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A
All
right,
I
think
we
are
live,
I'm
gonna
imagine
we
are
live.
Welcome
everyone
to
another
episode
of
the
openjs
foundation's
cross
project
council
meeting
today
is
the
10th
of
may.
A
I've
got
the
link
for
the
notes
here
for
the
recording
and
we
are
rocking
and
rolling
the
I
will
drop
the
minutes
in
the
chat
again
for
folks
looks
like
everybody's
been
good
about
adding
themselves.
So
thank
you
and
even
some
announcement
notes
are
developing
so
great.
Let's,
let's
do
that?
Let's
jump
into
announcements,
I
see
jorie's
back.
Are
you
back
dory.
B
Oh,
I
suppose,
we'll
see.
Rcn
internet
is
no
good
this
this
month,
so
announcements
we
have
just
a
few
short
weeks
remaining
before
openjs
world.
We
have
been
very
hard
at
work
with
our
programming
committee
to
finalize
and
polish
and
kind
of
move,
some
things
around
to
to
make
different
accommodations
for
speakers
and
that
sort.
B
If
you
would
like
to
get
involved,
we
would
of
course,
love
to
have
you
and
of
course,
if
you
are
a
project
representative
and
you'd
like
to
grab
some
time
in
our
community
theater
space,
we
cordially
invite
you
to
to
do
that.
There's
lots
of
room
and
we'd
love
to
have
you,
so
that's
a
that
is
one
of
the
the
the
probably
top
priorities
for
us
these
days.
I
think,
before
my
internet
completely
failed
on
me.
I
was
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
js
landi
awards.
B
We
haven't
quite
had
time
to
take
a
look
at
all
of
the
awesome
nominations
that
are
in
so
I'm
going
to
send
that
link
around
to
you
all
and
give
you
just
a
tiny
bit
more
time
to
nominate
awesome
people
and
for
the
pathfinder
awards
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
recognize
folks
and
thank
you
all
for
for
your
support
and
retweets
too
just
to
help
spread
the
word
there.
B
That
is,
that,
oh
and
then
I
also
want
to
share
that
the
the
loopback
is
having
their
monthly
maintainers
meeting
tomorrow.
That's
on
the
public
calendar
and
as
a
reminder,
if
your
project
has
public
meetings
that
would
like
to
put
on
the
openjs
calendar.
Just
let
us
know
we'd
be
happy
to
help
surface
that,
so
you
get
more
attention
to
your
project
meetings.
B
That
is
that's
all
that's
coming
to
mind
right
at
the
minute.
I
don't
think
I'm
missing
anything
but
I'll.
Let
robin
let
me
know
if
I
am.
A
We
are
a
little
less
than
a
month
out
from
the
event.
A
Exciting
great
well,
with
that
note.
A
Let's
get
into
the
agenda
if
someone
can
double
check
me
on
my
comment
here
in
the
announcements
I
think
there's,
maybe
something
in
there.
That's
potentially
still
private,
I'm
going
to
jump
into
the
first
agenda
item,
which
is
welcoming
voltric
master
as
a
c
to
the
cpc
as
a
regular
member
voltrex
is
not
here.
Let's
see,
oh
there's
a
note,
it's
it's
it's
their
honor
and
they're
happy
to
be
involved.
A
I
will
get
back
to
their
question.
It
actually
looks
like
maybe
jordan
already
responded.
So
that's
good.
Thank
you.
Jordan.
Maybe
we'll
see
voltrex
master
in
a
future
meeting,
but
you
know
there
are
plenty
of
ways
to
participate,
so
I'm
happy
that
they
are
involved
and
you
can
get
involved
too
just
get
involved
and
we'll
be
happy
to
have
you
cool.
So
I
will
close
this
issue
after
the
meeting
with
a
little
note
saying,
thanks
and
we'll
move
on
from
there.
A
The
next
agenda
item
is
issue
874.
This
is
cpc
board,
seat
term
limits.
Tierney
created
this
last
week.
Sorry
last
meeting
two
weeks
ago,
and
I
think
it
was
born
out
of
some
comments
on
the
primary
board
seat.
Election,
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
we
want
to
talk
about
with
regards
to
this
today
or
if
we
want
to
have
the
conversation
in
the
issue,
but
feel
free
to
to
speak
up
anyone
if,
if,
if
you'd
like
to
engage.
A
What
does
it's
just
for
the
sake
of
discussion?
