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B
Did
you
you
you
sheared
yourself,
I.
A
B
C
F
G
A
Yeah
well,
my
first
question
is
just
I
wasn't
sure
where
we
left
off
on
actually
creating
a
survey
that
had
been
something
that
had
been
planned
out.
So
I
was
hoping
sharp
was
gonna,
be
here
because
I
think
she
was.
She
was
gonna
actually
turn
that
into
a
a
google
form.
A
Here's
the
form
itself,
so
let
me
just
post
a
link
in
slack
and
I'll
post.
Oh.
E
A
But
I
see
char
actually
had
some
questions
about
whether
or
not
we
wanted
to
use.
A
A
Know
if
they've
even
used
open
telemetry
before
so
we're
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
of
what
what
role
they
have,
what
level
of
experience
they
have?
A
How
have
they
instrumented
their
code
when
they
did
it?
What
languages
and
components
did
they
use?
Did
they
like
it
or
not?
Definitely,
gonna
recommend
open,
telemetry
and
then
just
kind
of
their
satisfaction
for
the
installation
experience
maintaining
it
running
it
over
time.
A
Troubleshooting
guidance
included
as
part
of
product,
the
performance
overhead
and
the
included
instrumentation.
So
we
just
want
to
know
like
we
kind
of
boiled
it
down
to
these
being
the
sort
of
core
quant
quantifiable
pieces
of
information.
We
could
get
out
of
a
general
audience
and
then
some
just
qualitative
questions
on
what
you
know
makes
adopting
open
telemetry
hard.
A
Is
there
any
feedback
they
want
to
give
us?
And
you
know,
can
we
get
a
hold
of
you
to
talk
to
you
further?
A
So
it's
a
very
short
and
sweet
form
and
I'm
gonna
generate
a
qr
code,
pointing
people
at
this
thing
and
we'll
see
if
last
minute,
we
can
kind
of
ask
various
observability
related
people
like
people
who
are
giving
talks
like
I'm
going
to
try
to
contact
all
the
people
who
have
like
a
an
observability
related
talk
and
ask
them
if
they
can
pack
that
qr
code
into
their
slides
or
a
link
to
this
form
into
their
slides.
A
A
So
I
guess
my
first
question
before
we
get
into
like:
do
we
need
a
fancier
rapper
around
this
thing,
which
I
kind
of
agree
with
ben.
Like
probably
not
do
people
have
any
feedback
about
this
as
a
form
to
give
out
at
kubecon?
B
B
Of
the
questions
themselves,
I
read
this
before,
but
it
seems
like-
and
I'm
happy
about
this-
that
it's
focused
on
like
an
end
user
persona,
but
it
might
be
good.
I
don't
know
if
the
like
radio
buttons
at
the
top
are
even
the
right
thing.
It's
like.
Is
it
more
like
check
which
ones
apply
in
terms
of
your
relation
to
open
telemetry?
B
There
probably
should
be
one
in
there
somewhere,
like
I
am
an
actual
like
open,
telemetry,
committer
and
like
I
spend
a
meaningful
amount
of
effort
thinking
about
the
core
repos
or
something
just
to
make
sure
that
we
frankly
weed
those
people
out.
I
mean
I'm
I'm
much
more
doing
that,
but
I'm
worried
that
we're
going
to
have
like
you
know,
20
responses
or
something,
and
we
won't
even
know
that
12
of
them
are
from
people
who
are
maintainers
or
something
you
know
it's
like.
B
I
mean
that's
the
nightmare
scenario
right,
so
I
just
think
it
would
be
good
to
a
like.
You
can
have
multiple.
You
know
you
could
both
produce
and
consume
open,
telemetry
signals
and
then
also
just
that
we
can
weed
out
people
who
are
or
let
me
not
weed
out.
We
can
disaggregate
people
who
are,
you
know
actively
part
of
the
committing
crew.
D
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
vague
idea
here
is
if
people
are
saying
that
you
know
it
was
like
they
had
a
very
good
or
bad
insulation
experience
having.
