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A
Live
yep
we
are
live
excellent.
Well,
thank
you,
everybody!
So
much
for
joining
us
today.
You
we're.
We
are
the
openjs
foundation,
and
this
is
our
monthly
ama,
where
we
spotlight
all
the
cool
goings
on
within
the
foundation.
A
This
month
we
are
going
to
be
talking
about
opengls
world
and
our
speaker,
submission,
which
is
now
open
through
february
15th,
and
we
have
members
of
the
open,
js
world
program
committee,
who
will
be
talking
through
all
things
cfp.
A
B
Great
thank
you
rachel
and
thanks
everybody
for
joining
thanks,
jory
and
divya.
Why
don't
we
get
the
conversation
started
with
some
introductions.
B
How
about
you
jory?
Why
don't
you
start
not
only
introductions
but
also
tell
me
about
the
first
talk
that
you
gave
as
well.
C
Sure
yeah,
so
I'm
hunky,
dory,
jory
burson,
I'm
the
openjs
foundation,
community
manager
and
my
first
talk.
My
first
tech
talk
was
actually
at
teclahoma
in
like
2012
or
2013.
I
can't
remember
exactly
but
teclahoma
is
like
a
wonderful
local
community
back
in
oklahoma
city
and
and
they
do
an
event
called
thunderplanes
js
and
I
was
so
excited.
C
I
was
last
to
go
that
day.
I
was
so
nervous
and
I
ended
up
like
I
think
it
went
terribly
for
me
actually,
but
I
learned
a
lot
and
I
have
I've
learned
a
lot
since
then,
and
I'm
excited
to
share
about
that
today.
D
So
I'm
divya,
I
am
also
a
member
of
the
opengl
community
and
my
first
talk
was
actually
at
nyc.js.org.
It's
a
meetup
group.
You
know
pre-covet
that
would
meet
up
and
that's
when
view
had
just
come
out
vgs
and
I
had
been
using
it
from
the
early
days.
You
know
tuning
around
and
they
asked
me
to
give
a
talk
about
how
vue
is
different
than
react
and
angular.
D
You
know
projects
being
demoed
after
me
and
I
did
not
have
anything
to
demo.
I
just
stood
there
and
I
was
talking
for
40
minutes,
so
I
was
super
nervous,
but
I
was
like
okay.
At
least
I
did
it.
B
That's
fun
yeah
I
miss
I
miss
events
and
stuff.
I
can't
wait
to
get
past
covid,
so
I
am
josephi.
I
work
at
ibm
as
an
open
source
engineer
and
advocates.
I'm
the
chairperson
of
the
openjs
foundation's
cross
project
council
and
my
first
talk
was
at
cascadia
js
in
vancouver.
I
can't
remember.
Maybe
this
was
2014
2012
somewhere
in
there.
B
It
was
at
a
really
cool
theater
and
I
was
like
second
to-
and
I
you
know
was
before
tom
dale,
which
was
really
intimidating.
So
I
love
tom
and
he's
a
that's
where
I
met
him
and
anyway
it
was
intimidating.
The
talk
went
well,
I
can
see
actually
in
when
I
watch
the
video
I
can
see.
B
There
was
a
moment
where
I
paused
in
my
head
and
said
to
myself:
why
do
you
feel
like
you're
gonna,
throw
up
because
you're
doing
pretty
well
just
calm
down
and
keep
going,
and
I
did,
but
I
could
see
that
little
pause
in
in
the
video
when
I
watch
it
it
cracks
me
up,
but
yeah.
That
was
my
my
first
talk
technically
I
did
a
warm-up
talk
for
that
at
nyc.
B
What
were
we
called,
then
nyc,
html5
or
something
and
dominic
di
nicola
was
in
the
audience
and
he
kept
correcting
me
and
he'd
be
like
actually
in
the
spec.
It
says
this,
and
actually
we
just
updated
that
anyway,
it
was.
It
was
great
to
have
him
in
there.
He
was
fun
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
you
know.
The
peanut
gallery
always
added
some
color
to
the
talks,
which
was
fun
anyway.
So
those
are
our
first
talks.
I
actually
think
that
jory
wasn't
honest.
B
That
wasn't
her
first
talk.
It
was
her
first
tech
talk,
maybe
we'll
get
into
the
actual
first
talk
later.
So
where
should
we
start?
We,
maybe
let's
talk
about
what
is
open,
js
world
first,
it's
it's
a
an
event
that
has
sort
of
evolved
over
the
years.
B
This
will
be
the
second
year
as
the
open,
js
world
event
the
year
previous
to
that.
Well,
I
guess
a
couple
of
years
previous
to
that
was
the
node.js
node
plus
js,
interactive
events,
and
then
before
that
it
was
the
node
interactive
events,
so
this
event
has
been
going
on
for
many
years.
B
Vancouver
montreal
we
were
supposed
to
be
in
austin
last
year,
but
got
derailed
by
a
pandemic,
but
yeah
this
event's
been
going
on
for
a
long
time
and
it's
it's
one
of
the
flagship,
node
events
and
and
now
has
expanded
beyond
that.
So
it's
an
exciting
event.
I
don't
know
jory.
Do
you
have
anything
more
to
add
on
on
the
event
itself.
C
Well,
and
so
I
was
thinking
about
adding
we
all
just
shared
our
like,
you
know
little
stories
of
getting
started
and-
and
I
hope,
if
you're
watching
this
and
wondering
if
you
should
kind
of
get
in
into
the
world
of
delivering
tech
talks.
What
you'll
note
is
that,
despite
the
stress,
perhaps
embarrassment,
you
know
the
the
relative
success
or
failure
of
each
of
our
like
origin,
tech
stories
we
survived
and
we've
gone
on,
to
give
like,
I
think,
plenty
more
talks
since
then.
C
Sometimes
you
just
gotta
rip
that
band-aid,
and
so
I
hope
I
hope
that
you
have
you
know
out
there
have
your
first
tech
talk
story
to
share
with
us
soon.
C
So
that's
only
I
wanted
to
to
add
on
on
that
yeah
and
then
on
the
like
our
event,
you
know,
I
think
one
thing
that
makes
openjs
world
unique
in
the
world
of
like
open
source
javascript
conferences
is
that
for
a
while
there
was
a
bevy
of
various
like
focused
conferences,
like
you
know,
react
or
backbone
conf
we
had
backbone
comp
for
three
years.
C
There
was
three
years
in
a
row:
there
was
a
backbone
conference
and
and
and
openjs
world
doesn't
promote
specific
frameworks
or
projects
or
tools,
or
you
know
libraries
it's
a
place
for
like
all,
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
important
like
evolutions
of
the
conference
over
the
last
several
years
is
like
a
move
more
toward
being
about
the
ecosystem
generally
than
about
you
know
one
specific
project
over
another.
