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B
A
Outgoing
yeah,
I
tried
to
fix
the
issue.
I
think
I
got
a
solution
now
for
it
also.
Basically,
I
created
a
new
user
and
then
changed
the
docker
compose
file
so
that
it
uses
root,
but
you
can
still
override
it
with
an
environment.
Variable
okay,.
A
After
the
meeting,
then,
you
will
see
so
I
already
finished
it
so
so
the
container
can
run
as
the
new
user
called
php
and
for
people
who
have
issues
because
the
user
was
root
before
it
will
just
work
like
like
it
is,
and
if
you
want
to
change
it,
then
you
just
have
to
change
the
end
form.
B
A
B
A
B
Yeah
yeah,
we
started
doing
it
earlier.
It's.
D
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
a
little
sick
today,
so
I'm
kind
of
on
my
couch
lying
down
but
yeah,
I'm
I'm
a
brunette,
the
like
dragon,
avatar.
A
Okay,
untitled,
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
a
cam
on
this
computer.
So
if.
D
A
D
I
had
one
thing
that
came
up
last
night.
I
was
kind
of
looking
into
a
different
issue
and
I
noticed
the
like
compliance
matrix
in
the
specification.
Repo
for
php
wasn't
super
up-to-date
and
I
wasn't
really
sure
if
we
should
be
trying
to
update
that
and.
B
Update
yeah
weeks
ago,
but
I
think
it's
already
out
of
date
again
because
I
think
all
the
environment
variables.
B
Covers
a
lot
of
checkboxes
yeah,
so
it
was
easy
enough
to
just
submit
a
pr.
D
A
C
B
No,
no,
we
didn't,
because
it
was
just
so
dick
and
I
I
haven't
met.
I
haven't
been
to
the
same
meeting
as
bob.
Yet,
okay,
no,
I
think
yeah
it's
been
a
while
since,
since
there
was
a
release,
I
think
yeah
it
did
come
up
recently.
It
was
certainly
due.
A
Okay,
there
will
be
one
thing,
because
I'm
doing
this
exporter
factory
rework
and
there
will
probably
be
some.
A
A
Yeah,
I
think
it's
even
pre-alpha
so
yeah.
Why?
Why,
on
the
in
the
on
the
matrix,
it's
even
a
marked
experiment,
which
I
guess
is
the
same
as
pre-alpha
so
yeah
yeah,
not
that
it's
a
big
issue
for
me
or,
but
I
think
it's
good
to
get
all
this
exporter
results
and
all
the
stuff
and
the
environment
into
a
new
release.
B
I've
still
got
I've
noticed
a
couple
of
minor
bugs
I'm
going
to
fix.
Probably
the
other
big
thing
that
I
wanted
to
work
on.
I
don't
know
that
it's
critical,
for
you
know
0.4
release,
but
is
logging
and
making
sure
that
you
know
it
doesn't
throw
any
exceptions
at
runtime
and
you
know
actually
logs
out.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
big
issue.
I
shied
away
from
that
when
I,
when
I
introduced
the
login
thing,
because
yeah
basically
should
be
everywhere-
and
I
don't
know
really
what's
the
best
solution
to
get
the
logo
and
all
the
components.
B
Yeah,
so
what
I
thought
I
might
do
is
unless
someone
beats
me
to
it
is
just
make
the
logger
available
and
you
know
get
it
in
there
and
just
get
everyone
happy
with
the
concept
of
where
it
is
and
how
it
works.
And
then
you
know
not
necessarily
go
and
fix
every
single
thing,
but
just
sort
out
I'll
give
you
on
how
how
to
do
it.
Yeah.
A
Yes,
okay,
yeah,
so
there's
a
null
logger
and
logger
in
there,
so
it
should
work
out
of
the
box.
If
you
just
use
this
trade
and
then
maybe
later,
we
can
have
a
look
on
how
to
get
this
actually
working.
A
But
what
I've
seen?
Probably
that
a
lot
of
the
other
sdks
have
like
a
central
entry
point.
You
know
there's
there's
some
sdk
class
or
a
factory
which
actually
spins
up
the
whole
sdk,
and
if
we
would
have
something
like
this-
and
you
know
you
could
distribute
all
these
loggers
and
all
this
stuff
to
the
to
their
objects,
which
are
you
know,
dependent
on
other
objects?