I
think
the
idea
here
was
maybe
to
to
see
if
that
was
like
grouped
around
particular
users,
but
it's
definitely
not
a
complicated
form
where
they
fill
this
out.
For,
like
every
single
component
they've
said,
they've
said
they
used
right.
A
Yes
limit
your
code,
I
agree.
That's
that's
a
better
better
way
of
phrasing
that.
F
A
Cool
are
there
any
more
like
qualitative
long-form
questions?
People
want.
We
really
just
just
have
the
two
right
now,
which
is
like
an
open-ended
give
us
your
feedback
and
the
other
one
is
just
what
what
what
what's
your
primary
blocker,
but
I
think
we
probably
have
room
for,
like
maybe
one
more.
D
B
D
E
I
was
going
to
say
something
along
the
lines
of
what
rin
just
said.
I
don't
know,
would
it
be
useful
or
is
it
covered
like
under
the
would
you
should
like
to
share
anything
with
the
community,
something
like
I'm
interested
to
know
where,
like
they,
how
they
would
like
to
connect
with
other
end
users,
like
what
kind
of
forum
like
I
know,
sarah
was
thinking
about
a
monthly
like
lean
coffee
format,
type
thing.
E
As
an
example,
I
don't
know
if
that's
considered
covered
under
the
you
know,
would
you
like
to
share
anything
or
if
you
could
incorporate
that
into
something
into
what
been
suggested.
A
We
could
definitely,
we
could
add
a
specific
question
around.
How
would
you
like
to
get
more
involved
in
the
community?
A
I
mean,
I
guess,
there's
maybe
two
ways
to
phrase
it.
One
is
like:
how
would
you
like
to
get
more
involved
in
the
community?
The
other
is
like.
How
would
you
like
to
give
feedback
to
the
project
right
like
do
you
want
to
meet
with
any
users?
Do
you
want
right,
you
know,
do
you
want
a
shouting
box?
You
can
shout
into.
A
Oh
I'll
bring
this
up
with
with
with
char
and
see
see.
If
she
has
further
thoughts,
I
think
reese.
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
to
ask
some
kind
of
question
of
how
would
you,
how
would
you
like
prefer
to
give
us
feedback
or
like
interact
with
the
project
like
that?
That
sounds
like
helpful
for
this
group
moving
forward.
A
A
D
B
Yeah,
my
other
idea
was
just
I
think
it
would
be.
You
know,
like
the
rows,
would
be
traces
metrics
logs
and
the
columns
would
be
like
what
is
your
organization's
sort
of
like?
What
are
your
plans
regarding
open
telemetry
and
these
various
signals?
I
have
heard
a
lot
of
people
who
are
starting
to
use
like
open,
telemetry
sort
of
synonymously
with
tracing,
which
I
find
to
be
a
little
bit
just
worrisome
so
and
then
I
also
see
folks
who
are
like
yeah.
B
You
know
it's
not
meant
to
be
a
dig
morgan
but
like
yeah,
I'm
using
splunk
for
logging
and
they're
kind
of
forcing
us
towards
hotel
for
logging,
but
whatever
you
know,
which
is
awesome,
which
is.
G
B
Right,
no,
it's
all
good.
I
mean
yeah
like
yeah
interesting
just
to
understand.
Like
you
know,
we
have,
we
are
specifically
not
going
to
adopt
hotel
for
x,
yeah
gun,
adopting
hotel
for
x.
We,
you
know
or
sorry,
we
plan.
So
we
never
will
we
plan
to
we've
started
or
we've
finished,
or
you
know
some
version
of
finish
for
these
different
signals
or
like
how
committed
are
we?
I
think
that
would
be
interesting
because
I'm
really
not
sure
what
the
answers
will
be.
G
G
Cloud
that
I
work
on
and
there's
just
plain
old
splunk
that
everyone
knows
for
logging,
for
the
latter,
we've
already
placed
all
the
kubernetes
instrumentation
with
hotel,
we're
going
to
be
replacing
more
this
year
like
for
like
vms
and
things
without
tell,
and
so
there
are.
