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A
And
we
are
live
on
youtube
howdy.
Everyone
welcome
to
our
tuesday
march
16
2021
meeting
at
the
cross
project
council
expecting
a
lighter
group
today,
no
big
deal,
but
thanks
for
joining
us
and
if
and
to
those
who
are
maybe
watching
on
the
on
the
live
stream,
we
start
with
announcements.
A
Okay
cool:
I
will
do
that
today.
We
have
the
marketing
committee,
if
anybody's
interested
in
attending
that
that's
our
monthly
meeting
and
it's
going
to
be
at
3
pm
eastern.
If
anybody
would
like
to
to
join,
I
see
a
hand
raised
tierney.
B
Also,
if
you're
on
the
marketing
committee
email
list
check
your
spam,
because
I
realized
it's
been
going
to
my
spam
for
a
very
long
time.
Apparently.
A
The
marketing
committee
meetings
are
also
on
our
our
calendar,
so
if
you're
subscribed
to
the
calendar,
you
should
perhaps
get
them
and
that
way,
but
good
call
check,
always
check
your
spam
periodically
cool
related
to
marketing.
Of
course,
we
have
lots
of
ask
me
anything
opportunities.
I
think
we're
going
to
rename
what
we
have
to
what
that
is,
but
you
know
once
a
month
we've
been
getting
these
great
conversations
with
with
folks
and
projects.
A
Last
month
we
did
the
earlier
this
month
we
did
the
js
trends
panel,
if
you're
interested
in
doing
an
ama
style
thing
with
us
in
the
coming
months,
reach
out
to
rachel,
she
would
definitely
love
to
have
you
on
we're.
Also
looking
for
awesome
folks
from
our
communities
to
feature
in
our
dev
profiles,
which
have
been
extremely
well
received.
People
are
liking
those.
So
if
you
have
somebody
that
you
want
to
recognize
in
your
community,
it's
an
awesome
way
to
to
to
do
that,
reach
out
to
rachel.
A
If
you
have
a
suggestion
and
then,
of
course,
we're
always
hoping
to
do
more
to
promote
and
announce
and
lift
up
things
that
are
happening
in
our
projects.
So
if
you
have
news
releases,
you
know
just
something
you
want
to
celebrate.
In
the
pr
marketing
channel
and
twitter,
we
can
coordinate
on
retweeting
or
tweeting
something
special,
making
blog
posts
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
just
a
generic,
that's
always
open
to
you.
C
One
more
thing:
jory
yep,
so
the
the
node.js
project
has
an
initiative
right
now.
It's
called
next
10.
and
it's
sort
of
planning
for
what
the
next
10
years
of
node.js
is
going
to
be,
and
they
are
launching
a
very
short
constituency
survey
today
so
be
on
the
lookout
for
that
there
will
be
a
blog
post
going
live
here
shortly.
C
A
Great
very
cool,
and
then
do
we
have,
I
think,
also
related
to
that
there's
a
channel
in
slack
too
about
next.
Ten
is
that
right,
michael,
you
are
muted
friend.
A
A
Okay,
I
thought
I'd
seen.
I
was
doing
a
slack
channel
review.
I
thought
I'd
already
seen
a,
but
I
must
have
been
mistaken.
A
All
right
so,
okay,
moving
on
other
announcements,
the
programming
committee,
the
open
js
world
programming
committee,
which
is
usually
on
thursdays,
we're
making
a
slight
adjustment
to
our
meeting
this
week
to
accommodate
the
node
tsc
meeting.
A
There
are
several
of
us
who
are
going
to
be
attending
that
to
talk
about
some
of
our
standards,
working
group,
stuff
and
announcements
so
and
b,
if
you're
on
the
programming
committee
or
looking
to
get
involved
in
the
programming
committee
just
be
on
the
lookout
and
for
that
updated
time,
it'll
probably
be
an
hour
earlier,
speaking
of
which
open
js
world
now
right
now
is
a
great
time
to
register
for
the
conference.
