire
project
and,
as
I
will
have
more
time
to
develop
this,
it's
like
you
could
get
pretty
focused
on
on
techniques
using
modern
technology
that
allow
you
to
do
this
and
project
manage
it
effectively.
A
So
things
like
I
mean
so
so.
You've
got
a
scrum
board
like
the
idea.
Here's
scrum
board,
because
once
again
the
task
challenges
many
many
different
tasks,
you're,
building
up
a
skills.
You
know
training
people
without
the
skill
right
so
well.
A
A
cheat
sheet
for
at
a
very,
very
granule
granular
level
for
everything
you
come
to.
The
scrum
board
to
check
in,
like
literally
the
the
ticket,
would
be
corresponding
to
your
cheat
sheet.
So
when
you
come
back
for
verification,
you
you'd
have
to
show
proof
so
either
the
person,
the
quality
controller,
actually
looks
at
the
work
or
you
can
take
a
picture
and
and
upload
it
and
it's
a
it's
a
image.
That's
visible
and
quality
controllable
various
techniques.
A
B
A
I
saw
that
I
replaced
it
for
you
and
not
not
that
one.
Actually,
that
was
that
was
just
that's
just
by
itself.
You
just
pre-programmed
it
with
arduino
and
then
the
next
day
after
that,
wes
actually
wrote
an
app
and
to
program
an
xbox
joystick.
So
you
had
a
cell
phone.
You
had
the
wireless
microcontroller
addition
to
the
to
the
standard,
controller
and
yeah
yeah,
so
that
that
makes
me
think
about
other
options.
Like
I
mean
the
reality
of
like
say,
say
we're
doing
like
for
the
campus
here.
A
It's
like
literally,
I
can
be
sitting
here.
We've
got
internet,
we've
got
five
centimeter
positioning
accuracy
through
real-time
kinematics
in
an
open
source
software
suite
called
ardupilot,
and
they
have
software
for
rovers,
meaning
vehicles,
land
vehicles
stuff
like
that.
That
sounds
so
crazy,
but
it
could
be
really
good
like,
for
example,
for
the
micro
track.
I
mean
real
issue
on
safety
and-
and
you
know
managing
that
so
you're
not
getting
beat
up
right
on
the
machine.
A
You
know
just
even
even
if
to
remote
control
it,
because
it's
like
the
old
day
of
the
digging
the
foundation
stuff.
I
mean
that's
really
really
hard
on
the
body
and
all
that
so
and
I
think
there's
there's
a
huge
potential
there,
and
so,
as
we,
you
know,
as
we
think,
and
the
relevance
to
the
production
facility,
like
imagine,
also
like
forklifts,
where
or
even
a
cb
product
like
cb
production,
which
is
hugely
labor
intensive.
A
So
imagine
then
you're
actually
programming
your
tractors
to
do
everything
so
so
you've
got
first
digging
of
a
big
pile
with
very
precise
coordinates.
Then
a
tractor
that
just
goes
up
to
that
pile
and
by
remote
control
just
goes
goes
to
the
brick
press
to
deposit
the
soil
and
things
like
that
stuff.
A
That's
it's
almost
like
science
fiction,
but
I
mean
quite
like
when
I
I
just
reviewed
the
the
state
of
the
rj
pilot
project
and
there's
a
bunch
of
bunch
more
autonomous
land
vehicles
that
came
up
since
the
last
I
looked
since
I
looked
like
maybe
a
year
or
two
ago
so
like
the
experience
set,
is
building
there
and
the
hardware
to
execute.
A
It
is
under
a
thousand
bucks
that
we
could
add
to
our
infrastructure,
for,
like
imagine
the
same
tractor,
but
now
you've
got
it's
very,
very
valuable
addition
for
about
a
thousand
dollars
more
in
hardware,
which
is
like
wow.
It's
pretty
amazing,
because
that's
that's
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
for
any,
like
whatever
john
deere
or
whatever,
like
bobcat,
has
remote
control
additions
and
just
their
their
little
joystick.
It's
like
fifty
thousand
dollars
or
for
us
it's
like
just
the
joystick
function.
That's
like
a
hundred
dollars.
You
know.
B
In
afghanistan
we
we
had
a
remote
control,
bulldozer
for
mines
and
a
bobcat.
Oh.
B
Yeah
we
we
drove
over
an
id,
and
it
had
like
these
multiple
hundred
pound
steel
rollers
on
the
front
of
it
and
the.
B
Up
and
like
one
of
them
landed
like
right
now,
these
things
are
like
hundreds
of
pounds
of
solid
steel,
it's
pretty
scary,
but
anyways,
I'm
I'm!
You
want
a
quick
update.
B
Actually,
before
I
do
that,
let
me
let
me
just
try
and
capture
some
of
this.
What
you're
talking
about
so
potential
swarm,
build
partnership
with
high
school
students
may
solve
labor
problem.
B
And
add
some
cool
impact
to
the
project
yeah
we're
talking
about
just
go
ahead.
A
Yeah,
the
metal
level
being
the
social
technology
that
we've
developed
for
swarms.
I
mean
man
it's
time
to
put
it
to
real
use,
because
you
know
I've
been
bragging
about
this
for
forever.