What
does
the
term
limit
help
with
and
what
does
it
hurt
with
just
kind
of
thinking
out
loud
here.
D
So
so
the
idea
was
well,
so
I
think
the
way
this
started
is
at
some
point.
It
was
disgust.
Michael,
do
you
wanna
discuss
the
early
context
of
like
why
we
had
this
conversation?
I
I
don't
want
to
make
public
comments
about
things
and
I'm
not
sure.
E
I
said
last
year
that
that
you
know
next
year
I
wouldn't
run
again,
and
I
think
it
was
out
of
the
context
of
that
that
you
thought
well.
E
But
just
like
the
argument
would
be
is
that
you
want
to
have
you
know
a
different
people
get
involved
at
different
times
and
this
just
kind
of
descends
and
sets
a
known
end
date
versus
you
know
versus
it
just
having
happening
ad
hoc,
so
toby,
I
see
your
height
your
hand
up
right,
yeah
and
I
think
jordan
maybe
threw
his
up
first.
I
don't.
F
Oh,
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
I
think
term
limits
are
a
fine
mechanism
to
achieve
the
goal
of
like
ensuring
diversity
in
these
positions,
provided
that
there
is
a
healthy
pool
of
candidates.
E
F
A
D
Yeah
so
so,
like
my
reasoning,
was
actually
more
around
making
sure
that
we
didn't
elect
someone
that
did
a
year
and
then
re-elected
someone
else
in
place
of
that
person
just
out
of
lack
of
ability
to
bring
new
people
in
right
like
it.
D
It
is
not
good
for
the
cpc
for
that
person
to
be
replaced
too
quickly
unless
that
person
is
not
doing
their
job
right
and
I
think,
having
having,
as
was
mentioned
on
the
issue,
having
elections
on
a
regular
basis,
to
make
sure
that
we're
still
happy
with
that
person's
work
is
good.
But
I
think
you
know.
On
the
other
hand,
it's
not
good
for
the
cpc
not
to
have
contingency
on
the
board.
D
I
think
it's
it's
it's
worthwhile
for
the
community
and
the
cpc
to
be
represented
on
the
board,
but
people
that
know
what's
going
on
and
that
able
to
be
effective
as
board
members
and
just
not
be
there
to
learn
for
a
year
and
then
go
away.
So
that
was
like
my
biggest
concern.
Was
this
one
and
then
sort
of
like,
as
a
result
of
making
sure
that
we
had
people
that
stayed
on
for
a
long
enough
period
of
time
to
be
effective?
D
We
also
needed
sort
of
like
a
funnel
to
get
new
people
in
and
so
that
sort
of
implied
you
know,
sort
of
as
a
as
a
you
know,
as
an
effect
of
that
to
sort
of
like
term
limits.
But
for
me
what
was
like
what
I
wanted
was
really
make
sure
that
folks,
that
are
there
stay
on
long
enough
to
be
effective,
and
it
seems
like
this
mechanism
kind
of
helps
with
both
of
those.
E
I
yeah,
at
least
in
my
opinion.
We
still
want
the
election
every
year
because
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we
want
like
a
three-year
term,
where
that's
just
like
too
long.
I
think
every
year
there
should
be
an
election
because
you
know
most
most
likely.
I
think
what
toby
says
will
happen.
People
are
like
they
seem
to
be
doing
a
good
job,
they're
engaged
there's
there.
It
makes
sense
to
continue
versus
switching
every
single
time
right,
but
the
the
term
limit
is
more
like.
E
If
there's
multiple
candidates,
you
know
you
would
stay
on
for
a
reasonable
amount
of
time.
Like
three
years
is
a
pretty
long
time,
but
then
somebody
else
would
have
the
opportunity
right,
and
you
know
maybe,
by
having
that
fixed
end
date,
there'd
be
less.
You
know
less
inclination
to
switch
after
the
first
year.
If
you
know
what
I
mean
like,
I
don't
know
if
that
was
what
toby
was
was
getting
at.
D
D
I'm
I've
been
interested
about
having
a
board
position
for
a
long
time
and
it
felt
ridiculous
for
me
to
compete
against
sarah
that
had
just
started
being
on
the
board
it
felt
like
it
would
be
completely
counterproductive
to
do
that,
because
you
know
that
would
have
created
a
situation
where,
if
michael
was
going,
it
would
have
been
there
six
I
mean
it
was
just
ridiculous
right,
and
so
you
know
I
wanted
to
sort
of
like
solve
the
problem
of
not
wanting
to
compete
against
someone
that
it
wouldn't
make
sense
for
them
to
be
there
essentially
and
the
pieces
for
me,
for
that,
are
the
well.
