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Calendars,
someone
I
okay,
let's
get
started,
it's
been
a
day
for
me,
so.
E
Yeah
sure
I
can
do
a
quick,
it's
happening
again
this
year
and
it's
gonna
be
across
four
days
and
half
days
and
short
days,
there's
going
to
be
the
main
live
stream,
and
then
workshops
sponsored
workshops.
E
Apart
from
that,
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
double
down
on
the
value
that
people
are
getting
out
of
it
this
year
and
I
think
at
least
off
the
top
of
my
head.
The
things
that
seem
to
work
really
well
are
being
able
to
drive
engagement
between
attendees
right,
both
sync
and
async.
E
What
I
want
to
balance
and
what
I
want
to
be
respectful
and
sensitive
to-
is
that
there
are
people
in
the
hotel
community
that
are
active,
maintainers
and
contributors,
and
I
appreciate
that
work
a
lot
and
that
that
is
usually
on
nights
and
weekends
and
not
necessarily
they've
also
got
full-time
jobs.
So
to
ask
them
to
be
part
of
this.
E
I
want
to
provide
that
a
bit
more
than
just
dropping
into
the
slack
and
encourage
that,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
put
pressure
on
people
who
are
like
I'm
already
doing
the
work
you
want
me
to
present
about
this
too,
but
there's
a
great
opportunity
and
the
whole
point
of
this
event
is
to
raise
awareness
and
advocate,
for
I
mean
in
very
very
specific
terms,
the
hotel
community,
not
just
observability
as
a
whole.
E
So
that's
that's
really
kind
of
why
I
come
to
the
table
to
ask
the
people
that
might
know
the
best.
Specifically,
how
might
we
encourage?
I
mean
I've
reached
out
to
various
different
people
and
prior
speakers
and
I've
I've
made
the
cfp
very
open.
How
would
we
encourage
cfb
submissions,
specifically
from
the
maintainers
and
contributors
of
otel.
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So
the
the
format
too
also
includes
it's
all
pre-recorded
and
the
only
time
where
people
actually
have
to
show
up
is
essentially
in
async
in
the
discord
you
know.
If
people
have
questions
generate
questions
and
want
to
do
that
and
the
days
of
I
think
again,
you
know
I
prefer
what
people
can
do
over
really
forcing
like
a
forcing
punches
and
say
you
must
be
here
and
blah
blah
blah
so
for
the
speakers
that
want
to
do
live
q,
a
I'm,
I'm
down
with
that.
Absolutely
for
folks.
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Like
I
don't
think
we
I
mean
we,
we
can't
really
act
as
a
like.
We
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
leverage
in
terms
of
being
a
forcing
function.
As
like
a
sig
to
say,
like
hey,
I
mean
other
than
we
can.
You
know
we
can
talk
about
it
on
hotel,
tuesday
or
something
right
like
or
we
can,
I'm
sure
individually,
try
to
help.
I
think
the
the
challenge
in
a
lot
of
ways
is,
you
know,
there's
there's
just
a
lot
of
observability
content
out
there.
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Now
you
know,
have
you
tried
like
going
to
aspecto
or
splunk
or
any
of
these
places
I've
been
putting
out?
You
know
tutorials
and
guides
like
honeycombs.
Also
doing
this
like
every
you
know,
everyone
is
doing
this
sort
of
stuff
right
and
by
and
large
everyone's
you
know
they
aren't
they're
doing
it
on
their
channels.
E
Yeah
and
again,
the
goal
is
not
to
just
generate
content.
The
goal
is
actually
to
get
people
to
to
feel.
Like
oh
wow,
there's
I
mean
this
isn't
just
a
pr
to
some
random
person
is
to
actually
actively
engage
with
the
folks
to
to
become
part
of
the
community
and
haven't
have
a
space
where
it
feels
like
wow.
E
You
know
people
showed
up
and
we're
welcome
so
that
that,
in
in
in
very
real
terms
and
sure
knows
about
this,
like
when
I
level
set
it
and
did
a
kick
off
last
month
of
the
organizers,
my
main
goal
is
to
drive
meaningful
engagement
between
people.
That
include
not
just
you
know,
random
people
who
are
new
to
the
community,
but
also
to
bring
the
people
who
have
and
foster
the
work
in
the
community
to
actually
make
those
people
feel
welcome.
So
so
anyway.
E
The
point
is
not
to
not
answer
the
question
now,
but
to
just
kind
of
put
it
in
the
minds
of
the
folks
who
are
here,
and
if
you
have
any
other
ideas
I
mean
we
can.
