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D
B
My
airpods
and
that
machine
is
always
pairing.
C
D
C
D
I've
seen
I've
seen
some
people
saying
on
twitter.
That
java
runs
about
twice
as
fast
on
the
m1
as
it
does
on
like
the
best
laptop
intel
or
android.
B
Yeah,
I
actually
I'm
kind
of
shocked
at
the
staying
power
of
minecraft,
because
this
is
just
something
that
kids
like
about
everything.
It's
amazing,
yeah
and-
and
it's
great
for
like
on
twit.
Like
that's,
my
daughter,
still
watches
like
that's
all
like
the
twitch.
You
know
watching
game
people
game
in
my
crap
minecraft
is
still
huge
and
it
was
huge
when
my
son
was
like
tiny,
also
yeah.
C
B
All
right,
let
me
find
a
minute.
This
takes
me
so
long
to
get
going
in
meetings
here.
I
figured
out
how
to
share
now,
and
I
think
am
I
sharing.
D
Released
then
we
can
just
release
yeah
dot
net
released,
probably
before
they
should
have.
D
D
C
C
D
It
seems
real,
I
mean
that
seems
like
a
very
reasonable
date.
I
did
I
don't
know
if
you
noticed,
I
did
get
the
spring:
sleuth
hotel,
upgraded,
o16
merged
today,
so
yeah.
That
was
good.
It
was
interesting.
There
are
definitely
some
some
things
I
had
to
figure
out
with
the
immutability
of
the
sdk
now,
but
especially
the
tests
use
the
dynamics
like
they
used.
They
changed
the
sampler
out,
they
swapped
the
sampler
out
previously.
D
There
is
a
very,
very
heavyweight
testing
framework
around
spring
sleuth
that
took
me
a
long
time
to
wrap
my
head
around.
Let's
just
put
it
that
way,
the
tests
are,
in
my
opinion,
one
of
like
the
a
cardinal
sin
of
testing
is
to
have
a
huge
testing
framework
that
makes
it
really
hard
to
understand
what
it
is
you're
testing,
and
they
have
definitely
done
a
lot
of
that.
So
there's
like
a
hierarchy
of
test
classes
with
a
whole
bunch
of
implications,
and
anyway
it's
yeah.
D
Is
just
delete
tests
if
it's
too
annoying,
I
think
they
were
good.
They
were
definitely
good
tests
like
they
have
actually
tests
that
async
stuff
works
with
spring
sleuth
and
all
sorts
of
actually
really
solid
tests.
But
the
issue
was
that
their
testing
framework,
like
they
had
built
it
all
around
using
the
global
and
so
in
order
to
undo
the
global
had
to
figure
out
how
their
testing
framework
was
built
so
that
I
could
not
use
the
globals
so
anyway,
there's
no
more
globals
in
spring
sleuth,
which
is
good.
D
Spring
boot,
not
by
our
stuffing
or
whatever
they're
they're,
smooth
config-
I
don't
know-
I
didn't
really
rock
the
structure
of
that.
But
yes,
it's
all
their
own
custom.
Actually
it's
probably
worth
at
some
point
taking
a
look
at
the
way
they
built
their
config
and
seeing
if
we
could
replace
some
of
it
with
auto
config.
D
But
I
have.
D
G
C
D
Because
we
know
who's
yeah
if,
if
bogdan's
pr
into
the
specs
to
make
it
require
a
a
whole
like
submitted
document
before
things
can
be
improved.
That
happened
I
mean
I
don't
even
know
like.
Is
that
gonna
happen?
I
I
don't
have
any
idea,
so
I
mean
at
this
point.
I
think
we're
ready
from
our.
From
my
perspective,
at
least,
I
think
we
I'd
be
happy.
Really
it's
pretty
much
at
any
time.
D
D
Yeah
exactly
it
might
be
good
to
get.
I
know
that
we're
like
we're
releasing
our
distro.
I
mean
I
don't
know
jason,
probably
within
the
next
day
or
so.
D
No
that's
my
expectation
yeah
and
be
good
to
at
least
get
that
in
people's
hands
to
try
out
before
we
cut
things,
don't
expect
them
better
type
of
things
or
yeah.
