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Introducing the Red Hat APAC Hybrid Cloud Kopi Hour!
That’s right, we’re kicking off live streaming in APAC and it all starts with a nice strong cup of Kopi!
Join us for our second “beta” session at a time that suits you! For this edition we will review the interesting Kubecon announcements from Detroit. We'll be joined by APAC experts who were there in attendance and perhaps some other special guests.
A
A
Hello,
everyone
and
welcome
back
to
the
Apec
hybrid
Cloud
copy
hour.
So
this
is
the
new
live
streaming
show
we've
been
doing
in
Apec,
and
this
is
our
second.
What
I
call
beta
episode
and
by
Beta
I
mean
we're
still
kind
of
trying
it
out
we're
seeing
what
kind
of
formats
we
like
and
what
kind
of
guests
we
can
get
and
what
we
can
do
and
I
also
said
copy
hour.
I
said
this
last
time:
I
didn't
say
coffee
hour,
so
Kopi
is
a
and
I
know
our
guests.
A
Some
of
them
are
quite
familiar
with.
It
is
a
very
common
type
of
coffee
that
you
find
in
Southeast
Asia
and
it's
also
very
popular
in
Singapore.
So
we
figured
we
would
stay
true
to
our
Company
headquarter
roots
and
and
name
it
after
that.
So
I
am
August.
Simonelli
I
am
a
technical
marketing
manager
here
at
Red,
Hat
I
work
in
Sydney,
but
today,
I'm
coming
to
you,
live
from
Detroit
yep,
that's
Detroit
behind
me,
because
today
is
the
kubecon
n,
a
2022
Apec
recap
show
so
I'm,
not
actually
in
Detroit.
A
Obviously
that
wouldn't
be
that
wouldn't
be
aligned
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
our
show
so
I'm,
actually
here
in
Sydney.
But
what
I
do
have
is
three
guests
who
have
been
to
Detroit
and
who
attended
the
the
the
show
and
so
I
thought
we'd
bring
them
on
and
we'd
have
a
chat
about
what
it
was
like
to
be
in
Detroit
at
kubecon
and
coming
from
in
this
case
ANZ.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Absolutely
so
so
we've
got
these
great
guests
and
again
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
today
is
kubecon
North
America,
which
happened
in
Detroit
between
October
24th
and
28th.
So
I
have
some
just
some
details
about
the
show.
So,
as
you
know,
kubecon
happens
twice
a
year,
North,
America
and
Europe
and
previous
to
the
North
America
show
this
year.
A
It
was
in
I,
think
Valencia
Spain
in
Europe
and
then
Los
Angeles,
so
they've
had
a
couple
of
in-person
shows
since
the
pandemic,
and
since
that
shut
it
down,
but
I
believe
Detroit
was
one
of
the
biggest
there
were
7
500
attendees
and
then
the
same
amount
tuning
in
virtually
with
the
the
kind
of
the
numbers
they're
touting.
So
we're
looking
at
around
15
000
folks,
which
I
know
I,
think
Dev
I
think
you
might
have
been
at
the
one
in
San
Diego
pre-pandemic,
and
that
was
pretty
massive
right.
Yeah.
B
B
A
And
what
I
also
noticed
about
the
show
is
that
there
were
like
a
lot
of
heart,
not
partner
events
like
extra
day
events,
there
was
like
Cloud
security
con
wasm
day,
openshift
Commons,
there's
all
these
different
days
going
on
that
were
happening
there
so
and
I
think
that
was
before
the
actual
show
right.
So
they
were,
they
were
the
day
before
I,
don't
know.
If.
D
B
A
Yeah
so
I
know
and
I
know
that
there
were
a
lot
of
sessions,
so
I
actually
put
together.
So
there
is
the
the
cncf
has
actually
published
the
playlist,
and
so
I
was
able
to
start
watching
the
videos
and
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
what
kind
of
stuff
was
happening
in
there
organized
by
each
day
and
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
you
could
get
a
sense
of
just
how
big
it
was
so
and
then
I
think
next
year
it's
scheduled
for
I.
B
A
So,
looking
at
some
of
the
things
that
were
there,
I
spoke
with
some
of
the
folks
in
in
my
team
who
were
there
and
they
said
the
biggest
one
of
the
major
themes
was
security
was
talking
about
supply
chain
security
that
everyone
has
a
supply
chain
story.
Obviously,
Red
Hat
has
one
as
well.
Did
you
James
I,
don't
know
if
you
heard
much
about
that
when
you
were
there,
if
you
were
seeing
a
bit
going
on
yeah.
C
Absolutely
so
I
actually
went
to
the
two
days:
climate
of
security,
con
Monday,
Tuesday
and
yeah
day.
One
was
mostly
focused
on
supply
chain
around
your
software
building
materials
and
image.
Prominence,
and
you
know
cbes
over
time
and
some
of
the
popular
images.
There
was
a
lot.