There
is
going
to
be
this
wave
of
splunk
users
who
are
now
using
hotel,
but
mostly
for
logs,
we're
hoping
that
they
start.
G
C
G
A
B
B
A
C
H
And
and
sorry
folks,
I
I
feel
like
I'm
I'm
creeping
in
the
background,
but
my
name
is
aaron.
Boyd
and
morgan
was
actually
talking
to
one
of
our
customers.
Yesterday,
you
remember
that
morgan,
so
I'm
not
exactly
sure
who
the
persona
was
sorry,
I
joined
late,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
customers.
H
So
I'm
on
the
consulting
side
and
we
have
a
lot
of
customers
that
are
are
looking
to
adopt
and
their
concern
right
now
is
they're,
not
sure
where
to
start
how
to
start
where
to
go
for
like
they
obviously
know
where
to
go
for
some
information
but
they're
having
difficulty
just
processing,
documentation
and
and
finding
that
insertion
point.
Is
there
any
interest
in
in
just
trying
to
determine
where
some
of
these
larger
companies
are
on
that
journey
of
discovery?
H
I
don't
know
if
that's
worth
capturing,
but
we
have
like
the
one
that
morgan
was
talking
to
yesterday,
the
you
know
two
trillion
assets
under
management
and
they
are
fully
intending
on
going
all
in
an
hotel
and
they're
just
trying
to
uncover
what
what
does
that
mean,
and
where
do
we
start
and
we
have
cohorts
of
capability
in
the
company.
Some
people
are
just
starting
to
check
in
code.
H
Others
are,
you
know,
staged
event
driven
architectures,
but
they're
not
really
sure
where
that
insertion
should
be
and
and
that's
where
we're
trying
to
help
them.
But
I
don't
know
if
that's
of
interest,
but
I
think
some
of
those
larger
companies
are
trying
to
figure
some
of
that
out
and
I
don't.
H
A
This
survey
we're
talking
about
right
here,
is
what
we're
going
to
be
giving
out
at
kubecon
next
week,
and
so
it's
sort
of
a
generic
developer
oriented
survey
because
we
don't
we
don't
know
too
much
about
who
we're
handing
it
out
to
other
than
their
attending
kubecon
and
would
be
willing
to
fill
a
survey
out.
So
so
this
one's
pretty
generic
but
yeah.
A
We
do
have
a
a
list
of
surveys
that
we
are
thinking
about
and
I
think
what
you're
saying
around,
like
both
like,
where
within
a
company,
are
people
trying
to
adopt
this
and
also
pain
points
for
adoption.
A
So
I
think
when
it
comes
to
like
instrumentation
or
documentation
and
getting
started,
we
we
have
like
a
significant
pile
of
feedback.
At
this
point,
and
personally
I
want
us
to
like
really
overhaul
our
website
with,
like
all
the
information
we
know
and
like
like
then
do
an
information
gathering
drive
because
I
feel
like
until
then
we're
just
gonna
get
the
same
feedback
of
like
you.
Don't
have
any
installation
guides.
So
it's
really
hard
to
install
this
thing.
A
H
Helps
same
with
charity
over
at
honeycomb,
so
like
there's,
definitely
some
good
primers
out
there.
G
A
I
mean
we
know
that,
like
practical,
I'm
a
practitioner
trying
to
just
install
this
damn
thing
in
my
service
and
like
what
their
their
difficulties
are,
but
it
would
definitely
be
helpful
to
understand
at
like
a
higher
level
like
I'm
a
I'm
a
decision
maker
or
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
zeitgeist
of
this
whole
thing
like
open,
telemetry's,
like
view
of
observability,
and
why
I
should
adopt
like
that
world
view
like
it
would
definitely
be
helpful
to
understand
where
people
are
coming
from
better
and
whether
like
what
we're
writing
about,
makes
sense
to
them.
A
A
That's
good
stuff,
I
I
feel
like
I
feel
pretty
good
about
this
feedback.
We
just
went
through
on
this.
This
particular
doc.
I
think,
that's
all
very
actionable
stuff.