It's
like
oh
yeah,
swarm,
builds
this
and
that
but
man,
if
applied,
scalably
replicably
in
various
situations,
very
powerful,
there's
huge
potential
there.
It
falls
out
like
this
kind
of
possibility,
with
the
high
school
falls
out
like
pretty
directly
out
of
what
we're
trying
to
develop
like
if
we're
going
to
be
able
to
run
a
crew
of
24
with
very
detailed
instructionals.
A
I
mean
there's
no
reason
why
this
doesn't
apply
in
all
kinds
of
contexts,
and
that's
that's
why
I
was
incur
so
encouraged
after
2016
like
I
was
pumped
man
and
then,
of
course,
you
know
the
house
takes
a
long
time
to
finish.
Then
we
went
to
through
different
iterations
katrina.
You
know
it
was
really
hard
for
her
kind
of
like
burning
out
after
that,
but
that
potential
is
it's
huge
and
I
think,
we're
very
close
to
really
really
capturing
it.
B
Okay
yep,
so
let
me
just
walk
through
I
get
I
don't
know
is
it
makes
sense
for
me
to
walk
through
what
I've
been
working
on.
B
Cool
okay,
so
last
week
we
left
the
meeting
and
the
the
new
priorities
were
for
me:
build
the
timeline
for
construction
and
account
for
like
the
administrative
requirements
and
government
compliance
and
then
the
emergent
ventures
application.
B
So
those
are
the
two
things
that
I
focused
on
for
the
construction
timeline.
I
created
a
new
page
and
you'll
see
it
on
my
log.
B
So
as
you
look
in,
there
is
a
excellent
website
with
all
the
useful
links
with
the.
B
Planning
and
development,
or
something
like
that,
and
so
you
can-
you
can
read
through
on
a
digital
library,
that's
easy
to
navigate
all
of
the
building
codes,
all
of
the
zoning
requirements,
basically
like
anything
legal
related
to
building
in
the
city,
and
so
I'm
still
an
information
gathering
phase.
But
I
think
I
think
the
next
steps
are.
B
B
It's
not
time,
sensitive
right
now,
but
like
I
think
that
is
like
how
we
move
forward
tactically-
and
I
haven't
gotten
any
luck
hearing
back
from
my
contacts
in
missouri
like
for
a
building
mentor.
So
my
recommendation
would
be
either
you
or
I
can
do
this,
but
we
need
to
talk
to
a
human
being
and
just
lay
out
sort
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
and
just.
A
B
B
Assuming
the
spec
bill
is
going
to
be
in
kansas
city
and
so
there's
a
there's.
A
program
called
advanced
kc
and
advanced
kca
is
like
this
initiative
on
the
government.
That
includes
economic
development
programs
for
opportunity
zones,
and
so
I've
got
the
point
of
contact
under
key
points.
Who's,
carrie
tyndall
and
I
didn't
reach
out
to
her
yet.
But
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
your
radar.
B
So
so
I
think
that's
the
big
takeaway
there
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
information
I
haven't
gone
through
at
all,
yet,
but
kind
of
what
I've
gleaned
is.
One
of
the
links
up
here
is
interactive
maps.
So
they've
got
some
gis
software
that
lets
you
see
view
the
entire
city
by
zone
and
a
lot
of
different,
useful
filters
with
respect
to
like
like
who
owns
what
property
and
where
the
floodplains
are,
and
all
this
other
stuff
there's
much.
A
B
A
Yep
and
like
just
how
far
did
you
delve
into
the
inspections
themselves,
like
I'm
looking
at
it
yeah?
That
seemed
like
time
timelines
like
that
yep.
B
I
think
we're
a
long
way
from
the
timeline
specifically
because
we
have
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions
about
what
we're
building
on
site,
whether
or
not
like
what
the
electrician
inspector
needs
to
see.
What
the
or
you
I
don't
even
know
if
you
need
separate
trade
inspections
or
if
you
just
need
like
one
building
inspection,
so
I'm
still
I'm
still
at
that
level
of
detail.
B
What
I
have
noticed,
though,
is
anybody
who's
going
to
build
a
new
structure
in
a
residential
zone
either
has
to
be
a
general
contractor
or
have
a
general
contractions
license.
There
has
to
be
some
general
contractor
who's
in
charge,
overseeing
a
project
who
answers
to
a
building
official
who
represents
the
city
or
you
have
to
be
the
primary
resident,
and
you
have
to
buy
all
the
material
and
do
all
the
labor
yourself.
A
B
I'm
like
90
sure
I'm
interpreting
the
law
correctly
there,
and
so
you
had
mentioned
you're
going
out
for
your
gc
license.
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
going
to
apply
to
kc
but
like
that
may
be
yeah.
B
Even
if
you
don't
do
it
like,
we
need
some
general
contractor
to
own
the
project
from
like
a
management
standpoint
yep.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
summary
of
the
building
code
timeline
permit
situation.
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
more
unanswered
questions
but,
like
I
said
still,
information
gathering
at
this.
A
And
generalizing
this,
if
we
always
go
like
you
know,
whenever
we
study
something
we
go
to
explain,
we
go
one
level
up.
It's
like
there's
only
certain
things
that
are
inspected
in
general,
so
the
start
would
be.
