Open Telemetry Uncategorized, 15 Dec 2022

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OpenTelemetry Prometheus WG

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Ted are you here.

A

I didn't have my video on earlier, because I was like: oh I, gotta eat my oatmeal and then after that, I was like. Well now it's just weird if I come on, if I just feel my face now. So um oh that was rad. I thought that was like yeah.

B

These sessions are good. um It's it's always interesting for me to hear I'm really hearing from the other end users and actually seeing how much engineering effort people are putting in to their Telemetry infrastructure, like kind of always like blows my mind it it's a reminder of like that. There's there's a lot more work. We can be doing Beyond just just the individual collectors like people um like it's, it's really difficult to to run this Telemetry infrastructure. Like that's.

B

That's always a big takeaway people are putting a lot of engineering resources into this stuff, um which involves a lot of Reinventing the wheel.

A

Yeah um I think yeah. That was something that I've heard about our users to like the Enterprise, more advanced users, they've built um like abstraction layers on top of stuff and.

C

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um It's interesting, it would be. You need to gather all those in one spot and I was thinking the other day that we haven't promoted the community survey in a while um we'll probably get to get some feedback, and actually do you happen to have the link to the community survey. I haven't been able to find it um jeez.

D

Let me think about that.

B

Heck would it have been posted last.

A

I know I did something around. Oh, it's all unplugged, um she I know there's more people that wanted to join okay. Let me.

A

Okay, where is these two.

D

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Oh interesting.

A

I just realized: there's almost 200 people in the hotel user, research, Channel, nice.

B

um um I found the responses to our last quarterly survey.

A

Are you looking at the Tableau or the.

B

Like I found a spreadsheet I'm I'm just going through the meeting notes, seeing looking for I'm doing like a fine for the term survey in our meeting notes just to see if we posted a link to this thing.

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Okay, performs.

B

I think I may have found.

E

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Yes, so I think there's so I found these things, I'll post them in the same link. So there's this and this I think the form facade is like built off of the Google form. I. Think that's how we did.

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Yes, um and so, if I switch against.

B

But I'm not sure where the um with, like the admin view for this form lives.

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But this is the one.

D

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But but I I had nothing to do with with building or running this, so.

A

um Yeah I think Char um put this together before. Well, it was whoever the previous and these working group people were um before I really got involved.

E

A

Okay, so you don't have the admin view. You said: let.

B

Me I mean I, don't let.

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If we wanted to update any of these questions,.

D

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Yeah I mean I assume it is a a form.

B

um It's just here's.

A

I mean we don't have time yeah.

B

I'm finding some, but they look.

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They look like old, like not that the form we were using.

E

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Think this was stuff.

B

Yeah yeah I, don't think I have this one so chart. Maybe I don't know if you still have contact info for sure, but maybe maybe ping her be.

A

Like do you know where this lives, yeah, I, think I I'll do that um I see her pop into cmcf slack, sometimes yeah.

B

She might still respond there, I wonder if we were, if we were doing things by the book, then there's the open, Telemetry Google account, um which you should be able to access, and this this stuff should be owned by that account. That is like a thing we are not very good at, but we are trying to move away from.

D

B

Like everyone just creates these things under their individual accounts and then we can yeah find them or access them, um but there is a open, Telemetry Google account. Let me.

D

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Community repo.

E

A

Yeah because I wonder if she could switch ownership of this, so we could keep everything because I think it it's set up to populate the tableau.

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Dashboard, which we're in.

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B

Yeah I, don't know where we, where the heck we published.

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So I dropped a link to the public Tableau dashboard that shark created we're. It I believe it's still pulling from the latest results, because.

B

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Is updated yesterday.

B

And then we've got this info here in the community repo, which is.

C

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Pointing to this stuff.

A

Oh, hey, look: Henrik is actually listed as a survey owner, so maybe he has.

B

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Okay rad, so let me put in our meeting notes to.

D

Reach out to Henrik about.