A
It's
just
an
idea,
so
if,
if
you
have
a
framework
with
continuous
with
dependency
injection,
of
course,
that's
not
a
problem,
but
you
have
to
think
of
people
who
might
not
use
a
framework.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
what
I
imagined
was,
you
know
you
allow
injection
of
a
psr
compliant
longer,
but
I'd
still
like
to
see
a
sensible
default
and
that
default
could
be
a
null
logger
or
a
standard
output.
B
Logger.
The
specification
allows
for
language,
specific
environment
variables.
A
B
Obviously,
having
an
sdk
to
with
a
set
locker
method
is
one
way
to
do
it.
Programmatically
we
could
have
a
php
based
environment
variable.
For
you
know,
this
is
the
type
of
logger
to
use
being
null
or
standard
out
or
actually
those
might
be,
the
only
ones
because
I
don't
think
we
could
auto
create.
There's,
not
a
there's,
not
like
a
discovery
mechanism
for
psr
loggers
that
I'm
aware.
A
So
then
end
users
can
basically
decide
themselves
what
kind
of
blog
are
they
yeah.
B
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
know
you've
done
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
with
symphony
and
I
saw
that
you
mentioned.
You
know
that
it
would
auto
inject.
B
You
know
psl
logger,
if
it,
if
anything,
implements
the
logger
aware
interface,
I
had
a
query
about
that
which
is,
or
maybe
it's
an
opinion,
but
that
you
don't
necessarily
want
to
use
the
same
logger
for
open
telemetry
logging,
as
you
do
for
application
logging,
because
I
know
that
when
I
install
open
telemetry
in
production,
I
don't
want
to
hear
from
it
unless
there's
a
problem.
B
So
you
know
it
probably
dialed
a
lot.
The
error
level.
A
You
can
you
can
configure
different
buggers
and
symphony
as
well.
That's
that's
symphony
has
such
pros
in
this
cons.
It's
cons,
it's
it's
kind
of
bloated
and
the
pro
is
that
you
can
nearly
configure
everything
and
change
everything.
So
you
can
configure
five
different
loggers
which
got
injected
into
different.
B
Objects
or
whatever,
so
that's,
okay,
so
in
terms
of
implementing
a
logger
in
open
telemetry,
we
don't
need
to
be
aware
of,
like
writing
to
a
channel
or
anything
like
that,
so
that
vlogging
clients
can
sort
of
take
care
of
funneling
logs
to
different
places.
A
No,
no,
I
think
we
just
we
just
take
care
that
it's
compatible
and
whatever
we
get
passed
down,
there
should
work
and
the
rest
is
up
to
the
user
or
for
me
when
I
built
the
so
the
I
created
this
symphony
bundle
and
maybe
you've
seen
it
in
the
country.
Yes,
but.
A
Now
it's
just
basically
getting
the
sdk
up
in
the
container.
The
next
step
is
basically
to
implement
auto,
auto
instrumentation,
and
that's
where
I
actually
will
kind
of
you
know
try
to
test
all
this
stuff,
because
there
I
have
to
think
about
of
about
the
configuration
and
what
people
could
do,
what
people
cannot
do.
So
I
have
to
try
out
a
lot
of
things
and
yeah.
That's
a
good
way
when
we
can
see
when,
if
yeah,
what
we
thought
before
was
not
a
good
idea
or
something
like
this
often
better
to.
A
B
A
A
No,
I
have
no
okay,
it's
not
that
it's
famous,
it's
just
a
library
where
you
can
create
kind
of
object,
proxies
of
it's
kind
of
a
little
bit
like
mocking,
but
for
production,
or
you
can
create
decorators
and
stuff
like
this.
So
I'm
working
on
a
little
auto,
instrumentation
feature
there,
where
you
just
can
pass
in
any
object
and
will
automatically
create
spans
if
a
method
is
called
on
this
object.
A
So
it's
nearly
finished,
but
it's
also
a
good
way
to
test
out
some
things
for
the
logging,
and
so
that's
actually
one
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
created
it
because
I'm
lazy
sometimes
like
I
guess,
every
developer,
that's
why
we
have
this
tool
and
yeah
it's
a
good
way.
Also,
it's
a
good
way
for
me.
When
I
work
on
the
other
symphony
bundle.
I
don't
have
to
write
a
lot
of
decorators
and
things
like
this.
