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We
have
several
of
our
friends
from
the
cpc
who
are
interested
in
standards,
and
that
can
be
you
too,
my
dear
watchers,
on
the
youtubes,
if
you're
interested
in
getting
involved
just
head
on
over
to
our
slack
channel
and
join,
join
the
standards
working
group
channel
in
slack
and
we'll
help
you
get
onboarded
anyway.
Any
any
announcements.
C
An
announcement
that
is
exciting,
node
14.8.0
went
out
today
and
with
it
came
an
unflagged
version
of
top
level
await
from
a
standards
perspective.
This
is
exciting
for
me
personally,
because
it's
something
that
I
was
the
champion
of
over
at
tc39
and
it
think
it's
in
and
around
the
three
year
anniversary
of
like
getting
work
started
on
that.
C
The
other
thing
that's
exciting
is,
like
you
know,
dino
as
a
javascript
platform,
I
believe
was
the
first
platform
to
have
top
level
away
available
without
a
flag,
and
now
you
know
node
is
following
up.
Also.
We
had
worked
closely
node
with
the
dino
team
to
give
them
feedback
on
their
implementation,
because
there's
kind
of
some
subtleties
what
we
were
waiting
for
and
why
node
didn't
have
it
come
out
sooner?
We
were
really
waiting
for
stability
of
the
feature
itself.
C
C
Going
to
wait
until
chrome
unflagged
it
before
landing
in
a
node
dino
is
a
little
bit.
More
experimental
doesn't
have
the
same
kind
of
level
of
legacy
support,
so
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
that
their
support
contract
is
different,
but
for
us
we
wanted
to
just
make
sure
like
this
thing
was
stable.
It
was
ready
for
production.
We
weren't,
taking
on
a
lot
of
extra
work
over
in
node,
turns
out
that
the
integration
into
the
html
spec
is
taking
a
little
bit
longer
than
expected,
so
the
future
actually
exists
in
v8.
It's
stable.
C
It's
been
running
against
their
fuzzers
for
a
couple
months
now
too,
so
like
they're,
pretty
confident
in
the
stability
of
it,
and
the
only
things
that
we're
kind
of
stopping
it
from
getting
like
fully
stable
is
like
these
html
integrations,
which
are
completely
out
of
scope.
So
one
of
the
things
a
lot
of
context.
Sorry
about
that,
but
the
reason
I
think
that
this
is
like
exciting
and
cool
is
like.
C
This,
I
think,
is
one
of
the
first
language
features
that
node
participated
in
from
like
the
founding
of
the
feature
and
we're
actually
shipping
it
before
browsers
are
even
able
to
ship
it
and
not
doing
it
in
a
way.
That's
like
you
know
not
without
the
blessing
of
like
the
upstream
folks,
so
it's
pretty
cool.
It's
pretty
exciting.
I
think
it's
going
to
unlock
a
lot
of
use
cases
and
usability,
and
so
overall
you
know
I'm
kind
of
gushing.
So
I'll
stop
talking.
A
A
E
A
The
13th
so
two
days
from
today
is
the
last:
is
the
deadline
to
get
any
working
group
session
meetings
or
you
know,
proposals
for
for
breakout
sessions
and
stuff
like
that
into
the
team?
So
if
you
or
someone
you
know
and
and
or
love
want
to
do
a
working
group
session,
that's
there's
only
two
more
days
to
get
that
that.
F
G
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G
I
don't
know
if
you
have
concerns,
definitely
reach
out
to
me.
If
you
are
interested
in
discussing
it
reach
out
to
me,
I
don't
know,
I
guess
other
interesting
things
since
we
had
talked
about
the
open
prioritization
thing
about
a
month
ago.
We
posted
a
30-day
update
on
that
and
that's
interesting.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
yeah,
that's
I
think
all
I
have.
A
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E
D
D
Everybody
yeah
joe.
Thank
you
for
the
introduction.
I
am,
I
think
what
you
wanted
me
to
introduce
was
that
I'm
working
on
a
blog
correct.
So
just
if
you're
cool
with
that,
I
don't
mean
new
yeah
yeah.
It's
not
done.
I've
been
in
the
middle
of
a
few
interviewing
pipelines,
but
I
have
a
blog
introducing
the
the
unicode
standards
body
to
openjs
and
see
if
I
can
find
it
real
quick.
So
I
can
share.
D
I
got
it
handy
for
you.
Oh
okay,
cool
yeah,
just
throw
it
in
the
chat
there
so
not
done
yet,
but
kind
of
introduces.
You
know
the
topology
of
what
unicode
looks
like
giving
people
a
better
understanding
of
where
our
footprint
mixes
with
theirs
and
how
it
can
grow
over
time
together
in
a
relationship
but
most
solely
for
most
for
the
purpose
of
helping
us
understand
what
the
heck
is
the
consortium
and
how
do
we
meaningfully
engage
with
the
organization
over
time.
