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D
E
G
H
A
Is
my
first
time
here,
I
just
wanted
to
see
what's
going
on
and
learn
about
the
efforts
I
think
this
is
I
know
Greg
could
join
probably
a
couple
weeks
ago,
I'm
not
sure
if
we've
had
any
other
day
doc
people
tend
these
means
as
I
don't
drink
liquor
so
probably
yeah.
This
is
the
first
time
I'm
seeing
folks
flown
bettered
of
joining
their
doughnut
linking
yeah.
So
happy
learn
what's
going
on
yeah,
you
know
see
what
we
can
do.
Okay,
yeah
welcome.
E
B
E
Good
alright,
since
there
was
no
specific
agenda,
putting
the
dogs
I'll
just
follow
whatever
I
put
there.
This
is
my
own
agenda,
but
it
should
pretty
much
cover
the
status
and
what
a
Linux
steps
which
be
how
so
the
first
one
is
cue
cup
date
on
the
progress
with
span
to
activity
change.
So
let
me
open
the
epic
issue
which
I
open
tracking
this
fairly
big
change.
So
we
made
significant
progress
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
so,
as
you
can
see,
most
checkboxes
are
being
hit.
E
Now
this
is
already
being
worked
on
in
parallel,
I
have
a
peer
out
which
should
close
on
the
first
issue
and
yeah.
We
have
the
basic
example
and
shim
yeah
and
yeah.
We
even
have
the
basic
benchmarking.
We
did
the
hosting
changes
as
well,
so
pretty
pretty
close
to
what
we
had
with
span.
The
keep
missing
pieces
is
like
patching
to
serve
multiple
plane
and
resource.
This
should
be
relatively
straightforward.
Mike
already
has
a
working
peer,
it
just
needs
some
tests
fix
us
before
we
can
merge.
So
overall,
we
are
in
good
shape.
E
I
have
one
last
or
not,
last
probably
towards
the
end
one
peer
which
changes
something
in
the
instrumentation
adapters.
I,
don't
know
like
if
we
don't
have
time,
if
you
don't
have
anything
any
other
topic,
I'll
come
back
to
it
towards
the
end
and
discuss
it
in
more
detail.
But
essentially
what
I
am
seeing
here
is
most
of
the
stuff
are
done,
and
we
can
I
have
one
item
on
me
to
write
a
dog
comparing
the
activity
at
the
end
span.
E
Ap
I
did
start
on
it
couldn't
finish
it
quite
so
that's
my
like
number
one
priority
today,
so
I
I
will
share
it
as
soon
as
it
study
with
in
the
jitter
channel
and
as
an
issue.
So
you
can
go
ahead
and
compare
like
play
with
both
AP
A's
and
get
a
feel
of
like
how
it
compares
with
each
other
and
goal
is
like
next
Tuesday.
Like
next
meeting.
We
can
actually
start
the
discussion
on
like.
Are
we
close
enough?
E
Do
we
have
enough
conference
to
say
that
we
can
achieve
everything
the
Kuna
achieved
with
span
APA
with
the
activity
APA,
and
then
we
can
start
investing
in
rapper
or
shim
layer
and
then
even
after
another
week
or
two,
we
can
see
whether
we
are
good
to
remove
span
APA
or
between
still
need
more
things.
So
that's
pretty
much
the
update
from
like
overall
progress,
update
from
sorry
I
didn't
get
your
gift.
Can
you
repeat.
G
E
To
share
context
for
those
who
are
not
familiar,
we
built
the
first
version.
It's
still
alpha
using
exclusively
using
the
opened
elementary
concepts
or
nomenclature
of
span
APA,
which
was
built
on
top
of
the
dot
Nets
activity
APA.
But
as
we
made
more
more
progress,
we
realize
that
like
span
and
AP
span
and
activity
are
more
or
less
the
same
thing.
So
we
worked
with
dotnet
team
to
make
activity
match
more
and
more
closer
to
the
span,
so
we
can
finally
get
rid
of
like
1
in
favor
of
the
other.
E
We
haven't
closed
that
piece
eh,
because
we
still
have
ending
changes
from
dotnet,
which
will
make
activity
like
really
very
well
aligned
with
span.
So
that's
my
next
topic
to
cover,
so
the
goal
is
like
people
were
like
in
the
last
few
weeks
we
were
discussing.
The
goal
was
to
like
make
real
progress
with
like
the
new
activity
from
dotnet
team,
see
if
there
are
any
issues,
give
them
feedback
and
let
the
mattress
hit
and
one
sphere
a
reach.
E
Once
you
reach
a
point
where
activity
you
can
cover
like
95
negative
percent
of
span
scenarios,
then
we
can
decide
like
what
should
be
the
future
like.