B
Yeah
yeah
there
was
one
one
idea,
so
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
elastic's,
abm
implementation
and
that's
that's
interesting
because
it's
mostly
written
in
php
but
with
a
sort
of
back
end
written
in
c,
and
it
provides
a
mechanism
to
create
a
span
via
sort
of
a
callback
function
and
then
looks
and
wrap,
wrap
the
function
in
in
a
span
and
take
care
of
handling
exceptions
and
whatever
and
that's
that's
yeah.
That's.
A
A
That's
where
I
for
now
implemented
three
decorators
one
creates
a
span
for
each
method
or
decorator
strategies
you
will
see
and
the
other
one
just
records
an
event
and
the
third
one
basically
wraps
the
method
called
and
try
catch
and
records
the
exception
and
throws
the
exception
again,
of
course,
because
so
that
that
could
be
very
handy
if
to
instrument
a
lot
of
php
libraries.
B
I've
got
one,
no,
I
was
just
going
to
ask,
or,
although
I'm
not
just
messaging,
to
do
something
with
with
packages
yeah,
the
the
guy
who
first
set
it
up
and
he's.
A
It
actually
is,
but
actually
the
contrib
repository
doesn't
have
a
packages
entry
for
now.
So
I
created
an
issue
for
that
as
well.
Sorry,
the
contract
we
have
this
php.
A
A
One
related
thing-
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
seen
the
discussion
in
this
in
the
symphony
threats
about
splitting
the
controvers
repository
and
also
actually
the
sdk
repository,
so
that
we
could
have
different
packages
for
the
api
the
sdk
maybe
conjured.
So
if
users
want
to
install
or
just
want
the
dependency
on
the
api,
then
they
can
just
install
the
api
package.
A
B
A
So
we
would
probably
we
would
have
this
mono
repo
like
or
the
two
mono
repos
for
one
contract
on
the
sdk
one,
and
then
this
has
to
be
split
somewhere.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
have
you
seen
how
symphony
does
they're
splitting.
B
A
They
have
a
massive
mono
repo
where
everything
goes,
and
then
they
have
a
lot
of
packages
which
are
just
independent
components,
which
you
can
reuse
and
stuff.
They
have
the
internal
stuff
and
everything
goes
in
there
and
then
they
do
a
sub
split
and
basically
mirror
all
the
the
packages
into
other
repositories.
A
A
I
think
because
I've
seen
monorepos
where
they
don't
use
subsplit,
they
just
point
npm
to
a
certain
subdirectory
or
where
the
javascript
code
or
whatever
it
is,
is
located.
But
I
guess
it
works
very
differently
than
mpm,
sometimes
very
slow.
So
I
guess
it's
downloading
the
whole
repository
and
then
trying
to
figure
out
what's
in
which
directory
or
something
like
this.
A
No
okay,
I
did
I
had
in
the
past,
but
so
I
did
a
little
bit
research
there's
a
subspit
as
a
service
which
is
created
by
the
same
guy
who,
what's
his
name,
the
the
dsl
library,
videos
and
the
do
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
A
But
I
will
just
look
it
up.
Okay,
it
doesn't
matter.
There's
this
guy
he's
does
a
few
very
interesting
php
or
packages
and
there's
a
he
created
a
sub
split
as
a
service
which
I
tested
out,
and
it's
really
straightforward.
You
just
have
to
or
a
maintainer
has
to
configure
which
directories
have
which
package
and
then
it
will
automatically
push
on
every
every
push
or
release
will
push
the
we
will
update
the
the
mirrors,
basically
with
the
chords.
B
Okay,
because
we
were
talking,
I
was
worried
a
bit
that,
like
this
sounds
good,
but
it
also
sounds
like
maintenance,
and
you
know
that
that
means
that
someone
has
to
like
it's
a
job.
It's
a
job
that
someone
has
to
do
all
of
the
time.
No.
A
No,
no
I've,
attested
and
there's
another
there's
a
github
action
which
does
the
same,
but
I
couldn't
really
get
it
to
work,
but
the
same
guy.
Who
does
it
that
the
action
did
a
very
handy
created
very
handy
package
which
solves
some
issues
around
all
this
sub
splitting
so
pushing
tags
for
releases
and
stuff
like
this?
A
And
then
there
is
this.
I
don't
know
what
you
call
it:
application
with
symphony
uses,
which
I
have
to
test
again,
but
the
main
issue
is:
we
have
to
create
some
sort,
another
organization.
