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cncf-opentelemetry@cncf.io's Personal Meeting Room
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B
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Oh
yeah,
yeah
Severn
said
that
he
was
going
to
be
like
30
minutes
late,
so
I
can
run
the
meetings.
D
Yeah
well,
okay,
actually
clarify
it,
you're
a
dog
but
like
you're,
it's
like
you're,
still
you
inside
the
dog's
body
and
then
like
after
24
hours
like
you're.
Just
back
to
you
again.
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C
B
Might
have
to
edit
no
no
no
I.
C
And
there's
oh.
C
You
have
nothing
to
fear
from
your
words
if
you
have
no
concept
of
a
filter.
A
D
C
The
only
real
things
I
wanted
to
talk
about
open
until
or
not
observability
day.
Europe
should
be
coming
up
soon
and
was
hoping
that
I
guess
there's
two
things.
One
I
wanted
to
see
what
you
all
thought
of
about
doing
like
a
banner
or
something
to
try
to
get
people
to
the
cfp.
Slash
registration,
slash.
All
of
that.
Does
that
seem
something
like
something
interesting
and
sort
of
a
related
note.
C
Since
we
have
this
like
new
e-fancy
ecosystem
thing,
would
we
want
to
start
a
sort
of
events
collection
in
that
ecosystem,
where
we
can
record
these
sort
of,
like
you
know,
official
slash,
quasi-official
hotel
events,
or
at
least
the
like.
Let's
say,
official
right,
like
cncf,
are
like
very
clearly
project.
Organized
things
like
Hotel
unplugged
was.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
think,
first
of
all,
Banner
for
like
cfp
registration
yeah.
Absolutely
my
my
current
plan
was
to
like
have
the
announcement
of
the
hotel
PHP
blog,
be
that
but
like
I
feel
like
this
is
probably
more
pressing
and
there's.
B
We
can
always
have
do
things
in
the
banner.
Sometimes
yeah
I
mean
the
banner.
E
C
The
event
page
y'all
have
that
handy
I
can
get
it
for
you.
If
you
don't.
D
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E
D
Just
kind
of
offhand
are
there
like
how
many
like
how
many
things
or
submissions
are
there
already.
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E
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D
Yeah
makes
makes
sense,
so
your
your
second
question,
having
like
having
us,
be
part
of
the
ecosystem
section.
D
So
would
you
imagine
that,
like
in
the
TOC
kind
of
the
left-hand
side,
where
we
have
demo
registry
Integrations
vendors,
you
would
have
something
called
like
events,
and
it
would
just
be
like
I,
don't
know
page
with
a
bunch
of
like
whatever
the
current
event
or
set
of
events
are
and
like
here's.
Like
all
the
past
events
that
existed.
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C
B
A
D
Yeah
I
know
so
part
of
the
history
of
this
one
was
that
there
were
parts
of
this
community
repo
that
felt
like
they
could
belong
in
the
website
like
marketing
guidelines,
for
example,
like
here's,
an
I
mean
either
this
or
the
GitHub
page,
can
serve
perfectly
well
as
like
an
authoritative
Source
or
something
it
would
have
felt
that
it
was
like
felt
more
like
official
I
guess
to
be
on
the
website.
But
we
haven't
intentionally
tried
to
like
pull
everything
out
or
like
copy
everything
or
something
out
of
out
of
GitHub.
D
A
I
understand
so
my
question
is:
when
we
talk
about
the
terminology
Community,
it
seems
we
we
might
be
referring
to
three
different
things
and
I
find
it
sometimes
confusing.
So
one
thing
is
the
general
concept
Community.
It
doesn't
point
to
any
specific
community
and
the
second
one
is
a
real
Community.
It's
an
open
source,
Community
anyone
who's
willing
to
contribute
to
open
source
or
use
open
source.
The
third
Community
is
specifically
the
GitHub,
slash
open,
Telemetry
Community.
This
is
a
group
where
people
can
join.
C
Yeah
I
think
most
of
the
time
like
when
we
colloquially
use
the
word
Community
or
referring
to
the
like
the
concept
of
an
open,
Telemetry
community,
more
so
than
like
a
a
space
or
a
thing
right,
like
I'm,
a
community
maintainer,
which
means
like
this,
like
the
things
I
focus
on,
are
the
community
as
like
an
organism
or
like
as
a
as
a
living
thing
right.