A
As
you've
already
heard,
we
have
adjusted
the
date
due
to
a
conflict
with
another
community
event,
it's
june
2nd
and
we
would
love
to
have
you
know
everybody
here
there.
Obviously,
so
you
can
do
that.
Registration
is
open
today,
we're
hoping
to
get
the
announcements,
or
at
least
the
first
sort
of
round
of
breakout
speakers
announced
by
the
end
of
the
month
and
yeah.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
y'all
don't
miss
it
so
head
on
over
to
the
website
and
register
and
then
last
but
not
least,
next
tuesday.
A
I'm
telling
you
this
today
because
we
won't
meet
between
now
and
then
is
the
standards
working
group
meeting
and
that's
at
tuesday,
the
23rd
at
2
pm
eastern,
and
so
we
hope
to
see
you
there
did.
I
miss
anything.
Is
there
another
announcement?
Did
I
inspire
you
with
these
announcements
with
your
own
announcements.
D
A
He's
thinking
no
great
moving
us
down,
we've
got
a
couple
of
quick
things
from
the
standards
repository
that
I
forgot
to
tag.
One
is
just
an
issue
on
number
128.
There
is
nominations
for
our
w3c
ac
rep.
A
The
committee
is
going
to-
or
I
should
say,
brian
cardell
is
stepping
down,
and
so
those
are
open
and
then
I
also
want
to
say
thanks
shout
out
thanks
to
miles
for
casting
our
affiliate
ballot
for
osi
elections
which
closed
today,
and
if
you
want
to
stay
more
abreast
of
these
issues
head
on
over
to
the
hash
standards
channel
in
slack
and
you'll
get
notified
when
these
things
are
open
there,
we
go
moving
on
down
to
the
summit
repository,
which
we've
got
a
question
on
issue
306,
which
michael
has
raised
this
one.
A
I've
been
hearing
too.
Oh,
let
me
promote
to
me
here:
are
we
going
to
do
a
collaborator
summit
this
year?
D
Yeah
I
mean
basically,
it
was
it
was
like.
Are
we
going
to
do
one,
and
then
we
actually
got
a
little
bit
into
a
discussion
of
like,
and
does
it
even
make
sense
to
you
know?
In
the
past
we
co-located
with
things
like
open
js
world,
but
we
got
into
the
discussion
of
like.
Does
it
actually
help
or
hurt
to
co-locate
so
sort
of
those
two
questions?
One
are
we
going
to
do
one
and
two?
D
A
Yeah
online
from
the
get-go,
and
we
did
get
some
additional
guidance
just
actually
yesterday
from
the
lf
on
when
they're
thinking
that
organizationally,
it
will
be
okay
to
really
plan
in
person,
and
it's
it's
they're,
not
really
being
super
firm
about
that,
but
early
as
possible
is
late
fall.
A
So
one
of
the
things
that
we're
considering
is
whether
we
could
possibly
do
a
collab
summit
and
type
event
partnered
with
and
one
of
the
other
events
like
open
source
summit,
north
america,
for
example,
if
that,
actually,
if
that,
if
that
happens
in
person,
what
do
you
I
mean?
What
would
what
would
our
community
prefer
to
see?
Something?
That's
more!
A
E
So
the
reason
they
asked
about
this
is,
but
I
think
many
people
have
different
experiences
about
this.
From
my
perspective,
on
the
way
it
happened
last
year,
online,
the
column
summit
wasn't
very
useful,
and
so
I
wouldn't
do
like.
I
wouldn't
redo
an
offline
version.
Sorry
an
online
version
an
online
version
this
year
again
because
I
don't
like
I
didn't
get
anything
out
of
it-
I
barely
joined.
It
was
really
not
something
that
I
found
really
useful
to
me.
D
B
I
I
generally
agree
with
with
toby
on
this
more
specifically
like
figuring
out
how
to
get
value
out
of
something
and
and
not
like.
I
I
I'll
be
honest.
I
don't
think
a
traditional
like
meeting
setting
is
gonna
work
for
us
getting
value
out
of
it
just
cause
like
there's
gonna,
be
people
who
I
mean
like
I,
I
very
similar
to
toby.