You
can
just
put
them
in
the
document.
Any
other
questions
and
I'll
follow
up
with
them
in
the
document.
E
E
That's
that's
me
providing
not
just
a
shout
out
like,
but
like
actually
really
trying
to
drive
and
encourage
people
who
are
new,
whether
it's
docs
or
whether
it's
tutorials
or
whatever.
It
is
right
to
really
be
part
of
the
contribution
pool
in
a
way
that
actually
the
project
itself
really
needs
it,
and
I'm
not
as
close
as
some
other
folks
to
what
are
the
real
needs.
So.
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I
think
the
biggest
upcoming
thing
is
just
kind
of
awareness
around
metrics
and
you
know
both
from
not
necessarily
from
an
implementation
standpoint,
but
certainly
from
a
like
how
to-
and
you
know,
advocacy
point
of
view
like
that's
kind
of
the
big
new
thing
and
that's
you
know,
there's
quite
a
bit
out
there
about
tracing.
You
know
we've
kind
of
been
around
the
world
a
few
hundred
times
on
that.
So
I
think
metrics
is
the
biggest
area
of
interest
overall.
D
Obviously,
docs
for
metrics
is
kind
of
the
thing
that
we're
most
interested
in,
but
I
think.
D
In
a
general
sense,
like
that's
the
part
of
hotel,
that
is
the
closest
to
like,
so
it's
where
things
overlap
right,
it's
like
it's
just
it's
the
big
thing,
that's
being
worked
on
and
finished,
and
the
big
thing
that
will
be
kind
of
publicized.
I
think,
and
so
it's
the
thing
that
needs
the
most
like
quote,
unquote
help
okay
other
than
like
the
usual.
You
know,
language
sigs
always
need
more
people,
especially
you
know,
under
under
loved
ones,
like
php.
E
A
Please
mention
the
help
wanted
issues.
I
I
just.
I
just
checked
the
the
call
for
paper
page.
Just
my
point
of
view
is
reading
the
the
call
for
paper
for
alifest
is
like
yeah.
I
don't
know
what
what
I
should
hand
in
here
I
mean.
Maybe
it
would
be
good
to
to
lead
with
some
good
examples.
What
would
you
expect
like
hey?
Have
you
built
a
cool
extension
leveraging
open
telemetry?
A
Have
you
created
because,
right
now
it
leads
with
three
things
you
shouldn't
be
doing,
and
it's
like:
okay,
okay,
that's
so
so
that
that
could
really
help,
because
I
would
have
a
few
people
in
mind.
I
I
would
send
to
this
page,
but
right
now
I
know
like
yeah,
but
I
work
for
a
company
and
the
thing
I
built,
I
mean:
isn't
it
a
kind
of
a
product?
So
isn't
that
a
problem-
and
I
would
say
like
yeah,
but
it's
open
source,
so
that's
not,
and
so
I
think
it
it
would
be.
A
D
Okay,
in
the
interest
of
time,
it's
we
get
started
late.
That's
why
I'm
sorry
paul,
but
I
do
want
us
to
move
on
to
the
rest
of
the
agenda
and
leave
some
time
at
the
end.
So
people
know,
can
you
make
sure
you
put
like
an
email
or
twitter
or
something
in
the
notes?
So
people
know
where
to
find
you
to
reach
out
for
feedback
cool,
getting
started.
Examples.
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A
I
I
think
I
I
like
the
idea
to
to
let's
say
start
small,
I
think
maybe
I
I
just
think
thinking
out
loud,
maybe
if
we,
if
we
do
at
least
two
languages
at
the
same
time,
at
least
we
can
look
like
hey,
is
that
working
in
both
languages,
because
what
I
would
find
personally
really
cool
is
like
that.
Someone
goes
to
the
open,
telemetry
websites
and
says,
like
hey,
I
have
12
services
and
I
want
to
instrument
them
some
java,
some
python,
some
nodejs.
A
What
should
I
do
with
that
and
if
they
know
like
okay,
this
is
what
I
do
for
java.
This
is
what
I
do
for
nodejs,
and
this
is
what
I
do
for
python,
and
all
of
them
are
let's
say
equally
easy.
I
think
that
that's
what
people
are
looking
for,
but
I
agree
with
you.
I
mean
we
have
to
start
with
something.
So,
let's
start
with
java
and
then
maybe
do
a
next
second
run
with
python
and
see
like
okay.
How
far
can
we
get
with
that?