Should
we
just
kill,
span
completely
and
be
done
or
should
we
keep
span
a
say
like
a
thin
layer
on
top
of
activity?
So
we
are
about
to
reach
that
point
where
we
can
have
some
meaningful
discussions
about
and
activity
because,
as.
E
It
what
you
need
to
write
an
update,
so
that's
what
I
was
showing
only
like
be
how
httpclient
a
spin
a
core,
asp.net
and
bunch
of
other
libraries.
These
are
already
using
the
old
way
of
creating
activities,
and
we
need
instrumentation
adapters
to
translate
them
from
the
old
way
to
the
new
way.
Yes,
question.
G
That
may
or
may
not
be
irrelevant,
but
maybe
at
least
just
to
raise
it
on
this.
It's
not
relevant.
That's
fine,
so
Auto
instrumentation
like
so.
Basically
the
solutions
that
use
cordless
attach
they
using
activities
right.
So
they
would
essentially
need
to
detect
a
version
of
system
Diagnostics
in
the
process
and
different
things.
G
E
Don't
really
know
if
they
like
full
answers,
but
the
one
which
currently
sure
uses
the
one
which
attaches
the
cordless
attach
it
just
loads.
The
actual
SDK
and
this
teacher
brings
the
right
version
of
the
Diagnostics.
Also,
it
can
always
be
assured
that
the
version
is
going
to
be
the
one
which
we
depend
on
so,
for
example,
if
in
the
future
the
cordless
scenario
uses
open,
telemetry,
SDK
and
open
telemetry,
a
state
here
depends
on
Diagnostics
source
version
5.0.
Then
we
can
be
assured
that
5.0
will
be
proved
by
the
open,
Demetrios
click,
a
button.
E
Even
the
current
behavior
of
a
sure
attached
is
it
just
backs
of
the
coldest
attach
will
not
even
touch
the
process
if
it
already
has
diagnostic
source,
so
it
just
backs
opening.
There
are
teams
which
are
trying
to
fix
that
problem,
so
I
don't
really
help
status
update,
but
the
current
behavior
is,
if
you,
sir,
have
users
diagnostic
source
in
their
application
and
they
try
to
do
assure
codeless
attached
in
any
way
like
vm
or
web
service.
E
G
E
Yes,
so
I
did
mention
about
this
in
the
cheaters
channel,
so
this
is
I
have
put
the
link
to
upcoming
changes
from
dotnet.
These
changes
are
basically
based
on
the
feedback
which,
like
this
group,
has
given
to
the
dotnet
team
in
the
last
few
weeks.
This
are
things
which
will
remove
the
current
gaps
which
activity
has
as
compared
to
the
span
a
PA.
It's
I
hope
you
would
it
myself.
E
It
looks
completely
pretty
much
addresses
everything
which
we
asked
like
things
like
tags
being
not
able
to
do
anything
other
than
string
string,
but
the
span
was
able
to
do
more
than
string
string,
you're
having
suitable
activity
kind
or
span
range,
and
what
was
it
like?
There
was.
There
was
no
ease
remote
in
activity
context
but
span
context
had
it
so
a
smaller
smaller
changes.
Cumulatively,
we
ended
when
it
becomes
like
actual
thing
like
when
don't
need
team
ships,
a
version
which
contains
this
new
features.
E
We
should
be
able
to
just
adapt
it
to
them,
because
we
have
put
like
two
deuce
in
the
code
currently
like
waiting
for
dotnet
to
next
solution
to
this,
and
we
should
be
able
to
I,
don't
know
any
TA
but
like,
but
we
are
not
currently
blocked
on
it,
but
because
we
have
used
for
comics.
Sometimes
we
have.
We
used
a
reflection
to
put
things
like
kind
is
not
suitable,
so
you
just
use
reflection
to
make
it
suitable
right.
E
No,
but
once
the
new
changes
are
in,
we
should
be
able
to
just
replace
that
reduce
with
the
actual
thing.
So
please
take
some
time
and
tribute
this
changes,
because
we
don't
really
have
much
time
left
to
give
dotnet
enough
time,
because
we
are
getting
this
for
dotnet,
5
and
June.
We
did
which
is
like
this
week
next
week,
is
the
last
time
when
we
can
have
like
any
serious
changes,
behavior
changes
or
APA
changes
in
the
top
notch,
but
fixes
and
everything
it
can
still
happen
even
down
the
line.
E
But
if
there
are
anything
significant
which
we
are
missing
and
this
we
need
support
from
the
dotnet.
Please
make
sure
it's
in
order
to
make.
Please
raise
a
comment
in
this
design
issue.
