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B
Yeah
I
know
I,
don't
have
to
worry
about
paying
bills.
B
So
yeah
I
was
going
through
the
notes
you
know
there
is
the
only
thing,
I
think
is
what
price
added
right.
There's
things
that
we
talked
about,
the
metrics.
A
Yeah
I
don't
know.
A
A
B
Okay,
so
let's
see.
A
Yeah
last
the
week,
I
couldn't
make
it
to
the
meeting
I
think
no
one
did
joined.
There
were
no
notes
about
that,
the
previous
one
and
it
was
price
nothing
in
yeah.
We
were
talking
just
about
yeah
previous
issues
and
things
like
that,
but
not
not
much.
Yeah
he's
yeah
he's
a
PR
for
metrics
that
was
already
in
Max.
A
So
the
the
idea
there
is
that
you
can
collect
your,
for
example,
the
Apple.
There
are
some
mobile
metrics
that
sends
you
about
your
app,
how
it
has
work
and
the
behavior
of
it,
but
it
provides
you
once
a
day,
for
example.
So
you
cannot
get
that
real
time,
so
your
metrics
cannot
be
calculated
while
they
are
arriving.
So
you
just
pre-populate
the
metric
with
the
values
that
it
provides.
You
and
you
can
use
that
to
compare
with
other
metrics
that
you
can
read
daily
and
things
like.
B
That
so
so,
when
this
arrives
once
a
day,
when
do
you
pick
it
up.
A
Yeah
yeah,
it's
like
apple,
provides
you
with
that
information,
but
it
does
it
in
a
private
way.
So
you
don't
receive
that
when
things
happen,
but
it
it's
like
it
creates
it
collects
all
of
them
and
provides
you
just
values
at
the
for
each
day.
B
So
now
these
values
are
they
like
for
different
times
for
the
day
or
yes,
that's
right,
oh
so
it's.
A
Not
an
activity
but
not
live,
but
but
later
so
that's.
A
Yeah,
okay,
okay!
So
now
you
can
guess
that
and
compare
with
other
real-time
metrics
that
you
get
and
you
know
and
also
yeah,
because
it
was
taught
for
your
metrics
to
arrive
real
time.
So
you
can
calculate
all
the
values
and
the
stuff
there,
but
that
couldn't
happen
with
this.
So.
B
So
so
then
you
have
to
generate
your
own
metrics
and
then
you
can
compare
it
with.
A
Yeah,
that's
right:
you
can
engage
that
as
if
they
were
open,
Telemetry
is
generated,
and
that
was
the
the
point
and.
A
B
B
A
I
mean
you,
you
create
a
a
metrics
like
if
they
were
generated
in
a
pen
Telemetry
way,
so
you
you
create
a
all
the
values
of
as
normal,
so
you
can
export
them
in
the
way
you
prefer
yeah
without
DLP
or
with
Prometheus
or
whatever
you
want.
Oh
yeah.
That
was
the
point
of
that
development.
A
For
the
rest,
I,
don't
know
not
much
some.
You
know.
Some
time
ago,
people
from
App
Dynamics
contacted
yeah
I.
A
Yeah
they
they
I've
seen.
They
made
a
question
in
the
in
the
channel
about
some
time
ago
about
how
to
instrument
Network
request
and
and
modify
the
URL,
so
they
could
hide
some
information
there,
and
that
was
the
only
the
last
time
they
they
contacted
again.
So
I
don't
know
what
they
are
probably
doing
it.
Well,
oh
yeah,
you
added
yourself
here
you
were
going
to
so
yeah
I'm,
not
not
much,
some
PRS
for
maintenance
and
yeah
I.
Don't
think
there
has
been
much
much
more
other.
B
Have
to
have
the
same
yeah
so
so
I
think
the
main
task
is
to
you
know,
update
the.
B
If
there
is
change
in
the
spec
I
think
we
need
to
automate
that
part
right.
There
is
nothing
to
no
way.
A
Yeah,
the
latest
releases
have
been
mainly
maintenance-
some
yeah
some
improvements
to
your
instrumentation,
so
you
can
inject
code
in
parallel,
so
it's
faster
in
multi-platform.
A
A
Yeah
this
was
the
xcode
14
that
it
was
in
August,
so
you
can
use
6
code
14
with
Swiss
507..