D
A
Could
I
wonder
about
any
sort
of
like
shadowing
and
like
mentoring,
a
a
new
board
person,
so,
for
example,
if
there
was
a
three
year
term
limit
in
in
this
last
year,
could
someone
shadow
that
board
member
and
kind
of
be
brought
up
to
speed?
And
I
don't
know
it's
just
a
thought
that
crossed
my
mind
and
then
the
other
thing
is:
should
there
be
different?
A
You
know
requirements
and
such
for
the
different
board.
Seats,
too,
is
that
is
that
something
we
would
want
to
consider
robin.
G
When
I
look
at
this
meeting,
I
see
eight
potential
awesome
board
members.
I
don't
think
I
think
you
bring
your
whole
self
and
your
unique
experiences
to
the
board
seat.
I
don't
think
it's
like.
You
have
to
have
a
phd
in
corporate.
You
know
non-profit
governance,
so
I
don't
know
if
shadowing
really
makes
sense,
and
so
you
know
I
don't
know
if
we're
overthinking
it
a
little
bit
term
limits
are
interesting.
I
served
on
a
non-profit
board
for
many
years
and
we
did
it
was.
G
We
did
not
for
board
seats,
but
it
was
for
board
leadership.
We
did
two
years
for
board
leadership
and
you
would
be
you
know,
president-elect
president
and
then
post-president
so
you're
kind
of
still
have
that
continuity
a
little
bit
but
again,
I
think
there's
so
many
great
people
who
could
serve.
I
do
like
the
idea
I
do
think.
Having
folks
in
for
a
few,
you
know
two
or
three
years
is
great
or
even
longer.
If
no
one
else
is
interested,
but
again
lots
of
great
opportunities.
H
Really
yeah
just
wanted
to
check,
I
mean
I
think
effectively.
It
feels
a
bit
premature
to
be
talking
about
this.
Please
someone
correct
me
if
I'm
right,
but
my
recollection
is
that
in
the
grand
total
history
of
the
foundation
of
the
cpc
we
have
had,
I
think
three
people
apply
for
board
seat
positions
that
we've
had
open.
H
Figuring
out
term
limits
in
this
situation
would
not
would
not
serve
the
greater
good
of
what
we
want
to
do,
and
it
would
a
bit
needlessly
limit
the
options
we
have
for
selecting
people
for
the
board
because
we
honestly
have
not
had
even
off
of
robin,
as
you
mentioned,
the
eight
great
people
that
you
see
on
this.
This
call
only
a
couple
of
us
have
ever
applied
for
you
in
the
board
positions.
So
it's
a
bit.
A
Yeah
well
and
and
and
I'll
just
say,
really
quickly
and
then
let
toby
come
in
it
may
be,
and
this
may
be
like
what
toby
kind
of
described
that
other
people
haven't
stepped
up
because
they
thought
oh
well,
you
know
we'll
let
that
person
do
it
and
then
I'll,
maybe
do
it
next
time
or
sometime
in
the
future,
go
ahead
till
we.
D
Yeah,
no,
I
just
want
to
be
clear
here.
One
of
like
my
initial
suggestion
was,
I
mean
the
way
I
brought
this
up
was.
I
think
that
the
cpc
has
to
be
more
intentional
about
our
position
on
the
board.
That's
what
I
thought
was
important,
so
I
actually
don't
really.
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
elections
are
a
good
thing
right,
like
I,
you
know,
for
example,
right.
D
I
think
that
what
would
be
interesting
is
to
figure
out
the
strategy
for
the
cpc
to
be
effective,
board
members
and
represent
the
community
there.
That
was
my
intention
like
how
we
actually
do
that,
like
the
mechanics
of
it
like,
I
think
it's
like
it's
a
like
emily's
point
is
really
good
here
like
discussing
like
the
specifics
of
the
mechanics
of.
It
is
not
the
most
important
thing
like
for
me.
H
Yeah,
so
so
one
thing
on
that
top
that
comes
to
my
mind
is
that
we
do
have
like
a
couple
of
board
members
and
I
don't
recall
very
many,
any
situations
in
which
we,
as
the
cpc,
have
heard
from
our
own
board
members
about
you
know
what
they
think
of
of
what's
happening
at
the
board
level.