It
doesn't
mean
I'm.
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C
Yeah,
but
when
you
become
a
member
you're
like
it's
one
of
those
things
where
the
word
is
overloaded,
right,
like
you
have
to,
if
you
want
to
become
a
you
know,
approver,
then
you
need
to
become
a
Community
member,
but
we're
using
the
word
Community
member
like
in
two
different
ways.
At
the
same
time
right
it
means
you
need
to
come
to
the
community,
repo
and
post
your
issue
to
like
be
added
to
the
organization
to
the
GitHub
organization,
but
it's
also
like
you're
becoming
part
of
the
community
of
open
Telemetry
contributors.
A
Sorry,
I'm
I'm
confused,
so
here
the
the
title
says:
Community
membership
and
the
lowest
level
is
a
member.
So
if
people
don't
join
this
they're
not
considered
as
open
television,
Community
member,
that's
my
understanding,
maybe
I'm
more
from
a
developer
perspective.
So
when
someone
come
and
they're
saying,
hey,
I
cannot
even
tag
something.
My
question
is:
are
you
a
Community
member
or
not?
A
C
B
You
have
your
hand
up
yeah,
so
we
we
are
indeed
talking
about
two
specific
Concepts
and
it
is
common
for
open
source
projects
to
have
a
community
entry
in
the
top
nav,
and
it's
it's
meant
in
an
in
General
sense
of
community.
B
In
this
case,
you
are
talking
specifically
about
a
group
that
is
recognized
in
GitHub
that
I
guess
it
makes
sense
to
to
use
this.
It
may
make
sense
to
use
the
same
term
Community
membership,
but.
C
B
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E
B
C
Like
all
of
like
Americans
are
part
of
a
community
right
like
even
if
we
don't
necessarily
like
we
are
like
Philip
and
I
are
part
of
the
community.
Philip
and
I
are
part
of
the
community
of
citizens
of
America
of
America.
Right
now,
we're
not
like
officially
I
mean
I
guess.
This
is
actually
a
bad
example,
because
we
are
both
voters
but
like
we're
not
part
of
the
governance
structure
of
America
right,
like
we
don't
get
to
we're,
not
the
city
council
or
in
Congress
or
whatever.
So
it's
like.
C
We
are
part
of
the
community
of
Americans,
but
we
are
not
like.
We
don't
have
defined
roles
or
membership
in
certain
parts
of
America
like
that,
I
would
say
it's
the
same
thing
here.
Right,
like
you
can
be
part
of
the
open,
Telemetry
Community
like
I,
would
say
someone
that
goes,
and
this
is
one
thing
that
we
miss
right
now
when
we
talk
about
this,
someone
that
goes
out
and
like
writes
blogs,
about
open,
Telemetry
right
that
tries
to.
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C
C
E
A
A
A
B
I
was
going
to
say
that
I
like
what
Philip
pointed
out
and
that
may
resolve
our
issue
and
I
I
think
you
you've
brought
up
a
legitimate,
legitimate
concern
and
if
we,
what
would
you
think
about
renaming
this
to
GitHub
org
membership
or
GitHub
organization
membership?
Well,
of
course,
Hotel
GitHub,
it's
kind
of
long,
but
we
could
find
an
appropriate
shorter
version,
but
I
mean
would
that
contribute.
D
C
You
know
well,
this
is
Project
membership
really
like
that's
what
this
is
actually
describing
like.
Are
you
a
contributor?
Are
you
like
a
member
of
the
project?
So
are
you
someone
that's
just
coming
like
it's
the
difference
between
someone
that,
like
I,
don't
know,
uses
a
library
and
is
part
of
the
and
and
some
of
that
volunteers
that
volunteers,
the
library
right
like
anyone,
can
come
and
use
the
library
and
they
can
even
donate
stuff
to
it.
C
But
some
people
are
like
going
a
step
further
and
they're
becoming
like
part
of
it
and
they're,
coming
down
the
weekends
to
clean
or
to
like
catalog
stuff
or
to
run
programs
for
their
people
right,
so
maybe,
instead
of
community
membership,
this
is
really
about
project
membership
yeah.