B
Yeah
good
point
and
I'll
I'll
add
too
that
traditionally,
we've
had
the
collaborator
summit
alongside
the
event-
and
I
think
you
know
we
still
need
to
figure
out
what
we're
doing
for
that
this
year,
but
that
has
taken
a
similar
trajectory
and
expansion.
You
know
it
used
to
be
very
node
focused
and
collaborators
would
get
together
and
discuss.
You
know
specific
stuff
to
node.js,
but
over
the
last
couple
of
years
that
has
also
expanded.
The
collaborator
summit
is
open
to
you,
know
all
the
projects
and
and
beyond.
C
It's
really
about
like
what
concerns
you
like.
You
are
a
javascript
developer
and
whether
you
happen
to
be
a
javascript
developer
for
node
or
any
other
openjs
foundation
project
or
any
project.
Any
javascript
project
generally
like
there
doesn't
even
have
to
be
a
foundation
project.
What
what
what's
on
your
mind
like?
What
problem
are
what
problems
are
you
having?
Because
this
is
a
group
of
people
who
care
to
have
that
conversation
with
you?
I
think
it
was
my
experience.
C
D
Yeah,
so
I
mean
I've,
given
I
think,
like
being
in
the
js
world,
we
have
so
many
frameworks
and
libraries
and
stuff,
and
I
think
that
openjs
is
world.
Actually,
you
know
adds
more
of
a
nicer
layer
because
it's
very
inclusive
it
gets
like.
You
know
you
have
some
people
that,
like
you
or
like
node
or
like
want
to
know
more
about
javascript
or
some
cool
library
or
something
you
know
it's.
D
I
feel
that,
instead
of
just
focusing
on
like
a
particular
thing
and
limiting
the
audience,
I
think
this
is
like
a
more
exclusive
like
open
to
everyone
sort
of
event
where
you
know,
people
that
are
amateur
to,
like
you
know,
professional,
like
super
js
developers,
I
can
say
you
know,
are,
can
join
in
and
you
know
learn
something
from
each
other.
I
think
it's
a
much
more
open
community
and
much
more
exclusive,
like
inclusiveness
is
there,
and
I
think
that's
why
I
think
open
chess
world
is
fantastic.
B
C
Yup
and
also
you
know,
obviously,
last
year
we
were
a
little
bit
disrupted
by
this
whole
pandemic,
and
you
know
that's
something
we
take
very
seriously.
Actually.
We
were
really
monitoring
that
quite
quite
closely.
Last
year,
we
made
the
call
to
make
it
an
online
event
this
year,
we've
done
so
preemptively
just
gone
ahead.
Even
you
know,
in
june
we
just
want
everybody
to
be
safe,
so
we're
making
that
a
virtual
event.
C
We're
also
doing
things
a
little
differently
where
we're
going
to
be
premiering
content
like
the
keynote
content
on
youtube
live,
so
people
can
come
together
and
watch
it
together
and
we'll
have
a
chat.
You
know
forum
for
for
that
and
then
our
breakout
sessions,
which
I'm
hoping
that
folks
watching
this
today
will
be
maybe
inspired
to
submit
a
conference.
Talk
proposal
for
you're
gonna
have
the
opportunity
to
record
those
and
submit
them
in
advance,
so
that
takes
away
a
little
of
the
pressure.
C
You
know
if
you're
like
worried
about
delivering
something
live,
you
know,
don't
be
because
you
don't
have
to
deliver
it
live
you
can.
You
can
record
this
in
advance
and
that
actually
opens
up
a
lot
of
creative
potential.
C
If
you're
curious,
like
joe,
like
didn't
you,
you
and
michael
did
a
whole
like
thing
last
year,
where
you
had
like
a
set
and
then
liz
lizzie,
prater
and
peter
hoddy
of
moddable.
They
were
talking
about
like
iot
stuff,
like
they
did.
They
edited
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff
and
got
really
creative
with
it.
You
can
do
that
in
this
case,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
like
about
a
virtual
conference
that
you
know.
B
Yeah
yeah
and
you
can
edit
you
know
if
you
mess
up,
you
can
retake
and
it's
it's
all
fine.
You
know
I
I'm
enjoying
doing
the
as
much
as
I
miss
live
events
I'm
enjoying
doing
this
recorded
content
cool.
So
we
are
a
part
of
the
openjs
world
program
committee.
B
So
you
know
the
the
the
three
of
us,
as
well
as
several
others,
get
together
on
a
weekly
basis
at
this
point
trying
to
be
prepared
for
the
june
date
and
talk
about
you
know
a
variety
of
things
related
to
the
events.
Obviously
you
know
format
and
everything
was
discussed,
we're
figuring
out
keynotes
and
talk
links
and
such.
But
you
know
we
also
have
representatives
from
across
the
project
spectrum
at
open
at
the
open.js
foundation.
B
So
folks
from
you
know,
node
and
and
what
are
some
of
the
other
projects
we
have
I'm
kind
of
blanking
now.
C
Appium
webpack
dojo,
there's
37.
Would
you
like
for
me
to
release
no
no.
B
I
just
I
just
met
in
the
regular
attendees,
but
yeah
we've
got
a
variety
of
folks
joining.
You
want
to
expand
on
what
what
we're
doing
in
the
program
committee,
either
jory
or
debia.
D
I
think
I
think,
in
the
part
of
the
program,
a
program
committee.
You
know
we
are
really
like
looking
at
to
provide
the
best
experience
possible
to
the
members
and
the
community
as
a
whole.
So
you
know
we
also
look
at
a
lot
of
like
issues
that
come
up
on.
You
know
that
have
been
given
to
us
or
posted
via
github
on
our
repos
and
things
like
that,
and
then
we
have
a
discussion
on
what
is
the
best
fit
and
it's
not
it's
just
not
like
people
and
part
of
the
community.
D
I'm
I'm
sure.
I
know
that
there
I
was
a
participant
for
many
months
before
I
got
to
join
in
and
I
definitely
chimed
in
in
a
lot
of
the
you
know,
talks
and
it's
open
to
join,
and
you
know
if
you're,
not
a
member,
you
can
always
come
in
and
you
know,
listen
to
the
talks
and
give
your
feedback.
And
if
you
have
any
questions
or
any
queries
of
sort,
those
can
be
answered,
and
I
think
I
think
that
we
try
to
do
the
best.
D
We
can
to
make
the
best
decisions
and
best
help
possible
to
the
community.
By
discussing
it
and
then
coming
up
with
the
solution
that
is
very
inclusive
and
taking
in
suggestions
from
everyone
and
actually
figuring
out,
or
we
also
like.