I
just
basically
didn't
end
up
attending
a
lot
of
things.
B
The
dui
was
horrible,
it
just
it
was
really
a
struggle
bus
to
get
there
and
like
do
anything
meaningful
so
like
in
that,
I
would
say,
if
we're
planning
on,
if
we
want
to
do
something
figuring
out
what
we
want
to
do
and
then
going
and
figuring
out
the
solution
for
that,
rather
than
finding
the
solution
for
it
and
then
like
putting
building
a
structure
around
that
solution
is
going
to
be
the
better
way
to.
A
So
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
in
terms
of
consensus
is
we're
not
interested
in
pushing
to
do
an
online
thing.
That's
in
conjunction
with
the
openjs
world,
and
perhaps
what
we
want
to
do
instead
is
look
into
the
feasibility
of
something
a
few
months,
after
maybe
in
person
or
online,
but
more
kind
of
catered
to
the
to
tierne's
point
designed
around,
like
the
the
thing
that
we
want
to
do
as
opposed
to
is
that
accurate
recap.
B
I
also
think
that
that
is
a
good
point
that,
like
we
could
potentially
end
up
doing
something
in
person.
I'm
not
I'm
not.
I
don't
have
super
high
hopes
for
that,
but
you
know
as
things
progress
and
as
vaccines
roll
out
I
mean
I
would
say
that
our
vaccine
requirement,
for
that
would
probably
be
ideal,
but
that's
also
like
a
gated
thing
of
access
and
stuff.
So
you
know
it's
a
thing:
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
how
to
how
to
what
the
likelihood
of
that
is.
But
it's
it's.
B
You
know
also
a
good
point
to.
If
it
does
end
up
being
likely
or
possible,
we
can
kind
of
have
that
chance.
If
we
don't
do
it
with
the
event.
A
Should
we
take
some,
or
at
least
maybe
file
an
issue
to
take
some
volunteers
to
interrogate
collab
summit
in
the
fall,
whatever
I'm
just
waving
my
hands
because
we're
it's
nebulous.
B
A
A
A
Openjs
foundation
cross
project
council
items
private
slack
channel
for
the
node
js
build
team
machine
management.
D
Yeah
I
opened
that
one
basically
we're
just
having
a
discussion.
We
recently
moved
over
some
machines
from
one
of
one
of
our
infrastructure
donators
to
a
new
environment
and
as
part
of
that,
it
came
out
that
it
would
be
useful
to
actually
have
a
way
to
continue
to
collaborate
with
the
some
of
the
reps
at
the
the
donators,
the
donator
company.
D
And
I
opened
this
because,
like
I
don't
know,
if
we've
created
any
private
channels
and
thought
we
would
need
and
want
cpc
input
on
whether
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
we
should
do
and
then
also
kind
of
like
we
would
want
to
understand
who
the
slack
admins
are
because
we'd
have
to
assume
that
they
have
access
as
well.
In
terms
of
whatever
we
discussed
there.
A
Yeah,
so
we
definitely
have
private
channels
for
infra
items
for
other
projects,
so
this
would
be
kind
of
in
line
with
that,
because,
just
as
you
say,
sometimes
there's
things
that
you
need
to
share
that
you
don't
want
to
share
with
whole
entire
world.
Let
me
pull
the
list
really
quick
of
to
answer
your
other
question
about
admins.
A
Open
this
up,
but
I
don't
see
any
issue
creating
this
for
you
all.
B
Okay,
yeah,
the
the
other
other
thing
I'd
say,
is
like
at
least
as
a
cpc
member.
I
think
this
is
probably
a
good
thing.
If
this
had
existed,
when
moderate
node
moderation
started,
we
probably
wouldn't
have
a
paid
node
moderation
slack,
that's
that
is
also
sponsored
for
free
by
slack,
just
because
that'd
be
good.
It
reduces
the
need
for
us
to
to
do
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I
I
think
encouraging
projects
to
to
you
know
if
they
need
a
private
space
to
talk
is
fine.
I
would
assume.
