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UCF TAC Meeting 2021 12 16
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E
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A
To
move
on
with
submerge
with
the
openjs
foundation
and
some
of
the
icon
here
is
that
I
think
it
can
speak
a
little
more.
But
generally,
we
will
feel
like
the
financial
structure
was
how
the
membership
structures
is
not
sustainable
for
UCF
to
be
a
standalone
project
for
another
year,
and
one
of
the
options
we
do
have
is
that
we
have
an
offer
from
the
openjs
foundation
to
be
moving
a
project
and
moving
our
attack
into
under
the
opengs
foundation.
A
So
opengs
is
a
standalone
organization
managed
by
Linux
foundation,
and
it
has
a
governing
board
and
also
have
a
cross
project
Council
similar
to
our
attack,
and
we
have
four
staff
members
and
it's
a
foundation.
That's
hosted
many
apartment,
JavaScript
infrastructure
projects
such
as
node.js,
electron,
webpack
and
ampmvm.
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
it's
I
think
it
makes
sense
because
it's
like
a
much
bigger
foundation
and
it
has
it's
financially
sustainable
by
itself
and
it
has
a
governing
board
and
also
technical
board
as
well,
and
it's
kind
of
because
a
lot
of
our
project
today
is
also
JavaScript
based,
and
you
know
we
even
though
open
Dish
is
like
very
Broad
idea.
It's
not
a
specific
visualization
Focus,
but
we
could
create
our
own
working
group
and
the
openjs
I'm
moving
our
attack
into
into
the
into
there.
A
So
there's
some
points
out
how
it
emerged.
When
a
technique
is
going
to
happen
so
UCF
we
can,
we
will
create
its
own
collaborative
space
and
the
openjs
and
existing
tag
which
can
just
Port
over
to
cover
the
collaboration
space.
The
usmf
members
can
become
openjs
members
and
opengs
does
not
require
of
membership.
So
you
know
UCF
members
only
need
to
pay
for
openjs
membership
fee
and
and
Brian
correct
me.
If,
if
I'm
around
last
time,
when
we
have
a
chat,
Museum
member
will
have
our
first
year,
membership
fee
waived
right.
E
So
so
so
generally,
the
membership
costs
should
be
lower
for
each
member
right.
So
one
you
don't
so
we
had
the
problem
with
the
urban
Computing
Foundation
that
we
needed
to
pay
twice
right,
for
if
it
were
not
already
a
member
of
Linux
Foundation,
you
first
had
to
become
a
member
of
Linux
foundation,
and
then
you
also
had
to
so
you
had
to
pay
for
that,
and
then
you
had
to
pay
for
the
urban
Computing
Foundation.
You
know
and
then
obviously
out
of
the
urban
Computing
Foundation
a
lot
of
that
value.
E
C
I
in
general,
I
believe
that's
correct
when
you
take
into
account
the
Linux
Foundation
membership
as
well.
I
I
think,
maybe
one
of
the
other
things
to
to
look
at
here
as
well.
Just
kind
of
set
setting
aside
the
actual
cost
of
the
membership
tiers.
One
of
the
one
of
the
advantages
of
combining
with
a
larger
organization.
Is
you
get
some
economies
of
scale
on
the
management
side
of
things
and
that
you
know
just
to
provide
some
transparency
to
the
discussions
that
were
happening
on
the
governing
board?
C
There
was
some
concern
that
UCF
hadn't
quite
met.
The
you
know,
kind
of
the
minimum
bar
for
scale
to
be
able
to.
You
know
both
manage
itself,
which
is
where
you
know
good
a
good
deal.
The
funding
kind
of
needs
to
go
because
there's,
obviously
the
human
costs
associated
with
getting
things
up
and
running
keeping
things
running
but
then
also
being
able
to
you
know,
make
additional
investments
in
the
ecosystem
that
that
really
help
the
projects
grow
and
specifically
I'm
thinking
about
things
like
having
marketing
resources.
C
Being
able
to
you
know,
participate
as
a
you
know,
as
a
primary
project.
