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Hello
good
good
morning
still
morning,
yes,
oh
yeah
still
morning,
because
you're
still
at
the
house.
B
B
B
That's
so
much
better.
Now,
I'm
blue
from
the
windows
blue
windows
background.
B
I
thought
about
that:
oh
yeah,
too
bad
it
can't
my
camera
lighting
can't
decide
what's
going
on
ever
okay,
so
there
was
bogdan,
didn't
like
the
idea
of
one
language
going
off
and
being
different,
but
there
was,
he
did
seem
pretty
receptive
to.
B
Extending
the
the
freeze
he
wanted
to
extend
the
freeze
for
a
couple
other
for
one
or
two
other
things
also,
and
also
he
didn't
want
he.
I
guess
he
had
been
talking
about
to
the.
I
guess-
governance
or
I
don't
know
where
they
had
those
discussions
about
the
timeline
about
having
this
artificial
timeline
that
he
was.
He
had
been
concerned
with,
like
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
just
arbitrarily
cut
and
say
you
know,
make
them
some
poor
decisions
or
something.
B
So
he
seemed
very
supportive
of
exploring
this.
He
is
he
thought
that
so
the
one
case
that
he
brought
up,
that
he
thought
that
still
maybe
needed
span
context
was
like
law,
logging,
mdc
logging,
for
example,
where
you
would
pass
where
mdc.
I
guess
some
of
the
does
log4j
not
require
strings
anymore.
You
can
give
it
an
object.
C
B
Some
that
yeah,
so
we
could
so
that's
a
good
thing.
The
other
was
with
sort
of
in
that
same
vein,
of
of
being
able
to
pass
something
you
know
to
someone
like
if
you
were
going
to
pass.
C
B
Things
to
some
other
entity
not
to
bring
the
whole
span
along
with
it
or
not
to
expose
the
whole
span
yeah,
and
so
the
other
example
he
was
thinking
was
like
exemplars,
which
I
don't
really
understand.
Sort
of,
but
like
of
correlating
like
I
guess
so,
you
would
pass
that.
A
B
There
so
I
asked
since,
if
there
weren't
any,
but
if
there
weren't
any
ass,
if
there
weren't
any
examples
now
you
know
was,
is
that
something
that
we
can?
You
know
we
could?
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B
Like
that-
and
he
seemed
surprised
very
receptive
of
that
being
able
to
add
something
later,
you
know
we
can
add
after
ga
the
other
thought
I
had
after
the
meeting
was
sort
of
tied
to
a
little
bit
to
nikita's
idea
of
the
interface
and.
B
Having
I
mean
on
span,
we
could
have
a
get
context
method
that
just
returns
this
and
but
we
could
make
do
that
in
a
way
where
the
span
itself
doesn't
interface,
doesn't
extend
span
context,
but
that
it's
a
separate
like
the
implementation,
implements
both
span
and
span
context.
C
B
C
B
So
I
guess
what
I
so
what
I
was
thinking
there
is
that
that
would
still
give
people
a
span
context
if
they
wanted
it
to
pass
to
something
else.
That
would
be
just
like.
C
B
I
was
just
trying
to
I
I
I
liked
the
idea
of
I
like
the
idea
of
heidi.
I
want
to
get
rid
of
stay
in
contact.
C
C
B
B
Unlikely
yeah,
so
I
think
they
want
to
that's
what
they
want
to
see
like
what
it
would
look
like
to.
That
would
be
the
that
actually
seems
to
have
more
votes
like
more
a
momentum
than
the
the
one
that
you
did
submit,
of
making
it
optional.
B
B
Yeah
and
I
think
talk
about
the
just
where
like
talk
about
where
it
simplifies
things
for
you
like
what
you
liked
about
the
span,
the
propagators
and.
B
Mentioned
the
two,
I
would
mention
the
two
examples
that
bogdan
gave
in
the
meeting
today
and-
and
we
could
think
later
again
about
the
the
logging,
the
mdc
and
just
you
know
mention
that's
not
a
non-issue
because
they
only
take
strings
and
then
the
exemplars
that
we
could.
If
that
becomes
something
that
we
need
this
separate
thing
later,
we
could
add
it
and
in
fact
we
could
add
it
in
a
way
that
is
highly
optimized
by
returning
this
essentially
yeah.
C
B
A
B
I
do
okay,
yes,
and
I
will
go
to
the
spec.
What
time
is
the
spec
meeting
tomorrow,
because
I
can
go
and
fight
for
it.
B
B
It
might
be,
if
you,
let's
see,
if
how,
if
our
youtube,
is
thinking
how
awesome
our
youtube
sinking
is.
B
D
E
B
It's
too
bad.
The
the
maintainers
meeting
didn't
get
uploaded,
but
some
other
meeting
today
did
yeah.
I
mean
it.
A
I
think
it
says
you
have
less
information
in
a
propagated
span.
Is
that
the
idea
like
you,
you
have
probably
spent
you
just
unpacked,
you
know,
but
you
just
unpacked
some
kind
of
craze
context,
and
you
only
have
that
information
yeah
and
you
want
to
differentiate
between
that
thing
versus
one.