D

uh The community survey foreign.

A

I wanted to kind of evaluate what this group has done this past year and see what we want to like. If we want to continue like all the things that we did and then plus new things we can add, um so we have the end user discussion groups which I think are going well.

A

um The only thing is the emea group, which is hosted alternately by malcol, housenblaz and Martin. Three. um They are struggling with attendance I. Think they've had like, on average like two or three people show up um so I'm.

B

A

Which group is this? The EU group.

B

A

Yeah, okay um and obviously I. You know I, don't I'm, not very involved in like the EU side of um stuff.

B

When do they meet I, don't see it on the calendar. They.

A

Meet every third Tuesday, so their next one.

B

Is not oh I see yeah like 2 A.M, yeah.

A

um So I'm not really sure how to drive attendance for those, um and then we have the Asia region, one starting next month, which is really exciting. um Prene from cigno's volunteer to facilitate so very exciting and we'll see how those go um and yeah I think. Maybe if we started those off with like okay, these are going to be reported and see. You know how that goes. I think I think.

B

That's fine yeah, the I think what David said really nailed it for me, which is like anyone like individual Engineers aren't going to Care. Anyone who has like a company policy they're trying to adhere to is going to adhere to it. Regardless of what kind of rules we set up right so um and my experiences people will still show up and give feedback right, they're just lit. They will limit themselves in terms of the leveler types of detail, they're willing to go into so it probably.

B

We could probably do away with it, um because it's not something in the engineers care about it's about adhering to company policy and the Chatham House doesn't adhere to company policy. So.

A

That's true: that's.

B

A

Yeah I think when you know we've had the original idea. It was to you know, um protect.

B

Yeah, it makes it makes plenty of sense, but it's like um if you work for apple or somebody who cares right, then this is still too public right, like like honesty policy, you know, there's nothing preventing me from screen. Recording this meeting and Publishing it or you know just like saying so and so said: Apple did this and then they're in trouble.

B

uh You know like there's so like they have, they would people who work for those kinds of companies are, in my experience always on guard about yeah, not not saying stuff, regardless of you know, I think even in environments where it's like, um like not recorded at all, it's like an in-person thing.

B

um People who work for those companies just like limit what they they say according to the rules, because you know they're just like not.

D

Allowed to say it.

C

B

And if if they.

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Say it in public.

B

And then it boomerangs back to them they're going to get in trouble regardless of right. You know yeah.

A

No, that's a good point. Yeah. We didn't think about that. um Yeah.

B

It's a worthy worthy uh thing to try but yeah. Maybe maybe we can prop it and it's not a big deal and.

D

It would definitely make it.

B

D

B

Know how much the recording part matters too much but I do think.

B

um The recording would be helpful and I wonder if, like for notes, I know you're taking good notes, but I wonder what do you think about like moving that into more like an agenda doc like like shared notes that we that we attached to the.

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Mean yeah I mean if we're going to you know, follow like the Sig format more closely like that makes total sense. Yeah.

B

A

Can go in and see if something's been discussed and um yeah.

B

Totally like I I, think um I, don't think we should I think the way you're running it with the um the agile board like in the voting I. Think that's good I, don't think we should switch to like people just jot things down in an agenda and we go through it because I think that does help uh um it lets us know what people think are important and I.

B

Think that's good, but but just like sharing like I, think it's great that you're taking the notes, but it shouldn't be just on you to take them, and so, if the it's like a shared doc, then you know other people can help um and it would make it easier to like share those notes with anyone who cares, because they could just go to the meeting and be like.

D

B

There's a note stock and then read, you know, read up and uh it's work, but I do think like if maybe one way to help Drive attendance to this is if we are publishing some kind of write-up about this stuff on some Cadence and and it could like go on our blog and like that, could all be anonymized at that point. But just you know.

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Know I have to go back and look at my notes and reorganize them, um because I kind of you know just jot it down as people are talking and I miss there's some things.

