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A
A
B
Is
going
to
get
here,
I
was
speaking
with
Carlos
a
little
bit
earlier.
He
did
indicate
that
the
triage
times
he's
talked
to
different
ones,
about
I,
guess,
for
those
in
a
European
side,
looks
like
they're
looking
at
Monday
sometime
like
six
a.m
in
the
morning,
something
like
that
specific
time
yeah
and
sounds
that
there's
still
kind
of
a
question
in
terms
of
the
non-european
side,
but
either
11
o'clock
or
12
o'clock
on
Monday.
But
it
sounds
like
that
decision
hasn't
been
made
yet
I'm,
not
sure.
B
B
Maybe
we
should
go
ahead
and
if
anyone
else
is
going
to
come,
is
it
okay
with
you,
okay,.
B
So,
regarding
2773
we've
been
leaving
that
open
because
of
the
well.
Let
me
show
my
screen
here.
B
So
2773.
C
B
B
What
type
of
comment
should
we
have
here?
Should
we
have
a
commentary
or
just
closing,
is
fine.
C
B
Okay,
what
do
you
want
to
say.
D
D
C
C
B
All
right
did
you
guys
deal
with
that,
then
you
know.
D
Actually,
can
we
use
just
as
a
fair
comment,
please
reopen
if
there
is
it
if
there's
food
or
further
interest.
D
B
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
look
at
this
one
here.
C
And
and
Carlos,
you
can
probably
see
the
challenge
here,
like
I,
I
yeah,
the
environment
variable
is
leading
us
to
the
to
some
like
corner
or
even
a
bed
and
yeah.
The
other
two
students
can
have
arbitrary
character
or
even
like
non-printable
character
and
whatever
we're
doing
here
is
going
to
be
dirty.
D
Yeah
correct
I
mean
the
alternative.
Is
that
for
every
element
in
the
resource
you
try
to
parse
like
with
each
type,
which
is
not
good?
You
know
like.
C
A
C
There's
no
clear
way
for
people
to
sterilize
something.
For
example,
you
have
a
ray
of
string
and
the
first
element
is
something
like
three
spaces:
yeah.
D
Yeah
totally
I
mean
my
impression
is
that
environment
variable
was
created
a
specifically
supported
strings
and
it
was
probably
always
assumed
that
way.
Yeah.
Let
me
check
quickly
the
to
pretty
quickly
the
specification
on
that
specific
variable.
Maybe
it's
mentioned
something
there
ability.
D
C
It's
just
a
bug
and
if
we
try
to
solve
this
bug
in
a
partial
way,
then
down
the
path
I
can
see
like
it's
becoming
more
and
more
complex.
Maybe
it
will
develop
it
if
escape
sequence
like
for
people
right,
maybe
like
basic
C4,
encoding
or
something,
then
it's
very
hard
for
people
to
use
yeah.
D
Let's
add
more
info
and
probably
discuss
that
at
the
spec,
but
my
general
impression
is
that
we
should
use
like
for
this
environment
variable
just
to
avoid
any
problems
that
you
described.
Only
support
strings.
C
I
I
agree
just
making
sure
it's
not
too
complex,
otherwise
I
feel
we're
over
engineering
like
I've,
never
seen
people
try
to
just
to
squeeze
everything
into
environment
variable.
Even
if
you
consider
like
we
allow
array
of
strings
and
arbitrary
data
types
and
people
will
have
problems.
Hey
I,
run
out
of
space
environment
variable
only
allow
me
to
put
up
to
like
64
kilobytes
I
need
more
than
yeah
for.
D
D
I
would
be
like
yeah
and
yeah.
You
can
either
comment
saying
we
will
let's
discuss
that
in
the
next
spec
poll,
and
then
I
will
have
the
actual
technical
comment.
D
A
A
C
C
D
Oh
yeah,
correct,
yes,
I
mean.
Maybe
we
need
to
sign
that
to
to
tigrant
but
yeah.
It
makes
sense.
I
think
I
mean
unless
he
thinks
that,
for
whatever
reason
they
can't
or
they
want
but
yeah,
it
makes
sense.
Otherwise,.
A
D
Young
Lyric,
clear
him
I
think
he
was
like
out
of
science.
So,
okay.
B
C
I
I
think
this
developer
is
from
Cisco
and
and
he
has
been
in
charge
of
the
open,
telemetry.io
website
content
and
we
run
into
multiple
problems
and
I
worked
with
him
to
clarify
some
of
the
naming
thing,
and
this
is
a
continuation
of
that
he's.
Trying
to
challenge
Us
by
clarifying
what
Auto,
instrumentation
and
an
agent
is.
So
in
general,
it's
a
it's
a
good
effort,
just
trying
to
make
sure
it's
more
consistent.
D
A
A
C
C
I
think
David
ashpo
from
Google.
He
he
already
has
a
proposal
and-
and
this
is
critical
before
we
can
call
promises-
exporters
like
a
stable
version,
so
Carlos
for
free
information.
Permissions
doesn't
have
this
three
level
theme.
It
only
has
the
magic
stream,
but
here
in
open
times
we
have
the
meter
and
under
meter
we
have
instruments,
so
you
can
have
two
different
meter.
One
is
Carlos,
one
is
right
and
both
of
them
have
a
have
an
instrument
called
CPU
utilization
and
yeah.