There
were
some
construction
that
were
not
liked
by
the
new
computer
pilot
so
but
for
the
rest,
just
yeah
the
smallest
condition
that
you
will
probably
never
notice
if
it
was
not
because
of
that
stress,
sanitizer
and
things
like
that,
yeah
not
much
I
still
to
go
with
his
half.
We.
A
We
should
update
our
metrics
to
the
new
API
that
that
was
something
the
Verizon
started
time
ago,
but
I
think
it's
some
of
what
abandoned
when
he
went
on
the
parental
leave
and
also
the
supporting
logs
is
the
other
thing
that
we
which
we
provide,
because
they
are,
the
other
client
are
interested
there.
So
I,
don't
know
and
I,
don't
know.
If
you
know
about
your
new
company
usage
of
the
open,
Telemetry
Suite
I
know
they
are
using
it
for.
B
B
But
I
mean
I,
you
know,
I
would
like
to
you
know
the.
What
were
the
metric
changes
right?
I
can
I
can
take
up
that
one
so
I
can
you
know
at
least
have
that
as
one
of
the
tasks
to
look
into
you
know,
yeah.
A
A
Yeah
I
don't
know,
I
I
think
that
they
have
the
Tracer
open
source
with
their
changes.
A
But
yeah
not
much
more
I
am
trying
to
get
time
from
my
company
to
implement
logs,
but
it's
taking
long.
We
have
to
release
something
for
next
October
in
my
team,
whose
Purity
co,
who
will
have
our
conference
now
in
October
and
I,
am
working
on
one
of
the
features
that
will
be
released
there.
So
I
am
very
compressed
with
the
time
and
after
that,
I
hope
to
yeah.
I
already
talked
with
him
and
I
hear
about
spending
some
time
in
implementing
logs,
but
I
still
need
my
the
approval.
A
I
hope
to
have
that
for
end
of
October,
okay,
I
hope
to
yeah.
For
now,
I
am
just
trying
to
follow
the
issues
that
appear
yeah.
This
one
is
I
have
been
trying
to
solve
this
one:
the
open
Telemetry
exit
framework.
This
is
built
in
a
binary
from
the
framework,
but
yeah
I
am
doing
this
for
my
library,
but
I
cannot
I
was
not
able
to
do
it
with
this
because
of
a
dependency
that
has
some
low
level
link.
Is
here
so
I?
A
Couldn't
I
have
been
with
this
issue
like
one
hour
or
more
today
and
I
couldn't
find
a
solution
for
the
rest,
I
I,
yeah
I
have
not
had
much
time
to,
but
yeah
things
are
not
very
premium
yeah
and
approving
pull
request
and
yeah.
That
have
been
the
time.
Yeah.
A
B
A
Yeah,
this
is
getting
better
all
this.
For
me,.
A
B
A
A
A
You're
out
here
is
like
getting
cut
every
second,
so
you
try
to
try
to
beat
just
for
one
second
be
selling
for
two,
and
but
you
have
to
synchronize.
I
cannot
I
will
lose
everything.
B
B
Yeah,
yeah,
okay.
So
what
what
we
are
talking
about
is
changes
in
the
metrics
right
yeah.
A
Our
apis
had
all
the
API
as
you
know,
but
it's
been
used
and
there
were.
There
was
a
branch
from
Bryce
who
tried
to
move
on
the
new
API.
A
A
B
Okay,
no
because
I'm
I'm,
trying
to
see
if
I
can
find
something
that
I
can
start
working
on
for
oh
yeah,
yeah,.
A
Okay,
I,
don't
know
the
metrics
one
was
like
I
mean
it's,
probably
not
very
productive
in
a
way
that
it
should
I
mean
it's
quite
complex
code,
okay
and
it
should
keep
compatibility
with
existing
things.
So
it's
it's
not
an
easy
task.
I
think
that
for
rice
it
was
it
was
difficult.
I
also
tried
to
take
a
look,
and
it
was
very
complex
course
to
write.
So
maybe
I
think
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
something.
A
You
might
start
with
logs
if
you
want,
maybe
that
okay,
that
could
be
easier,
but
it's
I
mean
it's
a
big
task,
also
because
yeah,
the
API
is
not
very
big
about
it's,
not
so
simple,
either
yeah
I,
don't
know
where
you
could
get
some
inspiration.
