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True
yeah
I
mean
I,
I
brought
a
suitcase
of
of
pickles
from
germany,
so
there
I
can
find
pickles
quite
easily.
I
mean
you
know
from
yes.
B
It's
not
the
same
amazon.
It's
like
brazilian
amazon,
okay,.
B
B
A
D
Good
apologies
for
the
short
notice
I
had
sent
I'd
asked
the
shopify
people
like
francis,
like
I
asked
him
like
a
month
ago,
like
hey.
C
D
D
Late
notice,
they
were
able
to
get
everyone
together
to
present
on
much
shorter
notice
than
I
think
that
we
expected,
which
is
great
anyways.
It.
D
Effective
wrote
up
a
full
set
of
notes
in
the
meeting
note
stock
and
this
one
they
were
okay,
if
it
being
recorded.
So
it's
just
gonna
be
posted
on
youtube.
It's
just
another
normal
hotel
meeting.
A
Awesome
awesome
I
mean
I,
I
have
the
github
interview
also
because
I
I
you
know
I
would.
I
had
hosted
the
zoom
at
that
time,
so
I
can
definitely
should
I
just
send
it
to
you.
Morgan
or
I.
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A
Take
a
look
at
it.
Definitely
all
right
awesome,
I
think
we
still
don't
have
quorum
though,
and
ben
is
out,
as
he
said,
on,
the
chat
is
daniel,
joining.
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A
A
Yes,
exactly
we
are
definitely
heading
there,
but
maybe
we
can
just
quickly
talk
about
kubecon.
I
think
yeah,
I'm
I'm
the
tractor
for
the
interop
and
observability
sessions
so.
C
A
You
know
so
so
again,
I've
been
working
with
you
know
like
getting
the
program
and
stuff
you
know
finalized,
but
just
wondering
if
we
wanted
to
do.
You
know
additional
activities
around
hotel
at
the
at
cubecon,
which
we
should
start
thinking
about.
I
mean
at
least
because
it's
cute
october
right
so
about
three
months.
D
Yes,
I
agree,
so,
let's
think
so,
there's
there's
various
sessions
that
I
hope
might
be
approved
for
for
talks.
There's
the
maintainers
track,
one
we
put
in
the
submission
for
that
as
usual,
it's
more
of
like
a
tv
like.
D
A
submission
in
so
we
should
get
it.
Yes,
I
assume
that
they'll
have
meeting
room
space
available
like
they
did
in
valencia
and
that's
my.
D
D
Most
useful
was
just
the
four
hours
of
like
the
medium-sized
meeting.
Room
large
would
be
better.
D
As
for
the
maintainers
one,
I
assume
we'll
have
it,
we
should
figure
out
how
we
want
to
use
it.
I
just
slapped
down
the
names
of
like
a
bunch
of
gc
members.
I
think
the
same
people
who
run
it
in
valencia,
okay,
but
but
like
we
should
figure
out
how
we
actually
want
to
use
that.
D
B
So
who's
going
to
request
the
meeting
room
for
hotel
for
for.
D
Typically,
they
reach
out
to
us
it's
just
closer
towards
the
conference.
Wait
they
reached
out
about
the
meeting
room.
They.
B
Interest
form-
and
I
assume
that's
the
one
and
what
what
what
tin
is
saying,
is
we'll
host
a
hybrid
event
taking
place
blah
blah.
B
D
Yeah,
hang
on
it
had
a
different
title
than
I
expected.
The
email.
C
A
D
A
Yes,
that's
interesting,
I
didn't
see
it
so
maybe
my
email.
D
C
C
D
That'd
be
worth
more
cool
and
then
so
how
do
we
actually.
D
D
Okay,
we
want
an
in-person
kiosk.
I
assume
we
want
pr
support
and
we
want
a
four
hour
meeting
room.
D
Indicate
the
type
of
kiosk
we
would
like
the
full
showcase
hours.
I
assume,
what's
that
you
can
either
get
the
kiosk
for
like
mornings
or
afternoons
or
both
last
time.
We
had
afternoons
only
and
it
was
annoying
because
in
the
mornings
it
would
be
a
different
group,
and
so
people
would
show
up
apparently
in
the
morning
looking
for
open
telemetry
wasn't
there.
B
Okay-
and
I
I'm
I'm
very
likely
to
attend
so
I
can
commit
I
I'll.
A
D
A
D
A
B
And
how
about
marketing
material
like,
like
you
know,
t-shirt,
socks
or
or
stickers,
at
least.
A
D
B
D
I
went
and
got
them
from
the
grafana
booth.
If
I
remember
correctly,
okay,
but
yes,
we
have
them
yeah,
we
had
them
and
we
gave
them
out.
D
B
Right
so
I
guess
the
question
is:
do
we
need
more?
Should
I
request
more
to
the
refund
folks
yeah.
D
A
Yes,
let's
those
cool
stickers
from
honeycomb.
D
B
How
does
it
work
with
the
booklets?
