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A
B
Great
all
right
assuming
we
are
actually
live,
welcome
everyone
thanks
for
joining
another
episode
of
the
openjs
foundation's
cross
project
council
meeting
today
is
the
19th
of
july
2022
and
we've
got
a
full
agenda
today.
Where
do
I
have
that
open?
Here
we
go.
B
I
will
drop
the
notes
in
the
chat
here
for
folks,
everybody
loves
when
we
chip
in
for
the
minutes-
and
please
add
yourselves
as
present
and
welcome
toby
and,
let's
see
so
getting
things
started.
Let
me
look
at
the
doc
here.
Do
we
have
any
announcements.
C
Well,
the
node.js
project
was
selected
as
a
feature
project
for
the
grace
hopper
open
source
day.
So,
if
you
are
one
of
the
30
000
people
registered,
you
are
welcome
to
sign
up
for
that.
It's
a
hackathon
on
day
zero
that
friday
lots
of
cool
folks
from
the
node
project
are
working
on
putting
that
together
and
then
we
will
have
a
presence
openjs
and
the
lf.
The
following
week
at
the
in-person
conference,
cool.
B
That's
great:
let's
see.
B
C
B
That's
great
all
right,
excellent,
any
other
announcements.
C
Marketing
committee
meeting
was
cancelled
this
month.
Kylie
has
a
plan
to
sort
of
rebuild
that
and
work
on
getting
the
right
people
for
the
right
time
that
works
for
the
right
people
around
the
table,
but
all
of
you
are
of
course,
welcome
to
attend
great.
C
We
have
a
board
meeting
on
friday.
We
can
report
out
after
that,
okay,
we
have
open
board
elections
right
now.
We
have
a,
we
have
two
open
seats
for
silver
and
we
have
our
secondary
board
seat
for
the
cpc
open
right
now.
B
B
B
Cool
all
right,
there's
nothing
else.
I
will
jump
into
the
agenda
here.
B
First,
one
up
is
the
openjs
world
retrospective,
while
he'd
opened
this
13
days
ago.
It
says
they'll
share
this
with
the
program
committee
and
out
of
the
cpc
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
So
I'm
guessing
I'm
going
to
quickly
look
at
the
calendar.
C
Decided
to
cancel
those
until
september
and
use
the
cpc
meeting
or
maybe
a
working
session
or
kind
of
a
debrief.
C
B
Yeah
and
we
do
need
to
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
do
next
week
in
terms
of
the
working
session.
So
I
guess
this
is
one
option.
D
C
Have
a
report-
and
it's
just
about
done-
we
were
just
pulling
all
of
the
final
numbers.
We
just
put
the
final
edits
on
that
yesterday.
So
we'll
have
that
to
share
broadly
to
anyone
who
wants
to
see
we'll
publish
that
okay.
C
Yeah,
you
know
attendance
was,
I
think
we
saw,
I
think
we
were
thinking.
We'd
have
600
in
person,
it
was
closer
to
500
and
change
all
up.
Our
virtual
attendance
was
great.
I
can't
remember
the
number,
but
I
think
the
people
who
registered
versus
the
people
attended.
We
had
about
over
90
retention
from
those
who
registered
for
virtual
versus
who
attended,
which
is
pretty
amazing,
yeah.
We
always
you
know.
C
The
program
committee
really
puts
together
an
amazing
agenda
with
great
speakers,
so
that
certainly
helps
and
we
do
see
you
know
we
take
all
of
that
content
and
use
it
over
the
next
like
six
months
to
continue
to
drive
eyeballs
so
definitely
value
there,
but
yeah.
B
Great
all
right!
Well,
assuming
you
know,
I
guess
we'll
still
decide
later
on
in
the
meeting
of
what
we're
doing
next
week,
but
assuming
that
that
report
is
ready,
we'll
we'll
have
that
to
work
off
as
well.
It
sounds
good.
B
Great
all
right
well
moving
on
the
agenda.
The
next
item
is
the
patching
script
or
code
of
conduct.
I
was
just
talking
to
ben
hutton
this
morning
about
the
related
issue,
the
it's
also
on
the
agenda
here.
The
update
contributor
covenant
code
of
conductivity
2.1
poor
quest
851,
so
he
was
looking
at
trying
to
move
that
forward
anyway.
B
Looking
at
this
issue,
there's
nothing
more
than
what
toby
said
two
weeks
ago
I
mean
not
toby
jordan,
so
I
I'm
thinking
that
the
plan
is
to
try
and
get
the
other
issue
landed,
pull
request,
landed
and
then
figure
out
how
we
get
this
patching
script.
