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C
B
Makes
sense
the
though
what
is
what
is?
Is
it
like
a
online
tgi
thursday.
C
Like
they
would
have
the
talks
and
stuff
streamed,
I
think
after
the
talks,
it's
obviously
not
streamed
or
anything.
So
then
it
doesn't
matter
but
yeah
and
I'm
talking
about
five
years
ago
now,
I'm
sure
it's
different
for
corona,
but
at
that
time
they
made
the
switch
from
tgift
to
tgi
thursday
for
the
main
office,
so
that
people
could
stream
the
talks.
C
C
B
Yeah
I
made
the
important
announcement
that
our
meetings
are
now
in
utc,
so
we
have
wednesday,
thursday,
friday
meetings.
Now,
where
am
I
microsoft
and
oh
yeah,
we
fixed
up
the
calendar,
but
we
should
fix
the
calendar
for
this
meeting
too.
A
B
B
B
A
C
C
C
B
We
had
a
good
good
crowd.
This
morning
we
had
two
two
first
time
folks
laurie,
joined
and
also
jonathan.
B
B
Matter,
yes,.
C
B
A
A
C
A
The
way
that
the
data
is
exposed
is
not
trivial,
and
it's
also
configuring.
It
is
super
non-trivial
like
the
way,
so
so
that
so
there's
the
core
library,
not
the
gradle
plugin,
but
the
core.
Whatever
it's
called
j
api
cmp
library
produces
natively
that
text
output,
which
is
what
I'm
putting
right
now,
which
is
actually
called
the
standard
output,
writer
or
report,
or
something
like
that.
A
It
produces
a
fairly
plain
html
report,
which
I,
which
is
actually
way
prettier
than
the
then
the
text
one
but
lordy,
looking
at
diffs
on
pr's
and
html
does
not
seem
like
something
I
want
to
sign
up
for,
though
we
could
consider
generating
those
like
for
the
for
the
like
the
historical
ones.
Once
we
cut
a
release
and
we
actually
just
published
it,
it
might
be
nice
to
do
the
html
ones.
A
For
that
and
think
about
that,
and
then
the
gradle
plug-in
exposes
this
whole
other
api
for
generating
what
they
call
a
rich
report.
But
it's
a
completely
different
api
than
the
actual
library,
jc,
ap
or
j
api.
Cmp
library
exposes
it's
completely
different.
It
exposes
the
data
in
a
much
harder
to
use
fashion,
and
also
with
that
report
you
have
to
configure
differently
which
rules
you
want
to
apply
and
it's
impossible
to
keep
it
from
breaking
the
build.
A
If
there
are
any
what
what
it
opinionatedly
considers.
Non-Backward
compatibility
compatible
changes
which
we
have
like
it,
for
example,
the
default
methods,
new
methods
on
interfaces
with
default
implementations
for
reasons
I
cannot
fathom
it
considers
as
a
breaking
a
binary
breaking
change,
which
it
is
not.
A
So
I
don't
know
why
the
author
has
decided
that,
but
so
basically
you
can't
it
will
always
fail
if
we
include
the
full
set
of
rules,
and
so
I
was
trying
to
customize
the
rules,
and
that
is
also
a
nightmare
api
to
try
and
then
you're
you're
gonna
send
some
peers
to
that.
Plugin.
C
A
A
Cloned
and
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
It
is
not
very
non-trivial
and
also
the
pro.
This
also
makes
me
a
little
worried
that
the
project
is
not
very
active
and
there's
a
there's,
some
there's
at
least
three
or
four
open
issues,
one
of
which
can
act
but
actually
fix
the
thrill
build
breakage
issue,
and
then
I
added
one
for
customization
and
there
hasn't
been
any
response
to
those
yeah.
So
I
think.
A
A
C
C
A
A
C
C
C
A
Easy
enough,
oh
the
other
thing
I
spent
an
inordinate
amount
of
time
wrestling
with
today
is
like
what
I
think
is
a
pretty
bad
gradle
bug
that
so
I'm
using
I'm
writing
kotlin,
I'm
in
the
kotlin
build
script.
I
have
no
idea
if
this
is
kotlin
specific
or
not,
and
because
the
way
this
report
gets
customized,
you
need
to
create
some
custom
classes,
and
I
was
just
I'm
creating
them
inside
as
nested
classes
inside
the
build
script,
because
it's
I'm
hacking
right.
It's
easy
to
just
have
subset
there.
A
And
if
I
change
the
name
of
the
class
gradle
will
not
look,
it
will
just
say
can't
deserialize.
This
configuration
in
the
bill
will
fail
like
there's
and
in
order
to
clear
it
up
clear
it.
