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A
A
Good
afternoon,
hey
how's
it
going
good.
How
are
you
pretty
good,
I'm
new,
hey
nice,
to
meet
you.
Your
name
is
dave
yeah,
I'm
bob
nice
to
meet
you.
B
I
work
at
a
company
called
traceable
and
we
have
a
project
we're
working
on
called
hypertrace
paper
trace
when
we
have
a
customer
who
is
probably
about
50
of
their
services
are
in
php
and
they
haven't
instrumented
them.
Yet
so,
oh
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
status
of
the
of
the
php
stuff
is.
So
we
can
let
them
know.
A
A
B
A
D
A
B
B
A
B
If
we
have
a
again
a
customer
who
is
or
a
user,
I
should
say
it's
a
free
project
who
has
not
instrumented
their
php
code
because
they
just
haven't
found
anything
they
felt
was
like
production
grade.
I
guess
or
ready
for
that.
B
So
the
question
just
simply
is
like
where,
where
are
we
out
on
that?
What
can
I
tell
them
about
the
php
project
and
what
whether
or
not
they
should
use
it
or
not,.
A
Got
it
yeah,
so
we
are
not
production.
We
are
not
production
ready,
not
even
close,
we're
still
on
zero
zero
one
alpha
for
our
project.
We
have
we're
making
progress,
but
I
would
guess
that
we're
probably
six
months
away,
at
least
from
being
production
ready,
maybe
more
depending
on
how
many
contributors
we
have
and
how
the
project
continues
to
move
along.
We
don't
have
nearly
enough
contributors
to
make
an
effective
production
ready
piece
of
software
currently,
but
we're
working
on
garnering,
more
and
more
developers
and
we're
working
on
continuing
continuing
to
develop
the
product.
A
So
the
thing
that
I
can
tell
you,
I
can
tell
you
that
right
now
a
really
good
solution
if
they
need
it,
is
to
use
open
census
and
use
the
open,
telemetry
collector
and
then
later
they
should.
We
should
be
able
to
drop
in
the
open,
telemetry,
php
library
and
still
use
the
open
symmetry
collector
got
it.
Okay,
that's
good
answer
and
the
open
telemetry
collector
is
good
for
many.
Many
other
things
too.
It's
like
a
very
good,
centralized
place
to
deposit
traces
and
have
them
collated
and
sent
to
your
back
end
of
choice.
A
So
I
think
if
I,
if
I
were
in
your
position
now,
that's
the
methodology
that
I
would
take.
Unfortunately,
then
you'll
have
to
instrument
the
open,
open,
sense
and
stuff
with
open
telemetry,
but
that
is
the
most
stable
php
library.
Now
it's
not
perfectly
stable,
but
it
is
more
stable
than
our
library
at
the
current
moment.
Unfortunately,
that
will
be
a
lot
of
extra
work.
If
you
have
to
instrument
twice.
B
Yeah,
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
that's
worth
it
to
them,
but
it
may
be
and
and
it's
an
it's
a
library-
that's
that's
the
approach.
Is
anybody
in
any
way
creating
agents
for
these,
or
are
they
mostly
all
libraries.
A
We
we
don't
currently
have
any
agents,
yet
that's
probably
going
to
be
on
the
room
at
some
place.
We've
probably
we're
working
on
getting
our
library
to
a
1.0
ga
before
we
start
working
on
any
agents
for
open
telemetry,
php.
A
A
They
might
have
so
got
it,
so
the
lowest
version
of
php
that
our
library
that
our
library
will
ever
support
is
7.3.
That's
because
we
use
the
hr
time
package,
which
is
a
very
high
resolution,
clock
package
and
it's
not
available
for
hp
versions
of
four
or
seven
three.
So
if
they
don't
have
a
modern
version
of
php,
then
open
sensors
is
probably
still
going
to
be
their
best
bet
permanently.
Unfortunately,
they
stop
active
development
on
it.
B
B
A
Or
if
they
decide
that
they
want
to
instrument
one
of
their
50
with
open,
telemetry
php,
and
they
want
to
give
us
meaningful
feedback,
we
will
take
action
on
it.
