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cncf-opentelemetry@cncf.io's Personal Meeting Room
B
A
B
Let's
get
started
and
just
go
through
what
we
got
on
the
agenda
and
then
at
the
end,
if
we
want
to
go
through
pr
stuff.
Actually,
let's
start
with
pr
stuff,
because
I've
I
will
be
the
first
to
admit.
I
have
not
been
like
super
proactively
looking
at
the
repo.
If
someone
pings
me,
I
look
at
it,
but
are
we
phillip
and
I
have
problems.
A
Yep
pr's
are
going
in
thanks
flip
for
all
your
reviews
and
when
I
feel
that
we
need
your
help
austin
then
then
I
ping
you
specifically,
but
otherwise
things
have
been
going
in
okay,
I
I
usually
do
it
in
batch
every
couple
of
days
or
so.
If
that's.
B
B
C
There's
some
bot
dependencies
that
are
assigned
austin,
I
think
that's
it.
B
So,
just
since
this
is
sort
of
the
core
group,
I
would
guess
my
current
goal
in
open
telemetry
is
to
actually
step
down
as
maintainer
of
the
sig,
because
I
quite
obviously
do
not
have
the
time
to
dedicate
it
to
dedicated
to
it
anymore.
B
And
I
am
in
the
process
of
working
with
the
gc
on
creating
a
new
community
manager,
project
level,
maintainer
role
that
I
could
transition
into.
That
would
help
me
focus
on
things
that
I
have
sort
of
a
better
institutional
grasp
of
like
coordinating
the
community
days
and
helping
fill
up
with
some
of
the
sort
of
larger
scope
projects
like
paying
people
to
do
things,
but
also
working
on
shared
infrastructure
and
resources.
One
of
those
is
the
actual.
B
Open
telemetry
collector
that
is
sits
behind
that
actually
receives
all
the
telemetry
from
the
website
is
like
being
run
off
of
light
steps,
gcp
account,
and
so
you
know
being
able
to
move
that
into
a
cncf
thing
rather
than
being
kind
of
like
through
me.
So
that
said,
like
I'm,
I'm
happy
that
things
are
continuing
to
like
go
forward.
B
B
B
Other
two
people
that
have
been
like
significantly
involved
in
the
docs
and
website
stuff
for
a
while.
So
if
you
two
want
to
talk
like,
I
don't
know
what
your
all's
desire
for
more
involvement
is,
or
if
this
is
something
that
you'd
be
interested
in,
then
you
know,
let
me
know,
and
I
would
be
happy
to
like,
plus
one
the
change.
B
I
think
I
might
just
be
able
to
do
it
on
my
own,
because
I'm
yeah,
I
think
I
could
just
unilaterally
edit
docs
maintainers
so.
A
Mean
I'm
I
I'm
happy
to
to
work
with
philip.
On
that
I
mean
the
only
thing
I
definitely
have
to
coordinate.
Of
course,
internally
is
like
hey
how
much
more
bandwidth
can
I
can
I
assign
to
that.
I
mean
like
you
all.
Everybody
has
a
day
job
as
well.
I
mean
it's
also
around
open
telemetry
but
yeah.
It's
always
a
struggle,
but
but
I
I
can,
I
can
definitely
see.
Do
you
think.
B
A
A
We
do
a
one-on-one
and
talk
about
it
and
how
to
how
to
coordinate
and
maybe
yeah
whatever
makes
sense.
B
Yeah,
if
maybe
the
the
I
think
for
the
ai
here
should
be
you
two
go
back
to
your
your
managers
and
be
like
hey
here's.
This
opportunity
is
this
something
that
is
in
the
scope
of
what
I'm
doing,
and
you
know
I
could
get
more
time.
B
You
know
and
then,
once
you
have
kind
of
an
answer
either
way,
then
you,
the
three
of
us,
can
sit
down
and
like
chat
about
it
one-on-one
and
I
can
kind
of
go
through
other
stuff
that,
although
there's
I
don't
think,
there's
really
any
other
stuff
that
isn't
that
you
all
aren't
already
aware
of,
but
I
can
at
least
re.
You
know
read
you
into
the
like
history
of
the
website
and
sort
of
know,
sort
of
the
the
longer
term
stuff
I've
been
working
on
the
background.