In
a
events
like
your
significant
sized
events,
you
know
there
are
advantages
to
being
in
certain
you
know,
being
being
associated
with
certain
projects
and
being
in
certain
rooms
that
help
cross
prom
cross
pollinate
the
adoption
of
the
different
projects
as
well
as
the
contributors,
so
there
there
are
quite
a
few
quite
a
few
reasons
that
you
know
this
is
potentially
on
the
table
here.
C
C
How
the
governing
board
knows
this,
but
I
I've
been
working
on
openjs
foundation
for
a
number
of
years
here
here
at
the
Linux
Foundation
I
came
in
right
around
the
time
of
the
JSF
and
node
Foundation
merger
and
helped
operationally
on
the
back
end.
So
I've
got
you
know
a
pretty
good
perspective
here
on.
You
know
the
kind
of
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
what
makes
these
foundations
run
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Certainly
you
know
we
want
to
be
as
open
and
transparent
through
this
as
possible
foreign.
B
What
do
you
guys
think
is
going
to
happen
with
the
with
the
existing
members
and
probably
with
the?
Would
you
talk
to
the
board
I
mean
like?
Is
it
that
in
a
way
is
what
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
I
was
interesting
about.
The
urban
Computing
Foundation
is
the
fact
that
it
was
supported
by
key,
let's
say
about
the
stakeholders
of
the
industry
in
this
thing,
so
will
they
will
they
turn
over
and
is
there
already
other
other
kind
of
like
contributors
to
the
to
this?
C
We
yes
so
similar
to
Urban
Computing
Foundation
openjs
Foundation
is
a
member
supported
organization.
There
are
a
couple
of
things,
though,
that
come
with
the
scale
of
openjs
foundation.
It
is
you
know,
looking
at
it
effectively.
Where
does
the
money
come
from
to
pay
for
all
the
structures
to
keep
things
running?
It
is
a
bit
more
Diversified.
They
have,
for
example,
the
certification
program
around
node.js,
which
gives
some
diversification
from
just
membership
dues,
there's
a
conference
that
gets
run
every
year.
C
C
E
Mean
from
a
practic
from
a
practical
perspective,
right
I
mean
it
was
very
exciting
to
have
a
ball
consisting
of
a
number
of
of
key
players,
but
in
reality
you
know,
Uber
was
a
big
member.
They
very
rarely
participated
in
the
board
and
the
topics
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
the
last.
You
know
three,
four
five
months
is,
you
know,
really
earth
related
to.
How
are
we
going
to
continue
this
foundation?
So
it
has
just
been.
You
know,
big
meta
discussions
about.
E
You
know
how
we're
gonna
do
funding.
You
know
what
kind
of
options
we
had
to
to
kind
of
sustain
this,
and
so
this
has
been
very
you
know
in
a
way,
unproductive
time
we
haven't
really
talked
about
like
bringing
in
new
technologies
or
new.
You
know
initiatives
or
you
know,
industry,
Partnerships
and
so
on
the
things
that
would
be
really
exciting,
and
so
it
feels
a
bit
like
we're.
Not
we
don't
really
have
critical
mass.
E
E
E
I
wouldn't
necessarily
count
on
Uber
staying
here,
but
you
know
Foursquare
certainly
will
unfolded,
will
be
here
I,
you
know,
Google
big
companies,
like
Google
I,
think
are
already
Platinum
members,
so
it
would
be
easier
to
to
to
to
re-engage
with
them,
and
you
know,
because
of
Peace
on
our
lower
bar
is
lower.
It
should
be
easier
to
invite.
I
was
working
very
hard
to
invite
the
numbers
modeling
smaller
companies
to
the
urban
Computing
Foundation.
But
when
you
add
it
up
to
two
fees,
it
just
became
so
expensive.
B
So
what
you're
saying?
Essentially
it's
going
to
be
cheaper.
It's
there's
already
quite
a
bit
of
a
structure
in
there
and
nothing
is
going
to
change
much
so
right
because
it
sounds
like
yeah
and
it
starts
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
I
think
was
obtaining
around
Urban
conditions.
