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C
B
B
To
paradise,
you'd,
never
think
this
would
look
like
this,
so
it's
permanently
under
construction
for
probably
for
the
next
five
years,
I'm
marching
the
founder
of
source
ecology
been
added
on
this
plot
plot
right
here
since
2006,
so
just
for
perspective,
we
build
all
the
infrastructure
here.
The
this
was
an
empty
soybean
field.
When
we
started
we
built
this.
This
house.
A
A
B
E
F
Hey
marchand,
while
we're
doing
av
stuff,
I
think
we're
looking
at
the
wrong
screen.
Also.
B
Let's
try
it
again,
so
what
I
did
want
to
start
with
is
actually
introductions
brief
introduction,
but
as
far
as
the
workflow
that
comes
today
in
this
progress
is
the
first
day
of
the
summer
x
program,
the
next
three
months,
it's
literally
back-to-back,
builds
all
kinds
of
things.
Some
people
are
saying
about,
nine
people
are
gonna,
be
staying
for
the
whole
time
very
whole
time.
Most
people
are
leaving
after
the
first
month.
The
first
one
is
kind
of
busy.
So
but
yeah
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
exciting
builds.
G
A
B
Before,
like
the
house,
I
mean
we
should
have
a
really
good
workflow
on
that
building,
larger
and
more
interesting
3d
printers
next
iterations
of
the
tractor
aquaponic
green
has
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
stuff
coming
up.
So
I
really
look
forward
to
a
lot
of
the
experimentation,
but
I
do
want
to
invite
you
to
the
idea.
This
is
all
collaborative,
it's
open
source,
absolutely
open
source
collaborative,
and
it's
really
the
people
that
come
here
both
on
site
and
remote.
B
I
mean
that's,
who
makes
it
happen
and
what
happens
in
this
event
is
up
to
us
it's.
So
what
I'll
try
to
do
is
share
as
much
as
I
know
about
what
we
have
learned
today
about
collaborative
development,
how
you
do
large
collaborative
efforts
for
both
on
a
design
front
and
on
a
build
front.
B
So
we've
learned
a
lot
about
that
through
through
history
I'll,
do
like
a
little
bigger
presentation
on
osce,
just
just
a
little
while,
but
let's
maybe,
let's
share
just
as
an
intro
who
we
are,
what
our
main
goals
are
for
the
time
we're
here.
So
my
main
goal
is
to
get
this
cd
cajon
to
product
release,
to
something
that
we
can
build
for
customers
readily
a
thousand
square
feet
hundred
thousand
dollars
as
a
turnkey
build
package
that
we
provide
to
people
now.
B
Have
to
be
lean
and
efficient
efficient,
so
part
of
it
is
really
making
the
design
super
effective,
very
easy
to
build
so
that
you
can
see
like
what
is
this
possible
for
you
to
do.
I
want
to
know
here,
like
in
over
the
last
two
months,
we've
been
building
the
version
two
now
we're
on
three
we're
actually
changing
some
things,
making
it
even
easier
because
we
learned
we
have
a
lot
of
people
in
the
internship
were
pretty
much
novice
and
that
that
taught
us
further
that
man,
okay,
we
need
to
simplify
even.
H
B
Make
it
more
effective
just
conceptually
simpler,
and
we
are
doing
all
that,
so
I
want
to
really
see
how
we
can
get
that
to
so.
B
Deliver
on
a
promise,
it's
promise
right
now
is
500
hours
for
a
house.
B
So
what's
that
mean
well
if
it's
50k,
it's
50k
materials,
the
model
that
we're
looking
at
right
now
is:
if
we
sell
these,
then
osc
operations
we
get
like
25k
out
of
that
and
we
can
pay
about
25k
in
labor,
something
to
that
effect,
that's
kind
of
like
the
general
revenue
model
figure,
but
at
500
hours
for
25k
50
bucks
an
hour
I
mean
that's
our
goal
for
what
we
can
definitely
do,
and
if
you
do
management,
if
you
become
an
entrepreneur
doing
this
I
mean
you
can
make
more
or
you
can
be
just
a
builder,
but
it
does
require
some
skill
to
do
that,
like
if
you're
going
to
get
to
that
50
level.
B
So
I
really
look
forward
to
what
we
can
do
just
probably
learn
more
more
than
anyone
else
here,
because
I
really
suck
things
up
and
today
we're
going
to
get
right
in
right
in
there.
So
at
10
we
actually
have
a
concrete
truck
coming,
so
we're
going
to
cut
out
at
9
30
to
get
ready.
Okay,
so
brief,
introduction
I'll
do
a
brief
intro
on
osc,
so
yeah,
let's
go
around
see
who
we've
got
here?
Take
some.
E
Notes,
yeah,
I'm
maddie
from
minneapolis.
I've
been
doing
a
civil
engineering
here
for
a
few
years
and
just
kind
of
got
burnt
out
and
was
looking
to
do
something
else
and
so
try
to
come
down
here
and
let's
go.
E
I
guess
you
see
the
promises
or
whatnot
largely,
I
guess,
just
kind
of
get
out
of
the
office
get
a
little
more
physicality
again.
I've
been
kind
of
doing
a
whole
lot
of
nothing
here
for
a
few
years
and
be
nice
to
to
not
just
be
an
office
person
for
a
second.
I
I'm
voting
for
your
rap
as
iowa,
so
my
goals
are
kind
of
twofold.
I've
been
following
ost
for
a
while
and
I'd
like
to
contribute,
and
it's
a
little
bit
hard
without
seeing
things,
at
least
for
me
in
the
in
person,
and
so
I
think,
having
seen
eco
home
will
help
me
visualize
things
a
little
bit
better.
So.
I
C
F
E
L
My
name
is
joseph
I'm,
a
music
teacher
in
portland
oregon,
I'm
currently
interested
in
hopefully
building
a
house
on
my
own.
At
some
point,
I've
been
following
the
oc
for
some
years
just
on
the
internet
and
my
wife
demanded
that
I
come
and
see
if
the
houses
could
be
fashionable.
B
C
My
name
is
anthony,
I'm
a.
I
manage
a
cyber
security
team
out
of
well
the
cyber
team's
out
of
chicago,
but
I'm
in
ohio.
Now
do
you
want.
B
A
C
Oh
yeah,
so
I'll
just
do
this
real
quick,
so
I
managed
to
cyber
security
team.
Basically,
after
george
floyd
and
covid,
I
was
working
and
it
just
didn't
seem
to
make
sense
the
type
of
work
I
was
doing
kind
of
like
you
know,
I
need
to
actually
learn
how
to
build
something,
to
provide
a
different
type
of
value
for
working
people
from
where
I'm
from
so
open
source
is
the
the
future
decentralized
open
source
is
the
future.
C
I
know
that
in
my
field-
and
you
guys
can
probably
see
it
coming
in
different
pipes
done
in
your
own
areas,
so
this
is
about
banging
on
the
banging
on
the
wheels
and
figuring
out.
I
actually
don't
have
any
experience
with
houses
since
I
started
last
year
and
then
I
bought
two
renovated
them
and
I'm
gonna
build
one
from
scratch
to
see.
C
If
how
good
I
am
at
that-
and
you
know
what
it
actually
requires
before
I
start,
you
know
planning
on
starting
a
business
and
then
I'm
going
to
start
a
business,
that's
going
to
do
replica
replicable
homes
in
some
type
of
fashion,
with
a
a
method
of
automation
in
a
in
a
factory
as
well
as
a
component,
that's
built
on
site,
how
those
two
flow,
I'm
I'm
just
kind
of
looking
forward
to
figuring
it
out.
C
It
absolutely
will
the
the
company
is
called
victory
homes.
I
just
finally
got
the
domain
just
a
week
ago,
so
I
now
own
victory
homes
and
victory
homes
limited
as
well
as
I've
got
a
lawyer
working
on
whatever
I
have
to
do
to
make
sure
people
can't
use
the
name
and
then
so.
That's
that's
the
basic
premise.
The
basic
premise
is
a
victory
home
like
a
victory
garden.
C
When
we,
the
last
time
we
were
in
the
great
depression,
victory
gardens
were
a
way
that
we
could
do
it
on
our
own,
so
the
the
hope
is
to,
in
a
new
era,
inspire
that
same
type
of
vision
of
doing
it
yourself-
and
I
know
open
source-
is
the
the
path
to
that.
It's
just
about
us
all,
getting
together
and
figuring
out
the
best
way
to
do
it
mm-hmm.
So.
G
Is
eric
background's
in
software
development,
a
bit
of
south
street
as
well
so
this
past
year
I
have
newly
freelanced
software
dev
and
that
contract
wrapped
up
from
where
I
currently,
I
wrapped
it
up,
because
I
was
interested
in
open
source
ecology,
so
yeah
really
excited
to
be
here.
My
goals,
I'd
say
first
and
foremost,
is
to
meet
interesting
people.
So
far
that
bill's
been
going
well
and
then
additionally
contribute.
G
I
think
that
that's
also
high
up
there
in
the
sense
that
I
definitely
definitely
see
the
open
source
model
of
it
is
what
you
make
it.
So
hardware
can
be
useful.
You
know,
I
always
let
me
know
especially
10,
more
questions,
software
stuff
people
running
by
me,
I'm
not
kind
of
looking
at
it,
pivoting
away
from
the
software
down
specifically
or
looking
at
other
careers,
maybe
tangential
to-
or
even
you
know,
completely
different
from
computer
science,
and
so
I
think,
open
source.
G
J
K
Hi
I'm
evan.
I
live
in
austin
texas
these
days
and
I'm
working
software
for
a
long
time.
I
used
to
do
framing
as
a
younger,
stronger
guy,
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
doing
some
more
building
and
seeing
how
this
compares
to
what
you
come
on
to
on
a
normal
job
site
and
how
that.
K
Close
to
falling
down
house
in
portland
oregon
and
now
I
have
a
family
and
I'm
thinking
about.
Maybe
it's
time
to
take
that
down,
put
something
else
better
in
place,
and
maybe
this
house
will
be
it
so
we
can
both
find
out
whether
it's
fashionable
it'll
work
for
lives.