There
was
pretty
much.
B
Yeah
I
think
security
was,
you
know,
a
big
event,
specifically
in
cubecon
I'm,
just
reading
out
some
of
the
numbers.
When
you
mentioned
this,
so
in
one
of
the
Keynotes
on
kubecon
day,
one
the
there
was
this
particular
presentation
that
spoke
about
just
security
Focus,
so
they
did
an
analysis
of
the
top
165
public
containers
on
Docker
Hub
and
basically
they
came
out
with
vulnerabilities.
So
they
said
every
like
average
number
of
vulnerabilities
in
each
of
these
was
273.
B
273
vulnerabilities
on
you
know
each
of
the
public
containers
and
that
only
represented
like
20,
which
were
deemed
high
and
critical,
and
the
average
number
of
packages
per
container
is
34..
So
that
gave
us
you
know
that
gave
everyone
kind
of
you
know
a
landscape
of.
You
know
how
SEC
important
security
has
been
in.
You
know
in
this
whole
Cloud
native
landscape,.
C
Probably
one
of
the
things
that
really
stood
out
to
me
at
that
keynote
as
well,
was
the
actual
increase
from
the
from
the
previous
year,
so
that
you
know
they
looked
at
those
same
165
images
over
time
and
the
picture
didn't
look.
You
know
any
better.
This
year
it
was
a
bit
worse.
So
it'll
be
really
interesting
to
see.
You
know
another
12
months
down
the
track
if
we
can
really
get
on
top
of
that
and
yeah
get
that
number
down.
A
Years
so
and
our
so
our
customers
bringing
images
down
and
then
they're
going
to
have
to
rescan
them
and
make
sure
they're
safe
and
you
know,
are
you
you
know
not
just
Google.
Are
you
seeing
with
your
customers
that
they're
having
multiple
operating
systems,
Windows
containers
in
there
and
and
Linux
containers?
How
does
that
kind
of
switch
out.
D
Well,
the
with
my
customers,
it's
primarily
Linux
type-based
containers
for
Network
functions,
but
there's
multiple
I
mean
there's
the
scanning
and
security.
You
know
procedures
and
everything
in
constructing
those
images
by
those
neps,
but
also
you
know
we
provide
with
our
own
Registries
Etc
within
redhep,
whether
it's
online
or
the
the
on
on-premise
query,
where
we
do
have
that
does
its
own
scanning
as
well
as
well
as
having
our
our
own
security
scanning
tools
as
well.
That
makes.
A
Sense,
all
right
so
before
we
get
too
off
track
and
stop
talking
about
kubecon,
let's
I'll
rail,
that
back
in
and
another
area
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
When
you
mentioned,
Keynotes
was
one
of
the
our
red
headers
did
keynote
for
the
cncf,
where
he
told
a
story
of
red
hat
working
with
Lockheed,
Martin
and
Lockheed
had
had
a
specific
problem
they
needed
to
solve,
and
so
we
began
working
with
them
and
that
actually
led
to
a
red
hat
product,
which
is
called
the
red
hat
device.
A
Edge
and
I
want
to
kind
of
cover
that
a
little
bit.
But
this
the
the
session
was
really
cool
that
Nick
barset
did
because
he
talked
about
the
transformational
way
that
that
we
took
a
customer
use
case
and
it
turned
into
a
productized
solution
and
excuse
me
he
called
back
to
the
open
stack
days
when
we
sort
of
did
that
Nick,
where
we
began
working
with
Telco
vendors
and
they
were
using
their
old
million
dollar
pieces
of
hardware
and
you
and
I
used
to
you,
know
I
remember
in
the
early
days
as
well.
A
We
would
be
in
these
tell
these
telephone
exchanges
looking
at
these
boxes,
that,
were
you
know,
full
of
cobwebs,
so
to
speak,
but
we're
very
important,
but
the
evolution
through
vnfs
to
cnfs
and
that's
now
today,
most
5gs
are
running
on
most
5G
is
running
on
containers
and
so
that
that
transformational
message
is
now
applying
to
Edge
a
lot
more,
which
I'm
sure
you're.
Seeing
in
that
Telco
space.
D
Well,
exactly,
as
you
said,
you
know,
5G
is
primarily
software-based
Solutions
running
on
container-based
kubernetes
or
they
work
to
the
edge.
So
you
know
you
could
be
looking
at
a
certain
North
American
curl
code.
Having
you
know,
40
50
000
sites
where
there
would
there
would
be
running
kubernetes
in
some
form.
You
know
in
size
as
well,
primarily
would
be
you
know,
Edge.
You
know
co-located
with
antennas
and
things
like
that,
but
there
will
be
kubernetes
and
cnfs
and
everything
all
the
way
to
that
edge.
A
That's
amazing
right
because
who
would
have
thought
when
we
were
standing
in
a
telephone
exchange
in
Melbourne?
What
was
that?