They
say
what
makes
The
Branding
on
itself,
but
it
sounds
like
we
can
well,
first
of
all
we're
not
benefiting
them
nuts.
So
as
long
as
this
will
also
I
assume
we'll
continue.
B
C
C
One
of
the
advantages
of
being
in
a
larger
Foundation
really
is
you
know,
there's
there's
less
of
a
question
of.
Do
we
have
enough
members
to
keep
the
lights
on
next
year,
and
that
is
one
of
the
major
advantages
here,
and
one
of
the
things
we
discussed
in
the
in
the
governing
board
meeting
was
that
there
are
governance
structures
within
openjs
Foundation
that
effectively
allow
the
tax
to
court
over
right,
so
that
that
the
goal
here
is
minimum
disruption
to
the
projects.
C
The
goal
here
is
is
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
these
concerns
about
whether
the
lights
stay
on
are
no
longer
concerns
and
I.
Think
we've
got
a
pretty
good
option
for
that
and
won't
go
into
the
specific
details.
We
went
through
them
pretty
deeply
in
the
in
the
last
governing
board
meeting.
But
you
know
that's,
it
does
seem
like.
There
are
quite
a
few
good
things
that
can
come
out
of
this
and
it
seems
like
a
fairly
straightforward
path
forward.
F
I'd
like
to
add
a
bit
of
perspective,
you
know
you
were
saying
you
know
it
seems
like
a
no-brainer
and
and
I
think
it
really
is
a
no-brainer
to
everybody
actually,
except
for
maybe
Joby
like
in
the
sense
that
we
literally
just
joined
the
the
board,
but
but
at
the
same
time
I'm
completely
on
board
and
joby's
completely
on
board.
With
this
move,
because
when
when
we
joined,
we
just
basically
broke
even
by
us
joining
on
on
keeping
the
lights
on
for
another
year.
F
Without
that
we
would
have
been
in
the
red,
and
it's
really
difficult
to
see
additional
groups
coming
on,
to
bring
us
to
any
kind
of
scale
compared
to
what
openjs
Foundation
can
offer.
And-
and
so
you
know
it
was.
It
was
a
bit
of
a
surprise
but
also
turned
into
an
interesting
opportunity
to
to
join
as
a
member
and
then
have
the
kind
of
first
topic
that
come
up
be
like.
Oh,
actually,
we're
not
really
sure
how
we're
going
to
we're
not
really
sure
how
we're
going
to
grow
this
Foundation
further.
F
F
The
engineering
work
and
the
the
technology
that
we
develop
and
basically
de-prioritize
the
policy
side
and-
and
you
know
things
that
the
really
policy
and
marketing
side
of
things
that
the
board
was
originally
developed
to
to
kind
of
promote
I
mean
the
history
of
the
board
is
something
I've
been
learning
about
when
I
joined
and
it
was
originally
like,
Google,
Facebook
Uber
and
they
all
had.
You
know
these.
These
plans
on
initiatives
that
they
were
going
to
do
and
many
of
them
just
didn't
really
pan
out
on
the
policy
side
of
things.
F
But
what
has
persisted
through
this
whole
thing
has
been.
You
know:
duck
GL,
Kepler,
GL,
Biz
GL.
All
these
projects
that
have
been
growing
and-
and
you
know,
have
a
lot
of
users
that
and
developers
that
really
love
our
projects,
so
I'm,
hoping
that,
like
my
priority,
you
know
as
a
kind
of
a
and
as
a
board
member
is
to
keep
the
governance
and
code
open.
F
B
Yeah
I
think
we
all
agree
and
in
a
way,
so
a
resources
like
we
all
be
I
mean
the
people
that
are
now
on
this
team,
and
this
project
is
because
we
believe
on
the
on
under
the
glucosystem,
and
you
know
and
the
potential
that
it
has
and
I
agree.
We
rather
you
know
like
work,
talk
about
these
things.
The
more
like
you
know
like
the
so
they
yeah
so
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
potential
just
if
we
just
keep
focusing
on
improving
the
technology.