It's
opened
in
the.net
rapport,
but
I
have
put
the
link
in
the
page
ender
here.
So
that
concludes
my
update
on
span
2
activity.
E
Yeah
I
mean
it's
still
on
me
to
post
the
comparison
between
span
and
activity
so
that
we
can
start
discussing
it
in
the
next
meeting
like
how.
How
close?
How
confident
are
we
about
removing
and
replacing
one
with
another
confident?
Are
we
or
how
much
necessity?
We
need,
for
the
fingerprint,
pretty
sure,
like
most
people
agree
that
be
differently
nearly
rougher.
E
You
cannot
just
use
activity,
but
let's
discuss
it
when
I
have
the
actual
dog
comparing
to
ABS
side
by
side
and
I
have
few
smaller
items
which
can
just
ask
here
like
there
is
one
code
which
is
called
login
tracer,
it's
an
implementation
which
just
logs
everything
into
console
like
every
spans,
with
the
time
and
ID
to
the
console.
So
since
we
already
have
a
console
activity,
exporter
I
don't
really
see
any
reason
why
we
have
it.
It's
probably
something
which
was
added
like
very
early
stage.
D
E
So
I
will
do
some
peer
to
remove
it,
and
peace
do
have
two
other
things
to
talk
about.
One
was
Zee
pages,
so
suggested
it's
going
to
be
part
of
the
official
spec,
so
every
report
will
be
required
to
how
Z
pages
export
or,
as
part
of
the
official
supported
exporter.
We
have
a
very
basic
question
of
Z
pages
exporter.
Unfortunately,
it
doesn't
help
us
so
I.
Don't
really
feel
confident
of
changing
it
from
Spain
to
activity.
E
D
B
D
E
D
It
was
a
Google
intern,
originally
added
la
ciencia,
FinCEN
originated
by
X
bar
I,
don't
know
if
Esther
will
continue
working
up
or
there
are
going
to
be
a
Google,
intense,
okay,
offering
additional
acts.
I
support
for
this,
so
yeah
I
agree
that
we
need
to
add
tests
for
whether
we
keep
or
not.
Okay,.
E
Good
yeah
and
the
second
one
is:
there
are
two
a
show
specific
exporters
in
the
repo
I
think
it
was
added
like
in
the
very
early
stage,
because
of
you
are
working
very
closely
with
some
of
the
issue
SDKs
and
we
wanted
to
see
whether
things
are
walking
into
inch,
but
the
bad
news
is
that
I've
noticed.
So,
even
though
I
change
the
show
specific
want
to
use
activity,
I
couldn't
really
test
it.
There
was
no
test
cases.
Also
one
option
is
we
don't
really
want
the
manger
or
to
contain
anything
kind
of
specific?
E
So
this
is
like
really
specific
to
Microsoft
I
sure,
so
my
proposal
would
be
to
remove
it
from
in
Drupal
and
put
it
into
the
contra
prefer
where
we
have
like
somewhat
window
specific
things
like
the
Google
stackdriver.
So
if
there
are
no
objections,
I
will
go
ahead,
delete
it
from
the
main
report
put
it
in
the
contrary,
but
I
won't
add
it
in
the
contraband
till
I
figure
out
the
unit
test
because
test
it's
kind
of
pointless.
D
D
G
D
E
D
E
E
D
E
With
it,
yes,
there's
a
very
good
chance
that
we
wouldn't
need
this,
because,
if
I
sure,
as
teachers
are
going
to
use
the
activity
source
directly,
then
there
will
be
no
need
of
any
specific
collectives.
It
will
just
work
out
of
the
works,
but
that's
on
me
to
figure
out
I
know
some
folks
from
Asia
who
are
working
on
this
injustice
case
with
them
and
see
what
are
their
points.
Yeah.
E
B
When,
when
additional
information
from
the
back
sick
meeting
this
morning,
so
in
general,
the
guidance
is
for
winter
specific
thing,
we
need
to
move
away
from
the
the
memory
paw.
However,
there
are
certain
thing,
I
think
like
we're
walking
on
like
we
spoke,
then
a
few
other
folks
to
see
if
that
makes
sense
to
put
in
the
memory
pool,
and
currently
the
thinking
is
for
the
propagator
freedom
hole
if
it's
like
AWS,
probably
get
her
or
the
GCP
propagator
or
like
either
propagator.
B
That
thing
might
be
interesting,
so
we
put
in
the
memory
and
the
motivation
number
one
is
those
things
are
most
like
a
golden
standard
for
cloud
services.