How
many
years
ago
was
that
eight
years
ago
that
that
this
would
just
be
the
de
facto
and
I
think
that's
what
happened
with
Lockheed
right,
so
they
had
a
need
to
excuse
me
load
up
a
drone
to
survey
these
vast
areas,
but
there
was
nothing
to
stick
in
the
Drone
and
they
want
to
use
kubernetes
and
they
want
to
use.
A
You
know
a
very
small
distribution
and
that
actually
led
to
us
working
with
them,
and
there
were
people
in
my
team
who
were
assisting
in
engineering
and
all
that
to
create
Red
Hat
device
Edge,
and
this
really
really
cool
thing
called
microshift.
So
I
and
I
don't
know
if
any
I
mean
I
can
go
into
it.
But
if
anyone
wants
to
share
a
little
bit
about
what
they
know
about
rhd
and
microshift,
you
know
talk
a
bit
about
it.
Otherwise,
I'll
cover
it
have
you
experienced,
have
you
played
with
it?
D
B
Objective
one
thing:
I
definitely
call
out
that
I
mean
with
customers.
A
lot
of
customers
are
now
Keen
at
looking
at.
You
know
how
they
can
make
use
of
the
you
know
forehead
sites.
Basically,
you
know
power
constraint,
resource
constraint,
environment
and
I,
think
red
hack
device
Edge
plays
a
massive
role.
Okay,.
C
Yeah
James
I
was
just
going
to
jump
in
I,
have
to
say:
I've
been
tinkering
with
Classic
Edge
device,
the
the
phone,
in
this
case
the
Linux
phone
running
Fedora
and
installing
microshift.
On
that
it's
it's
a
few
few
little
Hoops.
You
have
to
jump
through
just
just
there
at
the
moment
because
of
the
device
specifically
yeah,
but
very.
A
Very
cool
so
I
think,
and
that
actually
is
a
great
little
entry
point
for
me.
So
I
want
to
be
clear
what
rhde
is
Red
Hat
device,
Edge
and
microchip,
so
red
hat
device.
Edge
is
actually
a
Rel
distribution.
So
it's
an
it's
a
Rel
for
Edge
distribution
that
uses
RPM
OS
tree
so
you're
using
an
A,
B
type
OS,
so
that
you
can
do
upgrades
very
easily
and
very
cleanly.
A
But
it's
not
it's
not
micro
shift,
it's
its
own
thing
and
what
it
does
is
it
actually
enables
you
or
allows
you
to
run
RPMs
on
there.
It
runs
KVM,
so
you
could
run
virtual
machines
directly
on
there.
It
allows
you
just
you,
so
you
could
package
your
app
up
as
an
RPM
or
an
indicate
in
a
VM
or
to
run
a
very
small
openshift
like
distribution
called
microshift.
A
So
inside
Red
Hat
we
kind
of
talk
about
micro
shift
and
it
seems
like
it's
it's
all
of
our
HDE,
but
this
thing
is
massively
functional.
So,
but
what's
so
cool
about
microshift
is
while
it's
not
a
full
openshift
distribution
right,
it's
missing
some
of
the
apis.
It
doesn't
have
olm
and
stuff
like
that.
It
is
a
binary.
It's
a
single
I
believe
James,
a
single
binary
that
you
can
move
around
yeah,
that
that
has
runs
like
four
little
pods
or
something
it's.
It's
really
lean.
C
A
So
it's
it's
certainly
a
neat
one
and
I
guess
what
I
learned
and
I
kind
of
knew,
because
for
my
open
snack
days,
but
these
big
shows
there
aren't
actually
that
many
vendor
announcements.
So
the
fact
that
red
hat
was
able
to
share
that
and
it's
it's
not
a
ga
product,
it's
still
Tech
preview.
So
it's
it's
still
coming.
A
D
But
on
the
on
the
plus
side,
the
fact
that
it's
not
a
sort
of
a
vendor
event-
it
was
quite
good-
was
quite
refreshing
in
that
you
were
not
getting
that
marketing
sale.
Pitched
to
you
all
the
time
it
was.
You
know
you
had
Engineers
from
memory
render
you
can
imagine,
but
there
were
they
representing
their
projects
and
talking
about
their
projects
and
the
technology
and
everything
which
was
really
good.
Yeah.
A
And
I
kind
of
want
to
look
more
at
that
as
well
I
want,
you
know,
bringing
it
back
to
kubecon.
What
what
are
you
looking
to
find
you
know,
so
you
guys
decided
to
you
know:
fly
15
000
kilometers
across
an
ocean
to
you
know
middle
of
America.
What
are
you
hoping
to
find
when
you
go
to
a
kubecon
event?
Nick
you
revealed
that
you're.
Obviously
there
are
you,
you
know.
Are
you
hoping
to
see
the
big
splashy
announcements?
What
were
you
each
seeking,
as
you
went
over
there?