When
you
export,
what
do
you
do
so?
C
The
the
like,
the
naive
thinking,
is
you
just
put
the
prefix
of
the
meter
name,
so
it's
fully
qualified,
but
the
problem
is
for
some
folks.
They
need
backward
compat,
they're,
saying
I've
been
running
a
CPA
foundation
for
years
and
if
using
open,
Telemetry
forced
me
to
move
or
change
my
metric
stream
name
don't
have
to
right.
We
do
all
the
alerts
so
so
this
is
just
try
to
find.
What's
the
right
balance.
D
A
A
C
So
colors
I
I'm
on
fence
for
this
particular
thing,
because
I
I
don't
think
the
spike
is
trying
to
Define
what
distribution
is
like
we
Define
what
is
API.
What
is
SDK
was
an
exporter,
but
this
is
more
like
a
marketing
term
or
it's
not
a
technical
thing.
D
C
D
Right
yeah,
it's
not
it's
not
at
this
moment
correct
and
but
you
know
this
was
mentioned
in
the
other
discussion
regarding
Auto
instrumentation,
so
I
could
say
because
of
these
there's
probably
value
I
mean.
Probably
that
of
the
refer
will
fix
this.
That's
my
impression,
but
for
now
needs
more
if
I
would
say,
I
don't
or
unless
you
think
that
we
should
just
go
say
no.
D
I
could
say,
needs
more
info
because
we
need
to
discuss
whether
this
should
be
or
not,
shouldn't
be
yeah,
and
we
can
comment
in
the
issue
like
we.
We
feel
that
probably
the
the
word
is
true
is
more
like
a
sales
or
yeah.
A
D
A
And
yeah.
C
So
Carlos
before
we
look
at
this
one,
do
you
feel
like
let's
discuss
in
the
next
six
meeting
is
clear,
or
we
should
send
that
to
an
ask.
Please
bring
this
to
the
next
meeting
for
discussion.
A
D
Yeah
yeah,
yeah,
yeah
I
would
add
that
comment.
Yeah
I
already
had
comment
on
the
first
one
I
mentioned,
so
you
will
have
yeah.
Also
this
yeah
comment
and
it
will
add
the
agenda.
Okay,.
A
C
It's
more
like
a
semantic
convention
yeah
from
Matrix
to
to
describe
the
saturation
or
something
yeah.
D
C
They
mentioned
supporting
like
if
you
look
at
the
first
sentence.
What
they're
trying
to
achieve
he
mentioned
in
the
end
supporting
list
and
length
would
increase
the
coverage
of
saturation
observability
signal.
It
really
is
closer
yeah.
You
would
want
to
look
across
the
redis
cluster
and
see
if,
from
the
capacity
Poland
perspective,
this
cluster
are
saturated
already
or
about
to
saturation.
You
can
add
additional
Hardware.
D
A
D
That
that's
very
great
and
I
think
that
this
is.
This
will
fall
on
Josh
surette's
group
like
they
are
trying
to
gather
experts,
experts
and
the
other
thing
is
that
tigran
have
it
was
Tyrion
or
done
somebody's
like
basically
start
supporting
the
third
parties.
They
can
Define
their
own
schemas.
You
know
because
we
don't
know,
we
are
not
experts,
you
know
so
yeah.
A
C
A
D
C
D
That's
an
interesting
one.
What
to
do
well,
I
used
to
think
there
should
be
value
in
having
them
come
to
the
group
yeah,
although,
although
they
will
not
probably
get
any
feedback
in
the
first
meeting
at.
A
D
B
Okay,
I
think
that's
the
full
list
of
items
there
so
Carlos
before
you
came.
We
talked
about
the
the
triage
meeting
based
upon
what
we
talked
about
earlier.
So
this
is
the
last
Friday
session
and
start
having
something
on
Mondays.
Oh.
D
Yeah
yeah,
really
it
was
mentioning
to
well
I,
put
also
a
message.
I
mentioned
this
to
to
Reggie,
but
there's
also
some
massage
in
in
the
TC
Channel.
Basically
mentioning
the
not
everybody
voted
so
yeah,
let's
see
either
11
A.M
or
12
p.m.
Pacific
Time
Mondays
will
be
a
triage
session
for
another
North
America,
so
yeah
and.
A
D
Then
you
voters,
okay,
so
that's
good,
like
I
think
Bachmann
is
like
it
could
be
really
amazing.
We
can
facilitate
that.
He
comes
you
know
because
he
hasn't
been
around
for
this
one,
so
he
could
be
really
good,
I
mean
and
me
we
already
created
the
event
which
will
be
2
p.m.
European,
Central,
Time,
Central
Time
on
Mondays
as
well.
For
that
and
just
through
it,
as
you
may
have
also
seen
he
mentioned,
that
he
could
even
make
it
sometimes
it's
kind
of
early
but
he's
up.
C
Yeah,
this
is
amazing,
I,
I,
I
think
the
value
is
like.
If
people
open
some
issue,
for
example
on
Friday
afternoon,
they
don't
have
to
wait
for
a
week.
Monday
we'll
just
change
the
issue
and
we'll
tell
them
you
have
to
come
to
the
Tuesday
meeting.
Then
yeah,
that's
great.