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Yeah,
it
seems
you
know,
I've
been
reading
up
on
your
material
and
it
seems,
like
you,
have
a
pretty
refined
method.
I
can
switch
on
my
video
to
try
pretty
refined
method
of
doing
things,
and
you
know
Michael.
You
know
when
I
come
into
something
you
know
like
that
is
to
you
know,
get
a
feel
for
the
culture.
I
get
a
feel
for
what's
going
on,
and
you
know
I
like
to
do
my
best
to
adapt
to
you
know
a
system
that
seems
to
be
working
and
and
I'm,
not
just
seeing
like
a
nice
opportunity.
B
I
have
that
I
have
time
a
little
bit
and
and
I
also
believe
it
would
help
me
do
a
better
job.
You
know
just
you
know,
just
giving
in
it
and
in
helping
out
for
a
couple
weeks.
You
know
beforehand,
I
feel
like
it
allowed
me
to
just
you
know
slip
into
you
know.
You
know
the
systems
that
you
guys
use
quite
a
bit
so
in
internet.
B
When
I
was
going
to
school
at
Evergreen
up
in
up
in
Washington,
you
know
it
wasn't
an
online
or
musician
as
students
that
ever
been
free
particle
design.
You
know
it's
just
it
was
just
mostly
for
the
students
there
and
I
would
lead
tours
of
local.
You
know
ecological
design,
you
know,
entities
and
I.
You
know
created
a
librarian
inside
of
a
library
for
students
to
educate
themselves
and
and
then
we
also
had
a
everyone,
was
developing
a
home
similar
to
seek
at
at
in
Arcada.
B
You
know
Campus
Center
for
appropriate
technology,
and
so
we
started
integrating
with
them
quite
a
bit
and
so
I.
You
know
I
definitely
have
a
love
for
ecological
design
and
sustainability
and
then
and
then
we'll
Manik
started
that
you
know
we
were
already
working
together
on
projects
and
and
close
friends
by
then,
and
so
I
just
I
just
started
in
and
helped
with
long
with
the
technical
stuff.
B
You
know
he
was
working
on
developing
the
web
page
for
his
classmates
or
a
thread
of
students
and
and
so
I
just
I
just
came
in
started
working
out
details
while
making
the
wiki
better
and
and
also
preserving
the
data
so
I
sort
of
rolled
back.
Then
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
options
for
rebecky,
not
copying
data
backing
up
data
and
so
I
just
developed
a
sort
of
a
UNIX
based
system
of
the
next
base
system.
B
To
just
you
know,
back
up
the
data
regularly
and
make
sure
that
when
we
do
updates,
you
know
that
that
things
didn't
happen.
I
think
there's
one
chant
one
time
where
we
lost
a
big
chunk
of
data
at
the
beginning.
So
I
came
in
and
made
sure
that
you
know
data
preservation
was
there
and
then
yeah
and
then
it
sort
of
started
taking
off
and
I
got
busy
with
with
other
projects
in
school.
Things
like
that,
so
I
didn't.
B
Yeah
yeah
well,
I
was
I,
don't
know
how
its
evolved
since
then
you
know,
I
was
I,
got
pretty
intimately
familiar
with
the
pad
and
felt
pretty
comfortable.
You
know
updating
it
and
modifying
things
and
and
seven
things
up
for
you
know,
for
automation
and
developing
templates
and-
and
you
know
getting
familiar
with
all
the
different.
You
know
spaces
that
are
involved
that
you
know
some.
A
B
Semantic
wiki
I,
you
know
semantics,
I,
didn't
I,
studied
it
and
and
there's
more
on
a
personal
joy.
I
just
feel
like
that's
a
aspect
of
the
internet.
That
needs
to
happen
much
more
and
I'm.
It
sort
of
happened,
but
so
I
feel
like
it's
just.
It
still
needs
to
happen.
So
much
more.
You
know,
I
just
love
data
accessibility
and
classification
of
data
I.
Just
you
I
could
just
make
things
so
much
easier
if
it
was
more
more
wide
scale.
Yeah.
A
B
Know
I
do
have
a
love
for
semantic,
wiki
and
I'm.
Actually,
looking
for
my
own
project
work
I'm
looking
at
ways
to
incorporate
semantics
in
in
sort
of
a
different
paradigm,
you
know
I
I
think
thought
the
way
wiki's
done.
It
is
great
for
the
for
the
medium
but
I'd
love
to
explore
ways
to
I,
don't
know
ways
for
people
to
use
semantics,
and
you
know
you
know
all
the
material
that
they
produce
yeah.
You.
A
B
And
yeah
there's
them
have
the
CMS
platforms
that
are
open,
that
that
I'm
looking
at
right.
Now
that
look
really
intriguing
for
me
and
I.
You
know
I'm
not
really
sure
how
to
integrate
it
with.
You
know
your
own
file
system,
but
but
I'm,
but
I'm
just
sort
of
keeping
my
eye
on
it,
because
I
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
potential
there
and
just
a
lot
of
personal
interest
for
organization.
You.
B
B
B
B
Know
so
you've
learned,
salsa
and
blues,
or
something
like
that
and
and
you
get
together,
songs
playing
and
it's
an
exercise
in
connection,
and
you
really
try
to
feel
out
what
they
know
and
what
you
don't
try
to
find
the
middle
ground.
So
you
can
guess
together
and
there's
a
clear
lead
in
the
clear
follow
like
in
ballroom
dancing.
But
but
you
don't
necessarily
know
the
same
steps,
and
so
it's
sort
of
a
fun
experiment
and
really
really
beautiful
moments
come
out
of
it.
B
You
know,
as
we
had
insurance,
you
know,
with
her
business,
I
have
a
business
of
lying,
and,
and
so
we
would
literally
cycle
through
a
set
of
interns
every
summer,
and
so
our
development
field,
material
for
them
and
tasks
for
them
and
the
last
one
I
did
was
the
most
relevant
and
valuable
to
me
in
felt
most
like
teaching,
and
it
wasn't
really
teaching
them
their
advanced
students
and
I.
Just
I
just
made
their
I
sort
of
develop
their
trajectory
and
planned
the
three
months
they're
gonna
be
with
us
I.
B
B
You
know
I,
like
the
like,
embedding
a
certain
level
of
respect
for
everyone
involved.
You
know,
even
though
they're
learning
and
they're
new,
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
sort
of
a
multidisciplinary
exercise,
it's
important
to
maintain
them,
whoever
you're
working
with
they
might
bring
something
new
to
the
table.
Yeah.
C
B
Yeah
so
I
so
I
did
that,
and
that
was
great,
and
that
was
just
that
was
just
three
students
and
then
one
of
them
dropped
out,
Midway,
so
kind
of
just
inches
students.