We
have.
F
C
D
D
Except
this
new
set
all
attributes
that
halo
4
put
in.
B
What
was
sorry,
I
didn't
catch
that
that.
D
Oh
now,
the
the
hotel
resource
attributes
is
put
into
the
default
resource.
If
you
have
auto
configure
on
your
class
path,.
D
C
Okay,
the
way
I
sort
of
think
is:
if
we
didn't
have
that
property,
we
wouldn't
even
be
having
this
discussion.
That's
true!
It's
only
because
we
do
need
that
property,
though,
because
you
can't
just
fill
in
attributes
like
you
can
read
from
the
process
of
user,
doesn't
want
it,
and
so
that's
but
yeah.
So
that's
maybe
just
the
exception
that
we
keep
in
the
sdk,
but.
D
B
D
C
C
D
B
B
B
D
I
really,
I
think,
we're
basically
just
there's
a
lot
of
documentation
and
not
planning
on
making
any
functional
changes.
If
we
can
help
it.
There's
that
one
pr
that
you
have
on
rug,
which
matteo
properly
pointed
out,
has
the
opposite
logic
around
mvars
and
system
properties,
which
I
definitely
would
not
have
noticed
that
I
was
really
glad
that
he
happened
to
see
that
I.
C
C
B
H
B
D
How
do
config
files
fall
into
that
hierarchy?.
E
E
C
Feelings
good
makes
sense,
but
yeah
like
especially
in
the
darker
day,
like
imagine,
your
command
is
baked
into
the
doctor
image
and
it's
much
more
annoying
to
override
the
command
than
just
a
certain
environment
variable.
So
exactly.
D
B
E
A
C
C
B
I
don't
know
what
do
you
see
one
for
like
config
file,
or
does
that
not
really
properties,
yeah
files?
Yeah?
That's.
C
B
E
E
D
A
D
Omniscient
was
they
were
doing,
they
were
the
kind
of
the
no
sampling
tracing
provider.
Tracing
startup
signal
signalfx
is
almost
is
pretty
much
all
metrics
or
metrics
derived
from
tracing.
B
B
All
right,
let's
see,
we
didn't,
have
hey
look.
How
short
our
notes
were
this
morning.
B
So
oh
yeah
josh
sarah
made
it
to
the
meeting
and
wanted
to
talk
about
the
exporter
jar
stuff,
and
so
he
was
interested
in
still
using
the
exporter
jar.
B
For
that
reason
of
basically,
I
mean
the
advantage
to
using
it
minimizing
sort
of
the
surface
area
of
their
their
support
their
contract
and
not
having
to
release
new
versions
of
the
java
agent
each
time.
So
we
did
tell
him
that
we
had
discussed,
removing
it
but
had
decided
to
keep
it.
So
we
will
keep
it
and
you
know
support
that.
B
He
wanted
to
make.
He
wants
to
make
a
change
to
the
class
loader,
the
exporter
class
loader,
to
isolate
it
a
little
bit
more
from
other
third-party
jar
libraries
that
we
have
in
the
agent
class
loader,
so
that
it
only
exposes
the
sdk
and
api
to
the
exporter
class
loader
so
that
he
doesn't
have
to
worry
about
shading
or
other
things
or
version
conflicts
with
other
things.
C
B
C
Yes
make
sense
to
me,
like
I
also
while
we're
doing
this.
Hopefully
we
can
just
confirm
right
because
sdk
will
come
from
the
parent.
It
should
like.
I
haven't
added
if
I've
been
planning
to
add
a
list
of
class
loaders
to
that
initialize
method
in
the
auto
configure.
So
we
can
add
an
exporter
class,
loader
and
load
any
exporters
from
the
exporter
class,
loader
and
auto
configure
that
should
work
right.
C
I
lost
you,
sorry
yeah!
So
I'm
talking
about
the
auto
configure
module
and
how
we
load
exporters
via
sbi,
the
configurable
exporter
provider.
Oh.
F
B
B
C
B
D
C
C
A
B
No,
I
haven't.