Maybe
hearing
back
more
and
and
having
a
more
active
conversation
within
the
cpc
might
help
us
form
stronger
opinions
about
what
our
activities
on
the
board
ought
to
be.
If
any.
A
Yeah,
that's
interesting
and
I
don't
think
you
know
that's
I
I
wonder
if
we
should
carve
out
time
in
a
cpc
meeting.
You
know
every
other
one
or
something
to
discuss
a
bit
more.
What's
going
on
at
the
board,
how
do
we
as
a
group,
feel
about
it?
What
can
we
you
know?
Are
there
ways
that
we
should
be
getting
involved,
etc?
A
I
So
I
agree,
I
think
that
I
think
that
sounds
like
a
great
idea.
One
thing
you
know,
I
always
even
wonder
if
it
would
be
interesting
for
the
cpc
to
see.
I
E
J
Yeah,
so
I
was
saying
that
it
would
be
really
cool
to
share
more
board
content
with
the
cpc,
and
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
for
the
cpc
in
general
to
understand
what's
happening
at
the
board
level,
so
people
can
even
make
the
decision
of
if
it's
interesting
to
them
to
run
for
the
board
so
definite
and
another
thing
that
is,
that
we
put
together
a
slides
for
the
cpc
every
every
board
meeting-
and
I
I
I
know
that.
Well,
I
speak
to
my
for
myself.
J
I
know
I
probably
miss
things,
so
I
even
wonder
if
it
could
be
if
those
could
be
shared
with
the
cpc
before
the
board
meeting.
So
we
can
make
sure
include
anything
that
we
think
are
important.
So
I
think
that
all
of
this
sounds
like
a
great
idea
and
happy
to
help
facilitate,
however,
possible
great.
E
Yeah,
I
think
the
the
the
main
question
I'd
have,
and
maybe
robin
can
help
is
like
how
much
from
the
presentation,
the
overall
presentation
that
goes
to
the
board
could
be
shared
yeah,
because
that's
where
I
think,
there's
always
the
uncertainty,
at
least
on
my
part
right
like
the
financials.
Can
we
share
those?
I
think
no,
but
I
could
be
like.
I
could
be
wrong
on
that
and
yeah.
G
There's
some
programs
that
have
heavy
financial
investments
and
decisions
and
endorsements
that
I
would
really
love
to
have
the
cpc
weigh
in
on
particularly
going
into
2023
and
that's
the
certificate,
training
and
certification
program
and
our
event.
Those
are
big
sort
of
budget
lifts.
I
think
the
training
and
certification
is,
you
know,
is
swimming
along
nicely
now,
but
you
know,
or
where
do
we
want
to
make
further
investments?
Those
are
all
important
things
that
you
all
should
be
informing
for
sure.
A
Yeah,
we
can
certainly
do
you
know
some
of
this
non-public.
You
know
on
a
private
session
with
just
cpc
members
or
something
and
whatever
comfortable.
A
E
So
if
we
can
share
those
plan
or
get
it,
you
know
get
input
that
influences
that
I
think
that
would
be.
That
would
be
the
way
to
go
right,
because
by
the
time
the
board
sees
a
lot
of
that.
Often
it's
the
yeah
okay,
you
know
this
is
this:
is
the
execution
that's
being
put
in
place
versus
you
know?
Here's
the
the
nitty
gritty.
G
I
don't
know
on
those
programs,
those
two
that
I
mentioned.
I
mean
the
training
and
certification
was
in
play
with
the
node
foundation
for
probably
three
years
before
I
joined
so,
but
the
events
are
sort
of
a
yearly
thing
and
I
do
know
when
we
signed
a
three-year
contract
back
in
2019.
G
There
was
a
discussion
over
several
months
from
the
board.
Location
is
very
important
and
the
budget,
of
course,
is
hugely
important.
So
those
are
not
quick.
Those
are
not
like
one
and
done
discussion,
votes
from
the
board
for
sure.
E
Yeah,
so
that
those
are
the
kind
of
ones
that
definitely
getting
like
getting
the
making
it
part
of
the
process
to
make
a
decision
to
get
input
from
the
cpc
would
be
good,
like
I
don't
think
it's
the
like.
I
don't
personally
think
it's
the
the
board
member
needs
to
be
advocating
like
when
it
gets
to
the
board
meeting
to
say,
wait
a
sec.