Here's
in
general,
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six
seven
x
things
that
need
to
get
inspected
and
like
can
we
get
any
answers,
such
as
okay,
like
we,
it
might
be
for
inspections.
It
might
be
eight
inspections
whatever
it
is.
A
B
A
B
A
Yeah,
it's
probably
like
it's
probably
something
that's
less
than
a
code
than
just
talking
to
someone
at
the
department,
like
you
think
that
they'll
be
worthwhile.
Just
call
up
some
just
call
up
the
zoning,
the
inspection
office
directly
saying
hey,
building
new
construction.
How
many
permits
how
many
inspections
do
I
need
like
that
kind
of
thing,
or
would
that
shortcut
anything
or
would
that.
B
B
So
in
theory
and
like
the
first
step
is
to
submit
a
building
application
request
and
then,
once
that
request
is
approved,
then
you
can
submit
the
plans
and
engineering
documents
and
so
there's
an
administrative
review
that
happens
before
you
break
ground
and
then
once
that
happens,
I
think
then
it'll
illuminate
what
the
inspection
schedule
is
going
to
be.
But
that's
so
like
that's
path.
B
One
register
on
the
compass
for
kansas
city,
and
then
the
second
thing
we
need
to
do
is
talk
to
a
human
like
multiple
human
beings
and
have
all
the
conversations
and
ask
all
the
questions,
because
I
wouldn't,
I
would
trust
a
conversation
with
somebody
in
the
government
more
than
I
would
trust
my
reading
of
the
code,
because
I'm
going
to
miss
something
and
it
it's
not
written
in
a
way
that
says
like
if
you're,
a
single
family
detachment
builder.
This
is
what
you
need
and
here's
a
property.
B
Now,
do
you
want
me
to
reach
out
to
the
advanced
kc
representative
to
start
and
see
where
that
leads,
or
do
you
want
to
do
it.
B
Advanced
kc
is
the
sorry.
Let
me
let
me
find
it.
Oh
it's
on
page,
it's
it's
the
initiative,
that's
part
of
the
city
development
department,
that
includes
like
opportunity
zone
and
it's
supposed
to
stimulate
growth
in
kansas
city
and
there's
a
point
of
contact
listed
who's
like
the
the
associate
director
or
something
of
the
entire
department.
A
It
would
be
useful,
let's
see
the
what's.
The
which
point
are
we
getting
traction
is
like?
Okay,
we've
looked
at
a
parcel,
we're
looking
at
langley.
We
probably
want
to
be
like
what
would
the
discussion
be
regarding
like
what
are
the
like?
What
are
the
specific
specific
initiatives
right
now
happening.
B
B
The
conversation
going,
hey
carrie,
my
name
is
john.
I
represent
martian
and
ose,
and
here's
what
we
want
to
do.
Here's
what
we're
thinking
like
one
is
there
an
alignment
with
advanced
kc
that
you
can
think
of
and
two
we're
new
to
this?
What
sort
of
resources
can
you
provide
or
guidance
in
terms
of
how
to
start
this
process
with
a
goal
date
of
you
know,
march,
1st
being
where
we
break.
B
B
A
Yeah
would
yeah
like.
Is
there
an
opportunity
like
what
the
questions
are
they're
relevant
or
what?
What
programs?
Maybe
as
we
build
the
first
building,
is
there
something
we
can
plug
into?
That's
got
some
certain
advantages
or
we're
doing
something
in
a
particular
way.
I
know
there's
a
another
thing
you
might.
I
don't
know
if
you
ever
run
into
this,
but
there's
cottage
like
a
cottage
housing
provision
in
kansas
city.
A
I
don't
know
if
you
ever
ran
into
it,
but
where
you
can
build
multiple,
smaller
buildings
on
the
same
lot,
we
found
out
about
it
when
we
were
looking
at
that.
Other
lot
like
that
was
a
special
thing
to
encourage
smaller,
smaller
housing,
for
multiple
people,
but,
like
okay,
is
there
some
program
that
we
don't
know
of
that?
We
should
consider
that
there's
some
n
that
meets
what
we
want
to
do,
but
yeah
yeah
it's
could
be.
It
could
be
a
good
discussion.
A
No,
I
think,
I
think,
go
ahead.
Yeah,
okay,
yeah
yeah.
B
B
The
second
thing
I
worked
on
was
the
emergent
ventures
app,
and
I
created
a
page
for
that
as
well.
I
don't
know
why
it's
taking
so
long
to
load.
I
started
with
the
logic
map.
B
I
did
some
research
into
past
winners,
so
on
that
page
you
I
cleaned
up
the
table
and
on
a
separate
sheet,
did
a
pivot
table.
So
you
could
see
the
number
of
awardees
by
category.
B
A
B
It
is
a
very
diverse
field
that
they
they
award,
they
award
research
grants
and
writing
grants
they
award.
You
know,
I
think
one
of
our
challenges
gonna
be
like
under
what
umbrella,
and
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
choose
this.
I
think
they
do,
but
it's
like
well,
how
does
osu
fit
in
and
that
yeah
answering
that
question
is
kind
of
why
I
started
working
on
the
logic
model,
so
that
I
could
tell
the
story
of
how
what
we're
doing
now
leads
up
to
achieving
some
grander
vision,
and
I
didn't
finish
it.