I
have
to
delete
my
dot
gradle
and
it's
the
only
way
I
could
figure
out.
I
finally
found
there
was
this
serialization
cache
inside
the
gradle
in
the
project,
not
in
the
gradle
cache
itself.
A
B
A
Uses
the
serialization
ape
guys,
which
made
me
shake
my
head
quite
a
bit,
but
anyway
I
had
to
delete
my
dot
gradle
repeatedly
today,
because
I
kept
on
tweaking
that
class
and
it
just
things
didn't
work
like
it
could
no
longer.
If
I
changed
the
name
of
the
class,
I
couldn't
find
it
couldn't
find
it
and
it
just
would
blow
up.
A
Just
like
oh
yeah,
that
sounds
like
griddle
book.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
how
to
yeah.
Anyway
it
was.
It
was
kind
of
nightmarish.
I
was
I
started,
searching
for
the
bug,
but
then
got
distracted
and
ended
up
doing
something.
I
ended
up
working
with
jason
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
actually
just
work
around
it
anyway.
I
should
probably
log
it.
A
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
to
describe
it,
because
I'm
sure
it's
a
case
that
very
few
people
are
doing,
creating
like
creating
nested
kotlin
classes
inside
your
build
script
dependencies
anyway,
it
gets
a
little
crazy.
So
anyway,
I
kind
of
threw
up
my
hands
by
the
end
of
the
day
and
like
customizing,
this
thing,
via
with
the
code.
That's
currently,
existence
is
nearly
impossible.
So
probably
want
to
go
a
different
route.
A
C
A
B
A
C
B
B
The
differences,
so
the
the
common
part
is
that's
the
same
in
both
is
most
of
it's
the
same
in
both
extension
class
loader,
that
does
the
runtime
shading
the
agent
initializer.
Now,
instead
of
initializing
the
agent
class
loader
and
loading
everything
in
there,
it
initializes
the
creates
an
extension
class
loader
that
parents,
the
agent
class
loader
and
uses
the
I
mean
the
extension
class
loader
parents,
the
agent
class
loader
and
so.
B
The
differences
in
one
is
is
just
basically
how
he's
doing
the
runtime
shading.
So
in
one,
the
class
loader
overrides,
find
class
and
get
resources
stream
to
perform
the
shading
and.
A
B
Other
uses
a
custom
url
handler
to
perform
the
shading,
so
he
said
there
were
some
just
some
pluses
and
minuses
about
both
approaches.
B
So
looking
for
feedback
on
that
which
way
to
go
and
laurie
had
proposed
an
option
three
of
a
class
file
transformer
that
could
do
the
shading.
Also
that
nikita
had
been
thinking
about
that
this
morning
and
was
realizing
that.
B
Work
because
bite
buddy
needs
to
load,
look
at
classes
as
resources,
but
then
at
the
same
time,
I'm
just
thinking
now
the
bite
buddy.
We
don't
really
ins
use
bite,
buddy
to
inspect
things.
We
don't
instrument
things
in
the
agent
class
loader
anyway.
B
B
Maybe
it's
still
an
option.
It
is
an
easy
way
to
get.
B
At
the
byte
array
of
things
that
are
loaded.
C
B
Motivated
to
make
make
things
extension
stuff
stable,
he
was
also
thinking
about
using
this
extension.
C
B
Vendor
distros-
and
I
mentioned
that
I
probably
wouldn't
want
to
use
that
just
because
of
the
runtime
shading
cost.
B
B
And
let's
see
oh
yeah
and
one
of
them
has
this
was
cool.
I
thought
he
built
out.
B
B
B
The
the
thing
that
he
was
explaining
to
us
on
wednesday
still
was
confusing.
Taking
me
a
while
the
it
was
the
extension
java
agent,
extension
tooling
class
that
had
all
of
these
things,
that
used
to
be
in
the
instrumentation
module,
and
I
wasn't
understanding
still
why
the
we
needed,
like
a
public,
because
these
are
not
things
that
instrumentations
call
directly.
C
B
B
Directly
and
then
we
talked
jonathan.
C
B
Talked
with
jonathan
about
the
roadmap
to
get
the
instrumentation
api,
stable
and
so
mentioned,
the
just
the
instrumenter
stuff
and
oh
and
matthias
gave
an
overview
of
the
the
work
he
had
done
for
spring
cloud,
sleuth
to
port
that
to
the
new
instrumenters,
and
so
he
seemed
okay
with
just
with
understanding.
B
You
know
sort
of
the
bigger
picture
of
what
all
the
work
that's
going
into
this
and
we
did
get.
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
on
the
slack
channel.
We
got
a
related
question
today
well
and
he
had
re
asked
about
like
publishing
it
somewhere.