But
that
does
that
is
that
a
distinction
that
makes
sense.
D
E
D
So
back
to
the
question
of
having
links
to
these
events
before
we
continue
under
the
that's
okay,
so
so
not
under
ecosystem
tab,
but
under
Community
tab
would
that
do
we
think
that
would
make
them
because,
like
I'm
in
favor
of
having
those
there,
because
I
would
love
to
have
like
hey
in
the
year
2023?
D
There
was
this
event,
and
there
were
all
these
talks
and,
like
somebody
had
this
really
cool
talk
about
how
you
can
do
evpf
with
otel
and
like
not
overwrite
user
memory,
go
check
it
out,
like
I,
don't
I,
don't
know,
but
that'd
be
great
foreign.
B
It
sounds
to
me
that
would
sound,
maybe
like
a
blog
post.
If
we
do
have
an
events
page,
which
I
think
would
make
sense,
I
would
think
of
it
merely
as
a
list
of
upcoming
events
yeah
a
curated
list,
so
it
may
not
be
only
upcoming
events,
May
Be
recently
passed,
but
and
that
could
link
into
blog
blog
posts
that
give
a
summary
of
events.
C
Yeah
the
the
I
like
the
idea
of
having
sort
of
like
the
curated,
like
here's
like
here's,
what's
coming,
here's
where
we'll
be
is
like
a
marketing
thing
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
I'm.
C
B
A
So
I
I
kind
of
share
my
gut
feeling,
maybe
I'm
I'm,
quite
new
to
how
like
we
want
to
run
this
site
or
the
communication
part,
but
from
developer
perspective
I'm,
if
I'm,
seeing
there's
a
type
called
community
and
there's
also
a
type
called
ecosystem.
I
would
expect
a
community
something
that
I
really
want
to
engage.
I
want
to
know
like
like
which
group
how
people
should
I
connect
to
like.
A
If
there's
any
events,
there
are
some
hacker
song
or
there's
someone
talking
about
how
they
use
things
to
just
like,
like
guys
interact
with
others
for
the
ecosystem.
It's
more
like
if
I'm
I'm
trying
to
invest,
should
I
buy
an
open,
Telemetry
or
who's
competing
with
open
Telemetry
and
which
vendor
is
bad
in
open
time.
So
this
is
like
giving
me
a
broadside
of
the
market
position,
the
partnership
with
other
organizations
like
premises,
grafana
and
understanding
the
adoption
understanding
the
industry
trend.
C
B
B
Which
is
how
we
have,
which
is.
B
How
we
have
it
right,
yeah.
A
D
Contributors
to
this
like,
like
Reese
and
Rin,
maybe
they
could
like
could
approach
them
to
be
like
hey.
Do
you
want
to
like
more?
Do
you
want
to
be
active
in
the
in
the
maintenance
and
evolution
of
what's
under
this?
This
page
here
since
it
since,
like,
as
you
said,
like
ecosystem,
is
more
static
like
new
vendor
pops?
Up
that
supports
otlp,
like
that's,
not
just
gonna
change
the
next
month,
but
this
is
under
Community
is
constantly
evolving.
There's
going
to
be
more
events
more
meetups,
more
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
D
B
A
B
Somebody
volunteering
to
submit
a
PR
or
is
there
a
request
Austin,
you
can
open
an
issue.
A
And
another
minor
comment
I
feel
like
for
community
and
blog
blog
is
more
like
a
series
of
articles
that
ordered
by
the
time
when
people
can
search
Community,
not
necessarily
by
time,
for
example,
it
can
be
like
there's
a
big
event
coming
or
this
is
a
summary
of
something,
or
this
is
an
ongoing
effort.
Every
three
months
we
meet
a
certain
place,
so
there
might
be
some
cross-link,
like
a
community
page,
can
link
to
a
blog
or
the
blog
can
link
back
to
community,
which
I
got
that's
probably
rare.
B
E
D
B
So
I
I
just
want
to
point
out
we're
almost
at
halftime
and
yeah.