B
A
I
mean
different
different
ways
to
go.
It's
like
value
means
an
understandable
value
proposition
right,
so
there's
the
big
there's,
create
open
source
economy
below
that
create
methods
of
collaborative
economic
development,
with
real
products
below
that
developed
the
seed
ego
home
as
a
viable
open
product
to
dent
housing
issues
to
contribute
significantly
to
solving
housing
issues.
That's
kind
of
that
level
right,
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
and
frame
it
within
the
larger
framework.
A
And
we
do
that
through
developing
the
apprenticeship
model
like
what's
the
narrative
there
is
it's
like
okay,
we're
developing
infrastructure
for
for
t,
there's
the
there's
the
vet
issue,
there's
developing
hands-on
education
for
solving
pressing
world
issues.
Maybe
that's
that's
kind
of
like
the
angle
development,
a
practical
education
for
solving
pressing
world
issues,
converting
workforces
to
to
important,
meaningful
work
and
rapid
into
the
cdc
home,
so
write
a
narrative
along
those
lines,
something
along
that.
Let's
see
summarizing
some
of
the
people
who
won
already,
let's
see
what
we
got
there.
A
What
any
thoughts
on
that
like
what
kind
of?
What's
the
nature
of
it
like
the
scope.
B
I
mean
look,
I'm
just
going
to
read
off
some
of
the
grant
areas:
economics,
charter,
cities,
bioengineering
art,
hitchhiking,
defense,
procurement,
economics,
social
sports,
politics,
film,
medicine,
law,
history,
crypto,
philosophy,
physics,
chemistry.
I
mean
it's.
B
A
It
was
was
it
like
the
50k
initial
that
and
then,
if
you
do
well
with
that,
there's
more
was.
Was
that
what
I
recall
or.
B
They're
kind
of
vague-
I
I
don't
remember
something
I
can
go
to
the
website.
I
can
find
out.
B
B
A
B
I
think
it's
flexible
when
they
announce
a
new
cohort,
there's,
usually
a
in-person
meeting
or
like
seminar
or
something
like
that,
and
then
I
think
they
tailor
the
engagement
based
on
the
awardees,
and
I
mean,
if
you
just
think
about
it,
yeah
there's,
there's
two
guys
alex
tavirak
and
tyler
cowan
who
run
it
and
each
cohort
is
something
like
15
or
16
awardees,
and
it
happens
every
three
months.
So
if
you
do
have
some
sort
of
one-on-one
mentorship
with
the
like
core
team
of
people
who
run
this,
it's
probably
not
very
time.
A
B
It's
just
one
of
their
activities.
They
they're
professors
who
run
a
popular
blog
and
then
also
write
and
do
research
empty.
A
How
do
you,
after
finding
out
what
you,
what
you
now
know
about
this
so
you're
saying
yeah,
definitely
like
this
is
looking
into
the
details?
Put
you
know
how
much
time
do
we
spend
on
it,
and
or
is
this
something
that
you're
looking
at
you'd
suggest
more
like?
Oh
as
we
develop
the
program
here,
just
like
kind
of
falls
out
of
it,
or
this
is
something
okay
spend
like
a
week.
You
know
doing
this
or
or
how
much
time
budget
should
we
allow
to
this
in
our
in
our
yeah,
like
that.
B
I
I'm
dedicating
half
of
my
ose
time
to
building
the
foundation
for
this
application.
I
would
like
to
submit
something
in
time
for
the
next
cohort,
which
is
in
january.
A
B
Following
the
historical
pattern,
what
I
think
would
be
most
valuable
is
like
one
or
two
weeks
before
the
new
year.
You
and
I
dedicate
more
time
so
like
let's
call
it,
you
know
the
end
of
december.
I
think
we
should
have
all
of
the
information
and
tools
ready
to
write
the
1500
word
proposal.
B
All
of
the
key
documents
and
and
supporting
material
that
we
have
on
the
wiki
collected
so
that
we
can,
you
know-
maybe
maybe
it
starts
with
like
a
one
of
the
uploads-
is
a
link
sheet.
That
shows
the
highlights
from
the
wiki
the
like
most
important
stuff,
maybe
and
like
organizes
the
links
in
such
a
way
so
that
they
can
see.
Like
your
ted
talk,
they
can
see
like
third-party
press
coverage.
B
They
can
see
all
the
work
that
you've
done
historically
through
clickable
links
and
then
the
specific
project
documents
that
we
develop
between
now
and
then
for
the
swarm,
build
and
for
the
apprenticeship.
A
A
Where
is
that
the
wiki
link
I
have
is
just
the
application?
Is
there
a
website
for
the
oh
more
about
emergent
ventures?
Let's
see,
you
guys
see
that.
A
Okay,
I
should
probably
take
a
look
at
that
so
as
far
as
mercado's
center
is
that.
A
B
I
would
say
in
two
weeks
time:
we
need
to
have
a
strategy
for
how
we're
going
like
what
documents
we're
going
to
submit
that
are
supporting
and
how
to
organize
them,
and
then,
like
the
week
before
or
right
after
the
new
year,
we
should
be
cranking
out
the
1500
word
proposal
and
I
think,
and
so
like
near
term,
just
work
on
the
logic
model
with
me
and
then
I
would
also
ask
steve
what
he
thinks
just
based
on
what
you
said
about.
