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From YouTube: Towards a Sustainable Solution to Open Source Sustainability - Tobie Langel, UnlockOpen
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Of
course,
this
created,
like
a
sis
mashach
in
the
industry,
and
everyone
started
talking
about
the
problem
of
open
source
sustainability
of
maintainer
burnout
and
people
starting
started
to
try
to
find
solutions.
The
solutions
that
emerged
were
very
much
focused
on
preventing
another
heartbleed
bug.
The
first
one
was
the
core
infrastructure
initiative.
There
was
an
industry-wide
effort,
backed
by
the
large
tech
companies
and
organized
by
the
Linux
Foundation.
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A
Let's
look
at
another
different
attempt
to
create
a
similar
kind
of
revenue
stream
for
print
source
developers
get
coin.
So
what
exactly
is
good
coin
won't
get
coin
is
actually
multiple
things,
but
sensual
to
it
is
a
github
issue
market
where,
as
a
developer,
was
the
owner
of
a
project,
you
can
essentially
add
bounties
to
github
issues
and
developers
submit
their
work
as
a
pull
request
and
claim
the
bounty
as
such,
and
the
platform
actually
has
been
distributing
quite
a
bunch
of
money.
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A
What
is
coach
fund,
while
code
fund
leverages
the
fact
that
open-source
projects
usually
have
websites
and
that
those
websites
are
great
places
to
find
developers
interested
in
a
specific
set
of
technology
right?
So
the
ads
are
very
much
focused
on
hiring
and
the
contextual
hands.
So
you
know
they
avoid
all
of
the
tracking
issues
that
advertisement
usually
has
on
the
web.
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So
the
real
big
success
story
of
open
collective
is,
of
course,
webpack,
which
has
been
funded
in
four
to
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year
and
created
like
a
really
really
win-win
situation
for
key
sponsors.
There's
a
really
interesting
story
about
how
trivago
funded
webpack
threw
up
and
collective
and
essentially,
as
a
result,
got
a
ton
of
interest
from
javascript
developers
who
wanted
to
join
a
company
because
they
saw
it
as
really.
A
This
is
actually
a
very
similar
scheme
to
what
tide
lifts
another
company
operating
in
this
space
has
created
as
a
business
model.
So
what
is
tide
lifts
exactly
well,
it's
essentially
red
hats
business
model,
but
for
the
long
tail,
so
it
provides
two
companies
in
a
number
of
things
around
and
open-source
projects,
including
security
updates,
maintenance,
legal
insurance,
etc
for
all
of
the
open
source
projects
that
an
organization
relies
on
and
how
does
it
does
it?
How
does
it
do
it?
Sorry?
Well,
that's
the
really
interesting
aspect.
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Is
it
do
it
by
paying
the
actual
maintainer
of
the
projects
to
do
the
work,
to
keep
those
projects
up
to
date
and
secure
and
so
contrary
to
the
other
projects
that
we've
talked
about?
There's
no
real
success
story
yet
of
a
set
of
developers
having
build
a
business
on
top
of
tight
left,
but
they're,
certainly
like
a
lot
of
interest
for
it.
A
So
you
know:
we've
looked
at
a
few
solutions
around
open
source
sustainability,
but
I
think
it's
also
time
to
consider
taking
a
different
look
at
those
and
seeing
whether
they
really
'trust
a
problem
in
a
way
that
seems
like
a
good
fit
and
frankly,
there
are
a
number
of
limitations
of
addressing
open
source
sustainability
through
just
the
lense
of
funding
right.
The
first
problem
is
whether
or
not
it
actually
skills
like
is
the
current
level
of
funding
that
we're
providing
realistic
compared
to
the
ubiquity
of
open
source
to
the
fact
that
open
source
is
everywhere.
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Secondly,
we
can
really
wonder
whether
money
is
really
the
problem
and,
what's
missing
from
over
the
source.
Wait
so
essentially
only
asking
them
problem
was
this.
Thirdly,
and
I
think
that's
also
really
key,
as
it's
important
to
wonder
whether
solving
open-source
sustainability
through
funding
alone
would
create
the
kind
of
outcomes
that
we
want
to
see
in
the
industry.