Let's
say
we
don't
come
up
with
the
solution,
we
listed
them
out
on
the
repo
and
let
us
take
a
vote,
you
know
or
let
it
sit
there
and
let's
see
what
the
community
feels
about
it
or
the
people
feel
about
it
and
then
give
us
some
feedback
and
suggestions.
C
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
would
add
to
divya's
response
is
that
you
know
you
don't
really.
We've
got
a
nice
group
of
folks,
many
of
whom
come
you
know
every
week,
but
not
everybody,
because
it's
it's
it's
a
time
commitment
and
that's
fine
right,
because
there's
it
takes
all
sorts
of
people
and
all
sorts
of
volunteers
to
put
on
an
event.
C
And
if
someone,
if,
if
you're,
like
interested
in
learning
how
to
put
on
a
tech
event,
this
is
a
great
group
to
come
follow
along
with,
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
first
off,
we've
got
the
the
linux
foundation's
events.
Team
is
always
there
sort
of,
in
the
background
providing
like
what
they've
learned
from
the
many
different
events
that
they
put
on
kind
of,
what's
possible
tools
that
we
may
not
have
heard
of
that
kind
of
stuff.
C
So
I
always
feel
like
I'm
learning
something,
even
though
I've
been
part
of
several
different
tech
events
in
the
past
and
then.
Secondly,
you
know
if,
even
if
your
time
commitment
is
only
just
a
few
hours,
then
there's
opportunities
like
getting
involved
with
the
cfp
review
process,
which
is
really
like.
What
kind
of
things
do
you
want
to
hear
about?
B
Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
good
segue
too
we
can.
We
can
start
to
talk
about
the
the
cfp
process.
B
I
believe
it
was
opened
up
in
what
mid
january
late
january
somewhere
in
there,
but
regardless
it's
open
now,
and
is
it
february
15th
that
the
cfp
closes
correct,
and
I
assume
that
if
you
what's
the
url
for
the
the
event,
is
it
openjsworld.com,
I'm
gonna.
Should
I
type
that
in.
B
Yeah
that
works
actually
yeah
openjsworld.com,
which
redirects
to
an
openjsf.org
page
and
from
there
you
can
submit
your
talk.
You
can
register
for
the
event
there.
We
have
a
few
keynote
speakers
already
announced,
which
I
guess
we
can
share
here.
Analytical
and
analytical
youtube
coding,
educator
coding
drag
queen
and
google
engineer
is
one
of
the
already
announced
keynote
speakers
kian,
the
ceo
of
near
form,
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
pronounce
his
last
name.
B
I
feel
bad
that
I
I
never
I
I
don't
know
what
I
know
how
to
say
his
first
name
and
lynn:
clark,
who's,
fantastic
senior,
principal
software
engineer
at
fastly.
B
C
Yeah
scott
will
be
doing
a
panel,
I'm
really
excited
about
scott's
panel.
I
think
the
the
primary
focus
of
that
is
going
to
be
really
geared
toward
folks
who
are
because
scott
mentors
a
lot
of
people
in
tech
and
a
lot
of
people
who
have
come
from
sort
of
the
like
non-traditional,
what
we
think
of
as
non-traditional
backgrounds
like
they
maybe
have
switched
careers.
You
know
they
were
a
lawyer.
C
They
were
some
something
else
and
then
they've
come
into
coding,
and
so
scott
does
a
lot
to
support
that
community
and
I
think
we've
got
some
co-panelists
with
scott
scott
will
be
moderating
who
work
and
support
specific
communities
like
veterans
in
tech
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I'm
really
excited
to
see,
see
and
hear
that
panel.
B
Yeah
yeah
me
too,
it
looks
like
we
have
a
good
question
from
youtube.
How
many
keynotes
do
we
expect
to
have
for
this
2021
event.
C
Great
question,
so
we
will
probably
have
nine
keynotes.
That
is
the
that's
the
plan.
Some
we
are
working
on
announcing
later,
just
because
it's
kind
of
nice
sometimes
to
have
some
surprises,
and
we
have
some
that
are
not
quite
finalized,
but
we
anticipate
to
be
finalized
soon.
That
we'll
announce.
C
Yep
the
the
talks
keynote
talks
are
typically
about
20
minutes.
We
may
have
some
messages
from
like
really
big
sponsors.
You
know
the
like
the
the
platinum
level
sponsors
for
the
event,
we'll
probably
get
just
a
few
minutes
to
to
share
some
remarks
and
then
scott's
panel.
We,
I
think,
we're
talking
about
giving
35
minutes
for
that,
but
that's
all
details
of
the
program
which
often
change
between
now
and
the
day
of
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
commit
to
and
saying
that.
C
That's
exactly
what
it's
going
to
be
the
other
thing
to
share
just
as
a
reminder,
since
it's
going
to
go
online,
these
will
all
be
things
that
you
can
watch
later.
You
would
love
for
you
to
watch
live.
We
really
want
you
to
watch
live
if
you
can,
but
if
something
comes
up
and
these
will
all
be
on
youtube
for
you
to
refer
back
to
so.
B
Yeah
yeah
watch
live
is,
is
encouraged
and
I'm
you
know
wondering
about
some
watch
parties.
We
should.
We
should
work,
yeah,
definitely
yeah
cool.
So
what
I
thought
I
had
a
question
there
for
a
minute
off
of
that.
But
now
I
can't
remember:
oh
I
was
gonna
mention
we
had
some
really
great
keynotes
last
year,
fantastic.
So
if
you're
curious,
you
know,
go
go
on
the
internet
and
look
that
up
spoke
with
someone
from
nasa
an
astronaut.
B
Really
great
lots
of
good
talks
from
last
year,
cool
so
yeah
we
had
started
this
conversation
on
the
cfp
process.
You
know
we
encourage
folks
to
submit
their
cfps.
We
haven't
started
looking
at
them
yet
because
that
will
happen
after
the
process
is
closed.
B
What
I
see
one
question
here,
can
I
submit
more
than
one
talk
and
the
answer
is
yes
right.
You
know
we
probably
would
not
choose
more
than
one
talk,
but
you're
happy
to
welcome
to
submit
more
than
one
any
guidance
on
that
story.
Did
you.
C
C
I
have
opinions
about
lots
of
things
then
then
great,
but
we'll
probably
just
take
one
of
your
talks
and
one
thing
that
I
saw
happen
a
couple
times
last
year
and
last
year's
cfp
was
people
would
say
something
like.
Oh
I've
submitted
a
second
talk,
and
you
know
I'd
really
rather
talk
about
this
one.
You
know
so
it's
like
okay,
you,
you
can
do
that
too,
if
you,
if
you
wish
no
no
penalty
or
judgment
for
that.