B
I
would
bring
it
up
with
him
and
just
see
if
he's
aware
of
it.
You
know
if
he's
ever
done
anything
like
this
before
and
ideally
somebody
who's
worked
with
you
longer
than
I
have.
That
can
help
articulate
the
like
the
grand
vision,
because
I've
been
very
tactical
with
you
for
the
past
six
months
and
I
think
it
might
might
help
to
get
somebody
who
sees
who's
been
with
you
for
long
enough
to
sort
of
see
like
how
you
progressed.
A
Okay
for
next
time
for
next
week,
what
would
you
like
me
to
do
on
this
on
the
immersion
adventures.
A
A
What
are
we
trying
to
solve?
Well?
Why
is
this
important?
How
is
this
relevant
and
imminent
or
like
timing,
because
timing
has
got
to
be
right?
Yeah,
okay,
I'll
give
it
some
thought.
I
didn't,
I
didn't
think
about
pitch
for
this,
but
yeah
we
can
spin
a
narrative
around
like
okay,
here's
the
we
know
we
have
certain
goals
around
the
cdca
home,
so
perhaps
flesh
it
out
very
clearly
and
expand
on
the
wise,
the
y's
like.
Why
are
we
doing
it?
A
So
it's
clear
to
others
like
why
we
see
this,
this
good
possibility
to
do
it
yeah,
and
perhaps
this
is
a
way.
So
the
unsolved
thing
is
like
the
solving
for
showing
up
which,
just
as
a
longer
term
narrative
to
date
has
been
oh
we're
going
to
collaborate
in
open
source
and
magically
we'll
develop
products,
and
it's
not
how
it
works.
We're
finding
out
the
current
mental
model
is
we're
going
to
start
a
viable
enterprise.
That
proves
the
economic
case
and
we're
gonna.
Our
new
problem
statement
is:
how
do
we
turn
people
away?
A
That's
that's
effectively
the
shift
since
since,
like
that
kind
of
really
became
clear
this
year,
that's
for
a
long
time.
I've
been
saying
the
revolution
will
not
be
funded
after
this
year.
The
the
answer
is
more
like
we're.
Gonna
fund
the
revolution
so
before
it
was
more
like.
Oh
it's
somehow
that
will
come
together,
it's
more
like
very,
very,
very
simple:
there's
enterprise,
there's
revenue
and
that's
the
case,
we're
making.
You
know
this.
B
B
Talked
about
before,
which
is
you
know,
I
I
don't
use
this
term
lightly,
but
it's
it's
a
little
bit
subversive
because
you're
operating
within
capitalism,
using
the
the
tools
and
the
rules
of
capitalism
to
empower
people,
people
who
are
disempowered
through
capitalism.
I
mean
you're
lowering
the
barrier
to
entry
to
a
higher
standard
of
life
by
creating
pathways
to
it
that
aren't
just
monetary
and
aren't
just
found
in
markets
you're
like
giving
people
the
skills
that
they
need,
which
I
think
is
kind
of
cool.
A
It's
in
some
way
we're
making
the
ultimate
case
for
capitalism
right,
because.
A
Yeah
because
capitalism
is
supposed
to
be
about
efficient
now
it
works
today,
it's
efficient
in
specific
things,
but
altogether
it
causes
major
damage
so
spinning.
So
so
getting
like
philosophical
into
that,
but
very
practical,
like
through
okay.
Here
is
open
source
like
how
that
that's
a
game
changer
and
we
are
dealing
like.
I
still
keep
asking
every
every
day.
It's
like
man.
A
Like
with
katrina,
I
keep
keep
having
this
discussion
like.
Is
it
really
that
nobody's
gonna
show
up
and
we're
just
gonna
have
to
buy
the
revolution
still
trying
to
get
deeper
insights
into
it?
But
there's
we
do
know
quite
a
bit
about
it
to
to
sp
to
spin
a
coherent
narrative
like
what
the
blocks
are
and
by
studying
those
blocks
like
okay.
A
Why
are
we
proposing
the
solution
like
that,
so
yeah
really
trying
to
explain
it
in
in
the
logic
model,
I
mean
the
application
is
very
short,
so
we'd
have
to
do
it.
I
mean
1500
words
to
explain
right.
The
state
of
the
world.
B
But
we're,
I
think,
we're
dancing
around
the
edges
of
it
right
now
and
I
think
what
the
terminology
may
work
out
is
like,
because
you
know,
philosophically
I
I
I
am
pro
capitalism
right.
B
I
just,
I
think
what
I'm
trying
to
do
through
ose
or
the
way
I'm
thinking
about
it
is
like
we're
reducing
the
ways
in
which
capitalism
can
be
corrupted
that
exploits
people
right
so
so
like
if,
if
empowerment
and
agency
are
shifted,
lower
and
lower
and
power
is,
is
transferred
from
like
the
oligarchies
and
monopolies
that
can
form
potentially
one
of
the
trade-offs
of
capitalism,
further
down
the
chain
to
the
individual
you're
still
in
capitalism,
but
you're
doing
it
in
a
more
ethical,
sustainable
way.