B
I
I'm
I'm
a
firm
believer
that
we
are
in
a
very
strong
position
to
provide
the
most
powerful,
open
source,
visualization
framework
that
access
for
geospatial
data,
so
I
think
I
think
you
know
we
are
in
that
position.
If
we
keep
investing
and
attracting
you
know
like
contributors
and
so
on,
I
think
it
will
be
the
best.
So
if
this
Foundation
give
us
the
platform
to
to
focus
on
that,
I
I
think
this
is
what
we
at
the
end
of
the
day.
That's
what
we
all
want.
E
Yeah
I
mean
my
view
and
I
think
Sean
also
as
we
looked
at
it
right.
So
this
is
a
in
you
know.
We
met
also
some
representatives
and-
and
it
was
a
very
good,
it
felt
like
a
very
warm
welcome.
It
felt
like
we
were
getting
a
hug,
and
so
it's
a
so
you
know
I.
There's
no
question
in
my
mind
that
this
is
a
very
you
know.
Good
good
home
I
think
the
question
was:
is
it
like
the
best
home
for
because
one
we
are
not
quite
the
JavaScript
technology
right?
E
E
Have
a
very
strong
core:
it's
really
you
know
focused
on
the
browser
and-
and
so
it's
not
unreasonable.
So
that
was
one
kind
of
thing
that
it
could
be
a
little
bit
of
a
label
to
put
ourselves
in
a
JavaScript
Foundation,
but
not
enough
to
really
be
a
yellow
flag
and
the
the
other
thing
is
that
we-
we
actually
did
look
at
this.
E
So
so
we
so
we
feel
like
if
there
was
a
foundation
with
more
focused
on
Big
Data
or
you
know,
visualization
or
and
when
we
looked
over
at
the
Apache
Foundation.
All
of
the
cool
big
data
projects
are
there,
so
you
know
Apache
arrow
and
all
the
different.
You
know
big
databases
and
and
so
on.
So
we
actually
even
met
with
the
with
the
Apache
Foundation.
D
E
It's
it's
a
very
different
setup
and
it
would
be
quite
it
would
be
possible,
but
it
would
be
quite
a
lot
of
effort
and
some
of
the
projects
that
we
have
in
urban
Computing
Foundation
like
the
maps
and
would
not
be
willing
to
go
through
the
necessary
work,
and
so
it
just
seems
that
there
could
be
some
long-term
benefits,
but
but
it
doesn't
seem
would
be
worthwhile
to
so
we
have
so.
The
board
has
looked
into
what
I'm,
trying
to
say
board
has
turned
stones
and
looked
into
different
options.
D
C
C
C
C
The
other
side
of
that,
though,
is
being
able
to
maintain
the
identity
of
open,
visualization
and
geospatial
visualization
and
mapping,
and
things
like
that,
and
there
are
structures
within
the
the
technical
governance
of
the
openjs
foundation
that
allow
for
effectively
self-organized
groups
and
the
at
least
the
initial
thought
is.
The
attack
could
become
one
of
those
self-organized
groups.
C
F
F
There
are
some
board
rules
that
get
elected
in
we're
not
expected
to
be
like
running.
You
know,
so
that
kind
of
goes
away.
The
tack
we
have,
which
is
the
meeting
we're
at
right
now
and
all
of
the
GitHub
organization,
based
kind
of
collaboration
and
and
any
kind
of
architectural
stuff
that
stays
intact.
Like
that,
doesn't
change.
It
will
maybe
get
a
different
name
and
it'll
be
a
collaborative
space
under
openjs,
but
there
will
be
no
change
because
it
doesn't
need
to
change
and
that's
the
whole.
F
That's
where
all
the
work
is
getting
done,
so
we
don't
want
to
touch
anything
there.
The
other
thing
is
that
you
know
we
have
there's
a
couple:
trademarks
that
we're
trying
to
keep
maintained.
The
map
send
has
a
trademark.
We
also
have
a
variety
of
domains
that
get
paid
for
every
year.
Those
would
get
transferred
over
too
and
and
so
I
think
I'm,
not
missing.
Anything
I
think.
That's
it.