So
it's
sort
of
an
intensive
two
student
thing,
while
I
was
doing
my
other
my
main
job.
So
that's
my
teaching,
and
so
you
know
that's
one
of
my
one
of
the
reasons
I'd
like
to
come
a
couple
weeks
at
a
time
and
just
get
a
feel
for
your
stuff,
I'm,
pretty
good
with
people.
B
As
far
as
like
teaching
I,
you
know,
I
got
a
report
for
my
students
after
they
were
a
little
intimidated
by
me
at
first,
you
know
and
they
I
think
they
ended
up
working
harder
because
of
it.
So
I
think
that's
good,
but
you
know
a
month
into
the
program.
They
realized
that
you
know
where
my
intentions
were.
You
know
I'm,
just
I'm
serious
about
getting
the
work
done
and
having
stuff
you
know,
having
stuff
work
and
having
them
accomplish
stuff.
So
I
think
it
was
good.
B
B
A
B
Meet
next
a
Tom
just
to
see
the
webpage,
that's
still
there
mm-hmm
Emme,
ET
and
EXI,
and
we
yeah.
We
helped
a
prototype.
That
was
a
working
prototype
and
we
ended
up
selling
almost
a
million
dollars
worth
of
that
product
and
and
it
got
into
a
bunch
of
net-zero
housing
in
california,
which
were
also
being
studied
by
some
NGOs
to
develop
energy
policies.
So
a
lot
of
her
data
has
been
used
to
influence
energy
policy
in
California,
which
in
turn
will
be
used
to
affect
the
energy
policy
across
the
u.s.
B
California's
sort
of
ahead
on
analyzing
that
stuff,
yeah
and
the
product
was
great
people
loved
it.
When
you
have
one,
you
know,
people
end
up
saving
about
10
percent
of
their
electricity
bill
and
it's
mostly
just
a
heads-up
display
that
we
made
as
beautiful
as
we
can
without
people
having
to
interpret
numbers.
You
know
nobody,
nobody
knows
what
kilowatt
hours
are
in
the
public
sector,
and
so
we
just
kid
it
through
color
and
light
pattern.
And
you
know
humans
have
a
great
pattern.
B
C
B
It's
great
ya
know
it's
it's
a
very
disappointing
to
me:
it's
it.
It
did
not
fail
because
we
had
lack
of
interest
or
lack
of
a
market
and
lack
of
sales.
We
had
a
CEO
that
just
wasn't
wasn't
very
good
and
she
never
found
funding
for
us,
and
so
we
just
a
runway,
just
ran
out
and
and
I'm,
not
necessarily
money
person
and
money's
not
really
interested
in
money
either.
So
it's
not
like.
We
want
to
stop
and
start
pursuing
investors,
and
so
we
just
kind
of
decided.
B
Let
it
go
I
think
you
really
pick
it
up
again.
An
investor
was
interested
in
found
us,
but
you
know
I
still
sort
of
you
know
as
it.
You
know,
as
I'm
sort
of
in
limbo.
Right
now,
you
know
part
of
me
thinks
well.
I
could
just
take
that
apart
again,
you
know
that
I'm
I'm
sort
of
excited
about
something
new
yeah.
B
Yeah
I
do
I,
you
know:
I
love,
I,
loved
lighting,
that's
one
of
the
areas
I
imagined
I
would
do.
I
would
do
it
as
as
my
retirement
career,
something
that
didn't
have
to
rely
on
because
that's
sort
of
an
artistic
realm
as
well
I
designed
chandeliers
in
New
York
for
several
years
arcsine,
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
my
fabrication,
you
know
knowledge
comes
from
and
and
I'd
really
like
to
develop
beautiful
lights
that
are
they're.
B
All
you
know,
LED
based,
you
know
and
I
know
that's
happening,
but
I
also
it's
sort
of
a
sort
of
an
artistic
Beauty
experience
for
me.
So
that's
one
idea,
but
I
think
that's
probably
in
the
future.
I
have
a
got
a
couple.
There's
a
couple
business
ideas
that
I
would
love
to
do.
That's
also
something
that
takes
funding
so
I'm
sort
of
just
slowly
working
on
those
and
maybe
maybe
I'll
get
lucky
and
meet.
Somebody
that's
interested,
and
one
of
those
is
in
a.
B
You
know
to
Metropolis
somewhere
I'm
looking
for
you
know
a
startup
or
a
company,
that's
doing
something
that
I
believe
in
you
know,
and
yeah
I
just
want
to
feel
engaged
with
other
people,
which
would
be,
which
would
be
really
nice
so
and
I'm,
not
really
sure
which,
which
specific
interest
you.
That
would
that
would
take
right
now
tell.
B
The
organizational
skills
is,
if
you
know,
if
I
were
to
create
a
company
around
it.
You
know
a
lot
of
us
based
on
you
know
the
transclusion
aspect
of
wiki.
You
know
that
wikis
introduced
transclusion
much
more
since,
since
when
I
was
messing
with
it
and
if
they're
you
from
one
of
Trance
collisions
pretty
much,
you
write,
you
do
the
work
once
yeah
one
looking
to
another
Latinos
say
you
have
a
page
section
and,
and
you
know,
you've
developed
it,
and
so
you
can.
Instead
of
you,
know
editing
in
multiple
places.
B
You
just
you
know
you
just
do
reference
to
that
section
and
and
build
new
documents
based
on
modular
data,
so
I'm
really
interested
in
the
modular
buildup
of
information,
and
you
know
that's
why
I
like
a
lot
of
what
you're
doing
you're
using
wiki
as
if
in
a
modular
way,
which
is
pretty
cool
and
yeah.
So
it's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
organization
for
me
is
managing
the
data,
so
you
can
communicate
to
your
different
either
either
your
clients,
new
employees,
investors,
you
know
whoever
you
have
to
communicate
with.
B
A
Section
yeah
it
is
there,
take
a
look
at
I'm
gonna.
Send
you
the
link
right
now
to
the
steam
camps,
but
right
the
thing
is
I,
don't
know
if
that's
related
to
data,
but
right
now
we're
trying
to
scale
these
basically
think
of
a
global
collaborative
effort
where
a
bunch
of
so-called
hackathons
or
these
steam
camps
so
open
source,
my
factory
steam
camps,
they
happen
at
the
same
time
we're
doing
real
product
development.
A
A
B
A
A
He's
a
notable
figure
in
the
hacker
space
movement,
but
we're
just
planning
just
started
to
plan
an
event
in
September
so
like,
ideally
it
it
may
merge
like
ten
or
twenty
hackerspaces
that
do
this
at
the
same
time.