B
A
Yeah,
it
would
be
a
case
for
very
clear
writing
about
the
true
meaning
and
impact
of
distributive
distributed
enterprise
right
and
that's
that's
the
article
at
mit
innovations
journal
from
a
long
time
ago.
But
I
and
there's
some:
have
you
read
that
by
by
the
way
like
there's
some
narrative
there
yeah
take
a
look
at
that
because
it's
probably
like
the
innovations
journal,
v
2.0,
where
we
make
the
points
more
powerfully
and
more
simply
because
I
don't.
I
think
that
article
was
like
too
long
and
kind
of
too
confused.
A
Kind
of
maybe
yeah
yeah
just
a
compelling
story
of
why
it's
not
happening,
why
it's
important
and
how
we
are
uniquely
positioned
or
the
world,
is
uniquely
positioned
to
actually
accept
it
at
this
time
in
history,
yeah
anyway.
Anyway,
it's.
B
Yeah
I
mean
my
my
lizard
brain,
like
my
my
rock
smasher
brain
is
basically
saying,
like
you
know,
taking
bets.
For
example,
like
I
see
a
lot
of
human
potential,
that's
being
unused.
One
of
the
reasons
it's
being
unused
is
because
the
barriers
to
entry
are
just
a
little
bit
too
high
right
just
a
little
bit,
and
so
we
give
people
a
little
bit
more
resources
and
attention
and
help
them
participate
in
the
economy
in
a
more
productive
way.
That
I
mean
in
a
nutshell,
that's
just
kind
of
like
how
I'm
looking
at
it.
B
Yeah,
so
let
me
pause
there's
one
more
thing
I
did,
but
I
don't
want
to
break
this
conversation
if
you
have
more
to
say.
A
No,
it's
right
now,
it's
just
philosophical
until
we
actually
think
of
a
logic
out
of
a
good
pitch.
A
B
Got
it
okay,
okay,
so
the
final
thing
I
want
to
say
is:
I
went
on
the
investor
call
for
the
s2a
modular
home
company.
A
B
So
I
learned
some
interesting
things:
they're,
seeing
the
same
opportunity
they're,
seeing
a
strong
business
case
for
destruction,
disruption,
construction,
industry.
Their
strategy
is
to
form
35
factories
nationwide
in
the
next
three
years.
Their
value
prop
is
shorter
time,
lower
price,
better
design.
B
It's
90,
10
90
is
at
the
factory,
10
is
on
center
and
they
they
have
three
models:
the
sh-1,
which
is
a
the
seed
eco
home
comparable.
I
think
the
square
footage
is
smaller
and
it's
only
a
rendering
right
now
and
they
I
asked
what
the
price
point
is,
and
they
didn't.
They
were
very
vague,
they're
like
well,
it
depends
on
how
many
you're
going
to
order,
and
you
know
we
can
talk
offline,
but
no.
B
Exactly
they
don't
have
a
product,
yet
their
initial
target
was
for
the
55
and
over
three
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
single
family
home.
Now
keep
in
mind
this
is
this:
does
not
include
land
so
they're
only.
A
B
Again
very
vague,
but
they
they're
selling
it
as
a
customizable
floor
plan.
That
is,
let's
call
it
1500
2000
square
feet,
something
like
that.
Five
factors
have
already
broken
ground.
20
already
have
the
funds
allocated
or
raised
to
build
the
next
20.
and
it's
about
six
months
to
build
the
factory.
The
factory
is
like
a
40-acre
campus
with
initially
one
long
assembly
line
completely
net
zero.
B
They
say
that
they
have
the
only
they're.
They
have
exclusive
rights
to
graphene
solar
technology,
which
gives
them
a
energy
advantage
in
terms
of
production
and
storage
tesla.
They
alluded
to
some
partnership
with
tesla
for
wall
batteries
and
then
next
year.
Their
goal
is
to
do
920
million
in
investment,
institutional
investment
and
there's
there's
so
like
I
shouldn't
have
been
on
the
call.
The
call
was
for
investors
interested
in
20
million
dollar
stakes.
B
So
I
don't
know
how
I
got
on
that
list,
but
the
return
so
they're
they're,
basically
pitching
like
a
four
or
five
x,
return
on
20
million
dollars.
So
over
how
much
time,
five
years.
A
A
B
B
B
Yeah,
so
your
upscaling
label,
while
producing
a
product
using
existing
supply
chains
and
you're
selling
it
so
so
I
think
I
think
that,
even
if
they
achieve
everything
that
they
said,
they're
gonna
achieve
there's
still
a
market
for
specific,
specifically
affordable
housing
that
they're
not
really
addressing.
So
like
this
sh-1
model.
B
You
know
they
could
become
this
like
very
powerful
tesla-like
company
and
get
big
massive
contracts
with
san
francisco
and
all
cities
and
states
across
the
country
to
deliver
these
small
modular
tiny
homes,
but
that
still
wouldn't
solve
the
problem,
which
I
think
is
a
little
bit
more
fundamental
about
local
labor
markets.