F
F
Do
that's
that's
very
active,
but
there
are
still
people
that
are,
and
there
are
very
active
Forks
of
map
Zen,
and
so
it
was
kind
of
an
interesting
Community
to
navigate
and
and
I
think
that
there's,
like
always
the
open,
it's
always
an
open
door
for
those
Forks
to
want
to
come
back
in
and
participate.
But
at
the
moment
it
seems
like
from
the
representatives.
We've
talked
spoke
to
the
map.
Zen
original,
like
GitHub
organization,
which
isn't
tiles
on
and
it
isn't
you
know
what's
on
first
and
it
isn't.
F
Forgetting
some
of
the
other
ones,
I
mean
there's
like
Transit
land
and
all
the
different
sub-projects
of
maps
and
that
have
forked
off
those
would
not
be
moving
along
with
us
because
they're
not
actually
part
of
the
foundation,
and
so
it
was
it's
kind
of
unrelated
to
vizgl.
It's
not
really
what
we
discuss
every
month,
but
you
know
the
whole
point
is
to
not
drop
anything
when
we
make
a
move.
F
C
So
there's
an
opportunity
there
of
you
know
if
if
they
have
an
interest
in
effectively,
you
know
reorganizing
or
organizing
underneath
the
openjs
foundation,
there
is
a
Project
Life
Cycle
process,
which
is,
you
know
very
well
tended
by
the
cross
project
Council
to
become
an
official
openjs
Foundation
project,
which
then
provides
access
to
the
various
resources
and
support
of
the
foundation.
Obviously
that's
optional,
but
it
is
that
door
is
absolutely
open.
C
On
the
other
hand,
if
the
goal
is
to
work
effectively,
Downstream
from
the
original
maps
and
code
and
the
and
you
know,
maps
and
itself
proper
is
is
something
which
is
not
going
to
be
maintained
actively
going
forward.
Then
it
is
a
place.
You
know
it's
effectively,
it's
a
home,
you
know
openjs
Foundation.
Has
this
this
idea
of
Emeritus
or
archived
projects
where
there's
not
really
activity
going
on
the
repos
may
be
archived.
But
you
know
the
trademarks
are
still
being
maintained.
Domains
are
still
being
maintained.
C
There's
you
know
a
backup
owner
on
the
GitHub
board
so
that
effectively
these
things
can't
be
picked
up
and
taken
somewhere
else
by
somebody
who
may
not
have
the
greatest
of
intentions.
So
it
there
are,
you
know
many
different
ways
to
look
at
this
I.
Think
kind
of
the
key
thing
is
this
doesn't
mean
the
end
of
these
projects,
even
if
it
does
mean
that
they
go
into
archive
state,
it
doesn't
mean
the
the
end
and
they
are
still
being
tended.
B
For
practical
thing,
I
mean
one
last
thing
that
kind
of
like
in
a
way
with
I've,
been
missing,
particularly
about
the
urban
Computing
foundation
and
the
management
of
us,
for
example.
Recently
there
was
this:
there's
the
first
4G
conference
right,
the
free
and
open
source
software
for
geospace
circumference,
it's
a
very,
very
large
conference,
and
there
was
no
abstracts
on
Deck
TL,
for
example,
and
that
was
I
found.
B
The
general
idea
was
a
real
PD
right
because
we
were
kind
of
like
missing
like
and
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
we're
saying
like
oh
gosh
I
wish
there
was
someone
that
would
say:
hey
guys,
send
abstracts
here
now.
There's
these
opportunities,
you
know
for
promotion
as
you've
noticed
all
too
organic.
C
One
is
that
openjs
Foundation
does
have
funded
marketing
staff,
and
you
know
to
be
to
be
kind
of
clear
on
on
the
marketing
folks
roles
here.
It's
it's
effectively
working
to
help
promote
the
obviously
the
foundation
itself,
but
also
the
projects
as
they.
You
know
they
go
through
a
release
or
something
like
that:
you're
making
sure
that
these
things
get
promoted,
providing
a
place
to
to
do
write-ups
on
high
traffic
websites,
for
example.