D
A
C
So
I
should
say
this
was
the
first
in-person
coupon
for
me
gone
to
a
couple
of
the
virtual
her
instances
beforehand
to
me,
kubecon's
kind
of
all
about
the
the
people
behind
the
technology
I.
You
know
I
wanted
to
catch
up
with
some
old
friends
that
I
hadn't
seen
in
years.
You
know
me:
yeah
meet
some
new
friends,
and
actually
we
were
talking
about
the
co-located
events
earlier.
I
probably
need
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
cloud
native
rejects
event
on
on
the
Sunday.
C
So
if
anyone
doesn't
know
about
that,
it's
usually
a
much
much
smaller
event,
maybe
one
or
two
days
before
the
main
week
and
you
can
go
along
and
any
of
the
talks
that
potentially
have
been
rejected
from
the
main
conference.
They
get
like
a
second
chance
to
be
presented
there
and
yeah
I,
actually
on
that
Sunday
caught
up
with
some
really
old
friends,
which
was
awesome
and
yeah
just
throughout
the
rest
of
the
week
as
well.
C
A
B
B
The
other
reason
I
mean
on
top
of
priority
was
just
talking
to
some
of
the
project.
Maintainers,
so
I
know
a
lot
of
you
know
boots
were
there,
you
know
where
vendors
were
represented,
but
you
know
there's
one
corner
as
well,
where
all
the
projects
are
represented.
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
great
place
to
be.
You
know
you
can
talk
to
the
project
maintainers.
You
know
the
engineers
behind.
B
You
know
all
the
cool
stuff
that
everyone
is
using
and
everyone's
talking
about
and
you
can
go
up
to
them
and
you
know,
ask
them
questions
and
they're.
You
know
it's
really
cool,
because
you
know
if
you
learn
more
technology
or
if
you
don't
know
a
particular
project
and
what
they're
doing
they're
really
happy
to
show
that
you
know
to
you.
If
you
think
about
it,
you
know.
Just
you
know
two
years
into
you
know
the
whole
lockdowns.
B
B
You
know
and
help
our
customers
in
the
end,
so
I
think
that
was
another,
a
really
cool
thing
that
I
thought
you
know:
I
took
out
from
them
and
in
the
end,
it's
just
you
know
just
meeting
other
Engineers
from
other.
You
know,
teams
even
from
you
know,
end
users,
or
you
know,
customers
and
seeing
you
know
what
they.
What
their
challenges
are.
B
D
D
A
I
was
wondering,
and
especially
post
pandemic
right
I
mean,
like
we've
all
been
as
devastating
we've
been
you
know,
just
chatting
and
slacking
and
whatever
we're
using
and
to
to
just
get
things
back
together.
It's
just
such
a
valuable
thing.
I,
don't
know.
If
they'll
do
that,
I
mean
if
you
remember
there
was
an
open
snack,
Summit
in
Sydney,
but
then
I
guess
the
reverse
happens
right.
It's
very
hard
for
everyone
to
come.
C
C
I
remember
back
in
2019
there
was
a
covenant.
There
were
kubernetes
Regional
so
happening
and
there
was
a
regional
I
think
it
might
have
been
Sydney,
and
that
was
that
was
a
great
event.
I
mean
it
would
be
awesome.
If
maybe
we
can
get
some
of
those
Regional.
Cncf
events
kicking
off
again:
yeah
yeah.
A
A
They
move
that
event
around
it's
a
free
event
and
it
allows
Red
Hat
to
kind
of
have
that
same
team,
less
marketing
less
you
know
product
in
the
face,
but
more
the
people
behind
it,
but
some
road
maps
and
stuff
and
I
know
they.
You
know
they
I'm
always
saying
to
her:
oh
yeah,
bring
it
bring
it
here,
bring
it
here.
You
know
we,
whether
it
be
Australia
or
Singapore,
it
doesn't
matter
but
bring
it
out
to
APAC
to
get
those
shorter
flights.
Also.
D
A
So
yeah,
so
that's
what
I
was
wondering
right
so
with
the
logistics
of
the
event
right.
There's
things
like
Capture,
the
Flag
I
want
to
hear
more
about
that.
But
you've
got
all
you
know:
I
mean
I.
There's
like
webassembly
day
I
mean
that's
very
specific,
so
get
Upstate
I'm
sure
would
have
been
big.
But
how
do
you
pick
and
choose
what
to
visit
and-
and
you
know
like,
do
you
think
those
smaller
conferences,
overlapping
work,
I
mean
you
need
it
because
everybody's
there
together,
but
there's
a
format,
work.
B
I
think
it's
difficult
I
mean
you
know.
At
this
time
we
had
githubs
gone.
We
had
security
con
as
well,
and
I
was
kind
of
keen
on
doing
both
but
yeah
it's
difficult
to
choose.
So
yes,
but
I
think
the
communities
kind
of
realize
you
know
some
of
the
projects
are
quite
growing
or
some
of
the
and
they
want
to.
