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B
A
Yeah,
I
think
it's
gonna
be
another
few
days
at.
B
A
On
the
the
gradle
plug-in
stuff,
this
is
not
relevant
to
the
release
right.
We're
not
publishing
these
at
this
point
anyway,.
A
C
Yeah,
that's
by
the
way,
very,
very
interesting
failure.
I
I
I
took
a
look
at
that
so
hibernate.
In
its
latest
version
there
was
one
fix:
let's
remove
the
these
unused
null
pointer,
except
null
point
null
now
checks.
Let's
remove
this.
I
need
now
check,
guess
what
now
they
have
no
pointer
exception,
because
there
is
a
legitimate
way
where
some
thing
can
remove
null
and
now
they
have
no
pointer
exception
because
they
have
removed
null
null
checks.
B
B
C
A
B
A
B
B
A
Okay,
so
github.
What
was
it
was
like.
B
B
A
B
A
You,
like
instrumentation
dot,
not
even
instrumentation,
it's
java
agent
right.
A
B
B
I
think
the
requirement
for
like
again
this
is
the
stupidity
like
all
of
these
always
require
personal
access
to
open
the
most
annoying
feature
of
github.
So
if
that
ever
gets
solved,
then
we
can
probably
get
on
a
meeting
before
that.
I
wouldn't
try
automating
like
to
have
the
sdk
release
trigger
a
build
in
our
repo,
that's
possible,
but
of
course,
a
vip
as
usual.
I.
A
Cool:
let's
talk
about.
A
Change,
gradle
plug-in
okay,
so
I
understand
this
correctly.
The
proposal
is
just
put
everything,
so
I
was
this
one
I
understood,
but
I
was
not.
I
didn't
follow
if
this
was
or
was
this
part
of
this
discussion
over
here
of?
Should
we
just
keep,
as
is
everything.
A
So
there
were
there's
two
questions,
though
one
is
two
separate
artifacts,
the
read
the
marker
marker,
no,
the
two
separate
artifact,
the
real
artifact,
the
real
artifacts
and
so
honorable.
B
B
B
A
Okay,
you're
good
with
that
nikita
yeah,
all
right,
so
this
right,
so
they're
all
gonna
go
under
there.
C
C
A
B
C
Io,
open
telemetry
up
public
plugins
hotel
dot,
our
own
specific
plugins,
which
are
not
meant
to
be
applied
by
by
any
external
budget.
B
And
then,
within
these
hotel,
I
guess
we
have
two
that
don't
end
with
conventions
or
three
and
that's.
I
think
the
reason
I
ended
up
like
this
is
like
those
three
are
new
features:
we've
sort
of
created,
while
the
conventions
are
just
how
we
configure
gradle
features
okay,
but
it
really
doesn't
matter
yeah,
yeah
yeah.
I.
B
A
I
was
kind
of
wondering
if,
like
like,
just
dropping
the
dash
yeah,
it's
also
reasonable.
I
think
I
sort
of.
A
Yeah,
okay,.
A
B
A
A
All
right,
vertex.
C
B
A
C
I
think
so,
I'm
not
sure
I
remembered
everything.
So
yes,
I
think
that
if
library
provides
their
own
instrumentation,
then
we
shouldn't
duplicate
that
if
that
library
instrumentation
is
not
up
to
open
telemetry
standard
or
our
usual
ways
of
doing
things,
we
should
talk
to
them
and
try
to
change
that.
But
that's
that's.
It.
A
Cool
so
you're,
the
the
I
was
worried
about
sort
of
like
splunk
or,
like
you
know,
vendor
pressures
of
still
delivering
something.
C
Yeah,
so
I'm
currently
talking
as
open,
kilometer,
maintainer
and
yeah.
Everything
should
be
at
library
at
not
and
not
in
our
repo.
C
Well,
it's
totally
possible
to
send
them.
Please
talk
to
them.