If
we
want
to
get
through
some
of
the
other
issues,
we
can,
of
course,
if
there's
more
to
discuss,
come
back
to
it
at
the
end,
if
we
have
time
or
yeah
next
meeting.
D
D
All
right,
let's
start
from
the
top
ish
I,
guess
changes
from
otel
specification
and
advertising.
G
I
put
that
one
there
I
might
have
put
that
one
there.
A
while
ago,
I
I
can
tell
you
right
now
that
I'm
interested
in
that
topic.
So
if
no
one
else
will
talk
about
it,
I'll
talk
about
it.
Okay,.
G
So
there's
the
hotel
spec
itself,
which
is
the
schema
and
all
these
like,
there's
the
specifications,
repo
right,
oh
yeah,
so
I'm.
Also
in
the
specification
Sig
to
my
understanding,
there
is
no.
G
We
don't
really
connect
things
that
are
from
the
specification
to
things
that
are
actually
in
the
metadata.eml
files,
for
example,
for
the
various
contributory
posts
and
I'm,
not
sure
who's.
Aware
of
that
and
from
our
side,
we
were
hoping
to
get
more
subject
matter.
Experts
in
these
different
receiver,
spaces
and
whatnot
to
like
help
us
figure
out
like
what
what
the
best
representation
and
like
ontology
is
like
categorizations
of
these
things
could
be
so
in
general.
G
There's
an
advertising
request
from
the
hotel
specification
Sig
to
get
more
eyes
on,
like
you
know,
like
actually
fleshing
out
these
specs
from
subject
matter,
experts
and
also
I'm,
a
maintainer
of
Custom
Distribution
of
Hotel
I
mean
I
work
for
Splunk
hello.
We
have
the
smoke
Hotel
collector
and
in
general
like
we
have.
While
there
is
the
breaking
really
like
there
are
change
notes
and
all
the
releases
of
otel
contrib,
that
is
just
the
hotel,
contrib
and
I
was
I.
G
Think
I
brought
this
up
in
slack
chat
a
while
ago,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
I
put
this
thing
in
the
meeting
notes
or
if
someone
else
did
but
I
did
bring
this
up
and
slash
chat
a
couple
months
ago,
I
would
love
to
see
like
a
centralized
view
for
not
just
like
high
level
road
map
but
like
like
an
aggregated
log,
I
guess
of
changes
happening
to
otel
because
it
is
right
now,
like
you
know,
if
I'm
consuming
from
open,
Telemetry
electric
and
trip
I
could
just
look
at
the
change
notes
for
that.
G
But,
like
then,
yeah,
there's
kind
of
like
a
dependency
graph
right.
Like
am
I,
also
looking
at
changes
Upstream.
Well,
hopefully
they
percolated
it
down
properly
to
the
change
notes
and
what
happens
about
all
these
other
repos
out
there
that
aren't
in
that
same
dependency
graph,
like
the
job,
instrumentation
Library,
et
cetera,
et
cetera
so
yeah,
just
in
general,
like
I,
was
wondering
if
there's
any
interest
or
if
anyone
has
any
ideas
for
a
at.
You
know,
centralized
aggregated
way
to
get
like
just.
G
C
C
Of
it
well,
weirdly.
D
D
C
C
C
If
you
are
like
a
developer,
you
know
if
you're,
a
maintainer
of
like
a
distro
or
some
sort
of
or
if
otel
is
an
upstreet,
is
an
upstream
dependency
for
you.
Then
you
as
part
of
due
diligence
into
pulling
in
upgrades
or
leases
or
whatever
would
you
know,
do
your
due
diligence
instead
go
through
and
check
all
those
patch
notes
and
like
be
pretty
exhaustive
about
it,
because
that's.
C
G
C
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
yeah
all
right
because.
G
C
C
B
C
The
important
things
and
then
once
we
get
that
kicked
off
I
can
we
can
put
something
in
like
the
maintainer
notes
to
say,
like
hey,
if
you're
a
maintainer
and
there's
something
really
important.
That
happened
this
month
like
go
ahead
and
shoot
Austin
a
note
to
get
into
the
next
one
or
you
know
if
you
have
a
call
out
or
whatever
right,
gotcha.