I
can
work
with
shar
to
get
that
cleaned
up
and
and
we'll
roll
this
out
at
kubecon
and
see
what
happens
awesome.
I
guess
real
quick
because
she
did
set
it
up.
Let's
look
at
the
fancy
version.
G
E
D
A
G
A
Right
I'll
give
that
feedback,
we're
we're
fine
with
this
form
and
I'll
post
the
the
qr
code
after
this
meeting
once
I've
generated
it
great.
A
That's
what
I
got
we
got
about
five
minutes
left
people
have
other
topics,
I'll
talk
about.
B
H
We
have
quite
a
few
folks
that
I
think,
would
be
really
interested
if,
if
this
is
the
right
forum
for
them
to
kind
of
participate-
and
I
think.
B
B
But
I
mean
talking
with
folks
in
similar
roles
where
you're
doing
like
sort
of
really,
I
don't
know,
hope
you
don't
mind
this
portrayal
but
very
high
in
consulting
around
like
complicated
enterprise
software
stuff,
like
you,
have
a
lot
of
exposure
to
people
who
probably
aren't
trying
to
be
polite
about
hotels.
So
because
you
know
like
you're,
not
it's
not
your
brand
or
whatever.
So
I
mean
it
would
be
great
to
have,
and
you
can
come
back
if
you
want
and
just
share
some
anonymized
stories
about
where
people
are
struggling.
B
H
Yeah,
no
would
love
to
do
that.
If
this
is
the
right
forum,
I
I
know
we
can
get
some
voices
in
here
and.
F
B
H
When
I,
when
I
logged
in,
I
went
oh,
my
gosh
like
this
is
this
is
the
who's
who
of
of
this
space
and
so
so
ben,
for
example.
I
know
this
customer,
like
morgan,
talked
to
this
customer
yesterday.
I
know
they're
interested
in
talking
to
you
we're
giving
them
charity's
book
as
an
example.
H
H
Yeah
I've
quoted
ted's
book
several
times
so
so
I
think
it
would
be,
they
would
love
to
be
here
and-
and
I
think
they
would
love
to
talk
about
what
they
feel.
This
means
to
them
as
well,
because
it's
not
just
observability,
they
have
interest
in
resilience,
engineering
and
and
what
this
means
to
that
regression
management
business,
transaction
tracing
like
there's
a
you
know,
observability
rising
tide,
raises
all
boats
and
there's
they
have
interest
across
the
entire
enterprise
on
what
they
feel.
H
This
could
mean
where
they're
struggling
right
now
is
like
morgan
jumped
into
it
yesterday,
when
you
have
2700
sources
coming
in
their
their
time
to
market
was
hey,
let's
put
in
a
cots
for
at
least
an
observability
pipeline,
and
now
the
question
is
hey:
should
we
put
an
hotel
collector
in
front
of
that?
What
does
that
pattern?
Look
like
we're
talking
about
adoption
patterns
for
for
folks
to
actually
even
consume
this.
H
Do
we
do
this
passively
there's
so
many
discussions
happening
right
now,
they're,
all
animated
and
there's
lots
of
passionate
people,
and
I
actually
wasn't
anticipating
that
you
have
developers
in
this
community
that
have
been
there
20
years
and
said
we
have.
We
have
been
horrible
for
20
years
and
so
they're
coming
out
of
the
woodwork
with
their
impressions
and
and
guidance,
it's
a
it's
an
animated
group
and
so
anyways
it's
I
would
love
to
have
some
of
them.
B
H
Everyone
I'll
give
you
some
bios
and
such
for
folks
that
you
can
expect
to
to
be
participating,
and
we
can
maybe
talk
about
who
you
would
rather
hear
from.
So
we
have
like
global
technology
standards
and
architecture
groups
that
are
involved.
We
have
the
some
of
the
product
teams
that
are
going
to
be
consumers.
We
have
leadership
so,
and
you
know
we
can
part
that
out
as
well.
Okay,
yeah.
A
Oh
talk
to
me
so
we've
got
a
we're.
We're
building
a
list
talk.