C
If
there's
a
recent
release-
and
you
want
to
tell
the
world
about
it-
somebody
who
can
help
you
with
that
process,
the
other
side
of
that
is
kind
of
the
more
Project
Specific
question
that
you
were
asking.
You
know
who
who
can
give
us
a
poke
that
there's
a
that
abstracts
are,
are
being
submitted
right
now
for
a
conference
that
you
might
be
interested
in.
Typically,
we
do
rely
on
the
projects
to
be
the
experts
in
that,
as
opposed
to
the
foundation,
so
that
that
sort
of
you
know
speaker,
placement
type.
C
Work
is
something
that
we're
not
currently
doing
for
projects
with.
That
said,
the
hope
is
that
we
can
provide
support
on
the
other
things,
which
frees
up
the
bandwidth
to
be
able
to
do
that
directly
within
the
project,
so
that
I
hope
that
kind
of
puts
some
some
context
on
the
on
the
rough
boundaries
of
marketing
work.
C
D
A
F
I
think
one
one
thing
I
wanted
to
to
bring
up
was
I
was
hoping
to
I
mean
because
the
end
state
of
all
this
would
be
basically
the
tax
survives
I
mean
an
attack,
like
is
what
is
primarily
the
function
of
of
everything
that
gets
done
if
we,
if
we
merge
over,
because
the
board
doesn't
exist
anymore,
there's
no
other
body.
Besides
the
attack,
what
I
was
hoping
to
get
kind
of
the
perspective
of
all
the
current
Sac
members?
F
Not
everybody
is,
is
here
today,
so
you
know
I,
don't
feel
like
at
the
conclusion
of
this
meeting.
That
will
really
have
heard
all
the
voices
at
least
I
haven't
yet,
but
it's
really
important
to
to
me
that
all
of
the
people
that
are
actively
contributing
to
the
tech
and
participate
in
the
architectural
choices
really
like
want.
This
too,
like
you
know,
can
come
to
the
come
to
the
same
position
that
I
have
come
to
where
they
want
this
to
and
if
they
don't
I.
F
Also
I
really
want
to
understand
that
too,
so
that
it
can,
it
can
play
a
role
in
helping
us
figure
out.
What's
right
because
the
goal
is
at
the
end
of
this
to
accelerate,
not
decelerate,
so
we
currently
feel
like
we're
stagnant
or
decelerating,
and
so
we're
hoping
that
we
can
make
a
change.
That'll
help
accelerate.
E
A
Yeah
and
even
I
individually,
we
already
met
this
Randy
from
maps
and
and
slowly.
This
idea
was
him
and
to
him
it's
like,
since
they
don't
have
an
active,
they
don't
have
resources
to
actively
maintaining
maps
and
and
keep
working
with
the
foundation
I
actively
working
with
foundation
for
him
it's
as
long
as
the
projects
move
to
a
foundation
under
LF
that'll
keep
them.
So
they
have
the
minimum
support,
keeping
the
project
open
source.
A
C
And
maybe
just
to
kind
of
bring
things
back
to
the
kind
of
full
circle
to
the
beginning
of
the
conversation,
one
of
the
advantages
of
effectively
hosting
the
UCF
projects
under
the
large
larger
umbrella
of
a
larger
Foundation.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
less
exposure
to
the
activity
or
inactivity
of
Any
Given
member
any
given
financially
supporting
member
it
does
provide
quite
a
bit
of
diversification,
provides
the
economies
of
scale
and
provides
stability
as
well.
C
To
the
point
about
not
not
making
a
decision
today,
I
fully
agree.
This
is
something
which
you
know:
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
small
decision,
and-
and
it
is
the
sort
of
thing
that
it
should
be
well
considered-
and
you
know
should
be-
should
be
gathering
feedback.
You
know
the
goal
is
not
to
Ram
this
through
goals.
C
Obviously
you
know
to
to
not
let
it
go
forever,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
there
are
concerns,
if
there
are
questions
you
know,
IB
Sean,
Chris,
Johannes,
we've
we've
been
discussing
this
quite
a
bit
recently
and
I
think
any
of
us
would
would
probably
be
able
to
answer,
or
or
at
least
you
know,
take
the
feedback.