B
D
Yeah
yeah,
like
I
said
you
know
I'll,
be
expanding
on
it
probably
early,
hopefully
get
that
out
early
next
week,
so
that
we
can
kind
of
finalize
a
draft,
I'm
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
a
lot
of
interviews
right
now,
but
I
think
early
next
week
I
can
probably
finalize
it
and
then
have
draft
ready,
for
you
know
at
you
know,
edits
or
whatever
I
I'm
not
particularly
of
a
style
of
you
know.
Writing
where
I
feel
like.
I
have
to
have
the
final
say
on
everything
I
write.
D
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A
Two
separate
proposals
under
the
auspices
under
the
umbrella
of
the
open
js
foundation,
there's
been
some
discussion
about
the
proposals
themselves,
which
is,
of
course
interesting,
but
I
think
it
is
worth
taking
a
step
back
to
just
re
to
check
in
on
whether
this
is
actually
an
intended
type
of
activity,
whether
we
actually
mean
to
be
proposing
these
through
the
foundation
itself
or
more
whatever,
okay
miles.
Yes,.
C
H
A
C
Hello,
so
two
things
that
I
wanted
to
add.
Gus
would
like
to
join
this
meeting.
They
were
just
not
aware
of
the
timing
because
of
the
issue
thing
that
we
were
talking
about
earlier,
not
being
created,
I've
pinged
them,
they
have
the
link
and
they're
to
try
to
join
asap.
So
that
was
just
one
point
of
order
I
wanted
to
make
is
that
if
we
have
another
topic
that
we
can
talk
about
to
burn
some
time,
we
can
wait
for
gus
to
show
up
separately
from
that.
C
So
I
think
to
jordan's
point
bringing
ideas
to
committee,
even
if
we
don't
have
consensus
in
this
group,
definitely
feels
reasonable
to
me.
The
only
thing
that
I
would
maybe
want
to
push
back
on,
like
the
tiniest
bit,
would
be
whether
or
not
like
the
standards
group.
This
working
group.
This
meeting
in
particular,
is
the
appropriate
venue
to
be
having
that
discussion
to
me,
like
these
meetings
tend
to
be-
or
at
least
the
intent
has
been
for
them
to
be
like
much
more
administrative.
C
Something
is
not
necessarily
a
reason
to
not
move
forward
with
it.
So
I
think
that,
like
maybe
where
we
can
like
our
role
to
play
here
as
like
a
facilitator,
is
to
think
about
like
how
do
we
ensure
that
we
are
not
wasting
committee
time
not
to
be
too
harsh
and
making
sure
that
also
we're
being
like
respectful
of
the
ideas
that
that
groups
are
coming
up
with?
But
like
this
specific
meeting,
I
don't
think
is
like
the
best
venue
for
the
technical
side
of
the
conversation
it's
more
like.
G
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
what
miles
is
saying,
because
I
think
actually
that
I
am
fully
in
agreement.
I
think
what
you're
saying
is.
This
is
an
appropriate
venue
for
us
to
like
flag
a
topic
and
see
if
there
is
interest
in
us
helping
organize
the
larger
discussion,
but
the
the
larger
discussion
itself
should
be
not
here.
G
B
A
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E
A
So
guess
we
were
just
talking
about
and
just
really
getting
started
about
how
to
best
support
and
kind
of
proceed.
This
is
still
a
new
newer
group
within
the
foundation,
procedurally
like
what
our
group
can
do
from
a
scope
and
management
and
administrative
perspective,
and
then
I
guess,
conversely,
it'd
be
great
to
hear
like
what
you
would
like.
You
know
to
see
in
terms
of
support,
and
you
know,
input
and
that
kind
of
thing
for
your
proposals,
so.
I
I
J
Maybe
one
thing
we
we
all
kind
of
want
to
make
clear
to
each
other
here
is
that,
in
other
words,
if
I've
understood
correctly,
this
discussion
is
not
looking
for
permission
or
anything
from
this
standards.
Body
standards
working
group
to
do
anything,
it's
just
saying
hi.
This
is
an
interesting
couple
of
ideas.
I'd
like
to
push
forward.
What
do
you
guys
think
or
have
I
misunderstood
something
well.
I
C
C
To
be
honest,
because
we're
talking
about
like
bringing
things
and
presenting
things,
I
think
that
it
would
be
reasonable,
and
this
is
something
that
our
group
can
help
facilitate
to
like.
Do
a
call
to
projects
to
get
feedback
in,
like
particular,
to
make
sure
that
if
there
are
discussions
that
can
happen
prior
to
plenary,
that's
like
definitely
like
a
preferable
like
to
use
that
time
in
advance.
C
If
you
want
to
get
feedback
outside
of
our
organization
potentially
connecting
with
other
organizations,
that's
also
something
that
that
I
could
see
us
helping
to
facilitate.
If
you
wanted
to
hold
a
meeting,
that's
something
we
could
facilitate.