We
should
have
it
somewhere
else.
E
D
Yeah,
very
briefly,
I
mean
I
like
the
tone
of
this
conversation
when
and
where
this
is
going
like
much
better
than
doing
some
nitty-gritty
details
around
like
how
long
people
get
to
stay
on
on
the
board.
So
I
think
we
should
do
this
and
then
revisit
like
doing
nitty
gritty
stuff
like
in
a
year
or
like
in
six
months
or
like
once.
We
know
what
this
looks
like
frankly.
I
think
it's
a
much
better
way
of
solving
that
problem.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
it
up.
A
J
A
good
next
step
would
be
after
the
next
election.
The
two
cpc
board
members
could
get
together
and
kind
of
think
about
the
the
how
to
because
I
think,
as
cpc
representatives,
the
idea
is
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
cpc,
but
I
really
think
that
they're
making
sure
the
cpc
is
kind
of
involved
in
some
of
these
decisions,
for
as
much
as
we
can
exp
for
as
much
as
we
can
share
would
be
great.
A
D
Do
just
it
would
be
great
if
you
all
could
give
some.
You
know
like
a
feedback
of
what's
going
on
and
like
so
so
maybe
just
have
like
a
time,
maybe
book
it
add
to
you,
like
the
you
know,
the
the
the
regular
agenda,
a
block
of
time
like
we
have
for
deciding
what's
going
to
happen
to
talk
about
what's
going
on
like
do
something
like
that,
already
start
the
ball
rolling.
D
D
E
But
I
think
I
think,
in
my
mind,
like
the
real
shift,
where
you're
going
to
get
a
benefit
is
shifting
it
so
that
the
things
that
go
to
the
board
already
have
the
cpc
input
up
front
like
it's.
It's
it
shouldn't
by
the
time
that
it
gets
to
the
board
meeting.
The
only
question
should
be:
did
we
already
get
the
cpc
input
on
this
yep
right
and
yet.
A
E
Answer's,
no,
then,
then
the
board,
you
know
the
the
board
representatives
could
say:
well
wait
a
sec.
We
should
have
input
from
the
cpc
and
we've
agreed
that
we
will
right
like
and-
and
I
think
you
know
robin
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
like
I,
don't
you
wanna
it's
where
the
things
that
are
being
presented
there,
where
they
they
need
and
and
want
input,
because
the
board
isn't
like
managing
the
work
right
like
so
it's
it's.
G
We
do
have
a
plan,
we
have
a
plan
with
tactics,
you
know
goal
strategies,
tactics
and
metrics
that
we
work
against,
so
that
is
iterated
on
with
the
board
and
we're
going
on
sort
of
the
third
year
as
well.
So.
A
So
yeah
I'm
imagining
and
then
I'll.
Let
emily
and
jory
go
being
more
intentional
about
asking
about
the
board
before
we
start
the
meeting
and
board
updates
once
we
hit
streaming,
you
know
if,
if
we
decide
before
we
sit
streaming
that
there
is
board
stuff,
we
need
to
talk
about,
then
we
can
save
some
some
private
time,
but
I
guess
my
point
being
more
intentional
about
the
board
sort
of.
I
agree.
A
H
I
was
gonna
say
what
pretty
much
you
just
said.
The
way
I
would
phrase
it
is
that
we
explicitly
move
in
the
agenda.
The
board
meeting
updates
for
now
to
be
a
part
of
the
private
session
of
each
meeting
so
that
it
can
cover
possibly
more
ground
and
if
there's
news
from
the
board
that
ought
to
be
said
in
public,
that
kind
of
sounds
like
announcements
and
and
would
fit
in
there.
H
The
bigger
changes
that
michael
was
suggesting
sound,
an
awful
lot
like
the
sorts
of
changes
that
that
ought
to
get
further
discussed,
especially
once
the
new
the
elections
are
over.
For
for
the
positions.
E
I
I
guess,
I'm
really
trying
to
make
the
point
that
I
think
that
involved
like
pulling
the
cpc,
if
you're,
trying
to
push
all
the
interaction
as
a
proxy
through
the
directors.
You
know.
Basically,
the
director
hears
something
in
the
board
meeting
brings
that
back
to
the
to
the
cpc
and
then
says:
okay,
you
know
what
is
everybody's
opinions
and
then
pulls
up
and
then
goes
back
waits
to
the
next
board
meeting,
which
is
a
month
later
and
shares
that
that's
going
to
be
much
more
cumbersome.