If
you
have
feedback.
E
Yeah
I
mean,
from
my
perspective,
right
I
mean
we've
worked
through
this,
so
so
this
is
a
tooth.
This
requires
a
majority
vote
in
the
in
the
board.
We
currently
have
you
know
five
voting
members,
so
it
requires
four
out
to
find
members
and
we
have
we're
still.
You
know,
checking
Uber's
opinion,
but
we
have
four
members
who
are
in
favor,
so
we
are
able
to
make
a
boat
in
the
board
today
and
make
this
change.
E
E
F
E
F
Us
are
any
of
us
are
here
to
listen,
not
just
today,
but
you
know
over
the
next
weeks
to
understand
perspectives
that
you
know
might
take
some
time
to
be
mulled
over
we'll
be
posting
on.
You
know,
issues
publicly
on
all
of
our
projects,
so
that
people
understand
Our
intention
and
they
can
leave
comment
and
discuss
further,
because
yeah
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day.
We
just
really
don't
want
to
be
alienating
groups,
that's
and
doing
things
that
are
really
against
contributors
wishes.
F
E
Mean
what
is
pretty
clear
by
the
fact
that
we
can
do
this
is
that
these
decisions
are
not
irreversible
right.
If
they're
in
the
future
should
emerge
an
incredible
Big,
Data,
visualization
Foundation,
you
know
we
could
have
another
look
at
this,
but
it's
obviously
not
a
change.
We
want
to
do
very
frequently
given
the
overheads
involved,
and
so
we
want
to
find
something.
That's
a
good
home
for
or.
F
F
B
B
I'm
not
joking,
it
might
not
be
a
bad
idea
that
we
do
some
sort
like
branding
revamp
in
the
sense
of
like
hey
big
deal.
You
know
like
the
new
version
of
the
ideal:
here's
the
logo,
oh
you're,
the
the
whole
ecosystem.
In
a
way
we
put
some
logo
into
it
and
we
say,
and
now
we're
part
of
a
foundation
yeah.
B
So
we
don't
focus
on
the
fact
that
we're
changing
Foundation,
because
it's
at
the
end
of
the
day
is
useless
for
the
for
the
users
that
you
don't
care
about
that,
but
I
mean
unless
they're
looking
at
the
governance
and
so
on,
and
what
they
carry
is
like:
hey
here's
people
who
are
highly
motivated.
You
know
this
project
has
a
lot
of
life
and-
and
we
appreciated
here
all
over
people-
get
excited
about
these
things.
E
Yeah
and
I
mean
like
if
we
can
announce
it
together
with
the
message
that
this
is
increased
investment
and
our
counter
is
joining
in
a
big
way
and
this
and
that
right
we
can
like
build
a
story
how
this
is
not
just
something
we
had
to
do
because
UCF
was
dying,
but
we're
doing
this
because
you
know
it's
a
big
game
right.
It's
like.
D
B
F
Love
it
yeah.
It
definitely
is
a
positive
change.
In
my,
in
my
view,
I
I
was
really
excited
to
have
Joby
join
the
urban
Computing
Foundation
because
of
these
projects
that
we
get
to
work
on
and
I'm
really
excited
about
the
opportunity
of
merging
into
openjs,
because
of
how
awesome
I
think
that
the
foundation
is
done.
Putting
putting
this
group
together
over
there
and
and
being
so
welcoming
to
you,
know
all
of
our
all
of
our
projects
and
really
recognizing
all
the
hard
work
that
we
all
do.
B
A
All
right,
I
think
that's
conclusive
yeah,
so
we
will
start
it
to
the
process
and
let
you
guys
know
what
are
the
next
steps
and
likely
there
won't
be
much
for
the
projects
to
do
it's
mainly
on
the
tech
to
move
over
the
existing
documentations
and
creating
a
subgroup
with
OS.
But
right
so
we
will
still
have
our
type
meeting,
January
or
I.
Think
that's
what
we
can
just
okay
right.
So.