You
made
locally.
A
That
seems
like
a
very
under
the
stick,
doesn't
seem
like
I'll
look
into
that.
It
doesn't
seem
like
I
think,
end.
D
B
E
D
Just
very
quickly,
just
because
ga
is
coming
up.
E
B
B
And
I
think
there
were
probably
updates
on
that
issue,
but
I
think
the
there
was
no.
There
was
no
resolution
but
with
the
hour
ended-
and
we
had
two
minutes
to
talk
about
span
context
which
luckily
then
people
stayed
on
for
another
like
15
20
minutes,
so
we
got
to
have
discussion
about
that.
I
was
I
was
like.
I
was
sitting
on
the
sideline
I
was
like
please.
I
didn't
want
to
talk
about
spam
context.
B
I
guess
yeah
and
even
if
you
don't
they'll
yeah,
just
to
get
the
discussion
going
and
I'll
I'll
go
to
the
I'll,
be
at
the
spec
meeting
tomorrow
and
see.
If
see
what
has
to
be
done,
I
was
trying
to
think
what
did
morgan
wanted.
B
Morgan
wanted
to
decide
by
tomorrow's
meeting
if
we
were
going
to
do
it,
but
bogdan
kind
of
was
pushing
back
on
this
artificial
deadline.
Timeline.
B
Well,
yes,
okay!
So
what
they
said
today
was
it
is
frozen,
except
bargain
agreed
like
that
it's
frozen,
but
if
there's
bugs
then
you
know,
then
we
would
address
them,
but
that
they
did.
They
would
take
this
issue
and
the
two.
Let
me
let's
check
the
maintainer
meeting
notes.
Maybe
there
was
maybe
somebody
took
notes
that
would
be
remarkable.
B
B
Yeah,
so
they
wanted
that
the
pm
types
want
to
time
box.
This
requirements
delay
trace.
How
much
do
we
delay
trace?
Spec,
freeze.
B
Yeah
there
are
not
the
notes
aren't
great,
but
there
is
basically
there's
three
issues
at
play.
Currently,
one
is
bogdan's
trace
context,
utils
one
is
that
is
secure
or
is
unsecure
grpc
default
and
one
is
the
span
context.
C
B
Sure
so
bogdan
was
wanting
this
to
be
a.
He
doesn't
like
that.
There's
multiple
different
ways
to
get
the
get
things.
Oh,
I
guess
most
of
the
discussion
is
on
the
issue.
Probably.
B
Spam
tracer
matt,
okay,
we
talked
about
this
proposal.
Bug
didn't
seem
to
like
it
where,
because
so
bogdan
was
bugden
has
been
thinking
about
context,
injection
and
the
scope,
so
not
having
the
problem
with
those
the
trace
context,
utils
classes,
you
can't
inject
into
it,
so
the
tracer
having
these
methods
on
the
tracer
with
defau.
You
know
I
mean
this
is
default.
You
you
understand
this
better
than
I
do.
I'm
sure
I
don't
even
know
what
language
this
is
supposed
to.
B
C
C
I
mean
that
being
static.
That
still
has
the
same
problem
with
like
unit
tests
and
whatnot,
but
as
far
as
the
easy
to
use
api.
If
you
want
to
get
a
spam
just
to
get
it
from
the
spin
rather
than
dealing
with
tracer,
which
you've
never
seen
before
that
that's
my
current
brainstorming,
but
maybe
I
just
have
to
send
a.
A
C
B
Span,
I
think,
that's
what
bogdan
would
say
is
a
span
that
get
current
is
not
going
to
support
injection.
B
What's
your
feeling
about
injection
for
first
for
context,
basically
for
what
a
context
manager
kind
of
a
class
versus
static
access
to
the
thread,
local.
C
B
C
B
Yeah,
that
would
be
good.
I
wish
we
could
get
you
and
bogdan
in
the
same
room
sometime
sometimes
because
that
would
be
good
feedback.
I
could
add
that,
to
the
two
meeting
notes
for
agenda
for.
C
A
C
C
C
Because
we
have
so
that
framework
works
by
having
a
like,
I
mentioned
a
bit
in
that
comment,
like
your
producer
graph,
your
injection
graph
is
scoped
to
that
request.
So
in
that
case,
when
you
can
just
inject
context,
because
it's
all
scoped
into
that
request-
that's
just
convenient,
but
it's
not
a
mock
context
or
anything
like
that.
C
B
C
C
So
the
graphs
are
designed
as
just
methods
that
are
connected
by
dependence
injection.
So
once
one
method
is
complete,
it
will
call
the
other
one
with
those
parameters,
and
you
can
also
have
constant
or
sort
of
graph
scoped
parameters
as
well,
that
are
available
and
so
those
methods,
if
they
need
to
use
the
context.
I.
D
C
C
B
So
yeah
I've
also
done
that
in
glow
root
of
going.
You
know
going
and
killing
thread
local
access
and
passing
things
around
explicitly.
B
C
A
C
B
C
Okay,
I
need
to
get
going-
oh
yeah,
yeah
and
cool.
So
all
right.
I
think
I
have
to
do
yeah
thanks
for
sharing
all
right.