So,
according
to
the
steam
camp
model,
yeah
we're
trying
to
scale
that,
but
but
the
whole
issue
there
is
it's:
that's
management
of
that
program,
so
we're
looking
for
somebody
mm-hmm!
B
B
A
Into
all
the
events
and
coordinate
them,
so
that
would
be
the
collaboration
incubator
position
in
that.
That's
that's
to
happen
in
this,
so
that
kind
of
an
event
lends
itself
to
a
lot
of
collaboration,
really
pushing
the
limits
of
how
we
can
make
for
effective
crowd
design.
That
might
be
interesting,
yeah.
B
Yeah
no
I
love
it
and,
and
it's
something
that
I'm
just
gonna
start
start
checking
out
and
looking
at
and
looking
at
the
structure
and
seeing
if
seeing
if
I
it
inspires.
Some
ideas-
and
you
know
already
I
feel
like
your.
Your
structure
is
pretty
amazing.
As
far
as
your
extreme
builds,
you
know
doing
things
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
You
know,
with
this
sort
of
like
a
hive,
sets
highest
tech
structure.
It's
really
inspiring
and
I'm
really
excited
to
get
a
feel
for
that.
B
You
know
you
know
just
being
able
to
crank
through
stuff
with
you
know,
when
you
have
the
knowledge
really
clear
and
and
then
this
the
skillset
division
and-
and
you
know
you
got
the
people
to
bit-
you
know
to
break
up
in
the
different
different
groups.
It's
just
kind
of
a
you
know,
stress,
becoming
very
exciting
to
watch
it
all
come
together.
B
So
yeah,
it's
really
exciting.
What
you're
doing
and
and
I'm
super
interested.
So
it's
not
something
I'll
just
start
I'll
just
start
checking
out
and
feeling
out
more.
You
know.
In
the
time
being
you
don't
start
reading
about
more
on
your
steam
projects
and
look
at
the
documentation,
and
you
know
if
I,
you
know,
if
I
develop
any
questions
about
how
things
are
running,
yeah.
A
B
B
B
Well,
the
thing
is:
I
haven't
documented
my
stuff
very
well,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
where
I
just
do
I
just
get
it
done
and
then
and
then
move
on
to
the
next
thing.
And
so
so
you
know
I
want
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
deeper
look,
so
I
can
present
it
well
and
but
yeah
organizing
for
portfolio-
and
you
know,
there's
a
few
projects
in
my
parametric
modeling.
B
They
don't
want
to
dive
in
and
it's
gonna
be
like
relearning
the
skills
cuz
I
thought
they
didn't
write
down
the
details
very
well.
No,
it
was
all
done
so
I
want
to
dive
in
because
it's
there
are
projects
that
are
worth.
You
know
preserving
and
presenting
so
I'm
gonna
be
working
on
that
a
little
bit
and
then
and
then
so
that's
for
the
next
month
and
then
and
I'm
gonna
be
in
Vietnam
for
the
next
month
and
then
after
that,
I'm
going
to
Sydney
Australia,
where
my
time
is
pretty
open.
B
I'm,
mostly
I
have
chosen
to
just
babysit
for
my
nephew,
my
sister
to
start
a
new
job
in
Sydney,
and
she
needs
some
help
watching
watching
her
son
and
it's
sort
of
an
opportunity
to
be
around
family
and
so
I.
You
know,
aside
from
watching
him
for
a
few
hours
in
the
evening.
I
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
time
in
Australia
right
now,
all
right.
C
B
A
B
1996
or
1995
I
switched
I
switched
a
PC
because
I
just
wanted
to
build
up
do
my
own
stuff,
and
then
you
know
now.
Apples
got
a
little
bit
better
about
that
stuff,
but
still
the
ecosystem
is
a
lot
more
free
with
the
PC
in
a
full
of
surprising
I
haven't
fully
dived
into
Linux,
but
most
of
my
design
software
requires
pcs,
so
I
stick
with
it.
B
Yeah
so
I
mean
that's
sort
of
the
fundamental
I'd
like
to
sort
of
have
control
over
my
stuff
and
so
I'm
always
looking
for
tools
for
things.
I
want
to
do
I
get
involved
in
a
lot
of
little
projects.
I
have
a
lot
of
interests,
and
so
anytime
I
have
a
new
interest
or
new
project.
I
I
sort
of
scan
scan
horizon
for
stuff.
B
That's
available
that
subs
freely
available
that
did
might
work
for
Romanians
and
so
I'm,
always
sort
of
just
testing
stuff
out
and
checking
it
and
evaluating
and
trying
to
find
tools
that
every
live.
Like
my
design
stuff
came,
you
know:
I
I,
graduated
I
got
a
degree
in
Applied,
Mathematics
and
I
really
wanted
to
stay
in
Arcadia
and
there's
nothing,
no
jobs
for
anything
like
that
there,
and
so
the
closest
thing
I
could
find
you
know,
was
to
modeling.
The
real
world
was
modeling
it
in
cab.
B
You
know
so
I
found
a
design
job,
you
know
working
cats,
so
in
my
mind
it
felt
similar
I'm
all
in
the
world.
You
know
dimension,
dimensionally
and
designing
for
it,
and
you
know,
wasn't
mathematically
intensive
but
to
me
I
sort
of
hit
the
same
place
in
my
brain
and
I
found
a
job.
I
didn't
know,
CAD
and
so
I
just
stayed
up
for
three
days:
learning
God
and
learned
enough
to
get
the
job
and
and
then
work
there
and
started
developing
systems
there
and
then
moved
to
another
company
in
town.
B
B
It
was
just
starting,
but
I
was
pushing
AutoCAD
to
the
max
moment.
You
know
as
far
as
I
was
just
I
was
designing
stuff
in
3d
and
on
cam,
which
is
a
total
mess
but
I,
but
I
think
it
just.
It
allowed
me
to
design
once
and
not
screw
up
as
much.
You
know,
I
could
just
fit
everything
together
so
much
better
in
3d
and
then
the
next
company
I
work
for
they
were
interested
in
it,
and
so
I
started
evaluating
some
3d
software.
B
That
was
specific
for
architectural
design,
stuff
and
I
wasn't
very
happy
with
it.
So
when
I
quit
I
quit
that
job
and
traveled
for
a
little
while
and
sort
of
assess
everything
on
the
phone
the
market
and
ended
up
settling
on
rhyno,
which
seemed
to
be
you
know
the
most
cost-effective
out
of
all,
but
also
really
powerful,
and
you
know
allowed
for
a
lot
of
creativity.
I
didn't
find
anything
open
source
for
a
very
long
time.
You
know
it
wasn't.
Till
free
cab
came
out
that
I,
you
know
was
you
know,
content.
You
know.