Number
two
is
even
if
you
don't
do
anything
specific
about
this,
but
if
you
have
nothing
deployed
on
GCP
but
you're,
building
a
service
that
has
to
interact
with
services
running
into
CP
and
you
have
to
in
turn
intercept
those
HTTP
headers.
Putting
that
in
open
country
gives
you
the
additional
benefit,
given
that
amount
of
work
is
not
too
big.
B
So
this
is
something
I
need,
whoa,
Chris,
Bolton
and
more
than
to
expect
that
out,
but
currently
I
think
these
are
the
only
vendor
specific
thing
we
might
need
to
put
in
this
master
Rico
and
the
agreement
is
even
if
we
pull
this
in
the
repo.
It
has
to
be
a
separate
propagator
package
not
going
to
be
part
of
the
core
SDK.
B
B
E
That's
pretty
much
my
updates.
If
anyone
has
open
topics
to
discuss,
we
can
use
the
rest
of
the
time
to
do
that
or
if
you
want
me
to
like
discuss
anything
or
any
issue,
I
can
do
that
yeah.
It's
open
time.
We
don't
have
polar
joining,
but
if
there
are
any
updates
on
auto
instrumentation
I
will
be
happy
to
listen,
but
I
don't
have
any
update
from
my
said
and
like
me,
hailed
from
Microsoft
is
not
in
s
well,
so.
G
So
I'm
reading
today,
one
issue
1595,
the
central
Microsoft,
is
no
longer
aiding
further
integration
into
US
children.
What
is
the
strategy
so
up
inside
the
key
is
going
away.
If
so,
is
there
any
rough
idea
on
the
timeline?
So
what
is
the
strategy
of
setting
the
specific
SDK
implementation
is
a
standard
like
for
sdk-based
collection?
Yes,.
E
So
this
this
is
being
planned
for
the
next
semester,
like
where
application
sites
will
continue
to
work
and
be
supported
for
quite
a
long
time
like
the
next
version
like
next
major
version
will
start
supporting
signals
from
open
telemetry
as
well.
So,
for
example,
if
open
telemetry
has
a
way
to
collect
Redis
calls
or
MongoDB
course
we
can
use
opened
elementary
to
collect
it
and
how
it
how
it
exported
to
application
insights
without
investing
in
a
instrumentation
adapter
for
MongoDB
or
readies
in
the
application
insights
itself.
But
this
is
supporting.
E
Yeah
I
don't
think
we
have
ever
figured
out
the
Excite
plant
for
application
in,
say
it's
a
safe
product.
It
will
be
most
likely,
it'll
be
transparent
for
the
users,
users
just
keep
updating
from
one
version
to
another
and
underneath
we
would
probably
use
an
open,
telemetry,
collector
or
something
else,
but
that
part
is
not
yet
figured
out
and.
G
G
G
I
We
have
obviously
we
have
our
existing
agent
technology.
Does
this
colas
attached,
but
we
are
also
interested
in
contributing
here
and
open
telemetry
and
we're
definitely
interested
in
following
the
the
space
here
for
what
goes
on.
You
know
in
the
kind
of
the
approach
going
forward
for
the
auto
instrumentation
and
I'm
working
on
on
my
side
to
actually
kind
of
prioritize
some
some
resources
to
be
able
to
have
some
time
to
contribute
to
this
as
well.
J
I
arrived
a
bit
late
and
had
some
things
in
parallel,
while
the
menials
going
so
I
probably
missed
some
part
but
Greg
if
you
wanna
any
these
kind
of
conversations
about
the
auto
cementation
is
the
thing
that
I
think
in
about
a
few
weeks.
I'm
really
wanted
educate
myself.
If
we
kind
of
have
some
more
concrete
plans
about
what
we're
gonna
do,
I'm
going
to
try
to
do
some
prototype
about
the
stuff
that
no
we're
talking
about.
But
that
is
a
side
thing.
You
know
kind
of
I.
J
G
Think
for
Microsoft
virtue
and
the
streams
that
are
both
important,
but
they
separate
that
one
is
the
long
term
bytecode
instrumentation
improvements
coming
from
the
dead
of
night
team
and
the
other
is
the
need
to
collect
data
today
as
soon
as
possible
and
I
think
what
we
and
slugs
problem
in
the
same
spot
right.
Yes,
yes,
yes,.
G
G
E
E
So
just
go
and
take
a
look
at
it
see
if
it
addresses
the
scenarios
which
were
previously
and
let
them
know
as
soon
as
possible-
and
hopefully
we
can
take
use
the
next
week
to
discuss
more
about
the
activity
spent
changes
once
we
have
pretty
much
everything
done
and
I
have
the
bailout
which
compared
body
piece
right,
yeah.
If
there
are
no
updates
here,
we
can
all
leave.