I
have
gotten
that
problem
jason
had
in
in
slack
a
couple
of
times
from
again
recently
the
zip
file
problem.
E
It
was
a
gradle
demon,
cash
thing
and
you
have
to
kill
the
greater
demons
yeah.
Yes,
yes,
yeah
yeah.
That
was
a
good
time
thing.
I
I
mean
going
back
to
what
you
were
saying
about
josh,
like
being
good
with
class
letters.
I
think
it's
good
for
the
community,
though,
to
know
like
who
they
can
leverage
like
people
that
are
involved
like
josh
for
class
litters
and,
like
john
for
gradle.
C
B
Yeah
we
did,
we
did
spend
some.
We
had
took
a
whole
section
in
this
morning's
meeting
to
have,
because
I
realized
that
john
had
does
the
the
using
the
notifications
in
github
and
also
the
intellij
pr
integration
have
like
been
so.
I
used
constantly-
and
I
realized
that
I
think
we'd
only
talked
about
it
in
this
meeting
at
this
time.
D
Should
show
honorable
the
magical
question
mark
when
you
in
github,
which
no,
I
don't
think
I
wasn't,
I
was
actually
new
worked
and
then
I
did
it
and
I
was
like
hey
there.
It
is
yeah
yeah,
so
keyboard
shortcuts
from.
E
E
I
didn't
make
my
follow-up
crack
because
it
was
a
bigger
audience,
but
it
was
yeah
and
pretty
soon
their
ide
will
mean
that
you
don't
have
to
use
anything
else
right
like.
E
D
C
B
Oh,
it's
she's
working
on
code,
spaces,
yeah.
B
C
D
I'm
guessing
well
certainly
no
idea
by
the
way,
jason
and
I'm
playing
around
with
the
code
with
me
plug-in
an
idea
for
doing
remote
pair
programming.
It
works
really
well,
it
has
a
few
glitches
still,
but
it's
actually
pretty
cool
and
it
has
they
just
integrated
audio
video
also,
so
you
can
actually
have
like
your
video
in
your
repair
programming
in
idea
built
into
the
ide,
which
is
pretty
cool,
wow.
E
E
D
D
I
had
two
agenda
items
I
wanted
to
talk
about
that.
I
added
one
was
the
metrics
adding
metrics
for
suppressed
spans,
that
pr
has
now
morphed
from
being
logging
to
metrics,
and
I
would
like
folks
to
take
a
peek
at
it.
D
I
added
it
to
the
agenda.
What
was
my
other
item
that
I
added?
Oh
yeah?
I
really
want
to
want
to
tackle
this.
Turning
on
logging
exporters,
when
people
enable
debug
mode
in
the
agent-
and
I
wondered
if
people
had
any
thoughts
about
how
I
haven't-
had
a
look
at
the
code
at
all-
to
see
how
it
would
work,
but
if
there
are
any
thoughts
on
how
feasible
that
would
be
to
make
happen.
E
D
C
D
D
Yeah
jason,
maybe
you
and
I
can
try
pairing
on
that-
to
get
that
in
there,
something
that
would
be
super
powerful,
yeah.
E
Know
I
have
not
at
all
okay
and
what's
the
deal
with
prometheus,
why?
Why
are
those
two
not
compatible.
D
D
C
D
E
Two
days
ago.
It's
22.44.
E
E
And
I
think
I
want
to
take
this
on
because
I
love
http
url
connections
so
much,
but
no,
I
have
a
little
bit
of
experience
with
it
and
it's
it's
kooky.
You
know
I
mean,
I
think
that
most
of
us
here
have
seen
the
internals
of
that
implementation
and
how
spaghetti
it
is.
Yeah
thanks
and
I
think
I
have
an
approach.
I
think
I'm
not
entirely
sure
it
will
work,
but
I
think
it
will-
and
I
just
want
to
see
it
out.
So
that
was
my
one
agenda
item.
B
And
I
will
add
you
to
the
triager.
Actually
I
need
to
add
you
to
the
readme,
but
there's
no,
since
we
know
that
that
is
a
foregone
conclusion.
I
can
add
you.