On
top
of
the
code
of
conduct.
B
Yeah,
but
once
we
get
the
other
pull
requests
landed,
I
think
you
know.
Hopefully
someone
will
pick
it
up.
Maybe
me
we'll
see
great
there's
nothing
more.
I
will
jump
on
to
the
next
one,
which
is
open.js
world
2023
planning.
B
There's
some
comments
here.
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
fresh
on
on
the
status
of
this
one
and
want
to
update
folks.
C
Yeah
we're
you
know.
One
of
our
proposals
was
to
co-locate
with
open
source
summit
in
may.
In
vancouver,
we
met
with
the
program
we
met
with
the
event
team,
under
angela
brown
at
the
linux
foundation.
Yesterday
they're
pulling
together
some
scenarios
and
budget
items
for
us,
hopefully
we'll
have
that
at
the
board
meeting
kind
of
as
a
starting
point
just
from
a
budget
perspective.
C
But
of
course
we
need
to
do
that
sort
of
the
post-mortem
as
well,
so
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
have
more
content
with
a
full
day,
either
one
or
two
tracks
and
then
a
half
day
as
well,
that
overlaps
with
open
source
summit
like
those
mini
summits
and
what
else
and
then
figure
out
how?
When
and
where
we
do
our
collab
summit
as
well,
and
I
do
want
your
feedback
there-
I
mean
it
seems
like
typically
the
collab
summits
happen
after
the
conference.
C
F
I
think
part
of
the
reason
we
did
that
was
we've
done,
that
how
we,
how
we
have
is
because
one
it
allows
people
to
kind
of
justify
which
is
like,
I
think,
would
still
fall
under
that
just
by.
D
F
Expense,
but
it
also
allows
people
to
more
like
not
have
to
participate
in
the
conference.
If
that
makes
sense
too
so,
there's
been
a
number
of
times
where
people
have
come
because
they
they
couldn't
justify
going
to
the
conference,
but
it's
still
there
and
they
still
get
the
benefit
of
the
majority
of
people
being
there.
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
as
true
with
it
being
on
a
monday,
because
you
still
have
to
travel
an
additional
day
like
you,
you
would
have
to
come
a
day
earlier.
Basically,.
C
So
if
the,
if
the
open
js
world
was
tuesday,
when
half
day
wednesday
could
open,
could
the
collab
summit
be
monday?
Was
the
question.
F
I
think
we've
also
done
two
days,
which
is
oh.
E
F
That's
that's
the
other
problem.
Sorry,
I
thought
you
were
saying
monday
and
then
into
tuesday.
D
Yeah,
I
don't.
I
don't
personally
think
like
we're
planning
one
like
a
node
one
aligned
with
the
dot
configure
and
we're
doing
that.
The
two
days
before
two.
F
D
C
Yeah,
I
totally
get
it
so
if
the
open
js
world
was
tuesday,
wednesday
collab
summit
was
thursday
friday,
you
would
just
miss
the
all
of
the
benefits
of
all
of
the
other
open
source
summit
breakout
sessions
that
those
were
of
interest.
F
I
think
the
other
challenge
there
is
the
historically
we've
done
with
the
javascript
conference
and
so
there'd
probably
be
slightly
less
justification
for
a
lot
of
people
to
do
it
with
open
source
summit,
because
historically
people
have
cared
more
about
the
javascript
side.
In
my
experiences
than
like,
I,
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
about
lf,
open
source,
stuff
and
less.
D
F
D
It's
for
me
personally,
it'd
be
nice
to
be
able
to
go
to
some
of
the
open
source
summit
things
so
but
yeah,
you
got
a
lot
of
bunch
of
different
things
to
balance,
and
you
know
I
I
I
guess
it's
like.
I
don't
know
how
we
get
get
people's
input.
I
would
go
for
the
hey.
Do
it
a
couple
days
before
so
that
you
could
go
to
both
right,
but
other
people
might
make
a
different
decision
right.
C
Yeah
yeah,
because
a
lot
of
folks
had
to
leave
half
day
on
the
second
day
in
austin,
because
they
were
catching
flights
back
so
that
second
day
was
less
attended.
We
could
actually
just
even
survey
the
50
kind
of
core
people
who
were
there
most
the
time
on
the
collab
summit
and
see
what
what
they'd
like.
B
B
I
don't
know
if
you
know
what
sort
of
response
we're
getting
or
if
we
even
need
to
discuss
that
until
close,
but
yeah
we're
still
open.
