Open Telemetry Uncategorized, 21 Sep 2022

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OpenTelemetry PHP SIG Meeting

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Right good morning, good afternoon, good evening,.

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For me, we would be will be good afternoon.

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Where are you located.

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I am located in Poland.

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You're over very nice I am a Polish ancestry.

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Oh good to know yeah and you are located in USA, right or yeah.

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I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, okay,.

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Give everybody a couple more minutes.

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So what time do you have now.

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It's uh eight o'clock in the morning for me.

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Yep yeah I think you're sick. Are you six hours out of me? Is it two p.m or 14 yeah.

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It's it's 2, 2 p.m, exactly so six hours the difference.

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So I think that for you, and also other probably guys from USA it's it's pretty early.

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Luckily I'm an early morning person, but yes, it is early. Okay, I have a young child, so I'm always up early anyway.

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It's a bias, hello, hi, foreign.

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So my name short version of first name, ah you ask it for the last name right, I,.

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I was that was the one that I was close. I felt like I, was closer to pronouncing correctly.

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Delevski is okay for the last name, and the first name is shemek, probably it's very hard for for a English speaking people.

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Yes- and this is a short version- because the um a larger version is- which is very strange- probably.

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That's okay, I I have a I, feel you with the last name being difficult.

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All right, I think this is everybody we're going to expect today. I know Brett is on vacation today. So I'll share my screen and we can get talking through this.

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To open PR's videos.

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I think um self-dynator diagnostic metrics to batch spam process search device. I looked at this one. This morning, too I saw that redhead approved it already. There's just one merge like a small, merge, conflict and I think will be okay. I can merge this after we fix that yeah.

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I realized that metrics are a bit more potent for PHP 7.4.

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um The test fails on 7.4, so.

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If we go into PW short at a big notice, that Matrix uh only supported really supported for 8.0 and up.

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Okay, that's that's fine, for me, at least for now.

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And then you had that alternative instrumentation abstraction too.

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Oh I think you were talking about this PR just now, not the other one.

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No I was talking about the other one. Oh.

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Okay, sorry, it doesn't notice something about a 10.4 here too.

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Yeah because um this currently uses a recap tool: Cash 2000 meters and yeah- let's beat my best 8.0 and up.

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Understood well, I know we're trying to do our best to support 7.4, but there may be picking some things. We just can't support with it attention.

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Whatever your refractors fan context looks like it's got some uh some motion cases I've updated it. um You can check.

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All right, so this looks like it's um kashan had asked for changes and I think that you've made them so I guess we can.

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I will I think I can re-request changes from where this I thought I could.

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I'll make sure that he's tagged again for this I think I can do that.

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All right um we'll wait for him to give a little bit of review for that one, and then thank you PR all right. So those are all the open pull requests. uh Do we have any open blogs?

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It seems we don't. We just have a PhD printed support, which is still in progress and um w3c Trace context, validation, requests, okay, somebody everybody's taking that.

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I think this can be closed. Okay, it's the first I remember. This was already handled in the Olympia.

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Yeah, oh I, that's right, okay works for me and then we had nothing required for beta, which is good, but I. Think we have some more discussion points below about uh the Beta release so uh should I make. Would you like to talk first about your automatic hooks generation? Yes,.

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So can I share a screen for a minute or so absolutely.

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Okay, do you see it mm-hmm So currently, in order to to use this our instrumentation extension and to instrument uh specific function? We have to add this piece of code, and so I was thinking about uh writing as a kind of tool that would generate that stuff for us, so it it would go through file or set of set of files or or maybe a whole application or library and generate this kind of hook. Hooks for us and I would like to know.

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What's your opinion that on that, would that be worth it or or not? What do.

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You think I don't think that talking every functioning method is very useful, because it will add lots of noise that users might not want to create an additional explain for.

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So I'm not too sure if it's really useful to have some automatic hooking.

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Yes, so you use you are you are saying that it would be useful right or because um or.

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No, no, not really. Okay, inside of debug environments, I, don't see where user would want to spend for every single functional method call.

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So so, what's what's the uh currently uh when we would like to instrument- let's say um library or I, don't know, probably it will be useful for their libraries mostly. So then we will write these definitions of the cooks manually right. That's the the.

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We should provide a simpler web assembly weapon that just generates this generic span, so that users can just provide a list of classes and functions. They want to work and for stuff like HTTP requests. We have to write custom logic because we need to capture additional attributes.

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Yeah, that's that's correct.

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Okay, because I was thinking that this tool, maybe would be useful for us, as a kind of uh you know generator, for uh that would be useful for the implementers of this uh of this instrumentations.

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But okay, so that's that's the only thing I wanted to talk about, and there is one question that I have this context: storage here: uh how internally it's implemented. What? What's that it's a kind of, uh if uh comparing it for, for instance, to see it's a kind of thread, Locker, storage or or how it's it works internally.

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Internally, it's a linked list of the active contexts in PHP. We don't need to lock because we are first, we are single threaded, uh-huh and yeah. It's a linked list with fiber support very Fork the list. If a fiber is created and switch between the lists if fibers are suspended or resumed.

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Okay. Okay, thank you!

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So that's it from my site.

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Cool. Thank you. All right, I will continue to share my screen for the topics.

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All right uh blockers for Beta release, uh we talked about support for PHP 7.4, already metric SDK Behavior with 7.4 and 7.8 I think we talked about that last week, but um it's not metrics that are going to go debates. Just are it's just the tracing implementation? So that's not us um as front of mind and then there's two API related issues.

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That one's completed and then 723.

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um devices were you, were you, the one that was talking about this last week, that you.

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Had yes, yes and the pr with the renaming to from episode spent to spend as much so I think this is fine for beta at least now.

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Okay, well, then, I guess we'll be doing a Beta release this week right.

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All right is there anything else that anybody would like to bring up today.

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All right, if nothing else we can adjourn for today, I will do the theater released this week.

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All right, we'll see you all around.

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Thank you, bye.