E
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
I
noticed
that
I
think
the
way
that
github
displays
it
when
somebody
when
you
go
to
file
a
new
issue,
that
it
gives
you
options
and
if
you
choose
bug,
then
it
like
it
puts
your
issue
in
and
then
it
labels
it
on
on
your
behalf
immediately
after
that.
Is
that
correct?
E
I
kind
of
like
the
separation,
I
think,
there's
pros
and
cons
yeah.
I
don't
know
it's
nice,
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
walk
away
from
something
and
not
be
encumbered
or
blamed
or
whatever,
but
I
don't
know,
there's
there's
pros
and
cons
what
what
is
nice,
though,
is
that
like?
If,
if
for
any
reason,
I
have
personal
stuff
that
work
might
frown
upon,
then
it's
not
directly
related
through
an
account.
E
E
I
think
things
are
definitely
more
relaxed
than
they
were
maybe
10
10
years
ago.
So
that's.
E
D
Well,
I
will
say
one
downside
or
maybe
upside,
depending
on
how
you
look
at
it
was.
I
was
apparently
contributing
via
cla
on
behalf
of
new
relic
for
many
months
after
I
left
because
I
signed
I
was
on
their.
I
was
on
their
cla
with
my
personal
github
account,
so.
E
D
D
A
D
B
So
does
it
pull
in?
What's
like
the
list,
let's
say
database,
I
can't
I'm
assuming
it
holds
in
jrpgs.
If
you
go
to.
B
C
B
C
C
C
D
That's
what
I've
been
using,
but
it
destroyed.
My
elbow
gave
me
really
bad
tendinitis
in
my
elbow.
It
does
seem
scary,
like
this
doesn't
seem
like
natural
motion
to
me,
stuff
yeah.
I've
had.
I
have
had
to
take
a
pause
because
my
elbow
has
been
so
bad,
but
I
really
actually
like
it
because
you
don't
have
to
go
anywhere
and
it's
a
pretty
good
workout.
What
are
you
talking
about?
It's
nintendo's
ring
fit
adventure.
D
H
D
B
Oh,
no,
my
internet
connection
is
unstable.
Yeah
in
case
you
didn't
know
in
portland,
where
we're
having
like
the
our
every
five
years,
snowmageddon
we're
like
getting.
You
know
over
an
inch
of
snow,
so.
I
Okay,
what's
what's
that
is
the
target
of
the
the
release?
Okay,
I
I
think
seems
reasonable.
I
don't
see
why
this
is
not
ready
or
anything,
and
the
only
thing
that
we
need
to
be
careful
is
to
to
make
sure
if,
in
the
specs,
we
approve
the
process
of
review
that
we
we
do
that
review,
but
hopefully
we
can
skip
that
or
fast
forward
that,
because
of
all
the
issues
that
we
filed
already
and
stuff.
F
We
can
just
do
anything
we
want
right,
I
mean
dotnet.
C
C
I
For
now
we're
targeting
the
20
seconds
so
so
far.
To
be
honest,
I
think
there
are
very
few
things
that
we
identified,
and
I
don't
know
if
john
did,
you
have
a
chance
in
the
java
meeting
to
go
over
all
the
latest
issues
and
mark
them
after
ga
or
not
like
the
one,
with
the
setput
that
trusk
filed
just
we
need
to
make
a
decision
there
and
to
write
it
down
and
maybe
close
the
issue.
I
One
by
one
there
are,
there
is
another
one
when,
where
I
had
a
nice
chat
with
trask
about
get
empty
versus
empty,
we,
where
we
have
a
small
inconsistency
in
the
sdk
we
use,
get
them
again
can
be
ignored.
Can
we
say
okay,
we
leave
it
as
it
is,
but
I
think
we
just
need
to
close
it.
If,
if
that's
the
case,
yeah.
F
D
Think
we
have
been,
we
had
some
further
commentary
on
it,
but
yeah
we're
still
we're
working
through
them
slowly,
so
some
of
them
are
just
documentation
like
I
got
one
of
the
documentation
ones
in
today,
so
it's
good
we're
getting
there.
D
Somebody's
gotta
go
put
in
sense
tags
on
everything.
Nobody
wants
to
know.