M
M
A
Yes,
the
road.
G
A
C
C
I
don't
see
the
login
that's
supposed
to.
I.
B
B
Yeah
and
on
a
remote
side,
does
anyone
want
to
introduce
themselves
as
well.
O
B
P
Hi
everyone
I'm
matt
jarman.
P
I
live
in
ithaca,
new
york
moved
here
originally
from
southern
california
and
I'm
an
organizational
psychologist
by
training
but
currently
starting
a
non-profit,
and
we
want
kind
of
to
have
like
a
reputable
kind
of
sustainable
house
that
we
can
build
for
affordable
housing
and
as
a
source
for
revenue
for
the
non-profit
and
right
now,
I'm
exploring
natural
building
options
and
how
we
might
apply
some
of
what
we're
doing
for
the
cd
go
home
to
to
building
with
natural
materials
such
as
straw
and
cob,
so
just
exploring
kind
of
those
options
and
so
excited
to
meet
you
all.
C
Yeah,
real
quick,
the
computer
audio.
Do
you
want
to
test
this
before
we
get
feedback
or.
B
F
Hey
everybody,
I'm
burnt
out
software
guy
number.
Four,
I
think.
Last
time
I
was
counting
cyber
security
guy
number
three.
I
suppose
I've
been
a
big
fan
of
the
open
source
ecology
for
a
little
while
now
like
a
few
other
people
here-
and
I
am
trying
to
see
what
tools
there
are
to
help
me
get
out
of
the
rat
race,
that's
about
it.
F
J
B
So
yeah:
well
thanks
everybody
for
a
brief
intro
and
what
we
plan
on
doing
is.
In
the
morning
every
day
we
will
go
through
some
design
work,
but
here
today
is
intro
day
and
we
got
to
cut
out
at
9
30,
so
definitely
by
9
30.,
so
little
just
a
little
bit
more
intro
on
on.
Basically
my
my
background
on
this,
so
I
actually
come
from
poland
and
when,
when
I
came
out
of
poland,
this
was
1982
man.
These
tanks
were
rolling
down
my
street,
so
that's
a
real,
that's
a
real
scene.
B
That's
what
I've
seen
there
and
it
was
martial
law
behind
the
iron
curtain
had
to
wait
in
line
for
food
and
stuff
like
that,
so
yeah
kind
of
hard
times
I
moved
to
america
was
great.
You
know
easy
life.
The
shelves
filled
with
like
hundreds
of
each
item,
whereas
you'd
have
to
wait
in
line
and
be
like
one
one:
bread
like
vinegar
and
one
butter
and
like
when
you
saw
this
diversity
of
like
say
the
yogurt
shell
for
like
100
brands.
That
was
like
crazy.
What's
this
anyway,
life
was
easy.
B
I
was
useless
because
the
farther
I
went
the
more
I
was
getting
focused
on
not
seeing
the
connection
of
how
everything
works
together
in
a
more
integrated
sense
and
that's
why
that's
when
I
started
thinking
about
open
source,
because
even
in
my
group
I
could
not
talk
openly
about
what
I
was
doing
and
I
was
like
man
isn't
that
crazy,
like
I'm
in
an
educational
institution,
I
could
see
clearly
that
that's
getting
in
the
way
of
my
education-
and
I
start
thinking
well,
why
are
we
so
competitive
or
why?
B
Why
are
we
not
openly
collaborating
and
started
get
getting
really
into
that
question
to
formulate
the
concept
of
open
source
ecology,
where
we
can
do
things
in
a
in
a
different
way,
so
we
started
out
in
this
parcel
land.
This
is
where
we
are
that's
open
source
hardware.
That's
that's
the
lot
we're
at
we're
at
who
we're
on
and
that's
the
soybean
field
that
was
there
initially
when
we
started.
B
And
in
the
cons
in
the
concept
of
open
source
kind
of
the
evolution
views,
you
know
what
happened
with
open
source.
This
idea
of
collaboration
and
software
happened
because
people
said:
oh,
it's
actually
easier
to
share
code
and
the
person
doesn't
have
to
write
all
those
lines
and
then
open
hardware
kind
of
came
about,
and
it's
a
very
nascent
thing.
It's
maybe
we're
like
in
the
baby
steps
of
it.
B
We
still
haven't
gotten
much
further
than
I
would
say,
like
the
super
early
days
of
open
source
software,
where
it
wasn't
even
on
a
map
and
companies
weren't
supporting
it,
which
is
like
1991
like
when
linux
announced
this
kernel.
B
Soon
after
that,
like
within
a
year,
he
was
very,
very
deliberate
to
say,
okay
minimum
vehicle
product.
Let's
do
it,
they
did
it,
it
exploded,
but
hardware
is
so
much
harder.
It's
like.
I
actually
think
it's
about
a
thousand
times
harder.
It's
not
like
10x
100x.
I
think
it's
like
a
thousand,
even
because
every
change
costs
it's
like.
If
you
do
have
to
do
a
build,
I
think
it's
really
comparable
to,
since
we
got
a
bunch
of
software
people
here.
It's
really
comparable
to
every
bug.
B
Fixed
is
a
prototype.
Now,
if
you
get
smart
about
it,
you
can
do
what's
known
as
test
driven
design
where
you
take
a
small
section
of
the
problem,
and
you
just
solve
for
that.
So
you
design
for
tests
module
based
design,
you
break
things
into
modules
like
in
software,
and
you
can
go.
Try
actually
do
it
effectively
and
those
are
the
kind
of
things
where
we're
talking
about
how
to
do
effective
prototyping
when
it
costs
so
much
to
do
it
in
in
real
life.
B
How
do
you
do
it
so
formulated
the
concept
of
open
source
psychology
that
was
back
way
back
in
2004
and
talking
about
open
source
society?
What
is
the
next
thing?
How
do
we
create
an
economy
in
which
people
actually
collaborate
on
product
development,
which
does
not
exist
like
a
lot
of
people,
might
think?
Oh
yeah,
we're
collaborative
we
share.
Well,
no,
I
mean
the
patent
system
is
the
core
of
life
trade
secrets,
and
you
can
think
about
it's
like
man.
That
is
so
crazy,
because
it's
a
way
to,
I
always
call
it.
B
B
So
what's
this
all
about
it's
like
when
you
think
about
it,
start
thinking
about
it's
like
man
that
is
so
inefficient
and
now
problems
are
bigger.
You
know
the
whole
world
is
connected.
Environmental
issues
or
social
issues
of
equity
still
haven't
solved
the
I
the
concept
of
distribution
in
the
economy
right.
Well,
let's
solve
it.
Let's
solve
housing,
let's
sell
food,
let's
solve
energy.
B
Let's
solve
all
these
problems
by
collaboration
and
that's
clearly
kante
you're
saying
it's
common
open
source
is
coming,
but
it's
kind
of
slow
because
I
think
the
main
deal
is
we're
about
200
years
of
industrial
history.
Since
the
industrial
revolution
started
in
the
1800s
1700s,
it's
always
been
proprietary,
even
though
yeah
yeah,
since
since
about
200
years,
we've
got
200
years.
Welcome
just
went
through
introductions
we're
starting
on
a
presentation,
but
the
200
years
of
proprietary
history.
B
I
think
right
now
makes
it
very
hard
for
that
culture
to
enter
in
the
mainstream,
whereas
in
software
I
guess
people
were
used
to
it.
The
idea
these
people
heard
of
it
the
idea
that
people
shared
and
software,
because
originally
software
started
open,
is
that
true?
Like
did
it
originally
start
open?
I
mean.
K
G
B
Yeah,
but
definitely
the
concept
of
open
has
been
well
known,
but
if
you
study
history
too,
open
source
did
exist,
even
though
it
was
200
years
ago.
So
if
you
actually
look
at
the
actually
have
a
graph
on
that
later,
but
if
you
look
at
the
history
of
the
steam
engine,
how
what
happened
when
watts
patent
ran
out,
innovation
actually
doubled
and
the
efficiency
doubled
at
that
point,
so
you
can
argue:
okay,
well,
that's
related
to
open
source.
B
If
you
do,
if
you
do
study
it
pretty
carefully
yeah,
it
was
the
open
sharing
of
information
they
published
in
the
journal.
B
They
didn't
have
the
wiki
at
that
time,
so
it
was
a
little
slower,
but
still
it
was
a
good
example,
but
a
rare
one
because
most
because
just
about
anything
did
become
proprietary,
so
we
started
to
build
on
this
open
parcel
land.
We
discovered
that
things.
Actually,
you
know
yeah.
You
can
open
source
the
code
for
machines.
How
do
you
build
them?
If
you
can
build
it
for
yourself?
Why
not
open
source
it
publish
it
put
it
into
cad
at
that
time?
Actually
freecad
hardly
existed
like
it.
B
Wasn't
really
good
at
that
time,
so
didn't
really
have
cad
at
that
time,
but
yeah
started.
Designing
and
publishing
everything
online
replication
have
happened.
We've
learned
that
people
can
replicate
from
that
data.
This
is
actually
in
peru.
A
group
built
some
tractors
there.
This
is
a
replication
in
pasandi,
pasadena
and
california.
B
Yeah
things
things
do
happen,
but
what
is
open
hardware?
It
couldn't
apply
to
anything
from
tractors,
to
3d
printers.
That's
our
older
version
of
our
printer
to
satellites
cubesat,
open
source
drones.
This
is
an
open
source.
Laser
cutter
called
laser
sore
our
tractors
and
aquaponics
and
houses
like
that's,
that's
the
cdc
home
one.
B
We'll
do
a
little
tour
of
this.
That's
that's
the
first
version
we've
been
building
and
improving
that
ever
since
it
does,
I
think
it
would
pass
the
wife
test,
because
my
wife
is
is
the
manager.
I
manage
the
the
rocket
spaceship
takeoff
down
here.
It's
kind
of
messy,
but
the
fundamental
question
we're
trying
to
solve.