So
great
yeah?
D
App
for
lack
of
a
better
terms
like
a
program
that
does
something
right.
B
So
that's
part
of
the
challenge
here,
yeah
so
for
the
first
example
for
the
first
language,
whatever
we
choose-
and
I
like
seven's
idea
of
doing
say,
two
is
well
in
writing
one
example.
B
D
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
this
is
what
we
did
so
what
what
happened
like
this
is
from
like
the
history
for
hotel
itself
as
part
of
like
combining
the
specs
we
we
picked,
I
think
java
and
not
python,
or
maybe
it
was
python.
We
picked
java
and
python
as
like
the
two,
oh
python,
I'm
sorry
java
and
go
as
the
two
like.
D
If
there's
something
you
know,
it's
like
here's,
the
spec
or
here's
like
the
high
level
thing,
and
then
there
has
to
be
a
java
and
a
go
implementation
of
it
right.
So
from
like
a
process
kind
of
standpoint,
I
think
if
we
can
say
because
I
don't
want
to-
I
think
I
don't
want
us
to
necessarily.
I
would
rather
us
spend
time
on
getting.
D
The
like
the
structure
and
the
feel
of
getting
started
right
like
and
and
actually
accomplishing,
whatever
objectives
we
have
so
you
know
and
then
once
we
have
that
high
level
stuff
figured
out,
then
we
have
to
combine
that
with
like
okay,
here's
what
we
like
in
java
and
here's,
what
it
looks
like
in
go
or
python
or
whatever
the
other
language
is
and
then
like.
That's
the
process
rather
than
doing
java
getting
started
and
trying
to
port
java
getting
started
to
python,
getting
started
to
go
getting
start
right.
A
So
so
you
say
like
hey:
let's
write
down
every
step
so
say
like
hey:
here's
your
sample,
app!
Here's
like
how
you
inject
auto
instrumentation,
here's
how
you
export
to
the
console!
Here's
how
you
connect
to
the
collector,
whatever
I'm
just
making
up
steps,
writing
that
down
and
then
seeing
like
okay
and
one
person
and
let's
say
one
person
takes
it
and
tries
it
out
for
java
and
another
person
tries
it
out
for
go
and
then
we
get
back
and
see
like
okay,
where,
where
are
the
levels
of
of
difference,
something
like
that.
D
A
D
Plain
language,
human,
readable
language
and
then
two
people
go
off
and
they
implement
that
in
a
lang
in
a
language
and
then
we
kind
of
see
what
works.
What
doesn't
work,
because
I
think
if
we
start
out
with
that
kind
of
mindset,
then
it
becomes
a
lot
easier
to
one
have
something:
that's
consistent
from
language
to
language
so
that
we
do
get
you
know
like
you
said.
D
F
I
think
that
makes
sense,
and
I
mean
it's
good-
to
sort
of
have
these
like
a
little
more
abstract
goals
and
structure,
because,
like
the
way,
the
way
you
get
started
in
java
is
very
different
before
they
get
started
with
go
and
like
there's
and
then
with
python.
It's
like
oh
boy
now
you
have
like
two
very
interesting
ways
you
get
started
as
far
as
automatic
instrumentation
is
concerned
and
like
which
framework
do
we
pick
as
like
the
example
are
and
like
that
kind
of
stuff?
F
And
I
I
think
it's
better
to
sort
of
yeah.
We
have
that
sort
of
abstract
goals,
and
then
it's
just
up
to
the
person
to
like
pick
like
this
is
that
we're
going
to
go
with
django
instead
of
flask
or
something
like.
D
Then
that's
something
that
someone
else
could
come
in
and
maybe
there
is
like
a
let's
say:
python:
it's
like
okay,
the
one
we
wrote
was
the
flask
one
and
someone
could
come
in
and
say
like
well,
I
want
this
specifically
for
django
and
then
they'll
know
like
okay.
Well
as
long
as
I'm
kind
of
doing,
you
know
if
I'm
following
these
steps
in
terms
of
how
I'm
writing
this
and
how
I'm
structuring
the
content,
then
it's
going
to
be
the
same.
Patrice.
B
B
B
A
I
I
mean,
though,
those
things
for
me
at
least
don't
do,
or
let's
say
at
the
opposite
end
I
mean
if
the
abstract
goals
should
also
be
very
high
level.
To
say,
like
I
said,
first
step
is
like
get
your
app.