I
If
we
don't
fix
that,
I
would
do
a
opposite
thing
and
just
do
a
remove
of
all
the
things.
I
think
I
still
saw
a
couple
of
scenes
tags
with
zero
for
something
like
that.
Oh
really,
we
we
thought
we
got
rid
of
all
of
them,
but
there's
still
a
few.
You
know
I.
I
would
file
an
issue
right
now
with
to
remove
all
of
them
first
and
then
we
can
decide
if
we
want
to
add.
D
E
C
E
C
I
So
yeah
sorry,
I
don't
want
to
hijack
on
this
discussion
but
happy
if
you
want
to
go
over
all
the
issues
even
now
or
after
this
meeting.
I
can
stay
a
bit
longer
now
and
go
over
all
the
issues
and
close
them.
B
Oh
john,
adding
to
the
agenda
on
the
fly.
D
Oh
yeah,
we
already
talked
about
this
stuff
while
you
were
offline
yeah
so
anyway,
I
just
wanted
people
to
take
a
look
at
this.
I
re
I
tweaked
this
to
not
be
vlogging
but
now
doing
metrics.
So
if
you
take
a
look,
that'd
be
great.
D
B
I
was
just
thinking
like
from
a
debugging
perspective,
like
the
one
downside
I
see
versus
the
log
file
is
like
for
a
log
file.
You
can
ask,
you,
know:
hey,
can
you
post
the
log
file
versus.
D
So
this
is
this
is
coupled
to
the
other
thing
that
I
want
that
I
put
in
the
agenda,
which
is
that
I
think
when
I
want
to
when
you
turn
on
debug
logging.
I
also
want
to
automatically
turn
on
the
metrics
logging
exporter
and
the
span
logging
exporter,
so
you
can
get
that
data
automatically.
Now,
as
honorard
pointed
out,
you
can't
have
the
logging
exporter
and
prometheus
turned
on
so
there's
a
little
to
be
a
little
careful
there,
but.
I
D
Yeah
at
some
point
we
need
to,
and
also
we
could.
I
was
also
thinking
for
metrics.
We
might
want
to
implement
a
little
like
a
pass-through
logging
exporter
that
doesn't
go
through
the
whole
normal
exporter
pipeline,
but
just
turns
on
some
logging
more
at
the
recording
or
more
at
the
aggregation
point
of
view,
this
log,
what's
aggregated
whenever
it's
requested,
rather
than
having
it
as
a
separate
exporter,
still
trying
to
think
through
what
the
appropriate
way
to
do.
That
is,
but
it
feels
like
there
could
be
some
approaches.
D
D
C
D
I
I
have
another
item.
Maybe
the
spam
limits
thing.
I
think,
john
you,
you
made
the
change
to
128
correct
the
default.
Oh
yeah
yeah
the
defaults.
Yes,
the
defaults
have
been
updated.
Do
we
care
about
updating
the
name
of
the.
I
Sure
we
and
we
do
have
an
extra
one.
Do
we
really
need
that
one?
Do
we
implement?
First
of
all,
is
it
implemented
that
one
which
one
was
that
it's
the
maximum
attribute
size?
I
don't
know
if
that
is
you
mean
the
linked
one
nikita
did
implement
that.
D
D
B
This
is
thank
you
for
saying
that
about
large
sql
statements,
so
just
run
my
bill
of
what
this
is
doing.
So
what's
the
default
attribute
side.
I
So
default
can
it
be
treated
as
unlimited?
Sorry,
if,
if
the
specs
adds
this,
because
I
think
there
is
a
pr
and
defines
a
different
remit,
is
it
fine
if
we
move
from
unlimited
to
to
a
specific
limit.
D
So
it
was
interesting
I
was,
I
was
talking
with
josh
surath
about
this
issue
and
he
thinks
that
under
december
it's
totally
fine
to
change
the
behavior
as
long
as
you
don't
break
implementation,
but
it's
all
it's
very
as
long
as
you
don't
break
interface,
but
it
also
in
december.
If
you
read
the
document
carefully,
it
says,
do
whatever
is
best
for
your
community
is
what
is
literally
what
it
says
in
the
document.