You
know,
carve
it
out
separately.
It's
a
good
thing
as
well,
so.
D
D
A
And
so
do
you?
Are
they
I,
don't
know
enough
about
it,
but
are
they
having
them
completely
at
a
different
time,
because,
especially
for
people
where
we
are,
the
costs
are
just
enormous?
Like
Nick
is
saying
you
know,
you
can't
go
to
observabilitycon
in
Seattle
and
then
two
weeks
later
hit
a
security
Con
in
Orlando
right.
It's.
We
don't
have
that
flexibility
like
the
Americans
or
even
the
Europeans
might
have.
B
A
So,
beyond
the
techie
events,
you
mentioned
capture
the
flag.
What
was
things
like
the
show
floor,
like
the
swag,
the
feel
the
I
know,
AWS
had
a
big
Booth.
Tell
me
some
stories
like
I
mean
I
I
love
going
to
those
things
and
just
like
I
get
one
of
those
shirts
can
I
get
one
of
those.
You
know
and
I
know
it's
about
the
tech
I
get
it
I
get
it,
but
the
marketing
part
is
fun.
What
was
it
like?
D
We
actually
had
a
dedicated
people,
team
or
human
resource
team
for
other
companies
that
were
actively
talking
to
people
and
recruiting
for
certain
positions
as
well
to
help
them
along,
as
well
as
having
you
know
our
engineers
and
authors
of
some
of
our
books
that
were
there
together.
You
know
with
their
the
books
that
they
were
giving
away
so
that
was
well
attended.
D
The
obviously
the
bigger
vendors
like
Cisco
and
AWS,
and
everyone
had
some
pretty
big
boots.
I
was
impressed
with
Cisco's,
with
the
they
were
giving
away.
Hoodies
and
I
don't
know
exactly
what
they
were
printing
on
them,
but
because
those
queues
never
ended,
so
I
never
actually
got
one
of
those.
So
that
was
impressive.
We're
aware
of
those
cues
lasted
for
three
days
and
there
was
actually
decent
coffee
inside
the
Showcase
we've
been
in
Australian.
You
know
you're
always
looking
for
decent
coffee,
especially
in
America.
D
C
Sir
I
have
to
confess
this
is
also
a
shirt
from
from
the
event
from
the
booth
but
yeah
it
looked
like
the
the
red
hat
Booth
hammed
along
pretty
well
I.
Think
just
in
terms
of
the
venue,
it
was
maybe
less
than
ideal,
having
like
the
food
down
on
a
separate
level
compared
to
where
the
solutions
sort
of
Center
was
I,
think
that
kind
of
you
know
took
away
a
little
bit
of
the
foot
traffic
but
yeah.
Obviously
the
you
know
the
sticker
collections
through
the
roof.
A
D
D
You
know
from
experience
from
10
years
ago,
they're
about
safety
issues
and
things
like
that,
but,
to
be
honest,
surprisingly,
within
the
downtown
City
I
walked
around
all
the
time,
not
too
late
at
night,
but
definitely
up
to
9
10
p.m
and
I
never
really
felt
any
sense
of
you
know
safety
issues
or
anything
like
that,
and
really
nice
food
I
really
enjoyed
the
experience.
I'm
glad
I
went
there.
B
Yeah,
it
certainly
lives
up
to
the
motorcycle
name.
I
I
saw
a
lot
of
massive
trucks
and
beautiful
cars
EVS
you
know
on
the
roads,
so
that
was
fun.
The
weather
was
great
as
well.
I
mean
I.
Think
here
back
in
Melbourne,
it
was
raining
like
you
know:
cats
and
dogs,
but
nice
and
sunny,
like
I,
got
up
to
a
couple
of
runs
in
the
morning
as
well.
That
was
great.
The
food
was
awesome,
Nick
and
I
were
queuing
up.
You
know
the
coffee
places
away
because
there
were
so
many
awesome
sessions.
B
C
A
C
Managed
to
go
out
to
an
NBA
game
on
Wednesday
night,
and
that
was
just
an
awesome
experience.
I
mean
I
haven't
been
to
anything
like
that
before
yeah
on
the
the
day
we
were
leaving
actually
on,
Saturday
went
to
the
Detroit
Museum
and
the
main
library
there's
some
awesome
places
to
go
and
visit
there.
D
A
Yeah
I
mean
Nick
and
I
were
talking
before
I
mean
I
was
in
Detroit
20
years
ago
for
work,
and
it
was
a
very
different
city.
I
think
they
had
just
won
the
Super
Bowl
not
won
the
game,
but
had
won
hosting
the
Super
Bowl,
so
they
were
building
Ford
Field
downtown,
which
you
would
have
seen
down
there.
It's
beautiful
Stadium,
but.