Should
we
request
it
to
o'reilly,
I
suppose,
or
the.
B
A
That
is
ted
o'reilly
yeah
and
nothing.
C
A
Cool
very
cool
anything
else
we
wanted
to
cover.
There's.
A
C
Basically,
I
vigorously
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
I
vigorously
defended
her
trademark
and
said,
like
you
know,
you're
not
going
to
call
an
event
hotel
unless
it's
like
buying
for
the
old
hill
community,
but
I
think
we
landed
in
a
good
place.
The
upshot
is,
we
would
like
to
start
on
a
series
on
that's
kind
of
similar
to
the
end
user
working
group,
except
for
instead
of
being
a
avenue
for
people
to
give
us
feedback.
C
It
is
a
kind
of
we
want
to
do
kind
of
regular
teaching
webinars
on
behalf
of
the
hotel
community,
we're
volunteering
to
host
the
first
one,
but
we're
not
going
to
do
legion
or
anything.
We
just
want
to
offer
this
as
a
resource.
Given
we've
seen
people
repeatedly
struggling
with
the
collector,
and
we
have
some
ideas
of
future
topics
in
case
people
are
interested
in
good.
C
So
basically
saying
like
you
know,
is
it
okay,
that
you
know
we're
using
the
hotel
name
for
this?
I
think
the
answer
is
yes,
assuming
that
you
know
the
gc
says
you
know
yes,
this
is
a
thing
that
we're
comfortable.
A
Is
this
going
to
be?
Is
this
meetup
or
this
event
series
going
to
be
called
hotel
and
practice
open
television.
C
C
A
Yeah
I
mean
again,
I
think
the
open
telemetry
usage
is
the
linux
foundation,
the
linux
foundation
or
cncf
guidelines
right
as
long
as
it
meets
that
I
don't
think,
there's
any
issue.
A
C
But
in
this
case
you
know,
we
think
that
this
is
something
we
want
to
do
actually
in
a
community
vendor
neutral
fashion.
So
you
know
saying
like
hey:
if
we
start
doing
this,
like
will
other
people
join
in?
I.
A
Mean
the
interesting
thing
is
and
again
just
wanted
to
kind
of
brainstorm
a
bit
as
a
team.
Here
is
that
you
know
so.
There
are
several
vendors
doing
this
now
right
there
is
dyna
trace.
There
is
a
you
know:
log
xio
there
is,
you
know,
light
stab
honeycomb
looking
at
it
now.
So
the
question
is,
you
know:
is
there
value
in
thinking
through
you
know,
from
a
project
standpoint
that
there
is
not.
A
There
is
a
unified
message
of
some
sort.
Because
again
you
know
these
are
all
different
vendors
who
participate
on
the
project,
and
you
know
again
we
invest
in
advocacy
and
education
right.
So
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
communicate
better
as
a
project,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
hard
to
measure?
A
How
much
of
it
is
you
know
vendor
driven
and
how
much
of
it
is
really
coming
back
to
the
project
in
terms
of
contributions
or
participation
from
end
users,
or
you
know
just
plain:
you
know
work
on
the
project
itself.
C
B
And
this
is
something
that
ties
back
to
what
was
discussed
earlier
today
with
the
shopify
folks.
So
at
one
point
I
forgot
his
name,
but
he
mentioned
that.
You
know
one
thing
that
they
wanted
is
better
documentation
and
better
materials
for
learning,
open,
telemetry
and
morgan
than
than
I
think
it
was
morgan
that
and
asked
so
what?
What
sort
of
material
are
you
looking
for
and
they
said
coursera,
so
something
that
you
just
click
through
and
you
learn
things
so
you
know
that's.
So
I
think
this
is
valid.
B
It's
valid
to
have
it
as
a
as
part
of
the
project
and
not
posted
by
some
vendor,
because
you
know
when
I
I
don't
know,
perhaps
I'm
biased,
but
when
I'm
reading
something
from
a
vendor's
website.
I
know
they're
trying
to
sell
me
something.
B
I
know
that
you
know
the
exporter
that
is
going
to
be
used
is
today
or
services
and-
and
you
know
that's
fine,
but
is
that
the
question
and
then
remind
remains
with
me,
is:
am
I
learning
everything
that
there
is
to
know
or
only
what
this
vendor
is
trying
to
to
teach
me?
You
know,
or
you
know.
C
A
Right
right,
because
I
mean
it
seems
like
it's.
Obviously,
a
hotel
is
a
very
popular
topic
right,
an
and
and
a
very
popular
way
to
kind
of
attract
attention
to,
and-
and
I
think
that,
right
now
at
least
we're
in
the
stage
where
a
lot
of
these
different
advocacy
outreach.
A
You
know
education
initiatives
are
being
spun
up,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
like
even
for
kubernetes.
If
you
were
to
take
an
example,
where
do
I
go
for
technical
documentation
and
actual
use
case
implementations?