B
B
A
B
I
don't
have
tons,
but
I
have
so
much
cat
experience
that
that
I
understand
it
already.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
really
modeled
after
after
SolidWorks,
you
know
it's
it's
the
same.
In
SolidWorks
and
yeah
I
love
all
the
concepts
are
pretty
much
there,
so
I
don't
have
tons,
and
if
you
want,
if
you
want
me
to
have
more
I'll,
just
go
ahead
and
design
something
you
know
in
or
or
or
put
something
into
3d
for
you
sometime.
C
A
C
B
Yeah,
it's
true,
you
know,
I'm
learning,
a
new
dance
form
right
now
and
I'm
very
frustrated
because
I
like
I've,
so
much
experience
and
it's
very
humbling,
I'm
like
oh,
why
do
I,
Eliza
so
hard,
but
I
know
I'm
free
cab.
You
know
from
all
the
stuff
I've
done
a
freak
out,
it's
very
similar
to
SolidWorks
and
I've
continued
to
use
that
it's
a
different
parametric
design
than
I.
B
B
They
they're
one
of
the
most
expensive
cab
software's
and
they
force
you
to
upgrade
every
year,
which
is
four
to
five
thousand
dollars
to
see,
and
you
know
they
make
every
year
not
backwards
compatible
with
the
previous
years.
And
so,
if
you
want
to
be
relevant
in
the
industry,
you're
you're
forced
to
buy
new
software
every
single
year.
Well,
and
it's
just
kind
of
I
just
feel
like
it's
rude.
You
want
a
rack
kind
of
yeah.
C
B
B
Yeah
and
if
you
don't,
you
know-
and
you
start
getting,
you
know
stuff
from
a
client
or
something
like
that
or
working
with
another
company.
You
know
if
you
have
to
interact
with
anyone
else,
you're
screwed
and
you're
sort
of
forced
to
pay
that
money
and
I
mean.
Of
course
you
can
ask
the
new
people
like
hey.
C
B
Yeah
I
think
you
can
I
forget
I
actually
forget
now,
if
you
are
even
allowed
to
save
in
the
old
version,
you
can
open
up
new
versions
and
it
automatically
updates
it
to
the
new
version.
Next
time
you
say
that
no
you
can't
it
really
forces
you
up.
It's
very
frustrating!
You
can
export
in
lose
the
history
you
can
export
like.
B
B
B
B
B
You
know,
I,
you
know
depends
on
what
size
like
developing
products
and
gelling
ideas
and
making
them
real,
I.
Think
I'm
very
good
at
the
financial
side.
I've
never
really
wanted
to
pay
attention.
So
you
know
if
I
was
gonna
run
the
financial
side
of
it.
You
know
I
probably
want
to
collaborate
with
somebody.
You.
A
B
I'm
really
great
at
that
yeah
super
frugal
I
live
a
pretty
frugal
life,
I,
don't
like
to
live
in
excess
and
and
yeah,
and
so
all
my
projects
pretty
much
come
under
budget.
You
know,
like
I,
developed
an
electronic
project,
for
you
know
under
$200,000
it
was
marketable
and
we,
you
know,
solve
a
million
dollars
of
it.
You
know
you
know,
that's
including
you
know,
multiple
employees
and
development,
and
you
know
and
hiring
up.
You
know,
contractors
and
manufacturing,
and
you
know,
and
and
doing
a
pretty
good
timeline.
A
B
B
B
With
it,
I've
done
I've
done
it
to
troubleshoot
some
of
our
stuff.
You
know,
we've
got
a
circuit
board,
so
I'll
blow
them
up
and
and
navigate
them
for
troubleshooting.
You
know
we
had
a
couple
issues
in
manufacturing
a
couple
times
and
so
I
would
just
you
know,
learn
what
I
needed
to
learn
and
navigate
it,
but
but
but
I
would
not
plan
to
limit
proficiency
and
electronics
got
mm-hm.
A
B
Yes,
I
would
design
meteor
love
all
day.
I
would
do
all
the
industrial
design
I
did
a
hundred
percent
of
the
industrial
design
he's
thinking
of
it
he's
seen
together,
everything
finding
you
know
lowest
cost.
We
could.
You
know
which
is
off
the
shelf
at
the
time
before
doing
your
own
injection
molding
and
in
modifying
them
and
finding
ways
to
modify
them
in
a
cost-effective
manner,
and
then
you
know
designing
this
circuit.
You
know
the
search
board
shapes
you
know,
or
at
least
you
know,
providing
the
specs
for
those
and.
B
The
LEDs
aligned
and
getting
the
light
out
there
and
then
you
know
making
sure
there
was
enough
thermal.
You
know
space
for
you
know,
you
know
thermal
audience,
you
know
cooling,
you
know
things,
we
need
it
for
that
and
then
and
also
safety.
You
know
making
sure
the
safety
designs
were
in
there.
So
those
were
the
extent
and
then
and
then
for
the
electronics
is.
B
C
B
Of
just
didn't
want
to
do
it
he's
like
what
are
you
talking
about?
We
can't
see
faster
than
60
Hertz.
You
know
like.
Why
are
you
bothering
at
this
and-
and
it's
just
you
know,
sort
of
you
know
saying
it's
like
this
is
what
we
want.
You
know
it's
like
you
know,
here's,
here's,
what
I
see
and
I
so
I
could
show
him
the
tests.
You
know
it's
like
here's.
He
was
a
flicker
tests
and
you
know
so.
B
C
B
Past
60,
or
around
60
Hertz
I,
was
looking
for
something
that
was
was
gonna,
be
it
felt
more
analog.
You
know
like
having
an
analog.
Experience
was
important,
so
you
know,
even
though
they
weren't
didn't
want
to
do
it
and
didn't
didn't
believe
in
it.
I
know
it's
possible
and,
and
so
I
just
you
know
it's
like
I,
like
I
like
down,
you
know
the
requirements
and
said:
let's,
let's
really
make
this
happen.
You
know
this
is
support
to
us.
You
know
and
just
convinced
into
doing
this
you're
not
really
beautiful.
B
C
A
A
A
C
A
A
Develop
this
tool
head
okay,
so
everything
is
a
module
that
we
then
can
use
for
multiple
applications.
No
and
we're
gonna
continue
that
throughout
the
problem.
So
I
wanted
to
communicate
that
message
more
because
it's
like
when
you
hear
like
in
the
description
all
the
stuff
that
actually
is
gonna
go
on
on
there.
It's
like
unbelievable,
but
yeah.
A
lot
of
this
stuff
is
actually
okay.
Well,
we're
gonna.
Do
a
cnc
sawmill!
Well,
that's
a
tool
head,
that's
a
saw,
or
even
as
simple
as
a
circular
sword
head
on
the
CNC
gantry
in
three
dimensions.