B

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The thing I see useful as publishing.

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B

We presume, like the question, like the people who show up to this, are somewhat representative of the larger community in terms of like the questions that they have or the problems that they're facing, and the degree to which we have like an answer for them uh in the meeting. It seems like publishing, like not all the details, but just like publishing that level of information people were struggling with this issue or wondering about this, and uh the answer for now is like you should hop into the hotel, collector, Channel and like ask.

B

What's up- or you know, um have a look at this thing. um If you haven't looked at it yet or there's this project, that's underway um like like, if we just published like that level of stuff on the blog that.

C

B

Thing that would be interesting for people, because then it would also get those questions, search, indexed and stuff, and it might drive attendance further in the future.

A

B

But it's definitely work we would have to like I almost wonder if we're always going to have this meeting like after that meeting. Maybe we can just use this meeting to like do that as a group. Well, it's like all fresh in our heads.

A

I mean that would be great because then it's not on just one person, yeah.

B

That's that's what I'm saying like I think this should be moved into like a note, I shouldn't, be it shouldn't, be like Reese's job to do all this like. This should be like a protocol where it's like we take notes during it in our meeting afterwards, we try to like just pull scan through those notes, pull out some highlights.

B

um Maybe when we're taking notes as a group, we could be maybe like bold these things as they come along like when it's like. This is a question bold it and, if someone's like I, have an answer for that. Just like bold that line so that, like and and.

D

If we're doing this as.

B

A group- maybe we can all help each other to to do that.

A

um That would be great.

B

um Because I'm I'm happy to help like live edit, those notes as we as we take on you.

A

Know, oh okay, excellent yeah, well for the home series, there's like some stuff that I just technically I'm like I, don't know what this is, and so it's hard for me to articulate.

B

Yeah yeah yeah: we should just make them public I find these Community groups. Are they they'll help with the notes like people are, are good about that um and that's also maybe a place where we're like we're the notes. So, if someone like doesn't want something written down or feels like they're misquoted, you know they have an opportunity to to edit it themselves.

A

Yeah um yeah I like that I, don't think these always coincide this one. We we schedule because next week is like I, think a lot of people and um but yeah if we could figure out some way to maybe you know even just like 15 minutes afterward, if we're all working on it together, I, don't think we need yeah well.

B

The the next one seems like it lines up on the 19th.

A

Yes, I think they like every now and then they do.

B

And the one after that lines up. Oh.

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In February so.

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B

Wait hang on let's what's.

A

This February 16th for.

B

Some reason we have two monthly discussion group and then on the 16th and then February 23rd, there's a end user discussion group. That's a little weird I! Don't know why that's going on! Let.

A

Me take a look. We've had some issues with the College calendar.

B

Is always like a weird freaking mystery for some reason, but the one that's labeled, the monthly group so far, it seems like it always lands on with an end user working group following it at least all the way through March.

A

I, don't see one for the 23rd. You.

B

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Is this just on my personal sorry, uh February uh February 23rd, there's.

D

B

It has a slightly different. Oh, this is Amer.

A

That is ours. The Amber.

C

But okay, so this is.

A

We fixed some things: um Rin fixed. Oh, you know what I'm an idiot this.

B

Is every eight weeks on Thursday this one I think we should just delete this one I think this is old or something yes,.

A

Yes, um because the next one should be the 16th, no, the 23rd, so it.

B

Has a different name.

B

So we have the one that monthly on the third Thursday.

C

B

The end user monthly discussion group and then if you go to February 23rd, there's one just called open: Telemetry end user, Discussion, Group Amer every eight weeks on Thursday. Yes,.

A

Can you delete that one.

B

Actually, let me just delete.

D

All of it isn't falling.

B

Great and that didn't affect the other one: okay, good, okay, yeah I. Think because it's the way it's laid out, it does seem like it: it lands, nope, I, guess by the time we get to April, it doesn't, but the next three dudes that sounds good.