G
Yeah,
so
we
should
like
distribute
that
to
the
various
Sig
groups
and
whatnot
kind
of,
like
you
know,
top
down
like
hey
just
let
you
guys
know
if
there's
anything
you
think
is
important
for
the
community.
You
know
you
should
talk
to
us.
Yep.
C
All
right,
I'll
see
what
I
might
be.
January
was
slow
right,
Phillip,
yeah,
I
could
probably
put
together.
I
can
probably
throw
this
together
before
tomorrow
to
do
a
January
one.
G
Think
getting
people
on
the
same
page
I'd
prefer
to
see
it
before,
like
just
the
the
Roundup
right
now,
because
that's
gonna
be
like
where
the
Returns
on
investment
will
see.
If
we
get
everyone
like
on
the
same
page
of
like
you
know,
send
your
announcements
to
Austin
or
whatever.
C
G
C
It's
we'll
we'll
do
the
like
January
one.
That's
also
like
announcing
like
Hey
we're
gonna.
C
C
Like
hey,
here's
and
I
I
also
know
like
there's
a
new
like
there's
a
road
map
thing
that
if
you
were
in
the
maintainers
call
that
Ted
was
kicking
it
off
so
like
there
is.
There
is
stuff
right,
so,
okay,
I
will
yeah
I
think
this
should
be
coordinated
through
comms,
so
I
will
probably
tap
Philip,
who
is
also
extremely
not
busy
and
suffering
to
help,
but.
G
G
I
also
had
the
slack
chat,
one
I'm,
sorry,
the
the
stack
Overflow.
So
it
looks
like
we
have
a
stack
Overflow.
Do
we
actually
own
that
or
is
it
just
Community
created?
It's.
G
Account
do
we
like:
do
we
advertise
that
this
exists
anyway,
I'm
sure
it
is
but
like,
and
if
so
like,
do
we
have
people
like
staffed
or
otherwise?
Is
it
aware
for
other
maintainers
and
whatnot
that
you
know
we
should
be
probably
looking
at
stack
overflow
on
occasion.
C
D
B
C
A
C
This
is
actually
I
will
say.
This
is
on
my
list
right
now
for
Community
Management
in
general,
and
I
will
hopefully
have
more
to
say
about
this
at
a
later
date,
but
they're.
C
Yeah
my
goal
well
right
right
now,
the
the
general
goal
I
have
is
something
that
can
help
maintainers
and
Sig
leads
know
about
relevant
like
question
or
basically
be
like
hey.
There
are
people
talking
about
your
thing
over
here
or
asking
questions
about
your
thing
over
here.
Right.
B
E
C
Within
my
omnibus,
like
figure
that
stuff
out
but
I'm,
reluctant
to
like,
as
I,
have
mentioned,
to
people
before
right
now,
we
honestly
do
a
pretty
bad
job
of
even
making
sure
that
everyone
that,
like
comes
through
slack,
is
touched
in
terms
of
like
q.
A
so
I'm
loathe
to
push
people
to
new
channels
until
we
have
the
ones
that
we
already
have.
You
know
a
critical
mass
of
people
and
under
control.
C
C
A
Foreign
consolidating
the
channels
previously
like
when
we
started,
we
asked
people
to
use
slack
and
I
I
think
at
that
time
it
was
fair
because
open
Telemetry
was
like
evolving
changing
every
day.
So
you
don't
see
like
the
recurring
questions,
but
now
it's
fairly
stable,
so
you
can
imagine
like
people
are
asking
the
same
thing
and
if
we
ask
them
to
come
to
a
slack
every
time
you
keep
asking
these
things
like
slightly.
It's
just
hard
for
people
to
search
and
also
it's
impossible
for
such
like
search
index.
A
Yeah
I,
see
all
those
things
so
I
feel
like
for
those
type
of
things
like.
How
do
you
use
open
Telemetry?
How
do
you
connect
open
Telemetry
with
certain
like
premises?
Grafana
stack
Overflow
might
be
a
better
solution
after
like
four
years
of
the
evolution
and-
and
we
also
have
two
other
places-
people
come
to
slack
and
also
some
reports.
They
use
GitHub
discussions
and
if
you
look
at
discussions,
I
I
I
think
the
quality
varies
a
lot
depending
on
the
maintenance
attitude.