A
You
know
things
like
that,
so
we
can
start
playing
with
a
lot
of
different
tool.
Heads
and
just
really
pushing
the
limits
of
module
based
design,
so
part
of
it
is
to
communicate
and
I
think
that
there
will
be
some
pretty
interesting,
compelling
material
that
we
send
out
there
and
our
publicity
but
yeah,
but
back
to
the
question,
do
you
think
that
you
can
attract
any
other
people
to
do
this?
Like
do
you
have
a
lot
of
contacts
and
I.
B
You
know
I'll
be
honest
and
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
I'm
great
for
that
I've
been
leveraged.
My
my
few
contacts
that
are
really
good.
You
know,
I've
got
I,
know
people
that
have
good
contacts
and
and
I'm
good
with
them,
and
so
I
could
I
could
leverage
to
their
means.
But
I
don't
have
a
personal,
huge
social
network,
I'm
a
little
more
introverted
that
way,
but
yeah
I
I
believe
so
I
wouldn't
be
relying
on
myself.
B
You
know
just
be
honest,
you
know:
do
you
know
that
specifically
get
a
large
no
work,
but
if
this
is
something
that
that
I'm
involved
in
you
know
I,
you
know,
Lonnie
has
an
amazing
network
and
then
there's
another
person
I
work
with
Mary
Mattingly.
Who
was
the
lot
of
the
the
visionary
for
the
water
pod
project?
You
know,
there's
that
I
have
big
people.
You
know
a
big
personalities
in
my
life
that
I
could
leverage
and
be
like
hey.
B
B
B
B
A
It's
really
like
a
Stewart
like
so
what
I'm
gonna
be
doing.
There
is
do
like
two
hours
in
the
morning.
One
is
teaching
about
collaborative
protocol
and
two
is
like
design
review,
so
that's
I'll
be
there
in
the
morning
and
then
at
night,
I'll
run
the
enterprise
session,
we'll
have
like
an
enterprise
track.
Where
we
talk
about
how
you
start
businesses
around
this
kind
of
work,
yeah.
B
A
A
Developing
yeah
I
mean
it's
all.
It's
a
big
experiment
because
we
haven't
ever
had
so
many
people
like
the
last
time.
We
did
it
in
2014.
We
hardly
had
any
other
kind
of
stuff.
We
do
the
way
we
do.
Things
now,
like
I,
think
we're
much
more
clear
about
how
we
do
things,
but
right
now,
so
we're
developing
that
for
more
and
more
people,
so
it'll
be
the
people
on
site,
but
also
during
the
first
few
days.
The
first
few
days
of
the
month
are
going
to
be
like,
like
a
mini
steam
camp,
to.
C
A
A
Come
up
just
for
the
month,
so
every
month
we
do
a
work.
Basically
a
steam
camp,
that's
also
open
to
the
outside
and
at
the
end
of
the
month
we
do
an
extreme
build
so
basically
culminating
all
the
modules
that
we
built
and
we
put
it
into
something
grand
like
Google
day
or
we
can
build
a
detractor
of
an
aquaponic
greenhouse
or
something
that,
according
to
the
schedule,
but
the
instructors
Rose
to
steward
the
process
and
make
sure
that
everyone
basically
follows
the
collaborate
like.
A
A
Let
me
go
to
that
so
I'm
taking
notes
at
gay
blog.
You
can
click
on
the
first,
so
here
here's
that
and
click
on
an
Aussie
collaboration
protocol,
but
what
the
instructors
do
is
steward.
That
process,
which
is
keeping
a
work.
Log,
organizing
looking
at
everybody
else's
work
log
on
a
team
page
using
a
basic.
C
A
Workflow
for
kicad
the
freecad.
What
we
do
is
upload
and
download
from
and
create
part
libraries
that
includes
visual
histories.
We
do
live
collaboration
and
embedded
Google
Docs
and
then
rapid
prototyping
using
you
can
read
above
the
second
Toyota
paradox
that
kind
of
describes
what
we
do
then
there's
whole
a
whole
bit
above
that
which
is
okay.
Well,
how
is
the
wiki
taxonomy?
What
does
that
look
like
so
during
development
templates
for
all
the
development
processes,
development,
steps
of
a
project
etc?
So
yeah
between
worklogs
freecad
and
this
constant
back-and-forth
logging
live
Docs.
A
So
the
the
teachers
instructors
are
guardians
of
the
collaborative
protocol
and
you're
in
it
you're
in
it
as
actually
create
a
creator
and
there's
people
in
the
in
the
in
a
crew
like
the
students
that
can
do
stuff,
they
can
teach
stuff
to
like
it's.
It's
all
about
sharing
and
collaborating
and
diffusion
like
when
you're
around
people
that
have
knowledge
by
diffusion.
A
You
also
learn
so
it's
a
very
diverse
environment
where
you
get
there's
many
skill
levels
and
this
Gil
sets
so
different,
yeah
two
dimensions
and
we
we
want
to
create
a
process
that
works
with
both
because
there
are
enough
roles
for
everybody
and
everyone
can
come
collaborate
if
you
have
the
proper
collaboration
architecture,
any
college
yeah,
all
the
different
roles,
so
you'd
be
the
steward
of
that
guiding
like
I,
mean
a
main
tool.
We
use
is
free
CAD.
So
that's
like
constant
uploading
and
you're
going
to
the
version
history
of
the
part,
libraries
right,
I'm.
B
Curious
how
you,
how
you
guys
balance
that
so
far
like
you
know,
you've
got
a
whole
bunch
of
speed.
People
with
many
different
skills
and
skill
sets
across
scene
areas,
and
it's
more
of
just
an
organic
process
where
you
know
I'm
assessing
you
know,
I'd
be
assessing
people's
skill
sets
and
be
like
okay,
you're
gonna
be
doing
this
and
this
and
this
or
is
it
more
of
like
you
know,
is
it
more
directive
or
is
it
something
that
you
know
you
first
request
volunteers,
do
you
have
a
process
for
like
assigning.
B
A
B
A
C
A
B
A
B
A
C
B
B
And
then
going
along
and
like
just
you
know,
keep
up
keeping
sort
of
a
on
on
the
moment.
You
know
awareness
of
each
person's
log
in
my
particular
team
and
just
seeing
how
that's
going
and
how
it
relates
to
lure
our
goals
and
so
I'm
imagining
some
of
that
just
happening
continually
throughout
the
day,
but
I'm
curious
about
how
you
see
that
sort
of
flow
as
steward
throughout
the
day.
Okay,.
A
B
C
A
B
A
Person
is
actually
doing
like
Bill
of
Materials.