A

Start with those for now and then yeah look at April when it gets here, yeah problem for another month, yeah.

B

I think yeah I mean I. Don't want this like pile up to being like a lot of work for us, but.

E

B

Does seem like um so a thing I am trying to get stood up better in the new year is an actual product management process for the spec spec log with the TC members that is like slowly coming together, uh where you know we have like issues and oteps and like projects, and you know the on some Cadence like that- gets reviewed in a public manner by the spec maintainers and they pick and we we tried to be more concentrated on like okay.

B

We are working on these things right now, so everyone like pile your attention onto these things and then get them done and then work on the other things, because right now we it's just like things come in and we work on them or not, and it's like very diffuse and uh it's like very slow going and it's hard and like things that seem like they're important, don't get attention, and uh so the hope there is it'll make us have.

C

More concentrated.

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B

The things that are not getting attention, it's like super clear to those people that that it's not happening, so everyone isn't in just like a state of wondering what's going on um so if we can get that going in the new year, what I would like to see for, like the end user working group, is like, um as we are getting feedback from the community like um what is the way that this group um kind of related to, like you know the like the way Morgan kind of like pulls the community about like what's important, like oh.

E

B

A way to like figure out like an official pipeline of like this group collecting the diffuse feedback from the community and trying to figure out a way to go from like diffuse feedback into like a list of projects or priorities or like something that could get fed into the um the the product project management. Like the spec group, that's trying to decide what we should work on, having an official way that, like the end user feedback, gets fed to them in a way. That's like useful either is like hey.

B

We need to start a group to do this, because it's a big issue and we're not paying attention to it, or at least like when trying to prioritize what we should be working on like these are like the guidelines that, like Drive our prioritization, you know um I think if the community can see that like interacting with us about what they want. Actually like leads directly into you know publicly this stuff being put on our priority list, I think that that would help, and at least at lightstep and everywhere else, I've ever worked.

B

This is always like the frustrating thing. It's like you do this: you do this work of getting feedback from your customers or users or whoever, and then it's just like. Where does it go like.

A

Yeah I know you.

B

Know what I mean like like that that there's like always this, like yada, yada yada stage,.

D

B

It's just like not super clear how that actually gets fed into prioritization, and so I would like to solve that in 2023 for otel, but yeah.

A

We're not yet organized.

B

Enough on the spec side like there's right now, there is nowhere to hand it to because we don't have some prioritized backlog. Yes,.

A

And actually yeah I put um under what we would like to see do next year streamline.

D

A

We're getting project feedback because, yes, yeah.

B

And yeah, and it's just like I- think it would if we can get this worked out.

B

So if we can get project management stood up better where we have something of like a public priority list uh that you know was linked to on our website and end users can see like I think it would be like a self-fulfilling system right, like people really want to understand that, and once they understand that that exists and we're saying like you can influence this list by responding to this form here or like whatever it is, we're putting out I.

B

Think that would motivate people to to to do it right if we're making it just extra clear that, like this list, is like driven by feedback that occurs here, and you know at the like project meetings uh when they occur um so I, think that would be good.

C

F

Hello yeah, sorry, just coming in I had a doctor's appointment that overlap with this meeting because they live in our usual meeting time. Oh.

B

That's fine, oh.

F

The usual time, but not our usual week, yeah.

B

A

um Yeah about how to get you know the feedback that we collect from these discussion groups and the end user interview, slash feedback sessions and how to um you know, get that into a prioritized list that we can publicize and users can see. You know how they can impact it by participating in you know, different things and um I think yeah. Ultimately, it'll help Drive implementation, adoption like Improvement on the project itself and.

F

Yeah I think getting that feedback is really useful and also I think making sure that we're like this is an overall project problem, but making sure that we're clear to people about what we're working on, because there's always questions about. Oh, is this part of the project really ready for me to use in production that kind of thing yeah and if we can be like? Oh well? Yes, this is an alpha, but we're hoping that this is going to come out in within the six months or within the year.