E
So
if
we
take
a
concrete
example,
the
location
for
the
next
event
right,
it
shouldn't
be
that
you
know
there's
a
discussion
in
the
board
meeting
that
says
when's.
Where
should
we
have
the
next?
G
I
think
that
probably
discussion
would
probably
be
happening
in
our
program
committee
meeting
before
we
take
it
to
the
cpc
they've
been
involved
in
sort
of
every
step
of
the
way
so
and
I'm
happy
to
use
a
working
session
as
well
to
go
through
the
goals
and
metrics.
I
think
I've
shared
them
with
some
of
you
folks
in
the
past,
it's
really
yeah
open
book
there.
We
share
I've
shared
them
with
the
rest
of
the
executive
directors
at
the
lf
too.
So.
G
B
Yeah,
so
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
I
think
what
I'm,
what
I'm
really
hearing
is
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
that
you
know,
frankly,
this
this
process
of
information
management
from
the
cpc
to
the
the
board,
which
I
you
know
I
think
frankly,
the
intention
of
these
community
board
representative
seats
is
to
facilitate
and
make
sure
that
that
communication
process
is
happening.
B
It
may
very
well
be
that
that,
frankly,
that's
a
larger
lift
than
sometimes
we
have
time
for,
and
so
it's
it's
kind
of
easier
to
say.
Oh
well,
you
know
I
didn't
quite
double
check
what
I
could
or
couldn't
share
with
this
group
of
people
this
month.
So
you
know
no
real
updates
or
dang.
I
didn't
quite
have
the
time
I
needed
to
gather.
B
You
know
the
different
things
that
are
happening
on
the
cpc
level
for
the
board,
so
maybe
jory
or
brian
kind
of
from
time
to
time
fill
out
those
those
slides
for
the
cpc.
It
takes
time.
It's
hard
work,
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
something
you
can
just
sort
of
passively
do
in
like
in
in
a
few
minutes,
and
so
you
know
one
thing
that
I
want
to
acknowledge
is
you
know
how
how
much
time
that
does
take
from
like
folks,
like
michael
and
sarah
and
thinking?
B
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
But
it's
you
know
it's
also
clear
that
perhaps
it's
not
always
enough
time
to
get
everything
and
communicated
out
and-
and
that
is
very
important
to
sort
of
like
building
that
up,
because
to
robin's
point
nothing
that
we
do
is
new
or
surprising
or
anything
like
that.
Like
we
start
having
these
conversations
about,
look
where
should
we
have
the
next
event?
B
You
know
with
the
folks
in
our
programming
committee
who
have
demonstrated
that
they
care
about
getting
involved
with
events,
so
it
makes
sense
that
those
conversations
start
with
them
and
then
they
flow
out
from
from
there,
and
we
try
very
hard
to
make
sure
that,
like
when
things
do
get
rolled
up
into
a
strategic
package
like
the
standards
working
group
did
with
their
sort
of
strategic
ideas
for
how
they
would
engage
in
standards
community
that
that
does
get
shared
with
the
cpc
and
with
the
board
in
a
way
that
again
solicits
feedback
from
ideas
or
projects
or
programs.
B
That
start
with
a
smaller
group,
because
that's
that's
how
those
ideas
grow
into
something
that
we
can
execute
on
so
yeah,
so
that
that
I
think
that's
a
long-winded
way
of
saying
you
know.
Perhaps
what
we
need
to
do
is
just
have
a
bit
more
time
and
a
bit
more
grace
extended
to
the
folks
who
are
attempting
to
to
facilitate
these
conversations
and
just
do
what
we
can
to
support.
In
particular.
I'm
thinking
here
right
now,
michael
and
sarah,
to
help
make
sure
they
you
know
are
feel
comfortable.
B
Sharing
things
back
to
the
cpc
and
feel
comfortable
asking
for
time
to
have
those
private
conversations
if
there's
something
that
they
want
to
get
quieter
feedback
on,
and
things
like
that,
but
that's
all
I
wanted
to
add.
Thank
you.
E
E
Then
that
would
that
that
might
tag
things
which
are
like
yeah,
okay,
we
think
we
should
be
shared.
I
think
it's
back
to
you
know
what
robin
says.
A
lot
of
things
are
not
a
surprise
right.