I
know
that
there's
the
like.
I
figured
with
the
name
of
shoes
program
that
he's
now
running
in
tc39
for
kind
of
like
out-of-band
meetings.
That's
going
on
is
another
venue
where,
like
this,
could
be
presented
in
advance
of
plenary.
C
J
A
A
I
don't
think
that
that's
what
we
want
to
do,
but
I
think
what
we
do
want
to
do
is,
if
say,
the
node
project
or
any
other
project
or
even
gus,
is
a
member
of
our
a
beloved
member
of
our
community
and
has
a
proposal
has
proposals
that
they
want
to
see
furthered
that
we
are
here
to
help
them
do
that
effectively,
but
we're
not
we're
not
bringing
it
under
like
we're,
not
advancing
ip
under
our
banner.
Is
that
that's
clear,
I
think,
to
everyone.
I
If
I
want
to
bring
a
proposal
there
under
ecma's
rules
of
how
that
works,
I
would
be
bringing
it
as
a
representative
of
the
openjs
foundation,
sort
of
speaking,
like
speaking
for
the
open.js
foundation,
not
myself,
because
that's
just
kind
of
how
pc39
works
so
that
so
the
the
the
the
maybe
it's
just
sort
of
optics
but
like
that
was
the
the
concern
I
had
was
like
how
or
how
is
like
do.
I
need
just
making
sure
that
that's
like
everybody
is
cool
with
that.
C
C
You
can't
have
one
person
represent
the
whole
organization.
I've
definitely
seen
cases
and
you've
seen
it
too.
I
think
where,
like
one
google
representative
is
presenting
a
proposal
and
another
one
is
like,
has
objections
and
concerns
with
it.
So
like
yeah,
it's
like
presenting
it
on
behalf
of
that
organization,
but
it's
still
like,
like
delegate
x
on
behalf
of
y,
is
presenting
it.
H
E
Yeah,
I
think
we're
unique
in
that
we
represent
so
many
member
companies
and
also
so
many
community
projects
that
may
have
differing
points
of
view.
As
miles
mentioned.
Many
companies
have
differing
points
of
view
just
because
they
have
multiple
products
that
may
implement
things
differently.
So
right,
I
think
there
has
to
be
an
if
and
when
you
go
advocate
for
something
you
have
to
go
through
just
extra
rigor
in
informing
your
stakeholders
and
getting
feedback
before
doing
so.
So
I
do
love
the
idea
of
using
this
body.
E
C
I
think
one
of
the
primary
differences
that
I
would
see
here
is
like,
if
like
what
we're
talking
about
here,
is
like
a
net
positive,
someone's
bringing
work
to
be
done
if
it
does
get
objected
to
either
from
someone
else
from
someone
in
the
foundation
or
someone
externally
like
that,
sets
a
precedent
towards
it.
But
then
it
just
kind
of
like
doesn't
go
anywhere
and
I
think
like,
as
far
as
like
foundation,
reputation
in
our
relationship
with
ekma,
it's
very
different,
because
that's
not
us
coming
and
like
stopping
progress.
C
H
C
I
A
A
A
K
F
F
A
F
F
The
conversation
that
we
had
before
during
a
meeting
it
was
very
long
time
ago
and
I
also
opened
the
full
records
after
a
very
long
time
and
it's
open
for
a
long
time
now.
So
it's
like
really
really
long
time,
but
it's
based
on
the
conversation
that
miles
and
jordan
has
and
also
like.
It
also
includes
a
few
things
that
we
decided
on
that
meeting.
So
just
like
minor.
F
A
Do
we
all
want
to
take
a
second
just
for
those
who
may
have
missed
it,
because
you're
right,
it
has
been
open
for
a
while,
certainly
would
mean
that
the
length
of
time
that
we
tend
to
a
lot
for
these
to
stay
open?
Would
there
be
any
issues
with
merging
this,
especially
since
it's
going
to
go
into
stage
one.
K
F
F
A
D
A
A
All
right,
any
other,
open
pr's
that
we
need
to
take
a
look
at.
Let
me
go.
Do
that
actually
really
quick
meeting
notes.
Thank
you,
sendel
for
doing
those
and
adding
a
new
working
group
member.
That's
then
we
should
definitely
get
those
in
as
well.
Somebody
want
to
we
had
two
plus
ones
and
it's
been
open
for
a
while.
So
I
think
that
one
can
be
closed.
This
is
93.
D
D
A
E
E
A
A
B
I'd
love
to
have
a
system
where
the
people
that
are
involved
are
in
a
list.
The
people
who
are
doing
more
of
the
work
are
kind
of
deprioritized
a
little
bit
and
we
could
kind
of
spin
a
wheel
too
to
be
like
oh
miles,
you're
you're
up
next
on
on
on
this
bit
of
voluntold
work,
but
that's
kind
of
a
different
different
need.
I
guess,
but
maybe
they
could
be
the
same
tool.
I
don't.