B

Yeah and I was a saying earlier on the call I'm working to to organize the spec maintainer Community to have more of a product management process of like this is like all the stuff, and this is the stuff we're currently at minimum being like this is the stuff we're currently focusing on this. Is this stuff we're planning on focusing on next? If.

D

B

At least have that public that will help people understand, and this is the list of possible things, maybe but at least what we currently are working on and what we plan on next and if we can have that that will really improve perceived.

B

um Speed and attention because it'll be the same amount of effort, but it will be more focused, so things will seem like they're moving faster and for the things that aren't moving. It's like super clear. Why? Because we are explicitly saying we're not working on that right now um and if we can then find a way to be bundling up feedback from our surveys, and you know, project meetings and things we Morgan.

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B

Of this right around getting priorities, but if we can have like the user surveys and other things basically figure out a way to have that be fed into the decision-making process for that respect, backlog. So, there's like a clear value contract we're giving to people around like. If you give us feedback here that feedback gets fed into this priorities lists over here and that priorities list is what we use to decide.

B

You know what we're working on next and that would really help people understand what's going on, but then, hopefully also then like encourage people to give us feedback, because it's like clear that, like spending the time doing, that has value to them, because it really will influence the Project's Direction.

B

F

Yeah I think that makes a ton of sense. um One thing that occurs to me as we're talking about the essay is, um you know a lot of projects. Wordpress is like the one that comes to mind, have release leads, and it's like a significant kind of honor to be the relief lead um in a lot of cases um and I.

F

Wonder obviously we're not releasing to like one centralized thing or doing additions, but I wonder if it's possible for people to take this on for three months and get like you know a view outside their particular working group and whatever, and have it be something that's couched that way like? Oh, this is of benefit to you and your company.

E

B

Yeah I'm not sure how that would would work for us, I mean there's like the the spec we try to. We try to release the spec once a month right, there's a new spec every month.

F

B

F

Maybe it's not the release, maybe it's communicating about this stuff and like keeping track of it and moving it. That's what I'm sorry I'm.

B

F

Say yeah we definitely need a relief lead in that exact role. Jeff commenting that.

B

Yeah, it's just like I. It's like the problem we have is like there's not one. We need like a lot of release leads like.

F

Right, we need one for every working group.

B

The Go Community really cares about like what the ghost stuff is doing and the Java Community cares about what the Java stuff is doing, um and then all of that is like driven in the background but like what the spec is doing um and yeah the the biggest piece of feedback I get from people is that we don't have.

B

We do not have a road map like uh we do to some degree have like if you're trying to use any particular thing like it will tell you whether that thing is Alpha, Beta or whatever, but we don't have like a road map for like what open Telemetry project as a whole is like in the short term. Like what features are we trying to add to the spec and in the long term like? Are we like adding profiling like what are we like? We don't we don't publish anything like that.

B

um We've tried to in the past with like, but it's like very sporadic, because we don't have a. We don't have like an actual process for deciding that. So it's anytime, we want to publish that.

B

It's like a lot of effort on, like my part or Josh serif, to like go around and like ask everybody stuff and like Morgan kind of, does the same thing at like the project meetings, but it it's it's like independent from like what's actually getting worked on in the spec, and if you go to the spec, it's like there is no process for what's getting worked on or oteps like we have a bunch of oteps that are sitting open in like various States and most of them and in just kind of like trailing interest, trailing off, but it's because we just don't have a way of like organizing ourselves.

B

So for me, that's like like the core issue. If we can actually get that process organized in the spec group of like what are we paying attention to it'll be easier to then build up some process for for influencing that right and like organizing its priorities right.

B

E

At any rate, that's what I'm.

B

Gonna, try to do, and you know or q1 of next year is like if we can at least get that built up, we can start publicizing it and then, if we can figure out a way to like get community feedback, you know published as well is a way of like defining like so we have like what we're working on, but then also like. These are the priorities of the that the Community has stated.

