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A
B
B
Yeah,
it
is,
and
I
can
order
my
my
meals
at
the
restaurant
in
check
as
well.
So
I
oh
really,
I.
A
A
That's
cool:
I'm
I'm
like
maybe
competent
enough
in
german
to
like
get
a
train
ticket
somewhere,
maybe
and
probably
some
food,
but
that's
about
it.
You.
B
Nice
yeah,
but
you
know
it
is
kind
of
usual
to
see
people
going
to
berlin
to
learn
english
yeah.
It's
cheaper
than
london
and
people
do
have
quite
good
english
in
there
and
very
good
english
schools.
So
yeah.
A
I
did
an
experience
when
I
was
last
in
berlin,
which
is
probably
like
2018
or
something
it's
actually
for
like
a
tracing
workshop.
I
can't
remember
when
that
a
few
I
think
yuri
were
either.
I
can't
remember,
there's
some
one
of
those
like
things
that
adrian
used
to
organize
in
berlin,
but
I
would
like
walk
into
cafes
and
before
I
even
open
my
mouth,
they
just
speak
to
me
in
english.
It
wasn't
like
in
the
next
convention
center
I
was
like.
A
B
Perhaps
perhaps
the
waiter
just
didn't
speak
german
themselves.
B
D
Yeah,
I
can,
I
can
quickly
go
through
this,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
you
know,
follow
up
on
the
decision
that
we
had
taken
earlier
this
year
of
you
know
again
assessing
who
are
active
contributors
every
quarter
and
also
you
know
the
t.
D
The
projects,
the
project,
repos
and
maintainers
have
been
doing
a
good
job
of
you
know,
kind
of
checking
for
activity
from
different
contributors,
and
you
know
moving
them
to
emeritus
status,
as,
as
you
know,
folks
may
not
have
been
active
in
a
specific
repo
for
a
particular
period
of
time,
but
I
think
it's
also
that
I
would
request
the
gc
to
kind
of
take
an
active
assessment.
D
You
know
every
quarter
or
or
you
know,
maybe
ask
the
tc
to
take
an
assessment
where,
if
there
is
an
imbalance
or
a
lack
of
active
contributors,
we
address
that
we
actually
actively
go
and
leverage.
You
know
the
kubecon
that
is
coming
up.
D
You
know
later
in
six
weeks
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
more
folks
to
get
more
actively
involved
and
continue
to.
You
know,
keep
growing
our
contributorship
right.
Because
again,
I
think
we
go
through
ebbs
and
tides,
and
and
it's
it's
just
something
that
I
think
we
do
need
to
be
very
aware
of
as
such
a
large
project.
D
D
Any
thoughts
or
comments
I
mean
daniel.
I
know
you
have
you
know
seen
surges
as
well.
As
you
know,
contributors,
you
know
very
few
contributors
that
are
often
on
on
js,
for
example,
so
any
thoughts
in
those
areas,
especially
as
we
go
into
the
logging
you
know,
addressing
the
logging
functionality
on
the
project,
yeah.
C
D
C
I
think,
and
I
can
really
only
speak
for
js,
I
feel
like
we
have
a
healthy
number
of
contributors.
That's
not
necessarily
a
problem.
The
biggest
problem
that
I
see
is
particularly
with
metrics
a
lot
of
the
contributors.
Just
don't
feel
that
comfortable
working
with
the
metrics
sdk,
because
it's
quite
complex
and
it's
it's
just
not
easy
to
onboard,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
them
just
view
it
as
this
is
being
handled
by
someone
else
which.
D
C
Many
cases
it
is
that
just
slows
it
down
yeah
most
people
tend
to
be,
if
not
experts,
then
at
least
comfortable
within
the
tracing
sdk.
More
than
anything,
I
believe
logging
will
be
significantly
easier
to
get
people
to
contribute
to
than
metrics
was.
D
Yes-
and
I
I
think
that
that
you
have
to
bring
a
very
good
point
daniel,
because
I
think
that
many
of
the
other
language
apis
have
also
language
communities
have
also
seen
that
same
issue,
because
there
were
a
lot
of
you
know
maintainers,
who
have
come
to
the
project,
who
are
actually
tracing
experts
or
have
done
tracing.
D
You
know
for
a
long
time
and
are
very
very
familiar
with
it
with
implementations
or
you
know
other
existing
projects,
because
we
have
the
benefit
of
you
know:
projects
such
as
jaeger,
yoshikin,
open
tracing,
you
know
and
other
major
projects
who
have
existed
and
supported
us,
but
I
think
in
the
metric
sphere,
it
is
important
for
us
to
have
that
expertise
in
depth.