Don't
we
don't?
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We
risk
a
future
where
we'd
have
on
one
side,
charity
funded
open-source
developers
and
on
the
other,
sort
of
corporate
developers,
writing
essentially
glue
code,
and
so
you
know
being
fairly
well
paid,
but
having
really
really
boring
jobs
and,
lastly,
I
think
and
that's
sort
of
where
I
believe
is
the
real
answer
to
open-source
sustainability
long-term
is
to
have
a
different
look
at
what
the
real
value
of
open-source
is,
you
know,
and
to
try
to
address
this
issue.
What's
that
perspective
in
mind
all
right,
so
let's
look
at
scaling.
First,.
A
So
this
is
$100
bill
if
you
stack
$100,
sorry,
a
hundred
bills
of
$100,
you
get
$10,000
in
this
nice
little
stack
here
for
reference.
That
is
the
monthly
revenue
that
code
fund
that
we've
just
talked
about
is
making
from
advertisement
now.
If
we
stack
a
hundred
of
those
right,
so
two
orders
of
magnitude
more
we
get
to
$1,000,000.
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So
this
is
roughly
the
amount
of
money
that
opened
collective
is
collecting
higher,
or
at
least
was
in
2018
and
2019
I.
Don't
know
what
the
numbers
are
for:
2019,
sorry,
but
roughly
around
that.
That's
also
the
amount
that
tide
lifts.
The
other
company
that
we
talked
about
earlier
has
committed
to
pay
developers
from
all
the
VC
funding
they
received.
A
But
how
much
is
really
$1,000,000,
comparing
to
sort
of
like
the
size
of
open-source
in
the
world
and
and
a
good
example
of
that?
A
good
way
of
thinking
about
that
to
me
is
to
sort
of
have
a
look
at
the
worldwide
developer
population
and
see
how
many
developers
there
are
actually
as
a
story
and,
secondly,
to
start
thinking
about
how
much
money
are
these
developers
paid
like?
What's
them
was
total
mass
of
salary
paid
to
developers
worldwide?
A
So
this
is
data
from
developer
census
that
was
won
in
2018,
and
it
basically
says
that
there
are
roughly
12
million
full-time
professional
developers
a
little
over
6
million
that
are
working
part-time
and
roughly
4
million.
That
are
non-professional
right,
so
a
bit
above
20
million
developers.
One
way,
let's
do
some,
some
quick
back
of
the
envelope
math
to
see
what
kind
of
like
salary,
the
total
salary
that
creates
worldwide.
A
If
you
add
this
up,
it
gives
you
roughly
one
trillion
dollars
spent
in
wages
per
year
on
software
developers,
so
that
doesn't
account
for
everything
else
right
from
the
computer
to
the
rooms
in
which
they
work
to
taxes
paid
on
on
the
salaries,
etc,
etc.
Right
just
salary.
You
know,
you
know
those
numbers
might
be
high
for
some
parts
of
the
world.
They're
also,
you
know
65
and
35k,
but
they're
also
quite
low
for
other
parts
of
the
world
mate.
A
A
So
if
you
take
a
hundred
of
those
sort
of
like
a
stack
of
$100
bills,
you
get
a
pallet
like
you
wouldn't
palette,
and,
and
you
stack
it
all
those-
and
that
gives
you
a
hundred
million
dollars
right
now,
get
10
of
those,
and
you
have
1
billion
dollars
right,
10,
pallets,
four
hundred
dollar
bills,
1
billion
dollars,
but
remember
the
wages
were
talking
about.
There's
not
1
billion,
it's
a
trillion
dollars.
A
So
let's
have
a
look
at
what
that
means
right
here
you
have
10
billion
dollars
right,
so
you
have
for
size
of
a
phone,
a
full-size
truck
on
the
left.
Let's
have
a
look
at
what
one
trillion
dollar
means.
You
need
to
stack
a
hundred
of
those
to
find
a
one
trillion
dollar
right,
so
one
trillion
dollar
is
that
skyscraper
right
there
are
made
of
hundred
dollar
bills
on
wooden
pallets
on
stack
wooden
pallets
for
science.