A
C
And
I
think
like
Java
instrumentation
I
feel
like
is
an
example
of
where
they're
using
discussions.
Well
is
my
recollection
that
they've
that
it's
pretty
good
over
there
I
haven't
looked
at
every
single
one.
A
C
A
A
Github
discussions
might
be
a
better
place
for
people
to
talk
about
that
repost
particular
design
like
if
they're
talking
about
hey,
should
we
change
the
direction
things
like
that
I
would
agree,
and
slack
is
just
for
people
to
get
connected
if
they
ask
questions
if
they
ask
like
I'm
using
open
time
check
out
this
issue,
I
I
think
eventually
I
would
want
people
just
to
tell
them
hey,
go
to
stack
Overflow
search
and
if
you
didn't
find
the
answer
then
ask
a
question.
There.
C
I
I
will
say
part
of
the
challenge
not
to
cut
you
off.
Sorry,
it's
like
you
mentioned,
though
we
don't
control
stack
overflow
right,
do.
G
We
can
Aid
yeah
okay,
I
mean
like
like
stack.
Overflow
is
a
cesspool,
it
does
suck
sorry,
in
my
opinion,
I
guess
this
is
being
recorded.
But
hey
that's
my
personal
opinion.
E
C
B
C
C
G
C
G
Two
things
one,
my
idea
here
would
be
that
if
we
were
to
start
using
stack
Overflow
as
the
primary
reference,
we
still
would
be
communicating
in
discussions.
In
slack
it
just
now,
we
have
a
pointer
to
a
particular
question
on
stack,
Overflow
and
not
just
say
in
general.
Ask
your
questions
here.
Secondly,
I
wonder
if
there's
any
way
to
get
like
you
know,
like
the
Twitter
verified
badge,
equivalent
of
like
a
answer
from
an
Hotel
member
as
opposed
to
the
community
at
large.
Right
like
there
can
be
some
level
of
I
mean
that's.
G
The
whole
thing
is
like
the
community
doesn't
have
to
like
the
stack
Overflow
and
general
Community
do
not
have
to
like
the
answer
given
to
them
by
hotel,
but
this
should
we
should
still
have
an
official-ish
answer,
and
if
the
community
decides
that
hey
like
what
we
consider
to
be
a
wrong
answer
is
better,
you
know
we
could
always
answer
a
second.
C
Yeah
I
don't
know,
I
can
see
if
there's
any
other,
like
groups
that
have
gone
through
this.
A
And
maybe
the
philosophy
of
stack
Overflow
is
that
nobody
has
the
ultimate
control.
It's
like
Wikipedia.
Anyone
can
vote
like
I
know.
There's
some
articles
explaining
like
what's
the
worst
API
ever
invented
and
the
answer
is
Microsoft
invented
the
Windows
even
tracing
API,
that's
the
worst
I
mean
that
is
true.
Yeah.
G
A
Personally,
I
I,
I
I
feel
like
I
love.
That
answer.
If
Microsoft
owns
that
you
would
never
find
the
answer
like
this
yeah,
but
but
this
is
from
the
user's
perspective,
it's
not
a
company
defined
whether
the
API
is
good
or
not.
It
has
a
lot
of
users
find
this
so
confusing,
and
you
can
argue
these
users
are
not
expert
in
this
domain,
but
it's
okay.
This
is
the
perspective
from
from
stack
Overflow.
So
if
stack
Overflow
is
saying
open,
Telemetry
certain
API
is
bad.
We
should
take
the
feedback.
D
I
totally
agree
with
that,
I
will
say
So
based
off
of
experience
when
we
were
building
um.net
core
at
Microsoft.
Similar
situation
like
this
thing
was
changing
all
the
time,
perhaps
way
too
much
and
stack.
Overflow
was
kind
of
a
mess,
but
it
was
also
really
helpful
to
be
like
hey.
A
lot
of
people
are
really
struggling
with
this
thing
that
we
designed
and
like.
Maybe
we
should
consider
changing
that
and
we
would
like
it
was.