Second
step
is
auto
instrument
it
and
that's
my
high
level
goal,
and
then
I
agree
with
you
and
then
we
of
course,
have
to
dive
into
the
language
and
understand
like
okay.
How
does
this
work
in
java?
How
does
this
work
in
python?
A
Is
this
even
something
we
can
do
in
the
in
the
in
the
non-dynamic
languages
like
go
or
what?
What
is
it?
What
we
need
to
do
there
so.
D
So,
to
maybe
like
split
the
baby,
a
little
yeah,
I'm
looking
at
this
issue.
You
know
this
thread.
D
I
think
the
as
like
an
action
item.
If
we
could,
if
people
could
go
comment
before
the
next
meeting
on
964,
which
is
the
issue
that
was
linked
in
zoom
with
some
ideas
you
know
and
then
next
time,
let's
actually
start
with
it,
it's
kind
of
a
sidebar,
I'm
actually
I've.
We
have
a
new
devrel
that
will
be
starting
next
month
at
lightstep,
who
her
first
kind
of
project
is
going
to
be
helping
out
with
this
specific
problem.
D
I
don't
want
that
to
block
any
of
this,
though,
but
she
so
you
might
be
familiar
adriana
elena
anyway,
she's
still
at
her
old
job,
though
so
maybe
don't
go
talk
about
it
too
much
on
the
internet.
D
B
B
Could
we
do
it
in
the
following
way,
so
severin
posted
on
january
21st
that
suggested
flow?
If
we
don't
hear
any
objections
between
now-
and
I
was
gonna
say
the
end
of
the
week,
whenever
then
we
could
move
forward
with
that
sort
of
a
flow
does?
How
does
that.
D
Yeah,
incidentally,
if
anyone's
gonna
be
at
sr
econ
next
week-
and
you
want
to
chat
about
any
of
this-
I
will
be
there
or,
if
you're,
on
the
west
coast
in
general
or
in
the
san
francisco
bay
area
in
general,
and
you
want
to
meet
up.
Let
me
know
I
am
coming
out
of
my
shell
and
I'm
doing
just
fine.
B
C
So,
okay,
the
next
topic,
the
path
of
under
neutral
content.
Yes,
so
new
relic
has
created
a
pretty
comprehensive
like
introductory
to
open
telemetry,
but
it's
it's
not
vendor
neutral
and
I
think
something
like
this
would
be
helpful
to
the
community
at
large
of
getting
started.
So
I
think
it
dovetails
nicely
into
the
getting
started
examples.
C
It's
like
some
of
the
conceptual
parts
of
like
what
is
telemetry
and
just
like
walking
people
down
the
path
to
eventual
adoption
and
eventual
hands-on
content
with
open
telemetry
specifically,
but
so
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
this
great
content
out
there
in
the
world,
and
I
wonder
if
there
is
some
type
of
like
essentially
path
to
be
vendorizing,
some
of
these
things
for
and
putting
them
out
into
the
community
as
a
great
example
how
to
get
started,
and
so
so
I
I
don't
know.
C
Yes,
I
have
a
link,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
access
it,
yet
we
haven't
quite
published
it.
Let
me
throw
it
over
into
the
zoom
chat
if
you
can
get
there
awesome,
but
I
feel
like
you
might
need
permissions.
C
You
can
see
it
excellent
okay,
so
the
first
part
of
that
is
roughly
vendor
neutral
and
the
second
part
is
totally
not
vendor
neutral.
It's
how
to
use
it
with.
B
C
Platform
specifically,
but
so
I
guess
my
question
is,
do
you
all
see
like?
Would
it
be
helpful
if
vendors
could.
D
C
Yeah
or
something
like
what?
What
what
do
you
all
need,
as
as
voice
I'm
here
with
my
new
rel
account
on
hey
community?
What
do
you
need
in
in
response
to
like
that,
educational
content
that
many
vendors
have
created.
D
I
think
the
you
know,
the
general
goal
is
still
the
same
general
goal
right,
which
is
to
make
open
telemetry
to
I
o
authoritative,
for
this
kind
of
content,
which
necessarily
means
a
consolidation
of
the
extant
vendor
specific
content
into
like
two
to
one
be
kind
of
stripped
of
its
vendor
specific
stuff
and
to
be
like
hosted
on
the
website
and
then
like
a
2a,
which
is
vendors,
take
the
stuff
that
wasn't
vendor
neutral
and
like
basically,
if
we
can
sort
of
get
a
taunting
of
everyone
saying
like
okay,
when
you
go
to
new,
relic
or
lightstep
or
datadog
or
honeycomb,
and
you
go
to
open
telemetry,
you
get
a
go
here,
go
to
this
page
and
then
come
back
for
the
vendor
specific
stuff
right.