Also
because
metrics
is
a
key
part
of
you
know
how
end
users
are
using
these
projects,
especially
hotel,
and
so
is
logging
right.
D
So
I
do
think
that
we
do
need
to
be
aware
of
that,
because
I
think
that
there
is
a
especially
you
know,
as
one
of
our
charters
should
consider-
and
this
might
be
something
we
look
at
next
year
as
a
project
is
that
you
know
how
much
integration
do
we
love?
Would
we
love
to
have
with
the
kubernetes,
because
it's
such
a
major
platform
right,
I
mean
you,
know,
tracing
and
hotel
is
supported
out
of
the
box
for
kubernetes
tracing
right,
but
is
metrics
the
case.
D
Not
not
really
is
you
know,
and
what
about
logging
right
and
kind
of
being
a
little
bit
more
forward
thinking
in
those
areas
and
addressing
them
right
so
just
wanted
to
call
that
out,
because
it
also
you
know,
changes
the
complexion
and
and
affects
the
complexion
of
our
contributors.
D
D
All
right
cool
and
the
only
other
second
topic
I
had
was
you
know
again.
Election
planning-
and
you
know
just
next
steps.
Just
wanting
to
bring
it
up
is
that
something
that
we
plan
to
kind
of
discuss
later
this
month.
D
Thoughts,
because
I
know
we
had
some
initial
discussions,
but
we
would
also
kind
of
like
to
get
in
group
together.
I
think
we've
talked
about
jurassic
and
some
others
getting
more
involved.
I
think
the.
C
Election
is
supposed
to
be
in
november
right,
but
we
want
to
get
it
obviously,
prepped
and
gold
significantly
at.
D
A
C
D
A
D
Yes,
I
mean
again
no
later
than
the
third
week
of
september,
but
we
should
definitely
you
know,
have
it
started
or
posted
by
september
15th.
D
If
we
can
right
so
I
mean
the
point
is
that
I
mean
I'm
up
for
re-election,
says
I
think
daniel
daniel?
Are
you
or
yeah
right.
C
D
I
mean
we,
we
cannot
actively
help
but
could
actually
help
with
communications
and
stuff
if
that's
something
that
we
can
help
with,
but
the
election
process
again
should
be
jurassic
and
and
others
who
are
not
up
for
re-election,
because
I
think
liz
is
also
up
for
re-election
and
we
were
the
folks
who
actually.
C
C
D
Because
you
know
she
actually
was
so
instrumental
in
setting
up
the
voting
system
rights.
B
D
And
and
that's
very
important
everything
else,
you
know
we
can
actually
support,
but
we
should
form
an
election
committee
of
some
sort
in
the
next
week
or
two
I
mean
at
the
most.
D
I
know
jurassic
volunteers,
I'm
I'm
pulling
your
name
up,
but
anybody
else
we
should
do
a
call
out
to
our
dc
members
to
volunteer.
I.
A
E
I
said
that
I
will
also
help
jurassic
with
the
voting
and
stuff,
but
I'm
very
bad
at
writing,
blog
posts
and
stuff.
So.
D
E
The
blog
post
should
be,
it
should
be,
we
can,
we
can
have
if
you,
if
you
have
a
google
docs
or
something
we
can.
D
Yeah
I'll
share
a
google
doc
I'll
I'll
I'll.
Take
an
action
item
to
you
know,
put
a
blog
post
together
and
then
you
guys
can
you
know,
go
at
it,
but.
E
Yeah,
so
so
we
need
so
immediately.
We
need
a
blog
post.
We
need
to
call
for
candidates,
we
need
to
set
up
the
the
directory
and
stuff
into
the
into
the
repository,
so
the
candidates
can
put
their
election
like
the
the
yeah.
Did
they
see
there
and
anything
else
that
we
need
to
do
in
the
next
week?.
D
D
Two
steps
and
then
we
have
a
pretty
simple
process,
so
maybe
daniel
you
and
I
can
walk
through
the
rest
of
these
parts
with
gerasi
and
bogdan,
but
we
do
need
one
more
person
ben.
Do
you
want
to
oversee,
or
do
you
want
to
assign
somebody
or
yuri?
Do
you
have
some
bandwidth.
A
This
way,
I'm
happy
to
do
anything
where
someone's
telling
me
what
to
do.
If
someone
is
willing
to
be
the
teller,
I'm
fine.