B
B
B
And
so
so
like,
let's
say
they
do
that
and
then
you
come
along
and
say
we
can
build
something:
that's
not
as
fancy
but
performs
as
well
for
one-fifth
the
cost
and
we're
going
to
employ
a
bunch
of
people
in
the
area
and
we're
going
to
upskill
them
so
that
we're
not
going
to
require
them
to
have
contractor
licenses
or
experience
we're
going
to
train
them
while
we're
doing
them.
B
So
to
me
it's
kind
of
apples
and
oranges,
but
you
know
the
biggest
takeaway
really
is
that
people
are
putting
their
money
where
the
mouth
is
in
big
ways
specifically
to
disrupt
construction,
which
I
think
is
as
much
market
validation
as
you
would
need
on
a
national
level.
A
A
I
wonder
how,
if
you
look
at
the
outcomes,
because
that's
that's
still
something
we're
trying
to
clarify
like
who
are
we
serving
because
right
now,
it's
like
our
initial
goal
was
to
serve
the
poor
like,
but
it
the
practices?
It's
it's
not
not
exactly
that
it's
people
who
are
going
to
get
access
to
a
lower
cost
home.
B
B
A
Yeah,
it's
like
millennial
person
getting
into
this,
but
it's
like
you
know.
The
one
of
the
recognitions
was
that
well,
that's
not
necessary
like
okay,
that's
this
is
not
solving
the
really
underinvested
neighborhood
it
could
be.
But
it's
like
there's
a
step
to
that
step.
One
is
we
learn
how
to
build
housing
at
low
cost
step,
two,
the
providing
an
ample
supply
of
affordable
housing.
A
Will
impact
like
the
poverty
thing
that
the
the
ghetto
so-called
ghetto
thing?
But
it's
not
like
that
person
in
the
current
economy.
They
don't
have
the
money
to
do
this
right
now
right.
It's
the
people
who
don't
have
a
budget
like
that
problem
that
we
can
solve
a
little
later
once
we
get
going
and
then
we
can
cross
subsidize
and
things
like
that,
but
initially
we're
thinking.
Oh
yeah,
it's
like
that's
our
primary
audience.
Well,
how
do
you
make
a
scalable
business
case
with
people
that
have
no
money?
A
B
A
hundred
dollars
an
hour
or
starting
at
50,
working
around
100
an
hour
as
a
member
of
one
of
these
crews.
How
long
would
it
take
before
your
income
is
stable
enough,
where
you
can
get
a
loan
at
one-fifth,
the
cost
of
a
single
family?
Oh
I
mean
that
so
I
I
think
this
is
changing.
This
is
definitely
yeah.
A
Yeah
and
it's
so
it's
like
we're
solving
like
just
just
to
see
how
it
works.
It's
like
we're
solving
the
housing
thing,
but
it's
not
that
simple.
It's
like
you,
gotta
empower
people.
First.
This
is
kind
of
like
part
of
the
lessons
we
get
out
of
this
exact
generic
wholesale
empowerment.
Oh
yeah.
We
are
selling
housing
too.
B
Right-
and
I
I
did
want
to
mention
just
one
lingering
question-
I
don't
know
if
we
have
an
answer
now
is:
I
know
where
we
are,
and
I
know
where
we
want
to
go
with
the
apprenticeship.
What
I
haven't
figured
out
is
when
we
have
to
decide
if
we're
going,
to
do
small
investment
to
do
workshops,
to
build
tiny
homes
or
try
and
get
money
to
do
massive
investment
to
go
right
into
the
apprenticeship.
A
The
one
thought
is
that
that
investment
can
be
addressed
by
earned
revenue
if
bringing
a
remote
cruise
actually
works,
see
that
so
that
means
on
the
job
training
right
there,
one
two
weeks,
one
to
two
weeks
and
that's
how
we
deploy
the
first
one.
I
mean
I
don't
see
the
first
one
getting
done
outside
of
that
model.
Where
are
we
gonna
get
24
people.
A
A
With
adding
that
level
of
risk,
because
that's
another
risk
factor.
A
Yeah,
so
so
the
way,
I
guess
my
mental
model
right
now
and
metacognition
mental
models,
baby.
A
Only
I
mean
I'm
not
seeing
a
way
to
to
address
as
we
build
apprenticeship
to
get
those
people
so
that
we're
not
drawing
it
out.
To
this
I
mean
we
did
it.
This
year
we
drew
out
the
build
of
the
cdc
home
to
the
point
that
it's
not
done
today,
right,
we
couldn't
get
labor
and
people
in
apprenticeship
took
way
longer
than
we
thought
in
terms
of
schedules
in
general
right.
So
how
do
we
not
get
into
that
problem
next
year?
And
there
is
no
solution,
because
that
problem
is
very
real.
A
The
difficulty
of
the
work
yeah
and
just
labor
in
general
right,
so
this
is
labor
in
general.
Plus
construction
is
particularly
hard.
I'd,
say:
okay,
like
for
like
in
town
here
I
knocked
down
the
doors
to
actually
get
people
and
had
like
six
people
say.
Potentially,
yes,
one
showed
up
one
or
two,
I
think
one
and
never
saw
him
after
the
first
day
right,
so
so
that
that
issue,
so
so
investment
like
what
I
see.