A
And
I
stayed
out
on
East
Jefferson
and
there
was
you
know
we
I
was
at
a
little
office
and
they
kept
saying
I
would
walk
across
to
my
hotel
and
they're
like
oh.
What
are
you
doing?
It's
not
safe
and
it
was
safe.
It
was
fine,
but
but
that
it
had
that
stigma
for
a
long
time.
I
know
Nick.
You
said
your
your
old
employer.
What
was
it.
D
Yeah,
oh
yeah
I
mean
well
we've
heard
of
people
actually
getting
shot
from
my
old
employer
where
they
would
try
and
walk
back
to
the
hotel
after
hours.
I
mean
we're
talking.
You
know,
10
15
years
ago
now,
yeah,
you
know
being
in
the
room
close
at
the
wrong
time.
Obviously-
and
you
know
had
an
even
more
recently
being
worn
by
you
know,
like
I,
said
ex
Canadians
and
ex-americans
that
were
close
by
and
which
really
had
that
picture
from
quite
a
while
back.
D
But
you
know,
as
I
said,
Downtown
City
I
didn't
feel
any
issues
at
all
I'm
sure,
like
every
other
big
American
city,
there's
certain
streets,
you
don't
know
all
areas,
you
don't
want
to
go
to
yeah,
but
definitely
downtown
where
we
were.
It
was
quite
Pleasant.
It
was
nice,
a
nice
character
to
the
city
as
well.
It's
not
just
stand
at
high
rise.
You
know
sort
of
towering
City.
It's
got
a
lot
of
character
as
well.
C
Heaps
of
New,
Street,
Art,
propping
up
as
well,
and
we
took
there-
was
a
sort
of
a
15-20
minute
ride
around
the
monorail
that
you
could
take
around
downtown
and
yeah
awesome
street
art
popping
up
around
the
place.
It
was
really
cool.
They
actually
had
the
monorail
decorated.
With
the
you
know,
cncf
kukon
kind
of
branding
as
well,
which
was
really
cool,
yeah.
D
B
D
B
B
D
A
Say
so
so
when
I
went,
I
had
a
rental
car,
because
I
had
to
go
up
to
like
some
Comp
USA
or
something
to
buy
parts,
I
mean
I
was
looking
after
Windows
machines
and
I
was
able
then
to
drive
across
the
bridge
in
like
Drive
South
into
Canada
and
I
thought.
That
was
just
insane.
How
can
you
be
living
like
being
in
in
America
and
Drive
South
into
Canada
and
obviously
I'm
from
the
US
I
grew
up
in
Colorado,
so
I've
never
actually
never
been
to
Detroit,
but
I
it
had
out.
A
D
We
did
have
you
know
with
a
friend
from
another
window
that
one
night
and
he
actually
had
to
stay
over
at
the
casino
across
in
Canada
because
he
booked
it
really
late.
He
was
only
coming
for
a
couple
nights
and
the
prices
in
Detroit
was
so
high.
That
was
cheaper
for
him
to
stay
across
the
river
because
she
was
Canadian
and
catch.
You
know
he
didn't
pay
60
or
100
for
a
taxi.
Each
way
it
would
still
have
been
cheaper,
yeah.
B
A
Well
so
I
guess
I
mean
and
again
we're
focused
on
kubecon.
Was
it
worth
it
right?
So
you've
gone
that
far.
It
sounds
like
it
was,
but
kind
of
give
me
a
bit
of
a
summary
of
all
the
travel
and
all
that
experience.
What
are
your
kind
of
top
three
takeaways
from
attending
this
coupon?
Not
just
events
in
person.
I
think
we
all
know
they're
needed,
but
I'll
start
with
you
James
what
you
know
being
over
there
put
you
on
the
spot.
C
I
I
always
find-
and
it
was
like
this
with
the
Regionals
there's
kind
of
events
they
kind
of
like
re-energize,
some
of
my
kind
of
passion
around
open
source
and
and
the
community,
and
actually
one
of
the
highlights
for
me-
was
heading
along
to
one
of
the
special
interest
groups
for
kubernetes
infra.
You
know
they
talked
about
needing
some
help
with
migrating,
often
old.
You
know
jig
gcp,
based
container
registry
to
new
container
registry
for
all
the
communities.
C
You
know
standard
images
and
I
actually
later
that
night,
you
know
the
the
the
passion
was
flowing,
I
jumped
in
and
raised
a
few
pull
requests
for
for
a
few
projects
to
you
know,
get
that
change
done
and
yeah
I
don't
know
I,
just
in
a
nutshell,
I
think
those
kind
of
events
they
just
re-energize
me
in
a
way
and
kind
of
reinforced
for
me
that
I
really
want
to
be.
You
know
heading
over
to
the
the
next
one,
Amsterdam
and
April
I'll
do
my
best
to
to
get
there
so
yeah.