D
B
A
So
austin
you'll
still
be
around
I'll.
B
Still
be
around,
like
I'm,
not
gonna
like
stop
participating
in
this
sig,
but
I
I
I
imagine
I
will
continue
to
be
a
very
regular
attendee,
but
you
know
I've
also
been
doing
this
for
four
years
now,
like
being
kind
of
the
website
person
for
open
tracing
and
open
telemetry,
and
I
feel
like
given
my
responsibilities,
my
professional
my
non-open
telemetry
professional
responsibilities,
I'm
just
I
I
have
let
this
part
of
you
know.
I
have
not
been
a
great
like
steward
of
website
stuff,
so
I'm
trying
to.
A
Make
sense
I
was
asking
in
the
sense
that
if,
if
you
were
going
to
step
down
and
step
away,
then
there
may
be
some
account
ownership
issues
that
would
need
to
be
transferred,
such
as
google
search
and
things
like
that.
But
if
you're,
if
you're
going
to
be
around.
B
B
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
next
topic:
adding
spanling
sample
to
traces.
D
I
put
that
there,
but
then
I
think
it
was
patrice.
Possibly
phillip
provided
an
example,
so
perhaps
we
don't
actually
need
to
discuss
it.
A
Good
yeah,
it
was
phillip
thanks,
phillip.
C
A
C
Yeah
so
yeah,
I
think
the
the
main
thing
there
is
so
like
some
of
this
exists
in
some
of
the
getting
started
content
already,
but
but
like
language
specific
and
so
there's
like
there's
like
a
subset
of
like
the
json
object,
that's
dedicated
to
a
link.
You
probably
just
copy
paste
that
directly
into
like
the
the
language
agnostic
sample
of
a
span
that
that
you've,
augmented
here
and
like
make
up
some
field
names
or
something
like
that.
So
it's
it's.
B
B
So
I
know
we
got
a
couple
of
prs
or
get
one
prn
on
that
that
reorganized
it
a
little
bit
and
I
think
that's
been
actually
how's
that
done
on
analytics.
Let
me
look.
A
So
there's
one
pr
to
add
the
collector
status
and
after
changing
the
overall
status
to
mixed,
it
seemed
to
be
accepted
unilaterally,
so
that
went
in
and
then,
since
I
needed
to
move
the
specification
status,
which
was
pretty
much
the
content
of
all
of
the
status
page.
Well,
I
had
to
put
something
in
there,
so
I
put
those
links
a
link
to
the
specification
status,
the
collector
status
and
then
just
a
comment
for
now
for
the
language
sdks.
D
Yeah,
I
just
did
one
last
night
doing
the
the
flex
layout.
I
just
reused
the
button
styling,
so
it's
not
complete
by
any
means,
but
it's
a
step
along
the
way,
and
I
wanted
to
get
everyone's
thoughts
and
suggestions
on
it.
D
Thinking
that,
if
that
was
the
way
to
go,
let
me
find
a
pr.
D
I
was
just
thinking
if
we
just
decided
that
that
direction
made
sense,
then
we
could
basically
reuse
extend
some
button
styling
to
make
sort
of
square
blocky
buttons.
A
D
B
A
A
C
I
I
like
it
overall,
I
mean
like
the
page,
doesn't
have
to
be
particularly
fancy
like
it's
very
clear
click
this.
If
this
is
the
specific
thing
you're
interested
in,
like
maybe
there's
ways
to
make
it
look
a
lot
better
on
desktop
or
whatever,
but
like
the
core
function
of
this
page,
I
think,
is
very
well
represented.
D
B
You
know
if
they
were
a
bit
bigger
and
sort
of
like
you
had
the
you
know,
it
was
just
like
four
by
whatever
or
some
you
know
something
where
kind
of
like
each
target.
Each
link
sort
of
fills.
B
More
space,
just
so
it
like
I
mean
this
is
very
utilitarian,
which
is
fine,
but
from
like
a
designee
point
of
view,
I
think
my
my
thought
with
the
from
a
design
point
of
view.
Is
they
all
blend
together
right?
Also
that
white
on
yellow
here
is.