It's
not
like
there's
all
sorts
of
you
know.
If
we
went
back
and
looked
at
the
agendas,
the
agendas
looked
pretty
similar.
E
You
know,
members
that
that
robin's
talking
to
in
terms
of
like
who,
who
you're
working
with
to
try
and
get
to
join
the
foundation
right,
yeah
and
I'm
trying
to
think
like-
is
that
something
we
could
share
should
share
like
when
they're
in
advance
or
you
know,
which
is
which
of
those
things
on
the
last
agenda.
So
maybe
you
know,
maybe
we
could
sit
down
with
robin
and
look
at
the
last
agenda
and
say
what
was
here
that
you
know
we
should
have
shared.
A
H
Yeah,
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
is
a
question
of
of
it
being
slightly
challenging
currently
within
the
board,
to
define
whether
something
can
be
said
with
the
cpc
or
not.
Could
it
be
possible
to
just
as
a
practice
of
of
defaulting
to
assuming
that
anything
handled
at
the
board
can
be
shared
with
the
cpc
in
private
and
things
that
are
not
of
that
category
to
need
to
be
flagged
explicitly
so
sort
of
default.
The
other
way.
E
Yeah,
I
guess
that
would
be
a
question
for
the
board
right,
because
currently
I
think
it's
the
opposite,
everything's
assumed
to
be
private
unless
we
specifically
say
like
I,
I
know,
there's
been
many,
there's
been
a
number
of
times
where
I'm
like.
Is
it
okay?
If
I
share
this
with
the
cpc
to
get
more
input
or
share
it
with
the
tsc
or
whatever,
and
certainly
I
feel
like,
we
need
to
ask
that,
like
anything
discussed
among
the
board,
members
is
considered
to
be
among
that
group
unless
otherwise
agreed.
I.
A
I
wonder
I'll
say
real
quickly
before
letting
sarah
speak
is
you
know,
should
there
be,
I
don't
wanna
say
rules,
but,
like
we
don't
talk
about
this,
we
do
you
know,
or
at
least
specifically
things
that
shouldn't
be
talked
about
privately
with
the
cpc.
What
what's
the
criteria
for
something
being
private
to
the
cpc
even
might
be
interesting
to
understand.
Sarah.
J
Yeah,
I
do
so.
I
wonder
if
an
easy
way
to
do
this
would
be
to
start
with
the
public
deck
and
then
just
confer
around.
If
there's
anything,
we
think
from
the
private
session
that
is
important
to
share
with
the
cpc
or
you
know
like,
because
I
think
even
the
public,
deck
and
info
is
beneficial
to
just
the
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
thinking
about
and
learning
about,
so
that
might
make
it
easier
for
the
folks
involved.
J
E
E
A
Great,
I
think
this
was
a
good
conversation.
I
was
mindful
of
the
agenda
and
wanted
to
just
let
it
play
out.
So
I
appreciate
everybody's
thoughtful
comments
seems
like
we've
got
some
good
ideas
and
I
will
like
I
said
before
we'll
be
more
intentional
about
bringing
up
the
board,
updates
and
whatnot.
A
A
With
that
in
mind,
the
next
one
is
issue
859,
the
the
the
board
seat
election,
which
I
think
we
can
close
now,
because
you
know
the
election
has
happened,
and
I
think
that
the
comments
that
were
here
were
captured
in
toby's
other
issue.
A
Great
okay,
the
this
one
being
pull
request:
851
update,
contributor
covenant
code
of
conduct
to
v2.1-
I
don't
know
if
there's,
if
we're
going
to
get
into
this
at
all
today,
anybody.
G
We
were,
I
think,
that
the
last
cpc
we
said
we
were
going
to
have
a
working
session
on
it
and
then
last
week
we
were
all
gone,
so
I
think
the
action
is
to
have
a
working
session
on
it.
A
B
I
will
double
check
right
now,
if
there's
anything
next
week
next
week
it
is,
may
the
17th,
so
we
do
not
have
anything
for
the
17th,
so
we
could
do
that
for
our
next
working
meeting.
A
My
only
comment
there
is,
I
think
next
week,
is
that
kubecon
eu,
and
and
will
that
prevent
anyone
important
to
the
conversation
from
attending.
G
A
I
think
it
wouldn't
be
bad
if,
if
we
had
a
conversation
somewhere
in
slack
about
you
know,
who's
been
engaged
and
who
we
should
reach
out
to
and
make
sure
they
join
and
also
maybe
even
something
of
an
agenda.