Another
person
is
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
there's
a
ton
of
roles
and
that's
called
the
collaboration
architecture.
We
architected
right.
We
make
that
explicit
and
assign
roles,
but
we
know
that
there's
a
certain
number
of
steps
you
have
to
take
so
many
steps
you
take,
but
it's
like
read
the
article
in
that
page.
I
sent
you
on
the
second
time.
B
A
On
how
that
works,
but
basically
it's
all
about
all
kinds
of
prototypes
at
the
same
time.
So,
ideally
what
we
do
is
we
go
from
freecad
to
a
working,
3d,
printed
model
and
I'm
thinking
of
actually
adding
little
motors
little
electric
motors
and
battery
packs.
So
then,
before
we
build
the
tractor,
we
have
a
scale
model
on
our
table
running
on
electric
motors
yeah.
A
B
C
A
C
C
A
B
A
C
A
B
Yes,
actually
and
design
a
smooth
flow
for
that,
so
I'm
imagining
you
know
from
what
you're
saying
right
now
that
then
my
role
is
gonna,
be
sort
of
keeping
a
bird's
eye
view
on
all
each
of
those
each
of
those
systems
as
they're,
evolving
and
then
and
then
continually
just
checking
in
on
ones
that
are
dragging
behind
along
you
know,
just
check
in
with
people
see
how
they're
doing
and
encouraging
the
flow
forward.
So
it
sounds
like
I'm
sort
of
a
project
for
this
system
that
we're
developing
yeah.
A
A
B
C
B
A
C
B
C
A
A
Know
he's
done
his
prototype
of
the
the
welder
thing,
but
I
mean
that's,
not
gonna
be
practical.
It's
a
small
prototype
for
us.
It's
like
okay,
now
pay
attention
to
make
sure
the
spatter
doesn't
get
on
an
axis,
make
it
a
large
machine
to
build
real
parts
and
something
that's
actually
functional
and
easy
to
build.
A
Yeah
now,
for
example,
I
mean
the
start
of
a
of
a
project
could
be
okay,
so
we've
got.
We
want
to
design
as
well
I'll
come
in
there
and
say:
hey.
We
want
to
do
a
trencher
or
something
right.
We
want
to
do
the
aquaponics.
Let's
say:
will
we
start
with
requesting
the
standard
process
requirements?
What
do
we?
What
do
we
need
in
there
there's
stuff
that
we
know
already,
there's
stuff,
that
we've
done,
that
we
can
build
upon?
So
you
always
go
back
into
industry
standards.
You
build
upon
it.
You
use
the
knowledge
that.
A
Yeah
and
we
can
start
okay.
So
how
do
we
so
say
we're
clear
on
the
modules
that
have
to
be
developed
like
we
can
prioritize
it?
Then
we
say:
okay,
let's
start
developing,
so
we
might
drop
some
concept
docs
on
on
a
google
doc,
then
go
into
the
ad
and
then
go
into
prototyping.
But
all
these
things
like
once
we
get
into
the
flow
of
something
like
all
that
can
be
done,
iteratively
in
the
rapid
time
scale.
A
B
A
B
Love
to
just
hear
your
take
and
see
if
you
have
any
additions,
you
know
I
just
you
know,
I'm
working
on
my
perceptions
of
what
you
know,
but
I.
Imagine
this
role
to
be
and,
and
so
I
put
up
deduce.
You
know,
I
mentioned
email,
three
primary
components
to
enforcing
process.
You
know
to
being
a
steward
and,
and
so,
as
you
know,
you
know,
there's
a
large
part
of
that
job.
That's
technical!
B
You
need
to
understand
all
the
different
components,
so
you
can
actually
interact
with
people
and
instruct
wisely,
but
the
other
side
of
the
job
is
interpersonal.
One
and
I
think
these
sort
of
close
ones,
or
at
least
some
of
them
do,
and
one
of
them
is
just
sort
of
like
a
sort
of
deduce.
The
ideas,
empathy
with
a
tactic
or
encouragement
that
you're
really
trying
to
like.
You
know
if
I
understand
where
the
person's
come
from
understand
what
they
know
and
encourage
them
to
take
on
projects
that
are
suitable
for
them.
B
You
know,
challenges,
that's
sort
of
one
area
that
my
role
would
be
and
another
one
is.
You
know
just
really
being
personally
available
like
we're
in
there
at
the
collaboration
you
know.
I
have
a
course
I
feel
everything
everything
that's
going
on
anytime,
there's
an
issue
like
I.
Imagine
they're
coming
to
me.
First,
you
know
it's
like
just
like
here's.
You
know
deal
with
questions
and
you
know
you
know
deal
with
guidance.
B
B
B
B
A
B
Yes,
yeah
I
feel
like
I'm
excellent
with
empathy.
You
know
I'm,
you
know
I'm
pretty
I'm
hard.
You
know,
like
you,
know,
I'm
I'm,
technical
and
I
try
to
be
accurate,
but
but
I
feel
like
I'm.
Pretty
good
I
feel
like
I'm,
really
good,
with
empathy,
just
understanding
where
people
are
coming
from
being
sensitive
to
their
being
challenged
or
pushed
push
too
far
or
push
hard
and
recognizing
that
and
in
bringing
it
needed
and
really
focusing
on
what
they
can
do.
B
I
feel
like
I'm,
pretty
aware
of
people's
emotional
states
in
sort
of
a
vast
building
environment.
Some
of
that
requires
me
not
taking
as
much
you
know.
My
tendency
is
to
really
dive
in
and
really
work
on
stuff,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
would
be
focusing
on
a
little
bit
for
myself
is
you
know,
I
would
want
to
be
diving
in
a
lot
more
than
normal,
but
I
have
to
really
consider
my
job.
B
Managing
the
group
has
one
of
the
main
things
I'm
working
on
you
know
I
may
be
taking
on
was
like
okay,
let's,
let's
start
hacking,
these
hacking.
These
are
calm.
These
raspberry
PI's
are
doing
us
to
you
know
to
be
these
movements
that
we
watch.
You
know
whatever
like
I
love
that
stuff,
but
you
know
maintaining
the
priority
of
energy.
The
people
is
gonna,
be
my
role,
even
though
I
might
be
jumping
into
other
stuff
and
awesome
court
fermitas.
B
B
On
my
own,
I
really
stopped
and
you
know
take
time
to
see
where
people
are
at
and
I
think
or
in
that
process.
Is
you
know
keeping
on
top
of
everyone's
logs?
You
know,
you
know
if
I'm,
on
top
of
everyone's
logs
and
looking
at
what
people
are
producing
and
then
going
to
the
teams
and
checking
in
with
them,
I
think
that
part's
pretty
easy.