B
D
B
Yeah,
you
could
also
there
is
a
in
the
css
already
colors
for
like
if
you
look
like
the
registry,
css,
there's
color
mappings
for
like
each
language.
If
we
wanted
to
like
make
python
the
same
color
in
status
as
it
is
in
registry,
it's
all
based
off
of
like
the
github.
A
A
Other
than
that,
if
we
could
get
this
in
and
then
maybe
see,
if
we
want
a
rainbow
of
colors
for
languages
which
my
first
intuition
is,
we
might
not
want,
but
it'll
be
easier
to
assess.
Once
we
see
it.
B
D
B
Of
text,
but
that
can
be
sort
of
you
know
like
we
can
play
around
with
it.
We
don't
have
to
let
the
perfect
be
the
enemy.
The
good
enough.
B
B
B
C
I
don't
know
if
you
all
have
been
doing
this,
but
I
know
that,
like
the
magic
black
box
of
google
is
like,
if
other
authoritative
sources
link
to
something,
then
it's
like
bring
tire
or
some
yeah.
I
mean
we've
been
yeah.
We've
been
doing
that
on
the
non-income
docs,
just
like
I've
been
planting
links
to
like
this
website
as
much
as
I
can,
wherever
it
makes
sense.
Yeah.
B
We
were
working
on
it
on
our
redo
of
the
docs
pages,
but
the
adriana
has
been
working
on
that,
but
she's
been
on
vacation.
So
hopefully,
here
in
the
next
couple
months,
we'll
get
all
that
done.
B
If
we
can
get
these
with
anchor,
if
we
get
anchors
to
the
status
and
releases
on
all
these,
then
I
think
that
will
be
good
for,
for
this
yep
comment
great
and
then
we
can
keep
going
on
1570.
D
Yep
just
want
to
double
check
anchors.
Do
you
mean
page
anchors,
or
do
you
mean
the
the
status
anchors
that
we
have.
C
Yeah
so,
as
some
of
you
are
aware
aware,
certainly
austin
has
I've
managed
to
get
some
finance
folks
at
honeycomb
to
set
aside
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
like
give
to
contributors
to
open
telemetry
and,
like
specifically
like
see,
if
there's
a
way
to
like
incentivize,
more
useful,
like
contributions
to
parts
of
the
project
where,
like
we
want
to
get
those
kinds
of
contributions,
and
so
I
talked
with
several
folks
like
maintainers,
especially
at
community
day
about
like
hey.
C
So
let's
say
there
was
a
like
a
way
to
like
provide
monetary
incentive
for
like
contributions.
C
C
C
So
then
I
talked
with
the
gc
a
little
bit
about
it,
because
you
know:
there's
like
a
desire
from
the
honeycomb
side
to
like
hook
up
with
the
cncf
somehow
and
like
have
something
to
like
talk
about
for
like
kubecon
north
america.
But,
like
you
know,
it's
probably
a
lot
better.
If
we
try
something
smaller
first
and
like
see
what
actually
works
and
what
doesn't
work.
And
so
I
can
like
I'm
happy
to
put
my
hand
up
and
be
like.
C
I
can
take
point
on
like
if
we
wanted
to
have
like
a
very
targeted
set
of
like
incentivized
things
around
improving
docs
and
like
specific
things,
to
improve
in
docs.
I'm
willing
to
like
spend
the
time
to
actually
handle
that
and
see.
If
there's
a
way
like
sort
of
see
how
it
goes
before,
there's
any
kind
of
like
hey
by
the
way
we
we've
done
this
because
the
the
gc
also
agreed
they
were
like
yeah
in
theory.
C
We
would
love
to
do
this,
but
we
need
to
like
have
some
sort
of
like
model
for
how
it
works
and
not
incentivize
the
wrong
behaviors.
C
Yeah
that
that's
where,
like
there's
some
specific
stuff,
that
I
that
I
outline
there.
C
C
These
are
very
specific,
like
you
know,
improving
so
like,
for
example,
more
complete
documentation
for
configuring.
The
open,
telemetry
collector
there's
some
work
that
I
would
have
to
do
to
be
like
define
like
okay,
but
like
what.
What
are
some
of
those
gaps?