C
D
I
mean
this
could
even
be
like
hey.
You
used
to
get
unlimited
now
we're
gonna.
Now
our
new
feature,
we
truncate,
unless
you
say
otherwise
so
anyway,
I
think
it's
not
a
big
deal.
It
doesn't
break
any
interfaces,
it
could
break
some
behavior
and
we'll.
We
can
make
a
call
when,
if
that
happens,
about
whether
we
feel
like
it's
a
significant
thing
for
the
community
or
not.
C
D
B
Cool
anorak
was
there
anything
you
wanted
to
chat
about
on
the
instrumentation
side.
B
C
B
Yeah,
I
thought
that
was
a
compelling
argument,
the
last
time
that
you
brought
up
of
yeah.
You
know
if,
if
we
accept
java
agent
instrumentation
first
and
then
we
redo
and
build
it
on
top,
we're
basically
likely
going
to
you
know,
introduce
bugs
in
a
stable
java
agent
instrumentation.
B
So
even
from
that
perspective,
it's
better
so
yeah
and
nikita
nikita
sounded
like
he
supported
that
go
library,
instrumentation
first
also.
C
A
I
So,
in
order
to
release
on
22nd,
we
really
need
to
not
accept
anything,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
on
the
same
page.
If
we
accept
any
of
the
breaking
change,
we
cannot
release
immediately
on
22nd,
just
if
I
I
think
I
would
like
to
clarify
this
and
not
have
any
discussions
later
that
if
this
happens,
for
whatever
reasons
maintainers
agree
to
do
the
thing
breaking
changes,
we
cannot
do
that.
F
I
F
B
Anything
anything
else
on
your
mind
underwriting
about
instrumentation.
B
We
just
recapped
this
morning
about
sort
of
the
plan
for
to
release
the
java
agent
1-0
within
a
week
after
java,
one
zero.
B
B
I
think
this
goes
away
with
one
zero,
because
we're
gonna
be
backward.
I
think
this.
I
think
that
my
thought
here
was
the
whole
api
stuff
and
we
were
depending
on
at
that
point.
We
were.
Our
snapshots
were
depending
on
the
api
snapshots,
and
so
we
had
this
extra
kind
of
game,
so
you're
not
working.
B
C
And
I
think
we
have
two
dupes
about
documenting
configuration
the
license
and
one
if
you
want
to
just
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
got
your
feedback
if
you
have
any.
B
Oh
yeah,
sorry,
I
have
had
zero
time
the
last
day,
but
I
will
review
I
will
catch
up
tomorrow.
If
that's
all
right.
C
B
B
And
then
you
said
we
had
a
duplicate.
Oh
between
these
two
sort
of
yep
got.
J
J
B
Are
you
suggesting,
then
better
to
just
leave
the
inconsistency.
I
If
we
don't
want
to
fix
it
and
wait
another
two
weeks
for
for
doing
the
release,
because
I
actually
personally
think
okay,
if
there
were
no
pressure
on
releasing
on
22nd
or
something
what
I
would
have
done,
because
this
is
such
a
minor
breaking
change.
As
pointed
before
that
I
would
have
just
added
and
live
with
it
and
whatever,
but
because
we
have
this
strong
20-second
mindset,
I
think
let's
leave
it
as
it
is,
and
that's
it
I
don't
know.
I
I
Maybe
another
option
by
the
way
to
evaluate
would
be
if
we
can,
let's
say
monday,
not
monday
tuesday,
in
the
meeting
that
we
have
with
nikita
and
everyone
mark
all
these
small
breaking
changes
and
maybe
make
a
decision
tuesday,
hey
do
we
want
to
take
another
two
weeks
and
fix
them
or
drop
all
of
them
kind
of
just
collect
them
in
a
set
of
minor
annoyances
like
this
and
see
make
a
decision
then
and
see
how
many
there
are,
and
if
there
are
very
few
probably
we
should
just
leave
them
as
they
are.
I
If
they
are
enough
to
annoy
you
or
anyone,
we
can
fix
them
and
take
the
the
two
weeks
or
something.