B
So
within
dust
with
the
industrial
revolution,
the
open
source
revolution
and
software
in
the
internet
age
still,
distribution
of
wealth
is
not
questionably
happening
because
there's
also
the
concentration
from
large
companies
that
are
sucking
up,
basically
gobbling
up
the
open
source
and
building
proprietary
stuff
on
it.
B
So
the
promise
of
open,
like
that
liberatory
promise,
in
my
view,
has
not
really
happened
and
the
distributive
what
we
call
the
distributive
economy.
This
idea
that
everyone
has
access
to
wealth.
Now
it's
not
there
yet,
but
it's
close
because
you
only
need
so
much
effort
to
get
there.
You
know
you
need
to
open
source,
it
once
create
a
community
behind
it,
and
then
it
lives
forever.
B
So
coming
here,
you're
becoming
immortal
like
you're
becoming
part
of
something
that
lives
forever.
I
mean
psychologically
that's
awesome
and
that's
how
we
should
think
we
think
about
it
like
that
we
think.
Okay,
how
do
we
solve
bigger
problems
together?
I
don't
have
to
carry
that
cross
on
my
shoulders.
B
It's
people
that
are
gonna
help
out
and
part
of
my
growth
has
been
a
lot
about
yeah
learning,
truly
what
it
means
to
collaborate
and
and
not
feeling
like.
I
don't
feel
like.
I
have
the
pressure
to
save
the
world.
It's
like
no
we're
gonna.
Do
it?
That's
that's
how
I
think
about
it.
So
it's
quite
liberatory
in
the
mindset
itself
on
that.
So
what
are
the
milestones
so
far,
so
we've
learned
some
crazy
things
about
extreme
what
we
call
now
extreme
manufacturing.
B
So,
for
example,
this
was
the
first
ever
one
day
build
of
the
brick
press.
We
built
that
whole
thing:
a
1
600
pound
machine
with
12
people
in
a
single
day.
Now
we
stayed
up
pretty
late,
it
took
us
till
midnight,
but
we
proved
it
was
like
holy
cow.
This
is
amazing.
If
you
do
smart
design,
do
it
simple?
You
have
to
have
some
support
like
so
that
was
the
small
team
that
did
it.
You
have
to
have
ikea
style,
fabrication,
diagrams,
just
really
good
documentation.
So
people
know
how
to
do
it.
B
You
have
to
have
a
team
workflow
and
stuff
like
here's,
a
building
in
one
of
the
early
micro
micro
houses
where
jeff
jeff
lives
there
now,
but
we
started
with
little
144
square
units
and
we're
getting
back
to
like
the
the
goal
is
to
get
the
cd
go
home
in
cb
by
next
year
like
right.
Now
we're
just
cranking
out
the
stick
built
version,
because
it's
much
easier.
This
is
much
harder.
You
get
you're
working
with
earth,
heavy
earth,
moving
equipment
and
the
brick
press,
but
we're
optimizing
for
that.
B
No,
we
haven't
played
with
that,
there's
a
whole
range
of
stuff
that
can
be
done.
Geopolymers
novel
concretes
we've
been
talking
about
solar,
concrete.
If
you
have
solar
energy,
you
can
heat
the
gravel
here,
which
is
limestone
and
turn
it
into
concrete.
You
could
do
a
lot
of
stuff
with
open
technology
in
a
distributed
way.
So
basically
the
idea
is:
take
all
the
resources
of
this
parcel
land
and
create
civilization
from
scratch
from
it
using
modern
technology.
That's
not
a
big
deal,
it's
you,
but
we
can't
do
it.
B
B
It's
like
you
can
save.
Perhaps
a
million
bucks
per
product.
You
can
probably
generalize
like
the
50
different
machines,
a
million
bucks-
if
you
kind
of
did
it
in
a
corporate
setting.
You
might
get
away
with
the
million
and
for
the
first
product.
That
then
starts
bootstrapping
itself,
but
it
does
take
a
bit
of
time
and,
as
I
mentioned,
every
every
bug
is
cost
you
that,
oh
those
that
was
the
first
cb
home,
that's
covered
there
with
cladding
the
bricks
that
we
used
weren't
stabilized
there,
that's
the
current
version.
B
Now
we
added
on
to
this.
This
actually
looks
better
than
this.
Oh
we'll
take
a
take,
a
look
at
that.
That
was
a
build
and
in
2016
50
people
in
five
days
for
the
house
and
then
five
days
for
that
upon
a
greenhouse
in
the
back
50
people.
So
the
swarming
part
works.
That's
the
micro
track.
You
can
actually
see
it
out
there.
We
are
using
this.
We
actually
shortened
the
track,
so
it
could
turn
easier
wait.
But
what
is
what
is
all
this
stuff
yeah?
B
So
I'm
talking
about
the
first
rev
first
model.
No,
oh,
I
don't
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
So,
let's
keep
going
here.
Let's
talk
about
modular
breakdown,
which
is
one
of
the
key
enabling
features
of
how
you
how
you
do
this
stuff.
So,
in
order
to
cut
down
the
costs,
you
can
and
that's
the
way
we
do
it
actually.
So
you
know
how
we
do
this,
but
we
have
a
whole
taxonomy,
there's
50
machines
in
a
set
we
break
each
down
into
like
a
dozen
modules
we
develop
each
one.
B
You
can
develop,
go
through
all
the
product,
development
steps,
from
concept
to
technical,
to
cad,
to
bills
of
materials,
to
fabrication,
to
testing
and
all
that
and
you
can
go
at
the
module
level-
that's
cool!
That's
it
works!
That's
how
software
did
it.
I
mean
modular
breakdown
and
the
ability
to
document.
B
That's
version
control,
that's
some
of
the
keys
that
made
it
in
in
software
and
the
same
applies
here.
It's
a
you
can
say
it's
a
close
parallel
right.
There.
C
So
everything
that
we
collaborate
on
gets
reviewed,
peer-reviewed
and
then
approved
to
go
out
and
do.
B
Yeah,
it's
it's
even
looser
than
that.
It's
like
the
wiki
is
there,
so
anyone
can
edit
it
right
now,
just
log
in
and
you
can
edit
it.
But
if
you
want
to
make
meaningful
contributions,
you
have
to
understand
a
little
bit
about
the
process
like
you
have
to
understand
several
aspects
like
taxonomy
like,
first
of
all,
what
are
we
calling
the
machines?
How
do
we
version
it?
What
are
the
development
steps,
but
if
you
know
that
you
can
say,
for
example,
cb
press
v,
21.10.
B
Which
is
going
to
be
october
when
we're
going
to
build
it,
that's
the
version
name.
Then
you
can
say
cad.
Okay
cat
is
one
of
the
development
steps
type
it
in
on
a
wiki.
It's
going
to
pop
up.
If
it
doesn't
make
it
pop
up,
you
can
do
redirect
it's
like
it's
a
very
loose
thing
and
we
save
the
commit
to
the
very
very
end.
B
We
we
are
not
locking
down
it's
actually
more
decentralized
than
software,
because
in
software
you
typically
have
project
teams
and
you've
got
the
the
master
guy
taking
care
of
the
master
branch.
B
Here
we
allow
all
the
branches
to
live
because
everybody
who
builds
it
like
say
another
guy,
this
guy,
this
green
guy
built
it
he's
gonna,
do
maybe
some
other
different
things.
So
we
actually
treat
every
single
build
as
a
fork,
so
it
gets
its
own
documentation.
So
you
just
copy
the
all
the
former
stuff
from
from
before,
because
something
is
going
to
be
different.
You
do
not
have
like
if
you
make
the
software
meta
for
a
uniform
compiler
people
build
it
differently.
B
They
have
different
tools,
they
might
get
different
materials
they
might
make
substitutions
for
parts.
Therefore,
each
build
is
quite
unique.
If
ken
does
it
in
indonesia,
he's
gonna
have
different
part
sourcing.
Maybe
he
uses
bamboo
frames
or
whatever,
so
we
treat
that
we
let
it
live.
So
we
save
the
reconciliation
of
of
the
final
commit
to
the
very
end
and
the
person
who's
got
authority,
for
that
is
really
the
builder.
B
Team
lead,
the
team
lead,
like
the
individual
authority
at
the
very
end,
is
the
guy
who
built
it
because
then
he
gets
data
they
see.
If
it's
buildable
I
mean
a
lot
of
authority
comes
from
that
person
and
whoever
builds
it
can
then
go
on
a
wiki.
Okay,
here's
my
version
all
the
documentation,
so
we
encourage
everybody
to
to
document,
keep
a
work
log.
B
If
you,
for
example,
know
like
can
log
marching
log
on
a
wiki
you'll,
see
like
all
the
stuff
that
we
do,
but
you
do
have
to
get
used
to
a
little
bit
of
this
like
okay,
the
taxonomy
part.
How
do
you,
what
do
you
call
things
like
very
basic
stuff
and
there's
a
whole?
We
can
go
into
a
whole
lesson
on
that.
We
will.
What
do
you
call
things
effectively
anything
that
anybody
in
the
world
does
within
five
seconds?
B
You
can
pull
it
up
on
the
wiki,
so
you
have
to
get
that
get
the
concept
of
how
you
do
that
in
your
head.
It's
not
particularly
hard,
and
you
can
actually
make
sense
of
the
I
mean
wiki
is
a
big
mess.
It's
got
a
lot
of
stuff
in
in
there,
but
if
you,
if
you
understand
the
navigation
of
it,
you
can
actually
track
down
any
piece
of
information
like
you
want
to
build
materials
for
curtis
your
printer
from
a
few
years
ago.
Well,
we
can
go
d3d
pro
v
whatever.
B
Well,
I
think
it
was
like
version
19
or
whatever
it
was.
I
forget
what
it
was
1904,
something
like
that
and
then
you
can
say:
cad
and
it'll
pull
up
the
cat
for
that
version,
because
we
I
mean
every
every
build
is
a
fork.
It's
like
every
time
we
iterate
we
haven't
really
frozen
much.
We
I
mean
we.
We
have
product
releases
like,
for
example,
the
3d
printer.
B
We
sell
the
brick
press,
we
haven't
sold
the
house,
yet
we
we
aimed
to
do
that
the
first
one
in
december,
but
yeah,
we
we
continue
developing
and
then
we
can
freeze
branches.