A
A
D
A
B
D
Exactly
so,
that's
why
we
wanted
to
kind
of
do
an
onboarding
session,
at
least
to
share
our
knowledge
from
having
done
the
past
two
elections
and
and
we
can
set
up
some
time
next
week.
You
know
30
minutes
is
enough
daniel,
maybe
you-
and
I
can
just
you
know,
do
it
and
walk
you
guys.
D
Sounds
good
all
right
cool,
I
think
anything
else
and
and
ben
over
to
you.
Sorry
bogdan
did
you
have
a
question?
I.
D
A
Soon,
he's
he's
just
like
basically
took
two
or
three
months
to
just
travel
and
stuff,
like
that.
A
A
Yeah
that
jerk
yeah
yeah
before
he
he's
yeah,
he
was
excited,
but
he
should
be
back
and
you
know
going
sort
of
back
to
status
quo
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
E
E
I
I
was
reading
that
document.
Then
we
need
to
create
one.
I
will
do
I'll,
take
the
action
item
to
create
a
directory
and
a
document
like
that
for
the
2022
and
then
set
up
the
the
repository,
the
community
repository
with
all
of
these
things
and
then
and
then
we
can
do
the
blog
posts
and
other
stuff.
So.
D
B
About
we,
how
would
we
do
it
a
little
bit
differently?
So
let
me
do
it
because
I
make
you
know
the
process
already,
so
I
let
me
learn
how
to
do
it
and
then
knowledge
is
more
spread.
I
guess.
B
We've
been
part
of
the
of
the
governance
board.
B
No
I'm
really
interested
in
knowing
how
to
do
it
and
so
ben
just
sent
a
link
here.
I
have
seen
it,
but
I
I
yeah
it
wasn't
on
my
internet.
E
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
mean
we'll
have
to
get
liz
to
give
us
a
walkthrough
of
sieves.
So
that's
another
onboarding
session,
all
right.
A
A
Helios
it
has,
I
did
the
sentence
in
2020
pre-helios
existing
and
that
was
horrible.
So
from
just
an
email
just
because
we
had,
we
didn't
have
email
addresses,
yeah.
A
This
last
I
put
it
in
the
dock,
not
in
the
zoom
chat,
but
this
there's
a
an
issue
need
to
hold
the
2021
gc
election,
that's
kind
of
the
skeleton
key
to
understanding
everything
that
happened.
At
least
that
was
public.
So
you
know
you
can
look
at
that,
although
a
fair
warning
that
it
begins
in
august
2021,
so
we're
you
know
kind
of
behind
schedule,
and
that
was
for
an
even
later
election
yeah.
D
Yeah,
I
think,
we'll
catch
up,
though
I
mean
it's
again:
we
we
have
all.
We
simplified
the
process
of
fair
bit
last
year
as
daniel
and
I
went
through
it
with
liz.
So
definitely
so
I'll
try
to
set
up
an
onboarding
session
for
monday
or
tuesday.
If
that
works
and
I'll
just
bring
you
guys
on
slack,
and
we
can
record
it.
B
The
only
concern
that
I
have
is
you
know
not
having
enough
time
for
people
to
get
aware
of
the
election
and
apply
for
the
election,
and
if
you
all
think
that
it
is
enough
time
to
hold
an
election
on,
I
think
october
15th,
you
said
then
then
that's
fine.
I
I
can't
judge
on
that.
So.
D
I
have
a
question
there,
though,
because
kubecon
is
from
october
24th
through
28th,
so
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
be
doing
an
election
right
before.
Should
we
just
do
it
right
after
or
or
you
know,
I
mean
what
is
the
deadline
for
october?
That's
the
bigger
question
like
why
october
15th
ben,
do
you
know
historically
what
the
I.
E
15
is
because
we
try
to
keep
the
three
years
and
now
going
from
october
15
to
it
does
not.
I
mean
we
can
do
an
exception
for
two
weeks.
It's
not
the
problem
with
that
doing
that
november.
First
or
something
like
that,
it's
also
okay-ish,
I
think,
but
let's,
let's
maybe
maybe
start
in
the
slack.
Let's
have
yeah.
E
Let's
have
two
proposals
with
the
schedule
jurassic
if
you
wanna
do
that
to
propose
one
that
the
voting
is
before
kubecon,
the
other
one,
that
the
voting
is
after
coupon
and
let's
see
how
we
feel
about
that.
A
I
think
I'm
remembering
not
that
it
really
matters.