D
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
you
know
to
add
to
george's
point.
I
think
you
know
if
you
have
two
two
different
talks.
I
think
that's
great,
but
I
think
that
it's
more
about
also
like
how
how
much
different
they
are
like.
I,
I
don't.
I
feel
that
if
you
do
submit
another
talk,
don't
just
submit
something.
That's
like
an
additional
add-on,
or
you
know
just
a
little
extra
layer
and
with
the
other
talk
it
would
just
make
it
better.
So
just
be
mindful
of
that.
D
B
Yeah
good
point,
and
so
I
have
a
question
as
a
program
committee
person
member
can
I
submit
talks.
C
You
can
so
here's
here's
the
deal,
we're
recruiting
a
lot
of
people
from
the
community
to
review
cfps.
If
you
also
want
to
submit
a
talk,
you
are
perfectly
allowed
to
do
that.
We
have
some
functionality
in
our
review
tool
that
allows
you
to
decline
to
review
a
talk.
C
So
you
can
say
I'm
sorry,
that's
my
co-worker,
my
best
friend,
you
know
my
boss,
whatever,
so
I'm
not
gonna
review
that
because
there
may
be
a
conflict
of
interest
or
that's
my
talk,
there's
a
conflict
of
interest,
so
we
we
have
that
capacity
in
our
our
tooling.
Just
to
for
you
to
say
I
have
to
decline
to
review
this.
So
as
long
as
you're,
okay,
you
know
with
with
declining
yourself,
you
don't
get
to
vote
for
yourself.
C
It
is
not
that
is
something
that
you
know.
Frankly,
I'd
love
it
if
the
tool
were
capable
of
of
allowing
that
for
us,
but
the
way
the
it's.
If
you're
familiar
with
like
submittable
or
other
sorts
of
review
tools,
you
get
a
frame
that
says
you
know
here's
some
of
the
details
of
the
person's
general
application
like,
for
example,
it'll
say,
like
you
know,
it's
a
talk
submission
or
it's
a
workshop
submission.
C
You
know
that
kind
of
thing
and
then
on
the
next
screen
is
the
abstract
and
that
which
is
separate
from
the
first
screen,
which
has
their
name.
So
what
I
do
as
a
reviewer
is
just
jump
to
the
second
screen
and
then
I
go
back
and
you
know
if
I
need
to
fill
out
some
gap
in
my
understanding
of
what
this
submission
is
about.
I
might
go
to
that
first
screen,
but
but
you
can
see
you
can
see
who
submitted
as
a
as
a
reviewer.
So
it's
not
entirely
blind.
C
B
B
If
you
look
up
my
joe
underscore
sepi,
I
have
a
tweet
about
this
happening,
feel
free
to
respond
there
or
at
the
you
know,
tweet
at
the
open,
jsf
twitter
handle
cool.
So
another
thing
we
can
talk
about.
I-
and
I
think
we've
touched
on
this
but
session
formats
right,
it's
the
keynotes
will
be
live,
but
anything
beyond
that
will
be
released
day
of
netflix
style.
B
B
C
B
Cool
should
we
talk
about
any
of
like
our
our?
I
guess.
B
Diversity
goals,
maybe
is
the
is
the
term
I
would
use.
C
Sure
yeah,
so
you
know,
I
think
one
thing
you
know:
we've
we've
been
practicing
for
a
while
is
that
on
like
when
we
have
panel
talks
or
if
we're
going
to
have
talks
where
there
may
be
a
co-presenter,
we
want
to
see
some
diversity
there.
So
we
don't
have
like
you
know
all
male
panel
panelists
or
anything
like
that,
or
you
know
that
we
just
are
asking
the
question
of
like
we
want.
C
We
want
everybody
to
submit
talks,
regardless
of
who
you
are
where
you
are
et
cetera,
there's
no,
no,
no
pre-requirement
there.
We
also
want
to
ensure
that
the
people
who
are
presenting
the
talks
are,
you
know,
excited
to
present
that
material
and
are
qualified
and
are
like
the
right
people,
and
there
may
be
some
times
where
we
want
to
know
like
great.
This
is
a
this
is
important
question.
This
is
important
problem.
It's
an
important
project.
You
know.
Are
there
others
beyond,
like
perhaps
what
we
typically
see
white
men
in
tech?
C
B
Great
well
I'm
getting
something
from
our
producer.
Yep,
the
the
keynote
diversity
is
already
60
confirmed
to
date.
So
that's
that's
a
good
start!
Thank
you!
Rachel
cool,
yeah
and,
of
course,
that's
that's
something
that
we
have.
We
have
you
know
a
diverse
group
of
voices
in
the
program
committee
itself
and
and
definitely
are
working
to
have
that
reflected
in
the
event
overall.
B
So,
let's
get
into
maybe
some
like
do's
and
don'ts
of
submitting
a
talk,
yeah,
let's
just
let's
just
open
it
up
to
to
divya
and
jory
what
what
are
some
do's
and
don'ts
that
you
think
of
in
terms
of
talk,
submittals
and
abstracts.
D
So
actually,
one
of
one
of
the
my
favorite
things
that
comes
to
mind
is
that
don't
use
the
talk
should
be
like
it
should
be
wide
where
a
wide
audience
can
come
from
different.
Like
let's
say
people
are
from
different
backgrounds.
Different
skill
levels
can
come
and
really
enjoy
the
talk
and
get
a
good
gist
from
it,
rather
than
making
it
either
too
technical
or
too
basic
where
it's
like.
You
started
all
excited
and
people
are
getting
into
it,
but
then
you
never
get
that
spice
or
like
that
meat,
as
you
may.
D
B
Yeah,
that
was
that
was
one
of
the
first
things
I
learned
in
that
that
talk
that
I
had
mentioned
my
first
talk
at
the
beginning
of
this
ama
when
I
gave
the
dry
run
at
the
meetup
event.
B
When
I
wrote
the
talk,
I
kind
of
assumed
that
you
know
everybody
knew
a
lot
of
stuff
already
and
kind
of
aimed
for
more
technical
details
and
a
bunch
of
people
came
up
to
me
afterwards
and
said.
Oh,
that
was
interesting,
but
you
kind
of
lost
me
at
this
point,
and
so
that
was
helpful
for
me
to
go
to
the
larger
event.
You
know
I
kind
of
rewrote
some
of
the
talk
to
make
sure
that
I
did
try
to
reach
a
wider
variety
of
people.
B
Make
sure
that
I
explain
things
well
enough
for
people
new
to
the
concept,
but
had
enough.
You
know
depth
there
for
for
folks
who
are
a
little
more
experienced.
So
that's
definitely
something
to
keep
in
mind.