We
don't
really
have
that
many
production-facing
users
yet
so
that
might
be
a
really
great
way
for
us
to
garner
some
feedback
and
for
them
to
like
push
our
library
more
towards
the
ga.
B
Right
yeah,
I
certainly
will
ask
them
and
we
have
one
developer,
who
is
potentially
available,
but
we're
all
slammed
right
now.
So
it's
I
don't
think
he'll
say
yes
right
now,
but
if
they
can,
if
we
can
get
them
to
participate
then
maybe
he
will.
B
A
B
A
We
have,
I
think
we
have
roughly
30
open
issues
now,
and
those
would
be
really
great
to
get
to
get
help
with
the
spec
is
the
spec
for
tracing
has
just
been
finalized
on
the
15th
of
february,
so
being
able
to
it's
nice
now
that
we
don't
have
a
moving
target
for
a
long
long.
While
we
had
a
moving
target
for
the
spec
that
we're
implementing
towards.
But
now
we
don't
have
that
anymore.
B
A
Not
off
the
top
of
their
head,
but
if
you
need,
if
feel
free,
to
see
me
on
any
emails
that
you
have
if
they
have
specific
questions
about
open,
telemetry,
php
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
them.
A
We're
talking
about
some
of
the
next
steps
of
our
work
and
then
next
the
next
piece,
the
next
things
that
we
have
to
work
on
for
the
library
issues,
blockers
stuff
like
that.
So
that
may
not
may
or
may
not
be
relevant
to
you.
So.
B
Yeah,
probably
not
because
I
don't
have
much
to
contribute
or
provide
I'm
not
coding
these
days,
but
that's
why
I
let
you
go
first,
the
meeting
I
figured
that
you
wouldn't.
B
Yeah,
I
appreciate
that
maybe
I'll
just
put
you
guys
on
or
put
myself
on
mute
for
a
little
bit
and
I'm
just
kind
of
curious,
just
kind
of
what
subjects
in
general,
but
I
don't
have
any
particular
questions
and
I'll
probably
jump
off
after
a
little
bit.
Sure
no
problem
come
on
thanks.
A
Yep
all
right
so
amber
and
abuse.
Do
you
guys
have
anything
that
you
want
to
bring
up
before
we
before?
I
start
my
spiel.
A
Amber's
amber
he's
our
new
intern
this
this
quarter.
He
was
the
one
that
we
selected
for
the
internship
and
we're
really
excited
to
have
him
he's
going
to
work
on
the
user
research
feedback
document,
like
all
the
things
that
dar
labor
came
up
with
for
that
and
write
some
documentation
for
us,
and
you
know
just
be
a
general
evangelist,
which
is
a
good
thing.
So
we're
excited.
C
C
Great
to
have
you
here
yeah,
I
don't
have.
Oh
sorry,
I
was
gonna
say
in
addition
to
that,
I
don't
have
any
updates.
I
just
was
starting
the
otlp
exporter
work
this
week.
A
Cool,
so
are
you?
Are
you
planning
on
taking?
Are
you
planning
on
taking
the
existing
pr
and
just
building
off
that?
Are
you
gonna
wipe
it
clean.
C
E
C
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
I
don't
think
you
have
to
worry
about
that
because
I
haven't
heard
from
him
since
december,
so
I
think
that
he's
yeah
with
that
and
not
for
lack
of
drawing
I've
emailed
him
and
sent
him
a
bunch
of
slack
messages
and
he
just
hasn't
responded.
So
I
think
that
it's
all
right,
if
you
just
go
ahead
with
it,
I
don't
think
his
feelings
are
going
to
be
hurt.
If
they
are
then
I'll,
be
like
hey,
you
didn't
respond
for
three
months
like
it's.
A
A
C
It
was,
I
was
just
gonna
say
it
was
pretty
cool,
though
I
actually
took
tracing
data
and
I
sent
it
to
our
back
end,
not
with
the
not
with
the
otlp
exporter,
but
I
made
a
really
basic
new
relic
exporter,
so
it
was
pretty
cool
to
see
the
the
tracing
data
there.
It
went
all
the
way
through
it
was
accepted.