You
can
say:
okay,
this
is
our
official
version.
Maybe
we
sit
on
that
and
people
can
replicate
that
and
then
we
can
continue
iterating
on
others.
C
B
Yeah
right,
it's
not
neces
yeah,
you
could
call
it
master,
but
there's
a
thing
called
genealogy
like,
for
example,
there's
a
page
called
so
one
of
the
taxonomy
items
is
you
have
to
understand
what
genealogy
is
right,
so
here
we've
got:
okay,
there's
3d
printer
genealogy
click
on
that.
B
Well,
look
at
all
these
versions,
there's
like
20
30,
so
it
could
be
that
the
mat
like,
for
example,
we're
at
the
like
the
stuff
in
bold
is
the
one
we're
actually
as
the
main
branches
that
we,
I
think
we
sell,
but
there
could
be
newer
versions
or
there
could
be
older
versions
that
work
in
a
particular
way
that
you
like,
and
you
actually
want
to
build
that
older
thing.
It
doesn't
mean
it's
a
bug.
It's
bugged.
B
It
might
be
something
that's
more
appropriate
for
a
different
context,
because
we
don't
have
a
uniform
compiler
right.
So
do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
the
uniform
compiler
thing
yeah
so
like
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
to
repeat
the
the
guy
who
builds
it?
You
build
your
house,
you're
gonna,
probably
change
stuff-
maybe
maybe
not
probably
so
it's
never
gonna
be
the
same.
So
yeah
you
you
do
like
you
can
say
cd
go
home.
B
B
So
because
yeah
you
have
to
keep
track
of
everyone,
because
the
thing
that
happened
to
our
wiki
initially
was
at.
First,
it's
like
we
put
up
all
the
projects,
50
of
them
you've
got.
You
know
it
was
all
great
and
then
the
second
version
happened.
The
third
version
happened,
then
you
you're
like
okay,
so
this
documentation
did
go
with
the
first
second
or
third
version.
You
lose
track,
so
you
have
to
pretty
much
break,
make
a
new
documentation
set.
But
it's
easy.
It's
just
copying.
B
We
set
it
up
with
this
development
template
and
readily
start
developing
like
if
you
wanted
to
yeah,
I'm
not
going
to
show
that
right
now
getting
off
this.
B
B
As
long
as
you
know,
version
history,
like
we
use
free,
cad,
open,
openly
upload
everything
we
like
to
upload
readily
like
as
soon
as
we
have
something
we
don't
want
to
wait
like
so
we
have
oh,
this
is
now
actually
publishable
or
like.
This
is
the
working
version.
No,
because
that's
not
collaborative
like
what,
if
you
just
upload
it
right
now,
someone's
someone
who
actually
is
much
better
than
you
or
different
than
you,
they'll,
take
it
and
they'll
do
the
work
for
you.
You
come
back
tomorrow
and
that
thing
is
already
done.
B
You
can
move
on
to
the
next
problem.
That
would
be
true
collaboration
that
anyone
has
access.
That's
why
we
favor
tools
that
are
completely
open,
that
you
don't
have
no
pay
walls
or
no
nothing
blocking
people
from
accessing
information
so,
and
you
can
make
various
revenues
revenue
models
around
it,
such
as
selling
brick
presses.
B
There's
no
competition
like
the
markets,
for
what
we
do
are
very
large.
So
it's
like
we
don't
live
in
a
scarcity
economy
where
there's
only
this
short
market,
no
like
housing
is
going
to
be
universal
3d
printers
are
huge.
Tractors
are
huge.
Every
one
of
these
could
could
lead
to
what
we
call
distributed.
Market
substitution
idea
that
this
huge
corporation
now
is
now
being
replaced
by
a
bunch
of
small
producers.
They're
doing
it
more
responsibly.
More
innovatively,
like
the
business
model,
depend
really
determines
how
much
you're
going
to
innovate.
B
If
you
just
settle
down
to
producing
like
this
centralized
operation,
you're
going
to
have
to
spend
so
many
years
producing
that
same
thing
to
recoup
your
money,
innovation
stopped
all
that
so
we'd
like
to
see
the
context
of
distributed
manufacturing
where
everyone's
innovating
constantly
with
the
the
flexible
micro
factory,
flexible,
manufacturing,
digital
fabrication,
small
scale,
multi-purpose
machines,
cnc
machines,
small
operations,
very
diversified
they
can
produce
just
about
anything
and
iterate
like
crazy
and
innovation
happens.
That's
how
you
start
solving
problems.
B
You
can't
solve
problems
the
way
things
work
now
with
a
centralized
system,
it's
too
slow,
so
there
are
definitely
advantages
to
distributed,
but
look
at
the
revenue
models
like,
for
example,
if
we
built
a
brick
press,
we
we
did
a
couple
of
these
workshops
where
we
charge
people
tuition
to
participate
in
a
three-day
immersion
kind
of
like
what
we're
doing
here.
Also
we
sell
the
machine,
so
you
can.
You
can
have
a
viable
revenue
model
where
you
we
generate
10k
in
a
three-day
workshop
great
that
works.
B
Now
it's
hard
to
do
this.
This
is
not
easy,
like
yeah,
we
can
do
this,
but
we're
like
the
only
guys
that
can
do
it
right
now.
We
gotta
take
this
open
source
torch
tables,
cnc
files
better,
like
we
don't
have
a
like
a
full
build
guide
for
the
latest
version,
really
better
materials,
probably
like
we
could
probably
simplify
the
design
more.
We
haven't
like
revisited
this
since,
like
a
few
good
years,
but
any
of
these
can
be
turned
into
a
viable
revenue
model
like
the
3d
printer.
B
We
do
workshops,
for
example,
where
12
people
show
up
they
build
a
printer.
In
a
day
we
charge
people
300
bucks
for
tuition
for
that
day,
on
top
of
the
materials.
That's
that's
what
we've
done
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
times
or
this,
the
component
greenhouse
here
and
that's
that's
how
it
looked
in
its
prime
right
now,
it's
that's
a
jeff's
house
like
it
takes
maintenance
to
do
it,
but
it's
not
green
right
now.
B
So
I
you
know
I
I
lived
with
this
for
a
year
or
two,
a
couple
of
years
managed
it
and
at
the
end,
like
the
water,
the
thing
that
killed
it
was
the
drips
getting
clogged
so
every
day
like
after,
like
a
year
or
so,
I
had
to
go
up
there
for
like
15
minutes
every
day,
just
trying
to
unplug
the
things
and
after
some
time
it
got
too
frustrating
and
it's
like
okay.
I've
got
too
many
things
on
my
plate,
so
solving
little
things.
B
But
now
that
means
we're
not
producing
food
from
that,
but
this
little
iteration
we
solve
that
problem
and
then
make
it
super
robust,
make
a
revenue
model
around
that
yeah
I
mean
the
greenhouse
is
the
aquaponics
is.
It
is
very
impressive.
It's
it's
for
real,
like
the
that
one
there
with
the
two
ponds
like
that
they're
four
feet,
deep
two
feet
wide.
If
you
actually
manage
the
fish
in
there,
you
get
three
pounds
of
fish
per
day
per
day.
Man,
that's
for
real
and.
B
Yeah,
that's
that's!
That
is
no
joke
and
the
plants
in
there
are
you
can
because
of
towers.
You
got
22
plants
in
a
square
foot
as
opposed
to
one
plant.
You
can
do
a
thousand
plants
per
month
like
lettuce,
that's
all
an
800
square
foot
area,
so
man,
this
stuff
works.
Ours
is
the
most
cutting
edge.
There
is
like
nobody's
publishing
any
of
this.
You
can
get
some
proprietary
systems,
but
this
is
hard.
It's
a
fully
integrated
system.
You've
got
like
praying
mantises
in
there
tree
frogs
and
other
things.
It's
a
whole
ecosystem.
B
Well,
yeah,
they
would
just
go
in
there
and
whenever
we
we
found
one
in
nature,
we
would
put
it
in
there
and
yeah
and
ladybugs.
That
would
other
I
mean
bunch
of
stuff
so,
but
it
is
a
complex
thing,
as
I'm
saying
like
to
do
this
for
real.
B
It
takes
a
lot
of
input,
many
disciplines
and
it's
better
better
than
anything
out
there,
but
you
have
to
have
a
lot
of
knowledge
and
you
have
to
make
it
super
clear
to
people.
You
know.
We,
for
example,
got
stuck
on
the
thing
that
the
thing
keep
clogging
easy
solution.
You
know
different
different
nozzles,
different
pumps,
but
yeah
that
kind
of
stuff
takes
effort.
Every
time
you
do
it.
Okay
to
document
is
not
easy.
I
mean
who
whoever
documents
their
stuff.
Nobody
does
it's
it's
very
hard.
It
takes
a
lot
of
time.
B
It's
like
twice
the
effort.
We
learn
how
to
do
it
by
collaborating
with
remote
teams
like,
for
example,
when
we
build
this
ironworker
machine
that
shear
steel,
we
had
a
remote
team
documenting.
At
the
same
time,
we
took
pictures
we
uploaded
them,
and
then
we
had
an
instructional
at
the
very
end
of
the
build.
That's
amazing
you
can
do
things
like
that.
That's
what
the
internet
thing
can
get
you
we
found
replications
are
possible.
B
Two
pack,
like
four,
I
see
four
power
cubes
in
there
and
two
brick
presses
and
I
believe
those
are
after
our
model,
radical
modularity.
That's
a
big
deal.
That's
that's!
How
you
reduce
costs.
You
can
reduce
costs
by
reusing
parts
like
we
use
the
modular
tubing.
B
We
use
that
modular
tubing
in
frames
like
for
a
torch
table
like
for
this
ironworker
machine
that
can
cut
one
by
tenant
steel.
We
use
modular
wheel
units,
we're
gonna,
probably
build
this.
For
the
tractor.
This
is
the
universal
rotor.