C
Yeah,
I
I
think
one
one
kind
of
way
that
I
think
about
it
is
like
it's
not
really
a
talk
about
you
showing
off
how
technically
smart
you
are
right
like
it's
it's
the
goal
is
to
provide
to
provide
a
talk
that
is
technical
in
nature,
but
tell
a
story
that
other
people
can
generally
follow,
and-
and
so
it's
not
like
we're,
not
you're,
not
there
to
prove
that
you
know
all
of
the
intricacies
of
like
you
know
the
jquery.
C
You
know
plug-in
ecosystem
or
something
very
obscure
like
that,
that
that
there's
some
value
or
some
story
that
you
have
to
share
as
a
result
of
something
that
you
learned
from
that
you
know
it's
different
than
like
then
showing
off
like
that
that
technical,
you
know
aptitude
and
yeah,
showing
how
smart
you
are.
Oh,
I
guess
kind
of
on
divya's.
C
Oh
yeah,
it's
just
you
know
the
w3c
does
a
apg
xyz
people
are
like
what
is
any
of
that
mean,
so
you
know
just
make
sure
you're
kind
of
watching
for
that
jargon
or
those
things
that
may
be
accidentally
confusing
to
people
and
and
also
for
like
inclusivity
and
in
like
your
language,
if
you're
telling
a
story
or
making
this
is
always
scary,
like
making
a
joke
in
a
talk,
you
know,
because
that's
either
gonna
go,
maybe
it'll
go
well.
D
C
D
B
D
I
I
was
gonna
say
that
you
know
also
do
make
sure
that
you're
here
to
like,
educate
and
inform
people
not
make
fun
of
like
something
or
you
know,
downplay
some
other
tech.
That's
out
there,
because
that
can
happen,
because
I
know
that
developers
being
a
developer
as
myself,
we
have
very
strong
points
or
opinions
on
tools
or
frameworks
and
libraries,
and
I
think
that
you
know
talks
are
not
for
renting
they're
more
for
like
educating
people
and
letting
them
know
like.
D
You
know
why
you,
oh,
why
you're
so
passionate
or
why
you're
so
like
into
this
framework
or
like
this
library
and
this
technology
and
promote
like
wellness.
I
think
that
you
can
keep
the
ranting
and
all
for
twitter,
and
you
know
other
things
so
just
be
very
clear
and
mindful
of
that,
because
not
everybody
is
going
to
know-
and
you
know
not,
everybody's
comfortable
with
that.
B
Yeah
yeah,
it's
a
good
point.
I
don't
think
you
should
really
be
bashing
any
technology
unless
it's
php,
but
you
know,
I
think
no,
I'm
just
kidding
okay
just
kidding.
That's
that's
a
really
good
point,
though
divya
thanks
for
bringing
that
up
what
other
do's
and
don'ts
do
we
have
for
talk
submissions.
C
I
think
definitely
kind
of
getting
back
to
another
related
point,
which
is
tell
a
story.
You
know
take
us,
you
know
if
you're,
if
you're
presenting
a
talk-
and
maybe
it's
maybe
it's
a
talk
where
you
do
have
what
you
might
consider
to
be
a
controversial
opinion
or
you
have
a
pers,
a
perspective
that
you
think
is
on
how
something
should
should
happen.
That's
not
shared.
Tell
us
the
story
of
how
you
got
to
that.
C
You
know
take
us
on
on
a
little
bit
of
that
journey
with
you,
so
that
even
those
who
may
not
have
the
like
technical
familiarity
with
that
technology
can
sort
of
follow
your
logic
or
follow.
Like
you
know
what
steps
you
took
to
sort
of
reach
those
conclusions
right,
and
I
think
that
is
always-
and
people
like
storytelling,
like
you
know,
start
with
like
I
was
start
with.
Whatever
started
you
down,
that
train
of
thought
and
people,
people
love
that
what
we
don't
love
is
to
maybe
start
before.
C
Let's
I
was
gonna
say
like
start
too
early
in
that
storytelling
process,
so
you
know
this.
This
sometimes
happens.
Is
people
will
start
like?
Well,
my
name
is
so,
and
so
and
you
know
I
got
started
in
1991
with
you
know
something,
and
unless
that
is
relevant
at
all
to
the
exact
problem
like
we
probably
don't
need
all
of
that
back
story.
C
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah.
No,
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
point
and
I
I
have
an
11
year
old.
You
know
who
we
obviously
in
the
pandemic
or
schooling
at
home,
and
I
talked
to
him
about,
like
you,
know,
essays
and
you
know,
beginning
middle
and
end.
You
know
set
set
your
story
up
kind
of
get
things
started
dive
into
your
journey
and
and
what's
going
on
there,
and
then
you
know
make
sure
that
you're
driving
towards
a
conclusion.
D
Yep
yeah,
I
I
also
wanted
to
add
saying
that
don't
be
too
light.
Also
on
the
details
like
if
you're
giving
a
talk
like
you
won't,
also
pace
yourself,
but
don't
be
just
like.
I
used
x,
y
and
z,
and
it
was
awesome
like
why
was
it
awesome
like
what
did
it
solve
like
what
got
you
so
excited
to
give
a
talk
on
it,
like
you
know,
be
be
such
that
you
are
pacing
yourself,
but
giving
out
certain
details
or
like
also
getting
the
audience.
Members
excited
along
with
you
and
really
telling
about
that
journey.
D
Just
don't,
like
you
know,
come
to
a
conclusion
and
like
leave
people
ahead
like
I'm
not
trying
to
say
that
just
don't
don't
give
too
much
or
too
little,
but
just
be
careful
about
how
much
you
give
out,
but
make
sure
that
it's
something
that
you
think
is
justifiable.
D
B
So
what
about
in
terms
of
like
actual
submissions,
you
know
and
thinking
about
your
title
and
your
abstract.
B
You
know
I
encourage
folks
to
be
descriptive
and
creative,
and
you
know
you're
you're
essentially
selling
your
talk
right.
You
want
it
to
be
accepted
and
so
you're
really
trying
to
put
your
best
foot
forward,
and
then
you
know
we
can
expand
upon
that.
But
I'll
also
add
sometimes
the
tool
offers
like
a
little
extra
one.
B
Like
you
know,
do
you
have
anything
else
you
want
to
share
with
us
and
I
always
try
to
make
something
like
personable
there
and
probably
silly,
but
like
try
to
bring
some
of
my
character
to
this,
the
submission.
So
that's
you
know
when
you
get
a
when
you're
looking
at
an
abstract
or
whatever
it's
just
some
text,
but
if
you
try
to
bring
yourself
to
that
and
add
some
of
your
character
into
it
in
any
way
that
you
can,
I
think
it's
it
come.