A
Yeah,
it's
really
worth
it
right,
because
not
only
do
you,
you
see
people
in
your
network,
but
you
remember
the
tech
you
get
and
Dev
touched
on
this
and
I'll
give
you
a
chance
in
a
sector
but
yeah
you
get
right
back
to
that
face
of
the
tech
of
the
people
behind
it,
because
the
last
few
years
have
been
you
know
so
so
separating,
but
even
when
you
could
visit
even
before
that,
you
know
just
to
be
right.
There
with
the
people
in
the
tech
is,
is
really
neat.
B
B
B
D
D
You
know
being
able
to
go
to
dinner
with
the
customers
and
some
of
our
colleagues
from
the
US
I
found
that
really
good
the
the
travel
it
was
challenging,
but
I
think
worth
it
at
the
end.
I,
wouldn't
want
to
be
doing
it
to
the
you
know:
West
Coast,
us
two
or
three
times
a
year,
but
I.
Definitely
this
time
around.
It
was
worth
the
effort
so.
A
D
B
D
C
A
B
Definitely
I
think
in
2019
we
had
a
lot
of
representation
from
the
back
side
as
well.
This
time,
around
very
few,
like
mentioned,
we
just
we
bumped
into
a
customer
of
our
customers
from
a
bank
from
Australia,
but
other
than
that.
A
lot
of
the
representation,
especially
from
the
was
from
North
America
yeah,.
A
D
Yeah
there
was
a
I
mean
some
of
the
talks
I
really
enjoyed
were
from
some
of
the
I.
Think
Adobe
did
quite
a
few
on
deploying
kubernetes
at
Large
Scale,
looking
at
the
security
user,
Security
Group
Security,
you
know
other
authentication
authorization
and
as
well
as
all
these
other
aspects
of
such
large
deployments,
which
I
found
really
useful,
don't
quite
relate
to
Telco,
but
certainly
give
me
a
good
ideas
on
for
me
personally,
but
I'm
sure
for
other
Enterprises.
It's
like
a
bank
or
financial
institution
that
would
have
been
very
useful.
Yeah.
A
C
The
CTF
it
was
yeah
you
jumped
into
an
environment,
and
you
know
you'll
you'll
have
this
sort
of
hint
of
a
scenario
and
you're
trying
to
unpick.
Perhaps
what
the
the
attacker
has
done
or
or
you
know
what
Pathways
they've
followed.
Maybe
what?
What
sort
of
CVS
and
things
they've
used
to
get
to
various
pivot,
Points
I'll,
say
I've
got
about
halfway.
It
was
really
hard,
but
it's
still,
you
learn
a
lot.
C
You
know
trying
to
dig
through
some
of
that,
and
it's
good
to
you
know,
keep
yourself
on
your
toes
and
and
challenge
yourselves.
So
yeah
I've
had
a
lot
of
fun
with
that
one
of
the
sessions.
Actually,
that
really
was
just
awesome.
For
me.
You
know:
I've
been
hearing
a
lot
about
evpf,
extended,
Berkeley
packet,
filter
and
particularly
in
relation
to
monitoring
and-
and
you
know,
threat
detection.
C
C
D
D
D
D
But
when
you
look
at
the
manufacturing
costs
of
it,
it's
at
the
Other
Extreme.
Where
the
you
know,
the
spinning
disc
is
so
much
more
efficient
in
the
you
know,
in
its
manufacturing
process
and
as
as
companies
need
to
start
reporting
their
the
CO2
Footprints
I
believe
in
2024
in
Europe,
where
they
need
to
contact
into
consideration.
D
B
Does
one
of
my
favorite
topics
now
and
and
our
presentations
so
basically
William
command
and
another
red
Hatter
who
presented-
and
this
was
more
towards
how
do
we
take
cncf
projects,
open
source
projects
and
combine
them
together
and
basically,
you
know
use
machine
learning
models
to
improve.
You
know
the
whole.
You
know
the
deployment
and
kind
of
learn
from
them
take
observability
data
that
was.
C
So
I've
got
a
a
question
that
immediately
took
past
somebody.
I
didn't
manage
to
catch
that
session,
so
I
think
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
hit
that
one
when
it
comes
up
on
YouTube.
Was
there
a
mention
on
CPU
architecture
and
the
impact
that
has
like
I
imagine
would
would
probably
stack
up
a
lot
nicer
on
those
metrics,
perhaps
than
than
you
know,
AMD
64
x86.
B
D
D
C
A
Yeah
definitely
I'll
make
the
call
here
now
cncf
in
in
Amsterdam.
Here
it
comes
right.
You
ready!
This
is
going
to
happen
here
in
the
hybrid
Cloud
copy
hour.
Second,
beta
Edition,
they
will
have
a
guest
speaker,
you
know
who
it
is.
It's
going
to
be
Greta
tunberg,
so
she'll
come
in
and
she'll
talk
about
the
environmental
advantages
of
you
using
kubernetes
and
that
I'm
just
telling
you
now
so
I'm
I'm
mark
your
calendars.