It's
a
heavy
heavy
hydraulic
motor
with
we're
going
to
use
a
three
inch
shaft,
but
that
thing
is
used
both
like
on
this
trencher
on
the
front
on
a
wheel
drive.
B
You
can
run
pulverizers
with
that
yeah,
so
we
ended
up
learning
how
to
reduce
prototyping
cycles
from
months
to
days.
That's
for
real!
So,
for
example,
that's
that's
a
great
example.
That's
an
ironworker
machine,
the
first
one,
the
blue
one,
is
the
first
one
we
built
took
six
months
and
we
stripped
down
to
the
very
basics,
used
the
modular
construction
technique
and
built
that
one
in
two
days
with
two
people.
B
So
that's
a
big
difference
and
it
could
still
shear
that
one
by
ten
inch
steel,
keeping
a
close
but
a
very
close
blade
gap
between
the
blades
and
we
took
it
to
destructive
testing.
We
we
cut
up
to
one
by
twelve
before
the
thing
belt
bent
bent
up
and
we
disassemble
it
to
reuse.
It
build
back
hose
with
the
same
system
so
yeah.
So
we
talk
about
a
construction
set
for
everything.
So
if
you're
going
to
build
a
tractor,
why
not
design
a
construction
set
of
parts
like
here's?
B
Your
frames,
your
here's,
your
here's,
your
drive
units
power
units,
other
units,
that,
if
you
have
those
building
blocks
like
legos,
you
can
build
many
different
things.
So
you
can
build
that
tractor,
build
a
backhoe,
build
a
bulldozer,
a
like
a
unimog
style
thing.
So
it's
a
construction
set
approach.
Go
ahead.
C
B
B
Now
what
I
do
want
to
mention
on
this
too,
so
this
definitely
applies
to
mechanical,
but
it
could
apply
to
power,
electronics
like
inverters
or
energy
systems.
It
could
apply
to
houses,
that's
kind
of
mechanical
systems.
I
don't
think
there's
a
limit
to
what
kind
of
system.
This
applies
to
the
construction
step
approach
like
okay.
B
If
you
do
microchips
well,
you've
got
some
basic
building
blocks
that
you
do
with
that,
and
maybe
you
use
the
same
for
similar
tools
to
make
pv
panels
or
something
like
that
now,
in
the
other
realm,
you
can
also
talk
about
enterprise
construction
sets
too,
and
that's
kind
of
what
we're
going
to
try
to
cover
in
in
the
enterprise
sessions,
which
is
how
do
you?
B
How
do
you
build
up
collaboratively
the
building
blocks
of
any
enterprise
I
mean:
can
you
actually
break
an
enterprise
into
common
elements?
Okay,
here's!
Your
marketing
materials,
here's
your
product,
design
elements.
You
know
your
economic
analysis,
your
bills
and
materials
like
your
sourcing,
all
the
different
things
that
go
into
an
enterprise
and
that
also
going
into
like
sales
and
everything
else.
Can
we
create
those
collaboratively
in
a
way
that
if
we
learn
how
to
build
these
things,
like
say
that
you
know
the
3d
printer
is
a
great
example.
B
You
learn
how
to
build
that.
Then.
You
also
then
have
the
enterprise
construction
set
part,
and
then
you
can
readily
start
a
business
with
that,
so
assets
such
as
a
website
template.
You
know
that's
easy
picking
there
various
assets
that
we
can
also
collaborate
on
like
how
would
that
work
like?
Can
we
do
that
as
well?
It's
kind
of
a
new
topic
like
people,
don't
really
think
about
it.
This
way,
a
lot
of
people
think
oh
yeah.
B
Well,
you
gotta
team
up
with
your
startup
team,
and
you
know
you
gotta
get
ip,
you
gotta
work
in
a
corner,
but
how
about
we
crack
that
model
of
startup
capital
into
this
open
source
startup
capital,
which
is
that
you
have
all
all
this
from
product
design
to
the
enterprise
design
all
open,
so
we'll
explore
that
in
a
through
the
enterprise
session,
how
we
can
actually
do
that
maybe
apply
it.
If
there's
energy
for
that
apply
to
actually
okay,
let's,
let's
create
an
open
enterprise.
This
way.
C
Go
ahead
so
one
thing
the
best
businesses
in
america
are
all
built
on
systems,
so
that
is
absolutely
100
percent.
True
think
about
mcdonald's,
just
like.
F
C
How
about
and
this
this
scaling
the
enterprise?
So
that
is
the
big
question
with
my
open
source
project
for
victory
homes,
it's
basically
going
to
be
a
home
that
we
give
you
every
single
inkling
to
build
kind
of
like
we're
going
to
do
here.
However,
there
will
be
models
right.
B
B
That's
the
best
product
that
I
would
love
to
see
wish.
I
had
that
accessible
to
myself
and
that's
why
I'm
doing
this,
because
I
felt
that
my
education
was
going
to
be
farther
down
the
rabbit
hole
than
being
useless.
So
I
think
we
can
transform
society
by
this
and
it's
yeah
some
mind
shifts
necessary
for
that.
B
Think
people,
I
call
it
collaborative
literacy,
people
understanding
the
possibility
that
this
actually
exists,
one
that
even
open
hardware
exists.
Like
most
people,
don't
know
what
that
is.
So
it's
the
cultural
mindset
of
collaboration
that
a
lot
of
people
think
that
they
collaborate,
but
they
don't
like.
I
think
people
don't
grab
grasp
around
the
idea
like
when
we
publish
the
break
press
or
the
3d
printer.
It's
like
we.
B
We
thought
that,
oh
all,
these
people
are
going
to
just
start
businesses
around
it,
but
somehow
the
entrepreneurial
guys
they
don't,
and
I
think
that
is
a
lot
because
they
think
oh
well.
You
got
to
have
proprietary
ip
to
actually
come
out
ahead.
I
think
a
lot
of
it
is
cultural.
It's
people
do
not
really
collaborate.
B
B
H
K
Existence
and
then
make
your
bike
along
and
everything.
B
Yeah,
I
think
it
was
yeah
like
the
patents
ran
out
like
what
year
was
that
I
forget
what
was
around,
maybe
like
2008
or
reprep
project
started
and
the
whole
industry
like
right
now,
the
entire,
I
would
say
pretty
much-
the
entire
3d
printer,
the
consumer
industry,
on
that.
It's
all
derivatives
of
the
reprap
project,
so
they're
still
the
big
guys
and
they
have
some
markets
share,
but
yeah
a
whole
industry
came
up,
came
out
of
that
with
the
reprap
project,
so
that
can
definitely
work.
B
It
does
work.
People
are
not
really
aware
still
that
that
kind
of
possibility
exists
and
unfortunately
like
with
reprap.
B
I
think
reprap
was
a
great
milestone,
showing
that
open
hardware
can
scale
quite
a
bit,
but
I
think
we've
got
a
long
way
to
go
a
long
way
in
terms
of
because
collaborative
enterprise
design.
That's
definitely
not
part
of
that
equation,
like
the
guys
who
are
doing
the
big
companies
like
prusa
or
others.
I
mean
they're,
not
sharing
their
enterprise.
There's
none
of
that
kind
of
active
dissemination
of
enterprise
know-how,
I
think,
could
be
very
useful
because
I
mean
prusa.
G
K
A
B
Yep
so
yeah,
so
one
revenue
model
is
workshops,
teaching
people
how
to
build
things
like
brick,
presses,
3d
printers
greenhouses
yeah-
and
this
is
this
philosophical
question-
that
linux
won
the
battle
but
kind
of
lost
the
work
is
you
can
say
that
linux
is
a
it's
the
most
amazing
thing:
it's
it
succeeded.
Every
every
company
uses
it,
but
yeah
the
promise
of
distributing
wealth
has
not
not
really
happened.
Yet
there
is
an
open
kernel
in
linux.
B
H
B
B
It's
some
hardware:
it's
food.
It's
a
house.
It's
a
car,
very
basic
things.
We
can
access
openness
at
that
very
basic
level.
Wow
the
potential
there
is
so
much
bigger
for
for
change.
That's
it's!
Definitely
there.
Just
like
linux.
Just
like
hardware
is
much
much
harder
than
software.
The
potential
there
is
that
much
greater
for
good
or
evil.
It
can
go
either
way
you
can
go,
you
can
have
paradise,
you
can
have
misery
it's
up
to
us.
B
That's
always
been
like
that
except
technologically.
It
is
very
easy
for
one
way
or
the
other
like
well
at
least
prosperity.
Well,
the
good
side,
there's
technological
access
for
the
good
side
to
win
hands
down.
Right
now
for
everybody
to
be
prosperous,
oh
yeah
and
the
scarcity,
the
scarcity
stuff.
We
have
just
the
basics.
First
principles:
we've
got
10
000
times
more
power
from
the
sun
that
comes
that
comes
from
the
sun
to
us
than
we
use
even
in
today's
modern,
wasteful
economy.
B
There's
no
case
for
scarcity,
there's
abundant
materials
yeah,
it's!
So
it's
like
back
to
the
answer.
Why
is
this
not
happening?
It's
mindset,
it's
people's
awareness,
just
kind
of
tuning
in
to
the
possibility
out
there,
because
open
source
hardware
does
not
exist.
It's
like
tiny,
tiny
one
thousandth
of
one
percent
about
it's
like
nobody
has
heard
about
it.
Software
has
succeeded.
B
D
B
Yeah
it's
worse
now,
it's
it
should
be
falling
falling
down
like
closer
to
zero
means
that
everyone
has
equal
wealth,
whereas
one
means
that
one
person,
an
entire
planet,
has
all
the
wealth
we're
at
about
like
0.6
or
0.7.
There's,
definitely
like
that
tren
that
thing
right
there,
the
wealth
thing
in
2017.
Apparently
there
were
eight
billionaires
that
had
half
the
world's
wealth.
B
That's
yeah!
That's
that's!
Definitely
an
issue
free
free
hardware.
Now
the
founder
of
free
software
kind
of
he
doesn't
really
like
hardware.
He
doesn't
think
it
applies
to
open
source
applies
to
hardware,
but
I
don't
agree
with
that,
because.