A
Basically,
that
would
be
probably
bob's
part
or
I
could
create
the
organization
as
well,
because
I
don't
think
the
open,
telemetry
organization
wants
to
have
20
or
30
php
repositories
in
there.
So
yeah,
okay,
yeah,
do
you
know
what
I
mean
so,
and
this
would
could
also
be
the
organization
where
we
could.
You
know,
create
some
demonstration
applications
or
something
like
this.
You
know
so
I
for,
for
example,
for
the
symphony
bundle
I
created
one,
which
is
in
my
personal
space,
but
I
would
prefer
to
have
it.
A
You
know
somewhere
under
the
umbrella
of
open,
telemetry,
more
or
less.
You
know.
B
A
B
A
Yeah
well
at
least
you
know,
have
a
one
organization
if
it's
really
under
the
umbrella
of
open,
telemetry
or
not,
but
one
which
is
just
you
know,
has
repositories
which
more
or
less
have
something
to
do
with
with
open
telemetry.
A
D
Okay,
oh
one,
one
last
quick
thought
I
don't
know
title
if
and
if
you've
been
able
to
join
the
like
cncf
slack
and
I
have
yeah.
D
A
D
A
A
A
Oh
one
thing:
brett,
yes,
do
you
even
know
what
your
first
name
means
in
german?
No,
please
don't
pla.
It
means
like
a
plank.
B
A
A
Yeah
because
I
was
I
was
actually
you-
you
beat
me
to
do
it
because
I
was
just
trying
out
nothing
much.
I
did
there,
but
I
wasn't
really
sure
what
because
it
says
it
should
be
recorded
or
reported,
but
how,
where
what
what
to
do
with
the
data
and
who
should
see
it
who's?
A
The
target
audience
is
just
for
us
to
see
what's
in
overhead
and
then
of
course
you
have
the
does
it
say
I
mean
you
have
to
have
the
same
computers
running
onto
the
you
know
to
to
benchmark
the
benchmarks
against
java.
You
know
it
doesn't
yeah.
B
A
A
No,
the
only
thing
is
which
I
I
think
I
saw
quite
a
while
ago
that
cncf
projects
can,
I
know,
can.
A
To
think
about
the
good
works:
well,
there's
a
provider
where
cncf
projects
can
ask
for
resources
like
containers
is
something
like
this,
so
that
could
be
an
idea
that
would
be
you
know,
ask
for.
I
don't
know
some
container
or
some
virtual
machine
or
whatever
there,
where
we
could
put,
we
could
run
those
tests
and
probably
some
other
tests.
You
know
just
to
have
one
one
machine
which
basically
is
more
less
the
same.
All
the
time
yeah.
A
A
B
Yeah,
maybe
it
needs
it,
I
don't
know.
Maybe
it
needs
like
a
baseline
test
in
like
a
canary,
which
is
something
that
that's
consistent.
You
know
so
that
we
can
compare
that
across
different
realms.
I
don't
know.
B
It
yeah
anyway,
it's
it's
interesting.
It
was
interesting
to
run.
It
really
stood
out
for
me
that
pareto
buff
was
a
lot
slower
than
grpc,
for
you
know
actually
generating
spans
and
traces
to
to
export
roughly
twice
as
slow.
B
I
think-
and
I
was
also
really
used-
I've
never
used
php
bench
before,
but
you
can
hook
it
straight
up
to
x,
debug
and
run
a
benchmark
and
then
generate
like
a
case,
grind
output
for
for
your
rounds
and
just
go,
and
you
know
look
at
those
big
big
charts
that
this
is
where
you
go.
B
What
you
can
generate
what
case
grind.
B
B
Yeah,
that's
actually
cool
it
is.
It
is
actually
and
I
haven't
written
any
documentation.
Yet
I
should
that
should
have
been
part
of
the
pr
should
probably
do
that,
because
I'm
still
not
sure
what
we
as
we're
just
saying
what
we
actually
do
with
you
know,
benchmarking.
B
You
know
we
don't
know
how
to
write
consistently
or
where
to
publish
it,
but
but
at
least
maybe
some
minimal
documentation
for
the
moment
to
know
that
it
is
there
and
how
to
generate
it
and
yeah,
hopefully
closer
to
closer
to
beta
or
so
we
you
know,
we
spend
some
time
actually
making
sure
it's
as
fast
as
it.
It
needs
to
be.
E
A
E
B
A
A
Oh
yeah,
what
do
you
think
about
the
the
grpc
extension
issue?