A
And
I
come
back
to
the
project
right
so
so
we
as
a
project
gc,
at
least
we
need
to
think
about.
You
know
what
the
balance
is
there
and
it's
nothing
to
do
liz
actually,
specifically
with
honeycombs
proposal.
Actually
it's
more
the
larger
discussion
that
yeah.
A
Right
so
I
mean
you
know,
the
point
is
that
it's
the
same
thing
as
certification.
Right
I
mean
it's
like
hey.
You
know
you're
welcome
to
do
these
all
part
as
part
of
the
project,
because
it
really
helps
the
project
and
being
able
to
be
a
good
source
of
you
know,
going
and
learning
and
and
participating,
but
I
think
that
that
there's
some
looseness
there
right
now
and
which
is
fine-
I
mean
you
know,
but
on
the
other
hand,
also
some
consistency
would
be
good.
A
C
General,
I
will
tell
my
team,
like
you
know:
yes,
let's
go
ahead.
We
have
this
documented
now,
so
that
we
we
can
like
file
some
full
requests
to
say
that
this
is
an
upcoming
event
and
yeah.
A
Liz
will
you
also
file
a
issue
on
community
to
just,
I
think
everyone
should.
I
mean
whoever's:
oh
yeah,
a
tracking
issue,
yep
candy
yeah
yeah,
because
it's
good
to
you
know
kind
of
go
call
this
out.
This
is
a
good
idea.
A
D
We
move
on,
I
noticed
just
randomly
because
I
clicked
the
wrong
button
this
morning,
because
I
was
on
the
wrong
slack
thing
that
I
noticed
sarah
and
constance
are
still
on
the
hotel
gc
slack
channel.
Should
I
room.
D
A
Even
I
don't
have
you,
where
do
you
do?
I
don't
know
who
has.
D
A
A
Yes,
so
there
is
a
discussion
that
I
wanted
to
just
bring
to
everybody's
attention
about
a
meet-up.
You
know
actual
physical
meetup
being
hosted
regularly
in
the
bay
area,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
you
know
a
lot
of
the
teams
as
well.
A
As
you
know,
a
lot
of
interest
from
engineers
in
being
able
to
discuss
open,
telemetry
topics
you
know
face
to
face,
so
just
wondering
you
know,
should
we
just
file
a
proposal,
because
this
will
just
be
a
meet
up
and
what's
the
thinking
from
the
project
to
be
able
to
do
this,
because,
obviously
you
know
different
contributors
from
different
vendors,
obviously
will
can
present
as
well
as
otherwise
right.
So
it's
it's
the
same
thing
again.
A
You
know
like
if
you're
using
a
meetup
for
not
only
you
know,
converging
the
end
user
community,
but
also
at
the
same
time,
sharing
technical
implementation.
You
know
details
and
walkthroughs.
A
Definitely
the
bay
area
is
starting
to,
you
know,
do
start
doing
face-to-face
meetups.
So
again,
a
couple
of
vendors,
at
least
you
know
especto
and
the
logs
I
think,
reached
out,
and
I'm
sure
that
you
know
again
is
this
an
idea
that
we
should
pursue.
Or
what
do
you
think.
A
Yeah
because
I
mean
I
think
that
would
be
good
for
you
know
again,
everybody
to
kind
of
also
have
and
venue
in
the
bay
area
to
participate
right.
So
so
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
take
an
action
item
on
putting
together
a
proposal
just
as
liz
did
you
know
to
kind
of
itemize
what
we
want
to
cover
and
how
this
would
be
held.
A
I
think
that
in
the
past,
my
just
from
hearsay,
my
understanding
is
that
meetups
have
been
not
encouraged
with
the
specific
project
name
in
from
cncf,
but
we
can
find
out
more
about
it
right.
C
A
C
Exactly
exactly
yes,
if
we
think
that
you
know
the
people
who
are
running
to
meet
up
we're
members
of
our
community
great.
A
Okay,
I
think,
did
we
cover
all
our
things,
all
right,
yeah,
and
I
think
I
had
the
only
other
thing
I
had
already
mentioned
that
I
will
be
sharing
the
uploading,
the
github
recording
on
just
the
google
drive
and
then
folks
can
just
we
can
just
is
there
a
shared
drive
more
than
where
we
can
upload
the
customer
sessions
is?
Does
the
project
have
a
google
drive
account
that
we
can
use.
A
A
A
A
Exactly
okay,
so
I'll
I'll
bring
amy
and
just
ask
and
see
where
you
know.
If
you
can
get
some
comments.
B
So
a
question
on
on
that:
is
it
private
private
like?
Is
it
for
our
eyes?
Only
the
github
presentation,
or
I.
B
D
D
I
don't
know
if
they
had
an
issue.
I
assume
it
was
fine
to
be
shared
around
within
the
like
community
privately,
but
I'm
not
the
person
to.
I
don't
know
that
for
a
fact.
A
I
I
don't
know,
because
we
didn't
have
anything
signed
off
from
them,
for
who.