C
B
Because
copying
hardware
is
so
hard
to
question
whether
we're
not
allowed
to
do
is
not
vitally
important.
Well,
it's
critically
important,
but
I
did
mention
it's
harder.
It
is
definitely
harder,
but
why
isn't
it
more
important?
It's
much
harder
and
much
more
important.
At
the
same
time,
we
don't
have
automatic
copiers
for
hardware.
Well,
you
can
debate
that
too.
There's
digital
fabrication
right.
B
B
Hardware,
rough
calculations,
kind
of
back
of
the
envelope
thing,
I'm
thinking
if
we
get
to
one
percent
of
open
hardware,
there's
like
a
tipping
point
and
how
do
we
get
that
tipping
point?
Yes,
this
is
actually
like
a
little
math
and
you
can
play
with
this.
But
does
this
make
any
sense?
So
tipping
point
is
occurs
when
10
percent
of
the
population
do
something
now
30
of
the
world
is
hardware
I.e.
The
rest
is
the
service
economy
and
information
economy,
and
then
salaries
are
40
of
gdp.
B
So,
if
you
take
that
times,
1
trillion
those
percentages-
10
percent
time
times-
thirty
percent
times
forty
percent-
why
do
I
say
salaries
because
salaries
are
what
people
do
for
a
living?
This
is
like
what
we
do
every
day
right.
So
if
people
are
doing
about
940
billion
those
percentages
of
the
entire
economy,
which
is
about
a
hundred
trillion.
B
Current
economy
is
about
a
hundred
trillion,
multiplying
that
by
a
hundred
trillion
you
get
like
a
940
billion
about
a
trillion,
so
it's
like
we're
just
gonna
get
to
a
trillion
like
about
a
hundred.
That's
all.
B
Yeah
agrarian
industrial
to
information
economies.
Now
we're
going
more
into
the
experience
economy.
I
think
this
digital
fabrication,
upskilling
of
people,
a
human
machine
collaboration,
gets
us
more
into
the
experience
economy.
B
I
think,
as
as
basic
needs
are
met,
people
are
looking
more
for
experience,
experiences
to
make
their
life
meaningful,
but
I'd
say
the
good
experience
is
being
connected
to
the
natural
life
support,
support
systems
that
support
us.
So
it
is
about
productivity
and
that
connection
to
making
things
it's
very
human.
It's
like,
I
don't
think
we'll
lose
it
anytime
soon.
B
But
what
is
the
open
source
economy?
It's
where
people
like
you
have
a
company
and
what
is
it?
When
have
we
gotten
there?
I
think
it's
when
companies
go
to
a
common
pool
of
knowledge
and
then
it's
distributed
knowledge
and
there's
many
more
companies,
but
that's
the
norm.
It's
like
you,
don't
have
to
go
file
for
a
patent
you're,
actually
getting
better
stuff,
because
everyone's
contributing
to
that
and
theoretically,
that's
obvious,
but
nobody
does
that.
So
once
again,
it's
like
a
cultural
thing
like
okay.
Why
don't
we
do
that
scarcity
mindset?
B
C
Hit
that
hammer
home
in
my
community,
they
pull
up
and
repave
the
roads,
rather
than
simply
there's
a
new
methodology
where
you
can
simply
like
skim
and
then
put
a
small
layer
on
and
it
lasts
twice.
As
long
will.
C
I
think
it's
seven
times
more
money,
but
because
it's
novel
they
refuse
to
do
it,
even
though
they'd
save
seven
times
more
revenue,
because
their
road
guys
know
how
to
do
one
road
thing
right.
You
gotta
rip
it
all
up
and
plop
it
all
back
down,
rather
than
using
enough
the
novel
technology
skim
redo,
and
then
you
know
allow
for
a
better
citizen
experience,
because
that's
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
better
citizen
experiences.
B
That's
a
seminal
book
that
says
that,
after
a
certain
scale
of
organization,
things
start
to
break
down,
and
one
of
those
breakdowns
is
the
inertia
that
you've
got
all
this
investment
into
some
kind
of
infrastructure.
You're
gonna
milk,
it
for
as
long
as
you
like
you
don't
care.
If
it's.
B
If
something
is
better,
you
try
to
snuff
out
the
better
stuff,
and
that's
just
just
how
things
work.
It's
kind
of
like
inertia.
It's
the
law
of
physics,
it's
a
natural
natural
law.
It
applies
to
large
organizations
too,
but
yeah.
So
we
published
about
open
source
the
concept
of
distributive
enterprise.
This
was
an
mit
innovations
journal
like
2011.,
so
that
word
came
out.
Nobody
knows
this
word
but
distributed
enterprise.
The
idea
that
you're
sharing
blueprints
of
the
enterprise
openly
so
that
many
people
can
benefit
as
a
result.
B
You
also
benefit
which
kind
of
happens
in
linux,
like
you
can
call
like
the
closest
thing
to
that
would
be
like
linux
foundation,
where
they
do
encourage
enterprise.
Of
course,
I
think
we
should
call
for
a
little
further
step
where
it's
explicitly
like
incubation
or
startup
assistance,
and
that
collaborative
product
development
like
yeah,
they
will
like
say
linux
foundation,
will
tell
you
we'll,
will
help
you
to
get
to
build
upon
all
this
open
source
code,
but
once
you
get
to
that
enterprise
level,
it's
competition.
B
It's
it's
solo,
you're,
trying
to
beat
other
guys
well
what
if
you
were
actually
trying
to
collaborate
with
all
those
other
guys?
That's
the
idea
that
distributed
enterprise
tries
to
capture
you're,
now
pulling
your
efforts.
You've
got
the
goods
now,
let's
get
to
where
the
rubber
hits.
The
road
you've
got
enterprise,
making
a
living
we're
still
killing
each
other
at
making
a
living.
So
we
should
collaborate
on
that.
That's
that's
distributed.
Enterprise.
B
Collaborative
economics
yeah-
I
don't
know,
but
ultimately
it's
it's
about
intrinsic
versus
extrinsic
motivation,
autonomy
mastering
purpose
drive
us.
It's
not
a
carrot
on
a
stick
that
drives
us,
so
people
are
looking
for
meaning-
and
I
I
do
believe
open
source
and
collaboration
and
taking
care
of
everybody
is
highly
tied
up
with
a
lot
of
meaning
and
a
lot
of
good
energy
for
everybody.
So
it's
on
a
good
site.
It's
a
good
old
fight
of
good
versus
evil,
and
we
continue
at
the
end
of
the
day.
B
It
has
to
turn
into
livelihoods
and
enterprises
that
people
actually
do
this
for
a
living.
So
part
of
the
challenges
here
is
that
until
you
get
the
products
well
developed
and
people
can
support
themselves.
People
just
come
and
go
that's
one
of
the
challenges
so
right
now
we're
focusing
a
lot
on
the
enterprise,
distribution
and
creation,
so
we
can
make
it
happen.
So
if
we
nail
this
house,
for
example,
that's
a
that's
a
really
robust
revenue
model
that
that
can
bootstrap
many
other
organizations,
the
idea
being
that
collaborate,
you
do
effective
enterprise.
B
You
use
that
to
cross-subsidize
world-changing
work.
That's
that's
our
vision!
For
what
we'd
like
to
do
as
open
source
ecologies
create
campuses
all
over
the
place
where
you
come
in
with
the
purpose
of
solving
pressing
world
issues
of
which
we're
not
sure
of
so
that'll,
be
a
good
thing,
so
get
involved
you're
here,
so
you
are
involved.
That's
it
all
right.
So
any
any
thoughts
on
this
any
questions
or.
B
Yeah
yeah
we
got
a
bunch
of
and
we're
gonna
dive
right
into
the
the
build
out
there
so
yeah
just
to
prep
yeah.
I
mean
we'll
we'll
be
talking
a
lot
about
this.
So
on
the
house
front,
it's
it's
yeah
active
build.
Today
we
do
the
foundation
so
we're
kind
of
like
almost
a
day
ahead,
because
we
said
we're
going
to
prepare
the
foundation.
We
kind
of
did
that.
I'm
not
sure
is
anyone
going
to
miss
preparing
the
foundation.
B
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
so
for
today
we
have
one
section
with
rebar
and
all
that
and
like
a
separator
thing
where
the
truck
comes
in
and
then
people
screed
it
in
other
words,
get
it
as
flat
as
possible
in
this
14
foot
by
48,
section
who's
done
that.
B
Okay,
so
so
we've
got
some
some
experience
on
that
idea
is
that,
with
the
the
speed
board,
we're
just
gonna
use
a
two
by
four.
That's
like
a
two
by
four
by
sixteen
just
kind
of
moving
it
back
and
forth.
The
idea
is
well:
we've
got
four
muk
boots,
so
four
people
could
be
in
the
mud
there.
When
when
we
do
the
screen,
we
can
actually
be
right
on
the
side,
because
it's
14
wide
the
board
is
16,
so
those
people
don't
have
to
get
dirty.
B
We're
renting
a
power
travel
to
level
that
all
smooth
smooth
that
all
off
that
works
really
well
last
time
it
kind
of
set
set
up
on
us
already.
We
didn't
care
just
take
the
power
trowel,
just
knock
it
down.
Anyway,
it
works.
Well,
it
smooths
out
the
concrete
quite
well,
but
you
get
ideas
like
if
you're
in
the
mud
there,
and
so
I'd
like
to
invite
you
whoever
we
got
like
four
pairs
of
boots.
B
Unless
you
don't
mind
getting
your
boots
all
dirty,
but
we
have
four
four
rubber
boots
that
you
can
put
over
your
shoes.
H
B
Those
are
those
little
rakes,
we,
you
move
it
so
that
the
people
who
are
screening
it
have
as
easy
a
time.
So
it's
near
near
as
good
as
it
can
be
at
that
point.
So
because,
because
moving
the
screen
board,
that's
the
heart.
I
think
that's
probably
the
hard
part
I
mean
all
of
it
is
hard
because
you're
moving
around
this
wet,
very
heavy
mass.
B
So
it's
it's
quite
exhausting
the
people
I
think
have
it
hard
is
the
the
guys
who
are
doing
a
speed
book
because
you're
moving
against
this
massive
concrete.