B

Community has stated like these are their priorities and we are like publishing that and that information is coming in from the user survey and like something that isn't just totally ad hoc, that that would be super beneficial to to everybody, because we do that work right now, but it's very ad hoc and like it doesn't end up making it all the way to like being published somewhere, predictable.

F

Right well, I think commute yeah communicating about. It is a problem that, like I, can help solve. A bunch of us were at the happy hour from different companies who do product marketing, and you know everybody's drinking.

F

It's easy and we said, oh, we should have a little hotel product, Marketing, Group and I think that if I call that promise in and bring together those five or six people like that's a thing that that group can do like, take the Raw output of your process and turn it into like a document or a blog post or something that we actually sort of communicate about. But we have to figure out how to like actually organize it. So it's happening um which is more of a project management problem. I guess.

B

Yeah, all of this stuff needs needs a project manager to kind of make it go. Yeah.

F

That as well is we kind of need someone to donate some time who actually has some ux experience, because different groups will ask us for feedback on highly specific things, and it's like well Rhys and I can ask people questions, but like kind of encourage somebody for certain things, who's much more experienced knows a lot more about like particularly like developer, ergonomics and stuff. That's a really specialized.

B

F

But I'm thinking, maybe the thing to do- is to put out a call for some of these specialized skills and share it with the vendors and say: hey: we need a contributor, we think it's this many hours a month. They need to attend this meeting. Who does project management? We need a contributor who we need to attend this meeting. We think it's this many hours a month in its user experience, because I think sometimes the vendors just send their developers because that's who they think is going to be able to work on it.

B

Yeah I think it would be on us to uh it is, in my experience, the more structure we create the easier it is to get resources from Member organizations. Yes, it's very difficult to say you should show up and like build to figure out what needs to get done.

B

um The thing that I think we can collect without specialized resources is just like what what are the priorities like that might be a good place to start right, like we have these end users, surveys that we do and Morgan has done this in the you know, project meetings that happen twice a year at kubecon, um but we haven't quite figured out where that information goes and if we could just organize that into like a better process or like a more quantifiable process.

B

So we can at least publish on like a quarterly basis like these are the priorities of the community like Community, gave us input through an online form, or you know, in a meeting and just buy the numbers here. You go. People wanted these things and the the work we would do would be to publish that thing and then, to kind of, like maybe group group, free form responses. You know so that we could get something a little quantifiable and that that would at least be a way for the community to see itself.

B

The other thing yes and I were we're talking about is for when we're the more like q, a things when we have these meetings, like the one we just had, if we can, as a group, take notes but like try to highlight as we're taking it. When someone like asks a question and if somebody there answers it um like, we don't necessarily have to know the details. We just have to know enough to like make sure when that question gets answered in the meetings.

B

That answer is like just recorded clearly enough and then and then publish that as like a blog post right.

D

So people don't have to.

B

Paw through all the meeting notes like like um after the meeting conveniently this meeting happens for at least the next three months after every one of the end user meetings. So.

E

It would be like the.

B

Yeah, the U.S one, so at least in those we could like try to to highlight the questions and answers and then right afterwards be like quickly move this into a markdown dock um and just like publish publish it on the blog.

B

As just like presuming the questions that people ask in those meetings are representative questions or Community is asking that would at least be like a these are ways we could um do that work of getting people's questions and answers out there without needing to necessarily be the experts on all of that, because if the question got answered um or even if the answer is like, if you care about this, you should like go into the otel, config Channel and like say hi, you know um or go go into the hotel, collector, Channel and say hi.

B

If this is something you care about, um uh I think that would be like something the community would really benefit from and give our blog a reason to exist.

F

I would totally agree with you I think that makes a lot of sense. Recording these on the blog, um Severin and Philip may have a perspective like they may be like. Oh, this needs to go in docs or whatever, but we can let them sort that out. Yeah.

B

C

I mean if there's like further.