What
I
could
see
is:
okay,
we
got
to
put
our
eggs
into
the
the
distributed
swarm.
A
B
A
So
if
we
succeeded
that
when
we
succeed
in
that,
don't
cannot
conceptualize
another
solution
right
now,
I
can
think
about
it
like
okay.
So
what
if
we
did
some.
A
Well,
I
mean
the
other
thing
is
yes,
you
can
go
all
out
and
get
funding
and
do
like
absolute
minimum
infrastructure
improvement
here,
actually
get
the
program
going
here
right
when
you
think
about
that.
It's
like
okay,
because
of
the
costs
involved
in
that.
Why
don't
we
just
take
it
right
to
the
field?
You
know
yeah.
B
A
B
A
B
We
were
thinking
about
the
apprenticeship
like
okay.
We
need
to
build
the
infrastructure
to
support
the
apprenticeship.
We
do
that
with
workshops.
Two
week,
courses
pay
to
play
that
simultaneously
give
you
revenue
while
building
the
parts
of
the
infrastructure
and
the
only
reason
we
tabled.
That
is
because
we
thought
getting
the
product
to
market
faster
was
more
important,
and
so
just
going
back
to
my
original
question
is:
there's
a
trade-off
here
of
your
time
and
resources
and
attention
right
now:
we're
focusing
on
getting
the
product
to
market
and
the
ultimate
goal.
B
As
far
as
I
understand
not
or
one
of
our
next
goals,
then,
is
the
apprenticeship,
but
do
you
still,
even
if
you
get
the
product
to
market
you're
still
left
with
a
gap
between
the
product
is
now
in
the
market
and
being
apprenticeship
ready,
because
there's
still
that
infrastructure
problem
and
if
you're,
if
you're
working
on
fueling
demand
for
the
cdc
home,
you
may
have
revenue
coming
in,
but
we
still
have
to
think
about
okay.
How
are
we
going
to
use
that
revenue
effectively
if
your
retirement
attention
is
selling
cd
goals.
A
A
If
we
have
built
some,
I
think
the
assumption
there
is
we've
shown
either
a
very
robust
model
already
or
the
indication
of
a
very
robust
model.
We
might
still
have
to
work
out
some
kinks,
but
that's
the
point
where
the
the
funding
would
be
easy
to
secure
and
we
can
say,
bam
we're
hitting
the
trigger
on
the
campus.
B
A
I
think
so
I
think
so,
and
then
that
still
leaves
the
question
prove
model
where
we
need
bodies
to
show
up
for
that,
but
that
I
think
that
we,
you
know
right
now,
as
we
go
to
finishing
yeah,
we
get
more
and
more
data
on
that
to
say
exactly
what
we
can
afford
and
actually
execute
that
without
losing
money.
Hopefully.
B
A
Yeah
actually,
actually
cash
flowing
that
learning,
so
we're
not
going
further
down
yeah.
A
Yeah,
no,
that's
good!
That's
good!
That's
good!
I
think
we're
we
got
the
plan,
I
mean
the
plan
we
came
up
with
where
I
think
we're
on
it.
For
me,
it's
like
to
keep
me
on
track.
B
A
Yeah
and-
and
in
my
as
I
you
know
in
the
mornings
with
clear
thoughts,
I
think
about
man.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
nail?
The
other
thing
we
haven't
nailed
is
open
source
product
development,
time
binding
or
what
I
call
economic
time
binding,
meaning
that
you
can
work
on
this
stuff
and
you
do
it
in
such
a
way
like
with
the
wikis
and
stuff
where
the
next
person
can
actually
build
upon
it
and
it's
building
to
a
very
concrete
product.
A
Like
that
part,
that's
an
unsolved
thing,
but
one
thing
at
a
time,
but
why
did
I
bring
it
up?
I
say
because
what
you
just
said:
okay,
give
them,
give
the
school
a
curriculum
well
or
projects.
A
Well,
yeah.
The
trick
to
that
is
quality
enough
enough
energy
and
focus
into
that,
but
that
energy
can
be
gotten
with
very
small
micro
contributions
if
people
understood
the
technique
and
where
it's
going,
and
so,
if
I
haven't
been
able
to
communicate
that
in
this
work,
to
actually
get
projects
that
are
just
you
know,
take
off
the
ground
and
actually
get
somewhere.
It's
that
barrier
is
still
there
in
terms
of
all
the
skill
set
and
the
rather
mindset
I'll,
say
mindset
or
the
mindset
necessary
to
get
to
that
kind
of
a
a
result
yeah.
B
A
B
Okay,
okay,
so
for
next
week,
logic
model
and
I'll
keep
working
on
the
construction
timeline.
A
Yeah
I'll
check
in
with
steve
like
on
some
quick
copy
to
like
okay,
this
just
really
captures
us
so
basically
taking
our
so
steve,
helped
generate
collaborative
design
for
transparent,
inclusive
economy
of
abundance.
As
a
vision
statement,
we
need
like
a
little
longer
one.
That's
still
super
tight,
but
right
on
to
like
what
we
do
for
purposes
like
this
application.
That
kind
of
clarity-
and
I
think
the
clarity
is
emerging
all
the
time-
yeah,
okay,
awesome.