So
the
way
to
make
it
easy
for
those
people
is
make
it
as
close
to
level
as
possible
for
them
and
for
now
it's
quite
easy,
because
we've
got
a
clear
boundary
on
both
sides.
We're
going
between
one
is
the
finished
concrete
side
and
the
second
side
is
the
wood
board.
B
Where
we
work
against
that,
so
the
level
is
guaranteed
and
then,
after
that,
there's
there's
the
magnesium
floats.
There's
floats
people
can
like
work,
the
edges
there's
one
four
foot
float
we
have
and
the
last
step
is
the
power
trial.
But
you'll
see
it
it's
it's.
It's
cool,
it's
a
definitely
a
good
skill
and
pretty
rewarding
to
have
yeah
and
then,
hopefully,
in
a
in
a
year
or
two
we'll
we'll
be
making
solar
concrete.
So
that's!
That's
our
next!
B
B
A
B
Nice,
okay,
cool
yeah,
we
introduced
ourselves
and
the
brief
yeah
yeah.
Oh
I'm
curtis.
M
J
First
is
my
brother:
I
live
michigan
chicago,
so
I'm
on
the
farm
in
michigan
and
I.
A
J
To
make
a
tiny
house,
you
know
it
keeps
me
warm
and
that
so
that
I'm
here
in
support
of
him,
but
learning
that
yeah.
G
B
In
ghana
there's
basically
it's
melting
steel
from
rocks,
that's
where
all
the
wealth
comes
from
from
rocks,
sunlight
plants,
soil
and
water-
that's
pretty
much
it
and
then
we
process
it
through
the
modern
lifestyle
should
be
easier
than
it
is
right.
Now
we
shouldn't
have
housing.
Is
the
number
one
cost
in
our
life?
Other
animals?
Don't,
but
that's
what
we're
working
on
related.
B
B
C
B
Research
yeah,
I
mean
there's.
Definitely
in
some
a
lot
of
these
industrial
processes.
There's
a
lot
of
heat
involved
or
energy.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
processes
are
energy
intensive,
but
that's!
Okay.
If
we've
got
solar
energy,
solar
panels
are
dropping
to
near
zero
proportions,
and
that
is
gotten
from
breaking
apart
silicon
dioxide
into
silicon.
B
So
how
do
they
do
that?
How
do
you
take
the
oxygen
out
of
a
silicon
atom?
That's
also
a
high
temperature
process
and
I
believe
that's.
What
is
that?
I
think
that's
electrolysis,
so
you
put
current
through
that
and
the
thing
just
breaks
up.
That's
a
very,
very
high
energy
process,
but
the
raw
feed
stocks
are
very
abundant
and
we
have
abundant
energy
still
so
there's
a
concept
of
like
it's
called
kardashev
scale.
B
Who's
heard
of
that
kardashev
scale
is
the
amount
of
it's
like
when
we're
going
to
settle
the
universe
sometime
in
the
future.
Maybe
the
kardashian
scale
is
how
much
of
a
planet's
resource
or
galaxies
well,
how
much
energy
of
the
available
energy
you're
using
so
on
earth.
B
One
would
be
that
we're
using
all
the
available
energy
all
this
energy
from
the
sun,
which
is
10
000
times
more
than
we
use
today,
but
think
about
that.
So
if
you
start
thinking
from
first
principles,
that
means
we
can
have
way
many
more
people
way
more
things
happening
on
this
planet
population
can
probably
go
10
hundred
thousand
times
and
we
still
survive
so,
but
it's
our
choice
where
we
want
to
be
it's
like
we
got
to
make
those
decisions.
B
Yeah
yeah,
but
you
can
like,
for
example,
if
global
warming
is
the
thing
to
solve,
I
mean
solar
energy
is
where
right
now,
the
payback
energy
payback.
That
means
how
much
energy
goes
into
building
a
solar
panel,
it's
about
one
to
two
years
right
now,
so
that
means
after
one
to
two
years,
you're
getting
free
energy,
carbon,
neutral
carbon
negative,
because
you're
producing
all
that
from
you're,
not
spending
anything,
it's
you're,
getting
it
from
the
sun.
B
B
L
A
C
E
Yeah,
it's
wait
a
couple
of
years.
First,
solar
is
building
facilities
all
over
ohio
that
are
due
for
2023.
they're,
shooting
for
six
megawatts
a
day
of
solar
panels
and
film.
I'm
not.
B
B
You
know
also
you
want
to
be
careful
about.
I
mean,
I
would
say,
like
you,
always
have
to
keep
your
wisdom
around
you,
because
yeah.
B
H
B
B
Can
I
zoom
in
a
little
bit
on
that,
so
we're
actually
going
to
do
day.
One
we're
gonna
go
straight
to
foundation
in
this
version
like
painting
staining
spraying
now
we
don't
have
to
do
that.
Yet
we'll
do
that
at
the
end,
but
we
we
did
it
all
pre
pre-painted.
It
gets
messed
up
through
the
whole
process.
It
doesn't
work
so
we're
this
is.
This
was
based
on
the
old
model.
So
now
we're
going
to
do
that
later.
C
I
was
just
going
to
say:
did
you
guys
think
about
double
tarping
it
or
anything
beforehand,
because
I
mean
working
with
concrete
once
it's
enclosed
dust
is
gonna
become
a
significant
issue,
even
if
it's
open
top
and
a
in.
C
What
do
you
mean
like
I'm,
assuming
we're
gonna
like
for
for
the
concrete
take
like
buff
it
and
then
yeah.
B
C
I
would
assume
dust
in
an
enclosed.
Oh.
L
C
The
normal
reason
why
it's
usually
done
like
kind
of
out
in
the
open
before
other
things
are
put
around.
B
Yeah,
so
so
the
way
it
works
right
now
we
have
the
house
that
we're
gonna
build
here,
which
is
pretty
much
a
quick
run
through
the
entire
frame,
so
you've
got
entire
framing
a
foundation
there
skin
structure,
floor,
roof
doors,
windows,
skin
water,
water
barrier,
we're
going
to
leave
it
at
that
and
kind
of
decorate
it.
It's
got
a
decorative
trellis
at
the
end.
Roof
is
the
epdm
flat
roof
which
is
not
flat.
B
It's
sloped
four
inches,
then
we're
going
to
go
to
the
cdc
home
2,
which
has
already
it's
already
standing
and
we're
going
to
work
on
the
all
the
interior
finishing
there.
So
like
electrical
bathroom
plumbing
and
stairs,
and
things
like
that.
B
So
we
have
actually
two
two
places:
we're
gonna
be
working
on
now,
this
one
we're
actually
gonna,
recycle
we're
gonna,
take
it
down
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
we're
gonna
use
that,
as
our
is
our
training
model,
that
we
keep
rebuilding,
like
probably
every
quarter
for
a
new
workshops
and
by
the
way
we
want
to
guarantee
that
you
absolutely
learn
what
you
need
to
build
your
own,
so
you're
actually
invited
tuition
free
to
the
next
one.
If
you
feel
like
you've
got
more
to
learn.
B
B
You'll
you'll
get
a
feeling
of
the
process
if
you're
experiencing
building
yeah
you'll,
definitely
like
crank
out
the
whole
house,
no
problem,
but
there's
a
lot
of
systems
in
there.
So
each
one
is
a
you
know,
quite
an
education,
so
we
can
only
do
so
much,
but
with
the
documentation
like
documentation
like
we're,
gonna
redo
the
documentation
for
this
newer
model.
Hopefully
you
can
get
involved
remotely
on
that.
B
Using
freecad
that
will
teach
you
and
stuff
like
that,
so
we're
gonna
be
working
in
two
places:
the
whole
thing
up
to
pv,
carport,
cabinets
and
trim.
I
mean
yeah
just
everything
now
after
that
aquaponic
greenhouse
build
we'll
do
what
we
did
before,
but
we're
going
to
build
upon
it.
So
how
we're
going
to
build
upon
it,
we're
going
to
add
a
bio
digester
and
we're
going
to
go
for
closed
loop,
black
water?
E
B
Yeah,
so
that's
that's
actually
wastewater
from
the
house,
so
we're
gonna
do
a
little
right
now
we
actually
have
a
biodigester
in
a
current
seed
home
one
and
that
gets
it
down
to
where
it's
a
two
tank
system,
but
it
processes
all
the
waste.
So
it's
fertilizer,
what
comes
out
of
it?
Well,
why?
Don't
it's
just
black
sink
and
toilet?
B
We
got
that
feeding
into
it,
so
we're
gonna
do
this.
We
can
do
that
and
we're
gonna.
We
can
install
those
elements
for
for
the
biodigester
worm
towers
like
we
know
how
to
do
worms
and
greens
and
some
other
things
so
we'll
put
in
all
that
with
the
fish
and
we're
going
for
like
a
more
modular
system.
We're
not
gonna
we're
gonna
use
the
same
pad
foundation
there.
So
we're
gonna,
build
the
structure,
the
glazing
but
use
more
modular
tanks,
I.e
like
we're.
B
Not
gonna
dig
with
a
backhoe
on
the
concrete,
we're
gonna
leave
that
and
build
on
top.
So
a
two
foot
depth
of
a
wood
framed
kind
of
a
pond
which
is
more
modular,
still
retain
the
height,
so
you
get
the
vertical
growing
put
fish
in
there.
So
that's
15
through
the
19th
23
to
20
seconds
of
the
3d
printer
build.
B
B
First
person,
that's
that's
done,
helps
other
people,
and
so
that's
some
collaborations,
maybe
a
different
mindset
for
some
people,
but
that
gets
the
best
results
and
everyone
gets
finished.
No
one
gets
left
behind
and
and
then
people
who
do
it
faster
and
get
to
help
and
the
people
who
are
slower
don't
be
shy
to
ask
so
that's
kind
of
cultural
building.
B
We
want
to
work
it
together,
like
that,
then
the
tractor
built
23
3rd
through
the
29th.
That's
going
to
be
we're
going
to
put
several
power
cubes
on
it.