B
C
That
one's
a
little
unique,
I
think,
t
tyranny
pointed
that
out.
I
think
it
said
you
know
it's
ratified,
I
think
by
the
the
cpc.
I
believe.
That's
just
you
know
the
impact
projects
nominate
their
two
reps
and
then
I
believe
I'll
have
to
go
back.
The
cpc
then
thumbs
up
those
nominations,
those
those
recommendations.
So
it's
been
a
while.
F
No,
I
mostly
that
one
was
just
like.
Oh,
this
is
upcoming
and
I
need
to
take
care
of
this,
and
so
I've
had
to
pester
a
lot
of
people
over
the
past
couple
weeks
to
like
try
to
get
it
done
in
electron.
We're
making
progress,
we're
making
good
progress.
D
F
Yeah,
I
think,
somehow
being
able
to
ping
people
for
that
like
it
was
like.
If
I
wasn't
going
through
this
repo,
I
would
not
have
seen
that
so
figuring
out
a
way
to
like
ping,
stakeholders
and
say
hey,
please,
please
do
this,
because
I
also
don't
remember
doing
this
last
year,
I'm
not
gonna
lie
like
I
think
I
think
shelly
and
I
might
have
just
carried
over
and.
F
This
so.
C
F
Okay,
cool
yeah,
yeah-
I
I
I'm
not
particularly
concerned,
but
just
in
the
future
like
it'd,
be,
I
think,
this
time
it
should
be
fine
but
yeah,
just
in
the
future.
Having
like
you
know,
a
list
of
people
that
ping
from
impact
projects.
So
like
hey,
please
do
this
and,
having
like,
I
think,
a
monthly
time
was
good
for
us
because
it
allowed
me
to
get
gears
turning
for
yeah
to
slow
down
to
some
engineers
and
get
them
get
them
focused
on
this
for
a
sec,
so
yeah
cool.
B
Yeah
and
I
found
it
does
just
say,
ratified
whatever
that
means.
I
guess
I'm
dropping
the
link
directly
to
that
section.
In
the
issue
yeah
I
mean
on
the
node
side
rich
and
I
are
working
through
this
process,
for
you
know
js,
but
I
have
no
awareness
of
what
anyone
else
is
doing.
D
B
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
secondary
cpc
director
seat
similar
to
the
other
election.
You
know
this
is
open
and
closing
end
of
day
today,
nominations
are
made
the
email
to
the
operations
email.
B
Does
this
say
that
here?
Yes,
a
lower
down
comment?
I
should
have
put
that
up
in
the
description,
so
that
is
happening.
E
I
had
a
quick
question
for
that
one.
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
directors
and
officer
legal
insurance
for
this
role.
There.
D
B
Question
toby
moving
on
the
next
item:
is
the
public
slides
from
the
june
board
meeting?
You
know
we
touched
on
this
a
while
ago.
E
I
haven't
seen
those
and
I've
asked
for
a
link
to
them,
and
I
don't
think
sarah
saw
my
comments
so
because
she's
on
the
call
right
now
it
would
be
great
to
have
I
mean
if
they're
shareable
via
the
issue.
That
would
be
wonderful.
H
What
I
was
going
to
say
is,
I
think
it
was
a
miss
this
time
I
think
and
maybe
because
I
think
the
putting
it
together
worked,
but
then
I
wasn't
able
to
make
the
next
cpc
call.
So
I
wonder
if
we
could
just
declare
this
one
a
miss
and
do
it
this
time
and
then
I
think
the
because
I
think
the
question
was
I.
I
saw
your
comment
and
sorry
for
not
following
up.
H
I
think
the
question
was:
is
it
shareable,
because
there
were
some
things
I
think
we
include
that
may
have
been
sensitive,
but
we
wanted
to
include
them
because
we
wanted
the
cpc
to
be
aware
of
them,
so
so
yeah,
maybe
yeah.
I
think.
D
I
think
my
remembrance
was
like
the
board
was
all
comfortable
sharing
with
the
cpc
members,
but
that
doesn't
you
know
to
to
include
as
much
as
we
could
in
there.
We
don't
necessarily
want
to
make
that
100
percent
public
that
you
would
just
post
as
a
link
on
the
issue.
So
maybe
sarah,
your
suggestion
is
like
we
reconfirmed
that
in
the
board
meeting
this
time
and
then
we'll
know
exactly
what
to
do
going
forward
right.
B
And
and
then
I
I
I
perhaps
we
review
it
in
a
private
session
or
something
is
that
the
thinking
not
like
a
fully
published
session
yeah.