D
It
wasn't
the
only
input,
but
it
was
like
one
of
the
one
of
the
big
inputs
to
like
the
the
2.0
change,
where
packaging
was
turned
from
a
total
chaotic
mess
that
we
thought
was
a
beautiful
design
that
was
actually
a
nightmare
into
something
that
was
far
more
palatable
for
people
and
like
that.
It
was
that
there
were
tons
and
tons
of
questions
about
this
that
were
like
this
is.
This
is
clearly
too
hard
for
people.
D
G
Collective
is
the
thing
for
our
official
yeah.
C
G
5K
members
of
the
collective,
so
official
members
can
provide
authoritative
answers,
so
I
I
wouldn't
get
to
hung
up
on
the
fact
that
things
will
eventually
become
stale
and
the
answers
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
exact
problem.
Zach
overflow
has
with
every
single
language.
It's
not
like
a
new
problem
or
exclusive
to
us.
G
C
C
You
I
think
it's
a
good
point:
I
will
do
some
research
here
and
I
I
think
there's
a.
C
Getting
backs
into
docs
and
like
like
the
the
the
knowledge
repository
problem,
is
becoming
more
apparent,
so
this
is
something
that
I
will
look
at
I
will
bring
it
up
to
governance
and
we'll
go
from
there.
C
In
the
meantime,
like
I
said,
I
am
working
towards
something
right
now
that
should
at
least
make
that'll
like
just
be
scanning
sort
of
like
these
questions
in
General
on
stack,
Overflow
and
also
like
GitHub
and
other
places
to
do
reporting
on,
like
how
many
you
know
unanswered
questions
there
are
and
like
see
where
people
are
talking
about
hotel,
so
that
can
also
be
you
know,
useful
useful
input
to
this
I
gotta
stop
coming
to
these
meetings.
It's
just
more
work
for
me.
Phillip.
C
G
D
I
think
are
we:
are
we
at
time,
I
think
we're
at
a
time.
I
can
keep
going
until
the
end
of
the
hour.
If
we
want
to
discuss
a
few
more
things.
C
I
have
an
army
to
get
ready
for
us,
so
I'll
pop
off
I,
don't
see
anything
on
here.
That
seems
like
it's
gonna
require
me,
but
if
you
have
anything
else
you
need
to
do.
You
know
where
to
find
me
all
righty.
D
Hello
Severn
welcome.
We
we've.
F
F
I
think
I
put
in
the
next
three,
so
I
said:
perfect
timing.
I
just
wanted
to
to
clarify
right.
We
we
just
have
published
two
blog
posts.
F
Now
we
have
also
the
php1
and
the
Outreach
you
one
do
we
want
to
just
launch
them
also
today
tomorrow
or
do
we
want
to
wait
a
few
days
I
think
the
PHP
team
is
hungry
to
to
get
their
blog
post
out,
so
they
hope
for
today,
I
think
so.
I'm,
not
sure
I
I
have
no
no
strong
opinion
on
that.
D
Yeah
I'd
be
in
favor
of
today,
I
think
the
one
thing
is
I'd
initially
said
on
the
initial
PR
that
I'm
like
oh,
this
should
be
part
of
the
banner
we're
we're
probably
gonna
reserve
the
banner
space
for
a
a
link
to
the
cfp
for
the
the
observability
day
for
kubecon
Europe.
D
F
F
In
the
PHP
blog
post
today,
I
think
and
then
the
outreachy
Maybe
Wednesday,
or
something
like
that.
So
yeah
Wednesday.
B
F
D
Okay,
so
we
have
six
more
minutes
and
there's
these
three
topics
best
practice
guidance
is
omnioshi,
redo
vendors,
page
considered
new
doctors,
page
and
patrice's.
We
don't
assign
issues
project
for
dtlc
contribution
guidelines
which
of
these
do
you
think
we
could
cover
in
six
minutes
five
minutes.
F
B
To
give
some
context,
you
know
that
at
different
times
in
the
year,
we'll
get
a
slight
flurry
across
open
source
projects.
So
Please
assign
to
me
please
assign
to
me
and
what
we've
adopted
on
some
other
projects
is
to
Simply
say
we'll
see
the
guidelines,
it's
not
that
we
don't
assign,
but
we
want
folks
to
possibly
contribute
before
they
just
come
out
of
the
blue
and
say
assign
this
to
me.