C
C
Share
it,
but
it's
really
it's
bare
bones
like
because
you
know
there's:
no,
there
was
no
error,
checking
like
a
certain
number
of
messages
and
stuff,
but
even
one
thing
I
can't
and
it
needs
a
it
needs
a
license
key,
but
you
can
get
free
license
keys,
but
even
the
zip
code
exporter.
I
started
with
that
one
first,
because
we
also
accepted
zip
code
format
and
that
also
sent
so
that
was
just
pretty
cool.
C
If
you
want,
I
can
clean
something
up
and
get
it
in
and
I'll
have
it
pull
a
license.
Key
from
the
environment
and,
like
I
said,
the
license
keys
are
free
for
the
there's.
E
C
Tier
but
yeah,
if
you
want,
I
can
put
that
up,
is
that
something
you're
interested
in
seeing.
A
A
A
Time
if
you'd,
like
ooh,
that
sounds
nice
okay,
I
would.
I
would
like
to
see
that
cool
and
then
I
think
family
said
he
was
working
on
that
test
service
still.
C
A
He's
he's
trying
to
close
out,
did
you
see?
Do
you
have
anything
that
you
wanted
to
talk
about.
E
Nothing
at
this
point,
so
I
wanted
to
jump
on
the
issue
that
that
club
view
and
mention,
but
I
think
I
had
to
get
feedback
from
him,
so
I'll
just
be
waiting.
While
I
keep
on
working
on
the
documentation
issue,
yeah.
A
That's
perfect,
I
think
that
that's
a
really
great
goal,
I'm
sure
darlabour
will
get
back
to
you
on
that
issue.
I
have
guesses
on
what
I
think
he's
looking
for,
but
I'm
not
certain.
So
I
don't
want
to
just
like
give
you
the
wrong
answer
or
whatever
so,
but
if
he
doesn't
how,
if
he
doesn't
respond
by
like
tomorrow
afternoon,
I
will
go
back
in
and
maybe
make
some
suggestions
does
that
work
for.
A
All
right
and
then
I
am
going
to
continue,
continue
working
on
down
some
of
these
issues.
As
I
get
the
chance
to
it
looks
like
we
have
some
new
bugs
that
came
in
for
with
a
an
unmarshalling
of
a
json
array,
so
I
gotta
look
into
that
one
and
then
some
of
the
other
issues
that
are
coming
up.
I
will
also
take
a
look
into.
A
Let's
see
what
else
do
we
have?
What
else
do
we
have?
We
have
some.
What
do
we
have
merged
this
week?
This
week
we
had
the
we
didn't
really
have
we
had
the
tan
weird
is
working
on
the
up
down
some
observer
instrumentation.
He
said
he's
going
to
have
a
pr
backup
for
that
shortly
for
the
metrics
implementation,
so
that
should
be
nice.
A
We
got
our
slack
up
our
slack
communication
update.
So
that's
everybody's
happy
about
that,
so
I
don't
have
to
use
that
garbage
getter
client
anymore.
Let's
see
we
modified
your
spam
status.
Thank
you
for
that
amber.
That
was
a
really
great
pr,
I'm
so
happy
that
they
got
rid
of
all
those
additional
spam
statuses.
I
remember
reading
those
the
first
time
like.
Are
we
really
going
to
use
all
20
of
these
different
spam
statuses
when
we're
trying
to
do
these
implementations.
C
A
Yeah,
it
really
is,
and
then
I
think
jody
still
had
some
work
to
do.
If
you
could
do
me
a
huge
favor,
could
you
ping
her
and
let
her
know
that
we
still
have
to
do
the
rest
of
the
tickets
for
that
document
that
benamen
had
made
and
make
tickets
for
those?
I
know
she
said
she
was
gonna.
Do
it,
I
don't
know
what
what
her
status
for
that
was.
D
B
Hey,
I
just
added
the
questions
that
I
asked
into
the
notes
there
and
I
sure
answered
answered
them
for
you,
so
you
might
just
want
to
just
take
a
look.
I
don't
think
there's
anything
to
concern
yourself
about,
but
maybe
it'll
be
helpful
to
someone.