So
I
think
that's
another
reasonable
plan
to
just
say,
like
kind
of
mark
them
as
potential
fixes
and
and
discuss
tuesday,
when
we
have
all
these
potential
things
to
fix.
I
J
C
I
H
I
I
I
B
I
No,
the
the
thing
is
for
the
baggage.
There
is
a
two
builder
on
the
baggage.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
I
can
find
that
issue.
The
thing
is
on
the
baggage.
There
is
a
two
builder
which
also
accepts
a
parent,
so
so
it's
it
felt
to
me
very
weird
that
you
start
from
a
bag
or
already
created
baggage.
You
have
a
method
to
builder,
and
then
you,
you
have
the
possibility
to
set
a
parent
for
that
bank.
I
Unless
you
look
at
the
code-
and
that
was
for
me
some
some
things
that
and
I
I
looked-
nobody
is
using
it,
probably
because
it's
weird
as
well,
but
that
would
be
also
a
deprecated
breaking
change.
If
you
remove
that
part,
because.
B
Cool,
so
I
think
we're
good
then.
C
I
Besides
that,
I'm
trying
very
hard
to
decide
or
not
with
the
community
if
the
process
that
we
are
proposing
makes
sense
or
not,
and
please
please
everyone
tell
us
if
you
think
it's
worth
having
it
or
not,
or
you
would
rather
not
have
it,
because
we
are
not
dictators
here.
We
are
asking
for
people
hey.
Besides
of
all
these
big
pics
that
I'm
people
are,
are
telling
us,
nobody
says
their
opinion
about.
Do
you
think
this
is
good
or
bad
to
have
this
process?
So
I
I
would
like
your
opinion.
B
I'm
not
going
to
comment
on
the
pr,
but
I
will
give
you
just
the
very
brief
feedback,
which
is.
I
think
that
it's
great,
I
think
that
it
would
have
been
great
if
it
like
two
months
ago.
I
think
right
at
the
last
minute.
It's
you
know,
sort
of
frustrating
for
some
people,
but
you
know
I
mean
it
is
a
good.
I
don't
think
anybody
really
disagrees
with
the
process.
Just
the
timing,
I
see.
I
That
can
be
also
said.
I
mean
besides
java.
Nobody
is
that
advanced.
I
mean
dotnet
already
skipped
that
so,
let's
ignore
them
besides
java.
Nobody
else
is
that
advanced
and
also
I
had
a
joke.
About.Net
and
I
know
we
are
recorded,
but
the
joke
was
like.
I
don't
think
they
even
had
chance
to
read
the
changelog
from
the
moment
the
the
spec
was
released
to
the
moment
they
released.
B
That's
a
big
milestone.
I
know
you've
been
working
for
a
long
time
very
hard
on
on
making
that
a
reality.
Thanks,
no.
I
I
But
that's
that's
how
I
see
and
for
me
this
process
came
from
the
fact
that
hey
I
I
think
I
think,
when
I
looked
at
goal
when
I
found
that
they
have
a
couple
of
trace
flags,
one
is
debug
and
is
delayed
or
something
like
that
copied
from
from
brave,
and
we
explicitly
say
that
we
should
follow
the
w3c
standards
and
we
don't
have
these
kind
of
things
for
me
was
the
the
wow
moment
when
okay,
I
really
think
we
need
to
to
to
do
this,
because
the
problem
is
once
you
define
these
and
you
define
some
of
the
beats
for
them.
I
It's
going
to
be
super
hard.
If,
if
we
define
that
bit,
2
means
something
I
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
handle
that
so
yeah.
These
are
some
of
the
problems
that
I
found
when
I
was
like.
Oh,
I
think
we
have
to
have
kind
of
a
process
to
look
for
this
kind
of
breaking
change.
I
mean
when
it
comes
to
java
all
these
discussions
that
we
have
about
should
that
be
named.
That
way
that
way,
tc
will
not
have
time
and
will
not
look
for
these
things.
B
I
I
I
Perfect
yeah,
I
I
get
it.
I
get
this
yeah
but
yeah
like.
Maybe
you
don't
want
to
share
this
person
this
thing,
but
there
are
other
things
good
or
bad
about
this.