C
I
I
think
that
would
help
just
from
a
consistency
perspective,
because
everybody
does
it
just
a
little
bit
different.
I
think
I'm
excited
as
the
end
user
working
group
spins
up
to
like
get
actual
tangential
feedback
on
topics
like
this
of
what
works
best
for
end
users.
That's
that's
what
I'm
imagining
would
work
best
from
what
I
know
now.
I.
D
From
like,
okay,
so
strategically
that's
the
goal.
Tactically
I
mean,
if
you
have
like
executive
or
whoever
needs
to
like
sign
off
on.
We
just
want
to
take
all
this
stuff
and
put
it
on
the
hotel
site
like.
I
would
actually
probably
be
okay
with
something
like
I
mean
patrice
on
this
bayou
like
what?
B
So
then
we
can
do
what
we
do
with
the
the
blog
posts,
which
is
allow
submissions
but
make
sure
that
they're
draft
so
that
they
don't
show
up
on
the
production
site,
but
they
do
show
up
in
previews.
So
that
would
allow
us
to
that
intermediate
access.
D
Yeah,
I
will
go
and
make
an
issue
to.
D
I
will
go,
make
an
issue
on
the
repo.
That's
like
you
know,
vendor
docs,
consolidation
or
something,
and
we
can
kind
of
discuss
it
async
in
there,
and
that
will
also
give
us
a
place
like
shower.
You
can
take
this
and
send
it
to
your
people.
I
can
reference
this
internally,
philip.
You
can
throw
this
at
whoever's
doing
that
over
there
and
maybe
the
answer
is
gonna
be
like
we
need
to
have
a
meeting
or
some
sort
of
like
special,
like.
D
Yeah,
like
maybe
a
tc
statement
or
a
gc
statement,
I
feel
like
we're.
F
Let's
see,
there's
a
light
step
up
trace
now,
potentially
some
new
relic
stuff,
there
may
be
some
honeycomb
stuff.
That's
four
vendor
flavors
of
similar.
F
Expecto,
I
think
expecto,
okay,
so
that's
five,
I'm
pretty
sure.
F
I'm
pretty
sure
that
each
group
has
like
one
thing
that
nobody
else
covers
and
it's
to
be
like
a
big
task
to
try
to
like
identify
all
of
those
and
be
like
hey.
How
can
how
can
we
surface
that
as
as
easily
as
possible
yeah.
B
D
D
When
all
this
was
getting
started
like
I
remember,
there
was
like
a
quite
a
bit
of
hey.
We
want,
I
feel,
like
everyone
kind
of
wanted,
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
land
grab
with
hotel
content
and
seo
and
get
all
their
stuff
out
there
and
be
like
look.
This
is
this
is
the
only
place
you
can
find
it,
and
what
happened
is
that
everyone
did
that
at
the
same
time.
So
now
there's
like
six
copies
of
everything
out
there.
D
All
right,
bye,
severn,
I
think,
we're
pretty
much
wrapped
anyway,
so
I'll
make
an
issue
that
we
can
discuss
this
in
async
and
people
use
this
as
a
pointer
and
we
will
go
from
there.
C
Yes,
no
thanks
for
the
conversation
I
just
there's
so
much
amazing
content
out
there,
like
I
love,
light
steps
documents,
but
if
you
don't
know
to
go
to
find
some
of
the
content
like
I
just
I
wish
I
wish
everybody
had
access
to
all
the
great
stuff
out
there.
I
think
it
would
help
the
project
from
an
awareness
and
usability
standpoint.
D
B
D
Like
one
or
two
thing,
you
know
the
one
or
two
things
are
a
little
different
in
each,
so
I
don't
envy
whoever
gets
that
job,
but
you
know
there'll
be
someone
other
than
me.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
for
attending
we'll
see
you
back
here
next
week
same
time,
same
channel
for
the
end
user,
special
working
group,
sig
stuff.
C
We
basically
the
end
user
working
group
has
grabbed
this
time
slot,
also
because
it's
like
half
cons,
half
end
user
stuff,
and
so
it's
slightly
different.
But
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
in
what
we're
trying
to
do
between
both
of
our
things
and
just
you
know:
improving
open
telemetries
awareness,
but
bringing
that
voice
to
the
end
user
into
the
project.
A
little
more
explicitly.