C
I
think
that's
a
like
a
way
that
you
kind
of
signal
to
the
reviewers
that
you
know
you're
going
to
have
some
storytelling
to
share
some
flair.
You
know
something
that
will
capture
people's
attention
and
cause
them
to
really
listen
to
not
just
the
words
that
you're
saying,
but
also
the
underlying
like
meaning,
and
that
and
that
there's
that
there
is
underlying
meaning
and
message
there.
C
So
so
I
think-
and
I
also
think
it's
also
it's
a
little
tricky,
sometimes
right,
where
you're
like
trying
to
sell
that
you
know
like
idea,
but
also
do
so
in
a
way
that
isn't
so
overtly
selling,
in
some
cases
a
product
or
selling
a
company
or
a
even
an
open,
even
a
specific,
open
source
project.
C
The
sales
pitching
is
something
we
want
to
keep
entirely
out
of
the
the
program,
and
this
isn't
one
long
commercial
for
different
different
projects
or
companies
or
products
out
there.
But
you
are
right,
like
you've
got
to
like
kind
of
sell
a
little
bit
like
white,
why
this
could
be
a
special,
a
special
thing.
C
C
But
you
know
perhaps
something.
D
Yeah,
I
also
would
say
that
you
know
the
submission
process.
Do
articulate
all
the
things
about
your
talk.
Just
don't
assume
that
the
reader
or
person
who's
reviewing
the
talk
is
going
to
understand
everything
because
they
are
it's
a
real
person
reading
and
they
might
not
have
all
the
technical
details
or
knowledge
that
you
want
to
present.
So
I
think,
like
you
know,
whatever
you
think,
is
actually
important.
D
Just
articulate
that
really
well
or
you
can
break
it
down
into
smaller
points,
but
do
make
it
sound
interesting
and
make
it
sound
so
that
you
know
it
gets
even
the
person
reviewing
and
you
know
into
it,
and
it's
like
okay.
You
know
what
I
think
this
might
benefit
as
a
talk,
and
I
think
that
is
also
another
key
point
to
keeping
yeah
yeah
good.
B
Point
yeah,
I
I
sometimes
actually
write.
I
don't
know
how
common
this
is,
but
I
write
a
talk,
title
and
abstract
first
and
I
try
to
figure
out
like
how
how
I
can
make
that
really
enticing
and
interesting
and
make
it
a
talk
that
like,
if
I
read
it,
I
would
want
to
go.
B
See
it
and
then
I
write
the
talk
to
like
kind
of
fit
that
you
know
that
set
up
yeah
and-
and
you
know
one
other
note
we
have
here
is
you
know,
take
advantage
of
your
character
limit.
Don't
don't
if
you
have
more
space
to
explain
what
you've
got
you
know
make
the
most
of
what
you've
got
there.
C
Yeah
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
found
last
year
in
my
in
participating
in
the
review
process-
was
that
there
were
a
lot
of
times
where
I
was
like.
Well
this
maybe
there's
something
interesting
here,
but
there
like.
I
wish
it
told
me
more.
I
would
and-
and
it
would
be
because
they
in
the
abstract
session
section,
I
think,
there's
something
like
four
or
six
hundred
like
there's
a
lot
of
character
limit
and
then
we'd
get
just
maybe
a
couple
of
sentences,
and
it
just
wasn't
enough
to
really
communicate
with
clarity.
C
B
And
then
I
think,
maybe
to
kind
of
wrap
up
this
conversation,
this
section
of
the
conversation
you
know
the
talk
doesn't
need
to
be
about
an
open,
js
project.
You
know
anything
that
is
bringing
you
know,
value
or
something
interesting
from
the
community.
Overall,
we're
interested
in.
B
C
Even
it
doesn't
even
have
to
be
specifically
like
about
a
project.
If
it's
you
know,
we
we
take
talks
that
are
sort
of
more
sometimes
focused
on
developer
culture,
or
you
know,
workspace
needs
like
mentorship.
Other
themes
that
are
relevant
to
you
know
your
interest
and
your
concerns
as
a
practitioner.
You
know,
then,
let's,
let's
talk
about
it,
talk
about
it
all.
B
Right,
yeah
yeah.
No,
I
totally
agree.
You
know,
I
know
what
the
right
word
for
it
is,
but
all
those
sort
of
soft
skills,
culture.
You
know
a
variety
of
different
areas
that
aren't
you
know
always
even
technical,
I
think,
can
be
very
interesting
talks,
especially.
C
If
there's
something
like
new
or
something
that
has
changed
so
you
know
for
a
while,
I
think
we
got
a
lot
of
talks
that
were,
like
you
know,
getting
started
in
open
source.
Well,
obviously,
we've
we've
care
about
that.
That's
that's
an
issue
and
a
concern
there's
also
a
lot
of
existing
material.
Now,
the
the
kind
of
the
open
source
js
ecosystem
has
matured
a
bit,
and
so
the
question
is
like
what
what
is
new?
C
That
may
not
be
discoverable
or
what's
a
new
idea
that
that
may
not
have
been
presented
yet
can
can
you
share
that
with
us?
Because,
that's
you
know,
that's
other.
Otherwise.
It
may
not
be
something
that.
B
Yeah
yeah,
one
of
my
favorite
talks,
was
from
that
cascadia
event
was
by
jen
turner
and
it
was
more
of
an
aspirational
talk,
but
it
was
like
it
was
a
really
really
great
talk.
So
yeah,
you
know
think
outside
the
box
you
know
bring
bring
something
interesting
to
the
table
and
then
you
know
first-time
presenters.
We
we
definitely
want
to
encourage
folks
to
you
know,
submit
talks.
B
If
it's
your
first
time,
if
you
want
any
sort
of
mentorship
around
talks,
I
mean
certainly
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me.
B
You
know,
I
think
you
could
probably
ping
the
open,
jsf,
github
sorry
twitter,
handle
and
see
if
anybody's
available
to
help.
I
know
many
of
us
would
be
happy
to
to
give
some
mentorship
to
first-time
presenters,
but
we
definitely
want
to
encourage
people
to
you
know,
don't
be
shy,
join
in
the
fun.
C
Well,
yeah,
not
only
that,
I
think
we
have
a
a
channel
on
our
openjs
foundation,
slack
workspace
for
openjs
world
and
for
mentorship
so
feel
free
to
to
pop
in
there
and
ask
you
know:
ask
the
community
for
a
review
or
or
tips
or
whatever,
there's
lots
of
helpful
people
there
and
there's
also
a
lot
of
great
resources
for
folks.
C
Over
the
years
a
number
of
blog
posts
have
been
written,
but
one
group
that
really
does
a
great
job
curating.
A
lot
of
helpful
content
is
the
global
diversity
cfp
day
group,
which
is
a
day
a
year.