I
think
we
promised
four
and
we
can
do
that,
but
it
really
depends
on
how
many
people
we
have
that
are
actively
engaged
at
and
we
can
get
as
ambitious
or
lower
things
as
needed.
We
may
we
can
go
anywhere
from
one
to
four
power,
cubes
we're
modular,
so
we
definitely
can
build
a
simple
frame.
B
Loader
cab
drive
unit
power,
cubes
and
that
can
all
go
in
parallel
and
that's
how
you
you
actually
get
to
the
rapid
speed
of
build
which,
if
you
actually
look
at
the
numbers,
if
you
look
at
the
most
the
largest
tractor
company,
these
kinds
of
numbers
where
you
have
like
five
days
or
so
we
have
to
have
actually
done
it
in
like
two
or
three
days
for
a
75
horsepower
tractor
that
we
used
for
doing
the
nut
planting.
B
We
built
that
in
like
two
or
three
days
with
four
guys
that
was
pretty
cool
but
yeah
the
rate
of
production
like
how
how
fast
you
can
build.
It
is
competitive.
This
this
stuff
can
work,
especially
if
you
have
digital
fabrication,
cnc
torch
table
where
you're
cutting
parts
not
sure
where
the
torch
table
is
going
to
be.
B
On
that
part,
we
don't
necessarily
need
the
torch
table
for
the
tractor,
build
as
we're
largely
going
to
depend
on
on
the
box
beam
tubing
that
that
we
already
have
the
four
by
four
inch
square
tubes,
which
are
all
already
all
cnc
cut
with
a
hole.
So
you
got
one
inch
one
inch
holes.
Every
four
inches
makes
it
easy,
but
actually
one
of
the
things
we
found
out
is
you
don't?
You
do
want
to
do
some
welding?
Because
if
you
do
a
cube,
that's
xyz
bolts.
B
B
So
that's
that's
month,
one
oh
crazy,
and
then
we
focus
on
the
cnc
machines
and
plastic
recycling,
large
3d,
printer
yeah,
so
we're
going
to
scale
up
with
the
axis
that
you
see
back
there
they're
just
eight
millimeter
we're
gonna.
Do
one
inch
rods
four
by
four
by
eight
wow,
that's
pretty
pretty
chunky
eight
feet
full
metal
printer.
That
means
we're
going
to
attach
a
welder
head
instead
of
the
printer
nozzle,
the
plastic
nozzle
we're
actually
building
the
torch
table
october
7
through
the
tenth.
B
So
this
is
when
we
definitely
have
the
torch
table,
then
filament
maker
plastic
shredder.
How
do
you
do
a
filament
maker,
heater
bands,
one
inch
auger
one
inch
pipe
and
a
drive
motor
and
a
controller,
the
modular
way
we
build.
We
can
use
the
identical,
3d
printer
controller
to
control
this
filament
maker.
B
So
we
use
all
this
modularity
concept
for
a
shredder.
That
would
depend
on
a
torch
table
to
cut
the
blades
with
and
we're
going
to
keep
it
simple.
So
we're
going
to
drive
it's
going
to
be
a
dual
shaft
counter
rotating
design
simplest
way
attach
a
motor
to
each
you've
got
power.
Cubes
you've
got
powerful
hydraulic
motors.
B
Each
hydraulic
motor
is
like
the
one
we're
going
to
use
costs
like
180
bucks.
That's
a
so!
You
got
like
360
and
drive
power,
but
you
got
industrial
grade
strength
there
for
like
at
that
level,
you'll
be
at
probably
like
I
don't
know
tens
of
tons
per
day.
I
mean
this.
Is
industrial,
so
drive
it
by
a
power
cube,
so
we'll
do
that
half
inch
blades
serious
size,
those
up
to
one
inch
or
two
inch
which
the
cnc
torch
table
can
cut,
make
yourself
a
rock
rock
crusher
metal
shredder
for
recycling.
B
So
all
this
here
can
be
scaled
up.
The
basic
design
principles
can
be
scaled
up.
You
have
to
do
a
little
bit
of
calculation,
know
a
little
about
psi
and
basic
structural
engineering,
but
it's
good.
So
the
second
half
of
october
machines
flurry
cnc
machines,
so
we've
got
access
to
the
one
inch
and
possibly
two
inch
universal
axes.
We'll
focus
largely
on
one
inch
attach
all
kinds
of
different
heads
up
to
like
saw
sawmill
cutting
head.
B
We
can
do
the
gantries
up
to.
We
did
the
rebar
truss,
which
now
allows
us
to
scale
our
axis
to
20
foot
lengths
that
works
great
in
terms
of
strength
for
a
lightweight
low-cost
structure.
B
B
Heavy
rotors
to
the
axis
system,
if
you
want
to
do
any
kind
of
serious
work,
then
we'd
have
to
start
with
the
two
end
rods
for
a
two
inch
universal
axis
on
a
two
by
two
inch
axis.
You
can
still
get
about
about
a
half
a
thousandth
deflection
upon
200
pounds
of
force.
B
It's
pretty
good
if
you
understand
that,
but
the
two
two
two
inch
axis
gets
you
to
do
that,
so
that's
getting
into
heavy
contact
machining
on
the
one
inch
you
get
to
lighter
contact
machine
like
cnc
torch,
that's
non-contact,
printers
and
torch
tables
are
non-contact.
B
You
can
do
say,
like
I
don't
know
three
by
three
gantries
for
small
light
duty,
milling
kind
of
thing,
with
a
one
inch
axis,
but
for
heavy
duty.
You
got
to
go
to
two
inch
and
three
inch
at
that
point.
We'll
build
as
many
as
we
can.
What
what
do
we
decide?
What
kind
of
head
do
we
want
to
put
on
it?
Do
you
want
to
maybe
continue
with
the
welder
head
and
start
perfecting
the
wire
arc
additive
manufacturing,
the
three
the
metal,
3d
printing?
B
It's
up
to
us
there
and
then
a
month
three
is
on
a
heavy
machine.
So
there's
there's
a
section
of
november,
one
through
seventh
on
a
3d
printer
product
development,
so
we're
going
to
do
print
a
lot
of
different
things
like
things
like
bearings
or
our
belts,
and
it
was
intended
to
be
product
development
where
we're
actually
exploring
making
different
mixes.
We've
got
a
bunch
of
different
pellets
or
stuff
we're
gonna,
just
thrown
into
the
grinder
to
grind
like
old
pvc
old
prints.
B
We
could
explore
making
formulas
for
filament,
so
I
mean
3d
printed
product
development.
One
thing
that
could
happen
is
I
mean
to
get
printer
filament,
that's
pretty
much
from
trash
that
that's
a
big
deal,
because
that
way
you
can
solve
like
with
the
housing
it
applies
to.
We
can
start
printing
like
okay,
so
I
mentioned
the
four
by
four
by
eight
printer
for
what
for
the
house
panels,
other
building
materials.
So
that's
that's!
Where
we're
going
to
how
far
we
get.
B
I
don't
know.
How
far
are
we
gonna
get,
so
we
do
have
the
ability
to
build
frames
of
any
size.
We
have
universal
controllers,
larger
stepper
motors,
if
you
think
about
a
single
belt
drive
on
a
stepper
working
strength,
is
50
pounds,
that's
decent
without
any
gear
down
like
not
talking
any
gear
downs.
Yet
so
we've
got
controller
frame
access
capacity
to
do
just
about
anything.
So
what
we
do
with
it
is
about
how
quickly
we
all
learn
to
put
them
together
and
how
they
work.
B
B
We
don't
have
like
a
hundred
people
here
we
only
have
a
dozen
or
two,
and
the
second
part
is
gonna,
be
a
total
of
a
dozen
people
like
actually
nine
people
on
site
through
the
whole
program
first
month
is
like
heavier
but
yeah.
We
still
don't
have
like
two
too
many
people,
but
we'll
see
what
we
can
do.
We
kind
of
like
the
way
it
turned
out
regarding
this,
like
because
of
calvin,
we
were
like
weren't
sure,
like
what's
gonna
happen,
so
we
kind
of
didn't
really
push
the
publicity
a
lot.
B
So
we
don't
have
two
too
many
people,
but
we
do
have
a
nice
core
crew
that
we
can
do
a
lot
with
so
sole
condition.
Oh
yeah,
so
cb
press
build
those
three
days.
We're
gonna,
build
and
run
and
probably
make
some
walls
for
the
the
pad
that
we
have
over
there.
Soil.
B
Yes,
that's
the
missing
link
to
to
affect
the
production.
If
you
want
to
do
stabilized
block,
you
can
do
unstabilized
straight
out,
but
just
with
it
like
a
rototiller
or
whatever.
If
you
want
to
stabilize
you
want
to
do
a
saw
conditioner
that
doses
a
certain
amount
of
cement
in
a
regular,
very
controlled
manner,
so
we'll
prototype
that
and
then
grand
finale
about
two
weeks
of
big
tractor
build.
So
what
are
we
saying
there?
A
bunt
like
eight
power,
cubes,
just
snap
them
snap
them
all
on
it.
We
know
how
to
do
that.
B
The
way
we
do
it
actually
is.
We
we
use
one
mother
power
cube
which
has
got
the
hydraulic
reservoir,
cooler,
filter
and
then
each
then
individual
motor
pump
units
and
that's
how
we
can
keep
it
manageable.
So
we
can
use
like
turn
on
one
of
them
turn
on
all
eight
of
them,
so
we'll
play
with
that.
B
Yeah
one
mother
and
three
well
actually
one
mother
and
then
four
four
babies
there,
because
we'll
just
keep
the
hydraulics
part
cooler
and
all
that
to
keep
the
part
that
breaks
like
the
engine
is
the
part
that
fails
so
keep
that
separate
and
small
and
manual.
So
if
it
breaks
actually
take
it
out
right
by
hand
snap
anyone
in
zero
down
down
time
down
time.
So
that's
the
idea
hey,
but
we
gotta
quit
here,
because
the
concrete's
arriving
soon
we
gotta
get
ready.
So
everybody
yeah
stop
get
to
the
site.