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OpenTelemetry PHP SIG Meeting

A

Hey Brad.

B

Good morning to you Bob, how are you I'm.

A

Doing well and yourself.

B

Very well nearly recovered for my vacation. Really, it's definitely some work.

A

I was going to say, are you? uh Are you in that state where you need a vacation from your vacation.

B

Yes, I: do hello preacher make hi guys.

A

What did you do with your time off, Brett.

B

uh Such is my daughter, camping into some remote Wilderness that uh we didn't have any mobile phone reception or anything. We didn't see anybody for a week, canoeing, camping in the snow. It's pretty.

A

Fun no.

B

Yes, yes,.

A

It's housing.

B

Some limited parts of my country.

A

I learned something new today: I did not know that I thought it was a snowless place. No.

B

We do have to go to great efforts to see snow. Usually you know drive four hours to the top of a mountain, um so it's not convenient. It's very, very rare. Once I saw snow at my house when I was a kid and that's the only time it's ever happened in my lifetime.

A

We get to know like in uh in Atlanta we get to like every other year or so that's kind.

C

Of.

A

Interesting, mostly no snow here, I grew up in a place that was snow for four months out of the year. Wow.

C

That was.

A

That's probably what a novelty for you then I do not miss snow whatsoever, but but uh I can tell you that it was good. I think it was good for my parents because they just my parents just would have my brother and I shovel. The driveway and I think that wore us out pretty good, so I can see as a parent. How that would be rewarding I had to leave. They had a snow blower, but they saw me it does Shovel up by hand, that's character.

B

uh Yep, it does yes and encourages you to move to warmer climates. Apparently, that's.

C

Right.

A

All right we'll give it another member so and see. Who else shows.

C

I'll.

A

Just.

C

Be the three of us right now.

B

Okay, we've made is a good meeting. It was just daylight savings here, so it's it's an hour later for me than usual.

A

Oh, but uh so it's 11 p.m.

B

It's 11 p.m. Here, but that's! Okay, that's reasonable enough! uh Normally it only takes a few weeks and then uh Eastern Time what's going to Daylight savings and that either fixes it for me or makes it worse. I can't remember.

A

We yeah I think daylight. Savings is in what a month.

C

Okay, yep.

A

It is uh November 6th, so yeah almost exactly a month from now, but a lot of uh there's. There has been talk in the U.S Senate to uh make the Savings Time permanent.

C

So that would be interesting. Oh okay! Yes,.

A

Yes, definitely shifting time zones as programmers.

B

Yeah I know I deal with this. Often enough that oh yeah, you would hope that I would know how it works, but I don't right.

A

It's all it's all magic to all of us. Sometimes it.

B

Is it's like you know, off by one ear is and off by one hour errors in at times, yeah.

A

Those are the two most difficult things in computer programming: right, naming things, cash and validation and off by one error.

B

And off by one yes,.

C

All right all right.

B

Yep.

A

We can get discussing. uh Let's see what open pull requests we have. Oh I can show my screen. Sorry.

C

Thank you.

C

The screen.

C

All right so open pull, requests.

A

We have one from you, Brett about hotel, SDK, disabled and talk to you that.

B

Yes, do what I've still put it I'll put it just dropped, because okay, so someone's going to have issues that the way I've done it, but um uh it is ready for an initial review.

A

um I'll open this up, take a look at it later today. Okay, uh let's see Tobias has three available uh transformative content type from send to transport property. As you can say, I guess this is you that reviewed it? Maybe because it wasn't me yes,.

A

You're happy with us, you think we can merge this time.

B

I did approve it yeah. There were a couple Tobias that left a couple of questions, I'm, not sure if they have questions for himself or if he wanted answers to them. I don't have good answers for them.

A

I I see a couple of these and I'm I will go and make some comments on this one too. Okay,.

C

All right back to the pull requests.

A

uh This one for a self-diagnostic metrics to batch span, processor and alternative.

C

Industry.

A

It's a self-diagnostic, not sure it's a batch band processor. It looks like you approved this one two weeks ago and as a emergency British conflict.