They
they
used
to
get
everybody
together
in
person
this
year,
it's
virtual
and
it's
on
february,
20th
so
check
check
that
out.
They
have
like
kind
of
localized
chapters
that
can
do
some
mentorship
among
folks,
but
they've
got
videos
and
lots
of
blog
content
resources.
B
Yeah
good
point:
the
global
diversity
cfp
is
a
great
resource,
any
other
resources
that
people
that
come
to
mind
for
folks
for
looking
to
submit
a
talk.
C
I
think
that
there's
a
number
of
also
like
materials
on
the
on
our
linux,
on
the
linux
foundation
website
as
well,
so
the
linux
foundation
does
a
lot
of
material
for
just
like
general,
open
source
best
practices
trainings.
That
kind
of
stuff
and
they've
also
got
a
lot
of
stuff
on
their
blog
and
from
the
events
team
about
how
you
know
how
to
put
together
a
good
abstract
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
check
that
out
too.
D
Great
also,
I
think,
there's
a
great
post
by
scott
hanselman
and
he's
given
a
great
great
post.
I
think
it's
absolutely
worth
reading
it
on
how
to
give
your
first
talk,
and
I
think
you
can
learn
a
lot
from
it.
Even
if
you
have
given
talks-
and
you
want
to
refresher,
I
think
it's
a
great
place
to
go,
get
a
refresher.
B
Yeah
yeah
great,
and
I
would
encourage
folks
too,
to
you
know,
talk
to
their
co-workers,
their
community.
You
know
people
that
they're
engaged
with
and,
and
you
know,
bounce
ideas
off
of
them.
I
work
at
ibm,
so
it's
kind
of
a
big
company,
so
we've
got
a
slack
channel
for
everything,
but
we
have
one
called
presentation
help
and
basically
it's
a
great
group
of
people
that
want
to
help
other
folks.
You
know
give
talks,
but
also
we
raise
awareness
of
open
cfps
and
we
were
having
like
weekly
dry
runs.
B
If
you
want
to
give
a
talk
to
you
know
your
colleagues
and
then
have
them,
give
you
feedback.
So
that's
you
know
if
you
don't
have
that.
Maybe
consider,
starting
that
you
know
in
your
at
your
workplace
or.
C
We
we
did
that
at
boku,
which
was
where
I
worked
when
I
gave
my
first
tech
talk
and
that
I
remember
like
it
was
we
did
it
over
like
lunch,
you
know,
so
everybody
came
into
the
room
and
I
had
my
talk
and
I
gave
my
presentation
and
there
was
like
the
silence
afterwards
and
I
was
like.
Oh
no,
you
know
and
then
this
whole
guy.
I
won't
name
him
because,
like
he's
like
so
sweet,
he
was
like.
C
B
Yeah
yeah,
when
I,
when
I
worked
at
the
new
york
times,
I
started
a
weekly
javascript
internal
meetup,
like
a
brown
bag,
lunch
kind
of
thing
and
it
was
great,
and
it
was
also
another
great
avenue
for
people
to
try
out
their
talks
and
you
know
get
get
their
their
toes
wet
in
the
water
with
with
speaking.
B
So,
if
you
don't
have
that
available
to
you
see
if
there's
a
way
that
you
could
start
it.
Otherwise,
you
know
reach
out
to
us.
C
D
I
I
also,
I
also
have
a
great
suggestion
like
if
people
are,
you
know,
feel
afraid
to
talk
on
camera
or,
like
you
know,
even
for,
like
you
know,
the
dry
run.
Great
suggestion
would
be
record
it
and
send
it
to
us,
and
maybe
someone
takes
a
look
at
it
and
can
give
feedback,
and
I
think
that
way.
You're,
not
you
know,
you're,
not
too
nervous
you're.
Getting
that
anxiety
written
like
you
know,
for
giving
the
talk,
and
I
think
you
know
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
way
to.
C
Yeah
yeah,
hopefully
that
takes
a
lot
of
pressure
off
of
people
like
when
you
say:
okay.
Well,
I
can
record
it
and
I
can,
like
you
know,
if
you're
a
whiz
with
this
sort
of
thing
or
just
want
to
totally
nerd
out
in
a
perhaps
unhealthy
way,
go
edit.
The
heck
out
of
your
talk
and
premiere
and
add
some
like
motion,
graphics
and
stuff.
Like
that
like.
Why
not
you
can
do
anything.
C
And
that's
that's
a
that's
a
unique
opportunity
that
that
this
format,
I
think,
provides
so
give
it
a
shot.
Yeah.
B
I
agree
cool,
so
maybe
let's
touch
on
like
tracks.
Are
we
having
tracks
here
at
openjs
world.
C
So
you
know,
I
think,
beyond
tracks
which
may
kind
of
because
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
put
it
in
somebody's
head.
That
the
only
thing
that
we
really
want
to
talk
about
this
year
is
devops
or
something
specific
or
serverless
architecture.
Whatever
view,
that's
not
really
what
it's
about,
we
do
have
some
suggested
sort
of
areas
of
focus
that
you
could
say.
Oh
it's
kind
of
in
this
bucket.
C
If
you
want,
but
we
we
typically
let
the
community
tell
us
what
they
want
to
talk
about
and
sort
of
curate
from
what
we've
been
given
themes
that
that
seem
to
continue
to
pop
up
but
things
that,
like
make
a
good
talk,
you
know
rather
than
say
like
devops,
specifically
or
cyber
security
or
whatever
think
about
things
like
you
know
whether
you
have
a
case
study
of
how
you
implemented
something
or
how
something's
working
for
you
case.
Studies
are
great.
C
You
know
if
there's
like
process
improvements
that
you've
discovered
or
like
a
new
workflow
that
you
think
is
more
efficient
or
fits
teams
that
look
like
x,
like
that's
a
great
kind
of
kind
of
way.
I
love
theory-based
talks
and
sometimes
history
talks
because
I
am
a
nerd.
We
don't
often
do
a
ton
of
those
because
it's
not
a
historical
conference.
C
I
would
totally
go
to
a
javascript
historical
conference
but
yeah
anyway
yeah.
What
am
I
missing?
If
yeah?
I
think
I'm
missing
a
couple.
I
don't
know.
D
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
you
know
I
think
you
need
to
also
like
look
into
like
so
the
thing
with
the
tracks
is
that
you
know
attracts
kind
of
like
generalizes
it
or
like
puts
it
like
in
the
mindset
that,
oh,
you
think
I
chose
like
the
track
of
devops
or
like
cyber
security
or,
like
you
know,
javascript
quirkiness
and
things
like
that.
D
And
then
your
talk
is
just
focusing
on
that,
but
I
think,
instead
of
doing
that,
just
pick
a
theme
or
some
theory,
or
you
know,
as
you
mentioned
some
like
cool
thing.