B
A
B
A
C
A
We
don't
like
your,
you
know,
we're
gonna
do
ours
and
we're
gonna
direct
people
to
ours
and
not
to
the
libraries
other
than
that.
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
the
you
know
getting
something
that
works
and
like
it's
very
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
often
to
work
with
another
project,
and
then
you
miss
version,
there's
the
version
gaps
and
spotty
version
coverage
that
we
won't
be
able
to
address,
because
it's
we'll
only
be
fixing
it
in
the
latest
version
that
kind
of
stuff.
C
I
can
I
mean
we
already
talked
briefly
yesterday
with
lowry
about
my
wish
to
move
for
a
lot
of
instrumentation
from
our
reaper
to
country,
and
he
raised
exactly
the
same
concern
that
well
separated
outside
of
open
of
main
maintainers
like
daily
job
so
like
so
that's
very
same
very
similar,
also
not
not
so
extreme
case,
and
I
believe
I
not
convinced
him,
but
he
said.
Okay,
maybe.
A
A
What's
this
yeah,
so
what's
going
on
with
the
the
build
I
saw,
I
was
trying
to
follow
those
gradle
cache
github
actions
pr's,
but
I
didn't
really
did
that
make
our
build
faster
is
our.
What's
our
build,
the
best
builds
the
past
couple
days
since.
C
But
we
still
have
quite
a
few
cute
builds,
so
yeah.
A
I
I
have
sarah
novotny
who's
on
the
the
open
telemetry
gc
and
at
microsoft,
she's,
connecting
to
the
github
folks
to
pursue
getting
us
bumped.
A
A
Yeah,
that
was
part
of
my
ask
basically
like
is
there
some
way
that
we
can
see
so
we
can
see
which
repos
you
know
are
the
problems
and
maybe.
A
C
A
Suspicion
yeah,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
have
some
evidence.
A
Are
we
house
how
much
time
are
we
waiting
around
and
then
we
can
see
if
that
improves,
yeah
yeah
cause
sergey
sergey
looked
and
he
has
he
has
his
tc
rights,
so
he
can
see
org
wide
stuff,
but
he
couldn't
find
me.
Oh
yeah.
B
A
I
was
telling
nikita-
I
was
telling
the
beginning
of
my
apologies-
that
getting
pulled
in
other
directions
for
for
a
little
bit
here
so
seems
to
be
cyclical,
but
I'll
be
back.
C
B
C
B
C
A
C
A
C
C
C
B
They
have
a
perfectly
good
pipeline
where
you
can
intercept
two
steps
to
the
pipeline,
but
both
of
the
steps
happen
after
redirect,
rather
than
like
one
of
them
happened
before
one
of
them
happening
after,
like
you'd
normally
expect
it
was
just
the
weirdest
thing
and
as
far
as
I
could
tell
neither
of
the
neither
is
the
funeral
open
tracing
handle,
redirects
correctly,
I'm
sure
datadog
had
some
bug
related
to
it
a
long
time
ago.
That's
why
we
have
all
those
tests
related
to
redirects
right
decline,
dustin
to
get
those
to
pass
through
cards
and
weirdness.
B
The
redirect
java
agent
doesn't
use
this
pipeline
mechanism
which
all
the
librarians
do
it
just
wraps
the
methods,
and
so
that's
at
the
outside.
So
it
doesn't
matter.
Oh
so
we
don't
capture
redirects
for
there's
no
way
to
capture
redirects
with
the
job
region
at
least
yeah.
It's
not,
and
here
I
don't
particularly
capture
them.
We
could
cover
them
later
if
we
wanted
to,
but
first
I
just
have
to
handle
them
to
make
sure
we
end.
After
all,
the
redirects.
A
A
A
Redirects,
capturing
redirects
and
retries
sort
of
she's
got
some
sort
of
for
opinionated.
Take
on
that.
B
A
B
A
Well,
then,
until
yeah.
B
A
B
A
Cool
so.
C
A
Cool
all
right:
well,
I
will
see
you
on
thursday,
then
nikita.