I
mean
the
the
two-year
thing
doesn't
have
to
be
super
precise
in
my
mind
right,
so
I
don't
really
care
that
much
about
that
piece.
But
although
that
has
something
to
do
with,
I
think
that
number
15
thing
was
actually
laid
to
kubecon.
But
if
you
look
into
2020
kubecon,
I
believe
was
like
closer
to
thanksgiving.
It
was
in
like
late
november
or
something
like
that,
and
so
I
think
the
idea
was
let's
hold
the
election.
A
Have
the
results
allow
the
new
gc
to
meet
and
greet
or
whatever,
and
then
at
kubecon
you
know
like?
Maybe
we
could
chat,
but
then,
of
course,
by
the
time
2020
rolled
around
it
was
coveted
and
like
it
made
no
sense
anyway,
but
but
I
think
it
had
to
do
with
like
vaguely
think
it
was
like
kind
of
try
to
make
sure
the
election
is
settled
before
kubecon.
But
in
this
case
you
know
it
was
too
late
for
that.
A
So
I
don't
personally
care
very
much
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
risk
that
there
will
be
like
some
because
without
campaigning
electioneering
campaign,
but
I
mean
I
suppose
it
is
an
election.
It's
all
fair
or
something
but
yeah
I
mean
kubecon
is
you
know
people
will
be
holding
signs
outside?
You
know
like
that
is
cool.
D
But
but
again
I
think
that
that's,
let's
take
a
call
on
the
dates
by
next
week.
I
think,
and-
and
we
can
be-
I
think
we
can
just
run
with
whatever
works.
A
B
All
right,
so
the
the
proposals
wouldn't
be
october,
19th
or
something
like
that
like
on
wednesday,
and
that
is
the
week
before
kubecon
and
the
other
proposal
wouldn't
be
the
wednesday
after
uconn,
which
is
november,
2nd,
I'm
just
trying
wednesday,
because
you
know
before
and
after
kubecon
being
on
a
friday
or
a
monday.
It's
probably
bad,
because
people
would
be
traveling.
E
Yeah,
it's
also
mid
of
the
day
middle
of
the
week
for
and
friday,
maybe
saturday
in
some
parts
and
stuff-
let's,
let's
make
sure
it's
middle
of
the
week.
So
it's
a
week
time
for
everyone
at
the
weekend,
yeah
yeah.
D
Exactly
I
mean
last
time
also,
we
did
it
in
the
weekdays
jurassic
tuesday,
thursday,
friday
yeah.
C
B
18Th
19th
and
20th
of
october,
and
the
first
second
and
third
of
november.
Those
are
the
two
options
all
right.
E
E
Yeah
yeah:
this
is
one
thing,
but
then
we
need
a
week
or
something
in
advance
for
deadline
for
the
candidate
and
stuff.
So
there
are
some
some
things
go
backwards
from
that
date.
Look
into
that
document
that
been
shared,
go
backwards
and
see
if
we
have
enough
time,
because
there
are
some
other
things
that
needs
to
happen
before
that.
So.
E
Exactly,
let's
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
time
for
for
for
things
to
happen
before
all.
B
Right
and
the
poll
wouldn't
be
for
a
broader
community
to
vote,
or
only
for
the
gce.
D
Okay,
thanks
all
right
cool.
I
think
we
have
a
plan
so
I'll.
I
will
se
I'll
open
up
a
selection
and
we'll,
let's
chat
there,
we
had
two
other
items:
did
you
want
to
quickly
ben
go
through
your
tql?
Naming,
I
think
is
that
something
that
we
should
be
voting.
Oh
no.
A
It
was
fyi,
we
talked
about
it
last
week.
I
just
created
the
issue
and
it's
just
a
psa
for
this
group
in
case
anyone
cares
about
it.
It's
not
no
need
to
discuss
it
here.
If
anything.
D
No
fair
point
absolutely,
and
the
last
issue
jurassic,
I
think,
was
the
outreachy
project
yeah.
I.
B
Okay
yeah,
so
the
deadline
for
the
project
submission
is
september
30th.
So
we
still
have
a
few
weeks,
but
no.
B
Okay,
we
have
two
projects,
two
project
proposals
as
of
right
now,
so
a
component
generator
for
the
collector
and
a
python
maintainer
added
a
project
named,
add
auto
instrumentation
support
for
the
threading
module
of
the
python
sdk.
D
D
B
Did
it
wasn't
that
crowded,
but
I'll
ask
people
again
on
slack?
Okay,
also.