B
Is
I
created
just
an
issue
like
a
tracking
issue
for
it
so
that
you
know
people
who
want
to
follow?
He
can
point
people
to
this.
B
People
can
follow
this
and
we
can
post
sort
of
updates
from
time
to
time
here.
I'm
I'm
very
reluctant
to
like
when
people
want
timelines.
C
B
You
and
you
and
nikita
are
welcome
to
over
to
override
me,
but
if,
if
I'm,
though,
if
I'm
doing
the
speaking,
I'm
just
not
gonna
give
any
timeline,
you
know,
I
will
stress
that
we're
working
on
it
we're
lots
of
people
very
interested
in
this
pm.
C
A
B
So
we
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
because
he
was
asking
if
we
had
to
wait
for
metrics
to
be
stable.
B
So
I
did
mention
that
we
had
been
discussing
that
and
our
current
thought
is
that
we
would
not
wait
for
metrics
to
be
stable
and
that
we
would
use
the
unstable
annotation
like
we
had
discussed
on.
If
we
do
need
to
expose
the
metrics
api
in
our
instrumentation
api
and
that
we
will
have
a
dependency,
a
runtime
dependency
on
the
metrics
api.
B
So
yeah
that
was
that
there's
so
yeah.
So
that's
a
oh!
I
did
go
through
and
I
reviewed
the
too
oh
did
you.
I
see
some
somebody
touched
this
one
since
I
was
here
last.
B
You
did
okay
cool
yeah.
I
was
going
to
ask
you
to
if
you
have
any
time
to
prioritize
those
two
from
matej
instrumentor
ones.
I
reviewed
I
approved
both
of
them
with
a
couple
comments,
but.
B
And
oh
man
a
lot
of
big
pr's
this
one.
I
was
trying
to
work
through
this
one,
this
one's
a
another,
tricky
servlet
naming
thing
from
laurie.
B
C
A
Hopefully,
you
got
got
beer
before
it
was
too.
C
Late,
we
can
at
least
buy
beer
just
not
at
restaurants
and
bars
and
stuff.
I
celebrated
the
last
day
of
drinking
at
a
bar
by
going
to
a
bar
on
when,
on
tuesday,
but
drinking
at
home
is
still
not
a
problem.
C
Yeah
and
now
and
like
all
the
movies
come
out
in
golden
reacus
in
japan,
not
on
this,
like
also
in
summer,
but
in
the
us.
It's
like
everything
is
in
june
here.
A
lot
of
them
come
out
and
for
golden
week
also,
so
anything
that
came
out
sort
of
in
march
or
april
tends
to
get
delayed
to
golden
week
in
japan,
so
you're
going
to
get
the
godzilla
versus
kong
and
all
this
stuff.
But
the
theaters
are
closed.
A
B
C
B
Yeah,
it's
totally
fine
to
not
to
opt
out
of
to
say
I
want
no
part
of
that.
B
A
C
B
B
C
A
I
mean
I
just
said:
I
won't
stand
in
the
way
and
you've
approved
it,
and
so
I
can't
stop
you
from
merging
it.
Let's
just
put
it
that
way,.
C
C
B
A
B
There
you
can
deputize
me
as
a
maintainer
for
five
minutes
here,
while
monrock
merges.
C
Yeah
there's
one
last
comment,
so
once
that's
addressed
I'll,
probably
merge
it.
What
was
what's
left
is
the
adsense.
I
don't
think
that
was
added.
Yet
the
one
you
commented,
the
sense,
annotation
or
sent
stock
string
or
whatever
oh.
A
A
It's
going
to
be
really
really
useful,
make
it
as
long
as
we
can
get
everyone
on
board
with
remembering
to
run
the
right
tasks.
A
The
default
route
for
the
zip
can
solve
default.
Endpoint
is
also,
I
don't
know
whether
we
intended
that
to
be
public.
C
A
A
C
A
C
A
A
C
A
C
A
Android
testing
environments-
all
I'm
doing
right
now
is
I
just
have
android
studio
and
a
couple
of
the
default
installations
that
I've
been
playing
around
with.
I
haven't
done
using
the
emulators,
not
the
not
devices.
I've
used
my
device,
my
own
pixel
3,
which
is
of
course
up
to
date.
So
it's
like
api
30,
like
it's
latest
greatest
everything
I
haven't
messed
around
with
with
older
devices
at
all.
Yes,
the
simulator,
so.
C
Yeah
sdk,
so
I
think
that's
what
triggers
the
d
sugaring.
So
it's
not
going
to
use
the
open
jdk
stuff,
but
even
then,
like
I
look
at
the
d
sugar
implementation,
it
seems
fine
to
me
so
I
mean
that's
as
far
as
I
can
go,
I
think
yeah.