B
You
know
it's
like
as
long
as
F
there,
yeah
I
feel
like
I'm,
pretty
good
with
with
empathy
keeping
people
going
yeah
and
you
know
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
it.
A
lot
of
it
is
you
know
what
the
intention
is
behind
it,
like
you
know,
in
the
intention.
For
me,
it's
like
we're
we're
developing
something
together.
You
know,
that's
not
necessarily
us
individuals,
we
all
have
something
that
we
can
bring
a
really
like.
B
A
No,
no,
that
the
screen
was
messed
up,
so
I
jumped
to
a
different
screen.
Okay,
yeah!
Would
you
would
you
be
like?
Are
you
saying
that
it
might
be
too
stressful
for
you
to
manage,
like
the
empathy
level
or
like
if
you
had
to
do
like
that
part
like
a
community
manager?
You
wouldn't
like
that
role,
but
you
would
like
more
of
a
technical,
I
qui
said,
or
would
you
be
open
to
also
being
a
community
manager?
No.
B
B
B
Know
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
different
areas
that
I
can
no
apply
and
help
share
with
other
people.
Doing
that
you
know.
So
that's
that's
a
work
style
that
I
really
like
and
and
and
it's
also
something
that
can
contribute
to
this
role,
but
it's
also
something
that
I
will
have
I
wouldn't
keep
in
check,
because
because,
when
I'm
in
that
role,
I
get
into
I,
you
know
I
get
into
a
very
programmatic
mindset
which
for
me,
isn't
the
same
as
being
an
empathic.
B
You
know
if
I
spend
all
day
at
my
computer
I'm
used
to
action
reaction,
knowing
that
I
can
fix
something
and
just
press
a
button
and
have
it
happen
you
know-
and
so
you
know
I've
noticed
in
my
past
when
I
spend
all
day
working
on.
You
know,
programming
issue,
then
all
of
a
sudden
go
out
in
the
world
and
talk
to
people
I'm,
like
you,
know,
I'm
much
more
cursed
and
so
something
I'm
aware
of
for
myself.
You
know
it's
like
switching
gears
to
human
interaction.
B
Is
there
is
a
it's
sort
of
a
different
gear
box
than
that
in
computer
interaction,
or
you
know,
technical,
problem-solving,
interaction
and
and
so
I?
You
know,
I
think
I
I
recognize
those
differences
and
can
identify
them
and
I.
Think
that's
good
and
I
also
think
there's
a
benefit
to
the
focus.
Work.
I
do
good
work
in
that
state,
but
it's
something
that
I
just
you
know
we'll
check
on
on
myself,
make
sure
I
don't
dive
too
much
into
my
articular
module.
B
A
B
B
A
A
Machines
like
the
ideas
that
we'll
start
with
the
simple
printer
we're
gonna
go
into
like
so
like
eight
millimeter
rods
like
on
a
small
printer,
we
make
larger
machines
with
1-inch
rods,
and
then
we
go
to
two
inch
rods
and
then
we
go
then
to
three
inch
rods.
I
mean
very
heavy-duty
axis
that
we
should
get
it
like
we'll
be
getting
into
the
3-inch
stuff.
A
lot
in.
A
B
B
Immediately
one
of
my
one
of
my
strengths
that
I
feel
like
I
could
contribute
to
that
as
I
love
testing
equipment.
You
know
for
a
specific
task.
You
know
whenever
I'm
doing
you
know
laser
cutting,
you
know,
for
example,
you
know
I,
you
know
I
get
to
know
the
Machine.
You
know
I
figure
out.
What's
what
it's
capable
with
with
the
particular
materials
I'm
working
with
and
so
I
I
really
enjoy
designing
sets
of
tests
that
allow
you
to
you
know
to
cut
your
projects
better.
You
know
it's
like
it's
really
nice
to
know.
B
It's
like.
Okay,
we
can
a
very
intensity
or
PWM
yeah
and,
like
you
know,
what
produces
the
best
results
for
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
in
and
what
are
the
boundaries
for
those
and
so
I
really
enjoy.
You
know
devising
tests
that
help
people
understand
that
and-
and
so
many
people
just
skip
those
and
just
try
to
like
just
just
cut
it
and
and
often
get
really
crappy
results,
and
so
yeah
I
think
I
think
it's
a
really
valuable
thing
to
to
do
and
then
document.
So
you
know
for
the
people.
Let's
get
to
it.
B
You
have
that,
and
so
that's
something
that
I
feel
like
I
can
bring
like
I
enjoy
that
process
immensely.
You
know
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
find
the
limits
and
what
you
can
do,
and
also
in
that
you
know
when
you're
working
with
the
edges
of
what
what
what
the
capabilities
are,
what
the
precautions
are
like.
Okay,
you're
gonna
burn
off
the
motor.
B
You
know
what
I
can
be.
I
can
be
somewhat
flexible
about
that.
You
know,
like
you
know,
I
I'm
super
excited
about
your
process
and
jumping
in
and
I'd
be
stoked
on.
You
know
my
three
I
feel
like
I
could
contribute
a
lot
two
months
to
as
well
and
but
I
I'd
be
open
to
being
flexible
or
not
depending
on.
If
we
get
enough
students
mm-hmm.
B
I
because
my
my
time
is
a
little
bit
flexible
right
now,
so
you
know
I
might
have
to
just
adjust
a
couple
things.
You
know
you
know,
there's
call
things
in
California
will
be
in
California
by
then,
but
but
yeah
I'm
open
to
being
someone
flexible.
At
least
you
know
at
least
earlier
on,
like
as
the
time
comes
near,
we
might
have
to
just
decide.
Okay,
you're,
not
gonna
come
and
we
don't
have
or
or
we
got
the
students.
Let's
do
this.
B
C
C
A
B
Yeah,
it's
really
nice
to
collect
that
and
have
it
organized
and
ready
for
analysis,
and
you
know
that
some
of
those
data
analysis-
some
of
that
is
just
you
know
or
I-
don't
like
using
or
grants
like
less
our
experience
with
this
you
know
and
yeah
and
recording
that's
really
important
as
well.
You
know
yeah
what
you
know.
You
know
I
think
I
feel
you
know.
If
you
understand
your
materials
I
think
a
feeling
is
really
important,
be
like
you
know,
it
just
seems
like
I'm
pushing
this
a
little
bit
more
hard.
B
C
A
C
A
B
It's
pretty
fun,
I
mean
it's
an
essential
component
of
engineering.
You
know
yeah
of
the
engineering
you
can
always
just
over
build
stuff,
and
it's
nice
to
have
an
idea
about
like
where
things
are
pretty
in.
Like
you
know,
I,
you
know,
I
can't
Clint
immune
expert
was
something
I
really
enjoy.