E
To
be
clear,
like
I
think
I
missed
that
call
too,
so
I
didn't
know
whether
they
had
been
shared
in
the
call
or
not,
and
so
it
was
like.
Oh,
is
there
a
link
somewhere
and
then
I
was
like?
Oh
actually,
maybe,
if
there's
another
link,
then
it's
because
it's
actually
not
shareable
for
reasons
that
are
absolutely
valid,
and
so
me
asking
whether
it
was
shareable
was
not
suggesting
that
they
absolutely
should
have
been,
because
I
understand
that
maybe
they
couldn't
for
good
reasons
and
so
just
for
context.
E
B
All
right,
great,
all
righty
I'll,
just
close
this
since
I
have
it
open
this
morning.
It's
a
mess
we'll
do
july
in
a
private
session,
with
cpc
members
boom
done
and
done.
Grace
hopper
is
the
next
issue.
This
is
issue
898.,
robin
you
want
to
chime
in
here.
I'm
not
sure
what
they're,
if
there's
more.
C
I
think
I
put
it
for
the
announcement.
I
think
what
we
should
do
perhaps
is
just
maybe
linked
to
the
tweet
he'll
setting
up
a
meeting
series
with
kind
of
the
core
team
on
that.
So
we
seem
to
be
moving.
C
B
B
This
is
something
that
is
in
progress
as
I
understand
that
the
opengs
foundation
is
working
on
the
legal
aspects
and
and
the
language
that
we'll
need
to
have
contributors
approve
in
terms
of
changing
the
license
from
artistic
to
something
approved
and
diana,
and
I
you
know,
diana
from
the
loopback
project
and
I
are
working
on
gathering
the
contributor
list,
the
list
of
contributors
and
working
through
like
who's
ibm's,
who
were
ibm's
and
who
are
not
ibm's
which
repos
they
contributed
to,
and
we
can
kind
of
work
through
it
all
together.
B
C
This
could
likely
take
several
months,
I
think,
to
contact
everybody
and
re-license
again.
We
may
want
to
take
the
agenda
tag
off
for
now.
So
should
we
even
close.
E
C
E
I
mean
like
there
was
a
question.
A
decision
was
made
and,
like
the
project
has
work
to
do,
and
I
mean
as
part
of
the
onboarding
process,
you
know
there's
like
a
tick
box
for
licensing
being
compliant.
I
don't
know.
B
Which
I
think
the
loopback
is
officially
onboarded,
so
it's
not
like
it's
going
to
be
caught
in
that
process
per
se.
Okay,.
B
So
you
know
I
don't
mind,
checking
in
on
this
every
other
week,
but
you
know
at
a
certain
point:
we
might
pull
it
off
the
agenda,
I'm
fine
with
whatever.
D
B
All
right
I'll
do
that
taking
the
agenda
label
off
right
now
sounds
sounds
good
to
me.
Great
next,
on
the
agenda
is
the
update
coc
to
version
2.1.
This
is
four
quest
851,
as
I
mentioned,
I
was
talking
to
ben
about
this
this
morning.
Let
me
see
if
he
commented
eight
hours
ago.
B
B
B
The
plan
is
to
I
have
this
yeah
initial
next
steps
create
a
repo,
but
I
didn't
want
to
do
that
until
I
had
things
for
the
repo
the
recurring
meeting
time,
the
suggestion
was
for
starters
to
just
do
it
opposite
the
standards
meeting,
which
is
1pm
every
other
week.
Eastern
time
did
somebody
have
a
comment,
sorry
nope
and
then
you
know,
update
the
security
slack
channel
and
start
to
kind
of
flesh
out
what
our
first
steps
are
and
our
goals,
and
things
like
that.
B
So
I
apologize
it's
been
a
little
crazy
lately,
but
I'm
gonna
get
this
ball
rolling
in
the
next
week
or
two.
C
C
We
blogged
on
our
progress
report
for
project
alpha
omega
on
the
node
project
and
we'll
do
that
monthly
and
part
of
that,
too,
is
looking
to
the
team
driving
that
to
see
what
best
practices
can
be
driven
through
the
javascript
community
at
large,
so
that'll
loop
into
the
security
working
group
as
well.
B
It's
great
fantastic
great
and
I
hope
we
can.
You
know,
pull
from
from
that
effort
and
take
some
of
the
learnings
and
such
cool.
So
the
last
down
to
the
last
three
here
the
license
check,
support
and
tooling.
I'm
going
to
open
this
issue,
but
I
assume
there's
nothing
new
here.
I
imagine
it's
still
kind
of
hell
up.