Maybe
it
would
be
interesting
to
step
debug
through
that
code
at
some
point,
if
it's
even
possible
but
yeah,
so
I
couldn't
find
any
reason
for
it
to
be
broken
still,
which
is
fine.
I
mean
it's
obviously
broken
and
the
code
to
fix.
A
C
A
Oh,
that
was
just
like
stuff
in
our
sdk
that
uses
java
classes
and
so
that
and
the
compiler
was
failing.
No,
it
would
not
go,
it
would
fail
at
runtime
yeah.
A
A
There
there
may
be
like
there's
probably-
and
I
don't
really
know
android
builds
at
all.
There
may
be
a
way
to
make
android
like
as
a
part
of
your
that's
the
thing
that
gets
rid
of
all
the
stuff.
You
don't
care
about.
Part
of
that
process
might
discover
yeah
program.
A
Yeah
proguard
might
fail.
I
don't
know
anyway,
it
was
just
another
thing
that
I
discovered
yeah.
While
I
was
messing
around
with
stuff.
A
C
A
B
Yeah,
can
you
install
certs.
A
Probably
probably,
but
on
my
test
apps,
I
just
stick
the
little
thing
in
the
like
the
security
exception
into
my
manifest,
and
then
I
don't
worry.
A
Because
if
I
test
apps,
I
can
do
that
yeah,
but
even
that
is
like
you
have
to
have
an
xml
file
that
describes
what
security
exception
and
you
have
to
point
at
that.
You
have
to
create
an
xml
resource
in
android,
and
then
you
have
to
point
it
that
in
your
in
your
manifest
or
something
anyway,
it's
a
like
three-step
process
that
every
time
I
did
it,
I
had
to
go
and
re-look
it
up.
It's
obvious,
which
is
probably
a
good
thing
like
it
shouldn't,
be
easy
right.
It
should
make
it
difficult
to
allow.
C
A
I
mean
you
have
to
have
stuff
in
your
manifest
if
you
even
want
to
access
the
network
like
in
order
to
access
the
networking
app
at
all,
you
have
to
declare
that
upfront
in
your
application
manifest
yeah,
which
is
good.
I'm
glad
I
mean
it's
good
for
users,
it's
good
for
me
as
a
user,
but
as
an
android.
B
A
Anyway,
I
was
able
to
do
things
like
install
a
uncaught
exception
handler
and
was
able
to
get
a
span
generated
by
that
out
of
the
vm
before
it
shut
down
by
using
force
the
force
flush
on
the
sdk,
and
it
did
work.
I
didn't
know
whether
it
would
allow
me
to
get
away
with
it,
but
it
did
actually
work.
A
A
A
They
have
their
android
vitals
thing,
which
you
can
go
and
if
you're
on
the
play,
store
and
see
how
your
app
is
behaving,
but
they
can
actually
detect
crashes
like
in
the
very
early
startup
of
the
app
and
report
it,
which
there's
no
way,
there's
no,
like
user
apis
to
get
access
to
even
that
code
at
all,
so
they
have
secret
stuff.
They
can
do.
A
Anyway,
that's
that
I
should
try
building
an
android
api
level
30
and
see
if
it
fixes
the
or
see
if
it
can
be
as
a
real,
interesting
note,
yeah
just
for
knowledge.
A
Yeah
well
now
that
we've
released
1.0
like
like,
I
can
take
it
easy,
a
little
bit
and
work
on
other
stuff
right
I
can
work
on.
I
can
work
on.
I
can
spend
time
learning
things
which
you
know.
Don't
often
do
so.
It's
fun
nice,
at
least
until
the
end
of
the
quarter,
and
then,
who
knows
what's
going
to
happen
I'll,
probably
get
roped
into
something
that
splunk.
B
Reviewing
some
of
the
prs
that
all
your
fellow
splunkers.
C
Open
telemetry,
splunk
instrumentation,
it's
splunk
elementary,
that's
what
I
mean:
let's
open,
splunk
yeah.
Let's
give
I
think
I
mentioned
I
was
given
going
to
give
a
presentation
called
working
with
competitors,
and
I
gave
it
and
one
of
my
slides
it
was
talk
like
I
was
trying
to
describe
how
you
start
this
sort
of
project.
So
I
went
to
the
government
like
this
establishment
of
the
government
committee
and
it
started
with
like
one
person
from
google
one
person
from
lightstep
et
cetera,
et
cetera
and
then
yeah
my
government's
committee
right,
no
tech.
C
C
B
Cool
thanks
for
joining
during
during
your
holidays,.