For
example,.
B
Yeah
I
I
had
seen
the
way
the
JavaScript
folks
are
done.
You
know
they
seem
to
have
done
the
logs
they've,
essentially
I
added
the
this
bands
as
log
events
yeah.
A
Yeah
I,
don't
know
how
how
much
time
you
have
for
that.
Matrix
is
probably
heavy
task,
because
there
are
many,
many
kind
of
metrics
many
kind
of
measures
that
you
have
to
take
in
account.
That's
a
big
topic
is
also
a
big
topic,
but
but
smaller,
and
that
implementation
is
probably
cleaner
in
all
the
tracers.
Whenever
you,
whatever
you
want
to
get
inspired,
probably
the
Java
one
is
quite
simple
and
it
could
have
some
similarities
with
the
rest
of
our
API.
A
So
that
could
be
a
good
inspiration
to
start
on
it.
I
have
been
just
checking
today.
If
I
tell
you
the
truth,
I
have
been
checking
it
this
morning
in
my
morning.
What
what
were
the
last
version
and
checking
the
their
log
implementation
on
how
many
classes
they
had
I
think
it
had
for
source
code
like
10
or
12
files,
so
not
not
very
big
but
also
another
for
for
another
10
or
12
for
for
tests,
and
some
of
them
look
a
small
so
that
could
be
achievable
yeah.
B
A
B
A
So
here
they
have
the
their
implementation.
You
know
that
it
is
so
yeah
and
these
are
their
the
size
of
their
project.
I
mean
it
is.
It
has.
A
A
good
bunch
of
files-
some
of
them
are
not
very
big.
Some
of
them
are
just
interfaces
that
that
will
be
protocols
for
us
and
things
like
that
and
our
naming
is
more
or
less
similar
to
this
to
the
ones
they
use
in
their
Java,
but
I.
Don't
know
why
they
have
this.
Only
in
the
SDK
part,
they
don't
have
this
in
the
API
in
the
APA
died
no,
and
that
was
something
that
they
thought
why
I
was
thinking
why
it's
not
in
the
APA.
A
Maybe
there
is
no
I
didn't
check
this
pick.
I
was
just
checking
the
the
this
yeah
I
mean
they
are
not
very
long
because
they
have
lots
of
comments
in
their
code.
They
are
basically
methods
and
classes.
Some
of
them
are
are
small.
Some
of
them
are
a
bit
bigger,
but
I
mean
it's
not
that
really
big
I
mean
it's
a
big
task,
but
it's
not
as
big
as
probably
metrics
I.
Think
it's
more
difficult,
but
if
you
go
to
API,
they
don't
have
anything
about.
Oh
there
is
some
laws.
A
A
A
A
and
downloaded
the
code
here,
and
this
code
didn't
include
nothing
in
the
SDK
about
the
API.
A
A
A
The
the
apis
would
be
this
with
the
empty
implementation
there
yeah
no
implementation
will
have
some
knob
implementations
on
support,
other
things
and
it'll
yeah.
B
A
Okay,
yeah,
if
you
want
a
big
task,
but
not
extremely
difficult,
I
think
this
is
better
than
rewriting
metrics
Matrix
yeah
yeah.
Okay,
if
you
want
something
simpler,
we
can
find
things
simpler.
Also,
if
you
prefer
that's
up
to
you,
yeah.
A
Yeah
I
mean
this
is
something
to
be
proud
of
if
you
enjoy.
So
it's
a
big
topic
that
you
that
I
mean
yeah,
it
will
be
nice
to
have
and
it
will
be
yeah
I
mean
it's
big
enough
to
be
proud
of
this
part.
If
you
finally
work
on
it,
oh.
B
Yeah,
let
me
get
all
my
things
set
up
and
and
then
I
will
get
back
into
the
yeah
okay.
A
Great
so
yeah,
you
can
tell
me
through
luck,
also
or
yeah,
that
will
give
you
prefer.
Okay,
okay,
all
right
sounds
good
request.
You
were
great
to
see
you
again,
yeah
and
congrats
again
for
for
your
new
job
and
I
hope
you
enjoy
it
and
yeah
and
also
yeah
enjoy
developing
something
if
they
give
you
time
for
that,
that
that's
really
great
yep.