B
I
think
it's
a
great
thing:
I
mean,
although
it's
early
stages,
you
know
everyone's
taking
notice
and
like
they
say,
like
crossing
the
chasm.
So
you
know
once
you
know,
it's
kind
of
you
know
taken
flight
and
people
see
the
benefits.
Other
regions
will
kind
of
follow
suit
and
I'm
quite
positive.
You
know
I'm
quite
hopeful
that
happens
because
it's
important
yeah
but.
D
C
C
A
I
think
Edge
is
going
to
be
so
relevant
in
Asia
in
APAC
and
our
scale.
Nick.
You've
educated
me
on
this
a
lot,
but
you
know
the
scale
of
what
we're
dealing
with
and
the
size
of
what
we're
dealing
like
the
people.
The
amount
of
people
in
these
areas
need
to
deal
with
things
right
right
up
to
the
front
there.
So
I
think
it's
I
think
this
is
very
exciting
for
APAC.
D
A
A
These
ideas
back
with
us
and
companies
and
and
decision
makers
bring
these
ideas
back,
because
it's
so
much
more
real
as
Deb
was
saying
when
you're
in
that
room
with
people,
and
actually
you
know
seeing
the
faces
behind
the
projects
and
understanding
that
the
motivations
and
how
they're
happening
so
I
I
think
it's
and
it's
neat
that
you
guys
can
come
over
here.
You
know
come
on
and
share
it.
I
know
it's.
You
know
it's!
A
B
A
C
Well,
I
just
actually
had
one
other,
very
cool,
very
short
story
to
to
tell,
and
that
was
actually
on
I.
Think
I
was
on
Wednesday
sitting
down
to
lunch.
So
you
know
the
hall
was
enormous
and
I
just
happened
to
pick
the
table,
the
you
know
what
other
guys
sitting
there
and
who
would
it
be
then
one
other
than
our
one
of
our
core
OS
core
maintainers.
C
You
know
from
from
redhead,
and
we
get
talking
talking
about
a
customer
issue
actually
for
a
New
Zealand
customer
and
later
that
night,
I
I
sent
him
a
support
case
that
we've
been
we've
been
talking
about,
and
this
absolute
Legend
replies
back
about
20
minutes
later,
with
a
GitHub
pull
request
for
something
that'll
prevent
that
situation
ever
occurring
again
in
future,
and
it's
just
those
kind
of
things
that
are
awesome
about
those.
You
know
events
like
this,
so
yeah,
let's
bring
on
more
of
it.
Yeah.
D
Exactly
you're
talking
with
the
maintainers
of
the
projects
and
the
developers
and
I
mean
Dev
and
I,
had
some
discussions
with
Vicky
Vernon
guys
about
some
challenges:
I'm
having
with
some
of
my
git
Ops
Automation
and
said:
oh
yeah,
he
just
he
said
open
up
an
issue
and
point
it
to
me
and
I'll
I'll
have
a
look
at
it
later
when
I
have
more
time.
Yeah.
D
A
Engineers
you
you're
talking
you're
geeking
you're.
You
know
you're
over
there,
you're
enjoying
yourself
you're,
doing
crazy
games
like
to
capture
the
flag
stuff,
and
it's
all,
bringing
everyone
together
to
solve
these
problems
and
to
get
them
solved
quickly,
so
that
our
customers
can
just
take
off
with.
D
Them
and
that's
the
thing
we
all
come
from
the
customer
facing
yeah
environment-
and
you
know,
we've
made
these
engineers
and
you
know-
and
we
can
pass
on
that
knowledge
that
we
have
I
mean,
like
I,
said
I'm
dealing
daily
or
with
telecommunications
companies
around
this
region
and
even
in
North
America
and
Europe
as
well.
Dev's
dealing
with
you
know,
customers
within
Australia
James
with
within
New
Zealand,
and
you
know
this
developers
don't
necessarily
get
that
experience,
don't
see
how
their
products
are
used
or
what
the
challenges
are
so
yeah,
that's
good.
D
A
B
C
D
A
A
Most
of
them
are
in
U.S
times
so
if
you're
re-watching,
the
stream
or
watching
live
today
for
APAC
timing,
we're
your
show
and
reach
out
to
me
I'm
looking
to
bring
in
as
many
people
from
around
our
region
to
share
our
stories
and
to
share
our
experiences
like
like
these
three
have
done
today.
I'm
sure
you'll
see
them
again
on
the
show.
So
thank
you.
A
Everyone
for
joining
us
and
I
suppose
we'll
get
ready
for
the
Amsterdam
recap
show
in
that's
in
April
right
so
first
week
of
May
we'll
make
it
we'll
make
a
thing
out
of
it
all
right.
Everyone
thanks
very
much
for
your
joining
and
tending
and
we'll
see
you
next
time
for
a
nice
hot
cup
of
coffee.
Thank
you.