What
are
some
of
the
issues
that
we
could
represent
for
those
gaps
so
that
those
are
specific
things
that
people
could
then
could
then
do
and
yeah?
The
criteria
is
like
it
has
to
be
actually
be
merged,
like
a
pull
request
doesn't
count.
C
C
This
is
sort
of
like
updating
samples
creating
like
new
samples
for
different
languages.
Details
can
be
like
figured
out
in
terms
of
how
to
put
those
in
the
right
place
because,
like
some
languages,
they
they
have
like
like
a
sample
sub
directory
and
like
when
I
talked
with
aaron
who's,
one
of
the
go
maintainers
he's
like.
C
B
B
Like
I
feel
like
I
I
I
yeah,
I
think
in
my
mind
the
the
thing
that
I
have
a
hard
time
justifying
about
this
from
a
doc's
perspective.
Specifically,
is
the
care
and
feeding
over
time
right
like
it's
not
enough
to
just
yes,
you
can
just
go
like
we
could
go.
We
do
the
digital
ocean
thing
and
say,
like
oh
write,
a
tutorial,
you
know.
B
But
so
much
of
the
underlying
like
bits
and
bobs
here
are
still
shifting
and
changing
like
with
some
exceptions,
but
the
exceptions
are
the
things
that
we
actually
have
like:
okay
docs
for
right,
but
I
would
even
say
like
making
the
collector
docs
more
complete.
That's
really
challenging,
considering
the
collector
is
still
like
not
1.0
and
breaks
things
on
pretty
much
every
release.
B
A
B
C
Specific
problems
that,
like
people
have
often
times
and
just
knowing
how
to
use
the
thing
or
like
this
auto
instrumentation
module,
is
like
missing
or
like.
I
don't
know
how
to
use
this
thing
right.
Just
the
most
important
thing
is
like
that
class
of
problem
is
solved
and,
like
the
marketing
aspect
of
it,
is
kind
of
like,
like
a
nice
to
have.
B
Yeah,
like
you
said,
I
have
no
like
major
complaints
of
right.
I
have
no,
you
know,
I'm
not
like
saying.
No,
don't
do
it
right.
I
do
think
that
from
a
sustainability
point
of
view
or
making
sure
that
we're
not
just
getting
like
one.
This
is
a
question
of
your
time
like
your
time
as
sort
of
the
pm
of
this
would
be.
B
Let's
assume
this
is
very
popular
right:
50,
000
bucks
is
a
lot
of
money
and
your
price
points
are
low
enough
that
you
would
get
a
lot
of
people
before
you
burn
through
your
campaign
budget
here.
So.
A
B
Can
we
scope
this
down
to
if
and
would
scoping
it
more
precisely
to
be
like
hey?
This
has
to
be
stuff
that
is
1.0
and
is
thus
not
going
to
need
a
lot
of
changes
or
is
at
least
not
going
to
need
a
lot
of
like
something
that
we
can
actually
pretty
much
guarantee
is
going
to
be
useful
for
a
long
period
of
time.
B
B
C
C
Oh
yeah,
I
was
just
like
if
someone
was
like
hey,
I
want
to
write
the
metric
stocks
for
russ,
I
would
probably
say
no,
but
if
they're
like
hey,
I
want
to
like,
like
you,
have
this
issue
created
about
like
getting
started
with
rust
and
like
using
the
tracing
package
that
is
compatible
with
open
telemetry
versus,
like
the
hotel
apis
and
like
I
want
to.
Like
add
that
documentation.
I
would
be
like
yes,
absolutely.
B
B
D
If,
if
there
are
enough
members
of
the
community
who
are
interested
in
growing
this
and
incentivized,
then
this
may
be
in
a
way
to
do
it
and
the
the
reason
I'm
bringing
that
up
is
because
quite
separately
from
this
I've
been
talking
to
someone
who's
been
working
with
getting
women
primarily,
but
also
people
from
diverse
backgrounds.
D
I
hate
that
term
more
easily
able
to
get
their
first
commits
in
and
accepted,
and
so
this
made
me
think
perhaps
there's
a
cross
over
here
where
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
various
areas
looking
at
various
initiatives,
looking
at
getting
addressing
the
diversity
problem
in
open
source,
and
I'm
wondering
if
that's
that
sort
of
crossover
is
something
that
may
be
useful
here
so
rather
than
opening
it
up
broadly,
focusing
on,
let's
say:
there's:
there's
an
open
source
track
at
grace.