B

I think that's why I didn't merge it? Yes, yes,.

A

All right, alternative information, instrumentation abstraction looks like you're, also having a conversation with him about this one. But it's.

C

um Same thing, yeah, we'll follow up with.

A

Him.

C

And.

A

Then the contribute reports, if there's anything, exciting nothing new or exciting,.

C

There.

A

Nothing I did see. We did have one new open Bug this one about otlphgp exporter from Eric neverson and it looks like oh I, see.

C

All right so.

B

uh I I think he's happy, I. Think I think he knows. What's what what to do now so.

C

As a okay, if we close this issue.

A

All right, so last but not least, uh it's Beta release. Time and uh Tobias had sent me a DM that I copied and pasted here, and he was talking about changing our versioning for beta.

A

um So packages are versioned independently and we don't want to bump our API version for unrelated SDK changes. So I think that's I think that's the only thing that we have left to do before we perform a Beta release, but.

B

uh Yeah well I'd like to knock off devices. A couple of um PR's yeah I've got one medium-sized refactor on the go which I'll work, devices help with uh it's just with um uh follow-up to some of the work he's been doing with um uh transports for um photographing, grpc.

C

S.

C

Transport.

A

Would you say with otlp and grpc.

B

Yeah I think you could say with transports, then okay that'll be sufficient.

C

um

B

Okay, so let me just put my name on it or I can do that.

C

All right, you're gonna assign this to you.

A

uh Mcbride, let's I, don't have your email address.

C

uh Yeah, that should be.

A

Right um and then after that, I think we're ready for our Beta release. Okay,.

B

uh Does anyone have a solution or ideas for how we.

A

Urgent packages independently.

D

I.

A

Don't I don't I was actually gonna follow up with Tobias about that, because I'm not exactly sure how he individuals that happening.

B

um It's I'm gonna make an issue about that. Yeah I, don't think it's gonna.

C

Be easy anyway, no.

A

I, don't think so either.

C

uh I'm, pretty sure first are for better. Science is labeled required.

C

In.

C

Or changes.

C

Foreign.

C

Got that okay.

A

I think that's everything that we I had to discuss today.

D

uh There is one thing that I wanted shortly to discuss, but I haven't added it to the agenda. Okay,.

A

Sure sure so.

D

uh Regarding this Auto instrumentation um development, so I couldn't find uh time for that in past weeks, but it seems that everything's, changed and I will spent uh I think about 50 percent of my time now working on that, and so my idea I would like to discuss the further steps that we can do in this context. So my day, my idea is to take uh some larger application or applications and try to prepare hooks for for that, and also maybe implementing gaps and Bug fixing in this um extensions, the extension that we have.

D

So the question is: what do you think about such kind of process, or maybe you have better ideas or other ideas.

B

I, don't have a better idea, but I think that's a that's a really good way to to find all the bugs is to do something really complicated. You know fix that. Do the hardest thing and, and hopefully you'll sort of find all of the um the issues as you go.

B

um If you're doing that.

A

I am too I do have a good thought. There's the open, Telemetry, the open, Telemetry demo. That might be a really a good place for you to start too, with auto instrumentation, or at least a good repo for you to think about. Okay, so I've had it really quick.

B

The PHP Services down here is very, very simple, though it.

A

Is but I was just thinking like if that I think that would be a success criteria for something for auto instrumentation right.

D

Right yeah.

C

Is that that happens.

A

Yeah, this would be a great starting point.

D

Okay,.

C

All.

B

Right, okay, you're also going to run into the you know the obvious things like: how do we, how do I set it up, and you know those are some of the things fundamental things that we're missing or we just haven't thought about. Yet is how do we?

B

How do we turn on auto instrumentation with as little code as possible and so that it captures the entire? um You know application life cycle as well.

D

Yeah, okay,.

C

All right.

A

Anything else on others, others, Minds.

A

If not, then I'll get to I'll get to looking at those uh PRS now Brett thanks for putting those up.

C

All right thank.

A

You we'll catch you all next week same time,.

B

Easy all right, thanks Bob, thank you. Mike thank.

D

You bye, bye.