B
I
think
one
thing
that
I
would
recommend
is
that
we
have
foundation
staff
members
in
there.
If,
if
that's
okay,
I
think
that,
like
I,
I
would
assume
nobody
is
gonna-
be
upset
about
having
foundation
staff
as
like
people
in
there
just
to
make
sure
that,
like
you
know,
if
someone
says
something
bad
or
something
that
there's
like
visibility
into
that
right,
but
that's
the
only
that's
the
only
thing
I
think.
D
D
D
Is
is
dave
staff
as
well?
He.
A
Is
not
but
actually
seeing
that
list
I
was
like.
Oh,
those
are
folks
who
were
so
just
a
bit
of
a
history
about
this
particular
workspace.
It
was
the
js
foundation's
workspace
right.
E
A
Many
moons
ago
it
was
chris
and
and
dave
as
the
execs
of
the
js
foundation.
So
I
think
that's
just
more
of
a
legacy
and
I'm
sure
that
neither
of
them
would
feel
you
know
any
need
to
continue
now
that
brian
and
rachel,
and
robin
and
myself
as
staff,
have
that
so
so.
F
D
A
And
that's
closely
related
to
just
a
quick
combo.
I
was
having
with
tierney
before
I'll
prob
I'll,
create
an
issue
for
this,
but-
and
I
was
just
doing
some
late
cleanup
of
some
of
our
channels
that,
because
we
had
like
60
some
odd
channels
about
a
dozen
or
so
of
which
were
just
not
ever
used,
so
those
have
just
been
archived
and
I'm
looking
to
talk
with
folks
who
want
to
explore
ideas
for
just
kind
of
energizing
discussion
and
making
the
slack
space
more
welcome.
So
I'll
file.
An
issue
about
that.
A
Moving
on
number
725
is
the
travel
fund
allocation
for
2021
and
michael.
You
were
addressing
this
as
we
were
starting
to
kick
off
the
call.
D
Yep,
just
an
update
on
that
one
is
that
you
know
we
I
was.
I
should
have
updated
it
earlier.
So
sorry
about
that,
so
I
just
updating
to
reflect
what
was
in
the
budget.
It
was
set
on
the
assumption
that
travel
wouldn't
resume
until
the
latter
part
of
this
year.
Toby
makes
a
good
point,
though,
that
you
know,
maybe
those
funds
should
go
into
something
else,
and
I've
raised
the
conversation
with
the
board,
and
you
know
we're
we're
talking
about
that
through
email.
D
No,
no
closure
yet,
but
you
know
I
should
be
coming
back
with
what
the
discussion
is
in
terms
of
like
the
suggestion
based
on
the
the
input
we've
got.
A
Next
one
is
7
11.
E
Yeah
joe
suggested
that
to
bring
let
me
just
open
up
the
issue
joe
suggested
earlier,
that
to
bring
closure
to
this,
we
had
done
the
work
at
the
level
of
the
org
of
the
cbc's
org
and
that
to
close
it,
we
would
want
to
actually
message
the
different
projects
and
suggest
that
they
do
as
much
and
give
them
a
channel
on
slack
to
discuss
this,
and
so
I
assumed
that
you
probably
would
be
jory
the
one
reaching
out,
and
so
I
offered
an
email
template
to
get
you
started
and
if
people
agree
to
go
that
down
that
road,
I
think
it's
a
great
way
to
yeah
sort
of
like
finalize
this
issue.
A
That
would
be
great,
I'm
happy
to
take
that
template
and
send
it
out,
and
do
you
mind
if
I,
like
you
know
once
we
do
that?
Can
projects
perhaps
like
reach
out
to
you
if
they
have
like
questions
or
want
more
resources
or
things
of
that.
E
Sort,
I
I
think
this
joe's
suggestion,
which
I
liked
was
to
have
a
pound
in
fro
to
have
to
to
get
them
to
talk
about
this
impound
infra
and
have
some
of
us
actually
checking
that
there,
I'm
probably
not
the
best
resource
for
that
because,
like
the
challenging
bets
are
when
you
have
third-party
vendors
that
are
have
been
working
on
of
the
assumption.