I
heard
people
saying
that
hey
putting
people
on
the
on
this
process
or
allocating
people
resource
may
be
a
bad
thing
for
for
like
scaling
this
and
stuff.
B
I
B
From
instrumentation,
I
know
that
the
hot
one
is
probably
the
resource
dynamic.
You
know
the
the
in
non
immutable
resources,
but
nikita
you
know
is
on
that.
It
was
kind
of
more
of
the
details.
There.
C
I
don't
think
I
mean
eventually
we'll
need
to
decide
on
the
nested
playing
expense.
Oh
yeah,
that's.
C
I
K
I
People
will
will
do
span
to
string
then
regex
speed
and
extract
fields
from
it.
You
want
to
have
a
bet
on
that.
J
G
B
B
C
I
I
Processors,
readable
span
is
the
interface
correct,
but
we
don't
implement
that
interface
from
from
from
the
main
class.
We
have
a
span
wrapper,
we
did,
we
didn't,
we
do
have
a
protection
there.
I.
K
B
You
know
stability
also,
like
all
we're
saying
with
1.0,
is
bike:
abi
compatibility.
I
B
As
soon
as
the
spec
as
soon
as
tc
blesses,
that.
I
In
the
in
java
this
three
for
me,
the
most
confidence
I
have
in
java
dot
net.
The
biggest
hope
that
I
have
is
the
fact
that
the
framework
is
keep
adding
functionality
directly
into.
J
C
I
So
I
think
that
will
happen
same
with
java
java.
Has
these
whole
tools
of
compiling
java
8
into
java,
7
or.
C
K
B
I
thought
you
do
work
with
enterprises
also
new
relic
shared
their
data
with
us,
their
customer
data,
and
it
was
about
two
and
a
half
percent
of
their
customers
were
on
seven
and
prior,
but
still
two
and
a
half
percent.
Like
yeah
of
a
hundred
thousand
custom.
You
know
people
is
yeah
still
two
thousand
like.
C
I
B
I
I
C
I
I
think
it's
worth
filing
filing
an
issue
in
double
checking,
because
if
you
ever
defined
on
21
at
least
the
api
should
be
on
21..
So
most
likely,
you
need
to
double
check
the
the
api
of
the
of
the
open
telemetry.
I
I
C
I
K
I
Api
common
is
no
longer
oh
yeah
yeah.
B
I
C
C
B
B
You
are
using
this
yeah
who's,
weak
microsoft,
yeah
to
prom.
Isn't
this
the
recommended
way
for
for
spam
processors
to
mutate
spam
data.
K
I
B
Yeah,
so
essentially
that's
what
we
have
is
span
processors
in
the
exporter
pipeline
that
do
what
we've
done
the
problem,
we're
not
using
open,
telemetry,
collector
and
so,
and
so
we
need
some
essentially
some
of
the
features
of
the
collector,
such
as
you
know,
the
changing
the
span,
attributes
band
name,
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
I'm
curious,
why
do
not
do
that
as
a
span
exporter
implementing
the
span,
exporter
interface
and
that
accepts
the
next
span
exporter
and
do
it
as
a
span
exporter
and
you
can
reuse
all
the
processors
like
the
disrupter
one
that
we
have
or
the
batch
one
and
you
don't
have
to
rewrite
the
entire
process
anyway.
Just
a
curiosity
for
you
why
we
don't
do
it
that
way,.
C
I
B
I
I
think
that's
what
you
do
and
that's
what
I
mean:
okay,
yeah,
so
we're
we're
using
spam
exporter
yeah.
You
should
call
it
spam
exporter,
not
processor,
because
whatever
it's
a
component
in
the
exporter
pipeline,
that's
what
I
want.
C
I
Maybe
maybe
rename
it
to
some
kind
of
trace
helper,
whatever
we
call
it,
but
incubator
sounds
sounds
like
if
we
go
with
this
as
one
zero
or
we
still
stick
this
with
alpha.
Well.
C
C
I
I
B
Cool
well
thanks
for
joining
bogdan
good,
to
see
you
you,
both
and
oh
long
weekend
for
everybody.