B

Places where this needs to go that's great, but just I'm, just trying to think about like what is like one concrete step. We can do with the feedback we've already committed to collecting, just just to make it feel like it's. It's like we've done something useful with it.

B

We were convention earlier that it's like this is the problem with doing this kind of like user customer feedback.

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B

All this information- and then it's like it just like, goes into a black hole within.

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B

And, like nothing ever happens and.

F

Yeah, that's been a real like struggle for us between, like giving the maintainers an unwanted to-do list.

B

Exactly it's not that we get to be the bosses and demand everyone do X or Y, but if we can at least if we can at least do the work of like condensing it and Publishing it. That itself is is very useful and.

D

If we don't do that, work, then.

B

This goes nowhere, so that's at least like a very concrete first step. We can start taking without needing a lot of new resources.

A

So that being said, for the last few minutes, do you want to go over here? Let me put the.

B

Yeah, you want to show your notes. Oh.

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Yeah, if you have the.

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Can do and and I can try to do a better job of like coming to these to take notes. The other thing is um honeycomb pays for Otter, which does the auto captions um my account. The account that I do all of these meetings on is actually like separately paid from the honeycomb business account so that we didn't get the like.

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After call links to uh you know, you know how a lot of business accounts you get that after call screen, um but I should be able to connect it to the to the author that we're paying for if we think that, obviously transcripts is a little bit of a violation of the Chatham House Rules, but people also aren't identified in the other transcript unless they identify themselves, so that I think would help a lot with taking notes yeah um just because there is something even if something doesn't make sense. Yes,.

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I I, we decided the Chatham House rule um to remove it.

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um That's what I thought people were going towards, but I had to leave before the decision was made.

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Brought up a good point about you know they wouldn't be able to share like actual sensitive organization information. Oh Kitty, butt.

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Okay, well I'm, sorry, I.

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I've got the the main bullet points are the actual like question slash topics um I also included the link to the board yeah.

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Think yeah, the first thing I feel like going forward in the future, is like like what uh like what is the question that actually got asked here.

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So this is what I've noted down from what the person who Africa, who it was um the person that posted it said they were talking about custom, processor um and basically.

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Putting like a receiver in front of oh hold on, maybe I got it wrong.

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Was like they wanted to get metrics from the otlp receiver about um requests to the command volume and.

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This one was: how does the.

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Yeah I'm reading, through the notes and seeing where they make sense, but I wasn't around for like a number of these questions, because I came in late from other meetings. Oh.

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Yeah, like you, have three calls in this hour. Please balance.

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Yeah and I'm gonna have to hop off in a minute I'm gonna prepare for my next meeting, but I've put in a summary for some of these.

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um And we get metrics for those receiver, but spin volume.

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Yeah I try to Cobble together what I took from what you said, but I might be missing some details.

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Yeah and I think mostly what I'm seeing is like. We gave kind of gave some answers in the meetings but I'm just kind of writing trying to formulate some of these things into um into questions.

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That we could just go, ask the correct communities be like hey these questions came up. Can you verify what like right? The correct answer is to these questions because most of the time I was just going like well, it might be this, but um that's maybe like a follow-up we can do going forwards is like I, just in the meeting identify the questions being asked.

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Concrete answer: that's given make sure that's written down, if not make sure we just. We understand which working group to follow up with to to get an answer and.

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Then we can publish.

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Those things so I'll try to help follow up with this one, but I gotta run right now, um where is done to make.

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Okay, okay, so I suppose it might make sense to publish something after we've gotten some answers for some of these questions. Yeah yeah.

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I think next step is just pop into those channels like the correct channels and be like hey. So we got these questions from our end users. Can someone give us some answers here and even just publishing them in the channels itself? The questions Channel itself is like helpful on behalf of our end users, um yeah and then yeah, and then, if we can just publish that so I'll try to help follow up with this, but I gotta run.

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Okay, yeah see you later thank.

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