That
really
really
like
you
feel,
like
you
know
what
the
community
or
the
people
benefit
from
this
or
they're
gonna,
really
dig
this
and
just
come
up
with
something
and
then
and
then
put
it
in
a
track.
D
I
think,
because
that
way
you
have
your
top
and
then
you're
able
to
evaluate
it
and
see
that
you
know
what
I
think
it
would
fit
devops
or
unfit
that
quirkiness
or
that
you
know
like
really
cool
new
track
called
javascript
world
or
you
know
getting
excited
about
and
and
just
like
or
as
you
know,
jory
mentioned,
javascript
history
and
media
and,
like
that
but
yeah.
So
I
really
think
that
just
more
about
it's
more
about
teams
and
then
I'll
be
putting
focus
on
the
talk.
That's
the
main
thing,
though,.
C
I
think
you
just
gave
me
an
idea
for
a
like
a
track
that
we
could
like
suggest
is
like
quirks
mode
javascript.
You
know
like
that
could
be
a
whole
and
yeah.
So
there's
there's
there's
a
lot
of
different
sort
of
ways
you
could
go
like
just
you
know.
Let
your
abstract
express
your
idea
as
opposed
to
letting
a
track
sort
of
confine
where
you
go.
We've
got
sort
of
a
general
program
for
things
that
don't
exactly
you
know
for
square
pegs
that
don't
exactly
fit
into
the
round
holes
that
we
pre-selected.
C
You
know
just
just
express
yourself
and
I
think
you'll
be
totes.
Fine,
yep.
B
Cool,
so
let's
maybe
just
quickly
touch
on
the
review
process
and
and
perhaps
even
use
that
as
a
call
to
action
as
well.
If
folks
want
to
get
involved
joy,
do
you
have
details
on
the
review
process.
C
Yeah,
so
we're
currently
recruiting
folks
for
participation
in
that
in
that
process
we
typically
we
try
and
get
like
20
to
30
different
developers
to
come,
give
us
about
a
few
hours
of
their
time
it's
last
year.
I
think
it
took
me
about
three
and
a
half
hours
to
review
just
over
200
something
talks,
and
then
we
will
open
that
process
to
the
reviewers
after
the
cfp
is
closed.
So
nobody
takes
a
look
at
those
until
they're.
All
the
way
in
your
application
is
done,
but
then
we
get
the
reviewers
together.
C
Everybody
reviews
all
the
talks
and
then
there's
a
scoring
system
that
is
not
disclosed.
So
I
don't
necessarily
know
how
joe
reviewed
the
same
talk
for
example,
and
then
once
everybody's
reviews
are
done,
it
takes
a
few
weeks
to
get
through
and
that
many
people
kind
of
doing
the
talks
can
take
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
we
try
and
get
that
done
fairly
quickly
within
about
two
or
three
weeks,
and
then
we
will
get
together.
Take
a
look
at
a
spreadsheet
that
the
lf
team
generates
for
us.
C
That
says
like
basically
here
here,
how
here's
how
it
went
and
then
we
can
kind
of
as
a
team
decide
because
there's
there's
always
some
where
people
are
like.
Oh,
this
could
absolutely
be
a
talk.
Absolutely
we
need
this
and
other
people
who
may
feel
differently.
C
So
we
talk
about
those
and
then
typically
we'll
have
that
announced.
Well,
I
actually
don't
know
exactly
what
day
we've
decided
to
announce
we're
gonna
try
to
have
these
all
announced.
It's
the
goal,
but
hopefully
fairly
quickly,
so
nobody's
left,
wondering
yeah.
B
Great
all
right,
so
you
know
folks
can
reach
out
to
us.
The
open
jsf
on
on
twitter
to
you
know
express
interest
in
getting
involved
there
and
generally
just
if
you
want
to
get
involved
with
the
work
that
we
do.
We
try
to
do
as
much
of
it
in
the
open,
as
we
can.
You
know
and
be
welcoming
and
keep
the
barrier
to
entry
quite
low.
So
if
you
go
to
openjsf.org
collaborate
on
that
page,
you'll
find
a
number
of
resources
on
how
to
get
involved.
B
You'll
find
a
link
to
join
our
slack.
Our
calendar
is
public.
It's
a
google
calendar,
so
you
can
add
it
to
your
calendar.
If
you
are
interested,
you
know
the
the
github
repo
oregon
repo
are
a
great
place
to
to
kind
of
lurk
or
figure
out
ways
you
can
get
involved.
We
primarily
work
in
the
cross
project.
B
Council,
repo,
so
definitely
check
that
out
the
the
cpc
meets
every
other
week
and
those
meetings
are
also
open,
but
you
know
generally
we'd
be
happy
to
have
folks
get
more
involved
and
try
to
be
welcoming
about
that.
So
so,
please,
you
know,
consider
it
anybody
else.
Any
comments
to
kind
of
wrap
this
up.
C
Comments,
I
just
would
say
to
those
who
may
be
on
the
fence-
or
maybe
thinking
like-
maybe
this
isn't
the
year
for
me
to
do
this
because
of
everything
hand
waves.
You
know,
I
would
encourage
you
to
reconsider
that
position.
C
I
think
that
giving
talks
is
one
of
those
things
that
can
really
unlock
a
lot
of
professional
growth
in
a
person
and
so
just
give
it
a
shot,
and
you
know
whether
it's
with
the
openjs
world
conference
or
with
some
other
event,
that's
happening
online
this
year,
you
know,
would
I
think
I
think
it's
important
to
share
now,
maybe
more
than
ever.
So
please,
please,
don't
be
a
stranger
and
sign
up
for
a
talk
or
sign
up
to
propose
a
talk
and
sign
up
for
the
conference.
We
would
love
to
see
you.
D
Yeah
I
in
the
closing
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
you
know
be
excited,
be
passionate
and
you
know
just
go
ahead
and
do
it
I
mean
you
know
it's
also
virtual.
So
there's
a
lot
of
like
advantages
to
be
virtual
done
in
person,
and
I
think
it
gives
you
more
time
to
prepare
and
record,
which
is
a
great
thing
which
I
wish
we
had
all
the
time.
But
so
I
think.
C
D
C
B
Yes,
aspirational
great
all
right.
Well,
I
think
we
are
out
of
time
over
time.
I
I
want
to
thank
jory
and
divya
for
participating
and
and
rachel
for
helping
us
make
this
happen
and
thanks
to
everyone
for
watching,
either
now
or
in
the
future.
I
hope
to
hear
from
you.
You
know,
in
the
variety
of
places
that
we
are
available
and
and
hope
to
see
you
around
soon.