So
so
that's
the
the
rationale.
Oh.
G
I
think
it's
you
know
for
communication
purposes
like
if
any
contributor
is
planning
on
doing
that
or
if
they've
started
to
work
on
it
and
just
not
ready.
Yet
you
know,
like
you,
can
message
it
in
the
chat,
but
it.
B
So
this
mainly
seems
to
happen
because
some
sometimes
there
are
classes,
professors
say
well
get
involved
in
open
source
and
they
get
points
for
tickets
that
are
assigned
not
for
yeah.
They.
A
Consider
closed
so
in
open,
Telemetry,
C,
plus
plus
repo,
with
much
similar
saying,
like
their
interns
and
their
students,
doing
something,
but
on
the
other
side,
if
an
issue
is
not
assigned
to
someone,
you
might
end
up
seeing
like
two
community
members
reaching
out
and
they're
trying
to
fix
the
same
thing.
We've
seen
that
a
lot
in
open
telemetry.net,
like
you,
see
like
three
three
people
making,
essentially
the
same
PR
and
and
it's
harder
fundamental
energy,
is
to
juggle
among
them
like
as
a
maintenance.
You
feel
bad
to
tell
Like,
A
and
B
hey.
B
Right
there
there
may
be
some
balance
to
be
had
you've
had
that
experience,
I
haven't
seen
it
I've
seen
well
I
go
back
to
what
James
said,
which
is.
If
somebody
wants
to
work
on
something
they
can
add.
A
comment
say
I'm
working
on
this.
In
that
way
we
know
if,
if
three
students
are
competing,
I
mean
that
may
be
outside
our
control
and
they
they
just
wanted
The
Prestige
of
having.
E
B
D
I
I
would
also
feel
fine
assigning
someone
after
they
like
if
they
already
have
a
PR,
open
and
say
they're,
like
75
of
the
way
there
or
something
like
that,
and
it's
like
pretty
clear
that
they're
going
to
finish
it
off,
be
like
okay
yeah
we
could.
We
could
assign,
but,
like
not
preemptively
like
oh
I,
want
to
work
on
this
Please
assign
me.
B
G
I
think
that's
the
case.
I
don't
know.
A
F
I
mean
what
what
we
could
do
is
that
we,
let's
say,
do
some
kind
of
soft
assignment
and
we
say,
like
hey
someone
says
like
yeah
I
I
want
to
do
this.
Did
we
say
like
hey,
you
have
now
one
week
or
something
like
that
to
raise
a
PR
and,
and
we
don't
assign
it.
We
just
write
like
hey,
please
hand
in
your
PR
until
Fab,
eight
or
something
like
that,
and
when
the
week
is
over,
which
is
still
like
yeah
everybody
else
is,
can
take
it
or
something
like
that.
G
Love
to
have
it
as
a
policy
where,
if
you're
not
a
contributing
member
or
you
don't
have
any
PR
as
merged
so
far
into
Hotel,
you
can't
get
assigned
until
you
have
a
PR
out
I
think
that's
a
good
policy
to
have,
because
there's
just
too
often
people
flake
I,
understand
right.
It's
like
what
most
of
the
people
contributing
aren't
getting
paid
for
this.
They
have
lives
so
yeah
totally
understandable,
but
yeah
I.
G
G
I
think
that's
what
we
were
talking
about.
That,
though,
there's
like
an
exceptional
case
where,
if
you've
commented
on
an
issue
supposedly
I
mean
Patrice
has
seen
this
happen
or
otherwise
it
would
have
been
brought
up,
as
my
understanding
so
I
thought.
That
was
my
understanding
too,
but
I
think
I
probably
just
didn't
comment
on
an
issue
because
I
wasn't
like
a
yeah
anyway,
there
seems
to
be
a
bug.
In
our
logic
there
we
should
have
a
policy
in
place
to
close
the
process,
bug
I,
guess
anyway,
I
gotta
drop
thanks
for
having
meal.
B
Yeah
my
we're
a
time
I'll
take
that
up
I'll,
look
at
our
contributing
guidelines
and
make
sure
there's
something
there.