E
That
master
was
the
main
branch
and
so
folks
that
have
actually
been
handling
large
projects
here
have
more
input
to
to
provide
than
I
I
haven't
done
any
of
that
work
for
like
difficult
s,
settings.
D
I
was
just
going
to
say
like
would
it
make
any
sense
to
use
a
different
channel
from
infra
just
like
dedicated,
so,
if
you're
just
interested
in
this
one
issue,
you
can
subscribe
to
it
versus
all
in
for
issues.
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
creating
another
one.
I'm
just
wondering
if,
like
focusing
on
this
and
giving
a
place
where
that's
discussed,
would
make
any
sense.
A
I
have
a
like
a
counter
opinion,
which
is
I'd,
love
for
them
to
just
have
the
conversation
and
infra
to
like
bring
more
awareness.
You
know,
and
then
also
you
know,
because
there
may
be
people
who
are
just
kind
of
casually
not
they're,
not
maybe
they
have
other
projects
or
something.
I
just
think
it
that
I
don't.
I
think
it
would
be
fine.
D
A
There's
only
like
45
people
in
infra,
you
know
in
the
last
30
days.
Let's
see
there
have
been
nine
posts,
so
it's
pretty
low
traffic.
I
think
it'll
be
fine.
A
Our
next
topic
issue
number
699,
improving
diversity
and
inclusion
at
the
open
jsf,
and
let
me
go
to
that
one.
This
one
was
opened
by
toby.
E
A
Yeah,
I
think
so
so
the
last
working
session
was
more
to
work
on
an
adjacent
topic
which
was
the
code
of
conduct
stuff.
So
I'm
not
sure
that
really
too
much
has
been
pushed
forward
on
this
topic.
Since
you
were
out
last
week,
toby
okay,.
E
So
I
think
we
should
just
go
ahead.
Follow
up
yeah.
We
should
just
continue
following
up
and
maybe
create
like
a
a
regular
meeting,
that's
outside
of
working
sessions
of
work
sessions,
whatever
those
are
called.
E
I
I
think
it's
really
interesting,
that
the
w3c
is
exactly
in
the
same
sort
of
state
that
we're
in
and
probably
other
organizations
do.
So
this
is
there's
value
in
connecting
with
these
different
folks
to
sort
of
like
tackle
these
issues
and
get
some
input
from
others
as
well.
I
think
it's
a
great
time
to
be
doing
this.
A
H
Yeah,
so
I
had
opened
up
the
pr
a
little
while
ago
and
there
was
a
we're
having
trouble
testing
something
making
sure
that
it
actually
worked.
I
think
just
really
over
the
past
12
hours
made
a
bit
of
progress
here.
So
big
picture
again
is
just
that.
H
We
need
for
probot
dco
to
pick
up
support
for
remediation
commits,
which
is
the
the
thing
that
I've
been
working
on
here
for
a
while
got
some
once
that
actually
goes
through
and
gets
merged,
then
the
the
guidance
that
I've
written
makes
sense
to
be
published
because
it
refers
to
that
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
getting
close,
though-
and
you
know
the
challenge
here-
is
that
you
know
everybody's
kind
of
doing
this
particular
work
on
a
volunteer
basis,
particularly
robot
dcos
maintainer.
H
So
you
know
attempting
to
respect
their
time
as
well,
because
they
have
limited
amount
of
time
to
be
able
to
solve
the
problems
that
I
apparently
created
so
attempting
to
be
cautious
and
respectful,
here
of
all
of
that
as
well,
but
we're
getting
close.
A
A
Long
silence,
nope,
okay
cool,
so
next
week's
working
session
is
going
to
be
around
two
on
some
of
the
coc.
A
Opportunities
we
found
last
week
and
that
should
and
joe-
and
I
have
a
draft
agenda
to
share
with
you
hopefully
today,
ahead
of
that
next
tuesday.
So
that's
the
plan
for
next
week's
working
session.
I've
already
shared
the
upcoming
meetings.