You
know
what
what
are
the,
what
what
what's
the
order
of
things
we
want
to
tackle,
because
I
know
there's
this
issue,
I
think
there's
another
issue
or
pull
request
open
somewhat
related.
A
I
think
we
should
just
be
very
intentional
about
making
the
most
of
that
session.
The
working
session
is
always
the
same
time
as
the
previous
session,
so
next
week's
working
session
will
be
at
this
time
next
week,
cool
so
maybe
robin
jory.
Maybe
we
can
just
have
a
slack
chat
or
something
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
wants
to
be
involved
in
terms
of
planning
for
the
working
session,
but
that
would
probably
be
helpful
sure
great,
thank
you
and
then
just
kind
of
kicking
off
these.
A
These
last
three,
I'm
gonna
get
not
keep
saying
this,
but
open
up
that
collab
space
soon
on
security,
it's
really
important,
but
I
just
have
been
swamped
in
a
variety
of
ways.
So
I
will
commit
to
getting
that
open
before
the
next
session.
Next
cpc
meeting
we're
skipping
the
license
check
this
week
that
issue
and
no
update
on
the
coc
violation,
which
is
the
other
clarify
requirements
around
coc
violation.
A
That's
the
other
issue
I
was
thinking
of
so
we
will
maybe
pull
some
of
those
things
into
the
next
working
session
and
go
from
there.
A
H
One
quick
question:
I
forget:
the
timings
are
asking
now:
when
do
we
need
to
start
the
the
election
for
the
non-impact
voting
members.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question
and
also
reminds
me
of
a
question
that
I
had
forgotten
about,
which
is
the
cpc
chairperson
election,
which
we
also
need
to
do
I'm
trying.
Where
am
I
going,
I'm
looking
for
the
important
dates
and
reminders,
so
I
can
get
these
specifics
dates
and
reminders
file.
I
think.
A
So
mice,
the
chair
election,
the
cpc
chair
term
ends
april
30th,
oh
yeah,
and
and
then
the
ending
july
31st
is
the
director
two
cpc
impact
voting
member
selection
and
cpc
non-impact
voting
member
election.
A
All
three
of
those
things
happen
at
the
end
of
july,
so
we
should
probably
start
at
the
beginning
of
july,
I
guess
or
late
june,
and
we
had
planned
it
that
way,
so
that
it
would
be
that
we
could
recruit
and
kind
of
promote
this
at
the
event
and
then
have
those
three
elections
and
selections
happen
after
openjs
world
you
catch
that
emily
yep
got
it
thanks.
Yeah,
I
think.
A
Last
time
we
talked
about
this
jory
and
I
know
you,
you
probably
have
a
lot
on
your
plates,
but
I
think
one
of
us
should
open
up
a
chairperson
election.
B
Yeah
I
for
some
reason-
and
I
may
have
just
misremembered-
that
we
did
a
call
and
you
were
unopposed,
and
so
that
was
that,
but
maybe
that
was
maybe
that
was
last
year.
A
Or
it
just
happened
with
sarah,
but
yeah
I
could
have.
I,
and
my
brain
is
so
much
right
now
from
everything
going
on
it
could
have
happened.
It.
B
Yeah
happy
to
open
up
another,
you
know
call
for
nominations
for
cpc
chair
as
an
issue
and
as
we've
done
in
the
past,
I
just
I
guess,
I'm
yes
time
flies.
Time
does
indeed
fly.
A
Time
does
indeed
fly.
I'm
gonna
share
this
issue
here
I'll
put
in
the
zoom
chat,
but
this
is
the
issue
that
I
had
for
adding
missing
dates,
and
I
only
share
it
because
there's
a
link,
I
guess
I
should
just
share
directly
to
the
link
of
the
last
election
for
the
chairperson.
If
it's
at
all
helpful,
I
can
share
it
via
slack
jory.
If
that's
helpful
and
it
looks
like
I
opened
it
last
time.
So
whatever
is
fine.
A
Okay,
great
cool
anything
else
before
we
say
our
goodbyes,
if
not
thanks
everybody
for
watching
the
live
stream
and
thanks
everybody
for
joining
appreciate
all
of
you
being
a
part
of
this,
and
I
will
see
you
around
the
water
cooler
awesome
thanks.
Everyone.