B
Thank
you
toby
in
advance
and
then
the
last
one
is
building
stronger
ties
between
at
large
maintainers
and
their
cpc.
Rep.
E
Yeah,
just
a
quick
note
on
this,
I
actually
talked
with
ben
earlier
today
about
an
issue
about
things
like
open,
collective.
Regardless
he
was
suggesting
that
he's
he's
incubating
right
now
I
mean
his
project.
Is
I
mean
the
project
that
he's
a
maintainer
of?
E
Is
an
incubation
right
now
and
he
was
he
felt
like
he
couldn't
really
use
the
at-large
maintainers
slack
channel
to
ask
questions
and
overall
it
just
felt
like
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
make
the
cpc
route
for
at
large
projects
also
the
cpc
web
forum
onboarding
project
so
incubating
projects,
because
it
feels
like
a
good
time
to
actually
collect
like
information
on
what's
happening.
This
is
really
when
people
bump
into
roadblocks
right
and
they
don't
have
a
rap.
Otherwise
they
do
have
a
champion.
But
it's
not
always
clear.
E
I
mean
I'm
not
sure
how
well
the
championing
role
has
has
worked
for
for
this
case,
and
I
also
do
think
that
the
at-large
rap
role
is
hard
to
make
happen.
So
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
way
to
sort
of
like
channel
people
into
that,
the
habit
of
actually
relying
on
that
person.
Anyway.
That's
that
was
my
thoughts.
B
Yeah
and
I
see
jordan-
here's
comments
he's
not
here
so
I'll
speak
for
them.
I
would
assume
incubating
x,
projects
are
treated
as
x
projects,
whether
x
is
at
large
or
otherwise.
H
B
C
I
like
to
think
of
incubating
is
already
sort
of
part
of
the
family,
and
that
process
is
more
just
an
administrative
things.
Sometimes
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
time,
depending
on
where
those
things
have
to
take
place,
whether
it's
a
big
company
for
example,
or
not,
or
whether
it's
a
smaller
project,
and
they
just
don't-
have
a
lot
of
time
so
yeah,
but
we
could
probably
do
more
to
make
sure
that
they
sort
of
do
feel
like
they
are
part
of
the
family.
E
Actually,
my
browser
has
locked,
so
I
actually.
B
E
So
I
mean
if
there
is
interest
in
I
mean,
if
there's
interest
in
seeing
this
that
way,
I
can
actually
look
at
what
language
that
would
unplug
changing
and
wherever
that
is,
and
make
a
poor
request
for
that.
B
E
Well,
I
mean
it
does
if
folks
that
are
on
morning,
don't
feel
like
they
have
a
right
to
talk
to
that
person
or
be
on
that
side
channel.
Then
you
do
want
to
make
it
more
official.
E
I
I
agree.
I'm
just
like
my
point
is
literally
I
had
a
you
know.
I
chatted
with
ben
today
on
the
not
on
that
channel
and
he
said
it
would
be
nice
if
I
could
join
that
channel.
If
it
would
be
like,
I
don't
you
know,
I
can't
remember
what
the
language
was,
but
regardless
like
there
was
really
and
like
he's,
been
really
in
the
issues.
All
the
time
right,
like
he's
been
hammering
this
thing.
So
if
he
feels
uncomfortable
about
this,
like
others
too
yeah.
F
I
and
I
I
also
think
that,
like
regardless
of
whether
or
not
people
should
feel
comfortable,
that
doesn't
mean
that
they
necessarily
will
and
so
setting
up
structures
where
they
we're
not
coming
it.
We're
not
putting
that
assumption
on
them
is
helpful
to
make
sure
that
they
actually
are
comfortable.
B
G
B
Great
with
that,
we
are
done
with
the
agenda.
We
do
need
to
choose
what
we're
gonna
do
for
the
working
session
next
week,
and
I
am
checking
the
dates
and
reminders
here,
which
I
think
is
all
the
election
stuff
that
we
already
have
going
on.
B
No
nothing
here
either.
I
guess
we
can
say
you
know
those
election
nominations
are
end
of
day
today,
so
I'm
guessing
tomorrow
we
will
send
out
an
email
and
maybe
a
slack
message,
and
this
is
the
last
day
to
do
it.
You
know
or
nominate
or
whatever
so
yeah.
C
B
Well,
yeah
for
considering
a
full
two
weeks,
then
I
think
we
would
announce
the
day
after
my
suggestion,
all
right,
great
so
look
for
that
tomorrow
and
otherwise
I
think
we
got
everything
covered
and
I
appreciate.