You
know
it's
really
cool
to
find.
You
know
find
areas.
It's
like.
Oh,
you
know
we
could
be
using
it
in
iran
or
whatever.
You
know.
This
motor
is
overpowered
for
this
particular
position.
We
could
save
a
little
money
here.
It's.
B
B
You
know
which
you're
important
you
know
when
we're
switching
in
and
some
of
those
are
essential.
Like
you
know,
some
of
those
you
have
to
write
in
big
red
letters
be
like.
Are
you
switching
to
wood
for
this
cutter
like
these?
Are
the
settings
you
have
to
change?
You
know
yeah,
that's
what
you
need
to
do.
Yeah
stuff.
B
B
C
B
A
A
C
A
To
okay:
let's
have
a
larger
group
process
where
we
take
the
same
project
and
do
a
larger
group
process
on
it.
So
it
really
depends
but
I'm
open
to
suggestions
on
it
right
now.
I
was
thinking
because
I
mean
some
days
are
cut
out
already,
like
okay,
the
first
four
days
we're
building
our
printers
and
other
machines
like
the
first
four
days,
and
then
we
say:
okay,
what
are
we
doing
right
now?
Well,
I,
guess
for
the
filament
maker.
A
It
makes
sense
that
everyone
does
that
we
don't
want
to
like
spread
one
group
to
like
the
next
project,
which
is
like
say
the
high-temperature
enclosure
or
whatever
right
nail
out,
because,
for
example,
the
filament
making
is
so
fundamental
to
what
we
want
to
do.
We
won't
just
crank
out
common
throughout
the
whole
process
like
see
if
we
can
actually
make
commercial-grade
filament,
but
after
three
months.
A
C
A
Idea
of
more
kind
of
the
more
the
merrier
because
you'll
see
that,
because
any
development
step
and
like
you
break
down
a
thing,
and
it's
like
12
modules
already
and
and
36
people
are
not
going
to
be
enough
to
do
all
the
steps
there
anyway.
So
I'd
prefer
to
do
more
more
people
on
the
same
project,
because
actually,
like
even
like
12
select,
sounds
a
lot.
The
way
we
can
break
things
down.
That
gets
to
be
a
lean
process
very
quickly.
In
other
words,
it's
like
you
can
only
do
so
much
even
with
12
people.
A
B
A
So
probably
more
like
swarm
throughout
and
we
want
to
keep
it
as
interesting
as
possible
for
people
and
I
think
I
think
we
can
so
we'll
be
mixing
the
rapid
prototyping
throughout
so
I
think
with
the
kind
of
collaboration
ecology
where
we're
doing
with
between
design
concept.
Prototyping
testing,
I,
don't
know,
I
think.
C
A
B
To
the
number
so
I
have
the
coordinator
or
the
supports
are
gonna,
be
wanting
to
sort
of
regularly
check
in
with
each
other,
it's
probably
somewhere
in
your
protocols
and
just
be
like
just
really
evaluate
like
how
did
this
go?
How
can
we
prove
it
like
literally,
it
should
really
be
combining
groups
more
or
separate.
You
know
more
and
in.
B
A
Yeah
and
what
kind
of
like
evolve
the
process
but,
like
my
role
in
the
morning,
is
gonna,
be
okay,
product
review
process,
review
like
okay,
how's,
everything,
working
and
check-in
and
evolving,
because
my
goal
is
to
stay
out
of
there
out
of
the
weeds
as
much
as
possible.
So
I
have
the
biggest
like
you
guys,
come
in
okay,
here's
your
logs
I
can
check
the
stuff.
We
have
basically
product
demos
every
morning
or
whatever,
like
the
stand-up
scrum
stand-up,
whatever,
but
I'm
kind
of
from
the
higher
view.
Saying.
C
A
That
kind
of
insight,
and
both
on
a
product
and
on
a
process
and
team
site,
because
it's
all
it's
all
in
there,
it's
all
related,
so
I'll
give
feedback
on
that,
and
then
it's,
but
it's
all
collaborative
we're
all
we're
all
in
it
together.
That's
the
kind
of
D
like
I,
don't
want
to
be
standing
out
as
like.
Oh
yeah
I'm
like
running
this
thing,
because
that
that
wouldn't
work
like
no.
A
B
Curious,
if
there's
like,
there's
a
set
of
questions
that
will
evolve
yeah
that
will
they
will.
You
know
evident
that
each
of
the
sort
of
the
stages
of
organization
that
are
really
essential
to
just
ask
you
know
that,
like
every
day,
there's
like
just
a
fundamental
set
of
questions,
just
get
the
conversation
going,
but
also
that
are
essential
to
answer
like
you
know
some
of
these
questions
at
your
level
or
super
important,
but
they
probably
translate
to
a
different
set
of
questions.
As
we
hear.
C
B
Just
help
guide
those
processes.
You
know
each
of
those
collaboration
of
moments
where
you
get
together
and
talk
about
the
process
and
what's
you
know
where
we
are
now
and
where
we
are
in
the
future?
You
know
where
we
want
to
go
it
you're
like
what?
What
is
the
appropriate
set
of
questions
to
ask
for
that
moment?
You
know
in
the
in
the
line
phase
I'm
really
I'm,
particularly
interested
in
in
differentiating
those
throughout
the
different
phases
and
the
different
roles
in
the
organization
yeah.
A
That's
good
and
we're
practicing
for
a
larger
process,
because
this
we
haven't
seen
anything
yet
so
we're
building
that,
for
example,
with
incentive
challenge
like
for
one.
This
is
practice
for
a
much
larger
challenge
where
now
we're
doing
deliberate
development
with
36
people,
but
in
a
challenge
it's
likely.
It's
gonna,
be
2,000
people
so
really.
A
Sure
wiki
is
ready
and
stuff
like
that,
but
once
we
spawned
incentive
challenge
so
part
of
it
during
the
summer,
I'll
be
probably
doing
half
the
time
on
preparing
that
as
well
on
the
cordless
drill.
But
when
we
launch
that
there's
gonna
be
the
people
from
the
steam
camps
from
the
summer,
they're
all
capable
of
already
understanding
the
development
process,
but
we're
gonna
kick
it
off
with
that,
as
I
mentioned,
with
Mitch
Altman,
10
or
20
events.
A
C
B
B
A
A
B
A
Let
you
know
my
thoughts
like
in
the
next
few
days,
so
we
we
really
have
to
publish
like
the
final,
so
that's
kind
of
like
maybe
go
back
and
forth
a
little
bit,
but
I
want
to
publish
basically
like
this.
The
final
announcement,
the
clarity
on
how
this
is
gonna
work
and
all
the
updated
instructors.
By
about
like
in
about
a
week
or
before.