Remember
down
there,
we
have
a
$1,000,000
right.
So
what
can
we
say
about
this?
A
And
so
that
begs
the
question:
is
money
really
what's
missing
right?
Are
we
trying
to
solve
the
right
problem
here
and
so
what
an
interesting
way
of
looking
at
this
is
looking
at
the
amount
of
developers
that
are
actually
fully
employed
by
a
company
and
they
were
not
looking
for
actual
funding
right.
So
the
open
you
know
them.
A
The
Linux
kernel
is
an
interesting
example,
because
we
have
data
for
this
from
the
next
kernel
development
report,
so
in
2016,
right
at
ears,
have
done
heartbleed
bug,
but
that
was
that
has
been
consistent
before
and
was
consistent
after
roughly
93
percent
92%,
sorry
of
developers
working
on
the
Linux
kernel,
we're
employed
then
we're
doing
data
support
of
their
job.
So
it's
it's
not
like
it's
suddenly.
You
know
they
will
certainly
spend
more
time
because
they're
paying
for
it,
then
they
you
know
they
get
funded
for
it
right.
It's
Smallville.
A
A
He
said
this
part
of
the
reason:
much
of
open
source
is
so
good
and
often
so
superior
to
closed
source
commercial
projects
is
the
natural
boundary
of
constraints,
if
you're
not
being
paid
or
otherwise
compensated
directly
for
your
work,
you're
less
likely
to
needlessly
embellish
it.
You're
solving
the
problems
for
you
in
your
mates,
likely
in
the
simplest
way
you
could
so
you
can
get
back
to
whatever
you
originally
intended
to
do
before,
starting
to
shave
yeah.
A
A
This,
in
my
opinion,
really
misses
the
big
picture
of
what
the
true
value
of
open
source
is
and,
if
you've
been
part
of
an
open-source
ecosystem,
I
mean
and
to
some
degree
all
of
you
being
here
today
are
about
a
part
of
one
right
at
different
levels.
Obviously,
but
you've
realized
that
a
lot
of
the
value
and
it
opens
with
ecosystem,
isn't
just
the
code
being
funded
right.
A
A
So
the
real
value
and
I've
talked
about
that
then
in
in
other
talks.
But
the
real
value
is
the
the
benefit
in
the
learning
that
as
an
individual
participating
in
this
community
you're
getting
right
and
so
the
real
value.
All
of
you
are
actually
taking
back
with
you
home,
but
also
to
the
company's
debt.
Unable
with
you
to
work
in
this
to
participate
in
this
ecosystem.
A
And
so,
instead
of
really
focusing
on
just
these
developers
coming
to
open
source,
let's
remember
that
the
real
value
of
open
source
is
in
of
these
interactions
right,
you
know,
so
you
know
if
you
actually
allow,
as
a
company
your
developers
to
participate
in
this
ecosystem
right.
All
of
those
interactions
are
going
to
help
your
developers
influence
the
project,
learn
from
others,
etc.
Right.
A
You
know
that,
as
a
result
of
these
interactions
as
a
result
of
this
community,
your
developers
participating
in
that
ecosystem
will
actually
bring
all
of
the
value
that
they
have
acquired
back
home
and
that's
how
corporations
truly
benefit
from
open
source,
not
only
not
just
by
using
the
code.
That's
the
output
of
this
whole
process,
but
really
by
getting
their
engineers
involved
in
a
process
and
leveling
them
up,
improving,
allowing
allowing
them
to
grow
and
benefit
from
this
ecosystem
and
becoming
better
engineers,
understanding
and
adopting
better
practices,
etc.
A
You
know
you
know,
as
a
conclusion,
I
think
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
charity
likes
funding
to
open
source
alone
is
not
going
to
be
the
solution
right.
Of
course,
it's
a
great
ad
and
it's
wonderful.
If
we
can
allow
a
number
of
community
members
to
live,
open
source
differently
and
more
can
open
source
full-time
are
not
necessarily
working
for
cooperation,
if
that's
what
they
want
and,
if,
like
the
whole
ecosystem
benefits
as
a
result
right.