You've
seen
the
issue
I
created.
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
I
think
that's
a
good
idea,
because
that
burnt
me
the
other
days
as
well.
I
went
to
deploy,
deploy,
something
and
and
geo
piece
and
extension.
A
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
you,
can
you
can
trick
composer
into
thinking?
It's
install
a
grpc
extension
is
stuff,
but
I
don't
think
if
it's
really
just
it's
just
one
exporter
which
needs
this
extension,
then
it
shouldn't,
be,
you
know,
required
for
default.
It's
just
just
have
a
suggestion
and
tell
people.
If
you
want
to
use
this,
then
please
install
that
yeah
yeah
yeah.
I
think
it's
a
really
good
idea.
B
So
yeah
it
would
be
an
ultimately,
it
should
even
be
a
dependency
of
the
country
module.
If
we
do
end
up
splitting
economics
yeah.
A
A
Yeah,
that's
actually
one
of
the
things
which
would
result
in
splitting
up
all
the
packages
so
that
all
the
sdk
and
api
wouldn't
have
any
dependency
anymore
on
grpc
and
just
the
country
package,
or
even
I
don't
know
if
he
should
split
the
packages
well,
we
can
always
create
this.
This
composite
packages,
you
know
and
compose,
also
doesn't
matter
but
yeah,
so
the.
A
But
we
could
remove
this
dependency
of
all
the
stuff
on
the
sdk
and
then
have
a
little
bit
cleaner
installs
for
people
which
don't
all
do
not
need
all
the
stuff
which
which
they
don't
need.
So.
B
Yes,
yeah,
I
think.
A
A
A
requirement-
and
I
didn't
know
what,
if
there's
a
reason
which
I
just
don't
understand
or
I
didn't
can
come
up
with,
so
I
thought
a
long
time
about
it,
but
I
couldn't
figure
what
if
there
could
be
a
real
reason
other
than
yeah
it's
it's
there
and
everything
works.
Then
out
of
the
box,
you
know,
but
I
don't
have
such
an
issue
with
you
know
smaller
or
more
common
extension
spots.
This
one
is
kind
of.
A
Special,
I
remember
the
last
time
I
think
that
two
or
three
years
ago
I
do
project
which
used
grpc
and
php,
and
it
was
kind
of,
was
super
messy
because
a
lot
of
bugs-
and
of
course
you
don't
want
to
look
at
the
codes
which
is
generated.
You
know
where
portugal
buffers,
because
it's
something
super
weird
and
hard
to
understand
what
they
actually
do
there
and
yeah.
A
It's
kind
of
that's
why
I
always
shine
away
from
using
it
in
php
and
there's
another
option,
but
nowadays
you
can
even
create
your
pc
servers
in
php.
So
maybe
I
should
change
my
mind.
B
B
A
But
yeah
we
can
maybe
next
time
I
think
we
will
remember.
We
can
tell
bob
what
we
were
talking
about.
B
A
Yeah
I
had
a
look
there.
It
was
an
update
for
a
few
months,
but
okay,
maybe
it's
it's
somewhere.
A
A
B
B
Yeah,
so
my
son
learns
german
at
school.
He
was
telling
me
this
story
yeah,
so.
A
A
This
european
privacy
laws
and
the
german
ones
are
even
more
strict.
So
if,
for
example,
if
you
record
someone
secretly
and
use
it
for
something,
it
can
get
you
to
the
two
years
of
jail.
So
if
I
you
know,
if
somebody
reports
it
to
police,
it's
not
when,
like
the
police
are
looking
for
people
who
do
that?
Yes,
I
don't
know,
what's
called
an
english,
you
have
to
go
to
the
court
and
just
say
this
person
used
my
our
private
conversation
somewhere,
something
or
something
like
this.
A
Yes,
so
it's
a
little
bit
hard
wired
in
my
head,
you
know
to
not
have
ever
recorded
yeah,
that's
just
how
we're
also
okay
yeah.
It
was
a
pleasure
to
meet
you
guys
as
well
and
hopefully
next
week
again.
What
time
is
it
now
for
you
in
australia
anytime
see
that
6am,
okay,
very
early?
Oh,
that
would
be
charlie
to
me.
Okay.
For
me,
it's
now
8
p.m.
A
Yeah,
it's
okay,
but
often
I'm
not
at
home
at
this
time,
so
especially
on
wednesday.
So
what's
your
time
study.