D
Hopper
conference
and
a
big
part
of
the
grace
hopper
conference
is
women
and
fam
identifying
people
who
are
coming
into
the
industry
with
scholarships
and
so
on,
and
you
know
we.
We
all
know
that
one
of
the
hardest
parts
is
getting
through
that
barrier
of
your
first
commit.
D
If
this
can
be
tied
with
that
in
some
way,
this
seems
what
am
I
trying
to
say
it
seems
like
it
could
be
a
win-win,
because
it
would
require
someone
to
get
involved
and
it
could
be
their
project
that
they
then
become
committed
to,
and
you
know
not
just
for
the
whatever
amount
of
money
but
wants
to
continue
to
contribute.
B
B
You
so
like
just
maybe
you
are
thinking
about
doing
it
this
way,
but
I
don't
know,
but
let's,
let's
pretend
you
aren't
so
you
have
a
you
know
we
we
actually
have
a
bunch
of
knowledge
about
like
what
do
we
think
you
know.
Where
are
the
pain
points
where
what
are
the
paper
cuts?
What
needs
to
be
fixed?
Okay,
so
we
have
some
list
of
that
already.
Those
can
be
translated
into
pretty
well
scoped
and
defined
issues
in
github.
B
There
are
other
things
that
we
know
we
want
to
do
that.
Don't
exist
as
issues
right
now,
so
you
know,
go
create
those
and
write
them
up
scope
them
down,
get
it.
You
know
to
digestible
chunks,
maybe
the
then.
What
would
you
say
is
hey
here's
this
here's,
this
fund,
here's
our
honey
bucks,
here's
our
busy
bee
dollars,
whatever.
B
B
And
then
say
like
hey:
if
you
would
be
here's
and
then
you
put
your
and
then
you
have
your
website
that
has
like
okay.
These
are
the
other
sorts
of
things
that
we're
interested
in
that
we
would
pay
you
for,
but
you
need
to
actually
like
write
it
up
as
a
proposal
and
we
have
to
say
yes,
we
would
accept
this
right,
like
I
think
the
thing
that
would
make
it
work
in
the
short
term.
B
You
know
in
the
short
term
at
least
is
very
suspiciously
saying
like
here's,
the
things
that
we
know
we
need
help
on
or
we
know,
needs
worked
on,
and
that
would
also
let
you
kind
of
parallelize
the
scoring
of
those
proposals
a
little
bit,
because
then
you
could
even
say
it's
like
okay.
Your
proposal
has
to
include
like
what
are
you
doing?
What
problem
does
it
solve?
B
You
know-
and
maybe
we
even
say
like.
Oh
stuff,
like
this,
is
probably
gonna.
You
know
a
complete
end-to-end
tutorial
about
like
building
about
you
know,
collector
security
or
whatever
is
going
to
be
worth
more
than
fixing
like
these
two
or
three
other
things,
but
at
least
we
can
kind
of
look
the
proposal
and
be
like
yeah.
We
think
you're
good
for
it.
C
Another
thing
comes
to
mind
in
terms
of
making
categories
of
things
that
more
people
could
could
contribute
to
just
like
what
are
there,
like
sorts
of
general
website
improvement
things
like
I'm
a
web
developer.
I
may
not
really
know
a
whole
lot
about
open
telemetry
but,
like
I
do
know
how
to
make
websites
better.
Are
there
things
that,
like
we
would
like
to
get
done?
We
just
can't
really
seem
to
find
the
time
for
and
hey.
I.
B
C
Yeah.
Because
because
I
mean
part
of
the
the
whole,
like,
you
know,
purpose
of
like
problems
that
we're
solving
here,
like
improving
navigability
of
the
site,
proving
accessibility
of
the
site
like
making
it
so
that
it's
just
easier
to
read
the
content
that
you
need
in
the
first
place.
Regardless
of.
If
it's
there.
B
Yeah,
I
need
to
call
time
for
myself
because
I
have
an
army
to
get
to
and
it's
top
of
the
hour
do
we
want
to
continue
this
async.